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Speaker 2: has to has to get off the phone, uh and
Speaker 2: and take off on this flight. Newie, we haven't had
Speaker 2: a chance to talk about as a group, uh, the
Speaker 2: Cowboys and their padded practice against the l A Rams.
Speaker 2: You said when you were done off the call that
Speaker 2: you were gonna stand right next to three time Super
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton because you
Speaker 2: wanted to see what this thing looked like from a
Speaker 2: trench's perspective.
Speaker 3: What did you gather from your uh.
Speaker 2: Your practice eyes and the knowledge of Nate Newton?
Speaker 4: Give me some good nuie.
Speaker 5: There's trouble, guys, there's trouble there right now. Okay, haven't
Speaker 5: watched the practice there. They've got work to do. We
Speaker 5: talked to the oppensive line coach yesterday and he was honest.
Speaker 5: He said, you know, we have work to do in
Speaker 5: some of the things they're going to go do. Talk
Speaker 5: Saturday for the preseason game against the Rams is recognized.
Speaker 5: You know what the Rams were doing, how to get
Speaker 5: pad levels and execute better, so they know they were
Speaker 5: not good. And Shottenheimer talking about when you took the
Speaker 5: Cowboys out, we're gonna be a Wether football team. We've
Speaker 5: got to be physical. Well, they got out physical and
Speaker 5: they could not run the football. So that's something they've
Speaker 5: got to work on on Saturday, and it's their opportunity
Speaker 5: to look at the film and say, Okay, this is
Speaker 5: what we got through. I'm still worried about the fact
Speaker 5: that you're going to try to run out potentially two
Speaker 5: more rookies on your offensive line. You did it last
Speaker 5: year was the struggle. You got Booker over there at
Speaker 5: right guard and then you've got your left tackle. I
Speaker 5: asked about lel cause I said, well, well start at guard,
Speaker 5: and they said, yes, you're gonna start at right guard.
Speaker 5: That he they said, he wants to play left on
Speaker 5: the left side, but they're going to start him on
Speaker 5: the right. So, guys, between Ausome Richards being the backup
Speaker 5: and Thomas being the left tackles, this is it's gonna
Speaker 5: be interesting on Saturday night, guys. But the offensive and
Speaker 5: defensive line that's got to get better for this team.
Speaker 5: After watching that practice.
Speaker 2: De Montree is someone who's played a little on the
Speaker 2: defensive line. When you get into these type of practices
Speaker 2: and these type of games, you know, what is it
Speaker 2: that you're looking to accomplish from a defense perspective, trying
Speaker 2: to dominate the offensive line?
Speaker 6: Man, when you have these joint practices, you're just going
Speaker 6: out there just trying to dominate it. At this point,
Speaker 6: like schematics can be coached up, we can talk about
Speaker 6: all that, but you just want to go out there
Speaker 6: and just hit somebody lay the ground where the first
Speaker 6: time in camp you've been practicing against each other. Now
Speaker 6: you actually get the opportunity to go out there and
Speaker 6: hit somebody else. And then when you go out there
Speaker 6: and let a goose that you know, we all know
Speaker 6: in training camp joint practices that everybody's trying to keep
Speaker 6: things close to the vent. So it's straight vanilla like
Speaker 6: this is the closest you're going to get to smash
Speaker 6: mount football. And so for Nuie to say that he's
Speaker 6: a little worried, like that's telling me he's seen something
Speaker 6: out there.
Speaker 4: He's been watching football for a long time. Hey, so
Speaker 4: so Knwie.
Speaker 7: Like we already know with the change of the preseason
Speaker 7: games and everything else like that, the joint practices are
Speaker 7: normally going to be the places where the Vets get
Speaker 7: most of their reps before the first game. Did shot
Speaker 7: he say anything about changing that up and like actually
Speaker 7: trying to put some bests out there to get some
Speaker 7: more looks to shot and see if they could get
Speaker 7: some more cohesiveness going on either side of the ball,
Speaker 7: either side of offense or defensive line.
Speaker 5: He's still kind of playing that look close to the
Speaker 5: vest and and you know what he's going to do
Speaker 5: at least when I when I you know, when he
Speaker 5: last talked up, I wasn't. I was there early on
Speaker 5: campus today, but then I left before a shot in
Speaker 5: the press conference. But look, there's certain guys, man, when
Speaker 5: we know we're not go to a city land that's
Speaker 5: gonna be able to see it. That crest out. But
Speaker 5: you know, everybody on the talking line, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of guys who need to play, and they Knewton talked
Speaker 5: to me about that. Brother. There's a lot of guys
Speaker 5: who need reps and they start to practice and get
Speaker 5: pushed around. They need reps. And the shot can say, hey, look,
Speaker 5: we were vanilla, But I don't think the rams exactly
Speaker 5: out here, you know, putting on Milt chip chocolate chip
Speaker 5: out there. I mean they were a vanilla dude, and
Speaker 5: they was giving you that work. So you know, it's
Speaker 5: kind of one of those things where you can say, hey,
Speaker 5: you didn't do anything, you.
Speaker 3: Didn't go in your bag.
Speaker 5: They didn't really go in their bag, even so they
Speaker 5: just beat you.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it says, what was.
Speaker 5: There looking like Matthew Stafford. I mean, they was killing
Speaker 5: them in certain areas out there in that red zone,
Speaker 5: and the the dds have problems in that red zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I want.
Speaker 2: To go to next when you talk about the other
Speaker 2: problem that had persisted with the Cowboys is the secondary.
Speaker 2: You have the draft pick Ravel who was still you know,
Speaker 2: coming back from injury, Trayvon Diggs who's coming back from injury.
Speaker 2: So now right now you're looking at your secondary if
Speaker 2: the season started today, would probably look like Kier one side,
Speaker 2: uh Bland the other side, and then maybe Kemon Hall
Speaker 2: as your slot cornerback. But it was, it was it
Speaker 2: was kind of getting sliceduff out there. And uh and
Speaker 2: this practice knew me. You know, how do you feel
Speaker 2: about the secondary for what you saw?
Speaker 5: That's that line that Dollar Bill said in the Players
Speaker 5: Club trouble, trouble.
Speaker 7: Trouble, Well, I mean it goes hand in hand.
Speaker 4: You already said that it was. It was.
Speaker 7: It was tough on on the defensive line. So we
Speaker 7: know with the limited amount of pressure that those guys
Speaker 7: will be able to get. But you can't just blame
Speaker 7: it on up front. You know, it goes all together.
