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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players

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Speaker 1: Loune broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Anthony dor sat De, Montrey

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Speaker 1: Moore and new He Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Players Lounge Training Camp dition.

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Speaker 3: The boys are back in the building.

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Speaker 2: You already know what it is man, the Players line,

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Speaker 2: but we keep it playing like it here.

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Speaker 3: And if you're looking at us right now, and you

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Speaker 3: know which.

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Speaker 2: One of us in this room is very daph for down,

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Speaker 2: I may say so myself. More at the set, we

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Speaker 2: got Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: On the line.

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Speaker 2: Who's actually about the border flight? And come on back

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Speaker 2: to df W potam I am jes see Holly. This

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Speaker 2: is the Players Lone, brought to you by Aristocrat. Let's

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Speaker 2: get into Let's get right to Newi Scruggs before we

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Speaker 2: has to has to get off the phone, uh and

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Speaker 2: and take off on this flight. Newie, we haven't had

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Speaker 2: a chance to talk about as a group, uh, the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and their padded practice against the l A Rams.

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Speaker 2: You said when you were done off the call that

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Speaker 2: you were gonna stand right next to three time Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton because you

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Speaker 2: wanted to see what this thing looked like from a

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Speaker 2: trench's perspective.

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Speaker 3: What did you gather from your uh.

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Speaker 2: Your practice eyes and the knowledge of Nate Newton?

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Speaker 4: Give me some good nuie.

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Speaker 5: There's trouble, guys, there's trouble there right now. Okay, haven't

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Speaker 5: watched the practice there. They've got work to do. We

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Speaker 5: talked to the oppensive line coach yesterday and he was honest.

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Speaker 5: He said, you know, we have work to do in

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Speaker 5: some of the things they're going to go do. Talk

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Speaker 5: Saturday for the preseason game against the Rams is recognized.

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Speaker 5: You know what the Rams were doing, how to get

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Speaker 5: pad levels and execute better, so they know they were

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Speaker 5: not good. And Shottenheimer talking about when you took the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys out, we're gonna be a Wether football team. We've

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Speaker 5: got to be physical. Well, they got out physical and

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Speaker 5: they could not run the football. So that's something they've

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Speaker 5: got to work on on Saturday, and it's their opportunity

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Speaker 5: to look at the film and say, Okay, this is

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Speaker 5: what we got through. I'm still worried about the fact

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Speaker 5: that you're going to try to run out potentially two

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Speaker 5: more rookies on your offensive line. You did it last

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Speaker 5: year was the struggle. You got Booker over there at

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Speaker 5: right guard and then you've got your left tackle. I

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Speaker 5: asked about lel cause I said, well, well start at guard,

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Speaker 5: and they said, yes, you're gonna start at right guard.

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Speaker 5: That he they said, he wants to play left on

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Speaker 5: the left side, but they're going to start him on

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Speaker 5: the right. So, guys, between Ausome Richards being the backup

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Speaker 5: and Thomas being the left tackles, this is it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be interesting on Saturday night, guys. But the offensive and

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Speaker 5: defensive line that's got to get better for this team.

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Speaker 5: After watching that practice.

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Speaker 2: De Montree is someone who's played a little on the

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Speaker 2: defensive line. When you get into these type of practices

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Speaker 2: and these type of games, you know, what is it

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Speaker 2: that you're looking to accomplish from a defense perspective, trying

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Speaker 2: to dominate the offensive line?

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Speaker 6: Man, when you have these joint practices, you're just going

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Speaker 6: out there just trying to dominate it. At this point,

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Speaker 6: like schematics can be coached up, we can talk about

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Speaker 6: all that, but you just want to go out there

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Speaker 6: and just hit somebody lay the ground where the first

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Speaker 6: time in camp you've been practicing against each other. Now

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Speaker 6: you actually get the opportunity to go out there and

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Speaker 6: hit somebody else. And then when you go out there

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Speaker 6: and let a goose that you know, we all know

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Speaker 6: in training camp joint practices that everybody's trying to keep

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Speaker 6: things close to the vent. So it's straight vanilla like

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Speaker 6: this is the closest you're going to get to smash

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Speaker 6: mount football. And so for Nuie to say that he's

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Speaker 6: a little worried, like that's telling me he's seen something

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Speaker 4: He's been watching football for a long time. Hey, so

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Speaker 4: so Knwie.

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Speaker 7: Like we already know with the change of the preseason

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Speaker 7: games and everything else like that, the joint practices are

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Speaker 7: normally going to be the places where the Vets get

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Speaker 7: most of their reps before the first game. Did shot

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Speaker 7: he say anything about changing that up and like actually

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Speaker 5: He's still kind of playing that look close to the

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Speaker 5: vest and and you know what he's going to do

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Speaker 5: at least when I when I you know, when he

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Speaker 5: last talked up, I wasn't. I was there early on

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Speaker 5: campus today, but then I left before a shot in

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Speaker 5: the press conference. But look, there's certain guys, man, when

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Speaker 5: we know we're not go to a city land that's

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Speaker 5: gonna be able to see it. That crest out. But

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Speaker 5: you know, everybody on the talking line, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of guys who need to play, and they Knewton talked

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Speaker 5: to me about that. Brother. There's a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: who need reps and they start to practice and get

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Speaker 5: pushed around. They need reps. And the shot can say, hey, look,

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Speaker 5: we were vanilla, But I don't think the rams exactly

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Speaker 5: out here, you know, putting on Milt chip chocolate chip

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Speaker 5: out there. I mean they were a vanilla dude, and

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Speaker 5: they was giving you that work. So you know, it's

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Speaker 5: kind of one of those things where you can say, hey,

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Speaker 5: you didn't do anything, you.

