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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Carl Calvic, Darren Urban and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 4: Personally, I was ready for the NFL Draft twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: three when all these QB prospects that their pro day

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Speaker 4: decided to flex and hit the roof of the training

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Speaker 4: facility with a deep ball. That told me we are

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Speaker 4: ready for the draft. But then the last twenty four

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Speaker 4: hours when a Reddit post, an anonymous post on Reddit

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Speaker 4: has actually altered the betting lines because it says that

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Speaker 4: Will Levis might go number one overall to Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Now we really know that we.

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Speaker 4: Are ready for NFL Draft A twenty twenty three, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna break all this down on this edition to

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Speaker 4: gree Darren Urban, still reeling mentally from losing his blue check,

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Speaker 4: but he's looking diligently over the show rundown, Darren, are

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Speaker 4: you with us mentally?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready?

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Speaker 5: I'm here for you, Paul.

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Speaker 4: Kyle van and Bosch, still holding a grudge from two

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Speaker 4: thousand and one and his pre draft scout and report.

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Speaker 4: Don't make me break it out, Kyle. If you threaten

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Speaker 4: me at any point, I'm gonna respond here during this

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Speaker 4: edition of the Red Sea Report by just reading some

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Speaker 4: of the negatives from your two thousand and one scot

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Speaker 4: report coming out of Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: So I'll do it.

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Speaker 6: Is that's got a report also from Reddit?

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Speaker 7: Is this?

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Speaker 6: Where is this where you get all of your news, Paul,

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Speaker 6: Because it seems like that's probably the case where you

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Speaker 6: get most of your information.

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Speaker 4: Just ask your two teenagers. That's where it all comes

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Speaker 4: from these days. Okay, there we go. Guess what if

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Speaker 4: we open up those blinds, you might see some players

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Speaker 4: on the backfield, or maybe you saw them earlier today,

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Speaker 4: Darren Urban give us the latest on this is not

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Speaker 4: just draft week, but because the Cardinals have a brand

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Speaker 4: new head coach and Jonathan Gannon, what else does this entail.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean there's the new coach, means extra mini

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Speaker 5: It's voluntary, so you know, I'm sure not necessarily everybody's

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Speaker 5: for the coaches who have not been able to work

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Speaker 4: In fact, here's Jonathan Gannon and within the last week

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Speaker 8: The coaching process starts for our guys with from a

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Speaker 8: a safe and effective way. And I know our coaches, man,

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Speaker 8: they are ready to go on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: I know that if you're a player, Kyle put us

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Speaker 6: Well, frankly, anything you did in the past, I mean

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Speaker 6: Jonathan Gannon said is like he wants competition at every

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Speaker 6: And as a player, I could tell you it's the same.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you need about you know, you need a

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Speaker 4: JG rhymes with energy, as we like to say, and

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Speaker 4: on Thursday night. Darren, what's your expectation before we get

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Speaker 5: I mean, my gut is that the attempt will be

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Speaker 5: You know, the one that keeps popping in my head

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Speaker 5: going after an edge rusher. So, you know, I think

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Speaker 5: they need to find a handful of guys and Kyle

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Speaker 5: but they need to kind of get this roster back full.

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Speaker 4: Hey, the Houston Texans have done a heck of a

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Speaker 4: most would think it would be Will Anderson. Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 4: came out today NFL dot Com is final mock Draft,

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Speaker 4: from more of a scout's perspective, says, you know what

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Speaker 4: they are going to shown quarterback Houston. They're going Tyree

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Speaker 4: Stroud is still on the board of number three for

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Speaker 9: As far as number two goes My thought the whole

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Speaker 9: if the Texans don't take a quarterback. They do have

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Speaker 9: I do think that will have massive, massive, dramatic effect.

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Speaker 4: That's seeing rap a hoard on the Pat McAfee show.

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Speaker 4: Others have said it's the biggest pivot point, not only

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, the impression you give is that they're playing chess.

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Speaker 6: Everybody else is playing checkers, Paul. But to me, I

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Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like Houston knows what they want to

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Speaker 6: mean it, there's so much at stake for the Arizona

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Speaker 6: We'll just get them next year. Because if you do

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Speaker 5: I agree with that, because you don't know if you're

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Speaker 5: I mean, and let's face it, the Texans ended up

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Speaker 5: I think you got to take swing when you don't

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Speaker 5: ended up happening. They continue to flounder, yep, but did

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Speaker 5: they They didn't flounder quite enough to get the quarterback

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Speaker 4: I mean, are they trying to mess with their own division?

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Speaker 4: Seattle at number five and Gino Smith is basically on

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Speaker 4: I mean, Houston has started a different starting quarterback in

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Speaker 4: has done that. So if you're Indianapolis at four, you

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Speaker 4: They didn't sniff anyone in free agency. Houston, they gotta

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Speaker 6: No, I agree. Hold on, I'm I'm shorting through short

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Speaker 6: Paul's saying over there. Paul, you're so cool.

