1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: The news round up and information Overload hour. Here's our 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: toll free telephone number if you want to be a 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: part of the program today, it's eight hundred nine four 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: one Sewan if you want to join us now on 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill today. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is just 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: an absolute rock star and gave incredible testimony today, at 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: times explosive only because they can't handle the truth. And anyway, 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: it went very very well for the Secretary. From my perspective, 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: I want to play a couple of exchanges. We'll get 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: some comments and observations from Mike Lee, who's on the committee. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Here is in the setup lead up to the questioning 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marco Rubio talking about Venezuela being a 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: base of operations for virtually every competitor, adversary enemy in 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the entire world, citing Iran in Russia and China's examples. 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Let me just say this, what is our goal going in? 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: We had in our hemisphere a regime operated by an 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: indicted Narco trafficker that became a base of operation for 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: virtually every competitor, adversary and enemy in the world. It 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: was for Iran, their primary spot of operation in the 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Western Hemisphere was Venezuela. For Russia, their primary base of 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: operation in the Western Hemisphere, along Cuba and Nicaragua, was Venezuela. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: In the case of China, China was receiving oil at 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: a huge buck twenty dollars a barrel discount, and it 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: was they weren't even paying money for it. It was 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: being used to pay down debt that they were owed. 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: This is the oil of the people of Venezuela, and 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: it was being given to the Chinese as barter at 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: a twenty percent at a twenty dollars discount for baro 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: in some cases. 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: And so you had basically three of our. 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: Primary opponents in the world operating from our hemisphere. 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: From that spot. 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: It was also a place where you had a narco 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: trafficking regime that openly cooperated with the FARC and the 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: ELN and other drag dug trafficking organizations using their national territory. 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: It was an enormous. 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: Strategic risk for the United States, not halfway around the world, 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: not in another continent, but in the hemisphere in which 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: we all live, and it was having dramatic impacts on us, 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: but also on Columbia and on the Caribbean basin and 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: all sorts of other places. It was an untenable situation 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: and it had. 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: To be addressed. 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: And it was addressed, and now the question becomes what 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: happens moving forward. As I've described to you in previous 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: settings and individual conversations, we had three objectives here. The 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: final I'll work it backwards because the end state here 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: is we want to reach a phase of transition where 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 3: we are left with a friendly, stable, prosperous Venezuela. 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: And the Secretary of State went on about Maduro and 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: you couldn't make a deal with this guy. He wanted 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: to tap us along and by three years time until 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: he could deal with the new administration, which by the way, 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: we all know is true. Here's what he said. 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: We made multiple attempts to get Maduro to leave voluntarily 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: and to avoid all of this, because we understood that 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: he was an impediment to progress. You couldn't make a 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: deal with this guy. 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: Guy's made multiple deals. He's broken every one of them. 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: As a point of example, he made a deal with 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: the Biden administration. And here was the deal that he made. 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: It was a bad deal. We knew he wouldn't keep it. 64 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: He made the following deal. Pardon my nephews, his nephews 65 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: who are convicted narco traffickers, convicted already in serving time 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: in jail. 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: Pardon them. 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: Pardon and release Alex sab who was this moneyman, his bagman, 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: primarily in charge of the portfolio with. 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: Iran, released these people. 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: He in turn agreed to release some political prisoners, which 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: he did, many of them were subsequently exiled or re arrested, 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 3: and that he would hold free and fair elections, which 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: he did not. In fact, he basically disqualified Maria Karina 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: Machado and any other candidate, and at Mundo Gonzalez ends 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: up being the nominee for the opposition party simply because 77 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: they forgot to ban him, and they forgot to put. 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: Him on the ban list. 79 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: And despite that, he loses an election that everyone around 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: the world recognizes in a legitimate election. So he's made 81 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: previous deals. In fact, he's broken so many deals. Not 82 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: even the Vatican has been willing to interact with Maduro 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: in the past because he's broken so many of these deals. 