WEBVTT - Two Things Can Be True At The Same Time Part 1 [The Mini-Series] (Normalizing the In-Betweens and Healing From Extremism) (Outweigh) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.520 I won't let my body out be outwait everything that 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.960 I'm made done, won't spend my life trying to change. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.920 I'm learning love who I am. I I'm strong, I 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.800 feel free, I know every part of me. It's beautiful. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:24.439 And then will always out way if you feel it, 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.400 but you are She'll some love to the h have there, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:34.960 take you one day and did you and die out way? 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.760 Happy Saturday outweigh amy here and I have Leanne Ellington 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.519 joining me. And the fun part of saying that is 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.560 that Leanne is going to be joining me well sort 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.280 of indefinitely at this point. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:47.959 Yeah. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:52.120 She did a little takeover for us, and I say little. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.720 I'm not making it small by any means, but it 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.520 was about four weeks five I think, yeah, okay, hey, 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:59.960 who's counting? Apparently I am I take. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:01.600 Over and it went really well. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.040 And Leanne and I have just been talking about what 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.959 it could look like if we do some episodes together 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.319 and then she has some interviews she would love to do, 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.679 so I guess welcome my new co host, Thanks Leanne Ellington, 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.760 and we're going to do a little mini series called 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.680 two Things Can Be True at the same time, which 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.880 we've talked about that here on outway before, but we're 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.520 going to focus on specific things, two different things each 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.120 each episode that can be true at the same time 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.640 themes I guess in that space. We'll do four weeks 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.480 that and then Lane's got some fun interviews that she's 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.000 going to have for y'all, and then we'll do another 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:39.840 four weeks of two things can be true at the 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.160 same time. So today we're going to start with you 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.360 can be pro body image and pro self worth and 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:51.160 body positive and still have health goals you want to reach. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.080 And Leanne has a very personal story related to this 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:59.560 because you have your backstory of your disordered behaviors and 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.320 then you know, being in recovery and then while you 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.760 were turning forty, So I'll let you take it from 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.760 there of what popped up for you when that time came. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.320 Yeah, and it's such an interesting topic too, because you know, 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:12.880 we've talked about this a lot. There's a lot of 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.679 extremism out there of you know, the good, the bad, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.000 the right, the wrong, and I really believe there is 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.400 the gray that we have permission to fill in you. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.520 So when Lisa and I started this, we actually defined 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.320 it as the gray area, but it's so much of 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.760 what people are not talking abouts. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.240 And our first graphic. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.600 For the the podcast was black and white, but it 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:36.440 kind of looked gray. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:37.919 Yeah, you know what I mean. I love it, so 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.560 was it, I guess to my pressure wasn't. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.120 Black and white, but we were kind of wanted to 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.440 have that vibe of gray. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:45.720 Yeah, for sure. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.960 And we should definitely do an episode about living in 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.240 the gray because sometimes that can that can keep us 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.919 complacent as well. But that's another topic for another day. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.720 But that being said, there's you know, extremism. I think 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.440 that's one of the things that I've had to really 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.880 heal from over the years, and it comes alongside perfectionism 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.760 a lot, but this concept of you know, and for 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.320 anybody who's not heard my story, and you know, I 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.280 had many, many years of disordered eating and self image 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.680 and body image struggles that really took over my life. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.880 And when I decided to heal all of the things 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.840 that used to be kind of a golden carrot for me, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.919 all the things externally that were driving me that were 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.959 really defining myself worth, like what I ate that day, 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.000 and my gene size and my scale weight and how 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.800 I looked and all of those things that I mean, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.600 there is a time and place for them, but when 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.520 they consume your every thought, that is disorder, right, and 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.080 that can lead to so much toxicity. And for me, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.600 it manifested in a very ubercritical, you know, harsh relationship 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.240 with myself in turn with others and all the things. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.000 So all that's to say, when I did commit myself 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.320 to this new way of being, in this healed version 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.280 of myself, all of that went on the back burner 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.080 and I was super happy about that. Right, And we 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.200 should also do an episode of the dark side of 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.520 too much confidence, because there's you know, things that you 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.920 can let fall by the wayside and and other habits 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.760 that can take over. But I'll bring it back streamlined 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.000 to this topic. You know what happened in my real life. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.200 I turned forty a few months ago, and sixteen months 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.480 before that, I realized I was turning forty, and I 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.160 just said to myself, I'm like, who do you want 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.240 to be when you turn forty? 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.120 How do you want to feel? 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:17.880 The big thing for me is I didn't want to 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.480 buy into the myth that like everything goes downhill and 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.200 you age in a negative fashion. I was like, no, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.960 I want to be my healthiest, my happiest. I want 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.240 to feel amazing. I want to have more impact all 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.000 of the things that we think about when we get 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.000 in those existential conversations. But then on a practical level, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.280 it dawned me. I was like, you know what, I 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.919 would love to prove to myself because pain is also 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.039 a big part of my backstory, literally and figuratively. I 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.920 had major spine surgery that caused a lot of neurological 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.719 struggles and a lot of chronic pain. So being strong 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.400 and fit and healthy had very new definitions to me 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.120 than they did ten to fifteen years ago. But that 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.400 being said, I was like, who do I want to 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.560 be and what's the body I want to be living 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.240 in at forty And it included things like pain free. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.960 Of course, like the human side of me was like, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.400 I want to feel amazing in a bikini at forty, 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.200 you know. And so I just started thinking, like, how 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.960 can two things be true at the same time. How 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.719 can I still maintain this healthy, loving relationship with my 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.680 body and this really freedom but also you know, peaceful 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.279 relationship with food and freedom can have two sides of 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.320 it too, right, there's too much permission and too much 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.000 control and all the things. So we have to find 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.800 our own own definition of that. But how can I 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.240 have that and also up level my health and my 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.640 discipline and utilize and leverage things that might have once 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.719 been a weapon and now use them as a tool 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.280 to go focus on things that I may have put 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.600 in the category of superficial because at the time, again 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.720 I was using them as a weapon. Little side note, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.479 there's an entire episode on that way a few weeks 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.839 ago about the distinction between using things between a tool 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.000 and a weapon. But that's been such a powerful tool, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.480 no pun intended, because you know now this thing that 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.200 was once like kind of my nemesis. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.800 It took me down this rabbit hole. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.000 I was like, Okay, what would be possible if two 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.480 things could be true with the same time. I can 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.120 be healthy and free and love who I am and 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.240 want to like and trust my body even more. And 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.640 so it sent me on this journey which we're going 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.320 to unravel over the coming weeks and all of that. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.200 But that's kind of the cliff notes version. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.520 Of what was the evidence of this subject matter. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.599 I feel like an example that pops into my head 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.520 about where I am now is before I got into recovery. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.080 I was tracking everything. I knew how many carbs I had, 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.880 how much protein, how many calories, how much fat, whatever, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:34.800 macros right right, So I was tracking those, but I 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.599 was coming at it from the wrong place. I was 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.479 not tracking to be the healthiest version of myself. I 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.480 was tracking so I could control it, and it was 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.279 all consuming and if I deviated from it, I didn't 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.120 really know how to proceed with my day. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:53.120 I would lose sleep over it. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:59.000 I would be dividing an egg into eights, like, oh, 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.159 I had these waffles and there was one egg, but 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.760 I only had one waffle and it made six, So 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.840 how many eggs did I have? 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.320 Yeah? 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.360 That sort of stuff for sure, which is exhausting. So 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.000 where I am now, over three years out from that, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.920 now in my forties, being forty two, and thinking of 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.080 how my body composition is and how my body is 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.760 aging and it but biologically it doesn't have to as 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:31.320 quickly as my chronological age. We can control that. And 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.440 so I am starting to get more curious about, well, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.400 how much protein am I having a day? 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:36.960 Totally? 