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Speaker 3: Didn't go in your bag.

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Speaker 5: They didn't really go in their bag, even so they

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Speaker 5: just beat you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it says, what was.

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Speaker 5: There looking like Matthew Stafford. I mean, they was killing

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Speaker 5: and the the dds have problems in that red zone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I want.

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Speaker 2: To go to next when you talk about the other

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Speaker 2: problem that had persisted with the Cowboys is the secondary.

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Speaker 2: You have the draft pick Ravel who was still you know,

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Speaker 2: coming back from injury, Trayvon Diggs who's coming back from injury.

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Speaker 2: So now right now you're looking at your secondary if

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Speaker 2: the season started today, would probably look like Kier one side,

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Speaker 2: uh Bland the other side, and then maybe Kemon Hall

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Speaker 2: as your slot cornerback. But it was, it was it

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Speaker 2: this practice knew me. You know, how do you feel

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Speaker 5: That's that line that Dollar Bill said in the Players

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Speaker 5: Club trouble, trouble.

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Speaker 7: Trouble, Well, I mean it goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 4: You already said that it was. It was.

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Speaker 7: It was tough on on the defensive line. So we

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Speaker 7: know with the limited amount of pressure that those guys

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Speaker 7: it on up front. You know, it goes all together.

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Speaker 7: So that's, uh, that's scary. But we already know that

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Speaker 7: you know, we're dealing with some guys have some injuries

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Speaker 7: and and you know we got some new people back there.

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Speaker 7: But hey, like, like like Tray said, you're going up

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Speaker 7: against some different guys. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: you just trying to like like the scheme could come together,

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Speaker 7: but you want to go out there and you want

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Speaker 7: to show what you got and to hear that we

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Speaker 7: didn't show well, and uh yeah, that's that's really concerning

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Speaker 6: It's definitely concerning. Like forget being professional on all that.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, like this, this is where we

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Speaker 6: see the depth. This is where you see the really

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Speaker 6: good teams become great teams to where you could say,

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Speaker 6: oh snap, we gotta dominant in the rough. We gotta

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Speaker 6: with the what they say, uh uh, the best hidden

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Speaker 6: seeing these early practices doing all that, this is what

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Speaker 6: Vanilla is is gonna get.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna get straight back to football. No forty times, no,

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Speaker 4: none of that.

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Speaker 6: And not to see people out here actually competing and

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Speaker 6: stuff like that does make me nervous because it's like, yo,

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Speaker 6: there's the opportunity, Like what's going on in the back end.

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Speaker 6: Do we not have the depth or do you not

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Speaker 6: have that dog mentality? Or like, is everybody waiting waiting

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Speaker 6: and say, oh, we're going to be better when we

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Speaker 6: get these vets back, when we get Digs back, when

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Speaker 6: we get Michael Parsons. No, it shouldn't be that. It

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Speaker 6: should be Hey, I'm trying to step up right now.

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Speaker 6: And I guess that would be my follow up question.

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Speaker 6: I know you got to get going soon, but who

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Speaker 6: is that guy that embraced the opportunity with all these

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Speaker 4: Who is that bright spot?

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Speaker 6: Give us something good to talk about because we've been

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Speaker 6: hearing negative stuff.

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Speaker 5: Okay, he's had a good champ and he's showing you

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Speaker 5: that they took the cheered and they took a good

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Speaker 5: So I will say that let's see what happens Saturday

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Speaker 5: really do a depot. Did they learn and whether the

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Speaker 5: coach is able to coach these guys up and get

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Speaker 5: them on to their uh, you know, get them on

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Speaker 5: to the next level. Because I asked Aaron Whitecott, what

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Speaker 5: are you looking for on on Saturday as the D

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Speaker 5: line coach? And he said, to be able to take

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Speaker 5: what we saw practice where we have to work on

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Speaker 5: it and implement it the game get better at it.

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Speaker 5: And that's gonna to me, that's gonna be And you

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Speaker 5: got playball here, you know, can you coach it? You know,

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Speaker 5: you see an issue, a huge bought, can you coach

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Speaker 5: it up and get better from it? And I think

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Speaker 5: for me that's what I'm looking for Saturday, and he got,

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Speaker 5: how do you how do you rebound from uh struggling

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Speaker 5: on Tuesday against his Rams football team and being ready

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Speaker 5: for the intensity today.

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Speaker 2: Play with all right, now it's something you're about to

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Speaker 2: take off, brother, So we appreciate you jumping on with

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Speaker 2: us before you get on this flight.

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Speaker 3: Have a safe flight, uh, and we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, we'll talk to you laters.

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Speaker 4: Second, Safe travels, bro, save travels. Guess up that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know one of the things that I heard,

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Speaker 2: I got you have to talk to Nate Newton yesterday and.

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Speaker 3: He talked about tempo and speed.

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Speaker 2: He said, you know, when we were out at practice,

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Speaker 2: just regular practice, said the Cowboys kind of had a

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Speaker 2: different tempo, he said, but man Lo and Behold, when

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Speaker 2: the Rams came to town, they had a different tempo

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Speaker 2: and the Cowboys just couldn't match that tempo. And that

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Speaker 2: leads me to believe when it comes to the coaching

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Speaker 2: aspect of this, are the Cowboys on pace to where

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to be to get ready to open up

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Speaker 2: the season. Because if you're talking about you know, another

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Speaker 2: team's come in and they've had such a significant greater

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Speaker 2: pace than you, energy than you, physicalness than you.

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Speaker 6: What what?

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Speaker 3: What's the hole on it? You got? You get your

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Speaker 3: want you to speak on it.

