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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the business

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Speaker 1: of sports.

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Speaker 2: The business of sports can be intimidating or hard for

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Speaker 2: a starting to break into. We really appreciate when our

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Speaker 2: owners are actually there, you know, with us through the journey.

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Speaker 3: Teams ours especially have been very intentional to diversify at

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Speaker 3: all levels of the company.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think we're in bolden years for the NFL

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Speaker 4: and college football.

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Speaker 2: Our demographic reach has continued to expande.

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Speaker 5: This is going to be really unlocking the streaming platform

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Speaker 5: for sports fans.

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Speaker 6: Sports evaluations are rising.

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Speaker 7: We'll see when they peak.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to be the best in your sport

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Speaker 8: Or Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we

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Speaker 8: discuss the big money in the world of sports. I'm

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Speaker 8: Vanessa Proudomo, and we're recording these special episodes on the

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Speaker 8: ground of Super Bowl sixty in San Francisco. We're going

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Speaker 8: to be speaking with some current and form NFL players,

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Speaker 8: super Bowl champions, and Hall of famers about their adventures

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Speaker 8: on and off the field. Now listen in to our conversations,

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Speaker 8: starting with NFL Hall of.

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Speaker 9: Famer Michael Irvin.

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Speaker 8: Michael Irvin, Michael, thanks so much for joining the Bloomberg

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 4: having me. And yeah, this is this is pretty nice

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Speaker 4: to be back out here in San Francisco. I'm with

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Speaker 4: hard rock bets and having a chance to be at

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Speaker 4: another super Bowl, especially here in San Francisco where I've

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Speaker 4: had so many encounters, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 4: went through this town to get to my super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I had to go through the people in this town.

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Speaker 4: So so it's always interesting to be back in San Francisco.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I mean, did a different way right on this.

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Speaker 4: Side, on this side, right right, more analytics, more being

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Speaker 4: hate me less. This way is the best way. Now,

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Speaker 10: But as an analyst, we're just coming to talk about

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Speaker 8: So let's talk about the Cowboys for a little bit.

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Speaker 8: You know, we gotta start there. They missed the playoffs

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Speaker 8: for the second consecutive year.

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Speaker 9: What are they what do they need to turn it

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Speaker 4: Listen, I had dinner with UH with coach Shatenheimer the

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Speaker 4: I really liked the conversation I had with them and

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Speaker 4: the things that they want to do. When you got

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Speaker 4: You got the tools now to put a defense together,

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Speaker 4: and let's see what happens. I used to get shot

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Speaker 8: So, Michael, I want to talk about the ventures that

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Speaker 8: you have going on. You just launching your podcast with

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Speaker 8: production company, Playmaker Productions, right.

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Speaker 9: Tell us more about that and what people can expect,

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Speaker 9: what kind of content.

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Speaker 4: And now for the first chance, because of the way

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Speaker 8: For people who don't know where that name comes from,

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Speaker 4: You could never not know where that name comes from.

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Speaker 10: What are you? Series? And then you'll.

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Speaker 4: watch games to help ourselves. Why do we watch games?

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Speaker 10: At the White House.

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Speaker 8: Well, so you're here with hard Rock bet tell us

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Speaker 4: But it's it's so good that you asked me this.

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Speaker 4: It's so good that you had this perfect girl. You

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Speaker 4: because you're right. This is my first time working with

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Speaker 4: and it's so perfect. It's hard rock bets hard rock.

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Speaker 4: That's why I had my Hall of Fame, my Hall

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Speaker 8: Well, Michael, thanks so much for joining Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, and I like you.

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Speaker 8: Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we discuss

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Speaker 7: Thanks for pronouncing my name correct. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 9: But that line would be crazy long though. People lovell see.

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Speaker 7: I'm giving it, you know, I'm giving.

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Speaker 9: Them something, some ideas, ideas, and.

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Speaker 11: It could be the t o the Aryl Lewins sponsored

450
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Speaker 11: by Sharpie pick a ball court. Are you guys hearing this?

451
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Speaker 11: You're hearing this, You're hearing that. Yeah, I'm giving you

452
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Speaker 11: guys some great ideas here. So yeah, but I love Pickaball.

453
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Speaker 11: I just picked it up last year. I've been playing consistently,

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Speaker 11: probably right around ten eleven months, and so I've made

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Speaker 11: some leaps.

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Speaker 7: And bounds since I picked it up last year.

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Speaker 11: Shout out to Marcellus Wyley who introduced me to the sport.

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Speaker 11: So you know Marcellus Whylle, h he has his own show.

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Speaker 11: He was on uh sports, uh sports something with Michelle

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Speaker 11: Beadle and all them. So yeah, he played with the

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Speaker 11: San Diego Chargers.