Speaker 7: So that's, uh, that's scary. But we already know that
Speaker 7: you know, we're dealing with some guys have some injuries
Speaker 7: and and you know we got some new people back there.
Speaker 7: But hey, like, like like Tray said, you're going up
Speaker 7: against some different guys. At the end of the day,
Speaker 7: you just trying to like like the scheme could come together,
Speaker 7: but you want to go out there and you want
Speaker 7: to show what you got and to hear that we
Speaker 7: didn't show well, and uh yeah, that's that's really concerning
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 6: It's definitely concerning. Like forget being professional on all that.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, like this, this is where we
Speaker 6: see the depth. This is where you see the really
Speaker 6: good teams become great teams to where you could say,
Speaker 6: oh snap, we gotta dominant in the rough. We gotta
Speaker 6: with the what they say, uh uh, the best hidden
Speaker 6: kept secret, Like we don't have that right now. So
Speaker 6: seeing these early practices doing all that, this is what
Speaker 6: Vanilla is is gonna get.
Speaker 4: This is gonna get straight back to football. No forty times, no,
Speaker 4: none of that.
Speaker 6: And not to see people out here actually competing and
Speaker 6: stuff like that does make me nervous because it's like, yo,
Speaker 6: there's the opportunity, Like what's going on in the back end.
Speaker 6: Do we not have the depth or do you not
Speaker 6: have that dog mentality? Or like, is everybody waiting waiting
Speaker 6: and say, oh, we're going to be better when we
Speaker 6: get these vets back, when we get Digs back, when
Speaker 6: we get Michael Parsons. No, it shouldn't be that. It
Speaker 6: should be Hey, I'm trying to step up right now.
Speaker 6: And I guess that would be my follow up question.
Speaker 6: I know you got to get going soon, but who
Speaker 6: is that guy that embraced the opportunity with all these
Speaker 6: injuries out there?
Speaker 4: Who is that bright spot?
Speaker 6: Give us something good to talk about because we've been
Speaker 6: hearing negative stuff.
Speaker 5: Okay, he's had a good champ and he's showing you
Speaker 5: that they took the cheered and they took a good
Speaker 5: chance on him. Uh follow and Thomas, I think it's
Speaker 5: going to be able to come in here and play.
Speaker 5: So I will say that let's see what happens Saturday
Speaker 5: night and after Saturday, come Monday, we'll be able to
Speaker 5: really do a depot. Did they learn and whether the
Speaker 5: coach is able to coach these guys up and get
Speaker 5: them on to their uh, you know, get them on
Speaker 5: to the next level. Because I asked Aaron Whitecott, what
Speaker 5: are you looking for on on Saturday as the D
Speaker 5: line coach? And he said, to be able to take
Speaker 5: what we saw practice where we have to work on
Speaker 5: it and implement it the game get better at it.
Speaker 5: And that's gonna to me, that's gonna be And you
Speaker 5: got playball here, you know, can you coach it? You know,
Speaker 5: you see an issue, a huge bought, can you coach
Speaker 5: it up and get better from it? And I think
Speaker 5: for me that's what I'm looking for Saturday, and he got,
Speaker 5: how do you how do you rebound from uh struggling
Speaker 5: on Tuesday against his Rams football team and being ready
Speaker 5: for the intensity today.
Speaker 2: Play with all right, now it's something you're about to
Speaker 2: take off, brother, So we appreciate you jumping on with
Speaker 2: us before you get on this flight.
Speaker 3: Have a safe flight, uh, and we'll see you next week.
Speaker 5: All right, guys, we'll talk to you laters.
Speaker 4: Second, Safe travels, bro, save travels. Guess up that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know one of the things that I heard,
Speaker 2: I got you have to talk to Nate Newton yesterday and.
Speaker 3: He talked about tempo and speed.
Speaker 2: He said, you know, when we were out at practice,
Speaker 2: just regular practice, said the Cowboys kind of had a
Speaker 2: different tempo, he said, but man Lo and Behold, when
Speaker 2: the Rams came to town, they had a different tempo
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys just couldn't match that tempo. And that
Speaker 2: leads me to believe when it comes to the coaching
Speaker 2: aspect of this, are the Cowboys on pace to where
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be to get ready to open up
Speaker 2: the season. Because if you're talking about you know, another
Speaker 2: team's come in and they've had such a significant greater
Speaker 2: pace than you, energy than you, physicalness than you.
Speaker 6: What what?
Speaker 3: What's the hole on it? You got? You get your
Speaker 3: side out over there. So I want you to I
Speaker 3: want you to speak on it.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, do you be nervous about the stuff
Speaker 6: that you see in practice? Yes, But there's been a
Speaker 6: numerous the team. I've been a journeyman playing on nine
Speaker 6: teams throughout my teen year in the career. There are
Speaker 6: some days that we didn't took some whoopings, Like you
Speaker 6: think you're moving fast into another juggernaut comes in there
Speaker 6: and they show you like, hey, this is that.
Speaker 3: Good driving the three hundred? I think it's a fantom
Speaker 3: to a fantom pull up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Once that fantom pull up. Then it's like ooh, snap,
Speaker 6: hold on, that is a fantom. But you know what
Speaker 6: the good thing about knowing that that is a fanom Like, Yeah,
Speaker 6: my car looked good, but guess what I just got
Speaker 6: saved with my dollars a little bit more so I
Speaker 6: can know where the measuring stick is like, because you know,
Speaker 6: you get a little complacent, you get to only see
Speaker 6: yourself in front of practice when somebody else come in
Speaker 6: there and be like, Yo, y'all thought y'all moving fast.
Speaker 6: We're showing y'all. Are y'all ready to work? Or a
Speaker 6: y'all ready to work? This might reinnite you. It's hard
Speaker 6: to go out there and beat somebody a second time. Yeah,
Speaker 6: y'all might have got the best of us on Tuesday,
Speaker 6: but we know what's coming. We know what y'all gonna do.
Speaker 6: We sing your best right now and if we're keeping it,
Speaker 6: but Vanilla, what we already seen, we know how to adjust.
Speaker 6: So as far as having that, are you ready for
Speaker 6: the season, I rather you take your lumps right now
Speaker 6: so you can get ready there for the season.
Speaker 4: So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 6: But that first game is gonna tell us a lot like, hey,
Speaker 6: we got something to build off of, or hey, man,
Speaker 6: let's be realistic with ourselves.