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Speaker 6: We're showing y'all. Are y'all ready to work? Or a

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Speaker 6: But that first game is gonna tell us a lot like, hey,

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Speaker 7: Hey, I was part of a team that actually had

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Speaker 7: So later on they turned into like a great graduation

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Speaker 4: And big fact, this is where you're going to see

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Speaker 4: That was my dog. It was a team man.

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Speaker 6: And right now you're gonna get that eye waking up moment.

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Speaker 4: And the guys that are the real races, what do

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Speaker 6: They take off, they get that last leg like hold on,

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Speaker 6: once you get punched in that mouth. You got punched

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Speaker 4: So it's that time.

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Speaker 2: So, fellas, I brought up a topic as they got

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Speaker 4: What you're putting down.

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Speaker 2: So Brian Schottenheimer coming into this training camp, he was

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Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to go out there and work

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Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing wrong, nothing wrong with Javonte go tar heels,

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00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with bills and you know all that kind

439
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 2: of But I'm just saying, like that, ain't that ain't

440
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 2: the backfield that makes me believe you're gonna really be

441
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 2: a dominant, physical running football team.

442
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 4: Fired? But go ahead, pastor what they say, keep talking

443
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 4: to me.

444
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 3: So when the thing when?

445
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 2: When when the ish hit the fan and you try

446
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 2: to come in against the rams and run the football

447
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 2: physically and oppose your will.

448
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 3: And you could not.

449
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 4: Dang, you fell up with the brakes on them and

450
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 4: you could not.

451
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 3: You said, the hell with it. Here's what I know

452
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 3: I can do and air that thing out.

453
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 2: Was that shoddy showing a little bit of yeah, I'm

454
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 2: saying this over here, But because at the end of

455
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 2: the day, here's what I do know, and here's what

456
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 2: I am confided in. Most teams don't have an answer

457
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: for eighty eight, right, most teams don't have an answer

458
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: for three.

459
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 4: There you go.

460
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: Four will be just fine. As long as he's upright,

461
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: that's something that you're going to have in your bet. Yo,

462
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy's and Yo, those jimmies and Joe's ain't too many catchs.

463
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 2: On the other side, got enough Jimmies and Joe's to

464
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,479
Speaker 2: say otherwise to stop there.

465
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's Shody kind of giving us a little

466
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 3: bit of false talk about this whole running.

467
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: Game thing, because when it all sat and done and

468
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: he got he got upset.

469
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: He said, you're gonna go past his football?

470
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 7: Hey, man, I think that Shody honestly was was was

471
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 7: that was his game plan. I think that originally in

472
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 7: his mind he had the concept that he wanted to

473
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 7: come out here and be a physical, run first football team.

474
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 7: But if that ain't working, then you gotta lean on

475
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 7: what you know is gonna work. And like like like

476
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 7: we said before, if I know I got something proven

477
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 7: in this hand, I really don't need to worry about

478
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 7: too much.

479
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 4: What's over here. That's gonna have me guessing in this hand.

480
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 4: You already mentioned we.

481
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 7: Got Ceedee Lamb out there, all pro receiver, and you

482
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 7: got George Pickens who just came into the fold, who

483
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 7: on most teams is gonna be somebody's number one, not

484
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 7: somebody's number two. So in order to try to balance

485
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 7: the odds a little bit and try to get some

486
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 7: upper hand, if you can somewhere, you're gonna have to

487
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 7: start throwing that ball. You're gonna have to try to

488
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 7: find a place, a way to make a play, or

489
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 7: to say, like what Shaddy said, to find some relief

490
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 7: to stop being upset with what's going on right now.

491
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 7: So you gotta take a shot. So am I thinking

492
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 7: that what he's saying is somewhat like a backpedal out

493
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 7: of what he's now. I don't think he's backpelling. I

494
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 7: think he's just honestly recognizing where the team is right now,

495
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 7: what he has to.

496
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 4: Do with it.

497
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: That's fair.

498
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 6: Man. What he said I might be a walking book

499
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 6: and cliches, but what they say on Friday when the

500
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 6: cops came in there, he said, Man, I know you

501
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 6: ain't gonna rest nobody.

502
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: But I just want you to will beloved.

503
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 6: And so what I like from this, I'm not reading

504
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 6: too much into it, but I like that he's telling us,

505
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 6: he's giving us the coaches answers. But we seen something

506
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 6: that we seen we haven't seen from our Dallas coaches

507
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 6: in a long time, which is that passion having that

508
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 6: Dan Campbell mindset of like you know what, we got

509
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 6: a game plan, but sometimes we just got to go

510
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 6: in there, bite ankles, knees and go in there and

511
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 6: do that and shot he took it, like yo, I'm

512
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 6: tired of it. Is like, hold on, we know this

513
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 6: is prankic, we know it's supposed to be vanilla. But

514
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 6: let me get you about me real quick. Let me

515
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 6: show you when you jabb and he jabbed him up

516
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 6: off of him. But like you said, he whipped a

517
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 6: little something on the way out. But at the end

518
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 6: of the day, I'm not really worried about it. I

519
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 6: don't want you to show your hand too early because

520
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 6: if that, if that was your ace in the hole

521
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 6: and you showed me that and there's nothing else that

522
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 6: can proceed or you know, kind of counterbalance it. It's

523
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 6: gonna make me nervous. But on the top of it,

524
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 6: it's like it's training camp. Then just just punch somebody,

525
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 6: like what the coach saying, Hey, I don't want you

526
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 6: all to fight, but if you fight, hit somebody, Hit

527
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 6: somebody and make it worth it. If we're gonna do

528
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 6: joint practices, man, damn that you got something to prove.

529
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 4: Right now.

