1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: AM paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another episode 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: of Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. The thoughts and 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: and do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A out, employees of 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You get ready amazed 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: to find the wizard of Weird. This is Strange Things 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: with j Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren. At each 12 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand mind 13 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you can do 14 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: at home, and a lot more. And on this edition 15 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: of the program, this guy says he shot an alien. 16 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean shot with a gun. Okay, here we go, 17 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. A man says he's shot an alien. 18 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: But but there is a big twist here, and I 19 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: mean it's a big twist. It's probably not exactly the 20 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: kind of alien you're thinking of, or or maybe it 21 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: is Oh boy, this is um this is a weird one. 22 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: But hey, you know, you know this show is called 23 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: Strange Things. It's your fault for listening to it, so 24 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: don't blame me here you go. First off, I want 25 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: you to really think about this. If you see something 26 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: you believe is an alien and you shoot it with 27 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: a powerful firearm, you have just made a life altering decision, 28 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: a life altering decision, because if this is uh as well, 29 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: let's say it turns out that this is a human 30 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: of some kind, like in a costume or whatever, Well 31 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: you've just committed an extreme act, one that could put 32 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: you in prison easily, not to mention just how you 33 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: would feel about it. But on the other hand, well, 34 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: if it's an alien, we'll guess what. You just shot 35 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: an alien from another place planet realm. I mean, whatever 36 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: is going on here, It is a lie altering decision. Well, 37 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: you are about to hear the actual words of a 38 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: guy who says he's an ex military man who has 39 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: a heck of a tell and he has never been 40 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: on a show before, so this is breaking. This is 41 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: the first time. And I was referred to this guy 42 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: by a regular listener named Barbara Thank you, Barbara, and 43 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I want to reiterate something to all of you. I 44 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: received thousands of emails each week from people who want 45 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: to come on this show and tell a story, and 46 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: as a general rule, I usually don't allow it. And 47 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: the reason is that I want to be different from 48 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: everyone else. This is not primarily an interview show. Uh. 49 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: This is a show where I present amazing topics and 50 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: not a show where I just have a guest and 51 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: and hawk somebody's book or movie, show, or website or whatever. 52 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean. You know what I mean. So if somebody 53 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: wants to be on this podcast, they have to either 54 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: be somebody I'm personally super interested in or or offer 55 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: me one hundred thousand dollars and then we'll talk. No, look, 56 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm but seriously, it's not about money. That's 57 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: why you like it. You can tell that. That's why 58 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: it's good. So when I'm considering having someone on this show, 59 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: I give that person a test. I'm not going to 60 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: tell you what that test is, but it's a test 61 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: that I have developed after thirty years of interviewing people. 62 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: And if you pass that test, then I will consider 63 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: having you on the show. That does not mean that 64 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: I necessarily believe your story. It just means that your 65 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: story is good enough for all of us to think 66 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: about it in my opinion. Well, this man, Michael Willis, 67 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: who lives in Washington State here in the United States, 68 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: past my test. So I said, okay, let's talk, and 69 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I called him and here is what he has to 70 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: share with us. Are you ready open your mind? It's 71 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: gonna get weird out there here we go. What would 72 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: you like to talk about, Michael? Um? Well, I had 73 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: an incident about ten years ago or eleven years ago 74 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: in Huntsville, Alabama with a very close friend of mine. 75 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Um we ran into what we both believe as a 76 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: genius loci. Okay, so before we get into the story, um, 77 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: where are you from? Where are you now? And what 78 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: is your description of what you do? I grew up 79 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: in southern California got out of there as soon as 80 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: Uncle Sam would pay the bills when I joined the Navy. 81 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Uh Now I live in Spokane, Washington on the Idaho 82 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: Washington border, and I'm a retired sailor eleven years out 83 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: at sea between the active duty and civilian side of 84 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: the Navy. I worked in intel while I was in 85 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: the Navy, and I was a a deck worker for 86 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the Merchant Marines, and my last job before I retired 87 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: was a firearms salesman and range instructor. And so now 88 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: this is an incident that happened to you in uh 89 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: what year that would have been about? I want to 90 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: say two thousand and ten. It was right before I 91 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: shipped off to my first ship in the Merchant Marines. 