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Speaker 1: Well, you know the first question I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you when you first got to the league, who's the

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Speaker 2: Your first person to bust my ass? Steve Nash. I

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Speaker 2: had like a stretch.

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Speaker 3: I had a stretch where where I had d Rose Rondo.

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Speaker 3: Then I went to the West coast, I had Russ

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Speaker 3: CP and Steve Nash and this one, you know you

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Speaker 3: want to pick. You know he got running pick and roll.

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Speaker 3: You always ribbed around the baseline. He went ten to

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Speaker 3: ten against me. I was like, here's nowhere in hell

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Speaker 3: he cooking me like this. But yeah, that's the first

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 4: Did he hit his little signature layout, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was mad, I'm contesting, I'm chasing him. I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't even care about scoring right now, I just

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Speaker 4: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 5: We live on location, New York City. We in up

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Speaker 5: building NBA Draft Week. I always got the blackest one

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Speaker 5: with me. Today we got a very very very special guest.

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Speaker 5: Former number one overall pick gone to North Carore. That

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Speaker 5: line's finest in the building. We got missed the John

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Speaker 5: Wallman multiple time, all s time, multiple time, big time,

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Speaker 5: appreciate you pulling.

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Speaker 2: Up on him, plus show that you know that yes it's.

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Speaker 4: In high school.

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Speaker 1: You was considered probably a late bloom. Would you say,

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Speaker 1: how did they miss you?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 6: It was like when I first seen I was like,

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Speaker 6: did you get a gross person?

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Speaker 4: Something out at night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So like tenth grade, I was like five seven, five eight,

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Speaker 3: but I was always nice, Like I was averaging forty

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Speaker 3: at thirteen fifteen. But my AU team I played for

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Speaker 3: Gondo Bulldog David West had random program, but we never

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Speaker 3: really traveled nationwise and like we'd go to Nationals.

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 3: Then I transferred but went to a D one Sports.

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Speaker 3: Brian Clifton ran the program. They had like Eric Wallace, Marshall,

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Speaker 3: Moses Chris turned those guys before me. I took an

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Speaker 3: eighteen hour drive from North Carolina Chicago. They had like

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Speaker 3: a rebok on the classmen camp and I had a mohawk.

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Speaker 2: I came to the camp with a mohawk. Late all

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Speaker 2: that and now.

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Speaker 3: They only took the five best players out of that

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Speaker 3: camp to go to rebok You. They used to kind

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Speaker 3: of be like the ABCD camp. They just changed to

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Speaker 3: rebok you. In Philly, and I always wanted to fire

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Speaker 3: to go there, and uh, the rest was history. After that,

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Speaker 3: I left that camp, then wone play in the country.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And how did you not make the McDonald's game, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's just crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, they tried to say, like I was the fiftieth seen,

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Speaker 3: but I really was my right age. I mean I

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Speaker 3: just reclassed back to my right grade. But that was

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Speaker 3: their excuse why he made McDonald's. But I made every

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Speaker 3: other All Star game in one MVP. So yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't and I didn't win Mister Basketball in North Carolina,

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Speaker 3: but you're neither.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when did it turnover that you felt like you

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Speaker 1: I wanted the guys. That's one of the best players nationally,

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Speaker 3: I always knew, like I always used to watch like

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Speaker 3: I was like, if I get the opportunity to play

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Speaker 3: So when I got the opportunity, I did it. But

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Speaker 3: after the camp, you go to Vegas, for the Reebox

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Speaker 3: So they just kept my buzz going going into my

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Speaker 5: Who would you say was like one of the when

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Speaker 5: you said, if you see any of these guys, did

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, Like I looked at Brandon Jennis, you know me,

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Speaker 3: Starts with a Taylor King, Chase Buttinger, Kevin love Leak's

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Speaker 3: So I'm watching guys like him, Duel, Gottie Dexter strictly,

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Speaker 3: And I got a different type of dog, and I

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Speaker 1: Your speed like you get some like you fast as hell?

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Speaker 1: Like when did you control it? Because like when I

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Speaker 3: I think I always controlled it. But the one thing

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Speaker 3: I mean my rookie year, I'm pushing the ball. I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of time the transition. I can

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Speaker 3: So it was funny because I was like summer and

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Speaker 1: Could it have been anybody else but Kentucky for college?

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Speaker 3: Like it's a funny story. I'm watching d Rose player.

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Speaker 3: Like my mind since that day for that's the school

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Speaker 5: After the All American Games and stuff like that. When

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Speaker 5: like in the first you know, how when you get

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Speaker 3: because he was just as good. And that's somebody that

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Speaker 3: And I remember when he committed to Kentucky, everybody's like,

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Speaker 1: How was this to play with that much talent though,

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Speaker 1: Like I had a squad, like.

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Speaker 3: My high school team was loaded too though, like I

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Speaker 3: had Desmills, Bishop Daniels, TJ. Leslie, Like I had a

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Speaker 3: nice high school team too, But like Kentucky, I'm playing

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Speaker 3: So a great team, it was just I think some

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Speaker 3: they didn't understand coach Kyle mindset and pedigree of how

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Speaker 3: And then you look at the next year, they kind

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Speaker 3: of got to what they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: How did you feel when her bigger cousin said, is

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Speaker 1: that you taught him how to be a pro? Like

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Speaker 1: even though you know you've learning and on the fly yourself.

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Speaker 1: Did that feel good to just know that you was

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Speaker 1: carrying yourself a certain way to be a number one pick,

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Speaker 1: to be who you were.

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Speaker 3: I just give all the testimony to my mom, you

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Speaker 3: She said, always be known as a better person than

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Speaker 2: But I met Book at thirteen. It was funny.

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Speaker 3: We was playing against each other and nationals and we

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, Bro, It's just it was so really understanding.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to go to class. It's like negative degrees.

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Speaker 4: When and how did the John All dance originate?

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Speaker 3: Man for one, like I really like growing up, I

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Speaker 4: In the league.

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Speaker 1: Did you say before you they announced you the starting lineup?

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Speaker 6: There was like, man, I'm finna dug all the.

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Speaker 3: Nah broil Gil said I wouldn't do it. Hardest one said,

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Speaker 3: He gave me a little friendly wager bet and I was like,

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Speaker 4: I never listen.

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Speaker 5: When I saw that, I was like, bro, I think

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Speaker 4: We dances out here like, what is going crazy?

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Speaker 3: I started to come up my shell a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So they went, did you have to work out?

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Speaker 1: How many workouts you had?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was cool after that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think they was trying to set up

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Speaker 2: I guess they were trying to decide.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like it there was no brain

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Speaker 1: Like, how was the draft for you? Like the experience

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Speaker 3: That for me, like I said, bro being in skinning

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I see my mom sacrifice working three

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Speaker 2: She got to pick my suit out.

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Speaker 3: My family, first time really coming to New York, Like

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Speaker 3: your name go number one, Like you're getting up better

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Speaker 2: So like should my mom cry?

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Speaker 3: I still say the video when she was doing like

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Speaker 3: Like now for me to still be able to want

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Speaker 3: just trying to teach them the pedigree of whatever they

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Speaker 2: You can do it. You just if you sign up

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how was it for you? Like you you just

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Speaker 5: The day before you signed a crazy deal with Reebok.