530
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 6: We all talk about that people are supposed to be

531
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 6: waiting and stuff like that. People don't play in these

532
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 6: first games. Like no, let's be realistic. At least from

533
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 6: my playing days, everybody played except your prima donnas the

534
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 6: bat And when we say prima donna's, y'all might be offended.

535
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 6: Don't get offended, quarterbacks whatever. But the guys that are

536
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 6: back there in the back end, your qbs, you're running backs,

537
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 6: those are the guys that set out. But in that

538
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 6: trench work, it was a certain bravado that you had

539
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 6: to have amongst yourself, like I'm gonna get my reps in,

540
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 6: young buck, you're gonna get yours in, But let me

541
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 6: show you how I dog this and dominate this so

542
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 6: much that hey, when it comes to the game, the

543
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 6: coach is pulling me back in that front floor, you

544
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 6: pull them back in that front seven. You typically got

545
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: to say, hey, get out there, go ahead and show

546
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 6: us what you got, Like, ain't none of that right now.

547
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 6: So our starters that are the starters need to be

548
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 6: there to help the young guys develop. The guys that

549
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 6: are behind there, they need to be showing up like

550
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 6: this is all hands on deck. This is a new team,

551
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 6: this is injury and unproven. So I need to see

552
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 6: all that, and Shoddy is out here, like, yo, I'm

553
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 6: a new coach. I gotta go out here.

554
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: We need to see this. But also I know there's questions.

555
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 6: I know people are in the media saying I'm not

556
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 6: the sexy hiring this and that He's like, nah, I'm

557
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 6: about to show y'all.

558
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: I'm coming out here and I'm punching it.

559
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 6: So when you say, hey, I'm supposed to do this

560
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 6: and then I seen a little emotion, I love that

561
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 6: because now we've seen that passion, We seen what we

562
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 6: want from a coach, and that lets me know, like,

563
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 6: you got some fight and it's early right now. You

564
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 6: ain't just come out here and say, hey, guys, this

565
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 6: is a it's a joint practice. We don't want to

566
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 6: do this.

567
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they want some We're gonna go back to

568
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 4: the drawing board. Nah. He got up out of his

569
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 4: side his stuff. He said, I got all my composure

570
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 4: and I need to do that.

571
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 6: That's what makes the best football player players because of

572
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 6: the passion being able to channel in and so for

573
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 6: him to do.

574
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: That, I like it.

575
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 7: Shot, show me your dog, you said one of the

576
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 7: most important things just a second ago.

577
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 4: But with the fact that this this whole new coaching staff.

578
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 7: I mean, unless your DAK or CD, everything is up

579
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 7: for grabs, you know, So it's whoever.

580
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 6: Got a multi million dollar contract or if you ain't

581
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 6: a first round pick, I'm gonna tell you like this,

582
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 6: and the way the first round picks are moving nowadays,

583
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 6: your fourth year ain't even guaranteed no more. It used

584
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 6: to be four years is guaranteed. And we knew they

585
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 6: were gonna take the fifth year. Now they started taking

586
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 6: the fifth year. To now we getting it to where

587
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 6: people are trying to put clauses in the contract to

588
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 6: get people out of there their second third year when

589
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 6: they're not productive. This league is starting to get more

590
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 6: and more cutthroat, and when you're not a team that

591
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 6: is run recently and a team that either needs to

592
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 6: be in the media or needs to be winning. Guess

593
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 6: what everything is gonna be questioned and right now in

594
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 6: training camp, these are where the questions get answered. And

595
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 6: if I'm a player, I'm putting up and I'm trying

596
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 6: to show up right now in my best foot forward.

597
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: And in that light.

598
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: So you're using your logic, right, this is where the

599
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: questions get answered. Did we answer the question of this

600
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: Cowboys team being a physical running for.

601
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 6: With getting the questions answers that can't be answered in

602
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 6: one day. You can't be answered in one practice. Yeah,

603
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 6: you have good days and stuff like that. So what

604
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 6: I say, there were some questions that were being answered.

605
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 6: The question we all had on the show before we

606
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 6: came in here. What we said secondary, Well, guess what

607
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 6: KNW We gave us our answer. He said, Elam is

608
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 6: showing up to be that guy. He is being that

609
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 6: bright horse. Not we're not talking about people that are

610
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 6: injured that are not there. We're talking about it available.

611
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 6: He's been that guy. And then for me, I patted

612
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 6: my chest earlier because my teammate, my dog, Solomon Tommins,

613
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 6: I told y'all he's going to be a sleeper horse.

614
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 6: He's a workman in a workman's defense. He's going to

615
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 6: show us something. And guess what he answered that question

616
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 6: so far. Now guess what is still time. We still

617
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 6: got two more preseason games, so these questions can continue

618
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 6: to evolve. So I am happy about certain things, but

619
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 6: there's other things I want to know.

620
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Now, my question was going to be to you

621
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 7: and just to get your evaluation on it, and so

622
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 7: the people, so the fans can understand too as well,

623
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 7: Like we've talked about it, but like what would your

624
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 7: approach be and what was your approach in these joint

625
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 7: practices as a guy who say, wasn't a top draft pick,

626
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 7: but you know, you're trying to make the squad.

627
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: You know, like what shed some light on how you?

628
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was killed everything right, Okay, that

629
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: was That's been my mentality since since jump right, because

630
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: I knew the only way for me to because I

631
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: wasn't I was, I was probably one of the biggest,

632
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: wasn't the fastest. I didn't come in with a lot

633
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: of draft I didn't have a bunch of guaranteed money

634
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: had had to held my way. I didn't I didn't

635
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: have all of the people in the front office backing me, right.

636
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: I had one dude who was really on my side.

637
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Jody Camillis was my special team's coach, right, and so

638
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: Jody would tell me.