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: He's just simply not a guy you can make a 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: deal with. 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: You had no intent of keeping it. 87 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: What he wanted to do was tap us along and 88 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: buy three years of time until he could deal with 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: a new administration that he thought may be more favorable, etc. 90 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: All right, joining us now, Senator Mike Lee of Utah, 91 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Part of 92 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: today's hearing where the Secretary of State was exchanging Barbes 93 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: with this woke radical left in the Democratic Party. First 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: of all, I thought that the Secretary of State was spectacular. 95 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: You know, the idea of what Senator Kuons is arguing 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: there is basically that we should have five hundred and 97 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: thirty five commanders in chief and that under Article two 98 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Powers in the Constitution, that the president doesn't have the 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: authority to do so. However, historical precedence contradicts that, because 100 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: we've had this happen over one hundred and thirty times, 101 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: and when Democratic presidents do it, you never hear a 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: peep out of the likes of Chris Kuons or any 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: other Democratic senator. 104 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fair point. And in addition to that, 105 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: seewan one glaring omission in those comments is the fact 106 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: that this was a law enforcement mission. This was a 107 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: mission involving the protection of FBI agents executing a validly 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 4: issued arrest warrant for a criminal defendant overseas. So the 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: military personnel we're there not to engage in war, rather 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: to protect the law enforcement agents who were there to 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: execute the search warrant. That is not war and therefore 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: doesn't require a declaration of war, and I think they're 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: missing that entirely in those comments. 114 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, there's one other thing that you know. First of all, 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: we have precedents. Manuel Noriego for example, comes to mind. 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: But more importantly, if the President has to consult with 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: Congress and the Senate on issues of national importance or 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: law enforce horsemen issues, or if the nation is under 119 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: threat and doesn't have this ability to do what the 120 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: President did here, which was a legal extraction, then there's 121 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: no way that we would ever be able to accomplish 122 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: anything with the US military with the high level of 123 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: secrecy that we need. 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: Now. 125 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: The Secretary of State mentioned about this contractor leaking, and 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: my understanding is that there are two specific press outlets 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: that were fully aware that this was going to go down, 128 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and they were appealed to directly for national security reasons 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: to stand down in their reporting or they would put 130 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: military lives in jeopardy and remove the element of surprise. 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: I think they did the right thing by doing so. 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: Probably didn't want to take on the wrath of Donald 133 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Trump either on the other side of it. But with 134 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: that said, we do need operational security, and we knew 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: need secrecy for these operations to ever be successful and 136 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: not risk American lives. 137 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, operational security certainly is very important, and in many 138 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: instances there are things that presidents are allowed to do, 139 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 4: whether they're clandestine operations or whether they are actions taken 140 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: in order to thwart an actual or imminent attack on 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: the United States, it's military personnel or otherwise in those circumstances, 142 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: even if they might otherwise be warlike actions. In those circumstances, 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: presidents don't have to go to Congress for a declaration 144 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: of war. And any event, it's abundantly clear in this circumstance, 145 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 4: this was not an active war, and so he didn't 146 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: have an obligation to come to US at the outfit. 147 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: There is, moreover, no ongoing military activity on the ground 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: in Venezuela, making this even more distinct from a war. 149 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, because a lot of 150 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: democratic senators said, well, this might just give license to 151 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: China to take Taiwan. Tell tell everybody, and let me 152 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: backtrack a little bit. I think that the thing that's 153 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: really stood out in the hearing today is, remember a 154 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, Marco Rubio's family had to escape, you know, 155 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Communist Cuba. If anything, he has a deep, deep understanding 156 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: not just of Cuba, but of the entire region and 157 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: the tyranny that has oppressed people in the region, and 158 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: the you know, his knowledge was was so evident that 159 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: I thought he was running circles around these