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Speaker 7: We both live in l A.

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Speaker 11: He converted his basketball court into a pickaball and so

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Speaker 11: he has this uh, this group thread that he sends

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Speaker 11: out to a mass thread to everybody, uh weekly monthly.

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Speaker 11: So for about about three or four months, he kept

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Speaker 11: sending me the text to come play pickaball. And I'm like,

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Speaker 11: Marcella's I'm like, I don't even know how to play pickaball.

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Speaker 11: I don't even have a paddle. Yeah, and he's a

470
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Speaker 11: had just come out learning blah blah blah. So I

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Speaker 11: went to I went to a store trying to find

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Speaker 11: me some some pickball paddles, and I saw there was

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Speaker 11: different brands.

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Speaker 7: That was Bulkans Sell, kirk Head, Yola. I'm like, I

475
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Speaker 7: didn't know what. I didn't even know what to pick up.

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Speaker 11: And then I saw these high price, these two hundred

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Speaker 11: fifty dollars for a paddle. Ben Jones's name was on

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Speaker 11: all these these Yola paddles, so I knew him and

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Speaker 11: then all these other guys. But now I'm very familiar

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Speaker 11: with a lot of pickaball players, uh, the brands and

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Speaker 11: the equipment.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 11: And I just partnered with CPX pickaball company out of Chicago,

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Speaker 11: so I have I have my own signature paddle. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: you guys watching you pick aball enthusiasts, go to CPX

486
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Speaker 11: pickaball dot com, pick up my my my signature paddle,

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Speaker 11: and let's go.

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Speaker 9: Hit the quicker audience. Lovell. I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 7: Do you know the best player in Bloomberg on the staff?

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Speaker 9: It's me.

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Speaker 7: He wasn't selling yourself, so I didn't really think.

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Speaker 9: I played with Larry for Oh yeah, okay, going on.

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Speaker 9: You know it's pretty good.

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Speaker 7: You cook, you in the kitchen, you know, I I

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Speaker 7: you can't cook. I'm going somewhere back.

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Speaker 9: I like the back I'm running across.

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Speaker 11: I was doing somewhere with it. I'm like, I'm like,

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Speaker 11: you seem like a lady likes to be in the kitchen.

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Speaker 7: I for pickleball. That's not appropriate. You don't want to

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Speaker 7: be in the kitchen.

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Speaker 9: You know, can't be in the kitchen. You can't be

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Speaker 9: in the kitchen. Not dnking isn't for me. I don't

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Speaker 9: like be Nowhorry, that's the thing.

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Speaker 11: So so you haven't gotten your DNK game that so

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Speaker 11: I have, so in my I do a lot of

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Speaker 11: speaking engagements, and so I always talk about my three

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Speaker 11: pillars of success, and there are three d's with that.

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Speaker 11: So I have a three DS of pickleball as well.

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Speaker 11: So my three d's of like my pillows of success

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Speaker 11: are desired, dedication, and discipline. But my three DS and

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Speaker 11: pickleball or drives, drops and dnks. Okay, in order to

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Speaker 11: be a really true pickball player, you gotta master those

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Speaker 11: three to really get your game up. So I don't know,

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Speaker 11: you have one or two of those games? What you

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Speaker 11: got to drive?

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Speaker 8: You got to Yeah, the drive, so you got one drop,

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Speaker 8: but thenk the dnky.

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Speaker 11: So how's your fineska? Are you nice with the hands?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? You know what it is. I'm I'm really decent

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Speaker 9: at a backhand. You know, I can get cross courts.

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Speaker 9: It's like my thing.

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Speaker 7: Oh I love I like that. I like that cross court. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I like crass court.

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Speaker 8: So I mean obviously also with your your brand Prototype

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Speaker 8: eighty one, you also have pickleball closed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, cross court essentials.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so if you go to Prototype eighty one dot com,

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Speaker 11: I have some performance wear which obviously like shorts, you

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Speaker 11: your dry fit shirt, some some you know, your your

530
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Speaker 11: your workout attire. And then but my elevated brand line

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Speaker 11: is called Cross Court Essentials.

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Speaker 7: That's that's it's gonna be really fine. I can see

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Speaker 7: cross fashion.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the market. Do you feel like it's.

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Speaker 11: Missing I said, more of your social that social club

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Speaker 11: vide obviously your wide leg comfy with a little fashion

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Speaker 11: to it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. All right, So let's talk about football

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Speaker 9: a little bit right now.

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Speaker 8: When you're looking at young receivers, who are you excited

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Speaker 8: about that you think gives a little bit of that

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Speaker 8: to vibe.