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Speaker 4: Well that was I had to get ready for the

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Speaker 6: The kept bringing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was. That was yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

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Speaker 4: So look, I'm just having the Cardinals at number three

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Speaker 3: The question is where do they go?

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Speaker 4: They go down to number seven with the Raiders, do

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Speaker 4: So you're telling me that DeAndre Hopkins isn't worth something significant.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 4: I think there are still enough suitors in that regard

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Speaker 4: and we'll benefit them on Draft Day, which by the way,

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Speaker 4: is Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: We continue with the Red.

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Speaker 4: Sea Report, brought to you by Seat Geek, Your Ticket

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Speaker 3: Everybody talks about Will Anderson.

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Speaker 10: Yes he's talented, but it's about the effort that he

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson doing dammage. Anderson got damn.

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Speaker 1: It was a simple bull racing Will Anderson with the

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Speaker 3: All we talked about, do you double MD and ship in? Well,

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Speaker 4: One thing you can't do is just leave him one.

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Speaker 2: On one swarmed under my Will Anderson the best pass

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Speaker 11: Quarterback.

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Speaker 6: We'll keep it, Eagg.

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Speaker 12: It's taken down.

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson Junior lying in wait.

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Speaker 12: Fit this in a second.

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Speaker 6: This is Will Anderson Jr.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown.

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Speaker 4: We don't have enough time to really go through all

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Speaker 4: the accolades on Will Anderson. It's only an hour edition

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Speaker 4: to the Cardinals Red Sea Report, brought to you by

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Speaker 4: Seat Geek, Your Ticket to Great Seats. Paul Calvc send

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Speaker 4: in for Craig Griolou, Kyle, Vana Bosch, Darren Urban. Let's

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Speaker 4: just go right to kV Be, a guy went to

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowls as an edge rusher. People ask you about

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Speaker 4: Will Anderson, I'm sure, Kyle. I mean, what do you

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Speaker 6: Well, he's your total package. To me, he's the can't

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Speaker 6: He plays the run well, uses his leverage, he's got

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Speaker 6: He's going against other guys that are gonna be Day one,

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Speaker 6: There is no holes in his game. I think some

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Speaker 6: I think he's the can't miss edge rusher of this draft.

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Speaker 4: Here's Will Anderson from the Combine just talking about his

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Speaker 13: Being an Alabama made me very versatile. Dropping the coverage,

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Speaker 13: You know, he trusted me a lot, He's seen a

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Speaker 4: And if you're looking at Will Anderson, what is your

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Speaker 6: And you know, you don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Get too far ahead of yourself. And I understand, you know,

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Speaker 5: because what's the number one rule of the draft, don't

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Speaker 5: I like to see Will Anderson on this roster? Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: And you know we've talked about this in podcasts before, Paul.

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Speaker 4: The two most important things in the NFL quarterback play

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Speaker 11: great person. He's got great competitive characters. Find a young

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Speaker 11: man as you're ever going to find to be in

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Speaker 11: your organization. So I think he's going to make a

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Speaker 11: huge impact wherever he goes.

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Speaker 4: All right, Nick Saban? Right there, So KVB, we're going

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Speaker 4: to add two more initials to your title.

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Speaker 3: GM.

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Speaker 4: What about some of these mock drafts out there. The

445
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Speaker 4: mock trades have been proposed. There's rumors that Atlanta, who

446
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Speaker 4: has met with all the quarterbacks, would come up to

447
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Speaker 4: number three. Cardinals would go to number eight and they

448
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Speaker 4: would net a couple of key picks from that. They

449
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Speaker 4: would get Atlanta's pick a top round two, they would

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Speaker 4: get Atlanta's pick a top round three, and they would

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Speaker 4: also get a twenty twenty four round four. Would that

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Speaker 4: be enough for you to go down to number eight?

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Speaker 4: You're dropping five spots. You would probably lose out on

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Speaker 4: Will Anderson, but guess what you could get two potential

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Speaker 4: starters atop round two and round three in a very

456
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Speaker 4: deep draft for both corner and maybe even a defensive

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Speaker 4: lineman offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: These are all dire areas of need.

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Speaker 6: If you're the Cardinals, I think it is I think, look,

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Speaker 6: I love Will Anderson. I think if we're at three,

461
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Speaker 6: he's the guy we take. If there is other scenarios,

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Speaker 6: I'm all for getting draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: These draft picks need to be in round two, round

465
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Speaker 6: three in my opinion, they need to be guys that

466
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Speaker 6: can check boxes and fill holes because there is still

467
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Speaker 6: some gaping holes. And again to Darren's point, just going

468
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Speaker 6: back to our conversation, we need to fill holes that

469
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Speaker 6: are three four year answers because through free agency, all

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Speaker 6: the holes we filled were one and two year answers,

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Speaker 6: and we're gonna be back in the same situation every

472
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Speaker 6: year in free agency where we're trying to refill the

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Speaker 6: holes that we plugged last year. So we need some

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Speaker 6: consistency and continuity with this roster. So if we can

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Speaker 6: get additional second, third round, even a late first where

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Speaker 6: we can get guys that can come in plug into

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Speaker 6: the lineup. What it may not be Day one, but

478
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Speaker 6: we can develop them and they can be liable starters

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Speaker 6: that we can depend on for the next few years.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for that, Darren.