Speaker 7: Hey, I was part of a team that actually had
Speaker 7: to experience something just like this when I was with
Speaker 7: the Titans.
Speaker 4: My cousin is Tylaw.
Speaker 7: He was playing for the Patriots, and so we used
Speaker 7: to work out and train together in the offseason. And
Speaker 7: so one time I was actually up in New England
Speaker 7: and I was able to go to like they let
Speaker 7: me come in and take part in one of their workouts.
Speaker 7: You know, our strength coach at the time in Tennessee's
Speaker 7: name with Steve Waterson. I called Waterson that day and
Speaker 7: I'm like, look, bro, I'm gonna tell you what the
Speaker 7: difference is right now. I'm like, their workout, their warm
Speaker 7: up is our workout, all right, and so like you
Speaker 7: actually get a chance, and mind you, that could have
Speaker 7: been one of the most beneficial things that happened for
Speaker 7: the Cowboys that early. All right, to see, Okay, we
Speaker 7: think we at the right pace, but now we really
Speaker 7: recognizing that we got to turn it up a little
Speaker 7: bit more so if anything, like like Trey said, get
Speaker 7: them bumps and bruises early, get them learning experiences early.
Speaker 7: So later on they turned into like a great graduation
Speaker 7: experience by the time you get into the regular season
Speaker 7: and get into the postseason.
Speaker 4: And big fact, this is where you're going to see
Speaker 4: your dogs.
Speaker 6: Like when you say, hey, I need to see who's
Speaker 6: that dog who had that Jordan Lewis mentality on this team,
Speaker 6: shout out to him.
Speaker 4: That was my dog. It was a team man.
Speaker 6: I got to see him as a young puppy, a
Speaker 6: young dog to growing up to being that big dog.
Speaker 6: And right now you're gonna get that eye waking up moment.
Speaker 6: You're gonna sit there and say, hey, we might've got
Speaker 6: our bus whoop, but there ain't no proven starters. The
Speaker 6: coaches are coming in there, oh I'm embarrassed this and
Speaker 6: that like it's gonna be a certain dynamic to tell
Speaker 6: you like, hey, you gotta go. And this is where
Speaker 6: those dogs get that certain genis at qua like hold on,
Speaker 6: this race way closer than what I think you do.
Speaker 4: And the guys that are the real races, what do
Speaker 4: they do.
Speaker 6: They take off, they get that last leg like hold on,
Speaker 6: I can be starting right now. This spot ain't sold up.
Speaker 6: So this is where I say not talking about just
Speaker 6: corners when We're not talking about one position in particular
Speaker 6: unless you're like Dak Prascott seeing Lamb.
Speaker 4: Everything else is up for grabs over here.
Speaker 6: There is nobody like Osa, like there are certain spots
Speaker 6: that are open, so everybody should know, like, hey, this
Speaker 6: is where we're gonna show up. So I do like
Speaker 6: hearing this because anybody can be good when they up
Speaker 6: on top. I want to see how you're gonna respond
Speaker 6: once you get punched in that mouth. You got punched
Speaker 6: in the mouth this week. I want to see if
Speaker 6: you're gonna come back over here.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 6: I love Dragon ball Z because Goku he goes there
Speaker 6: and he takes him a good but whooping every show.
Speaker 6: But guess what, you ain't gonna whoop Goku two times
Speaker 6: like that, you come back, he's gonna say, Okay, I
Speaker 6: know what's going I got stronger, So I want to
Speaker 6: see who's getting stronger now.
Speaker 4: So it's that time.
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Speaker 2: we'll be super saying we'll be will next next?
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Speaker 2: But something he said at the podium, I want to
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Speaker 2: So, fellas, I brought up a topic as they got
Speaker 2: through the padded practice and Coach Shottenheimer he had his
Speaker 2: press conference and he was kind of disappointed.
Speaker 3: He didn't like what he saw in there.
Speaker 2: But as I'm I always like to just I take
Speaker 2: in my brain, I take what I see, I take
Speaker 2: what I know, and then from the people who are
Speaker 2: in charge of it all, take what they say, and
Speaker 2: I start to piece it all together right, And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how of this puzzle put together right?
Speaker 4: What you're putting down.
Speaker 2: So Brian Schottenheimer coming into this training camp, he was
Speaker 2: very adamant about this is going to be a physical
Speaker 2: football team. We're gonna run the football, That's how we're
Speaker 2: going to operate. We're gonna work under center, we're gonna
Speaker 2: work off play action, all of these things. And as
Speaker 2: the practice is going on, right, you're practicing against yourself.
Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to go out there and work
Speaker 2: on the things that you want to work on. One
Speaker 2: of the things that I a little bit detest when
Speaker 2: it comes to a training camp coverage when you have
Speaker 2: and I appreciate all the media members that partaken, but
Speaker 2: sometimes it gets a little bit overblown when a player
Speaker 2: happened and then you'll look running back runs out for
Speaker 2: twenty five yards and I go, did we not see
Speaker 2: the guy run across his face and tap his hit.
Speaker 3: Fl Like that's a tackle on the backfield, that's a
Speaker 3: two yard game.
Speaker 2: That quarterback was back there sacked twice, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, They're like, what a great throw out of film,
Speaker 2: Like did we not see the cornerbacks get sacked like
Speaker 2: that's not a real thing. All right, cool whatever, Right,
Speaker 2: but they celebrate what they see and so I get it.
Speaker 3: I understand it. And then you get to the point where.
Speaker 2: All right, now we're adding these practices and again I
Speaker 2: know some people say it's just practice. Well, for the ones,
Speaker 2: this is all I have because they won't play in
Speaker 2: the preseason games when we were coming about Veterri's played
Speaker 2: at least in the third preseason game. So that way
Speaker 2: you got a chance to really see, all right, what
Speaker 2: it was, what the guys are gonna look like, this
Speaker 2: is what the team's kind of identity is going to
Speaker 2: be built on. Coach Schottenheimer got to the podium and
Speaker 2: he said, you know, he'd liked the pad level and
Speaker 2: the pace and all the type of thing. They didn't
Speaker 2: do what they wanted to do. But then he said,
Speaker 2: I got outside myself. He said things weren't going right,
Speaker 2: and I took a shot through the bomb. He said,
Speaker 2: I threw the bomb. He said that was off script,
Speaker 2: it wasn't in what we were supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2: But I got upset, and so I took the shot right,
Speaker 2: And for me, I'm looking at okay, I want to
Speaker 2: be a physical running football team.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine with me, That's fine with me. But
Speaker 3: then I go and look, I go, whoa, you don't
Speaker 3: really have the offensive wine to do what I said you.