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Speaker 9: Maybe they're not there yet, but I don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't really see there are some. There's some that

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Speaker 11: have the physical aesthetics, but I don't think on a

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Speaker 11: consistent level they hadn't they haven't been able to do

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Speaker 11: and replicate what I did. Been showing some flashes. So

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Speaker 11: you think of your DK Metcals, your AJ Browns. Outside

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Speaker 11: of those two, there's really not any big receivers that

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Speaker 11: can obviously obviously play at every level of the game.

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Speaker 11: You got your short game, your middle of the game,

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Speaker 11: you know, over the middle, and then take the top off.

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Speaker 11: I was able to really kind of I think perfect

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Speaker 11: and craft a little bit of all of that, you know,

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Speaker 11: playing in the slot, playing outside, uh, being kind of

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Speaker 11: like a Swiss Army Knight, being multi.

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Speaker 7: Multi purpose in a sense.

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Speaker 11: You know, I played out of the backfield a little bit,

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Speaker 11: you know, I mean even lined up at quarterback. So

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Speaker 11: to be that type of athlete, and then the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 11: offensive staff to be have the confidence to put you

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Speaker 11: in those situations to to to excel that, that really

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Speaker 11: kind of shows you what type of athletes you really are.

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Speaker 11: Those guys that I just mentioned, they definitely have the

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Speaker 11: skill set. They got to be consistent and really just

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Speaker 11: be game changers. There's playmakers and there's game changers. Right now,

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Speaker 11: they're they're they're on the cust of being game changers.

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Speaker 11: But when you're with aj Brown, I wouldn't say he's

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Speaker 11: a game changer because if he was, the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 11: would put him.

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Speaker 7: A position in position to be that.

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Speaker 11: Uh, there shouldn't be a play or series where he

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Speaker 11: shouldn't touch the ball. They have another receiver on the

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Speaker 11: other side of him, Devonte Smith. I think they should

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Speaker 11: utilize him him more. But obviously the lack of success

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Speaker 11: that they had this year is due largely because of

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Speaker 11: the offensive coordinator. And I didn't really I didn't know

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Speaker 11: that because everybody's like, why aren't they Everybody wants to

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Speaker 11: replicate and duplicate what they did the year prior the

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Speaker 11: success that they had, they figured that the Eagles would

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Speaker 11: have gone back. I honestly felt like they would have

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Speaker 11: gone back with the with the crew that they had

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Speaker 11: because they.

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Speaker 7: Didn't have a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 11: Really, to be honest, I think they were playing with

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Speaker 11: the same uh and not better players this year than

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Speaker 11: they did last year. So they should have been a

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Speaker 11: shoe in to get back to the super Bowl. But

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Speaker 11: some of the things that played them throughout the beginning

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Speaker 11: of the season that uh that A. J. Brown alluded

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Speaker 11: to kind of you know, it came back to horne

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Speaker 11: them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: When we wrap up here, I want to get your

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Speaker 9: take on this.

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Speaker 8: The NFL has been doing a lot to you know,

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Speaker 8: to expand globalization, play all these other different places around

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Speaker 8: the world. What do you how do you think about that?

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Speaker 8: Do you think you know they're doing great job? Would

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Speaker 8: you like to see a team based in another country?

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Speaker 8: Do you think that would be helpful?

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Speaker 7: I don't know how.

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Speaker 11: I don't honestly, logistically, I don't know how that would

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Speaker 11: How would how that would work?

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Speaker 7: How far? How far away?

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Speaker 11: The only thing, the only way I could see that

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Speaker 11: is like having a team like in Canada, but to

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Speaker 11: have a team like overseas.

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Speaker 7: Ooh, that's a lot of travel.

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Speaker 9: So as a player, you wouldn't want. I don't you would.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't think. I don't. I don't know how feasible

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Speaker 7: that that that would be. I'm sure they could.

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Speaker 11: They probably want to tinker and experience, experience it and

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Speaker 11: experimented with it. But yeah, I don't know how many

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Speaker 11: voter I mean, I don't know how many players would.

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Speaker 7: Sign off on that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Ti, O, thanks so much for the time. We

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Speaker 9: really appreciate you. Know, you joined the Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 8: That was Hall of Famer Terrell Owens. Next up, we

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Speaker 8: will hear from dynamic wide receiver duo for the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 8: Jamar Chase and T Higgins. So, guys, welcome to the

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Speaker 8: Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 9: I'm so excited to have you here.

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Speaker 8: I'm joined by the Cincinnati Bengals stars T Higgins, Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 9: We're fresh off the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 8: See you look like you guys were having so much

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Speaker 8: fun out there last night, I had to go.