92 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people listening are going to say, 93 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: what the heck is a genius loca? Is that what 94 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: you called? Yes, sir, okay, well, so what is that? 95 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: So it's a Roman ternam. It comes from Roman mythology 96 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: g and it actually translates pretty closely to a spirit 97 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: of a location. And a lot of people would assume 98 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: that it has to do with uh elementals. I've heard 99 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: them called that before. Uh. In in Irish and Scottish 100 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: myth we have the faye when they were attached to 101 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: a specific location. Um. The Romans believed that if you 102 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: were strong enough of spirit, like the emperors when they 103 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: passed away, they would their spirit would guard the empire, 104 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: or they would guard Rome or Byzantium or certain cities. 105 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: And you feel like you may have come into contact 106 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: with one of these things face to face. Absolutely, uh, 107 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: and frankly, in the last ten years of looking into 108 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: it and really trying to figure out what in the 109 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: world my friend and I ran into, it's frankly the 110 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: only thing that really makes sense. Now, this happened to 111 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you in Huntsville, Alabama, which people know as Rocket City 112 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: because of their relationship with NASA, a very significant place 113 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: in our country. Okay, so tell us the story. What happened. Well, 114 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: I went to go visit my friend, my best friend 115 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: from the Navy, but no, I've known him for ten 116 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: years at that point, twenty years at this point, and 117 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: we're both we're both into the spookier side of things. 118 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: We both enjoy that kind of aspect of things. And uh, 119 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: we decided to go and look at this area in 120 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: town that was called Hell's Gate. Uh, They're The legend 121 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: of the area was that if you would drive up 122 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: to this old, beat up, wrought iron gate and park 123 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: your car, within minutes, a huge black vehicle black truck 124 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: would appear from down the driveway and chase you away, 125 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: and the locals would tell stories about that if the 126 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: truck ever caught you horrific horrible things would happen to you, 127 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: and my friend and I, being the adventurous souls that 128 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: we we are, decided to go test this theory. So 129 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: we hunted down the area, found it, did a little 130 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: bit of investigation during the day. I noticed that there 131 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: was no no trespassing signs, no purple stickers on the 132 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: on the trees, went home, did some satellite imagery using 133 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: Google Earth to try and look and see if there 134 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: was any structures. Did this belong to anybody? When we 135 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: didn't find anybody that owned it, and we figured out 136 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: that it must be state or bank land, we decided 137 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: let's go there at night, and so we loaded up 138 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: my truck, drove over to it, and went parked right 139 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: in front of the gate. For about five minutes, nothing happened. 140 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Then we decided to get a little braver and walk 141 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: up the driveway, which looking back, was not the smartest idea. 142 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: Being a firearms instructor at the time I was I 143 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: was carrying and you know, I know, don't go into 144 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: the woods without a sidearm in case you run into 145 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: bears or or worse. And as we were walked up 146 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: the driveway, we noticed that it overrun there was grass everywhere, 147 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: about knee high weeds. I mean, there's no way a 148 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: car had ever been up and down this driveway for years. 149 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: And we get to about a quarter mile in and 150 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: there was a large field, no trees, no bushes, just 151 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a large empty field. Maybe a building had been there 152 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: a long time ago, but nothing was there now. And 153 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: we searched all over the area, didn't find anything, but 154 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: we were very clearly had a feeling of being watched, 155 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: that there was something in the woods that was looking 156 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: at us and watching us, and we decided to try 157 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: and explore a little further. We decided to go off 158 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: to one of the nearest paths to the driveway, and 159 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: as we were walking up the path, I started hearing 160 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: the sound of the best way I can describe it 161 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: is like a chittering sound, like a like a chattering sound. 162 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: No no real no words, just chitter, chitter, chitter like, 163 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: almost an insect like sound. My friend afterwards told me 164 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: he started hearing the sound of a large car engine 165 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: revinge And as we got further into the woods, I 166 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: started seeing things out of the corner of my eyes, 167 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: darting from tree to tree to tree, and I am 168 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: frankly terrified of the idea of alien abduction. It scares 169 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: the ever living daylights out of me. And a couple 170 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: of nights beforehand, we had watched this movie forth kind 171 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: uh Mia Yavovich and they described, you know, some of 172 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: the events surrounding alien abduction. Smell of cinnamon, these these voices, 173 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: the grays, you know, things like that. Terrified, scared the 174 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: ever living hell out of me. It's time for a break. 175 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: When we come back. Well, just wait till you hear 176 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: what happened next to Michael and his friend. Hey, listen. 