Speaker 2: Want to do, right, And then you go, we're gonna
Speaker 2: be We're gonna run the football, and you didn't really
Speaker 2: bring in the backs that.
Speaker 4: You're gonna really, I mean, nervous past it, bring it around,
Speaker 4: bring it.
Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing wrong, nothing wrong with Javonte go tar heels,
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with bills and you know all that kind
Speaker 2: of But I'm just saying, like that, ain't that ain't
Speaker 2: the backfield that makes me believe you're gonna really be
Speaker 2: a dominant, physical running football team.
Speaker 4: Fired? But go ahead, pastor what they say, keep talking
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 3: So when the thing when?
Speaker 2: When when the ish hit the fan and you try
Speaker 2: to come in against the rams and run the football
Speaker 2: physically and oppose your will.
Speaker 3: And you could not.
Speaker 4: Dang, you fell up with the brakes on them and
Speaker 4: you could not.
Speaker 3: You said, the hell with it. Here's what I know
Speaker 3: I can do and air that thing out.
Speaker 2: Was that shoddy showing a little bit of yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: saying this over here, But because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, here's what I do know, and here's what
Speaker 2: I am confided in. Most teams don't have an answer
Speaker 2: for eighty eight, right, most teams don't have an answer
Speaker 2: for three.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: Four will be just fine. As long as he's upright,
Speaker 2: that's something that you're going to have in your bet. Yo,
Speaker 2: Jimmy's and Yo, those jimmies and Joe's ain't too many catchs.
Speaker 2: On the other side, got enough Jimmies and Joe's to
Speaker 2: say otherwise to stop there.
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's Shody kind of giving us a little
Speaker 3: bit of false talk about this whole running.
Speaker 2: Game thing, because when it all sat and done and
Speaker 2: he got he got upset.
Speaker 3: He said, you're gonna go past his football?
Speaker 7: Hey, man, I think that Shody honestly was was was
Speaker 7: that was his game plan. I think that originally in
Speaker 7: his mind he had the concept that he wanted to
Speaker 7: come out here and be a physical, run first football team.
Speaker 7: But if that ain't working, then you gotta lean on
Speaker 7: what you know is gonna work. And like like like
Speaker 7: we said before, if I know I got something proven
Speaker 7: in this hand, I really don't need to worry about
Speaker 7: too much.
Speaker 4: What's over here. That's gonna have me guessing in this hand.
Speaker 4: You already mentioned we.
Speaker 7: Got Ceedee Lamb out there, all pro receiver, and you
Speaker 7: got George Pickens who just came into the fold, who
Speaker 7: on most teams is gonna be somebody's number one, not
Speaker 7: somebody's number two. So in order to try to balance
Speaker 7: the odds a little bit and try to get some
Speaker 7: upper hand, if you can somewhere, you're gonna have to
Speaker 7: start throwing that ball. You're gonna have to try to
Speaker 7: find a place, a way to make a play, or
Speaker 7: to say, like what Shaddy said, to find some relief
Speaker 7: to stop being upset with what's going on right now.
Speaker 7: So you gotta take a shot. So am I thinking
Speaker 7: that what he's saying is somewhat like a backpedal out
Speaker 7: of what he's now. I don't think he's backpelling. I
Speaker 7: think he's just honestly recognizing where the team is right now,
Speaker 7: what he has to.
Speaker 4: Do with it.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 6: Man. What he said I might be a walking book
Speaker 6: and cliches, but what they say on Friday when the
Speaker 6: cops came in there, he said, Man, I know you
Speaker 6: ain't gonna rest nobody.
Speaker 4: But I just want you to will beloved.
Speaker 6: And so what I like from this, I'm not reading
Speaker 6: too much into it, but I like that he's telling us,
Speaker 6: he's giving us the coaches answers. But we seen something
Speaker 6: that we seen we haven't seen from our Dallas coaches
Speaker 6: in a long time, which is that passion having that
Speaker 6: Dan Campbell mindset of like you know what, we got
Speaker 6: a game plan, but sometimes we just got to go
Speaker 6: in there, bite ankles, knees and go in there and
Speaker 6: do that and shot he took it, like yo, I'm
Speaker 6: tired of it. Is like, hold on, we know this
Speaker 6: is prankic, we know it's supposed to be vanilla. But
Speaker 6: let me get you about me real quick. Let me
Speaker 6: show you when you jabb and he jabbed him up
Speaker 6: off of him. But like you said, he whipped a
Speaker 6: little something on the way out. But at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, I'm not really worried about it. I
Speaker 6: don't want you to show your hand too early because
Speaker 6: if that, if that was your ace in the hole
Speaker 6: and you showed me that and there's nothing else that
Speaker 6: can proceed or you know, kind of counterbalance it. It's
Speaker 6: gonna make me nervous. But on the top of it,
Speaker 6: it's like it's training camp. Then just just punch somebody,
Speaker 6: like what the coach saying, Hey, I don't want you
Speaker 6: all to fight, but if you fight, hit somebody, Hit
Speaker 6: somebody and make it worth it. If we're gonna do
Speaker 6: joint practices, man, damn that you got something to prove.
Speaker 4: Right now.
Speaker 6: We all talk about that people are supposed to be
Speaker 6: waiting and stuff like that. People don't play in these
Speaker 6: first games. Like no, let's be realistic. At least from
Speaker 6: my playing days, everybody played except your prima donnas the
Speaker 6: bat And when we say prima donna's, y'all might be offended.
Speaker 6: Don't get offended, quarterbacks whatever. But the guys that are
Speaker 6: back there in the back end, your qbs, you're running backs,
Speaker 6: those are the guys that set out. But in that
Speaker 6: trench work, it was a certain bravado that you had
Speaker 6: to have amongst yourself, like I'm gonna get my reps in,
Speaker 6: young buck, you're gonna get yours in, But let me
Speaker 6: show you how I dog this and dominate this so
Speaker 6: much that hey, when it comes to the game, the
Speaker 6: coach is pulling me back in that front floor, you
Speaker 6: pull them back in that front seven. You typically got
Speaker 6: to say, hey, get out there, go ahead and show
Speaker 6: us what you got, Like, ain't none of that right now.