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Speaker 5: I definitely had a great time. You know, it's my

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Speaker 5: first pro bow you know. No, I'm blessed to even

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Speaker 5: say that, say I'm a pro bowler, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. But I had a great time, you know,

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Speaker 5: him and Joe made it easy for me.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, how was it like having everyone there together?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 9: I mean that's a special thing, rank to mar Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I felt like.

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Speaker 12: It was the Bengals Pro Bowl, if I'm being honest.

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Speaker 12: You know, you had a lot of weapons over there.

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Speaker 3: So why not?

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Speaker 8: So, I mean you ran a touch back, You ran

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Speaker 8: back for a touchdown last night.

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Speaker 9: Are you getting used to this football stoff tomorrow? Ready

644
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Speaker 9: for the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been hearing this so much early.

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Speaker 12: I must be number one pick for everybody on the

647
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Speaker 12: Olympics too, because I've been hearing this every day. If

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Speaker 12: I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind playing. I think that

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Speaker 12: would be pretty cool, just because I watched, you know,

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Speaker 12: the USA basketball team growing up my whole life. So

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Speaker 12: just just being a part of that as history, I

652
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Speaker 12: think that would be the coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 8: Right, because it's a new thing right for football players

654
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Speaker 8: to be able to be a part of that represent team.

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Speaker 9: You would say in a different way if you don't.

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Speaker 5: That opportunity to win, to go metal, Yeah, right for sure.

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Speaker 8: So you guys came out this new announcement today, really exciting,

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Speaker 8: Chasing Number One the talk show. Tell me about it, Jamar,

659
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Speaker 8: tell me about it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Chasing No. One, Chasing Number One. It's like

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Speaker 12: a you know, run on, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: So it's just a podcast for me, myself and Ta

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Speaker 12: Tea to explore and talk about any topic we can

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Speaker 12: and just open ourselves to new things, you know what

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Speaker 12: I'm saying. We're trying to do a lot of stuff

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Speaker 12: off the field and on the field. So off the field,

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Speaker 12: we're gonna start a podcast called Chasing No.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, can you tell me about why you guys want

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Speaker 8: to use your voice in this way to talk about

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Speaker 8: stuff off the field everything like that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, people only see us with our helmets on,

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Speaker 5: and don't really they hear us in the media and

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Speaker 5: in the media it's always about football, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. We want people to pick our brains, not

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Speaker 5: just about football. You know what I'm saying, give people

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Speaker 5: a different perspective of what we do, you know, off

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Speaker 5: the field, what we like to do for fun and

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Speaker 5: things like that.

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Speaker 8: So it's gonna run the gambit of just just all

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Speaker 8: things everything, just more than.

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Speaker 3: An athlete, you know what I'm saying, just do it

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 8: So why do this platform? Why with the overtime? Why

686
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Speaker 8: was this the right move tomorrow?

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Speaker 12: Well, overtime was you know, one of the best people

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Speaker 12: that helped us the most, also gave the most production

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Speaker 12: for us and more most of the viewers. So I

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Speaker 12: think that's the biggest thing to help us reach worldwide,

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Speaker 12: especially far as all age gaps. And it's just it's

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Speaker 12: just like why not I did? I did stuff with

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Speaker 12: overtime when I.

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Speaker 3: Was younger too, so you know it was a no

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Speaker 3: grunner for me.

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Speaker 8: So it was keeping that partnership going that family already have.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Yeah, So tell me about who you're.

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Speaker 8: Trying to reach, what stories you want to say, because

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Speaker 8: you said people only talk to you about football team,

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Speaker 8: So what else are you really looking to get out

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Speaker 8: there that you want to talk about you haven't been

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Speaker 8: able to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, sometimes we're gonna do like you know, live

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Speaker 5: live shows, on twitch his twitch and which we're live

705
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Speaker 5: right now, and you know, just I might go fishing,

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Speaker 5: and I mean we're talking while we fishing.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying things.

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Speaker 5: Like that, You know what I'm saying, things that we

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Speaker 5: are into outside of football.

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Speaker 8: So it's not just locker room talk. It's not just

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Speaker 8: stuff like that. It's on the mic whatever.

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Speaker 9: You guys are talking, all that you're talking about like

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Speaker 9: when you're playing whatever. Yeah, yeah, awesome.

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Speaker 8: So people can expect what would you say when you're

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Speaker 8: when you're trying to think of one characteristic that you're

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Speaker 8: trying to get people to understand from this show, Tom,

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Speaker 8: what would you want them to walk away with?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 12: Really, I feel like the biggest thing from podcast is

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Speaker 12: learning from others examples. The only way I can relate

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Speaker 12: this is from the post show, the posh podcast show

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Speaker 12: called The Pivot and with Ryan Klark, and I've been

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Speaker 12: on there, so I can understand the deep conversations that

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Speaker 12: we've had and the other topics that we've been on

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Speaker 12: that you know, I never sat there and thought about

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Speaker 12: and had a conversation with another person, Especially as an athlete.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times we go through stuff and we

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Speaker 3: don't talk.