639
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: Jody would tell me, Dag, listen, I got your back.

640
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: You have my say less.

641
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: So when I when it came down punt team, kickoff team, kickoff,

642
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: return team, return team, you felt one six. You felt

643
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: me every single time. You know what I'm saying, So

644
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: like what it was personal protective wing. I'm R five

645
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: L five and this was we had four man wedges,

646
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: three man.

647
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, let's I gotta take you. Know what

648
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I got it right before that.

649
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm like, that was my mentality when

650
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: I got a chance, when I got a chance to

651
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: go out there.

652
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: Whether it was scout team, whether it was in the rotation,

653
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: that's what you're getting you all right, Every rep count.

654
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: And my thing was not that I was looking for

655
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: a fight, not that I'm the toughest dude or that

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Speaker 2: I'm the baddest dude, whatever, but if me having to

657
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Speaker 2: fight you to get this money, or them cutting me

658
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Speaker 2: because I didn't go hard at you listen, but we

659
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Speaker 2: got to fight there, it's gonna be thirty seconds however

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Speaker 2: it goes. However this goal, it's gonna be thirty say

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Speaker 2: before they break this up. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't about being but it was for me.

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Speaker 2: I was always one hundred. It was one hundred miles

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Speaker 2: an hour, no matter what.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, you like what people don't.

666
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Speaker 6: It brings me to another point that they don't pick

667
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Speaker 6: up is when you going in that fight.

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Speaker 4: Mentality, you're going and doing all that.

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Speaker 6: You have to do so good right now to where

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Speaker 6: when these big name players come back, your Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 6: your did Is come back, they're gonna get their reps,

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Speaker 6: they're going to be guaranteed the spot.

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Speaker 4: These guys we know are going to be here.

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Speaker 6: You got to do so good because guess what, right now,

675
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Speaker 6: people are trying to see other things.

676
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Speaker 4: They're playing their backup.

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Speaker 6: So just because you think you're making them plays right now,

678
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Speaker 6: you might go out there and be what they say,

679
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: a preseason all American, but in all actuality, the coaches

680
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Speaker 6: and stuff have you slotted as a four string guy,

681
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Speaker 6: special teams guy, or a guy that's going to be

682
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Speaker 6: a practice squad guy that can develop We want to

683
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 6: keep you here, but we're not there. So you have

684
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Speaker 6: to get so much extra leg room right now to one.

685
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Speaker 6: We're not talking about we're talking about potentially earning the spot.

686
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Speaker 6: We're talking about solidifying yourself to where you give yourself

687
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Speaker 6: enough of a lead stretch on these guys that are

688
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Speaker 6: coming back to where you can get that, because, like

689
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Speaker 6: you said, it's a different day and age when it

690
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Speaker 6: comes to special teams. Now, people aren't hidting, it's not

691
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: things are starting to get fair catch, so it's not

692
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Speaker 6: as a high demand versus back in the day you

693
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Speaker 6: had a guy that made his name on special teams.

694
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Speaker 6: Then from that the next year or the next game,

695
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Speaker 6: he's in there being a playmaker. It was the physicality,

696
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 6: he's doing everything right there. You don't have all that

697
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Speaker 6: in that totality. It's very short now. And what guys

698
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Speaker 6: need to know is you make the team on special team,

699
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Speaker 6: that one guy that's fighting on you. When you said hey,

700
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Speaker 6: it was my special team coach, he had to come

701
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Speaker 6: in there and say hey, Like for me it was

702
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Speaker 6: Larry Izo. He came in there and looked at me

703
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Speaker 6: and de Boy and said, yeah, you're third round picking

704
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Speaker 6: this and that. But you know, you gotta play the

705
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Speaker 6: game within the game, play chest, not check it. What

706
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Speaker 6: do you want to do? I want to get on

707
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Speaker 6: the field and pass rush. Okay, well you know you

708
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Speaker 6: got to get on the field to even earn the

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Speaker 6: opportunity to do that, right.

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Speaker 4: I said? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Cool? He said, you know what if you really the

712
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Speaker 6: dog that you think you are, how you feel about

713
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Speaker 6: playing gunner?

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Speaker 4: What defensive end?

715
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Speaker 6: What six something two hundred and fifty pounds coming out

716
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Speaker 6: there to sixty playing gunner? Yeah, let me go a hand, dude,

717
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Speaker 6: let me keep but being anominally like, how can I

718
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 6: get out there and make myself more valuable? And when

719
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Speaker 6: you build that value, that's when it's like you get

720
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Speaker 6: those opportunities. So I hope these guys are doing that.

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Speaker 6: So when we talk about your elungs, your Solomon Thomas's,

722
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Speaker 6: I know Solomon is going out there and doing it

723
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Speaker 6: every position on that special team. So I want to

724
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Speaker 6: know who are these other guys? And that's what I'm

725
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Speaker 6: gonna be paying attention to this weekend.

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Speaker 4: And that's it.

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Speaker 2: In this business, we call that a great tease because

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Speaker 2: what I have for this final feak well take a break,

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Speaker 2: is that as we're heading in the preseason game number one.

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Speaker 2: What are some guys, maybe some positions that you're looking

731
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Speaker 2: at to go out there and kind of show themselves

732
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Speaker 2: worthy of an opportunity to gain some more reps, to

733
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Speaker 2: move up that depth charge, and just to talk about

734
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Speaker 2: what these preseason games mean for the guys who aren't

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons and Cede Lambs and George Pickens of the world,

736
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Speaker 2: what these games actually mean to them. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: back here, hopefully as a full squad.

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Speaker 3: Next week.

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Speaker 2: I'll transition back to hanging with the boys with Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: Shannon Gross, Kirk Daniels.