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Speaker 4: There's enough needs for the Cardinals if they don't go

482
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Speaker 4: edge rusher at number three or they end up trading down.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know what, they also very much need

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Speaker 4: a corner right CB one. They need offensive linemen, they

485
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Speaker 4: need the defensive tackle minus JJ Watt and Zach Allen.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would be surprised if they targeted

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Speaker 4: one of those position groups in the first round of

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Speaker 4: this draft.

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Speaker 5: Again, you're absolutely right. Ultimately one of the things that

490
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Speaker 5: hurts the Cardinals in the short term helps them in

491
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Speaker 5: this draft, which is they do have a lot of needs,

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Speaker 5: so they can kind of expand and take, you know,

493
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Speaker 5: some really good players at a bunch of different positions

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Speaker 5: because it would help, as Kyle said, in that fill

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Speaker 5: that hole for the next few years.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: If you don't get that edge rusher and you're taking

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Speaker 5: a cornerback with your first round pick, you're still gonna

499
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Speaker 5: have an edge rush need at some point, and obviously

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Speaker 5: you're you're gonna have a lesser talent that you're going

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Speaker 5: to bring in on that. And obviously this team took

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Speaker 5: Cameron Thomas and my j Sanders last year and you're

503
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Speaker 5: hoping that they could still develop into something. But with

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Speaker 5: new coaches, you don't know how these coaches are going

505
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Speaker 5: to see those guys. We have a new GM. We

506
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Speaker 5: don't know had those guys been here, if those players

507
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Speaker 5: would have been the picks. And that's again, when you're

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Speaker 5: having a transition like this, that's the other tough part.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's like, well, you have these young players still, you

510
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Speaker 5: have this guy still on your rousher. Yeah, but I've

511
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Speaker 5: been around this a long time. I still I go pack.

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Speaker 5: I go back to when Denny Green came in as coach.

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Speaker 5: Here Kyle remembers all this, and there was a couple

514
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Speaker 5: of guys that you had been there and were solid players,

515
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Speaker 5: and as soon as the new coach came in.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, they were not.

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Speaker 5: They were afterthoughts.

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Speaker 14: L J.

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Speaker 5: Shelton was a guy that really resonates with me as

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Speaker 5: a guy that had been a steady starter for you

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Speaker 5: and you got a new coach in and then it

522
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Speaker 5: was it was old before anything really got started because

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Speaker 5: of whatever reasons. And so that's something that's something that

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Speaker 5: always has to be kept in mind when you're talking

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Speaker 5: about new coaching staff. Is these existing guys that you

526
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Speaker 5: already have we don't know. As Kyle said, before everything

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Speaker 5: is open and as a competition.

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Speaker 4: Now you guys are both at the uniform unveiling. Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Ganning during the Q and A said a couple interesting things.

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Speaker 4: One they had gotten double digit trade calls last week

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Speaker 4: alone at number for number three, that MANI and him

532
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Speaker 4: actually wrote down their ten favorite players in this draft,

533
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Speaker 4: and they had eight of the same names of the

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Speaker 4: top ten. I thought that was interesting. Then you talked

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Speaker 4: about the top thirty business Kyle, real quick. By the

536
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Speaker 4: time you're done with spending twenty four hours I having

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Speaker 4: multiple meals with a player, do you think you get

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Speaker 4: a pretty good sense of who the person is?

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Speaker 3: I think you do.

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Speaker 11: Mean.

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Speaker 6: Look, you know, a quick zoom call or a phone call,

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Speaker 6: or even a meeting at the combine, you get a

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Speaker 6: little idea. But spending some time with the player, talking

544
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Speaker 6: to him about his priorities, what's important to him, those

545
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Speaker 6: are all important factors You've got to when you're drafting somebody,

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Speaker 6: You've got to look at the total person, not just

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Speaker 6: the numbers that are on a sheet in front of you.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, Manti Austin Fort and the possibility

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Speaker 4: of trading down. It's the Cardinal's Red Sea Report, brought

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Speaker 4: to you by seat.

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Speaker 12: Geek takes a shot back, So pict there the septem

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Speaker 12: on Christian Getzalas.

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Speaker 3: This is a bigger, longer corner.

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Speaker 13: We can do much.

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Speaker 2: Why they are continuing to test him.

556
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Speaker 12: Is beyond me right side of it's tiptop again if

557
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Speaker 12: it's Christian Gonzales. But the second interception this sport.

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Speaker 6: Find out where zero is and go the other way.

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Speaker 12: Got what isption.

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Speaker 13: Out of her charm.

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Speaker 12: Christian guzalas Man that she had a great year.