democrats and frankly, 160 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the ninety percent of questions they were asking were just 161 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: plain dumb. 162 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I thought he did a masterful job. I've 163 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: known Marco for a long time, for the better part 164 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: of sixteen years. He and I both landed for the 165 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: US Senate at the same time for the first time 166 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: in twenty ten, and until about a year ago, serve 167 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: together as colleagues. He's always been on his a game, 168 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: but he was especially so today, and I thought he 169 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: handled him well. And as you point out, I think 170 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: he was doing circles around them. They were trying to 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: score cheap political points by making unsubstantiated attacks against him, 172 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: and in each instance he handled it diplomatically, but also 173 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: forcefully and directly by reputing their spurious claims that they 174 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: were making against him and against President Trump. 175 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Well, I think so. Now The question is will this 176 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: now make its way through the courts? Do you think 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: there's an argument that the left is making that has 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: any validity that the courts would ever take away the 179 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: authority and powers granted to a president as commander in chief. 180 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: No. 181 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: First of all, they show no indication of wanting to 182 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 4: pursue anything in court. Secondly, one of the reasons why 183 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: they showed no indication of planning that is that they 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: know it would not be successful, in addition to the 185 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: fact that on the merits they would lose if the 186 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: court ever reached the merits of the question, because this 187 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: was a law enforcement operation, not a war, and therefore 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: within the president's power as the chief executive officer of 189 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: the United States to direct this law enforcement activity and 190 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: to direct the US military to accompany the law enforcement 191 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: personnel on that mission. But in addition to that, the 192 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: courts have rather consistently refused to settle disputes between the 193 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: ambiguous lines on the one hand, the Congress's power to 194 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: declare war. On the other hand, did president's power under 195 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: Article two of the Constitution as commander in chief. There 196 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 4: is some gray area in there because of the overlap, 197 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: and the courts have been both what's known as the 198 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: non justicial political question doctrine and that circumstance, saying that 199 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: this is one of those things that's got to be 200 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: worked out between the two political branches of the US government, 201 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: namely the legislative branch, Congress and the presidency. 202 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: Quick break more with Senator Mike Lee, who is with us. 203 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: He sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee where Marco 204 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Rubio just crushed it today, and we'll have more of 205 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: his analysis on that. We'll get to your calls on 206 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: the other side, maybe play a little bit more of 207 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: the testimony and exchanges with the Secretary of State coming up. 208 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four one Seawan is our number 209 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: if you want to join us today. All right, we 210 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: continue Secretary of State Marco Rubio before the Senate Foreign 211 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Relations Committee today. Mike Lee sits on that committee. He 212 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: is with us now from Utah. What did you think 213 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: of the exchange between Senator Rubio and Senator ram Paul, 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: because you know, ram Paul was saying, would it be 215 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: an active war? If someone did it to us, and 216 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, nobody dies, few casualties, they're in and out, boom, 217 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: perfect military operation, would that be an active war? 218 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: Or? 219 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: I thought the Secretary of Day's answer is, you know what, 220 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: like the case you describe, which obviously does not exist 221 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: at this time. But as you described that, the US 222 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: always has the right to act in its national interest 223 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: and protect itself. So I don't really know about the 224 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: equivalency here. Where was Senator ram Paul going with that, 225 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: because it seems like he's against any and all military operation, 226 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: and I've had to use the term for him, I'd 227 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: call him an isolationist. 228 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I wasn't in there for the exchange between 229 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: Senator Paul and Secretary of Rubio. I had to run 230 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: over to a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on FISA section 231 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: seven oh two, which is an important conversation for a 232 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: different day. We were talking about some of the real 233 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: risks of the abuse of PISA section seven oh two, 234 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: but I missed that part. I can't speak to that exchange. 