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.200 And maybe I need to start really tracking that. But 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.400 it's so freeing because I am holding onto it loosely 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.920 and it's more data than it is control. And so 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.679 that is an example of wanting to have some health 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:59.920 goals but still being in this free space where I'm 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.200 I'm caring for myself in a loving way and not 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.040 caring about the things I used to care about. But 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.200 I can have health goals. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.560 Amazing, totally. Yeah. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.520 Now I could see myself tracking more of that information, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.600 but not losing sleep over it, not dividing eggs, not 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.600 having to track every single day, not having to get 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.640 it one hundred percent right because it may change point 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.440 whatever on the scale. Do you know what I mean? 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.720 Absolutely? Yeah, And you bring up another distinction. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.920 One of the things we talk about with my clients 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.120 is this difference between influence versus control, Right, And the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.960 more we try to control, ironically, the more out of 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:35.920 control we feel. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:36.280 Right. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.520 So control is obviously not the solution, but we think 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.520 we want more control. But what if it was about 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.160 influence influencing who you're being around the thing? In this case, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.040 it's the food, the macro, the whatever, influencing who you're 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:48.600 being so that you're showing up as the version of 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.280 yourself that makes decisions in alignment with who you want 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.720 to be so influencing who you want to be versus 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.280 controlling the thing. And that's a gain that you can 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.160 win because you do have the ability to influence who 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.240 you're being when things are going right or not going great. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.360 And it's it is that distinction between there's the data 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.440 of the macro versus the drama of the macro and 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.160 all of these again distinctions within distinctions. But coming back 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.240 full circle to this topic, like the blanket statement, if 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.320 I were to cliff notes it, we all have our 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.520 different version of this story. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.880 But like I believe, we have the ability to. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.000 Give ourself pruistion to say, you know what, I can 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.319 have a healthy, happy relationship with my body and food, 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.840 and I can have health goals, weight loss goals, all that, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.760 But the difference is is who you're being when you're 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.160 doing the doing. So the big thing I kind of 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.160 share with my clients on the front end is it's 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.360 not wrong to want to go lose weight or be 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.520 fitter or healthier or whatever fill in the blank. But 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.960 I do invite women especially that are struggling with some 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.520 sort of disordered behavior or the negative self image and 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.680 body image that usually comes alongside those habits to kind 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:57.960 of take a sabbatical from those typical goals and heal first. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.800 Right, you know, which was to the why I shared. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.360 Three and a half years have passed and I'm just 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.200 now to the point where I could track it. I'm 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.960 so glad you touched on that because I'm like, so 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.840 much work went into where I am now. It's not 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.319 just that you listen to this and like, oh, well 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.120 land a name, you said that I can wake up 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.480 tomorrow and be body positive and have health goals, right, 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.320 because your brain is not there yet. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.800 Yeah, You've got to become the version of yourself that 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.079 can have that kind of conversation where those health goals 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.800 can be a tool to serve you and move you 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.040 forward and influence your life versus a weapon against yourself. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.680 Something that just popped into my head too is old 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.160 me because I know how I was would have heard 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.560 this and used it as permission to create a bunch 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.800 of health goals. Totally yeah, right, but I do you 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.240 were you that way? Oh a thousand persons, I hear 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.920 certain things and I'm like, oh, what I'm doing. It's 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.240 totally acceptable because this person said that, and I'm going 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.200 to make it fit into this little box that I'm 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:54.840 going to control. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.840 Oh yeah, we bargain with ourselves. Oh yeah, for sure. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:59.760 And that's why it's so important. It's like none of 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.400 these things are bad or wrong, and two of these 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.400 things can exist at the same time. They can both 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.000 be true. But start from a place of carve out 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.560 your freedom, carve out true health. And when I say health, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.600 I mean it physically and mentally, emotionally, spiritually, socially, all 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.240 of it right, and then go bring that with you 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.120 into your goals, your health journey, all of that, but 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.400 start at a true definition of health, but instead of 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.439 that place of disorder. And if you are in disorder, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.520 there's no shame in that. Like you know, you and 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.679 I have both been there and we talked to the 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.360 hundred thousands of women all the time that are But 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.520 just knowing what that is and where you are in 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.800 your journey before you go take on that next goal 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.720 is everything again. Awareness, awareness, right, being aware that you 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.280 have the ability to be aware of Okay, this isn't 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.240 bad that I want to go lose weight, but this 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:46.959 isn't the time. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.080 I'm not in that place. Have you ever used magic eraser? Oh? 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.760 The thing that yeah, them I was just. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.920 Using one the other day and something just popped into 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.080 my head as sort of a I like imagining stuff 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.800 and analogies, and you know, there's some scuffs on my 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.560 wall or wherever. I'm trying to get stuff out, and 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.920 it takes several tries with the magic eraser. Eventually it 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.319 goes away and I have a clean slate. But some 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.040 stuff is kind of stubborn and it's not something that 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.120 I can take a rag to and go. It takes 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.040 the magic eraser, and I don't know what the magic is, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.760 but it's almost like we have our own magic erasers. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.200 So I want you to picture that, like for years 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.680 you've been operating a certain way, and that's what's on 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.920 the wall right now, and that you're going to take 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.079 the time with your magic eraser and you're going to 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.400 go after it, go after it, and eventually your wall 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.079 is going to be a clean slate and you get 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.560 to build a new story, which is the new narrative. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.360 But it takes time and sometimes some elbow grease and 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.800 you got to get in and do it. But it 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.640 is it's like magic. Once you're on. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.680 The other side, you're like wow, yeah, and now you 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.360 can have conversations, and I think just to stack on 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.920 what you just said, because I love that analogy you said, 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.280 like you're magic, like finding your version of your magic 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:04.680 recipe and a racer. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.240 So what's a race for you? 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.640 Or how you got it to race? May not work 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:09.640 for me. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.800 And the dirt on my wall is different than the 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:13.480 dirt on yours. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.680 And we've talked before about pendulum swinging so far one direction, 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.800 and I feel like for me, I was so far 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.600 one way with my disordered behaviors that when I got 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.600 or I wanted to change, I swung so far the 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.440 other direction that it was probably more obnoxious that way, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.160 but it was necessary. And then eventually I leveled out 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.000 and now I'm not obnoxious on either side, at least 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.120 I try not to be. But you'll you'll find that 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.600 balance that feels really right and good. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.120 Absolutely, that pendulum is a perfect picture of it. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:47.360 You know. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.520 I was that gal that judged people at the supermarket 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.280 when I saw them buying fattening stuff air quotes fattening 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:53.200 stuff back in the day. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.000 And then I was the one that's like, everybody eat 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.800 chocolate chip cookies all day every day. You know which 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.800 one is the lesser version of me. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.080 I mean, that's just two different examples of extremism. But 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.880 that's why these conversations are so important to show you. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.160 First of all, the pendulum swinging either extreme is normal 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.680 and natural, but giving yourself permission to allow that pendulum 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.640 to swing back to that neutral. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.640 Yep, I love it. Well. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.680 This is the first of eight that will be happening 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.480 this year related to this topic. Two things can be 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.600 true at the same time, So take from it what 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.160 you needed, sit with it, journal about it, find your 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.560 magic eraser, and then go from there. Thank you Leanne 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.840 for chatting with us about that and sharing your personal 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:38.680 story with it too. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.200 Where can people find you? 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.800 Yeah, if you want to find more about how to 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.360 rewire your brain and really heal your relationship with food 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.640 your body, but really taking a self image and identity 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.440 and brain based approach to that topic, you can find 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.960 all you need to find over at Stressless Eating dot com. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.000 Awesome and I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram. We will 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:01.640 see you next Saturday for part two of two things 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:02.680 can be true at the same time. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:11.320 Bye bye, MHM.