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Speaker 10: Beside, he has the crepeed, he has the all skills,

563
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Speaker 10: he has everything that these gms cove it in a

564
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Speaker 10: top four Christian Gonzales to Oregon.

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Speaker 4: Could he come to the az and rejoin his brother

566
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Speaker 4: in law? About David blou was also on the roster.

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Speaker 4: In fact, David Blow and the Cardinals on the field

568
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Speaker 4: as we speak, the voluntary veteran mini camp going on.

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Speaker 4: Part of what comes with a new head coach and

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Speaker 4: a new coaching staff in the NFL. It is ears

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Speaker 4: on a Cardinal's Red Sea Report, brought to you by

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Speaker 4: Seat Geek Your Ticket to Great Seats, Paul Kelvec, Darren Urban,

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Speaker 4: Kyle Vannenbosch. And let there be mock drafts with trade downs.

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Speaker 4: For example, let's pick up where we left off Will Anderson.

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Speaker 4: Let's say he goes number two overall to Houston. Now,

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Speaker 4: some mock drafts say the Houston will indeed get the

577
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Speaker 4: quarterback by trading back up from twelve to three and

578
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Speaker 4: making a deal with the Cardinals. So the Houston Texans

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Speaker 4: would draft number two and number three Cardinals would go

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Speaker 4: down to number twelve. Okay, you know what, we command

581
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Speaker 4: the same Trey Lance deal that the Niners had to

582
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Speaker 4: give up to go from twelve to three just two

583
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Speaker 4: years ago. Three first round picks. I'm sure the Cardinals

584
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Speaker 4: would do that. But there's also another one out there.

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Speaker 4: I saw on NFL dot Com Darren, where Will Anderson

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Speaker 4: goes too, and then Vegas makes a trade up to three,

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Speaker 4: Cardinals will go down to seven, and you're thinking, maybe

588
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Speaker 4: they get Christian Gonzalez at seven, But wait, there's more.

589
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Speaker 4: Jalen Carter is still on the board. Philly trades up

590
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Speaker 4: from ten to number seven, The Cardinals cash it in again,

591
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Speaker 4: go down to ten, and still get a Christian Gonzalez.

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Speaker 4: So let there be an NFL draft.

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Speaker 5: I mean again, if I don't think anything is off

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Speaker 5: the board when you're talking about Cardinals and stockpiling some picks,

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Speaker 5: So could there be a couple of deals. I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: completely rule it out. Once you've moved on from three,

597
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Speaker 5: and let's say you're not getting a Will Anderson, then

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Speaker 5: I do think then there's a bunch of guys in

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Speaker 5: a group. Even if you want to go offensive line

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Speaker 5: back at ten or whatever it might be. I think

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Speaker 5: there's always that option, but it's going to be intriguing

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Speaker 5: what happens. I like the Texas trade seems really I

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Speaker 5: guess if you want, if you really love Will Anderson,

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Speaker 5: but you really need quarterback, you're willing to trade up.

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Speaker 5: But that Houston isn't exactly burgeoning with talent either. I

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Speaker 5: don't understand why they would send a bunch of draft

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Speaker 5: picks to go from twelve to three to get a

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Speaker 5: quarterback that you should have just taken it too.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have Cleveland's draft capital obviously from the

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Hodson trade. The thinking, at least out of Houston

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Speaker 4: Summers saying is that, A they need a quarterback, yes,

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Speaker 4: but Tamiko Ryans needs that premier edge rusher, defensive lineman

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Speaker 4: to make his system go like he had with the

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Speaker 4: Niners and Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: Manti asin Fort during his pre draft press conference, was

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Speaker 4: asked about the possibility of trading down.

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Speaker 7: If the phone does ring and someone shows interest, then

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Speaker 7: we're going to have to weigh that, right. It's a

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Speaker 7: it's a give and takes. Is there a player there

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Speaker 7: that we want to take there? And there obviously is.

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Speaker 7: There's only two players that are going to be drafted

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Speaker 7: ahead of where we pick, and so we have to

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Speaker 7: weigh that versus h if there is an offer, and

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Speaker 7: what exactly that offer is. So it's one we're gonna

626
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Speaker 7: have to wait and see just what opportunities are aren't there.

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Speaker 4: I personally think a quarterback will be on the board

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Speaker 4: that a team covets and they will make the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: an offer to come down. What do you think, Kyle,

630
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Speaker 4: And if so, is there a particular player or position

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Speaker 4: group you would target if you're not getting to Will Anderson,

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Speaker 4: if you're not getting a Tyree Wilson for example. Albert

633
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Speaker 4: Breer this week has reported the Cardinals were reportedly high

634
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Speaker 4: on Devin Witherspoon, the corner out of Illinois, and then

635
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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray himself has told management and the decision makers

636
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Speaker 4: he loves Paris Johnson, the tackle out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: So it could be any and all or all the above.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you're right again. Look all we talked about this

639
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Speaker 6: last week, knowing where Jonathan Ganning came from and what

640
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Speaker 6: he had to work with last year. And look, I

641
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Speaker 6: was at the as you mentioned earlier, I was at

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Speaker 6: the new uniform unveiling with hosted by Danny and some

643
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Speaker 6: other guy.