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: I'm not sure which direction he was taking, but Derek Ginshewan, 236 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: I would pivot back to the question was this a 237 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: war or was this a law enforcement action taken in 238 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: pursuit of executing a validly issued warrant for the arrest 239 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: of Nicholas Maduro. I believe it was the latter and 240 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: therefore solidly within the president's inherent power as the chief 241 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: executive officer and as commander in chief. 242 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I do think that the world is 243 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: going to be a better and safer place. Do you 244 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: believe in the end that Cuba can survive without Venezuela 245 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: and oil and especially with the blockade and Mexico can 246 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: sell their oil now to Cuba. 247 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: Well, Cuba itself will survive. The question is whether the 248 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: communist regime in charge of Cuba currently Cuba. 249 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's really what I was referencing. Do you think 250 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: they could survive? 251 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: I have affirmative doubts as to whether they can, and 252 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 4: if they can, how long that will last. I think 253 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: that's a huge, huge blow to the staying power of 254 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 4: the communist regime currently in charge in Cuba. Time will tell, 255 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: but I think the clock's kicking there, and I don't 256 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: think they've got long. 257 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: I don't think they've got long. I think the Iranian 258 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: regime is teetering on the brink. I think all of 259 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Latin America's has taken note of the actions of the 260 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: President in Venezuela, and I would expect that China and 261 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: Russia and Iran's influence will be negligible, if even existing 262 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: at all, by the time all is said and done. 263 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: And that's good for our national security in my humble opinion, 264 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: we appreciate your time, Senator Mike Lee, Thank you, sir. 265 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 266 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: Seun eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is her number. 267 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: When all right, let's go back Marco Rubio. I mean 268 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: he was, he was on his a game today. I 269 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: mean the level of knowledge that he has. And it's 270 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: not just on Latin America in this part of the world. 271 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was every area of the world is spectacular. 272 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: And he just dazzled today. He put on a show 273 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: and it was it was pretty remarkable. And here here's 274 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: one little short exchange with Senator Tim Kaine. Well, well, 275 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump called Greenland Iceland and then his answer is 276 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: to take a shot at Piden. It was great. 277 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: President repeatedly mistook Iceland for Greenland, right, We're not mad 278 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: at Iceland. 279 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: They haven't cost us any money. 280 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: The President just mistook the two countries for each other. 281 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, he meant to say Greenland. 282 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: But I think we're all familiar with the presidents to 283 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: have verbal stumbles. We've had presidents like that before. So 284 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: I made a lot more than this one. 285 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Then he had another exchange. Linda, I'm sure you were 286 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: watching this with Tammy Duckworth over Trump's use of the 287 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Alien Enemies Act and going to war with narco terrorists. 288 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, let them, let them, let them go unabated 289 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: and keep you know, selling drugs and killing Americans. Oh, 290 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: that's a great solution. This is a good exchange. Listen 291 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: to this. 292 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 5: Will you advise the President to rescind his invocation of 293 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 5: the wartime alien and of course not. 294 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean, these are people that are threats to the 295 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: national security of the United States. But I've described this 296 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: and hearings in the past, including. 297 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: They that we're at war. 298 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: We are absolutely when it comes to narco trafficking groups 299 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: and criminal gangs that are targeting the United States for 300 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: criminal in a state of war. There's no doubt about 301 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: the fact that we're confronting them. 302 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: In a war like and do they geneva convert. 303 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: They're waging war against us and their enemy combatants as 304 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: a result of it. And the fact of the matter 305 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: is that we are confronting these irregular groups. 306 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: And that's one of the. 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: Great challenges of the new century in this hemisphere in particular, 308 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: is that these non state actors who possess statelike capabilities 309 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: in terms of their weaponry, pose a grave danger to 310 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: the United States. I don't think any American whether we 311 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: have cartels that pose a threat. 312 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: With all the other laws of when it comes to warfare. 313 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 5: I mean you're you're you're saying that he can invoke 314 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: this wartime power. 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, you're asking me. 316 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: I'm here to discuss foreign policy and what's in the 317 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: realm of the Department of State. 