177 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: If you want some free gifts from me, and I'm 178 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: talking instant free gifts, go to Joshua P. Warren dot 179 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: com and take two seconds put your email address into 180 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: my E newsletter subscriber box. 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Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain 237 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where 238 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: every day is golden and every night is silver. And 239 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: now let's get back to the experience that Michael Willis 240 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: had in the countryside of Huntsville, Alabama. He has never 241 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: forgotten what happened. Next here we go, and that's what 242 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: I started hearing. And I started smelling this stuff. And 243 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: I looked at my friend and I said, do you 244 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: see do you hearing of this going on? Do you see? 245 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: And he's just looking at me. He's like, I I 246 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: just hear a car managed to your car. Well, we 247 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: got probably fifth of a mile quarter of a mile 248 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: up this path, and we both kind of stopped and 249 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: looked at each other, and we we both had the 250 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: feeling like the woods and selves were, yeah, we're doing 251 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: their best to pull us into it. And while we 252 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: were standing there talking, I clearly I remember looking up 253 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: the path just a little bit and I saw what 254 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: looked to me to be a gray and alien lean 255 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: out from one of the trees and then go back in. 256 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: And that was enough to absolutely terrify me. So I 257 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: turned my friend, I said, we gotta go. Well, let's 258 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: let's get out of here. And we started walking as 259 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: fast as we could back to the field, and we 260 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: heard these things behind whatever it was. We heard something 261 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: behind us through the trees, and I remember my friends saying, 262 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: we gotta go run, and we ran back to the field, 263 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: stopped for a few seconds to catch our breath, and 264 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: then started jogging down the triphway, and the whole way 265 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: you could hear these things, something behind us following us. 266 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: We stopped about and neither one of us were the 267 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: best of shape, and we stopped for just a few seconds. 268 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: About half we count the driveway, and I turned around 269 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: to look at my friend, and standing probably five ft 270 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: behind him in the middle of this you know, fifteen 271 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: ft wide, old broke down driveway was what looked like 272 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: to me, a gray like you'd see in these space movies, 273 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: and it was reaching out to grab my friend's shoulder, 274 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: and I reached out, grabbed my friend, threw him as 275 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: fast as I could behind me while yelling rutten, and 276 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: with my other hand, I drew my side arm, slammed 277 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: it out and pulled the trigger twice. And as I 278 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: did that, this thing it just it vibrated like it 279 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: started shaking, and then it disappeared right in front of 280 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: my eyes. This thing just disappeared. And I remember standing 281 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: there for probably about a half a set and before 282 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: I just turned and ran with my friend and we 283 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: leaped over this old, rusty wrought iron gate, leaped over 284 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: the drainage ditch on the side of the road, ran 285 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the about hundred feet to my truck, jumped in, and 286 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: we took off out of there as fast as we 287 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: possibly could and got back to our house shaking. I mean, 288 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: these are two thirty year old men. I mean I 289 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: was thirty, he was forty shaking. Our wives were like, 290 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: what in the world happened to you? Guys? We didn't 291 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: even share with him until the next day what happened, 292 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: and neither one of our spouses were terribly thrilled with 293 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: that's what we did. That was a terrifying experience. So 294 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: you believe that you shot at a gray alien, Well, 295 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I believe I shot at something that looked like a 296 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: gray What I believed when I asked my friend about 297 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: it later, he told me what he saw and he 298 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: heard was the sound of a truck engine revving, and 299 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that he saw when he looked behind him, headlights coming 300 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: down the driveway. So what I believe was happening was 301 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: what was at this place was using our greatest fears 302 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: of what we would encounter against us to drive us away. Okay, 303 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: which goes back to the genius local concept. Exactly right, Yes, okay, 304 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: let's make that connection. So how do you envision all 305 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: this coming together? Well, I picture sometime in the past. 306 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know when, you know how long this thing 307 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: has been there, but I picture this, this spirit being 308 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: showing up in in this area hunts film deciding that 309 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: it really likes this area, and it sets up residency there, 310 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: and it decides it's going to live there, and it's 311 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: going to drive away any humans or anything that it 312 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: doesn't want on this property. Sorry, my dog is squeaking 313 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: a toy, um, and it's going to use our worst 314 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: fears against us to drive us off this land. I 315 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: mean it was a It was a beautiful piece of land, 316 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous. There's no reason why somebody wouldn't be living there. 