1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Daybreaker podcast, available every morning on Apple, 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Thursday, the twenty sixth 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: of June in London. I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Donald Trump recommits to NATO after European leaders agree to 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: hike spending on defense. Reports suggests the US presidents considering 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: naming Jerome Powell's replacement as FED chair early and. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm Caroline hepkeat live at the City UK conference where 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: the industry body is warning that London's future as a 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: financial center is not guaranteed. 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: A landmark NATO summit has ended with a bold commitment 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: to all thirty two allies will raise military spending to 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: five percent of GDP. On his flight to the Hague, 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: President Trump voiced doubts about his willingness to honor the 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: alliance's commitment to collective defense. However, he later said the 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: discussions with other leaders had changed his view. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: When I saw the passion they had for the country. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: Almost everyone and you probably have the tapes. It was 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: very public, but almost every one of them said, thank 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: God for the United States. Without the United States, it 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: couldn't really have NATO. It wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: It will in the future because now they're paying much 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: more money, but it wouldn't work. It was great, and. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I left here differently. 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: I left here saying that these people really love their countries. 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: It's not a ripoff, and we're here to help them 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 4: protect their country. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: Whether all member states eventually reached the spending goal remains 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: an open question. Spain and Slovakia have already expressed doubts 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: about allocating that much money to defense. Spain's reluctance to 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: meet the five percent targets dree direct threats of economic 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: retaliation from President Trump. Thattro Spain's IBEX thirty five index 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: to its biggest decline since early April, closing down one 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: point six percent. President Trump meanwhile says that America will 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: hold talks with Iran next weeks. Came as the US 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: leader also cast doubt on the necessity of a diplomatic 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: agreement regarding Iran's nuclear program. Meanwhile, Donald Trump again disputed 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: an intelligence assessment from his own government which stated that 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Tehran's nuclear program. 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: Had only been delayed by a matter of months. 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: His message was echoed yesterday by his Defense secretary Pete Hegseth. 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: When you actually look at the report, by the way, 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: it was a top secret report, it was preliminary, it 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 5: was low confidence, all right, So this is a you 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 5: make assessments based on what you. 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Know that it said. 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 5: It could be very devastating, very severe, and we believe 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: far more likely severe and obliterated. 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: Pete Hesath speaking there is, Iran issued a statement claiming 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: its nuclear facilities had in fact been badly damaged, though 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: no further details were provided. The Wall Street Journal is 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: reporting that in recent weeks, the US President has toyed 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: with the idea of selecting an announcing Pal's replacement by 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: September or October. Yesterday, Trump publicly mused over who could 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: succeed Powell. 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know within three or four people who are 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: going to pick. I mean, he goes out pretty soon, unfortunately, 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: because I think he's terrible. We have no inflation, we 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 4: have a tremendous economy. 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: The US President has referred to the Fed share as 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: too late Powell due to his reluctance to lower rates. 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal says former Fed Governor Kevin Warsh 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: and any C director Kevin Hassett or on Trump's shortlist, 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: alongside former World Bank President David Malpass and the current 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: FED Governor Christopher Waller. Jerom Powell was back on Capitol 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: Hill for a second day of congressional testimony yesterday. He 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: said the US Center Bank is still struggling to determine 69 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: the impact of tariffs on consumer prices. In Vidia share 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: sorry to a record high on Wednesday, overtaking Microsoft to 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: become the world's most valuable company. The stock rose by 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: more than four percent, lifting the chip giants market cap 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: to three point seven seven trillion dollars. In Video has 74 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: gained sixty three percent since April, fueled by massive demand 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: for AI hardware and strong earnings. The Director General of 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: the British Chambers of Commerce has warned against raising taxes 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: further on UK companies. Speaking to Bloomberg, Chavon Havland said 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: a high could lead to an economic slowdown. In a 79 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: message to the Chancellor ahead of the BCC's annual conference today. 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 6: We want the government to look at how they can 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 6: ease that cost of doing business. Taxes are really dragging 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 6: our businesses down. We need them to be released to grow. 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 6: So where's the long term roadmap forul is in the 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 6: cost of doing. 