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Speaker 12: So I feel like this is another way for us

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Speaker 12: to just talk and express ourselves and have like, you know,

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Speaker 12: let off steam without talking trash or anything.

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Speaker 8: You know. So when you're sitting there having those how

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Speaker 8: long are these episodes gonna be so you can really

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Speaker 8: get into those sorts of conversations.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna It's not gonna be too long,

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Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We want to keep everybody interesting. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You can't you can't drag it too long.

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Speaker 12: But we're gonna have some episodes where it might be

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Speaker 12: cut off leading into the next episode, so it might

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Speaker 12: be like like series sometimes, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: So it's definitely gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 8: Tell me about the role that media plays in your

744
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Speaker 8: life to you as you're trying to your voice out

745
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Speaker 8: there more and the way that it plays right now

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Speaker 8: just being an athlete.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, if I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: get my voice out there, you know, guys like overtime,

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Speaker 5: people like overtime, people like Bloomberg Radio, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, just put us out there and you know,

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Speaker 5: try to get our show to you.

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Speaker 6: Know, more viewers.

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Speaker 5: And things like that, as as for athletes, like it's

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Speaker 5: just football, you know what I mean, and things like that,

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Speaker 5: and we just want to be different.

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Speaker 8: When you guys started creating the idea for this show,

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Speaker 8: what did other things start like turning in your head, like, Oh,

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Speaker 8: I really like the idea of being in charge owning something.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean we both say yeah on that.

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Speaker 12: But I feel like a lot of things now that

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Speaker 12: we're trying to get into it's more off the field

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Speaker 12: for longevity, you know what I'm saying. We have kids now,

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Speaker 12: We got family gotta worry about. So at what day

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Speaker 12: and age are we gonna set ourselves down and teach

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Speaker 12: it to ourselves, you know what I'm saying, and put

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Speaker 12: ourselves through situations instead of hearing it from somebody about

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Speaker 12: how they did a situation. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 12: Because everybody has different situations. And I feel like when

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Speaker 12: we sit down and have these topics and have other

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Speaker 12: guests on and we get to learn from them, to

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Speaker 12: get to learn from us, and we get to hear

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Speaker 12: different universal situations. I think that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 8: So you're excited to not just have these conversations, but

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Speaker 8: to learn as well do it. So getting a little

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Speaker 8: bit back to football here now we're we're looking into

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Speaker 8: next season. For you guys in your in yourself, do

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Speaker 8: you have the same routine every off season or are

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Speaker 8: there things that you do tea that you try to

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Speaker 8: elevate every year?

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Speaker 5: Well, for me, I kind of keep it the same obviously.

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Speaker 5: You know I elevated well last year. I elevated like

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Speaker 5: all my you know my, I'm gonna say my muscles

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Speaker 5: and you know, getting getting better because I have a

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Speaker 5: history of you know, soft tissue injuries and things like that.

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Speaker 5: So that was my biggest thing was working on that

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Speaker 5: make sure I stay healthy all season, which which I did,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, other than concussions. But for me,

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Speaker 5: it's been the same thing that I was doing last year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, mao, are you same thing every year in the

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Speaker 8: off season or try to add new out?

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Speaker 3: I will always say you I try to add new things.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 12: Just expanding your game in so many ways is it's

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Speaker 12: hard but easy and you're only gonna know it if

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Speaker 12: you try in it, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 12: I think the biggest thing is me every year trying

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Speaker 12: to trying to work on something new or work on

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Speaker 12: more than something that I did last year so I

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Speaker 12: could be better at it when the season comes.

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Speaker 10: That's all.

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Speaker 8: Is there anything you've tried in the off season that

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Speaker 8: you were surprised about that really helped you elevate?

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Speaker 3: I mean no, not really, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 12: My production has been good, so like it's not like

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Speaker 12: my It's not like I'm looking at a particular thing

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Speaker 12: on my film where I need to get better at.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's stuff that I want

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Speaker 3: to get better at.

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Speaker 12: But I can't look at my film and say I'm

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Speaker 12: not doing it the best, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: So it's just about me remembering sometimes of the mentalness

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Speaker 12: when I'm tired.

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing. When you're mentally mentally tired, that's

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Speaker 3: the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, So what are you guys thinking about? What do

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Speaker 8: you when you have to do to get back here

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Speaker 8: next year? Obviously you guys can do whatever you can,

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Speaker 8: but as a team, when you go into the locker

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Speaker 8: room and the start of the season.

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Speaker 9: What are those things that you're going to be thinking

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Speaker 9: about for your goals?