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Speaker 5: Like in that moment when you shake and it was

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Speaker 5: you know, as hoopers, we didn't watch that repeatedly all

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Speaker 5: Like in that moment, Like what was you thinking? Like

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Speaker 5: Like what did that feel?

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Speaker 2: Like I said it was fake?

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Speaker 3: I thought I was dreaming because like I never thought

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Speaker 3: I'd shake David's third hand. And then on top of

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Speaker 3: that to go number one. I'm like, I'm the first

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Speaker 3: last one to leave. I'm here for eight hours doing

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Speaker 3: mad interviews and like you said, piggyback on like sign

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Speaker 3: grow up. You know you want to wear certain shoes

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Speaker 3: and certain deals, and I remember going to the headquarters

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Speaker 3: and my favorite player, the reason why I fell in

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Speaker 2: He down there at the end of the meeting. It

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Speaker 3: It was like, I wanted to wear this, but I

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Speaker 3: I want to do the same. So that was another

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Speaker 3: stepping stone that got me over the hump of signing

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Speaker 3: with him.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that that's a bar. They brought Bubba

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Speaker 4: Chuck in them. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I remember telling them the town that you first met him.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, listen he talking about the first time at

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Speaker 5: a Fortunately he was there, he didn't get to he

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Speaker 5: didn't get to you know, the glory I got.

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Speaker 6: So chicken pop.

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Speaker 4: We went. This was our first ever thing.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 5: We got drafted, like you say, the same time, June

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Speaker 5: d so like Joe back at this point, this when

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Speaker 5: they used to have the big time charity events. Zoe

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Speaker 5: and it's in Miami. It was called Zoe Summer Groove.

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Speaker 5: So we went down, you know as the young boys.

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Speaker 5: So we went Monday. We there whole week, we staying

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Speaker 5: Friday when everybody get there, it was literally a mini

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Speaker 5: All Star game, bro, Like you think about Vince had

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Speaker 5: oh he there, t Mac there, kg Iverson, Steph Marlberry,

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Speaker 5: Uh just name him twine Walker, Bob, Sir, Larry. Everybody

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Speaker 5: was there. It was like a mini All Star game

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Speaker 5: in the summer. He get chicken pox on Friday when

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Speaker 5: go nowhere. First night out, Bro, Larry Hughes, come call me.

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Speaker 5: I'm were about to go out, Bro. I come getting

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Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, I'm inn oh. I got me a

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Speaker 5: what's up? You know Larry Bug introduced me. He said,

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Speaker 5: He tell his homeboy go upstairs. He come down with

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Speaker 5: put that chain on. Bro, you couldn't what I thought.

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Speaker 5: I was level in the club. I will use it.

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Speaker 4: I will him get back. I'm running to him.

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Speaker 2: He's mad.

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Speaker 5: We telling him, like, Bro, I was with such and

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Speaker 5: such such a sah. He's sitting there just he's SI

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Speaker 5: getting oat meal. Bad a little badass kids gave me.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen years old. They had chicken pox. Yeah, various smiles, ladies.

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Speaker 6: Just damn.

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Speaker 1: I don't be around bad ass kids giving chicken pop man.

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Speaker 4: Hold y'all had him and we were supposed to have

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Speaker 6: Ship and get chicken pox boy right here.

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Speaker 4: So after you get.

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Speaker 6: Drafted and you go to d C.

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Speaker 1: You got give with Arenas there you got you know,

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Speaker 1: different guys. How was that like playing in your first

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Speaker 2: Well, my first game was gett Dwhite Howard.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is some bullshit, And I was

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Speaker 3: Howard like depensive player of the year. So I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna score down there, like he going to block

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Speaker 3: home and have my first home game where I dance

438
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,680
Speaker 3: and I almost had like a quadruple double that game.

439
00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,320
Speaker 3: So I think I had nine steals, like twenty some

440
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,320
Speaker 3: points like eleven cis eight rebounds. That's when I knew,

441
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,760
Speaker 3: like I belonged in the NBA and I had a

442
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,280
Speaker 3: chance to be special. But shout out to guild Man

443
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,240
Speaker 3: because like I, he even said some researot like on

444
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,560
Speaker 3: his podcast, like I made him fall back in love

445
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,080
Speaker 3: with the game of basketball when I had called him

446
00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,399
Speaker 3: and asked him, like, how can I get better? And

447
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,280
Speaker 3: I didn't know, like he wasn't watching the game so

448
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760
Speaker 3: right then and then when everybody else found out, that's

449
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,960
Speaker 3: when I found out. But for him to go through

450
00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,560
Speaker 3: what he went through and then it come there and

451
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,320
Speaker 3: be a vent for me, like you know, I mean

452
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,320
Speaker 3: the city was his at that time and then go

453
00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,840
Speaker 3: what he went through and then coming there and like me,

454
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,840
Speaker 3: he told me you didn't have to do that, And

455
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,320
Speaker 3: it was dope for me because I told him when

456
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,560
Speaker 3: I walked in there, I seen him at my press

457
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 3: coming I'm like, man, I looked up to you and

458
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 3: he walked in and he was like man. His billing

459
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 3: mode was like I'm coming in to like compete against

460
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,320
Speaker 3: this guy and try to get my spot back. But

461
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 3: he took the back scene was a great vet to

462
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,080
Speaker 3: me and somebody I still look up to and I

463
00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,560
Speaker 3: could call the brothers. So it was dope to be

464
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,479
Speaker 3: around those guys. Kurt Heim was another great VET I had.

465
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,160
Speaker 3: I had more emmas at the time. K captain. Kurt

466
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,160
Speaker 3: was dope, man. It was a great VET, Like I'm

467
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 3: asking him questions. I got to meet a lot of

468
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,880
Speaker 3: other great Vets on my team, like Trevor revesa out Herington,

469
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,680
Speaker 3: Drew Good and Andre Miller, Nay the Gorton. Just playing

470
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 3: with those guys and just picking their brains about how

471
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 3: the league go. And most of the time early on,

472
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 3: you lose a lot when you're on a bad team.

473
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean when you get drafted high.

474
00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,359
Speaker 3: And I remember we lost like our first twenty nine

475
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,919
Speaker 3: roll games, like every time you won the rows like

476
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 3: l l L. So I'm like, how do you, Like

477
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm asking him at the games, like do you get

478
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 3: used to this? So like how do you continue to

479
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 3: work through this process? Because I never lost that many

480
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,399
Speaker 3: games in my life? Lost life, Yeah, It's like how

481
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,159
Speaker 3: I do all three games a year before that?

482
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 2: So I'm like, how do I figure it out?

483
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 3: Like do I continue to go in the gym and

484
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 3: put the work in when days and not going for

485
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 3: you winning or losing. They was like, just stick with

486
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 3: the ground and all pay yourself out.

487
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 4: How did it feel for you?

488
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 5: Like you on mvpeer the summer League, you want mv

489
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 5: peer the rookie game, and then.

490
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 4: Blake Griffin get Rookie of the Year. And this is

491
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,120
Speaker 4: my thing. I don't. I don't. I didn't, we didn't ever.