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Speaker 3: And what's so forgettable that guy.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that Jonathan Gannon said when you

646
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Speaker 6: were talking to him was about how much criticism he got,

647
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Speaker 6: but he went down the list of what his defense

648
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Speaker 6: did and he said, we were able to lead the

649
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Speaker 6: league by thirty plus sacks without blitzing, you know, and

650
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Speaker 6: there's so much value to that when you have dudes

651
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Speaker 6: up front that can get pressure on the quarterback, and

652
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Speaker 6: everything behind you looks so much cleaner and so much

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Speaker 6: better when you're getting quick pressure on the quarterback. Now

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Speaker 6: saying that, you know, so I again, you know, if

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Speaker 6: we stay with eight draft picks, I envisioned us getting

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Speaker 6: at least four, either interior offensive lineman or defensive lineman,

657
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Speaker 6: because that's where he came from. He came from Philly,

658
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Speaker 6: who had the best offensive line of football and the

659
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Speaker 6: best defensive line of football, and that is a big

660
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Speaker 6: reason why they were in the Super Bowl. But you've

661
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Speaker 6: also as Montiasa for it. You look at roster construction

662
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Speaker 6: and if you can find that corner that is that guy,

663
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Speaker 6: you're getting him for cheap. If you're trying to get

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Speaker 6: an elite corner. In free agency, you're paying a premium,

665
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Speaker 6: so just roster construction. If you can find an elite

666
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Speaker 6: corner at you know, if we're picking at eleven and

667
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Speaker 6: you plug that hole for four or five years before

668
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Speaker 6: you have to dish out a big contract extension, and

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Speaker 6: you find that guy at corner and you believe he's

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Speaker 6: the guy, then I think you do have to make

671
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Speaker 6: that move because you're getting a premium position for really

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Speaker 6: cheap on his rookie contract.

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Speaker 4: So Mani assin Ford a first time GM, but fifteen

674
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Speaker 4: plus years in NFL war rooms between New England and Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: and it's that experience he talked about with the media.

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Speaker 7: It's a unique experience.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: I think by Thursday night, the decisions have been made.

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Speaker 7: Our board is our boards, so it's not a what

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Speaker 7: are you thinking here? Which way? Like we know which

681
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Speaker 7: way we're going to go, right. I think what we

682
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Speaker 7: want to reserve the time for is if the phone

683
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Speaker 7: ranks one way or the other. So the debate on

684
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Speaker 7: the which player player A or player B, that's that's done.

685
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Speaker 7: That's over. It's really waiting to see the draft strategy

686
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Speaker 7: and moving around the board and seeing if it makes

687
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Speaker 7: sense and drawn upon my experiences of seeing that happen

688
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Speaker 7: my years that that's what I'm going to draw upon.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, Darren, over my years of being

690
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Speaker 4: a sports radio blowhard, I've always I've always adhered to

691
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Speaker 4: the belief that quality trump's quantity, Meaning if you make

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Speaker 4: a trade for a superstar, almost assuredly the team that

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Speaker 4: gets the superstar has won the deal, as opposed to

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Speaker 4: a number of just average players or draft picks that

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Speaker 4: are unknowns. You're trading for a known versus an unknown.

696
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Speaker 4: But in this case, if you were to give up

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Speaker 4: or cash in that number three pick and instead of

698
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Speaker 4: Will Anderson, and some team wants the quarterback, and all

699
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're getting a pick a top round

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Speaker 4: two and a pick a top round three and or

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Speaker 4: a future first round pick. When you consider your franchise

702
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Speaker 4: quarterback is going to be injured for an x amount

703
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Speaker 4: of time this year, I can see the Cardinals hitting

704
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Speaker 4: zoom out on the rebuild for two years and valuing

705
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Speaker 4: those extra players, especially since it's such a deep draft

706
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Speaker 4: and so many position groups that they cut.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I need to double check with Jonathan

708
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Speaker 5: Gannon right now. I want to know if he heard

709
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Speaker 5: you just say rebuild. I don't know if he's up

710
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: out in the field right now cringing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he doesn't like the word rebuild.

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Speaker 5: I will say that that's exactly right. I mean, you're

713
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Speaker 5: talking about dealing an unknown quality quantity for an unknown

714
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Speaker 5: quantity right now because we don't know, as we said earlier,

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Speaker 5: we don't know what these draft picks are going to

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Speaker 5: turn into. So it is easier to make those deals.