317 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: And it was clear that something, perhaps some time in 318 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: the past, somebody had I mean Huntsville and that area 319 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: of Alabama has been settled for hundreds of years um 320 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: at least by by Americans, and yet there was nothing there. 321 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: We didn't even find so much as as a real 322 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: good foundation for an old house on the property. We 323 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: saw what looked like somebody had been preparing to build 324 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: there a long time ago. UM. So I wondered why 325 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: nobody had lived there, and the only thing I could 326 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: think of was this thing had driven them all away. 327 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: And and not to minimize this in any way from 328 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: a pop culture standpoint, but just to make it easier 329 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: for listeners to understand. It reminds me of the scene 330 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: and Ghostbusters, when you know the the the evil force 331 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: will take on whatever you imagine. And of course, accidentally 332 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: the state puff marshmallow man is is manifested. So do 333 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: you think that that is sort of how that these 334 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: these genius loci, these protective spirits are able to basically 335 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: intimidate humans by by saying, on a case per case basis, 336 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: what is it that's going to scare this particular person away? Absolutely? Uh? 337 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think that every single genius loci 338 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: that people run into is necessarily going to be a 339 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: negative spirit or or malevolent um. When we go to 340 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: places like I've traveled in Europe and I went to 341 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Sharks Cathedral in France, and walking into that cathedral, you 342 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: feel this sense of hope and beauty and wonder. Uh. 343 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: And I have to think that that's a very attractive 344 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: feeding around to to a spirit to come and feed 345 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: off of that positive emotion. And so I got to 346 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: think that some of these things are not necessarily bad 347 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: or or evil or malevolent at least by our our 348 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: our our understanding. I mean, they're so different from us 349 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: that it's like trying to explain morality to an aunt. 350 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: So let's go back to that terrifying experience because as 351 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: a man with a military background, especially Uh, to pull 352 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: out your firearm and and shoot. I mean, that's a 353 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: major moment for your life. That's a major moment in 354 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: anybody's life if you have to think, I am trying 355 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to kill something that looks humanoid. Uh. And and you 356 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: know you had to cross your mind because obviously you 357 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: were in a state of disorientation, like could this be 358 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: a person in a costume? Could this be you know what? Like? Like, 359 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: what what made you decide it was appropriate to fire it? 360 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: This thing? Uh? Well, Like, like I said, I've been 361 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: a firearms instructor, I've been a arranged instructor. I was 362 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: an n r A certified firearms instructor for a long time. UM. 363 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: I have at this point decades of firearm experience. That 364 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: is literally the one and only time I have ever 365 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: drawn my firearm um with the intent of causing harm. 366 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: I've been in situations left and right throughout my life 367 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: that I probably should have drawn my firearm and had 368 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: stayed in the holster. Um. I've lived all over the country. 369 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 1: I've lived in Memphis, Tennessee, Spokane, Washington. I've been in 370 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy situations. And that was the one 371 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: and only time. And what what pushed me to do 372 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: it was when I was you know, everything leading up 373 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: to that, everything I had seen, there was no way 374 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: that what I was seeing was human. Um, from the 375 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: size of the chest to the size of the arms, 376 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: the length of the arms to the body, the length 377 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: of the legs to the body, the size of the head, 378 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the movement. UM. I had been seeing these things darting 379 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: through the trees for for at that point, twenty minutes 380 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: or so. UM. There was just no way that it 381 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: was human. And when I saw that thing standing behind 382 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: my friend, it was within five ft of me, you know, 383 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: it was within five feet of him. He was within 384 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: about three ft of me. It was not a full 385 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: moon night, but it wasn't bright night, and so it 386 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: was a clear it was clear what you were seeing. Um. 387 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: If I had had any doubt whatsoever in my mind, 388 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I would not have drawn. I may have drawn and 389 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: kept the gun at low, at low, ready aimed at 390 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: the ground, and said, you know, who are you? What 391 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: are you? You know, why are you doing this to us? 392 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: But seeing what I saw, there was no question in 393 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: my mind. Okay, So if what you encountered was the 394 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: product of a genius loci that was manifesting something that 395 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: is partially based upon what you are scared of. Um, 396 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: do you feel like that what you saw is customized 397 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: to what would scare you as an alien? Or do 398 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: you think there was any objectivity whatsoever to this being? 