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Speaker 5: Just really playing compamry football, you know, starting fast. I

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Speaker 5: think that's the main thing. Usually we start a little

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Speaker 5: slow and put ourselves in a you know, get behind

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Speaker 5: a little bit. I think we start fast and play

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Speaker 5: compa many football. I think we'll be all right.

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Speaker 8: So one of the other things I want to get

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Speaker 8: both your takes on as we wrap up here, is

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Speaker 8: the NFL is doing obviously this incredible job, was trying

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Speaker 8: to expand the game globally, and they just announced the

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Speaker 8: game in Paris.

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Speaker 9: Next year They're going to new places.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paris, I.

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Speaker 5: Feel I think it was like one of the only

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Speaker 5: teams that haven't been overseas to play.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I really hope that's us.

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Speaker 9: So they did announce the Saints so far, Yeah, I

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Speaker 9: don't think we do.

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Speaker 6: Think we play the same.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So hopefully you guys can get a game that's interesting.

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Speaker 9: You guys want to be able to play over.

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Speaker 5: Especially for me personally, I don't travel that much, which

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Speaker 5: I need to start, you know what I'm saying, But

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Speaker 5: I think it'd be dope.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, if you had to choose somewhere to go to

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Speaker 8: have a team based out of it in another country.

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Speaker 9: What would you say, where would you go?

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Speaker 3: Barcelona?

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Speaker 9: Barcelona?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasna.

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Speaker 9: Guys, thanks so much for joining Bloomberg Business Sports. I

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Speaker 9: super appreciate it you. That was Pro bowlers Jamar Chase

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Speaker 9: and t Higgins.

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Speaker 8: There's more Bloomberg Business of Sports coming up after this.

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 8: Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports, where we discussed

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Speaker 8: the big money in the world of sports. I'm Vanessa

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Speaker 8: Proudomo and we're recording these special episodes on the ground

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Speaker 8: of Super Bowl sixty in San Francisco. Now listen in

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Speaker 8: for a conversation with retired NFL tight end Kyle Rudolph,

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Speaker 8: who is working to make you sports more accessible. Kyle,

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Speaker 8: Welcome to the Bloomberg busin Sports. I'm so happy you're

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Speaker 8: here and we're getting to talk to you this year.

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Speaker 6: Likewise, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 9: You're working with.

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Speaker 8: Good sports and tell me about it, tell me about

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Speaker 8: why you work with them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't think of a better platform to have

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Speaker 2: than Bloomberg Sports of Business, because it's wild to think about.

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Speaker 2: Like youth sports has become a business. We all know

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Speaker 2: college sports has become a business. The term student athlete,

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Speaker 2: Like I was in college a long time ago, and

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Speaker 2: even then there was a business to college football. Now

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Speaker 2: it's just insane, and it's worked its way all the

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Speaker 2: way down to youth sports.

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Speaker 6: So I've worked with Good Sports.

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Speaker 2: For about a year and a half now understood their

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Speaker 2: mission for the very first time at a panel I

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Speaker 2: spoke on in New York City and it just really

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Speaker 2: resonated me with me as someone who clearly played youth

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Speaker 2: sports my whole life, learned so many lessons through youth sports. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough to play twelve years in the NFL,

886
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Speaker 2: and not every kid that plays youth sports is going

887
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: to go on and play professionally, but that doesn't mean

888
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't play youth sports all the way through

889
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: and on this platform talking about the business of sports,

890
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: like money has become a huge issue for youth sports.

891
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: These parents are, you know, refinancing homes and taking out

892
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: loans and working multiple jobs because they just have to

893
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: afford to give their child the equal resources that other

894
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: kids have to play youth sports. And you know, over

895
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: the history of the organization in Good Sports, They've donated

896
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: over one hundred and thirty million dollars and resources to kids.

897
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: And it's not just oh, well, you know, I have

898
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: an older brother and I've got hand me down cleats

899
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: that are three or four years old, and it's about

900
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: providing these kids, not not just the cleats themselves, but

901
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: I think I'm a new paraclets so they can go

902
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: out there and feel comfortable and be confident to perform

903
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: to the best of their abilities. And ultimately, it's like

904
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: one of the staggering statistics that I learned getting involved

905
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: with Good Sports is it's like seventy five percent of

906
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: parents consider taking their kids out of youth sports because

907
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: of money, just because of money. And you know, I

908
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: get it that there's the business opportunity across all of

909
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: youth sports, but it's such a shame when kids don't

910
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: get that experience because you learn so much about yourself,

911
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: You learn so much about you know, working with people

912
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: that come from different backgrounds, you learn so much about

913
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: handling adversity. I have four kids, nine year old identical

914
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: twin girls, seven year old boy, four year old boy,

915
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: and it's like I love watching them in youth sports.