717
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Speaker 5: And ultimately, none of the positions that we're talking about,

718
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Speaker 5: whether it's a premiere cornerback, whether it's a premier edge rusher,

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Speaker 5: those you're not getting those in free agency. They're just

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Speaker 5: not available. You're hoping that you have one that you

721
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Speaker 5: can grow with that you can pay a lot of

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Speaker 5: money to because chances up because the guys that are

723
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Speaker 5: getting that kind of money in free agency, those guys,

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Speaker 5: they're not. It's not Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 6: It's a tear down.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: Every once in a while, you can.

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Speaker 5: Get a Hassan Reddick that who is on the fragent market. Twice,

729
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: by the way, after he left the Cardinals, got signed

730
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Speaker 5: to the Panthers and they didn't keep him either until

731
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Speaker 5: he went to the Eagles. So you know, again, if

732
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Speaker 5: you can find a guy at either of those positions

733
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Speaker 5: that can develop into your next Patrick Peterson, I think

734
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Speaker 5: that's something you got to seriously consider it. And again

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Speaker 5: going back to what I said earlier, why you know,

736
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Speaker 5: it's unfortunate the Cardinals are in the position there are

737
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Speaker 5: roster wise, but it gives them a lot of options

738
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Speaker 5: in terms of their early pick to say, Okay, the

739
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Speaker 5: great edge rusher isn't there, and that's what we need,

740
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Speaker 5: but we also need a really good cornerback and that

741
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Speaker 5: is here, so we can take that instead of forcing

742
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Speaker 5: taking the edge rusher just because that's the one thing

743
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Speaker 5: you really have to have.

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Speaker 4: So how do you answer that, Kyle Vanenbosch, You know,

745
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Speaker 4: quantity versus quality. If we're saying Will Anderson is an

746
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Speaker 4: ex von Miller, is there any number of picks that

747
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: is truly worth giving up on that? If look at

748
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: the Jets last year, was Sauce Gardner at number.

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Speaker 3: Four, right?

750
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Speaker 4: I mean he is a lockdown all pro corner at

751
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Speaker 4: after his rookie season. Would you rather have a Sauce

752
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Speaker 4: Gardner that kind of guy at that position or an extra.

753
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Speaker 3: Two or three picks?

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Speaker 6: Well, if he is a slam dunk, I think you've

755
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Speaker 6: got to take the quality. But again, yeah, I mean

756
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Speaker 6: it's so tough not knowing how they have these players graded.

757
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 6: And maybe they have players in the ten to fifteen

758
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: range that are slam dunks as well. Like I just

759
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Speaker 6: I don't know, They've got to weigh that, like what

760
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Speaker 6: they put either a number or a color. I don't

761
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Speaker 6: know their system on how they great players and rank them.

762
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Speaker 6: But like, if we get two guys that are nines

763
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Speaker 6: out of tens, is that better for our roster than

764
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Speaker 6: one guy that's a ten out of ten? You know,

765
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Speaker 6: and that it just depends how they have these players

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Speaker 6: ranked in their positions and how they think that they're

767
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Speaker 6: going to translate those skills that they showed in the

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Speaker 6: college game to the NFL game.

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Speaker 4: For example, if you get that extra round two pick

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Speaker 4: and it's a top round two and a guy like

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Speaker 4: Mazzi Smith drops down, these defensive linemen, these defensive tackles

772
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Speaker 4: you so desperately need after JJ Lot and Zach Allen,

773
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Speaker 4: Brian Brasci out of Clemson, you know, one of those

774
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Speaker 4: guys a Colijah can cancy out of hit one of

775
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Speaker 4: those guys I mean, that's a big key to your

776
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Speaker 4: front seven.

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Speaker 5: And Kwam Bolden Fuda Baker Byron Murphy. We talk about

778
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Speaker 5: those early first round picks, but those early second round

779
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: picks Carlos Dansby, that has worked out well for this team.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Hey, the Cardinals twenty twenty three home schedule Cayle Vanabosh

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Speaker 4: features NFC West Battles number thirty four overall, right, Kyle,

783
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Speaker 4: was that one?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 4: Okay, We're gonna go down memory lane here in a minute.

787
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Speaker 4: Or reminder, Cardinals home schedule. Not only the Seahawks, Niners,

788
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Speaker 4: and Rams, you have the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Falcons and Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: So for all your ticket information in this coming season,

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Speaker 4: Azycardinals dot com slash tickets, Azycardinals dot Com slash tickets.

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Speaker 4: We wrap up the Red Sea Reports Speaking Up, brought

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Speaker 4: to you by Seki.

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Speaker 15: Larry Fitzgeral, First round, two thousand and four, University of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 15: You know, it seemed like it took for or even

796
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Speaker 15: though I went in third pick as it seemed like

797
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Speaker 15: it took a long time, a lot of suspense. You know,

798
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Speaker 15: I actually never even got a visit to the Cardinal

799
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Speaker 15: wrong and take one visit. When I came out of

800
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Speaker 15: school with I was the San Diego Chargers, and after

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Speaker 15: they picked number one, I talked to Michae Lombardi on

802
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Speaker 15: the phone. He's a radios general manager at that time,

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Speaker 15: and he actually went to Valley for the military Academy

804
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 15: in my same school. So we had talked previously, and

805
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 15: so I initially thought I was gonna go number two

806
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 15: to Oakland, but they decided on taking Robert Gallery, and

807
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 15: then Dennis Green and Rye Grays drafted me here into

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Speaker 15: the Zona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Rolls can play to the fifteen defence cuts left at

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Speaker 2: a ten of the five of the hands up and

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Speaker 2: a touchdown.