492
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,120
Speaker 4: I wasn't in that race.

493
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 5: But like for me, I feel like that anybody, I

494
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,479
Speaker 5: don't care which year you want to look at, Ben Simmons,

495
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 5: whoever you wanna look at. When those guys get hurt

496
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,239
Speaker 5: and then they get the restart that next year, they

497
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 5: got the upper hand on that whole class because they

498
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 5: know what it is to be a pro. They've been

499
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 5: through the whole season, we know, having played or whatever.

500
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 5: They know the travel, they know different things that the

501
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 5: regular rookies are getting hit with that that doesn't make

502
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 5: them really a rookie. And it s ain't you know

503
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 5: me calling anybody person. I love Blake, I love all

504
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 5: of the guys that, but I'm just saying I feel

505
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 5: like it's an unfair advantage for those those guys.

506
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 4: I feel you it's messed up. They lost their rookie year.

507
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 5: But to me, they're still not rookies to be able

508
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 5: to get it over the next.

509
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: Say, you gotta treat it the same as like if

510
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 3: I think it's like a lot of people might say

511
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 3: it and be don't get hurt this year. Well he's

512
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 3: the MVP, right, he was the front runner, so like,

513
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 3: he don't get to get that award back next year

514
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 3: unless he go out and produce.

515
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: And like you said, injuries are part of the game.

516
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 4: It sucks.

517
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 3: But if you've already been there one year and know

518
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: the game, get the treatment, getting the lifts, like you

519
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 3: shouldn't be.

520
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: A rookie the next year.

521
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: So I was mad because I would have got my

522
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 3: bonus as another trophy I would have had in the house.

523
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 3: And uh, I remember I just had a list Frank

524
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 3: Spring my list Frank injury in Chicago, and I turned

525
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: on going the locker room at the game and turner

526
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: it's paying. This is when Blake start the crazy dunk

527
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: against the Knicks. I was like, yeah, lost, I lost

528
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. When I said rookie, you over

529
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: with He had like three major dunks that game. GALLINOI

530
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 3: dunked on Mars off one time. I said, yeah, rookie,

531
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 3: the year gone get that trophy.

532
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 4: Good.

533
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: I got hurt that game and watched the hot I say,

534
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 3: is over it. There was nothing else.

535
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, we all when we get to lead, we

536
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: want to win MVPs, want to win all the awards.

537
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 6: We want to make All Star games.

538
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: When you first heard that you made the All Star Game,

539
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: what was that feeling for you?

540
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: Dope? Man?

541
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 3: Like, now you feel like you win the best players

542
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: in the league. Like the work you put in to

543
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: get through, the process you went through, it all started

544
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: to come together and then we started to win a

545
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: little bit.

546
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

547
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: And I said, if I get to make the All

548
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: Star Game, I did a dunk contest. So I did

549
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: a dunk contest. I won't gonna do it no more though,

550
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 3: but I did it, got my win and I was

551
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 3: cool with it. But just to be known and being

552
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: at locker room, bro, like you've been there with the greats,

553
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: bro like the best in the league. You got Lebron

554
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: in there, you know what I mean. You got Stephan

555
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: there at the time, you got James Hard, you got

556
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: Russell westbook KD. I'm like, damn, I'm one of those

557
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: guys that fit in this role with them, so it

558
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: was dope. Joe Johnson was all started at that time,

559
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: so it was special to be there.

560
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 5: But I want to salute you is one of the

561
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 5: you know, you was an up, you know, a young star.

562
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: Because everybody ain't doing it right now, I be wanting

563
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 5: to see all of these boys, Zion, Joe, everybody in

564
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 5: the dunk contest. I salute you for being one of

565
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 5: them dudes that went out there like whatever it ain't about,

566
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 5: Oh it's somebody gonna talk bad. I don't know what

567
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 5: the reason for nobody not doing it, but I salute

568
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 5: you for being the top overall pick and being one

569
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 5: of the superstar young boys like a Kobe, like those

570
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 5: guys before you that came in there and you put

571
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 5: on whether and you want it. But even the fact

572
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 5: that you just did it because people, to me, it

573
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: seemed like, for whatever reason, they don't want to put

574
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: themselves out there like our best, some of our youngest

575
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 5: best superstars, the Anthony Edwards, the zionsom.

576
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 4: I want to see y'all w a dunk content.

577
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 3: You know, like how everybody was like it's all star game,

578
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 3: gonna get back to it. It's gonna be all the weekend,

579
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: gonna be like you said, those stars gotta be in

580
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: those events.

581
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: That's what everybody want to see.

582
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: And I was like, I told you, if I make

583
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: one All Star Game, I'd be in the first dunk contest.

584
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do it multiple times, but I at

585
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 3: least do it one time. And once I got the

586
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: nod I want and did it, so that was cool.

587
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: Who instill the importance of court vision and passing to you?

588
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Because your court vision your past. Who instill that and

589
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: you to look make you know you see the play

590
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: ahead of time.

591
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: Feel I always tell people the person guarding me, I

592
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: don't worry about him. I don't worry about where helpsid

593
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: coming from. So I'm already reading reads and plays before anybody.

594
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: Can even imagine it. That's just where my mind be at.

595
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: But I don't know, bro, I just like always my life,

596
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: I've always been a scorer. I really never had to

597
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 3: pass because my team needed me to score. Then I

598
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: involved until like, okay, now gods are double team me.

599
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: I'm making the right reads, just making the right play. Yeah,

600
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: So it just became easy. But some of my passes,

601
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: like some people can't make like bron can make it.

602
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 2: He's six. I'm six or four.

603
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be able to make some of

604
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: the passes I make.

605
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: But I don't really work on it.

606
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: Just be instincts, instinct like some of my movies. I

607
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: make it just instincts.

608
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: When I watch you play like you so fast, like

609
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: it just seemed like you feel it. It's like you

610
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: play like you just feel the game.

611
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 6: I feel it.

612
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm just going with the flow.

613
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just that's It's the same way I approach life,

614
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: like just going with the flow. Like I'm never pressing

615
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: too much about anything, never going into anything with many expectations.

616
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: I just go with the flow and I but I

617
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: know I give everything. I got the best results gonna

618
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: come out of it.

619
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: You're offn When did you get the confidence to dunk

620
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: on folks with your left all?

621
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: Right?

622
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: Bro? I never could jump off my left foot.

623
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: I don't know why, Like I'm indexious though, Like I

624
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 3: shoot pool left handed, I bowl left handed. So I

625
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: went to dunk in like eleven grade when day off

626
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: my left foot and got hung bad. So the next

627
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: day I jumped out my right foot and it was easy,

628
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: like flush and I'm like, all right, now I'm dunking

629
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: off my right foot.

630
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: One of my favorite highlights from you is the behind

631
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: the back in Atlanta, and like that's one.

632
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: That's my best heiglight in my career for sure.

633
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: Only one other player probably do like me, is like

634
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: you Holiday, like he dunk, he dunk his left but

635
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: he plays right in it like.

636
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: Boozer used to do that.

637
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, Booze was right hand but every time he dun.

638
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 3: But his guards just like so like we catch him

639
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: off guard a lot like that. I don't know, it's

640
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: just like I try to jump on my left foot.