318 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: I think your question is better Director of Enemies act. 319 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 5: But I would tell you a wartime which is something 320 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 5: that you're asking more, can be invoked during war. You're 321 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: asking voked during the War of eighteen twelve, World War One, 322 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 5: and World War Two. You're asked vo three times, and 323 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 5: this president is invoking it. 324 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you're asking me a question about the domestic application 325 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: of the law that's best directed the Department of Visition, 326 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: because you're asking me something to apply on something that's 327 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: in the realm of the Department of Justice. In terms 328 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: of its domestic application, I can tell you that the 329 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: United States is most certainly confronting terrorists and criminal organizations 330 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: operating in our hemisphere to pose a grave danger of 331 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: the United States. Anyone who believes that gangs that flood 332 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: our country with fan or cocaine are not threats to 333 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: the United States is not living in reality and certainly 334 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: does not reflect the opinion of most Americans. 335 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: And then Marco, I mean, look, there is this isolation 336 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: as wing. I am not part of it within Republican circles, 337 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: but I consider myself more of a Trump doctor and guy. 338 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: And then there are people like Ram Paul. Is Marco 339 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: debating Ram Paul. 340 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 6: So I would ask you if a foreign country bombed 341 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 6: our air defense missiles, captured and removed our president, and 342 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 6: blockaded our country, would that be considered an active war? 343 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think your question is about the and I 344 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: will acknowledge you been very consistent on all these points 345 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: the entire career. 346 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: So let me let me no matter who who's in charge. 347 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: So I will point to two things. 348 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: The first is it's hard for us to conceive that 349 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: an operation that lasted about four and a half hours 350 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: and was a law enforcement operation to capture someone we 351 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: don't recognize as a head of state indicted in the 352 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: United States. 353 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: One thing with a fifty million dollars. 354 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 6: Bout would be if it only took four hours to 355 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 6: take our president very short, nobody dies on the other side, 356 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 6: nobody dies on our side, it's perfect. Would it be 357 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 6: an active war? 358 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: We just don't believe that this operation comes anywhere close 359 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: to the constitutional definition. 360 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Of You can't have five hundred and thirty five commanders 361 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: in chief. You elect one commander in chief at a time. 362 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: It is incredible, Linda, if you look at a politician 363 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: and their growth projectory, I mean it is a vertical 364 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: line straight up. For for Secretary of State Rubio, I mean, 365 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: he's a star, there's no question. I mean, this guy 366 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: get impressed often, but I was impressed today. 367 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 7: Let me tell you something. You know what the fun 368 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 7: thing is about, Rubio? 369 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: You tell me something, I'm going to tell you. That's 370 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: what I'm here telling me. 371 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 7: This guy, that's this guy right here, He's the kind 372 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 7: of guy that you want with you in a fight. 373 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 7: He's the guy you want in the foxhole. He's very calm. 374 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 7: He's telling you in the most polite way, how dumb 375 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 7: you are, how blessed you are that he's even given 376 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 7: you a moment of his time. It is embarrassing most 377 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 7: of the time at these committee hearings some of the 378 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 7: questions that we get from the left and even from 379 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 7: some of the rhinos. But it is incredible how gracefully 380 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 7: he handles it with facts, with information, and it was 381 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 7: just fantastic. And he's and he's just like he's ready 382 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 7: to go. And he used to serve on this committee, 383 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 7: so he knows all these guys. He knows what they're 384 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 7: gonna do. 385 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he really is just a man. 386 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: You know how many people were either texting me, calling me, 387 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: reaching out to me, Oh there's our next president. Did 388 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: you get the same response? Absolutely? 