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: Business, Chavon Havlan speaking there. Her warning comes as Rachel 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: Reeves faces pressure from her own party over planned benefit 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: cuts while also seeking to revive the country's flagging growth. 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Taxes are raised by forty billion pounds in Reeve's last budget, 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: including a twenty six billion pounds height to the National 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Insurance Payroll Tax which took effect in April, and as 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: the UK searches for fresh sources of economic growth. The 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: government says it's seeking to increase the recognition of British 93 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: professional certifications abroad and parts has more. 94 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 7: With services making up more than eighty percent of the 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 7: country's GDP, the government is turning his attention to boosting 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 7: the sector's exports. It wants to make it easy if 97 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 7: highly skilled employees to work for clients overseas. Number ten 98 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 7: says it wants to use trade deals to expand acceptance 99 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 7: of professional accreditations outside the UK, opening up new markets 100 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 7: for law, accounting and other highly regulated sectors. Meanwhile, a 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 7: new report lays bare the economic challenges facing the government, 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 7: saying the twenty twenties are on course to be the 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 7: worst decade for living standards in the past sixty years. 104 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 7: According to the Resolution Foundation, a typical UK family's real 105 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 7: disposable income in the five years to twenty thirty is 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 7: set to rize just one percent after adjusting for housing costs. 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 7: Over the whole decade, the Think Tanks says, real disposable 108 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 7: incomes are set to see no growth whatsoever. In London, 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 7: I'm youwing pots Bloomberg Radio. 110 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Those are your tap stories on the markets this morning. 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: The Mascio specific endex up by four tenths of one percent. 112 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: We're watching marcus reaction though to that report that Donald 113 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: Trump is considering naming the FED chair early to replace 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: Jerome Powell in eleven months time when his term ends. 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: The Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index two tenths weeker this morning. 116 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: The ten year Treasury eel down to basis points four 117 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: point two seven percent is where that's trading. European stock 118 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: futures pointing slightly higher this morning, up a tenth of 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: one percent for eurostock's fifty futures. 120 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: Nasdaq futures two tenths higher as well. 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: Of course, in focus after the rally in Nvidia shares 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: yesterday as well well. In a moment, we will bring 123 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: you more on what came out of the NATO Defense 124 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 2: Summit as EU leaders meet in Brussels today. Plus Caroline 125 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: is at the City UK's annual conference. Will speak to 126 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: her in just a moment. Bought another story that caught 127 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: our eye this morning. The new director of the next 128 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: Bond film has been announced, the French Canadian Danny Villenev, 129 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: who has been announced by Amazon MGM Studios as the 130 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: director of the next Bond film as well. Of course, 131 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: he's the director and co writer of the June films 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: as well as Arrival, Blade Runner twenty forty nine in Prisoners. 133 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: He's been nominated for an Oscar for three of his 134 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: last four films. His appointment part of a shakeup of 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: the Bond franchise. The longtime producers, Barbara broccoley and Michael G. 136 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: Wilson had sold creative control of a too Amazon MGM 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: earlier this year, a deal report at the time to 138 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: be worth a billion dollars. 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Film of for his part, it says he's a. 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Die hard Bond fan that he intends to honor the 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: tradition and open the path for many new missions to come, 142 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: so plenty to watch out for in the next highly 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: awighted Bond film to come in the franchise. European leaders 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: are meeting in Brussels today after yesterday's NATO summits, where 145 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: many of them agreed to new defense spending targets a 146 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: five percent of GDP, and US President Donald Trump renewed 147 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: his commitment to the Alliance's collective defense principle. Let's speak 148 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: to our correspondent Oliver Crook, who was at the NATO summit. 149 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: He's in Brussels today. 150 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: Oliver, let's start with what happened at NATO then, A 151 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: win for Donald. 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Trump, but also for European leaders present. 153 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 8: I think that in a sort of rare transaction between 154 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 8: European leaders and Donald Trump, this was really a good 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 8: win for everybody, with potentially the exception of Spain. But 156 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 8: you Donald Trump came in with this demand in the 157 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 8: sort of up to his inauguration for NATO to spend 158 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 8: five percent of their GDP on defense. Again, this is 159 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 8: a concept I think that was initially kind of shrugged off. 160 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 8: It was written as impractical, impossible, totally unrealistic. And what 161 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 8: Donald Trump achieved yesterday is to get all of the 162 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 8: NATO members to sign on to spending five percent of 163 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 8: their GDP on defense going forward. That is a massive 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 8: win for the President of the United States. I think 165 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 8: that it's fair to say that, you know, this would 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 8: not have happened without the presence of Donald Trump in 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 8: the Oval office. There's you know, there's been a lot 168 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 8: of complaints through the years that the Europeans have not 169 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 8: been pulling their weight on defense, and this is something 170 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 8: that he can, i think justly go around and say 171 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 8: has been a massive win for the President of the 172 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 8: United States. That being said, he did also highlight the 173 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 8: fact that Spain was reticent to sign on to that figure. 