641
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: It was just never different.

642
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: But explaining that highlight, I just said the Atlanta highlight.

643
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: All right from when I'm mad because I told my team,

644
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: I was like, the role players always play better at home,

645
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 3: you know how, go in the playoffs, so like they

646
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: gonna come out, they role players gonna make shots that

647
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: they were not making the DC. We're staying their first punch,

648
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: like don't get you rattled. And I'm mad because they're

649
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 3: on the barage and you hear to come and tell

650
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: you all day on the hawkses on the barage. Another three,

651
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: I just take two dribbles and I see then they

652
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: show to go for it still and not just instincts

653
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: behind the PA and I was gonna lay the ball up,

654
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 3: but Ken Baizmore was like trying to block it. I

655
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: was like, all right, now you gotta be on a poster.

656
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, the Wizards like lost like six years in

657
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: the row to see. You know, when you lose, guys,

658
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: they don't want to come out no more. How they

659
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: used to it so far far when you've seen the

660
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: city make the playoffs and how the city changed and

661
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: how they was like, yeah, we're making playoffs every year

662
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: and they were so confident and seeing how was that

663
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: to see the city change into a contender?

664
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: Oh from being there from twenty ten and she not

665
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: where it progressed. The city always show louve Bro like

666
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: they treated me like it was home for me, you

667
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And to this day, like I

668
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 3: still get to love me. My pops is from there,

669
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 3: So it was a blessing to be that close to

670
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: home my family in North Carolina. It's a four hour drive,

671
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 3: so it was amazing. My family, Like sometime they'll pull

672
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: up to my house, I'm like, who WHOA I ain't

673
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: tell nobody to come today, like y'all just but they

674
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: already there. But like the way the city was that

675
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: they love sports, but they love their sports, so they

676
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: gonna tell you when you're walking around like hey, get

677
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: y'all shit together, y'all trash, like they're gonna be honest.

678
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: But to see it transform and get to the playoffs, Oh,

679
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: it was the best feeling ever, bro.

680
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: Like it was lit like that.

681
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: I still watch videos from time to time just to

682
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: know that environment and to be in that space. But

683
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: like you said, anybody's like a sport town. They want

684
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 3: to see you when they want to succeed, and they

685
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: showed all the love and respect from day one.

686
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: How was it for me? Obviously?

687
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: You know when we're going through it and we we

688
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 5: heading toward it like you in that last shit you

689
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 5: could predict and everything, how is it from like imagining

690
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 5: it like, man, I'm about to get the MAX. I

691
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: better get the MAX to like inking that max, like

692
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 5: signing your name on that paper, and then it's like, bro,

693
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: I'm straight forever.

694
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

695
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: Well the first max I was like you know, I

696
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: mean exactly yeah, the first and they was like we're

697
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: debating if you want to give it to you, not

698
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: like we gotta see you win cause we wasn't making

699
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: the playoffs yet I signed them all right, bet Now

700
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in the NBA. You know, the

701
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: first four years, a lot of guys in bake Cribby.

702
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Short after they rookie deal, they don't play no more.

703
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: So I didn't have a house or nothing. I didn't

704
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: buy my first house until after I signed that first MAX.

705
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: And then I feel like I should have made more.

706
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: All NBA teams only made one for average twenty and

707
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: ten for a lot of years. But when I make

708
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 3: that second MAX, that's what I'm like, my kids, kids

709
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: is straight. Now I can really like just sit back

710
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: and relax. Your first MAX, you kind of like take

711
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: care of your family, may take care of your mom,

712
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: make sure things straight.

713
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 5: So tell me, like when you approaching that second match,

714
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: because like you say, the second match was the first

715
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: one eighty, the second one one seventy, Like when you

716
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: get that one seventy, what was that side relief? And

717
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: then your thought process like okay, now, like you said,

718
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: your kids kids, like, what was that all?

719
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: I felt like I was becoming coming into being a superstar,

720
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: like going into that role had been coming into a superstar,

721
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: you know, sad thing injuries, happy as a part of

722
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: the game. But I was I feel like I was

723
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: the second best player in that year at the bron

724
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: I mean I was on my way with hooping with ballin.

725
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: You know, you solidify yourself, man, know what I mean.

726
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Like when you get to that second Max, even third Max,

727
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: you feel like you made it, Like I'm one of

728
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: those guys. I want those guys people talk about in

729
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: the regular So it was dope to get to that platform.

730
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: Then I had my whole family come. Like my first Max,

731
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: I just signed it. When I signed that second one,

732
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: my whole family there, I'm talking alway to my nieces

733
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: and nephews.

734
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: Was that they're taking pictures. So it was a blessing.

735
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: So that's I'd have seen you a couple of times

736
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: in the Lou with Bradley Man. Just tell us about

737
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: the relationship and the bond y'all.

738
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 6: I had to be one.

739
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Of the best back courts or they considered y'all one

740
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: of the best back courts in the league at the time,

741
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: just to bond, you know, Ma lou brother.

742
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been to a little plenty of times

743
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: man like y'all got so much talent, you know what

744
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I mean. I've known Brad since like a you days

745
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: watching them play, and I remember they like, yo, we

746
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: were trying to side.

747
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: They're gonna drave Brad. And now I'm like, it's a

748
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: no brain you got to drive.

749
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: I need a sharp shooter like that to be next

750
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: to me, to watch him develop and grow to become

751
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: a way better player. Before he was just a catch

752
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: and shoot guy, run off pinned downs to get in

753
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: his bag, get his on io. Oh that's my brother, bro,

754
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: Like a lot of people want us to. It's kind

755
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: of like the Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown situations right now,

756
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: Like for years they try to compare us like they

757
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 3: can't play together. He take away from his game. Take

758
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: away from that game, It was nothing like that. Every

759
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: time he didn't make All Star, but I think he should.

760
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: I was pushing for him to get into the All

761
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: Star Game because I think he deserved it, and he

762
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: got it. He got to that spot on his own.

763
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: I've seen him raise his ab his family, appage, three

764
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: boys he have. He's still brother, bro, Like I talked

765
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: to him all the time. I give him support, but

766
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: like it's always like people always want to give up

767
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: on the back court.

768
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: Like imagine people to Gable and.

769
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum Jennen Brown after the finals they lost the

770
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: first time, they come over that hump and then they

771
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: go win the championship, and now you got people saying

772
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: always Tatum gonna be bad he didn't win and find

773
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: his EVP like they trying to start a narrative there.

774
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: It's always gonna be something to keep it in.

775
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: So as long as your brotherhood is inside of the locker

776
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: room in what y'all got is a foundation outside.

777
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: No is it the media? The negativity should never get

778
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: into that.

779
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell me is like, especially now we all twenty

780
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: twenty years hindsight. You know what I'm saying, We didn't play,

781
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 5: how long we didn't play, and we have a certain

782
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: vision for what happened, like neither of us got a

783
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: chance to do it. You played ten years for one franchise,

784
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, tell me the appreciation

785
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 5: and how much you you know what I'm saying, look

786
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: back and look over that time like that was special

787
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: because we don't all recognize it at the same you know,

788
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 5: at the time we're trying to do whatever we're trying

789
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: to do.