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Speaker 4: But as we get Hey, let me join your show.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put that out there right now. We're live,

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Speaker 4: y'all seeing it. Bring me on you.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what do you saying on the von Nels Show

796
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Speaker 6: with Martin Lewin? Hey, I want to take some of

797
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Speaker 6: your catfish politics right now? Let me come to your

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Speaker 6: show with the big guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't know we got wrong.

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Speaker 4: I heard got it back there just swimming in the lake.

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Speaker 4: But that's let's get back to this.

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Speaker 3: We got catfish it. Oh yeah, we got the right

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Speaker 3: in the back. You know what I'm saying. Friday dyed

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Speaker 3: led to the side, red.

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Speaker 4: Be's and great, Okay, pull up, I got you. You

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Speaker 4: got me right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, pull up on us?

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Speaker 4: Pull up and how Martin, don't make me pull up

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Speaker 4: on us?

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Speaker 9: What have you?

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Speaker 3: Our show was full though, but you can pull up

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Speaker 3: on us.

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Speaker 4: We'll have you as a guest now the show full man.

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Speaker 4: We got we got a four man team.

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Speaker 3: Me shinning, Nate Kirk, bro you've been a you've been

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Speaker 3: that guy.

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Speaker 4: You know how it goes. You go to the VP

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Speaker 4: line and say, uh we fool. Now that ain't my dog?

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Speaker 4: Come with me?

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Speaker 3: So, no, you could come on the show. I just

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Speaker 3: I don't have the power to kick nobody off the show.

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Speaker 6: I ain't say kick him off the show. I said,

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Speaker 6: I want to be there with everybody. Yeah, come on,

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Speaker 6: I want to go up there.

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Speaker 3: Just just oh yeah, I got I got I got

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Speaker 3: that kind of pooll.

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Speaker 4: I just want to get that.

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Speaker 3: Kay, I got that kind of pooll. Okay, I got

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Speaker 3: that kind of pool. Yeah, don't give me. J Holly

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Speaker 3: got low pull around.

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Speaker 4: I heard I heard him.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Jay Holly got a little bit of pull around here.

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Speaker 4: I've been.

834
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Speaker 3: I've been around these part fifteen plus years. I gotta

835
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Speaker 3: make a couple of phone calls.

836
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Speaker 4: We'll talk to him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I canna be a couple full.

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Speaker 4: He will have me on another show.

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Speaker 2: All right, But the Cowboys, Uh, I got another show

840
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Speaker 2: for you too. You know what now you're talking?

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Speaker 3: You know no, you don't talk just right to another

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Speaker 3: show you, Hey boy, this shows I talked to you.

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00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: I talk to you, okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys are heading into preseason game number one, against

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Speaker 2: the La Rams this Saturday, six pm.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is this is the kind of the kickoff, right.

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Speaker 2: We've been in OTA's, We've had the draft, we've had

848
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: all the conversations that have surrounded the Cowboys. We've seen

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00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: the jointed, padded practice. But as we get into the game,

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00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: the live action coaches get y'all butt on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: We ain't doing all this scripted stuff. Ain't all the

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Speaker 2: do over stuff. You got to go out there and

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Speaker 2: play the game. Who are some of the guys or

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Speaker 2: some of the positions that you're looking at to go

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00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: out there and show themselves worthy of maybe getting a

856
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Speaker 2: spot on the roster, moving up the depth chart or

857
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Speaker 2: showing us I am here.

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Speaker 3: Let me show y'all. I'm like that Anthony.

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Speaker 7: For me, it's it's it's it's what I you know,

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Speaker 7: I've always believe the Cowboys are built off for two things,

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Speaker 7: and me growing up just being a Cowboy fan my

862
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 7: whole life. Running backs, solid running game and that doomsday

863
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: defense today used to talk about all the time. So

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Speaker 7: for me, it's going to honestly see like it's going

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Speaker 7: to be like I want to see this running back

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Speaker 7: committee and if it's going to be running back by committee.

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Speaker 7: I want to see that if it's going to be

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Speaker 7: one dude that's going to step up and show that

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Speaker 7: he could be the workhorse, I want to see what's

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Speaker 7: going to happen there. And then the questions that we're

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Speaker 7: already dealing with in the secondary as well. You know,

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Speaker 7: kyer Elam is here, he stepped up, he's been playing well,

873
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 7: He's had an awesome camp. I want to see him

874
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 7: continue to do that, you know, because if he can,

875
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 7: honestly you resurrect his career here and turn that thing

876
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 7: into like him digs and bland out there, you got

877
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 7: three solid dudes out there that can literally go out there.

878
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: And ball Donald Donald on the cornerback though he said.

879
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 7: So, I'm talking about the corners, but but for me,

880
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 7: that's where it's going to start. I want to see

881
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 7: the running backs. I want to see how this run

882
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 7: game is gonna come together. That's gonna be a part

883
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 7: of the offense line of course, and I want to

884
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 7: see what's.

885
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Go saying right now far as the running backs you're

886
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: talking about, from the way that the the the Cowboys,

887
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: they had their unofficial depth chart come out the other

888
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: day and they had it as Javonte Williams, they had

889
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders, and then they had Jayden Blue. I saw

890
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 2: earlier today Deuce Vaughn has come back into the fold.

891
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: He's back off the hamstring injury. He needs this, he

892
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: needs this work. Of course, Hannter Lipke will be in

893
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: that mix as well as well as Phil Maffa. So

894
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: there are a lot of running backs and I don't

895
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: know how much the Miles Sanders has been out for

896
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: a couple of days, so I don't know if he's

897
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: actually gonna play in the game. But that running back crew,

898
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot of unproving guys who need to kind

899
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: of this is a bunch step race in the running

900
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: back room. It's a bunch step race in the running

901
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: back room. A lot of guys have to prove themselves

902
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: to be worthy of the reps that they want to

903
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: get this upcoming season. The mantra, who was some guys

904
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 2: a position that you're looking at.