Speaker 6: So our starters that are the starters need to be
Speaker 6: there to help the young guys develop. The guys that
Speaker 6: are behind there, they need to be showing up like
Speaker 6: this is all hands on deck. This is a new team,
Speaker 6: this is injury and unproven. So I need to see
Speaker 6: all that, and Shoddy is out here, like, yo, I'm
Speaker 6: a new coach. I gotta go out here.
Speaker 4: We need to see this. But also I know there's questions.
Speaker 6: I know people are in the media saying I'm not
Speaker 6: the sexy hiring this and that He's like, nah, I'm
Speaker 6: about to show y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm coming out here and I'm punching it.
Speaker 6: So when you say, hey, I'm supposed to do this
Speaker 6: and then I seen a little emotion, I love that
Speaker 6: because now we've seen that passion, We seen what we
Speaker 6: want from a coach, and that lets me know, like,
Speaker 6: you got some fight and it's early right now. You
Speaker 6: ain't just come out here and say, hey, guys, this
Speaker 6: is a it's a joint practice. We don't want to
Speaker 6: do this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they want some We're gonna go back to
Speaker 4: the drawing board. Nah. He got up out of his
Speaker 4: side his stuff. He said, I got all my composure
Speaker 4: and I need to do that.
Speaker 6: That's what makes the best football player players because of
Speaker 6: the passion being able to channel in and so for
Speaker 6: him to do.
Speaker 4: That, I like it.
Speaker 7: Shot, show me your dog, you said one of the
Speaker 7: most important things just a second ago.
Speaker 4: But with the fact that this this whole new coaching staff.
Speaker 7: I mean, unless your DAK or CD, everything is up
Speaker 7: for grabs, you know, So it's whoever.
Speaker 6: Got a multi million dollar contract or if you ain't
Speaker 6: a first round pick, I'm gonna tell you like this,
Speaker 6: and the way the first round picks are moving nowadays,
Speaker 6: your fourth year ain't even guaranteed no more. It used
Speaker 6: to be four years is guaranteed. And we knew they
Speaker 6: were gonna take the fifth year. Now they started taking
Speaker 6: the fifth year. To now we getting it to where
Speaker 6: people are trying to put clauses in the contract to
Speaker 6: get people out of there their second third year when
Speaker 6: they're not productive. This league is starting to get more
Speaker 6: and more cutthroat, and when you're not a team that
Speaker 6: is run recently and a team that either needs to
Speaker 6: be in the media or needs to be winning. Guess
Speaker 6: what everything is gonna be questioned and right now in
Speaker 6: training camp, these are where the questions get answered. And
Speaker 6: if I'm a player, I'm putting up and I'm trying
Speaker 6: to show up right now in my best foot forward.
Speaker 4: And in that light.
Speaker 2: So you're using your logic, right, this is where the
Speaker 2: questions get answered. Did we answer the question of this
Speaker 2: Cowboys team being a physical running for.
Speaker 6: With getting the questions answers that can't be answered in
Speaker 6: one day. You can't be answered in one practice. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you have good days and stuff like that. So what
Speaker 6: I say, there were some questions that were being answered.
Speaker 6: The question we all had on the show before we
Speaker 6: came in here. What we said secondary, Well, guess what
Speaker 6: KNW We gave us our answer. He said, Elam is
Speaker 6: showing up to be that guy. He is being that
Speaker 6: bright horse. Not we're not talking about people that are
Speaker 6: injured that are not there. We're talking about it available.
Speaker 6: He's been that guy. And then for me, I patted
Speaker 6: my chest earlier because my teammate, my dog, Solomon Tommins,
Speaker 6: I told y'all he's going to be a sleeper horse.
Speaker 6: He's a workman in a workman's defense. He's going to
Speaker 6: show us something. And guess what he answered that question
Speaker 6: so far. Now guess what is still time. We still
Speaker 6: got two more preseason games, so these questions can continue
Speaker 6: to evolve. So I am happy about certain things, but
Speaker 6: there's other things I want to know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Now, my question was going to be to you
Speaker 7: and just to get your evaluation on it, and so
Speaker 7: the people, so the fans can understand too as well,
Speaker 7: Like we've talked about it, but like what would your
Speaker 7: approach be and what was your approach in these joint
Speaker 7: practices as a guy who say, wasn't a top draft pick,
Speaker 7: but you know, you're trying to make the squad.
Speaker 4: You know, like what shed some light on how you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was killed everything right, Okay, that
Speaker 2: was That's been my mentality since since jump right, because
Speaker 2: I knew the only way for me to because I
Speaker 2: wasn't I was, I was probably one of the biggest,
Speaker 2: wasn't the fastest. I didn't come in with a lot
Speaker 2: of draft I didn't have a bunch of guaranteed money
Speaker 2: had had to held my way. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 2: have all of the people in the front office backing me, right.
Speaker 2: I had one dude who was really on my side.
Speaker 2: Jody Camillis was my special team's coach, right, and so
Speaker 2: Jody would tell me.
Speaker 3: Jody would tell me, Dag, listen, I got your back.
Speaker 3: You have my say less.
Speaker 2: So when I when it came down punt team, kickoff team, kickoff,
Speaker 2: return team, return team, you felt one six. You felt
Speaker 2: me every single time. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 2: like what it was personal protective wing. I'm R five
Speaker 2: L five and this was we had four man wedges,
Speaker 2: three man.
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, let's I gotta take you. Know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I got it right before that.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm like, that was my mentality when
Speaker 2: I got a chance, when I got a chance to
Speaker 2: go out there.
Speaker 3: Whether it was scout team, whether it was in the rotation,
Speaker 3: that's what you're getting you all right, Every rep count.
Speaker 2: And my thing was not that I was looking for
Speaker 2: a fight, not that I'm the toughest dude or that
Speaker 2: I'm the baddest dude, whatever, but if me having to
Speaker 2: fight you to get this money, or them cutting me
Speaker 2: because I didn't go hard at you listen, but we
Speaker 2: got to fight there, it's gonna be thirty seconds however
Speaker 2: it goes. However this goal, it's gonna be thirty say
Speaker 2: before they break this up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't about being but it was for me.
Speaker 2: I was always one hundred. It was one hundred miles
Speaker 2: an hour, no matter what.
Speaker 4: And you know what, you like what people don't.