399 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: I think that it was customized to what would terrify 400 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: me the most. Um, I really think that it pulled 401 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: that image from my mind because I've seen I've seen 402 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: that image before as well. I've seen it, uh you 403 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: know on shows like the X Piles, you see that 404 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: image consistently. Uh So I really truly do think that 405 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: this this loc I pulled that image from my mind, 406 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: knowing that that was what was going to hit me 407 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: the hardest. And maybe if you were afraid of bigfoot, 408 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: you would have encountered a bigfoot instead. I absolutely agree 409 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: with that. 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Welcome back to 447 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. 448 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: I am para normal podcast network. I'm your host, Joshua 449 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: pe Warren and this is the show where the unusual 450 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: becomes usual. And now let's just get right back to 451 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: the story. If this gray was sort of customized by 452 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: the genius loci to terrify you, um, did you did 453 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: your friend experience the same thing or was there any 454 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: variation on his perception of what he saw? So what 455 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: he experienced for some reason leading up to this, when 456 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about it UM and planning the trip 457 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: and getting ready for it, he would not stop talking 458 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: about how terrifying it would be to him if that truck, 459 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: if this big black, demonic truck chased us off the property. 460 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Um for some reason, and he's a he's a smart guy. 461 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: He does a lot of Uh. I won't give away 462 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: too much of what he does because he still works 463 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: for Uncle Sam. Uh. He's a very smart, very brilliant guy. 464 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: But for him to be terrified of a truck, he 465 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: he wasn't terrified an aliens, that didn't bother him, none 466 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: of that, none of that worried him. He he was 467 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: never really scared of ghosts stuff, But for some reason, 468 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: this idea of being chased off by a truck terrified him. 469 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: So the whole time that I was experiencing the chittering sounds, 470 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: the movement in the woods, seeing the grays come, you know, 471 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: move from tree to tree to tree, he said he 472 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: was hearing the revving of a huge diesel engine, the 473 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: moving of tires on the gravel and dirt in the field. 474 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: When we were running away from the field down the 475 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: dry of way. He said he could even see our 476 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: shadows being cast by headlights behind us, and that when 477 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: we stopped and I encountered the gray UH and forced 478 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: them to run. When he looked behind us as he 479 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: ran after I shoved him, he saw a massive, enormous 480 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: black UH truck that was just spewing flames and fire 481 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: and stuff. And what he saw was me snap draw 482 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: my gun and put two rounds through the windshield, and 483 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: this thing skid off and then vanish, he said, I mean, 484 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: he described this thing as vibrating as well when I 485 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: shot it and vanish. He didn't think anything, you know, 486 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: much more of it because to him, I shot a 487 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: car that was trying to run us over and it vanished, 488 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: And he didn't understand how in the world this massive 489 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: truck could just vanish like you snap your fingers. So 490 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: from his perspective, he saw what he was convinced he 491 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: would be most terrified of. So why do you choose 492 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: to come out and publicly tell the story? Yeah, I 493 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: think it's important that people are are honest with these things. 494 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: For years, anybody who had any kind of interaction with 495 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: the supernatural or paranormal UH, the second they opened their 496 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: mouth they were mocked UM, and that would lead to 497 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: the individual questioning what did I do? What is wrong 498 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: with me? Um? I went I mean, I went through 499 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: that for years. I grew up in a very Christian household. 500 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about spirits or spirituality, or or ghosts 501 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: or anything like that. It wasn't part of our our 502 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: our belief system. And so when I started encountering these things, 503 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have anywhere to go. I didn't have anyone 504 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: to talk to. UM. The few people I opened up 505 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: to about it at the time rejected it, rejected me, 506 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: rejected it. It had to be evil. It had at 507 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: best it was demonic, and at worst I was making 508 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: it up. So I don't want some kid, you know, 509 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: some seventeen year old or fifteen year old kid who's 510 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: encountering these things, or or or thirty year old grown 511 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: up encountering these things and not having some kind of 512 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: support to know what you're seeing is real, what you're 513 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: encountering is real, there's nothing wrong with you, you know, 514 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: and you have support out there. Well, there you have it. 515 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: That was my discussion with Michael Willis, and thank you Michael. 516 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: It really raises even more questions, doesn't it because when 517 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: you think about his experience at least I think, okay, well, 518 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: was there a force there that recognized his fear, it 519 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: tapped into his brain and manifested in a way that 520 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: would would frighten him in particular, or did he manifest 521 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Maybe there's just, you know, like something 522 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: about this area that makes it more conducive to a 523 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: manifestation experience and interface. It's, you know, one of these 524 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: portal type locations that we talk about. Um, so you 525 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: get to this sort of chicken or the egg dilemma. UM. 526 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: And as I've told you before, I am an expert 527 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: on all the things that we don't know. So I'm 528 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: not sure. I just based upon that conversation, I'm not 529 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: sure what's happening at that spot. Maybe you have more 530 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: information about that type of thing or or even that location. 