916
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 6: I love seeing the passion that they have.

917
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: It sounds crazy to say, like I love seeing them

918
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: fail in how they handle that failure and then seeing

919
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: them succeed and the journey that started with the failure

920
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: and then they work really hard and then ultimately overcome.

921
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 9: That's such a professional athlete with you have to learn from.

922
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: I just always think like, oh, yeah, you play sports

923
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 2: because you're gonna be a pro one day. Like if

924
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: none of my kids ever play pro sports, who cares? Like,

925
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: I want them to love sports as much as I

926
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: did as a kid, because if you love something like

927
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: you're ultimately gonna work hard at it. And the work

928
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: ethic that sports instills in you is what really matters

929
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: in life, not if you play for twelve.

930
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 6: Years in the NFL.

931
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 8: It's such an interesting thing and the interesting point that

932
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 8: you're making that it's become almost a professionalization at a

933
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: young age, right, So how do you fix that?

934
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 9: How does the system get fixed? Do you think?

935
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, like we've opened this can of worms and it's.

936
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 6: It'll be really difficult to fix.

937
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's so incredible to have programs

938
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: and resources.

939
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 6: Like good Sports that youth sports are what they are

940
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 6: at this.

941
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: Point, so are we going to be able to put

942
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: the cat in the back of the bag?

943
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: No? Probably not.

944
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 2: But how do we make sure that a child who

945
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: is deserving of all these opportunities has the means and

946
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: resources to be able to take advantage of that. And

947
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: I think that's what good sports does you know as well,

948
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: if not better than anyone else.

949
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 8: Do you think there's an education piece for parents in it,

950
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 8: because I think some people don't know what they really

951
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 8: need to be doing.

952
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 9: What kind of sports are out there.

953
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 8: And I feel like I've talked to some of my

954
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 8: friends who are like, oh, I think I'm just gonna

955
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 8: put my kid into AAU, not knowing that's a very

956
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 8: high level to be at just to start, and it

957
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 8: costs a lot of money. Do you think there's an

958
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 8: education piece there that you can be in sports and

959
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 8: not have to spend that money.

960
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's a huge education piece too on like what

961
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: are you trying to get out of sports? Like what

962
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: is actually important for your kids? Because again I see it.

963
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: I laugh about stories of my kids, you know, being

964
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: at the rink for hockey. Lived in Minnesota for a

965
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: long time. A lot of NHL guys, their kids are

966
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: playing and we're all like kind of sitting on the

967
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: side chatting up, laughing, And then you have a bunch

968
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: of dads that are like expecting their kids to be

969
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: in the NHL one day, and it's like, that's not

970
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: that's not what this is about.

971
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 6: Like this is this is about the.

972
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: Lessons that they learn, you know, teamwork, adversity, hard work.

973
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: So I wish, you know, I wish there was an

974
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: education piece because these parents just.

975
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 6: Can't help themselves.

976
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they want little Tommy or Susie to like

977
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: be a professional athlete at some point, and it's like,

978
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: why don't you just let them be a kid.

979
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 8: I think there's a statistic that I know it's either

980
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 8: one out of ten or one out of eleven parents

981
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 8: think their child under the age of ten will become

982
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 8: a professional athlete.

983
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: So much changes from under ten, which is crazy, Like

984
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: so much changes from ten to fourteen, fourteen to eighteen, physically, mentally, emotionally.

985
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: You could be we all knew that kid that was

986
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: the best player in our on our team or in

987
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: our league or in our city when we were ten

988
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: or twelve or fourteen, and they may have may not

989
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: made it to play pro sports, like a lot has

990
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: to go right. You're very lucky to get to that,

991
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, top one percent of the one percent to

992
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: be able to play pro sports.

993
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 8: The other interesting thing that is a problem right now

994
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 8: in U sports that people say is kind of plaguing

995
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 8: the system is specialization at a young age.

996
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 9: What do you think about that?

997
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I grew up as a kid who

998
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: played three sports. Would have played more if we have,

999
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: but I grew up, you know, like we didn't have

1000
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: lacrosse where I grew up, Like it was baseball in

1001
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: the spring, and then you have track in the spring,

1002
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: and you know, there's just so many opportunities now to

1003
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: play all these We encourage our kids to play everything.

1004
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: If you love it, you're going to work harder at it,

1005
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: You're going to fight through the tough times, the adversity.

1006
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: But we're not just gonna play baseball. We live in Florida.

1007
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: You're not just gonna play baseball all year round. You're

1008
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: not going to just play hockey all year round, basketball

1009
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: year round.

1010
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 6: Football. Now it's changed.

