1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: We successfully gave the bully PTSD. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh my, that is that is a lot. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Back in the winter maybe fall of two thousand and 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: four to two thousand and four, two thousand and five, 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: one of my friends, Victor, the victim love that name 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: for you, Bro, had an issue with bullying by Chad. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Chad. Chad Bro. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Hey, Bro, let me dunk your head in this toilet. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: We'll giving you an atomic wedgie. Yeah. 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I love our stereotypical bully voice. 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember what the bowling was. I only remember 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: the most epic of nuclear of reactions. Victor tried to 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: end himself and spent weeks out of school before coming back. 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: So the bowling was like intensity, He's like really bad. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: So the best bowling led to a fistful of prescription 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: pills and Victor got his stomach pumped in the er 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Ny your Garden Variety building, Like this was actually serious. 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Good God. 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: So after months of doing things the right way right, 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: which is like you know, going through the school and 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: and like talking. 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: About it right, trying to trying to like get back 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: at the bully through all that to try to like 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: make sure channels this bully understands his actions are wrong. 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were unsuccessful. So we planned our attack, and yes, 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: this was an attack. Before anyone suggests you could have 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: shot his eye out, we discussed that possibility and it 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: didn't bother any of us. 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: Interesting. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Quite simply, we waited until Victor was documented to be 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: at work late one night. Our posse, the four of us, 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: gathered up with a bunch of paintball guns and equipment 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: for his Camo dark clothes, and jumped the bully in 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: his driveway. 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: When he was getting home. 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: We unloaded on him with paintballs, not giving two craps 39 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: about whether his eyes were shot out. 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: My goodness. 41 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: By the end he was rolling around covering his face well, 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: being shot point blank by these paintballs. We left a 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: note under his windshield wipers. Next time, it'll be lead. 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Leave Victor alone or you will be un alive. 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: God, these guys, I mean, I mean vigilante justice. I 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: mean yeah, yeah, I think, I think like if someone 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: bullied someone that hard, you got what's coming to you. 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: But that wasn't enough, Oh God. We took a bunch 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: of tire irons to his car and smashed the hell 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: out of his brand new Chevy. Oh my goodness, good 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: thing we were wearing full masks because there are bits 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: of glass flying everywhere CSI being a thing at all. 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: We used a new pack of note cards sealed in 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: plastic gloves and deliberately and deliberate evil handwriting that and 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: we made and we and we wrote in deliberately evil 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: looking handwriting so no one could track the handwriting backshot. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: What is this young group of mastermind criminals? Like? What 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: what is going on here? 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: Bro? 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: They want justice? This Jeffrey Dahmer's cousin or something like 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: the details of I'm guessing they're like in high school 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: or something like. This is a lot. 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: They didn't see. The next thing is just that that 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: they have to don some superhero suits. 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And actually they're more like like the Punisher 66 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: or something. They're like anti hero vibes facts, which is cool. 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: When he finally showed up at school, he looked like 68 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: he had been through a meek grind. He was absolutely 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: covered in blue black welts and several bandages and quite 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: a few spots where the skin had been broken. Needless 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: to say, the cops were called on the incidant and 72 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: there were a quig sing in the morning where the 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: cops went every home room class and asked, Hey, does 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: anyone know anything about this? The cops tried to guilt 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: us into confessing and having no clue who actually did it. 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: They brought up crap like he could have lost his 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: vision if his eyes gotten hit. There may even be 78 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: permanent scars. They eventually showed pictures in the ear of 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: his blood mixing paintball paint, and the welt's being so 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: numerous that they were on top of each other. My god, 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: the guilt trip strategy to invoke a confession was a 82 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: good one, except none of us felt guilty. We felt 83 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: nothing in the slightest for the scum. Being as smart 84 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: ass as we were, we pointed the finger at Victor 85 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: and one other friend who we knew had an alibi work. Wait. 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Wait, they're not blaming Victor, are they. 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: They're like blaming Victor, but like it's impossible because he 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: had an alibi because he was at work. 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Oh, because Victor was at work. Yeah, m so weird. 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: It just yeah, it's like Victor did it. Yeah, then 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: he just gets arrested for a crime he never committed. Interesting, 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: the bully was jumpy and never the same. I straight 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: up think we gave him some fairly moderate PTSD from 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: the attack, Like, we seriously did some psychological damage, and 95 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: I've never been happier. After a few months, he moved 96 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: and didn't tell anyone where. I think his parents just 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: straight up left town with a kid, and he may 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: or may not have graduated elsewhere. And that is how 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: I gave the bully sweet sweet justice. Interesting. I so so, 100 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: I I do, like, like again, you do you do something, 101 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: you you you get it back? Like I like that part. 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: I think they went a little to him on him, 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: like bro all the way and they didn't explicitly say 104 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: what he did, but what he did, but the effect 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: was yeah, I mean that's that's insane. 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty pretty hard effect. 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, I wow, this is what what 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: do you guys? Like is I'm struggling to decide if 109 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: this is the right move or not. 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: I mean, like, good for you for standing up to 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: a friend. Yeah, yeah, good for you for standing up 112 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: for a friend. Yeah at the call, maybe not. 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. It's just too it's just 114 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 2: too it was too much. 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: But you know, like maybe this bully learns his lesson 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: and learns the positive. I think, you know, maybe you 117 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: can stop this behavior while he's still a young Yeah, 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: because you know, bullying is just not a good thing, 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: especially if it leads to like, you know. 120 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: If it's it's that drastic, that is very very bad. 121 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: So I mean, I do think it's good that they 122 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: like basically, he's probably not gonna do that ever again. 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: But uh, it's interesting. 124 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, actions have consequences. 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: My friends comments. 126 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: In high school, so this is like from a from 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: a comment. Uh and nil dies anlin dayas I'm just 128 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: pronounce like that. In high school, I was bullied severely, 129 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: thing pushed down the stairs kind Whether I stayed quiet 130 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: or fought back, I just couldn't get them. Whether I 131 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: stayed quiet or fought back, I just couldn't get them 132 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: to leave me alone. And because of all that horror 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: attention I was getting, and because of all that horror 134 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: attention I was getting, no one wanted to be friends 135 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: with me. I wish I had friends like you back then. 136 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: Victor was so lucky to have you guys in such 137 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: a pun in such a low point in his life. 138 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is like, I do think it 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: was right of them to like go go guns of blazing, 140 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: no pun intended, but like I yeah, it's just they 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: just pushed it a bit too far, Like they should 142 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: have just ambushed him and just like put it maybe 143 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: like kind of from far away, like not this like 144 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: point blank, just like don't care about the eyes or whatever. 145 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: It's just like you'll still you'll you'll rough him up 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: and he'll just be so he'll be just shook from 147 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: it happening period. Yeah. I don't know that you need 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: to like massively just destroy him. Yeah. Yeah. 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: There was one more comment Cooi Gone said, it is 150 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: only when authorities fail that vigilantes rise. 151 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: Didn't it any