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Speaker 15: I'm Larry Fitzgerald, and that's my draft story.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday, two thousand and four, Larry Fitzgerald drafted by the

814
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Speaker 4: Ears of the Cardinals, number three overall. Here in twenty

815
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: twenty three, Cardinals are selecting number three again, and everyone

816
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 4: can only hope that they have that sort of robust

817
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: draft pick a guy who's gonna be a certain first

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Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer. Larry Fitzgerald flashing back and remembering

819
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Speaker 4: he really truly thought he was going to be in

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Speaker 4: silver and black for quite a bit of time there, Darren.

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Speaker 5: I do think there was some thought there, but this

822
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 5: idea that Denny Green wasn't going to take him if

823
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: he was still around, I kind of cracks me up

824
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Speaker 5: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And most people are aware that once upon a time,

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Speaker 4: as a teenager in high school, Larry Fitzgerald was a

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Speaker 4: ball boy for the Minnesota Vikings. It was very instrumental

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Speaker 4: because he was around Chris Carter and Randy Moss, two

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Speaker 4: future Hall of Fame receivers. Denny Green was the head coach,

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Speaker 4: so it was sort of a natural. Indeed, he was

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Speaker 4: selected by Denny Green and the Cardinals. And then the

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Speaker 4: day after the draft, during the opening press conference, they

833
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Speaker 4: flashed back to the memories of Pat Tillman, who had

834
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Speaker 4: been killed just a few days earlier.

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Speaker 14: Arizona Cardinals number one pick. We bring him to the

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Speaker 14: Valley of the Sun. Why receiver to Wes at Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 14: Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 16: First, I was like to say thank you for having me.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's an honor and pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 16: You know, it's a very special time for me right now,

841
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 16: and you know, such a difficult time for the organization

842
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 16: as well with the loss that we all just had

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 16: just now. And you know, it's been difficult for us

844
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Speaker 16: as well as a family, you know, because we kept

845
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 16: up with you know, Arizona Cardinals growing up as well,

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Speaker 16: and we played him a few times, you know, when

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Speaker 16: I was a Minnesota Vikings ball boy, and you know,

848
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Speaker 16: he was one of our favorite players.

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Speaker 14: I never had the opportunity to meet Pat Tillman. I

850
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 14: had a world of respect for him because of what

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Speaker 14: he represented when he came out of high school, what

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Speaker 14: he represented as a walk on athlete on Arizona State,

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Speaker 14: what he represented and how he handled his performance at

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Speaker 14: Arizona State as a last round, picking a guy that

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Speaker 14: many people thought could not play in the National Football League.

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00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 14: It should have never been any doubt because Pat Tillman

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Speaker 14: always gave one hundred percent and so our heart felt

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Speaker 14: emotions go out to him and his family. And then

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Speaker 14: I also would say, though if you looked at USA today,

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Speaker 14: there was a full page story on Larry Fitzgerald, and

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Speaker 14: that story also as a picture of Larry and his family.

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Speaker 14: Carrol Fitzgerald, who passed away a little bit more than

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Speaker 14: a year ago in April, The Star wars of the Family.

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Speaker 14: A tremendous woman. I know her very well personally. I

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Speaker 14: spoke at both of her eulogies. Carol Fitzgerald will meet

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Speaker 14: Pat Tillman a day and two people in heaven will

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Speaker 14: lead the stampede for the Arizona cartains a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of emotion the day after the first round of

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Speaker 4: the two thousand and four draft. Pat Tillman a former

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Speaker 4: teammate of Kyle Vanenbosch. Kyle is a coach of high

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Speaker 4: schoolers these days. Do you ever flash back to Pat Tillman?

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Speaker 4: Do you ever use him as a reference or an

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Speaker 4: example in any sort of way. What's the curiosity level

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Speaker 4: out of some of these youngsters these days when it

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Speaker 4: comes to Pat Tillman.

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Speaker 6: Now, I mean that, first of all, the two people

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Speaker 6: in this segment that you're talking about, Larry Fasherald and

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Speaker 6: Pat Tillman. Jonathan Gannon, when he took this job, said

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Speaker 6: he wants players with football character, and you can't find

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Speaker 6: two better examples of guys that you want in your

881
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: locker room to show young guys. I was a young

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Speaker 6: guy when you know when Pat Tillman, when I shared

883
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Speaker 6: a locker room with him, we actually my rookie year.