531 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: And uh. If so, Michael has given me permission to 532 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: give you his email address, you are welcome to contact 533 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: him and share experiences or ask questions. His email address 534 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: is Mike M I K E. Mike D as in 535 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: dog Mike D. Willis W I L L I S. 536 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: Seventeen seventy six. Just like the year when the Declaration 537 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: of Independence was signed. Mike D. Willis seventeen seventy six 538 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. I hope you will get in 539 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: touch with him and uh, you know, just bounce some 540 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: ideas around. I'm sure he'd love to hear from you. 541 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: Mike D. Willis seventeen seventy six at gmail dot com. 542 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: And of course he lives now in Washington State, and 543 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: soon I am going to be in Washington State September 544 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: of this year. One I will be an Everett, Washington, 545 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: just outside of Seattle. I've never been there before, and 546 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: I am going to be one of the guests at 547 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: George Norris Big Live event there, and so I'm looking 548 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: forward to that. I um, because of all the projects 549 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: I have, I'm i I hardly do any more personal appearances. 550 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: I just don't have the time for it, um and 551 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: so this will probably be the last one that I 552 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: do for quite a while, and it will sell out. 553 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: George Norris Live events always do. So if you'd like 554 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: to come to see me there in September in Washington State, 555 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: go to Joshua P. Warren dot com. There is no 556 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: period after the p If you go to Joshua pe 557 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: Warren dot com you'll see currently the yellow letters at 558 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: the top that have a link to the event, or 559 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: you can click the new section and get your ticket 560 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: and come visit me in Washington this fall. But uh, yeah, 561 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: what an interesting story. Huh. You just never know what 562 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear on this program. And that's why that 563 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: I really am surprised by the emails that I get, 564 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: and uh, the the stories that I am exposed to, 565 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: and I wish I could read them all. I'm way behind. 566 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: But when it comes to this question of manifestation and 567 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: how things manifest in general, there are some particular questions 568 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: that I get emailed over and over again on a 569 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: pretty regular basis. And I hope that you understand something. 570 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: When I first started studying paranormal phenomena, it was because 571 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: that I was trying to figure out how ghosts, UFOs, cryptids, 572 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: how how that stuff could just appear? You know, what 573 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: was what was the process there? The physical process, and 574 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: people they pay attention to it when when spooky and 575 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: creepy and scary things appear. But I realized that if 576 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: you learned more and more about that process, then you 577 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: could also apply that to positive things. If you can 578 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: manifest something scary. Well, you ought to be able to 579 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: use that same kind of process to create something that's beneficial, 580 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: that's loving, kind, abundant. And that's why I do a 581 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: lot of positive metaphysical stuff because, in my opinion, the 582 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: the purpose of understanding how things manifest is to look 583 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: into how we can eventually use this to better ourselves 584 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: and better our our society and you know, help help 585 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: help everybody out, help out your friends and your family. 586 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: So it seems like a good time for me to 587 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: address a big question, uh that I I often get 588 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: from people who contact me and they say, you know what, 589 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: I I have a wishing machine or a prayer word, 590 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: or I'm using a bad buster or a wand or 591 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: does and I'm trying to manifest something. And then they say, 592 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: how long will it take? How long is this going 593 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: to take for this to happen? And uh, I pose 594 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: that question wants to Charles Kasamano Uncle Chucky, and he said, 595 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: as long as it takes. And I understand what he 596 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: means by that, but let me try to give you 597 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: a more satisfying answer. When you are trying to manifest 598 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: something good for yourself, you're trying to improve your life 599 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: in some way. There are some certain guidelines that you 600 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind, and every situation is unique 601 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: and and special, and that's why you know, there's no 602 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: one answer that suits everybody in this scenario. And so 603 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: in my book Us the Force, a Jedi's Guide to 604 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: the Law of Attraction, I have a chapter, chapter six. 605 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: It's called give it Time. Um. But when we come 606 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: back from our break here, I'm going to tell you 607 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: more about what that means give it time and get 608 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: more specific with you. And I'm also going to tell 609 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: you about something I don't think I've ever talked about 610 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: on this show before, something that I keep around my 611 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: house all over the place that I think brings good fortune, 612 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: brings good luck. So I'll tell you all about that 613 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: when we come back. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening 614 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast 615 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll be right back. 616 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: The Internet is an extraordinary resource that links our children 617 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: to a world of information, experiences, and ideas. 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And think about a farmer 634 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: who plants a seed, fully hoping, expecting this thing is 635 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: going to grow. Well, what happens if the farmer is 636 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: impatient and he's digging the seed back up every day 637 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: or two to see if it's growing, Well, it's not 638 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna grow. He is. He's destroying the process because he's 639 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: not trusting the process. Now, I'm not saying that every 640 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: seed is going to grow. There are other factors in 641 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: the universe. But the last thing you want to do 642 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: is plant your seed and then go in and interfere 643 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: with it and disrupt it. No, you plant it knowing 644 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: that I've put this seed here, and now I've done 645 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: everything that I can do. I can continue watering or 646 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: fertilizing the spot or whatever, but now it's to some 647 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: extent out of my hands. It's up to Mother Nature. 648 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: It's up to the universe. And it goes with any 649 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: thing that you want to plant out there, any type 650 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: of a mental seed, a thought form that you want 651 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: to plant. If you just constantly scratch at it and 652 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: dig it up to see how it's doing well, then 653 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: you are going to sabotage yourself, you see. So that's 654 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: the first thing to keep in mind when you ask 655 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: this question of how long is it gonna take for 656 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: something to manifest? Now, if you are using a manifestation 657 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: tool like a wishing machine or maybe the bad buster, 658 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: where you begin by producing some kind of a written 659 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: statement and you put that statement down and you just 660 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: feel at a certain point, like, you know, I don't 661 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: see any evidence that this is working. It's okay to 662 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: rewrite that or refresh it, like putting new batteries in 663 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes as time goes on, you think of maybe 664 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: better ways you can word things. That's okay to do that. 665 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: But when you're trying to manifest things and you ask 666 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: this question of like, well, how long is it going 667 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: to take? Here are some tips to keep in mind. Uh, okay, 668 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: And this is what I send this to people who 669 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 1: ask me this. This varies greatly on a case per 670 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: case basis. It depends on how many factors in the 671 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: universe must rearrange themselves to conform to your specific desire 672 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: and our experiments. Some thing's happen almost instantly. Other things 673 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: that are more complex can take weeks, months, or years, 674 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: depending on the magnitude, So that the length of time 675 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 1: seems to depend partially on the following factors. Number One, 676 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: who is the person placing the intention and what is 677 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: their current position position in life? That is to say, 678 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: what is their starting point. So, for example, it's easier 679 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: for a millionaire to manifest a million dollars next week 680 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: than it is for a person with twenty dollars in 681 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: their accounts. The person with twenty dollars should think, well, 682 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe I want to manifest a hundred dollars and the 683 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: person with a hundred dollars might think, well, maybe I 684 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: want to manifest five dollars, and the person with tries 685 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: to manifest the thousand, And that is the process that 686 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: you have to understand allows the mind two more easily 687 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: and and sort of rationally make that leap to manifest 688 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: what is necessary. So the starting point plays a difference, 689 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: and you manifest what you want gradually. The second thing 690 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: is um the second factor how many changes need to 691 00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: occur for reality to conform to the desire. For example, 692 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 1: it's easier to get your neighbors to quiet and down 693 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: than it is to assemble the entire cast and crew 694 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: of a feature film and shoot it successfully. So how 695 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: many moving parts are there that plays a big, big 696 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,479 Speaker 1: role as well. The more complex something is, well, yeah, 697 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: the longer it's gonna take for it to come together. 698 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: And the third thing is what is the timing of 699 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: all of all this? So how many opposing factors are 700 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: working against you? For example, it's easier to wish for 701 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: a front row seat at the super Bowl during the 702 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: off season rather than waiting until the day before the game. 703 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: And just keep in mind if you're trying to manifest something, Hey, 704 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: You're not the only person in the world trying to manifest. No, 705 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: your intentions are competing with everybody else. You're not God, 706 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: you're not the absolute, you know, superpower that gets to 707 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: make whatever you want happen for you. You are a 708 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: participant and this entire spiritual experience. And so if you 709 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: want an upper hand, it's kind of like the early 710 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: bird catches the worm. So yeah, don't wait till the 711 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 1: last minute. And and don't be you know, hung up 712 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: on details that are stupidly specific, um, because you make 713 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: it harder for yourself, and because that everybody is unique 714 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: and every situation is unique. Well, that's about the best 715 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: advice I can give, the best information I can give 716 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: you regarding how long it takes to manifest things. For 717 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: greater clarity on the issue, again, you just have to 718 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: read my book. If you go to Joshua P. Warren 719 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: dot com, you'll see the icon there for my book, 720 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: Use the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction. 