790
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: We in the moment, we're trying to do what.

791
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: We think it's best for us in our career right

792
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: there and this and that, Like looking back, how special

793
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: was that for you to have ten seasons in DC

794
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: and then you know you the franchise leader and assists stills,

795
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: you did a lot of things there.

796
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: I would have breaken records, That's what I'm saying.

797
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: They can't never get forgotten it.

798
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: I would have broke all the records for probably rebounding

799
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: blocks though, I feel. But for me, bro, like I

800
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: said from day one, like the community adapted to me.

801
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: Bro Like I adapted to the community because I know,

802
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: like a lot of those places Section eight warded, I

803
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: know like where they come from, so I can adapt

804
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: to them. And like I said, the fan base adapted

805
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: to me and adapted me from a ninety year old

806
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: kid with no face hair, no tattoos, no kids to

807
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: see me raise up there, have face hair, had test

808
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: have kids. But you just gotta give shout out to

809
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: the owner, tellons you know, I mean, forgive me the

810
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: opportunity to even get drafted there to play there, to

811
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: give me opportunity to get a MAX to even stay there,

812
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: and then to me putting the work there with my

813
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: trainers every day, having a great team around me, challenging

814
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: me when I'm wrong and telling me yes or no.

815
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: Some people don't have those type people around and give

816
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: me another max to stay there. And my ultimate goal

817
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: is to play for the organization for my whole career.

818
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: But things happen, you know, it's a part of the business.

819
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: Things happen. It's amazing, bro, Like there's nothing else you

820
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: could ever say. I even got the jersey tatted on me,

821
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: so it's a legacy to me.

822
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 5: You just said it twice in that like speaking on tests,

823
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: you said you came in with zero tests, like you

824
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: are one of the most tatted up dudes known for

825
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 5: not having hardly no space left. Tell me when and

826
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: how your tattoo journey started from you coming into the

827
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: league literally zero.

828
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: Tax I always wanted them. I always wanted them. I

829
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: just didn't want the hood test where you got to

830
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: get them recovered.

831
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: The way you had to get the right.

832
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: Don't you get the white person. I got the money

833
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: to pay for him. And like my tax on my journey,

834
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: My journey's the story.

835
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: So everything.

836
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: I like, the TV shows are impossible and all this

837
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: and everything means something.

838
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: All that means something to me.

839
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: So I waited so I could put my story together

840
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: the way I wanted to.

841
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: And what's your take now?

842
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: Like you see, I know you see, just like we

843
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: see guys on the internet going getting put to sleep

844
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: to get tasked. What do you think of that whole process?

845
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: A dude who got everything tatty? You ain't never want

846
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 5: to sleep.

847
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: Cheated, cheaty the game, like I ain't.

848
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: I'm away.

849
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: It's funny. I just worked out with Busy Bones in

850
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: the Miami he got. I asked him. He was like,

851
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: I ain't a lot, brother, Like two days, I feel

852
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: like I couldn't move, My back was on fire. I'm like, bro,

853
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: you got seven people tag you once like I'm not

854
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: doing that.

855
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: You don't know if they pressing too hard or like,

856
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: you don't know nothing.

857
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 6: You just wake up.

858
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: He Basically, in surgery, you wake up in pain. You

859
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: in surgery, So.

860
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: You wake up after surgery where they give you pain,

861
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: take the medicine. So I don't know how much you

862
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: can take after that?

863
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: Tell me this.

864
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: Obviously we know you ended up leaving the Wizards and

865
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: going to the rockets. How was that like when you

866
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 5: found out ultimately like the deal is done, I'm leaving.

867
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: I'm like, after everything is going on, like I'm leaving,

868
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: I'm going here and no longer going to be a wizard.

869
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 4: How did that feel for you?

870
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: It was devastating, It was hurt. It was it hurt.

871
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: I'm in Houston probably, and it's COVID at the time,

872
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: so I'm just shitting in my apartment the whole time,

873
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: really thinking like damn, I'm really not in DC no more.

874
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: Like and I was packing my bad to go to

875
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: training camp. The next day was training camp, right, and

876
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: I get the call said seven thirty you get a text,

877
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Please call Capital Letters.

878
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: I said, shit, I'm trading.

879
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: You get a text, you get a text, please call

880
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: Capital Letters. And then it come come a call the

881
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: ticker and traded. So like my team is like a

882
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: couple of guys with me and my sister with me.

883
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn it, shit really happens. So they're like

884
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: tomorrow we sitting the PJ at twelve o'clock, get your

885
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: ass on the flight, go to Houston, stay in the

886
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: hotel for like a week.

887
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: Then we got a training camp.

888
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: Then we go on the road, try to find an

889
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: apartment to stay in there, like I'm used to being

890
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: in my house.

891
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: I mean, so it was. It was difficult. It's tough.

892
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: My sons, My son was born at the time, So

893
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, do I leave them in Miami while I

894
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: stay in the summer?

895
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: Do I bring them to Houston?

896
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: Like I didn't want to keep moving around because I

897
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: don't know how long I was gonna be there, Like

898
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: I was hoping to stay there a long time and

899
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: sign extension, but they had other plans and win the

900
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: other route to try to rebuild and get some young talent,

901
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: which they got now. But I still thinking about it

902
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: to this day. But I got past that mindset of it.

903
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they speak on like, because you know, you see

904
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: d Rose and I had need problem. People don't understand,

905
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: like how hard mentally it is to sit here and

906
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: go to a gym every day and put in the

907
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: work to try to get back and play.

908
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 6: Can you speak on like.

909
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: It's tough man like you have it's always you got

910
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: good days, you got bad days, some days you like men,

911
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: I feel good, I'm gonna be back to myself. Turned

912
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: around next day you'd be like, Damn, I ain't gonna

913
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: be myself again, you know what I mean?

914
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: Like I had those problems.

915
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: I had a boon spur of my achilles that I

916
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: really took out to fix it, and I almost had

917
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: to cut my foot off.

918
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: I had three infections, so.

919
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: I had affection in my knee.

920
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: So I had three infections, so I know what it's

921
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: like and to come back off injurying what I did,

922
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: and he was in an average twenty one and seven.

923
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: That was spectacling me because I'll say, all the work

924
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: I put in is paying off. But my mindset is

925
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: when I stepped between these four lines, whatever injury I had,

926
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 3: I don't think about it. But if you think about

927
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: it a lot, you're never gonna get back to yourself

928
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: and you end up re injuring yourself.

929
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: You're trying to compensate.

930
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, that fucked me up.

931
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: It's tough, though.

932
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: And I went to Chicago and got my surgery. Everything

933
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: was fine, flew to Saint Louis and seen my family

934
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: and then I flew back to Portland like a couple

935
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: of days later. And when I got to Portland, I

936
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: just had a fever. So I'm like Damn, I feeling sick.

937
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: So I went to the doctor. Come to find out

938
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: I got an infection in my knee. We gotta go

939
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: right back to surgeon. I just had surgery like four

940
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: or five days ago.

941
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: What time you flew in like a week? I mean

942
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: time you flew in two weeks after surgery like three times?