Speaker 6: It brings me to another point that they don't pick
Speaker 6: up is when you going in that fight.
Speaker 4: Mentality, you're going and doing all that.
Speaker 6: You have to do so good right now to where
Speaker 6: when these big name players come back, your Michael Parsons,
Speaker 6: your did Is come back, they're gonna get their reps,
Speaker 6: they're going to be guaranteed the spot.
Speaker 4: These guys we know are going to be here.
Speaker 6: You got to do so good because guess what, right now,
Speaker 6: people are trying to see other things.
Speaker 4: They're playing their backup.
Speaker 6: So just because you think you're making them plays right now,
Speaker 6: you might go out there and be what they say,
Speaker 6: a preseason all American, but in all actuality, the coaches
Speaker 6: and stuff have you slotted as a four string guy,
Speaker 6: special teams guy, or a guy that's going to be
Speaker 6: a practice squad guy that can develop We want to
Speaker 6: keep you here, but we're not there. So you have
Speaker 6: to get so much extra leg room right now to one.
Speaker 6: We're not talking about we're talking about potentially earning the spot.
Speaker 6: We're talking about solidifying yourself to where you give yourself
Speaker 6: enough of a lead stretch on these guys that are
Speaker 6: coming back to where you can get that, because, like
Speaker 6: you said, it's a different day and age when it
Speaker 6: comes to special teams. Now, people aren't hidting, it's not
Speaker 6: things are starting to get fair catch, so it's not
Speaker 6: as a high demand versus back in the day you
Speaker 6: had a guy that made his name on special teams.
Speaker 6: Then from that the next year or the next game,
Speaker 6: he's in there being a playmaker. It was the physicality,
Speaker 6: he's doing everything right there. You don't have all that
Speaker 6: in that totality. It's very short now. And what guys
Speaker 6: need to know is you make the team on special team,
Speaker 6: that one guy that's fighting on you. When you said hey,
Speaker 6: it was my special team coach, he had to come
Speaker 6: in there and say hey, Like for me it was
Speaker 6: Larry Izo. He came in there and looked at me
Speaker 6: and de Boy and said, yeah, you're third round picking
Speaker 6: this and that. But you know, you gotta play the
Speaker 6: game within the game, play chest, not check it. What
Speaker 6: do you want to do? I want to get on
Speaker 6: the field and pass rush. Okay, well you know you
Speaker 6: got to get on the field to even earn the
Speaker 6: opportunity to do that, right.
Speaker 4: I said? Okay?
Speaker 6: Cool? He said, you know what if you really the
Speaker 6: dog that you think you are, how you feel about
Speaker 6: playing gunner?
Speaker 4: What defensive end?
Speaker 6: What six something two hundred and fifty pounds coming out
Speaker 6: there to sixty playing gunner? Yeah, let me go a hand, dude,
Speaker 6: let me keep but being anominally like, how can I
Speaker 6: get out there and make myself more valuable? And when
Speaker 6: you build that value, that's when it's like you get
Speaker 6: those opportunities. So I hope these guys are doing that.
Speaker 6: So when we talk about your elungs, your Solomon Thomas's,
Speaker 6: I know Solomon is going out there and doing it
Speaker 6: every position on that special team. So I want to
Speaker 6: know who are these other guys? And that's what I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be paying attention to this weekend.
Speaker 4: And that's it.
Speaker 2: In this business, we call that a great tease because
Speaker 2: what I have for this final feak well take a break,
Speaker 2: is that as we're heading in the preseason game number one.
Speaker 2: What are some guys, maybe some positions that you're looking
Speaker 2: at to go out there and kind of show themselves
Speaker 2: worthy of an opportunity to gain some more reps, to
Speaker 2: move up that depth charge, and just to talk about
Speaker 2: what these preseason games mean for the guys who aren't
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons and Cede Lambs and George Pickens of the world,
Speaker 2: what these games actually mean to them. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: the guys when we come right back. This is the
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Speaker 3: Next week.
Speaker 2: I'll transition back to hanging with the boys with Nate Newton,
Speaker 2: Shannon Gross, Kirk Daniels.
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Speaker 6: Hey, what do you saying on the von Nels Show
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Speaker 4: I heard got it back there just swimming in the lake.
Speaker 4: But that's let's get back to this.
Speaker 3: We got catfish it. Oh yeah, we got the right
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Speaker 4: Be's and great, Okay, pull up, I got you. You
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Speaker 3: I mean, pull up on us?
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Speaker 3: Me shinning, Nate Kirk, bro you've been a you've been
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Speaker 4: You know how it goes. You go to the VP
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Speaker 3: So, no, you could come on the show. I just
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Speaker 6: I ain't say kick him off the show. I said,
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Speaker 4: I heard I heard him.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jay Holly got a little bit of pull around here.
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Speaker 3: I've been around these part fifteen plus years. I gotta
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Speaker 4: We'll talk to him.
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Speaker 2: All right, But the Cowboys, Uh, I got another show
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Speaker 3: You know no, you don't talk just right to another
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Speaker 2: The Cowboys are heading into preseason game number one, against
Speaker 2: the La Rams this Saturday, six pm.
Speaker 3: You know, this is this is the kind of the kickoff, right.
Speaker 2: We've been in OTA's, We've had the draft, we've had
Speaker 2: all the conversations that have surrounded the Cowboys. We've seen
Speaker 2: the jointed, padded practice. But as we get into the game,
Speaker 2: the live action coaches get y'all butt on the sideline.
Speaker 2: We ain't doing all this scripted stuff. Ain't all the
Speaker 2: do over stuff. You got to go out there and
Speaker 2: play the game. Who are some of the guys or
Speaker 2: some of the positions that you're looking at to go
Speaker 2: out there and show themselves worthy of maybe getting a
Speaker 2: spot on the roster, moving up the depth chart or
Speaker 2: showing us I am here.
Speaker 3: Let me show y'all. I'm like that Anthony.
Speaker 7: For me, it's it's it's it's what I you know,
Speaker 7: I've always believe the Cowboys are built off for two things,
Speaker 7: and me growing up just being a Cowboy fan my
Speaker 7: whole life. Running backs, solid running game and that doomsday
Speaker 7: defense today used to talk about all the time. So
Speaker 7: for me, it's going to honestly see like it's going
Speaker 7: to be like I want to see this running back
Speaker 7: committee and if it's going to be running back by committee.