1011
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: Back in the day, it was you know, ten weeks

1012
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: in the fall, but now there's seven on seven leagues

1013
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: and all these different things. So I think it's incredibly

1014
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: important to play as many sports as you can. It's

1015
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: good physically develop a wide range of skills, but also

1016
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: you're not over using the same thing that if you

1017
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: just skate twelve months out of the year, play baseball

1018
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: all the time and you're constantly throwing the ball, like

1019
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: your body at that age is not meant to do

1020
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: one thing all the time. And that's why I think

1021
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: we're seeing a lot more injuries in youth sports too.

1022
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 8: Absolutely, one of the things that's blowing up in youth

1023
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 8: sports in a positive light flag football. Yeah, you know,

1024
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 8: tell me about that and about how that also able

1025
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 8: to introduce it.

1026
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 9: To women as well and girls girls in football.

1027
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's awesome. I think you know, what

1028
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: what flag does is it ultimately broadens the reach of

1029
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: the game of football. You know, you mentioned it young girls.

1030
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: It's awesome seeing young girls, you know, go out there

1031
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: and either play against boys, kick the boys butts, compete

1032
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: with the boys, but have the opportunity to understand a

1033
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: game that was for the longest time predominantly male, understood

1034
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: by men. Men grow up in the game, so men

1035
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: are the ones becoming coaches, front office scouts, you know,

1036
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: you look at what Jim Irsay's daughter is doing in

1037
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: in Indy, you know, takes over the team and it's

1038
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: like she's invested, she understands it, she's in meetings, and

1039
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: it's so cool to see that as someone who has

1040
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: two daughters. Uh, they play fight football at school, Like

1041
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: I remember, they come home and like they're tell me

1042
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: about it. My daughters are talking about football and it's

1043
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: certainly something that I never would have expected ten fifteen

1044
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: years ago.

1045
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 8: Now we're talking about we're talking about the growing reach

1046
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 8: of football.

1047
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 9: I'd love to hear your take on this.

1048
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 8: Their NFL's has done a lot of job about growing

1049
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 8: the rereach globally.

1050
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 9: Tell me you know what.

1051
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 8: You think about that about playing in different countries and

1052
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 8: how that's been able to grow the game in a

1053
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 8: different way as well.

1054
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 6: I think it's cool.

1055
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: You're also talking to someone who played twice in London,

1056
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: once in Germany and was three and oh abroad, so

1057
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: I never had to fly home after losing, which may

1058
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: change my perception on international games. But in terms of

1059
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: the league, in reach and growth and fandom, it's like

1060
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: we have such a great game and now they're educating others.

1061
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: I remember in twenty thirteen, I went to the UK

1062
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 2: for like an NFL road show where we were literally

1063
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: going from city to city Dublin, Manchester, Leeds, London, just

1064
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: talking about football. Have you ever heard of the sport

1065
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: Like when the ball gets kicked, it's usually not good,

1066
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: Like that's a punt or a kick, that's a change

1067
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: of possession because for them, like they just cheered when

1068
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: the ball gets kicked.

1069
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: That's what they're used to.

1070
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's been really cool to see. Ultimately, like, okay,

1071
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: we're here to talk about the business of sports. How

1072
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: much room you know, unless another Taylor Swift phenomenon is

1073
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: going to hit the NFL and bring new viewers in

1074
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: America to the NFL. Like the NFL market is tapped,

1075
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: So how do you grow global? So I think there's

1076
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: nine international games next year, going to Australia, going to Paris, multiples,

1077
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: uh you know news stop.

1078
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 6: I think they're in.

1079
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Uh Brazil again, like just really really cool places. I

1080
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: loved all my trips abroad. I thought they were a

1081
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: ton of fun.

1082
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 8: You, as someone who's played and multiple and played three

1083
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 8: and in different countries, do you think that there's a

1084
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 8: feasibility that a team could be based overseas.

1085
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: Logistically, that's the hard one. I know there's been a

1086
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: ton of talk about a team in London, and you know,

1087
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: can you do it with like, is there kind of

1088
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: a home base here where maybe they come over here

1089
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: for four weeks and they're not flying back and forth

1090
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: And if the NFL can figure it out logistically, I

1091
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't put it past them. But you know, I think

1092
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: that the path is probably going to be more so

1093
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: do we add another game to the regular season so

1094
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: now we're playing eighteen games.

1095
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 6: Every team will play.

1096
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: Internationally at least once a year, so you're still bringing

1097
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen games internationally, but it's not just one team

1098
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: whose home base is there.

1099
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 9: Kyle, thanks so much for joining Bloombergvin's the Sports. It's

1100
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 9: great to stalk him.

1101
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

1102
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 9: That was retired NFL player Kyle Rudolph.

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