905
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 6: The positions I'm gonna probably be looking at it, and

906
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 6: we all know where I'm going.

907
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: Everything's won in the trenches.

908
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 6: I want to see this trench warfare because, like I said,

909
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 6: if we can't keep back up, none of the weapon's

910
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 6: gonna be good over there.

911
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: If we ain't got a good offensive line.

912
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 6: Guess what, we ain't gona see none of these running

913
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 6: backs being able to be running back by committee, or

914
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 6: guess what, whoever we if we do have a bell cow,

915
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: guess what that bell cow is gonna get his bell

916
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 6: rung a little bit too much early to where he

917
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 6: doesn't lie. So I'm looking at the offensive line. I'm looking,

918
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: like I said, I'm looking to see football like who

919
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 6: can build value right now and say I don't care,

920
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 6: Like I want to see that first moment of adversity

921
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 6: and say, hey, I'm dropping it. I'm putting it right

922
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 6: here in the saying, and we're going by. I need

923
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 6: my offensive line. I need them to be nasty. I

924
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 6: need them to go out there and turn this up.

925
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 6: I want to go see this defensive line. I want

926
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 6: to see y'all go hunt with also seeing y'all hunt.

927
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to just see y'all out here getting

928
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 6: sacks and tackles and stuff. I want to see who's

929
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 6: going to be making the plays on special teams, because

930
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 6: most likely that's where we're going.

931
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: To see you at.

932
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 6: Whoever is the defensive end. Yeah, we know Michael's gonna

933
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 6: be over here. Then we're gonna have whoever's there, but

934
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 6: that second guy, that third guy. You're going to be

935
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 6: on special team. So I want to see who's going

936
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 6: to be out there not only making the special teams

937
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 6: play or the defensive plays, because there's always going to

938
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 6: be somebody that we get excited about. We like, hey,

939
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 6: let's see him against starts, let's see him against that.

940
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 6: But the guy that is making and not only the

941
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: defensive plays, but also making the crazy special team play

942
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: like those highlight plays taking them back for a touchdown.

943
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 6: I'm talking about going down there and smacking somebody and

944
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 6: making him drop the ball like where he's playing it

945
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: like it's a defensive rep. Those are the guys where

946
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like, hey, he got dog, he got fight,

947
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 6: he got skilled schematics gonna come later on he can

948
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 6: develop into those guys. And that typically comes from your

949
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 6: front seven on the D line, your defensive ends, your

950
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: linebackers showing those athletic guys. And if we see a

951
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 6: big guy out there, a d tackle that can potentially

952
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 6: add value by running down on kickoff and stuff like that,

953
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: Like there's going to be some athletic plays if you

954
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 6: know where to look. So I'm going to be more

955
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 6: interested to look at the old line and look at

956
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 6: the special team play.

957
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: For me, I'm looking player specific. I'm looking to go.

958
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: I like Sam Williams. This is a guy who's been

959
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: here for a while. And the one thing that from

960
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: when you look at Sam Williams, he's never lacked the talent.

961
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: He's like the discipline, right to do things, and then

962
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: he's been hurt. And this is a guy who's in

963
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 2: a contract year. We're talking about Mike and some other guys.

964
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: Sam Williams is in the contract year, so I'll be

965
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: looking for see. You know, he's talked a lot this

966
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: off season, and I like some of the things that

967
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: he said. He talked about, you know, I had to

968
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: eliminate some of the distractions of my life. I got

969
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: rid of some close friends and family. I've learned how

970
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: to say no. I've learned how to turn my life

971
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: into much more of a professional thing. So I want

972
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: to see if that mentality has now translated over into

973
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: the football field and if he can go out there

974
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: and make some plays, because if he can, if a

975
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: guy likes Sam Williams with his ability, his size, his power,

976
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: his speed, his strength. Then that gives you another one

977
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: of those guys in that rotation up front and that

978
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: defensive line that whether Mike is there or not, you

979
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: can have a solid front.

980
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 4: And we are not to cut you off. Sorry about that.

981
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: You good, but we all know that that third guy

982
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 6: is really will make everything go around. Like you have

983
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: your you have your Batman, you have your Robbin, but

984
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 6: that third gadget defensive end, like that's who's that's the

985
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 6: guy where like we don't lose a drop off when

986
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: he comes there and the next thing you know, he

987
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 6: goes out the next year and get a fifty million

988
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 6: dollar contract thirty million. He might not be the highest

989
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 6: he might he might not be one hundred million dollar guy,

990
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 6: but you showed those those qualities and being a backup,

991
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 6: like being a young veteran that's been here, that's proven,

992
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 6: that goes off and play. You had guys like I

993
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 6: don't want to say milite Collins because he's been killing

994
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 6: since day one, but those guys that it was like, hey,

995
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: people were talking about Tyrone Crawford, d Law and stuff

996
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 6: like that. Then you had a Malite Collins come in

997
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 6: there and kill and then all of a sudden he

998
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 6: goes to another team, he gets paid. He's been a

999
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 6: starter and been a perennial starter for a year and

1000
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 6: the year out. So when you talk about Sam Williams,

1001
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: I'm not about to lie and say, oh, I'm very

1002
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 6: familiar with this game, and you know that I need

1003
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 6: make me familiar with your game, make me believe everything

1004
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 6: everybody else is talking about, because we're talking about is

1005
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 6: potential and stuff that hasn't happened.

1006
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, potential get your fire a lot of times.