943
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: I actually only for once, Like I had the surgery

944
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: in Chicago, I caught a limo down to Saint Louis.

945
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: And then when I was in Saint Louis, I was

946
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: feeling the fever now down there. And when I got

947
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: to Portland, went to see the doctor and the doctor

948
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: was like, yeah.

949
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 2: You gotta a back another four six weeks.

950
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, now your time table might have been four months

951
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: now it's six to eight months.

952
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Go right back up in there and get that cleaned out.

953
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Just crazy, man, with these like these and they don't

954
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: really and with the technology now this days, it's so

955
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: much better.

956
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: Through's so there's so.

957
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: Much training, all type of stuff.

958
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: Yea, they know how to protect your body a little

959
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: bit more than they used to with us. So that's

960
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: why I tipped my head off to like even you

961
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: when you came back and.

962
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 6: Thought, because I know, it takes a lot.

963
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Mentally and physically to come back and play at that

964
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: high level, you know what I'm saying. And sometimes you

965
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: don't be the same person that you be, but your

966
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: IQ is there.

967
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you might not have the same half,

968
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: let us in the same speed, but like, can you

969
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: still run the game? Like that's for me, that's where

970
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 3: my my IQ coming That's where my point guard skills

971
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: come in.

972
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: Where I can still.

973
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Push the pace and I don't have to go get

974
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: twenty and ten every night, but I can get open

975
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: shots for my teammates by pushing the pace, by running

976
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: and pick and roll and finding the right guys. So,

977
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: like you said, it's a mind game though, like you

978
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: got to be mentally strong for.

979
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: It, and it get tough at tims.

980
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 5: Tell me this, right, because this is the part of

981
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: it that a lot of people, some even some young

982
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: NBA players, the younger ones more so you in Houston.

983
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: You've done everything you've done and then you, you know

984
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, you who you are. You've established and

985
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: accomplished what you accomplished, and now you had to battle

986
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 5: back from injury, like you said, you came back.

987
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: You have a twenty one and seven.

988
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 5: How difficult is it to listen to an organization or

989
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 5: a team say that's cool, but we want to develop

990
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: this young guy and we want to go different direction.

991
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: When you sitting here and you know the game, and

992
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: this is part of the whole, This is the business

993
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: of it. This is this is when you, like, if

994
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 5: you hadn't already learned, but this is when the business

995
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 5: of the whole thing rears is ugly here how tough

996
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 5: and difficult is it to deal with when your whole

997
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: life you've been in a position.

998
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: Where I eat what I kill.

999
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 5: If I go out here and I earn this, I

1000
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: get this, and this is a time where it's like

1001
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 5: this don't matter.

1002
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: You don't eat what you kill.

1003
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: I think, and.

1004
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 5: These are the politics of like how hard talk about how?

1005
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: And this is from like we can speak from it

1006
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: from our level, but you can speak from it from

1007
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 5: an All NBA Max player all start.

1008
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: I think, I think that's something that like if I

1009
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: go back and do it again, I would do it

1010
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: a different way. But at that time, like you said,

1011
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm too competitive, I'm a dog, Like I know, like

1012
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: if you're telling me, but they told me, like we

1013
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: know you can win this spot. We're gonna have this

1014
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: spot that we play you, but we don't want to

1015
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: go that route. And I'm like, damn why, Like we

1016
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: just we had an okay last it wasn't bad. But

1017
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: that's what like my maturity come in there, Like I

1018
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: can accept that and know like whatever role I'm is

1019
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: going to, I can accept that. But at that time,

1020
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: you can't tell me going into a training camp, I'm anaign,

1021
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: y'all two up and.

1022
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Y'all could be.

1023
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna out be everybody unless you

1024
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: got like an all EVA player in front of me.

1025
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: That's that guy. I feel like I could win that spot.

1026
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: So that was difficult to deal with, especially coming after

1027
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: coming off injury, then having a good year, your first

1028
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: year back and they don't really want you to play

1029
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: and all I want to do is play.

1030
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: I just missed two years.

1031
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: So it was difficult, but that's something I matured in learning,

1032
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: like from my mistakes have been in that position. I

1033
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: know they're handling them, but at that moment, at that time,

1034
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: nah didn't.

1035
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: I felt like even in dealing with it the way

1036
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 5: you did, like you maybe you say like you know

1037
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 5: better than me. Maybe you didn't handle it perfectly, but

1038
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: I still feel like you handled it better than a

1039
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 5: lot of people would in your position because you didn't.

1040
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: You went quietly, whether.

1041
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: It was you know what I'm saying to the public,

1042
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: it didn't come out like, oh he tripping like you

1043
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: you sat, you was on the bench, was in you

1044
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, You're supporting your teammates and stuff.

1045
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: So it was like I got to at that point,

1046
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: I was like, my job is to mentor them now,

1047
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like beat the events like Gil

1048
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: and Kurt horrall was to me, be that to them,

1049
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: and they all was asking me question like bro, how

1050
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: I do this?

1051
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: How I do that?

1052
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: I'm telling them through the game. They coming to me

1053
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: on the sideline like I got a clipboard like what

1054
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 3: I should do right here? Like what past you see

1055
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: like and they're begging them to play me, like they

1056
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: wanted to play with me because we were scrimmaging practice

1057
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: of play one on one, two and two, and they're like,

1058
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: he can help us, like we can win. And those

1059
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: young guys wanted to win, but they had to go

1060
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: through that process that I went through with having a VET.

1061
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: But you gotta let them do their jobs. It was difficult,

1062
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: but my job is I still talk to those young

1063
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: guys still to this day, and any other young guys

1064
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: like Bones, he come in, he asked me questions like

1065
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: I just love the nature of the game too. They

1066
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: got a lot of game, and he's in a tough

1067
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 3: spot where he's not playing, like but when he played,

1068
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: he shows what he's got. So I just try to

1069
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: get back every game, suck up all the game I

1070
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: got and give it to the young guy no matter what. Like,

1071
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna be a guy that hate on them

1072
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: because it's they turn, you know what I mean, Like

1073
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: we can't control what's going on. Like y'all had y'all era,

1074
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: We got our era and shit changing like this. It

1075
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: might revert back later, but I'm always gonna soak the

1076
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: game and give it to the younger.

1077
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 6: You in this era is cool.

1078
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it be crazy out here in this era. Man,

1079
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: So you want to still play in the league. I

1080
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: know them Phoenix Sons could have used you just these

1081
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: playoffs and they needed a point guard. But you've been

1082
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: working out and so forth on. How is it to

1083
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: stay in shape? And you know what I'm saying, while

1084
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: the season is going to make sure you get that call.

1085
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: If you get that call, you just to be ready.

1086
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: Well, if you still want to play, you got. It's

1087
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: definitely difficult, but uh, I just put my mind set

1088
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: to like I still love the game, and then I

1089
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: still want to work. I mean like I still love

1090
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: putting the work in, and to today I feel like

1091
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to put the work in. That's when

1092
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: I give it up. But I know I can. I

1093
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: think I think the league missing a lot of vets

1094
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: that can use a lot of vets to help a

1095
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: lot of young guys out. And now I said it

1096
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: recently like I'm cool with any role. I'm cool to

1097
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: separate any row. I know I can help a team win.