174 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 8: He then threatened, you know, more trade action against the Spanish, 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 8: which is really going to be one of the focuses 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 8: for EU leaders today because we go from the last crisis, 177 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 8: which was Article five and NATO going forward into the 178 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 8: trade negotiations with the United States as that deadline looms, just. 179 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: Linking together, that's question of that I'm sure to come 180 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: up and the EU leader summit today as well. Around Spain. 181 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump critical of Spain for holding out on increasing 182 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: defense spending, saying tougher trade terms could be imposed in 183 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: the country as a result. What does that mean in 184 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: the context of the ongoing talks between the EU and 185 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: the US on trade. 186 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think right now it'll be treated a little 187 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 8: bit like noise. I mean, as you know, Steven, you know, 188 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 8: the competence of trade is something that has been delegated 189 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 8: from individual member states to the European Union. You know, 190 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 8: there's a sort of kind of Article five on trade 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 8: for the European Union. Attack on one as an attack 192 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 8: on all. So it's you know, it's not generally how 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 8: it happens. But I think that what is going to 194 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 8: be concerning for European leaders now is from all the 195 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 8: reporting we have done is there has not been a 196 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 8: huge amount of progress between the US and the EU 197 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 8: as they sort of limp towards that deadline of July 198 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 8: the ninth, and remember Donald Trump ratcheted up the pressure 199 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 8: on that. Now as of July the ninth, if there 200 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 8: is no deal, there will be fifty percent tariffs between 201 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 8: the United States and the EU. And so there's different 202 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 8: sort of ways in which different member states are suggesting 203 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 8: a approaching this or are those who are saying, listen, 204 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 8: we need to be very sort of hard with the 205 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 8: United States, even if they impose a baseline tariff of 206 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 8: ten percent, which is remember what the UK was still 207 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 8: stuck with, the EU should retaliate. Other members state say 208 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 8: this will only infuriate the president and this is going 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 8: to create a even more escalating trade war. And then 210 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 8: actually a fast deal, if imperfect, is better than no 211 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 8: deal at all. So I think that is going to 212 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 8: be one of the main focuses for the leaders that 213 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 8: assembled here in Brussels, is to sort of look at 214 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 8: the way that they are where they're willing to compromise. 215 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 8: Of course, there are also other issues, the fact that 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 8: basically the United States is apparently demanding, according to some 217 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 8: of the people we're speaking to, sort of unilateral terms 218 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 8: and really unbalanced practices within this trade deal. 219 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Oliver Krook in Brussels, thank you very much for that. Well, 220 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: let's go to Caroline this morning, who is at the 221 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: City UK's annual conference. The group represents UK based financial 222 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: services and it's a moment to hear from the industry 223 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: about what they want when it comes to UK competitiveness 224 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: and growth. 225 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Caroline, good morning. How supportive is the government then of 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: financial services? What's the mood for this. 227 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: Conference, well, this is the financial industry gathering in the 228 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: heart of Westminster, so it's really a marriage of finance, 229 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: business and politics and we're into this labor government. 230 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: Of course. 231 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: Remember last year we were also here. There was a 232 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: lot of engagement with the government in waiting as it 233 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: was lots of optimism about a fresh start. Financial services 234 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 3: is one of the growth areas that the government has 235 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: earmarked in the recent Industrial Strategy, but there are others too. 236 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: Eight in all Kids Sarma's government said on Wednesday that 237 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: they're going to try to expand this recognition of professional 238 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: certifications abroad, so that could help things like accounting, a 239 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: law and other occupations and boost services exports from the UK, 240 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: but there is still a huge hill to climb. Speaking 241 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: to Mars Sellick, who's the CEO of the City UK, 242 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: he says he just wants action faster on regulation, on planning, 243 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: on attracting talent to the UK and it needs to 244 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: be delivered, he says, in a much more effective way. 245 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: So this feels to me like we might be getting 246 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: close to a scorecard from the financial industry on this government. 