721 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: You can download it and read it as an e 722 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: book instantly, I think it's like, or you can get 723 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: a printed copy through my website sent to you. And 724 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: some people go to other sources and people are charging 725 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: like well over a hundred dollars for a copy of 726 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 1: this book, but if you order it from my website, 727 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: you'll get it at a reasonable price. So I hope 728 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: that's helpful. But I do want to give you an 729 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: interesting little tip. This is something that I've had for 730 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: a while here as a notation that I wanted to 731 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: share with you. Um, do you know why that Ian 732 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: Fleming chose to make James Bond double O seven? I 733 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: got an email a few months ago from my great 734 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: friend Sentaro David Longley. You've heard me interview him on 735 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: this program, and uh he he likes to be mysterious 736 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: and and tease me with metaphysical uh questions, And so 737 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: at the end of his letter he goes, ps, do 738 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 1: you know why that Ian Fleming us double O seven 739 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: for James Bond? And uh I didn't know, so of 740 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: course I ran too the computer and looked it up. 741 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: And this is something that, uh really you can apply 742 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: to your life in an odd way. So apparently the 743 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: character of Merlin and I knew all about this. The 744 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: character of Merlin and other wizards throughout history have often 745 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: been based upon this man named John d an englishman 746 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: who lived from fifty seven until about sixteen o nine. 747 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: He was a mathematician, astronomer, astrologer, teacher, occultist, alchemist and 748 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: uh it said that he had one of the largest 749 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: libraries in England. He was a political advice isser two 750 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: Elizabeth the First and uh just if you don't know 751 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: who John D is, read about John D one of 752 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: the most fascinating characters in all of history. Well, he 753 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: also ended up being a sort of a spy, as 754 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 1: it turns out, for England. And he would sign his 755 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: letters to the queen with double O seven. And the 756 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: reason is the two zeros look like two eyes, and 757 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: so that means for your eyes only, So that's kind 758 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: of like the symbol for top secret zero zero for 759 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: your eyes only. But then he would end it with 760 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: the seven, because the number seven is the number of 761 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: luck and good fortune. And you see that all throughout nature. 762 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: Look at, for example, the colors in the spectrum red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet, 763 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: that's seven. Or the notes in the musical skill do 764 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: re me fosso la ti seven. In the Bible, it 765 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: says the Lord made the world and then rested on 766 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: the seventh day. It's a holy sacred number of good fortune, 767 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: and that's why he would end it with a seven. 768 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: And so you know what I have all around my house, 769 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: big giant sevens. I don't care what they're made out of. 770 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't care if they're flat or three d I 771 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: have big sevens all around my house. And it goes 772 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: without saying. I have some pretty good fortune in my life. 773 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: So I wanted to squeeze that in there for you 774 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: as a little tip. Find yourself some sevens and put 775 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: them around the house and see what happens. But before 776 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: we end, of course, here is another tip for some 777 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: good fortune. I'm gonna play for you the good Fortune tone. 778 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, close your eyes if you can, relax, 779 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: and listen now to the good Fortune Tom. That's it 780 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: for this edition of the show. Follow me on Twitter 781 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: at Joshua pe Warren, Plus visit Joshua pe Warren dot 782 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: com to sign up for my free e newsletter to 783 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: receive a free instant gift, and check out the cool 784 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,760 Speaker 1: Stuff and the Curiosity Shop all at Joshua pe Warren 785 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: dot com. I have a fun one lined up for 786 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: you next time, I promise, So please tell all your 787 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: friends to subscribe to this show and to always remember 788 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, thank you for 789 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: your interest in support, thank you for staying curious, and 790 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: I We'll talk to you again soon. You've been listening 791 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast 792 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: to Coast a UM paranormal podcast network. Well, if you 793 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: like this episode of Strange Things, wait till you hear 794 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: the next one. 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