1098
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: I know I can help a team play. But in

1099
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: my roles are coming to be down as has and rolled,

1100
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: or just be a great vet and talk to the

1101
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: young guys and teach them.

1102
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.

1103
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: I just know I feel like I still got an opportunity.

1104
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: But if my name or number is called, they know

1105
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: what they get.

1106
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: I showed one of my clippers to keep you, bro,

1107
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: I was rooting for you.

1108
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: He talked, He talked heavy about that when yes man,

1109
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 5: I wanted my clip was to keep I'm gonna go

1110
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 5: out on a limb. Though, I think in the near future,

1111
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 5: if I had to bet, it probably will be like

1112
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 5: a Miami or Spurs the spearheaded. But I think it's

1113
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: gonna be a position created for like the vet role,

1114
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 5: because nobody is gonna want to do you know, I

1115
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 5: mean obviously not gonna wanna. Nobody wants to do what

1116
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: Miami did with U D and every team I feel like,

1117
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 5: I feel like, as young as the NBA is, I

1118
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 5: feel like every team needs a designated O G type

1119
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 5: to be able to to like to like spread some

1120
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 5: some some knowledge to these young fellas and like play.

1121
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 5: Teams don't want to use a roster spot clearly because

1122
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: UD was like the last of a dying breed. So

1123
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 5: I feel like it might be Miami to spearheaded and

1124
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: make that actually a position at some point. But I

1125
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 5: feel like in the near future, team's gonna have a

1126
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: position for like mentor or you know what I'm saying,

1127
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 5: like an OG type situation where that's a spot like

1128
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 5: as far as like player development, you know what I'm saying.

1129
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 4: Whatever, I think that's gonna.

1130
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: Be a role.

1131
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 5: I think it should be, well, I think it should

1132
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: be for that guy who's transitioning, who's earned the trust

1133
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 5: of the organization and league by character and by the

1134
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 5: way he go about his business, to be that standard

1135
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 5: as the example for whoever those young guys come to

1136
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 5: the league is young, young, young, young, young.

1137
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: OGS is twenty four and twenty five.

1138
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: Now you come in at twenty and nineteen and your

1139
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: big homebit ain't but five years.

1140
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: Older than you, and he ain't really really.

1141
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: A real VET, but he'd a VET to you because

1142
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 5: he been here longer than you. So it's like, I

1143
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: really feel like that's gonna that is gonna come and

1144
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 5: it should come into effect at some point for sure.

1145
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: If you had four other teammates that that you played

1146
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: with in the league that you can build your ultimate

1147
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: team with, who would.

1148
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 6: Be the other four?

1149
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: All my teammates playing with?

1150
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, all the teams teammates you play with.

1151
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: If you had to build up up four more and

1152
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: plus U ultimate, what would that ultimate team look like?

1153
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Are they healthy? Like healthy?

1154
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: Healthy?

1155
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: It's the best version of White at center. When we

1156
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: was in DC. Gotta go KAWHD and PG, I gotta

1157
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: go Brad MM.

1158
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: Hmm, tell me this right, this is what I like

1159
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: to know. I don't know if you did it on

1160
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 5: the eighty. I don't know if you did it on

1161
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: your rookie deal on the one seventy. But one of

1162
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 5: the motherfuckers you got ignorant. I want to hear about

1163
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: when you got ignorant and spent that bag and did

1164
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 5: some wid the wildest, craziest ship John Wall did with

1165
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 5: the bag.

1166
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 4: This is all I got too.

1167
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: We got two ladies two years two for the price

1168
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 5: of one.

1169
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: Two years straight. I could be flying from here to Philly.

1170
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I ain't going to the airport. I

1171
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: need the PJ. I don't feel like going in first class.

1172
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck if I'm going from Cleveland, Milwaukee, Chicago.

1173
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: You private and I'm in Miami.

1174
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: And I meant, like the Roseworth Dealership right, and they

1175
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: got this Rosewroy's limo you ain't bound rose was So

1176
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I'm gonna take my kids in school

1177
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: and ship one day.

1178
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: So I bought it.

1179
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: So hold up, bro.

1180
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: I took a bit in La the last allar I

1181
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 3: came out in twenty eighteen, and I was just gonna

1182
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: ride around there. It was so much shit you had

1183
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: to do to fix it. So luckily I got lucky

1184
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: and so then got all my money. But I didn't

1185
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: lose nothing on it. But I bought it. Like I'm

1186
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: gonna take my kids to school.

1187
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: In this one day.

1188
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: You just wait time out. Fuck the school. You just

1189
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: said you shipped it to LA for all Star.

1190
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: They was gonna fix it. That Platinum Motorsports, they was

1191
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: gonna fix it up for me.

1192
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: So right, but so like you actually shipped it.

1193
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: To LA to get it fixed and they said it

1194
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: was fixed, And I was like, man, I'm about to

1195
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: cruise out to the stables center this tonight.

1196
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's some dumb ass ship right there.

1197
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: Start start bench trade. You got start one. You got

1198
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: bench one, you got trade one. Steph Kyrie Dane Lillard

1199
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: Ah start trade.

1200
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Damn all right, I gotta start Kyrie bench stea have trade.

1201
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: Dame Kyrie is like outside of d Rose, Kyrie the

1202
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: hardest person that had a guard bro Like he has

1203
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 3: every shot in the book and he and.

1204
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: He makes shots like he's six six sixty seven.

1205
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: Name something he can't do in the court, that's real, Listen,

1206
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: it's just up to him if you're missing. Yeah, left hand,

1207
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: floida right and floida post ups, catch and shoot three

1208
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 3: all the dribble three best handed.

1209
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 5: I've never seen somebody as small, all of him finished

1210
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 5: as well as him without his God is without dunking

1211
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: on people.

1212
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: No is Godfather that Rod.

1213
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 5: I mean obviously, but I'm still saying, like rid he

1214
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 5: right up.

1215
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: God is different though special, That's.

1216
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

1217
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 6: I got I got one more for you.

1218
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, CP three.

1219
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: Who would you start?

1220
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: Who had you been string? Jason Kidd? Yeah, Benching, Gary Payton,

1221
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: tradon CP you.

1222
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: The only nine champion your John Wall Foundation. We've seen

1223
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 5: I'll followed you for a long time, seeing you do

1224
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 5: turkey drives, camps, giveaways, backpacks, back to schools, all types

1225
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 5: of different things like clearly we get that from where

1226
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 5: we come from and things like that.

1227
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 4: But what was instilled in you and what drives you.

1228
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 5: To really reach out and reach back and give give

1229
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 5: back to the youth in the community and the less fortunate,

1230
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 5: The way you do really in the community and feats

1231
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 5: on the ground and being involved yourself personally, which.

1232
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: It all goes back to my mom. I mean, like

1233
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: before I made it to the NBA.