247 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: Have a listened to what Miles Seleik told me. 248 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 9: We cannot be complacent on this. We have no god 249 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 9: given right to be a successful all of the world's 250 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 9: two most successful international financial centers and I do worry 251 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 9: about complacency. We cannot afford to be complacent. 252 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: So that was Miles Seleik, the CEO of the City UK, 253 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: speaking to me ahead of this event today. The government 254 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Stephen does have some huge issues sluggish economic growth. In 255 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: the last quarter. The UK did do a trade deal 256 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: with the US, but it still faces this ten percent 257 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: tariff and experts of the US have obviously gone down. 258 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: Additional taxes on business that the British Chambers of Commerce 259 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: said only today must not be repeated. A very difficult 260 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: fiscal position with much higher borrowing costs for this government 261 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: than let's say, on the continent. So there are really 262 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: huge headwinds and the government seems to be casting around 263 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: to lots of different industries to try to drive economic growth, 264 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: but it has to do more to deliver. 265 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: What about Carolyn questions of deregulation as well, very much 266 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: to the forefront of the debate happening in the financial 267 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: services industry. 268 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've tracked lots of reviews and consultations from the 269 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: PRA from the FCA, the regulators here in the UK 270 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: on remuneration for banks and building society bosses on consumer 271 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: protections and financial address on politically exposed people. Perhaps lots 272 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: of issues, esg ratings, agencies, so many issues. But the 273 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: question is what does that amount to in total? What 274 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: is the actual drive on deregulation now? And it also 275 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: does feel like the government maybe is helping business with 276 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: one hand but then taking away with another. I mean, 277 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: the ending of the non dom tax benefit overhangs everything. 278 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: It's prompted something of a wealth exodus. We've seen also 279 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: swift delistings from the London Sock Exchange in the past year, 280 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: an area you know where again the government tried regulatory changes, 281 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 3: but have they really made a difference, And perhaps they 282 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 3: take a long time to take effect. So the question 283 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: is whether it's also too late to reverse that exodus 284 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: from the London stock Exchange or not. So deregulation is 285 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: happening bit by bit, what does it amount to, what 286 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: is it delivering? I think that's some questions really for 287 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: the panel that I'm going to be speaking on later. 288 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and that's one of the key conversations that 289 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: we're watching and we'll bring it to our listeners on 290 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Radio later as well. This Caroline, all ahead of 291 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: the Chancellor's Mansion House speech in a couple of weeks time. 292 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: What should we be expecting. What are we expecting to 293 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: hear from the industry around that. 294 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: Look, the Chancellor's under pressure, not just because of her 295 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: own MPs, but also because of the bond markets. Her 296 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: headroom is incredibly narrow and it is under constant scrutiny. 297 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: The Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey recently warned about this, 298 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: So there will be lots to look at in the 299 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: Mansion House speech. Look, the City UK want more details 300 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: on how the financial services sector can deliver economic growth. 301 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: They want the actual sort of framework. Will there also 302 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: be maybe changes to visas, maybe an investment visa or 303 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: changes to isers that's also been floated. The bottom line 304 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: is will financial services make a difference to productivity and 305 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: economic growth? How is the government going to do that 306 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: when their fiscal room to kind of pick winners and 307 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: losers in the economy is very very limited. And when 308 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: you step away from that, why is it so important? 309 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: It's that Resolution Foundation report that we mentioned just earlier 310 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: household incomes are expected to stagnate this decade. And remember 311 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: you have Reform UK riding high in the polls. The 312 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: Labor government's polar rating has sunk rapidly, much more rapidly 313 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: than past governments have, and Reform UK has been swift 314 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: to offer things like a flat tax for wealthy people 315 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: wanting to move into the UK. All are flat tax 316 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: for people up to twenty pounds in income. So they're there, 317 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: you know, on the sidelines making their offers. As the 318 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: Labor governments it has to come up with their own answers. 319 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, lots of expectation for the Mansion House speech 320 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: on the fifteenth of July two. 321 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 322 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 323 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, 324 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 325 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 326 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 327 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 328 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: Amazon Alexa devices. 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