1007
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1008
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: One of the presser bus pipes and the other guy

1009
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking at, I'm I am president of the team,

1010
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: Jack Samborn, Jake Sambory, Jack Sanborn. I'm president of the

1011
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: Samborn fan club.

1012
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: You can't even get it right.

1013
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm president of the I'm president of the Samborn fan Club.

1014
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: But I gotta see my dog go out there. I

1015
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: have no history with Samborn.

1016
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: He's just one of the guys that I when I

1017
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: look at football players, especially on the defensive side, sometimes

1018
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: you just need football playing dudes.

1019
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1020
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: He might not be the biggest, the strongest, the fastest.

1021
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: You know, it reminds me of Angelino. That's a guy

1022
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: that Detroit Lions Angelina. And he's just a football player, dude.

1023
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: He just shows up every single week. He's just out

1024
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: there making plays, playing with his hair on fire. And

1025
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: and for for for Samborn, I need him to be

1026
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: that for the Cowboys. I don't need you to be sexy.

1027
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: I don't need you to be out of this world.

1028
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: I just need you to be a football playing, destructive dude.

1029
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: And so I want to see him out there on

1030
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: this defense and at that lineback and cores, just creating

1031
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: have it.

1032
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: Do you think he's gonna do that? I do you do?

1033
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: I do think that.

1034
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: I do?

1035
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: I do think that.

1036
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 6: You know you said, I know, we all say what

1037
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 6: we want to see. Let's be realistic off of what

1038
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 6: you've seen and what you heard so far. I do

1039
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 6: you think he's gonna be there?

1040
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be your prototypical white linebacker.

1041
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 4: And if anybody knows the shan Lee all those guys.

1042
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna put him on that level. No no, no,

1043
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: no no, put him on that level. Only different. Okay,

1044
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: that with my teammates different bring.

1045
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 4: He was gonna put me back.

1046
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 6: No, no, no, but no, but hold on, hear me

1047
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 6: out when I say this, though, when I say now,

1048
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 6: I did say he's going to be there.

1049
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: On that talent. But I'm talking about that mindset.

1050
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: Correct.

1051
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 6: When you said Sean Lee, everybody knew he was going

1052
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 6: to know his assignment. It was gonna run full ye

1053
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: and he gonna hit it even if his arm is broken,

1054
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 6: like yeah, cast off Blue Mountain State.

1055
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: He boom, yes.

1056
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 6: And so that's what I say, that mindset. I didn't

1057
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 6: say time, okay, so let me finish it, let grandma come.

1058
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 6: But you think for you to say that when you

1059
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 6: say that about linebacking corps, that's all I think about

1060
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 6: when Cowboys, when they were at their their peak, they

1061
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 6: had those guys back there where it was like we

1062
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 6: had the sexy players in the front. You had the

1063
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: Greg elisis the Marcus where uh shoot, he can keep

1064
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 6: going on. Other guys in front exactly spears all those

1065
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 6: like those were the names that we talked about, but

1066
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 6: you had guys on that back end that were the

1067
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 6: smart guys that were the workhorse. And so for you

1068
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 6: to say that the Cowboys finally have that workhorse and

1069
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 6: if he's durable, that's what that's what I feel like,

1070
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 6: that's been the missing piece of the defense for years.

1071
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 7: It made me think about your boy that way. Yes,

1072
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 7: first person carrying to my mind, and that.

1073
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 6: Was great in his own retrospect, but you got lost

1074
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 6: between behind the star power. But everybody knows that Dad

1075
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 6: was out there chasing it to a lot of these

1076
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 6: guys that matter.

1077
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: For you to say he's going to be that prototypical linebacker,

1078
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 4: I'm like.

1079
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: Okay, said white linebacker. I'll say it for you.

1080
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: I mean my white line white linebacker, whatever the case

1081
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 4: would be. You know what I'm saying.

1082
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 6: But yes, when you when you say that, that that

1083
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 6: that's that backbone of the defense. Like it's always been

1084
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 6: this backbone in the defense, and so who's going to

1085
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 6: be that backbone?

1086
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: So I'm curious about that.

1087
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Speaker 6: So when you say that, I'm really excited, especially hearing

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Speaker 6: that coming from a person of your caliber. We all

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Speaker 6: know that we judge our positions way harder than anybody else.

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Speaker 4: So for you to give him that praise.

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Speaker 3: Watch him, watch watch him.

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Speaker 6: Why I am appreciated. If not, I'm promising I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: send you a text would be what they say, we're

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Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna have that that paper right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine with me.

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Speaker 4: You gonna have to answer the call, that's fine with me.

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Speaker 3: I'll definitely take it.

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Speaker 4: Mister Sam Sam Bonn.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, let's go baby, white linebacker with the

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Speaker 2: hump and the crooked nose right there.

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Speaker 6: If it ain't black face out linebacker, I don't want to.

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about the guys that paint up everything.

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Speaker 2: Go to war?

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Speaker 6: What what the what?

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Speaker 4: What Jarry? What Jerry used to say back in the day.

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Speaker 4: If it ain't an award, daddy.

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Speaker 2: I don't want I'm with you, all right, fellas, that's

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Speaker 2: our show. I appreciate you guys. Let me rock with

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Speaker 2: you this week.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: For sure, I'm gonna get you on. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: you hang with the boys. I might have something else

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Speaker 3: for you. It might have I guess you know.

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Speaker 2: Get some of them good good, good good quality raps. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that good good stuff, that good stuff, man, all right.

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Speaker 2: Man for Barry Church, for new Scruts, for Demante, for Anthony.

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Speaker 2: I am Jesse Holly and this is the players. Long

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Speaker 2: see you guys next time.

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