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Speaker 6: We both sprained our ankles in the game against Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: and I remember coming in for treatment and we both

886
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Speaker 6: had similar ankle sprains. I was in the training room

887
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Speaker 6: getting treatment and Pat Tillman was out on the field

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Speaker 6: running sprints with a sprained ankle because he refused to

889
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Speaker 6: go in the training room and refuse to be injured

890
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Speaker 6: because he wanted to be there for his teammates, just

891
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Speaker 6: like he wanted to be there for his country. And

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Speaker 6: you know, I can't say enough about the type of

893
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Speaker 6: person he was, and not just the impact he had

894
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Speaker 6: on my life, at the impact he had on so

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Speaker 6: many people's lives, but you know, outside of you know

896
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Speaker 6: what the sacrifice, the ultimate sacrifice he made for our country.

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Speaker 6: You know, Pat Tillman was a great person to build

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Speaker 6: a team around into have in the locker room. And

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Speaker 6: the same goes for Larry Fitzgerald. And we can only

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Speaker 6: hope that we find one. And look, there, there's never

901
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Speaker 6: gonna be another Pat Tillman. There's never gonna be Larry

902
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Speaker 6: fits show. But we can find one or two guys

903
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Speaker 6: that are those type of guys that you can continue

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Speaker 6: to build around, and they will be Star Wars in

905
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Speaker 6: this locker room for years to come.

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Speaker 4: Seventh round pick nineteen ninety eight, far from a sure

907
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Speaker 4: thing to make that team. I covered that team. I

908
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Speaker 4: was in training camp. Pat Tillman made a heck of

909
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Speaker 4: an impact in training camp, and it just kept continuing

910
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Speaker 4: from there. You go to the two thousand and one draft. There,

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Speaker 4: Kyle Van and Bosch, you were thirty fourth overall. Right,

912
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: what Stan, what do you what do you tell the

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Speaker 4: kids about that? What are your lasting memories from your

914
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Speaker 4: draft experience back in the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was at home in Iowa with my family.

916
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Speaker 6: Obviously I wasn't a big enough name to be a

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Speaker 6: New York City guy for draft day. And you know,

918
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Speaker 6: looking at mock drafts then, which there was probably about two,

919
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Speaker 6: not the hundreds of mock drafts by everybody that has

920
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Speaker 6: a Twitter account, now, you know I was projected to

921
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 6: go late second, possibly early third, same as I don't

922
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Speaker 6: remember ever having a conversation or a meeting with the

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Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals, and so it kind of came, you know,

924
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Speaker 6: to to get that call early in the second, you know,

925
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Speaker 6: it was it was very humbling, and I was honored

926
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Speaker 6: and and to you know, get on the phone with

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Speaker 6: the team. You know, my first thing was just to

928
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Speaker 6: tell them just so you know, I don't know what

929
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Speaker 6: I can give you, but I'm gonna give you everything

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Speaker 6: I got. And that's all I did. And you know,

931
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Speaker 6: unfortunately my career got derailed here with injuries and and

932
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Speaker 6: really couldn't get healthy till later in my career. But

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Speaker 6: it's just, you know, regardless of where these players get picked,

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Speaker 6: these kids are fulfilling a lifelong dream to get an

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Speaker 6: opportunity to play the best game in the world at

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Speaker 6: the highest level. And and you you really you want

937
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Speaker 6: to sit back and see their joy and their emotion

938
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Speaker 6: to get their names called.

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Speaker 5: When I when I was I first my first full

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00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: year covering this team was two thousand so and that

941
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Speaker 5: was basically the first draft that I covered was Kyle's draft.

942
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Speaker 5: I remember going to him right after training camp to

943
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Speaker 5: do a feature story on him on the new rookie

944
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Speaker 5: starting defensive end. And part of the reason I wanted

945
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Speaker 5: to the angle of the story I took was You're

946
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Speaker 5: not Simeon Rice. And it's funny you at the time said,

947
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm just me. You know, you said all

948
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Speaker 5: the right things, but I think one of the reasons

949
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Speaker 5: the Cardinals really wanted Kyle Vanenbosch was that football character.

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Speaker 5: Simeon Rice is a great, great football player, but I

951
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Speaker 5: think the other stuff. I think the organization was ready

952
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Speaker 5: to have somebody in that position that was a little

953
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Speaker 5: bit more focused on just the football part. And I

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Speaker 5: think that's why they took Kyle so early. And I

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Speaker 5: know the injuries didn't work out, but history showed it

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Speaker 5: was a good pick.

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Speaker 4: Hey, if the Cardinals can get a bunch of Kyle

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Speaker 4: Vanenbosch is that's exactly what MANI and jg want to

959
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: see on this team, effective immediately. As Jonathan Gennis said

960
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Speaker 4: at the uniform on Bailey, you can't wait to see

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Speaker 4: Moni Austin Ford work the bones on Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: All of us are included.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if it'll be eight picks or more than

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Speaker 4: that after trade special thanks to jim Mo Mohundra and

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Speaker 4: Lauren Koble for Kyle, Vanna Buston, Darren urban On Fall calvyc.

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