Speaker 7: I want to see that if it's going to be
Speaker 7: one dude that's going to step up and show that
Speaker 7: he could be the workhorse, I want to see what's
Speaker 7: going to happen there. And then the questions that we're
Speaker 7: already dealing with in the secondary as well. You know,
Speaker 7: kyer Elam is here, he stepped up, he's been playing well,
Speaker 7: He's had an awesome camp. I want to see him
Speaker 7: continue to do that, you know, because if he can,
Speaker 7: honestly you resurrect his career here and turn that thing
Speaker 7: into like him digs and bland out there, you got
Speaker 7: three solid dudes out there that can literally go out there.
Speaker 3: And ball Donald Donald on the cornerback though he said.
Speaker 7: So, I'm talking about the corners, but but for me,
Speaker 7: that's where it's going to start. I want to see
Speaker 7: the running backs. I want to see how this run
Speaker 7: game is gonna come together. That's gonna be a part
Speaker 7: of the offense line of course, and I want to
Speaker 7: see what's.
Speaker 2: Go saying right now far as the running backs you're
Speaker 2: talking about, from the way that the the the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: they had their unofficial depth chart come out the other
Speaker 2: day and they had it as Javonte Williams, they had
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders, and then they had Jayden Blue. I saw
Speaker 2: earlier today Deuce Vaughn has come back into the fold.
Speaker 2: He's back off the hamstring injury. He needs this, he
Speaker 2: needs this work. Of course, Hannter Lipke will be in
Speaker 2: that mix as well as well as Phil Maffa. So
Speaker 2: there are a lot of running backs and I don't
Speaker 2: know how much the Miles Sanders has been out for
Speaker 2: a couple of days, so I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: actually gonna play in the game. But that running back crew,
Speaker 2: it's a lot of unproving guys who need to kind
Speaker 2: of this is a bunch step race in the running
Speaker 2: back room. It's a bunch step race in the running
Speaker 2: back room. A lot of guys have to prove themselves
Speaker 2: to be worthy of the reps that they want to
Speaker 2: get this upcoming season. The mantra, who was some guys
Speaker 2: a position that you're looking at.
Speaker 6: The positions I'm gonna probably be looking at it, and
Speaker 6: we all know where I'm going.
Speaker 4: Everything's won in the trenches.
Speaker 6: I want to see this trench warfare because, like I said,
Speaker 6: if we can't keep back up, none of the weapon's
Speaker 6: gonna be good over there.
Speaker 4: If we ain't got a good offensive line.
Speaker 6: Guess what, we ain't gona see none of these running
Speaker 6: backs being able to be running back by committee, or
Speaker 6: guess what, whoever we if we do have a bell cow,
Speaker 6: guess what that bell cow is gonna get his bell
Speaker 6: rung a little bit too much early to where he
Speaker 6: doesn't lie. So I'm looking at the offensive line. I'm looking,
Speaker 6: like I said, I'm looking to see football like who
Speaker 6: can build value right now and say I don't care,
Speaker 6: Like I want to see that first moment of adversity
Speaker 6: and say, hey, I'm dropping it. I'm putting it right
Speaker 6: here in the saying, and we're going by. I need
Speaker 6: my offensive line. I need them to be nasty. I
Speaker 6: need them to go out there and turn this up.
Speaker 6: I want to go see this defensive line. I want
Speaker 6: to see y'all go hunt with also seeing y'all hunt.
Speaker 6: I don't want to just see y'all out here getting
Speaker 6: sacks and tackles and stuff. I want to see who's
Speaker 6: going to be making the plays on special teams, because
Speaker 6: most likely that's where we're going.
Speaker 4: To see you at.
Speaker 6: Whoever is the defensive end. Yeah, we know Michael's gonna
Speaker 6: be over here. Then we're gonna have whoever's there, but
Speaker 6: that second guy, that third guy. You're going to be
Speaker 6: on special team. So I want to see who's going
Speaker 6: to be out there not only making the special teams
Speaker 6: play or the defensive plays, because there's always going to
Speaker 6: be somebody that we get excited about. We like, hey,
Speaker 6: let's see him against starts, let's see him against that.
Speaker 6: But the guy that is making and not only the
Speaker 6: defensive plays, but also making the crazy special team play
Speaker 6: like those highlight plays taking them back for a touchdown.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about going down there and smacking somebody and
Speaker 6: making him drop the ball like where he's playing it
Speaker 6: like it's a defensive rep. Those are the guys where
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like, hey, he got dog, he got fight,
Speaker 6: he got skilled schematics gonna come later on he can
Speaker 6: develop into those guys. And that typically comes from your
Speaker 6: front seven on the D line, your defensive ends, your
Speaker 6: linebackers showing those athletic guys. And if we see a
Speaker 6: big guy out there, a d tackle that can potentially
Speaker 6: add value by running down on kickoff and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: Like there's going to be some athletic plays if you
Speaker 6: know where to look. So I'm going to be more
Speaker 6: interested to look at the old line and look at
Speaker 6: the special team play.
Speaker 3: For me, I'm looking player specific. I'm looking to go.
Speaker 2: I like Sam Williams. This is a guy who's been
Speaker 2: here for a while. And the one thing that from
Speaker 2: when you look at Sam Williams, he's never lacked the talent.
Speaker 2: He's like the discipline, right to do things, and then
Speaker 2: he's been hurt. And this is a guy who's in
Speaker 2: a contract year. We're talking about Mike and some other guys.
Speaker 2: Sam Williams is in the contract year, so I'll be
Speaker 2: looking for see. You know, he's talked a lot this
Speaker 2: off season, and I like some of the things that
Speaker 2: he said. He talked about, you know, I had to
Speaker 2: eliminate some of the distractions of my life. I got
Speaker 2: rid of some close friends and family. I've learned how
Speaker 2: to say no. I've learned how to turn my life
Speaker 2: into much more of a professional thing. So I want
Speaker 2: to see if that mentality has now translated over into
Speaker 2: the football field and if he can go out there
Speaker 2: and make some plays, because if he can, if a
Speaker 2: guy likes Sam Williams with his ability, his size, his power,
Speaker 2: his speed, his strength. Then that gives you another one
Speaker 2: of those guys in that rotation up front and that
Speaker 2: defensive line that whether Mike is there or not, you
Speaker 2: can have a solid front.
Speaker 4: And we are not to cut you off. Sorry about that.