389 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 7: I mean before President Trump got in the race in 390 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 7: twenty fifteen, I was a huge Carson and Marco Rubio fan. 391 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 7: And then I was like, oh Marco, and I was like, oh, 392 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 7: I'll work the phones, I'll do whatever we need to do. 393 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 7: And always a big fan of him since he's been 394 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 7: in Congress. You know, he's just a stalwart, you know, 395 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 7: and he he has so much in common with the 396 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 7: everyday guy. He's got a beautiful wife, a great family, 397 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 7: he's a great dad, he's got a great story. You know, 398 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 7: there's a lot about him to love. And I think 399 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 7: today just was one. 400 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: More reason thought it was phenomenal today. And I don't 401 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: get him pressed very often. All right, let's get to 402 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: our busy telephones. A lot of people standing by h 403 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: All right, John in Florida, John number two, what's up, 404 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: John number two? You're on the Sean Hannity Show. 405 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 8: Hello, Sean, how are you doing? 406 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm good? How you doing? Where from New York? Did 407 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: you come to Florida? 408 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 8: Brooklyn? 409 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: So listen, I can't tell at all. It was just 410 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: a lucky guess, really lucky on my part. I'm kidding. 411 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: On's on your mind? 412 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 8: Okay, this whole thing, the left is never going to 413 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 8: comply with Trump's wishes are getting these migrants, these dangerous 414 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 8: guys out of their states. These sanctuary cities have to 415 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 8: be responsible for all the rhetoric and the bad stuff 416 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 8: that they've been saying. They Trump should tell them, you 417 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 8: want the problem, you got it? No more federal funding 418 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 8: for this. We'll give you the list of people. You 419 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 8: take them out yourself. If you don't take them out yourself, 420 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 8: you've got to deal with a solid majority of people. 421 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 8: Tell the people with a contingency that you want these 422 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 8: people to stay. You got to tell your powers to 423 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 8: be I want these people to extract these people out 424 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 8: of state. If they don't do it, then they got 425 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 8: to be responsible for their actions. You can't keep going 426 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 8: on this our Asian for getting beat up. First, that 427 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 8: run over and it's too much. You had to back up. 428 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 8: You've gotta have to have a work around. And the 429 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 8: workaround is let them have their own problem with sanctuary cities. 430 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 8: Let them have the problem, let them get them at themselves. 431 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: The problem is they don't stay in their sanctuary cities. 432 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: The problem is they're killing innocent Americans and sanctuary cities. 433 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: And you know there are other people that don't agree 434 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: with sanctuary city status. I'm not willing to concede that. Okay, Well, 435 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: if you're illegal, we'll ignore you and you get to 436 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, murder and rape and kill and deal drugs 437 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: and get away with all of it because you're protected 438 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: by government officials that don't abide by our constitution, the 439 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: supremacy clause and the role of law. I'm not willing 440 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: to accept that. Do I think that there's room for improvement. 441 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: Of course, there's always room for improvement, But nobody has 442 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: ever I don't think any other show has actually giving 443 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: you an extensive, exhaustive list of examples one after another, 444 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: and scrolled their names and showed their pictures on TV 445 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: the way I have. And I'm only doing it because 446 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: it's a void that needs to be filled. These people 447 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: have put their lives on the line and they're saving 448 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: lives in the process. And the hope of you know, 449 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: Mayor of Small Fry and this idiot, you know, Tim Walls, 450 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: is they want they want the government to bow a 451 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: knee and just listen to what they want. And they 452 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: want to be able. You know, they don't when the 453 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: mayor said he's not going to turn over at thirteen 454 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty people and the state is threatening not 455 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: to cooperate with ice, they are aiding and abetting and 456 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: law breaking. Now we're now headed towards a confrontation of 457 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: their doing where the government's going to have to decide 458 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: whether they charge them and I'd rather not get to 459 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: that point, but they are. They're insightful rhetoric created this 460 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: mob mentality that is putting the lives of law enforcement 461 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: in jeopardy, and frankly, as far as I'm concerned, they 462 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: are contributing to the chaos and their blood on their hands. 463 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: I think that their reckless rhetoric is largely responsible for 464 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: a lot of what has happened, and they just doubled 465 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: down on it. I think they see political advantage in it. Anyway. 466 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: It's sad. Nine four one, Shawn is our number. If 467 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Back 468 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: to our busy telephones, South Carolina. Read it and next 469 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: Sean Hennity show what's up Rita. 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 9: Hey, Sean, thanks for taking the call. So just to 471 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 9: piggyback on that last call or the First Amendment, I 472 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 9: had to go back and look and make sure I 473 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 9: understood it properly give people the right to peacefully assemble. 