1234
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: Even when I made it to the NBA, she still

1235
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: was going to feed the homeless at the Salvation Army,

1236
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: cooking for them, like cooking turkey drives or just donating clothes,

1237
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: just doing anything. And then like AU tournament, she's still

1238
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: work the front desk. Hey you turnament like her son,

1239
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: she don't have to work no more. She's still like, Noah,

1240
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: this is what I want to do. I want to volunteer,

1241
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: Like even on toy drives that we do Christmas and

1242
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: give out bikes and stuff. She's always out there, rain,

1243
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: sleep snow, she was out there and just seeing her

1244
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: put that work in and knowing that's how I want

1245
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: to be. And like I started my foundation twenty eleven.

1246
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: This is my thirteen John Wall Family Foundation. We kidd

1247
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: I'm about to have this year August eighth and North Carolina.

1248
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: But man, just knowing where these kids come from, like

1249
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: they don't have an opportunity like I want to help,

1250
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: like single parent homes, kids that don't have an opportunity

1251
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: to get nowhere, to understand that no matter where you

1252
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: come from, you get a chance if you put your

1253
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: work towards first most important thing is education. I mean

1254
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: a second thing is listen to your parents. After that,

1255
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: whatever you want to do, give it, y'all. Don't have

1256
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: fast into it. But I always tell people that get

1257
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 3: they have camps and they be like, all right, your

1258
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: chemps start at ten, it's over at two.

1259
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: What time you want to get there? Be there nine

1260
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 2: to fifty, right, Like the kids.

1261
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: Want to see you make them feel like you're a

1262
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: normal person, just like they are.

1263
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: Because you are.

1264
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, me being no matter what

1265
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: our name it is, no matter how much money you are,

1266
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 3: we still go through the same problems everybody else go through.

1267
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: So if I supposed to be there from ten and two,

1268
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm there from ten and two. I'm not gonna show

1269
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: up at twelve thirty one o'clock. If I committed to it,

1270
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 3: I'm fully their. That's why I think I love it.

1271
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: And I think that's why the kids and the fans

1272
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: adapt to you a lot more because you're.

1273
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: Interacted with them.

1274
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1275
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to feel like they want to feel

1276
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: like they're you bro. They want to feel like they

1277
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: got a chance.

1278
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1279
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 5: Now, I say all the time, like because a lot

1280
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 5: of people think because we make the NBA like you

1281
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 5: become some alien or something like you really like bro,

1282
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: same problems y'all got. We got family to get sick,

1283
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 5: We got family to need or have problems. We put

1284
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 5: on our pants one leg at a time like everybody else.

1285
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 5: Ain't nothing different. But you watching us on TV play basketball.

1286
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 5: When we walk off that court, Bro, we exactly like you.

1287
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: The only difference between us and you is that we

1288
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 5: was on TV.

1289
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1290
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: But like a lot of people think money solve a problem,

1291
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 3: to give you more problems and you end up losing.

1292
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes you end up losing the people close to you

1293
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: cousin money.

1294
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: They get entitled.

1295
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Back in February, you started point game. You know you're

1296
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: in the podcast where.

1297
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: We Gonna be guessed When I love I.

1298
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: Love when you know some of our favorite players started,

1299
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: Like I was really interesting and you started because you

1300
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: barely get a chance to hear any of us talk

1301
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: or you know, listen to our IQ and stuff. But

1302
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I was really excited for yours that you one of

1303
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: my favorite players. How was it starting the podcast and

1304
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: how you feel about it now?

1305
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 6: Just getting your feet with it?

1306
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: It was dope.

1307
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 3: But I watched all podcasts and I mean, just to

1308
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 3: get more comfortable at first. You know, you're a little nervous,

1309
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: you don't know, you say the wrong thing. Can you

1310
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: really be yourself? And I just believe I'm being authentic.

1311
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: Always be yourself no matter what. Ain't know. Like you

1312
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: said earlier, politics and certain nature of the game, you

1313
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: gotta shade yourself to be something else and get bo.

1314
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: I just don't want to ever have to do that

1315
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: to fit in.

1316
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: But I love it, bro, Like I came to wait

1317
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: to continue to do it, be on more podcasts.

1318
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: It's dope. It's fun.

1319
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: You get to be in a space where a lot

1320
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: of people be trying to pick your brain. I'm like,

1321
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 3: I can teach you some shit about basketball you don't know. Yeah,

1322
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: And that's all I do is watch basketball all there

1323
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: be and my kids watch action movies.

1324
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: Bro, I think that was the best thing for us, Like,

1325
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: like we had no clue what we was getting into

1326
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: and when we did this, but it was the point

1327
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 5: that we get the most satisfaction of like when it's

1328
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 5: people like you, like we had KG on and it

1329
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 5: was like to hear people say that we made them

1330
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: feel comfortable doing it however, because they saw us like

1331
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 5: we didn't come into it with no playbook or were

1332
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 5: just like, we're gonna be us. You know what I'm saying.

1333
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: We're not gonna hate on nobody, and we're gonna be

1334
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 5: us and who we are. We watched all the time,

1335
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 5: we in it, We know what's going on, and when

1336
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 5: we come out here, we just, like you said, be

1337
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 5: authentically us. And to hear different players who whether they

1338
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 5: were achieved more than we did or not, to know

1339
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 5: that they saw what we did and looked at us like, man,

1340
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: y'all made me feel like we could do this shit

1341
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 5: our way, Like y'all just be keeping it real like

1342
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: whatever it is. Just like that was dope for us

1343
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 5: to hear that, Like damn like us getting out here

1344
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 5: and kicking it out and just doing it like we.

1345
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: Not the ex All Stars or whatever, but like.

1346
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 5: We somebody that's been in this since two thousand, been

1347
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 5: knowing what's going on, and we know the who's or

1348
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 5: who and we got stories and stuff like that. And

1349
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: when we was able to bring it the way we

1350
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 5: bring it, to hear other people say that they saw

1351
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 5: that and was inspired and felt like they could do

1352
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 5: their thing their own way. Like to me, that was

1353
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 5: enough for me right there to make it feel dope,

1354
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 5: but like we kids in the Kenny Store, like sitting

1355
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 5: here hollering at you like I can remember your first mixtape,

1356
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, like before you even

1357
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 5: got to Kentucky anything, And like to be able to

1358
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: sit down and chop it up with dudes, Cause we

1359
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: fans no matter what, and I don't care how long.

1360
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 4: We played, what we did, what we may.

1361
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 5: We always fans of this and to be able to

1362
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 5: sit down with the best of the best, that's what

1363
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 5: we live for. To be able holler at y'all, chop

1364
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 5: it up and then bring the content to the people

1365
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 5: like this is this is all fun?

1366
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 4: We win every time.

1367
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's always a good feeling to you know,

1368
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: do a good interview for our peers and they family

1369
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Be Like, man, I love man y'all did

1370
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: an interview with my brother or my cousin stuff, and

1371
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: man it was great, just a good positive interview because

1372
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: there's so much just other stuff out there that you

1373
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: that people talk about.

1374
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 5: All right, man, that's it live on location from New

1375
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 5: York City. Man, we finally got it done with the

1376
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 5: Kentucky slash North Caroest line of slash d legend mister

1377
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 5: John Wall in the bill theme. Next time y'all see,

1378
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 5: all three of us were gonna be on his show,

1379
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 5: So y'all tune in and tap into that shake the

1380
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 5: homie for pulling

1381
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:20,240
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