Speaker 6: You good, but we all know that that third guy
Speaker 6: is really will make everything go around. Like you have
Speaker 6: your you have your Batman, you have your Robbin, but
Speaker 6: that third gadget defensive end, like that's who's that's the
Speaker 6: guy where like we don't lose a drop off when
Speaker 6: he comes there and the next thing you know, he
Speaker 6: goes out the next year and get a fifty million
Speaker 6: dollar contract thirty million. He might not be the highest
Speaker 6: he might he might not be one hundred million dollar guy,
Speaker 6: but you showed those those qualities and being a backup,
Speaker 6: like being a young veteran that's been here, that's proven,
Speaker 6: that goes off and play. You had guys like I
Speaker 6: don't want to say milite Collins because he's been killing
Speaker 6: since day one, but those guys that it was like, hey,
Speaker 6: people were talking about Tyrone Crawford, d Law and stuff
Speaker 6: like that. Then you had a Malite Collins come in
Speaker 6: there and kill and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 6: goes to another team, he gets paid. He's been a
Speaker 6: starter and been a perennial starter for a year and
Speaker 6: the year out. So when you talk about Sam Williams,
Speaker 6: I'm not about to lie and say, oh, I'm very
Speaker 6: familiar with this game, and you know that I need
Speaker 6: make me familiar with your game, make me believe everything
Speaker 6: everybody else is talking about, because we're talking about is
Speaker 6: potential and stuff that hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: So yeah, potential get your fire a lot of times.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: One of the presser bus pipes and the other guy
Speaker 2: I'm looking at, I'm I am president of the team,
Speaker 2: Jack Samborn, Jake Sambory, Jack Sanborn. I'm president of the
Speaker 2: Samborn fan club.
Speaker 3: You can't even get it right.
Speaker 2: I'm president of the I'm president of the Samborn fan Club.
Speaker 3: But I gotta see my dog go out there. I
Speaker 3: have no history with Samborn.
Speaker 2: He's just one of the guys that I when I
Speaker 2: look at football players, especially on the defensive side, sometimes
Speaker 2: you just need football playing dudes.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He might not be the biggest, the strongest, the fastest.
Speaker 2: You know, it reminds me of Angelino. That's a guy
Speaker 2: that Detroit Lions Angelina. And he's just a football player, dude.
Speaker 2: He just shows up every single week. He's just out
Speaker 2: there making plays, playing with his hair on fire. And
Speaker 2: and for for for Samborn, I need him to be
Speaker 2: that for the Cowboys. I don't need you to be sexy.
Speaker 2: I don't need you to be out of this world.
Speaker 2: I just need you to be a football playing, destructive dude.
Speaker 2: And so I want to see him out there on
Speaker 2: this defense and at that lineback and cores, just creating
Speaker 2: have it.
Speaker 4: Do you think he's gonna do that? I do you do?
Speaker 3: I do think that.
Speaker 6: I do?
Speaker 3: I do think that.
Speaker 6: You know you said, I know, we all say what
Speaker 6: we want to see. Let's be realistic off of what
Speaker 6: you've seen and what you heard so far. I do
Speaker 6: you think he's gonna be there?
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be your prototypical white linebacker.
Speaker 4: And if anybody knows the shan Lee all those guys.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna put him on that level. No no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, put him on that level. Only different. Okay,
Speaker 3: that with my teammates different bring.
Speaker 4: He was gonna put me back.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, but no, but hold on, hear me
Speaker 6: out when I say this, though, when I say now,
Speaker 6: I did say he's going to be there.
Speaker 4: On that talent. But I'm talking about that mindset.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 6: When you said Sean Lee, everybody knew he was going
Speaker 6: to know his assignment. It was gonna run full ye
Speaker 6: and he gonna hit it even if his arm is broken,
Speaker 6: like yeah, cast off Blue Mountain State.
Speaker 3: He boom, yes.
Speaker 6: And so that's what I say, that mindset. I didn't
Speaker 6: say time, okay, so let me finish it, let grandma come.
Speaker 6: But you think for you to say that when you
Speaker 6: say that about linebacking corps, that's all I think about
Speaker 6: when Cowboys, when they were at their their peak, they
Speaker 6: had those guys back there where it was like we
Speaker 6: had the sexy players in the front. You had the
Speaker 6: Greg elisis the Marcus where uh shoot, he can keep
Speaker 6: going on. Other guys in front exactly spears all those
Speaker 6: like those were the names that we talked about, but
Speaker 6: you had guys on that back end that were the
Speaker 6: smart guys that were the workhorse. And so for you
Speaker 6: to say that the Cowboys finally have that workhorse and
Speaker 6: if he's durable, that's what that's what I feel like,
Speaker 6: that's been the missing piece of the defense for years.
Speaker 7: It made me think about your boy that way. Yes,
Speaker 7: first person carrying to my mind, and that.
Speaker 6: Was great in his own retrospect, but you got lost
Speaker 6: between behind the star power. But everybody knows that Dad
Speaker 6: was out there chasing it to a lot of these
Speaker 6: guys that matter.
Speaker 4: For you to say he's going to be that prototypical linebacker,
Speaker 4: I'm like.
Speaker 3: Okay, said white linebacker. I'll say it for you.
Speaker 4: I mean my white line white linebacker, whatever the case
Speaker 4: would be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But yes, when you when you say that, that that
Speaker 6: that's that backbone of the defense. Like it's always been
Speaker 6: this backbone in the defense, and so who's going to
Speaker 6: be that backbone?
Speaker 4: So I'm curious about that.
Speaker 6: So when you say that, I'm really excited, especially hearing
Speaker 6: that coming from a person of your caliber. We all
Speaker 6: know that we judge our positions way harder than anybody else.
Speaker 4: So for you to give him that praise.
Speaker 3: Watch him, watch watch him.
Speaker 6: Why I am appreciated. If not, I'm promising I'm gonna
Speaker 6: send you a text would be what they say, we're
Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna have that that paper right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine with me.
Speaker 4: You gonna have to answer the call, that's fine with me.
Speaker 3: I'll definitely take it.
Speaker 4: Mister Sam Sam Bonn.
Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, let's go baby, white linebacker with the
Speaker 2: hump and the crooked nose right there.
Speaker 6: If it ain't black face out linebacker, I don't want to.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the guys that paint up everything.
Speaker 2: Go to war?
Speaker 6: What what the what?
Speaker 4: What Jarry? What Jerry used to say back in the day.
Speaker 4: If it ain't an award, daddy.
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