474 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 9: That's not what we have here. The First Amendment doesn't 475 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 9: give them the right to do what they're doing going out. 476 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 9: They're causing chaos and obstructing law enforcement. Missing it. Please 477 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 9: correct me, but I'm not saying anybody being held to account, 478 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 9: to get them off the street, arrest them, lock them up. 479 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 9: They are breaking the law at at the very least, 480 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 9: they're obstructing law enforcement. Why are they not getting locked up? 481 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Just think about this, And I have been making this 482 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: point for years, Lindsey Graham said last night on my 483 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: TV show, from your great state of South Carolina is 484 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: now putting forth a bill that will once and for 485 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: all end sanctuary cities and states that you cannot you know, 486 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: you cannot institutionalize law breaking and take taxpayer dollars and 487 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: give it to people that don't belong in the country. 488 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: You can't protect illegal immigrants that are in your jails 489 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: and not turn them over to Ice. That is what 490 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: is happening in Minnesota, California and all these sanctuary cities 491 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: and states. They say it's not happening, but they're lying. 492 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: And mayor small five French Rice, you know, said the 493 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: truth out loud, and you know what it's putting on 494 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: citizens in jeopardy their lives. Americans are getting murdered. You 495 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: never hear any outrage from any Democrats. Look, I said 496 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: at the time, and then I'll let you have the 497 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: final word. I said at the time when President Trump 498 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: had his joined session speech a year ago, and he 499 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: recognized Lake and Riley's family in Jostly and Hungarya's family, 500 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: and these Democrats sat on their hands. That to me 501 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: was the moment that it was very evident they lost 502 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: any conscience, any heart, any soul that any normal human 503 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: being would have. You would stand for the families of 504 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: the mother of a twelve year old girl that was 505 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: brutally murdered and raped. You would stand for the family 506 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: the mother of a nursing student was out jogging and 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: brutally murdered. And they didn't because they didn't care. They 508 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: don't talk about the murders in Chicago, New York City, 509 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, any deep blue city state in this country 510 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: that happens every week. We don't know those people's names 511 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: because they can't weaponize those that those murders for political purposes. 512 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: It's disgusting. They are despicable people for what they do. 513 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that was vile what they did. I 514 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 9: couldn't even understand that. But what I'm talking about when 515 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 9: I'm saying arresting, I'm talking about those people who have 516 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 9: their boots on the ground, the ones that are going 517 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 9: out there and ultimately getting hurt because they're making law 518 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 9: enforcement have to be reactive to their motions, so they're 519 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 9: not peacefully assembling, they're not out there chance at all 520 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 9: and do whatever. So what they're doing is obstructing. So 521 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 9: why correct because local law enforcement has been instructed not 522 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 9: to help them or they don't want to help them, 523 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 9: get them off the streets, and that the very least 524 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 9: wouldn't be federal, So they get federal law enforcement in 525 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 9: there to scoop them up and put them in jail. 526 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: They've institutionalized the whole process. Understand, these are well funded, 527 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: well organized groups that are on their their encrypted signal 528 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: app and they're stalking ICE agents wherever they go for 529 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: the purpose of disruption and obstruction and creating confrontation. And 530 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: they're pouring gasoline on a fire. That's why all of 531 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: this is preventable. But they're being encouraged by their so 532 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: called leaders that aren't leaders at all, and it's the 533 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: whole thing I find repulsive. Appreciate the call. Thank you, Rita, 534 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: God bless you. Eight hundred and nine four one Shawn 535 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: on number having tonight nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. 536 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Police see your DVR, so you never ever, ever miss 537 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: an episode. We'll have the latest out of Minneapolis as 538 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: mayor of Smallfry and Timmy Walls now going back on 539 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: their word. Not a shock. We have reporters on the ground. 540 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: We'll look at the legal aspect of getting rid of 541 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: sanctuary states and cities, Greg Jared Clay, Travis, Orry Fleischer, 542 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Isabelle Brown, Dave Asman, Senator Rick Scott, and much more. 543 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: Set your DVR nine Eastern tonight for Hannity. We'll see 544 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: you then back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this 545 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: show possible.