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Speaker 1: The volume. All right, we're back another episode of Club

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Speaker 1: five to twenty podcasts. Were on the road for a

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Speaker 1: special guest. We got me in a special place.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: We pulled up to Phoenix one time for the camp

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Speaker 1: long away the episode. Man, they've been asking about him.

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Speaker 1: Happy we could deliver. But to my far left, we

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Speaker 1: got my dog Bi should be hearing out the pearles.

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Speaker 2: How you was.

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Speaker 3: Nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to her baby.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, he got a uniform so

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Speaker 1: you dont get him out of uniform and yo shoes.

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Speaker 3: That's a big deal with you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Three strips forever to make sure it's straight. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: he got the lady change the lacers in there. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I freaked them out. I made them me sure that's

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Speaker 3: your flavor.

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Speaker 2: Run for show.

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Speaker 1: To my right and my dog young not your young tig.

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Speaker 2: How you are man Schilling?

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm like, we got one of the special players

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Speaker 4: in the bill on top seventy five. Person, I'm a

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Speaker 4: huge fan of I'm really shitty. I ain't get that colorway,

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Speaker 4: but I may you know what I'm saying, A big

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Speaker 4: three player this league.

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Speaker 1: Hey say, man, we talk about this. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you back in in the three strikes, Man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta work something now with Jy'll. I'm

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Speaker 4: about to go on my little rent like Bassie, shut

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Speaker 4: up to the guy.

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Speaker 3: We love you, we love you, we love you, but.

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Speaker 1: Till my left.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We got a special special guest man, one of the

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Speaker 1: coats to touch a basketball, like my bro said, top

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Speaker 1: seventy five and he get busy off the court. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, music going crazy and if you

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Speaker 1: do too much, you know what I'm saying. The hands

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Speaker 1: is legit too. We got wanted the coachters to ever

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Speaker 1: do it. Dame Dalla Damian Little appreciate you sliding on

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Speaker 1: this big.

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Speaker 2: Dog for sure. Bro, appreciate you all having a.

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Speaker 1: Long time coming.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: People been asking for this episode, you know something, trying

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Speaker 1: to make an all star, but know that the weather

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Speaker 1: was too crazy.

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Speaker 2: We got straight to it, man, But.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we gotta start with the origins with you, man,

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Speaker 1: because yo, yo, let your history, by your your career

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Speaker 1: is so crazy. Be here. We got to talk about

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Speaker 1: the high school days.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I want to tap in with you. What's

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Speaker 3: the let's go back all the way to you. Was

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Speaker 3: you rocking with the guys or did you just know

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Speaker 3: the city with the rebels.

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Speaker 1: No, that was like my childhood neighborhood type program. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: like I started with him in elementary school.

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Speaker 2: And ship.

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Speaker 1: That was like my first real friends outside of my

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Speaker 1: other you know, Nora Cali Lee. We had a couple

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Speaker 1: other like programs that was sponsored. They was getting all

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Speaker 1: the shoes. Yeah, but then I was like like these

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's hard, bro.

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Speaker 2: I stayed with the team. Uh shit. We was in

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Speaker 1: Then we got older, we started getting into the other

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Speaker 2: But that was it. I stayed with the local program.

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Speaker 3: Him. Got a similar story guys too. That's why I

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Speaker 4: I did that, but yeah, I switched my senior year.

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Speaker 4: Rock was the guys like that, Bro, I wasn't getting offers.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I forgo this out. Now we had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't half we didn't, I ain't getting no

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Speaker 2: That's me. I was going to your senior year jump down.

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Speaker 3: Who was your first one?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was my first offer.

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Speaker 1: I remember we had uh we played against this dude

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Speaker 1: It was another game next to us, and it was

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Speaker 2: They just offered me right after the game. Killed buddy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, took his spot. That was the story right there.

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Speaker 1: It was over fast too. I've seen one coach. That

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Speaker 3: Too, So I was like crazy, damn. See I was

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Speaker 2: Not even that for real. Nobody we was in Oakland.

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Speaker 1: Everybody came, but on it was just us.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So for you to go to that head un til

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Speaker 1: you already made that decision he was rocking with. Weaver stated,

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Speaker 1: because they showed interested you early. How was it going

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Speaker 1: to your like getting to college after that crazy high

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Speaker 2: I mean when I got there, it was it was cool,

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Speaker 1: They was just telling me like, man, you gotta earn

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Speaker 1: you home. It was just hella, damn. They just ran

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Speaker 1: Like I remember dying after conditioning and thinking like I

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Speaker 1: So I got through the first day we started playing pickup.

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Speaker 2: He actually here at camp.

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Speaker 1: He was like five six, five seven, but he was

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Speaker 1: They made me the point guard in him the two

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Speaker 1: when that's when shit change. That's crazy. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you getting recruited, you know what I'm saying. They tell you, hey,

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Speaker 1: you the best. We can't wait till you get here,

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Speaker 2: For real.

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Speaker 4: Me and him got a very similar story because that's

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Speaker 4: how I was awake for us. I ain't started my

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Speaker 4: first five six games. We had it'sh Smith, So it

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Speaker 4: I got a chance to play point. But I was

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Speaker 4: just thinking. I'm like, shit, you was a past first

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Speaker 2: It's my guy, Lou, I'll never forget.

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Speaker 4: I think it might have been your junior year because

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Speaker 4: and he was like, it's this dude a Weaver State.

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Speaker 4: That's nasty. And I was like he nasty. Was like, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this nigga gassing now, Like I ain't

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Speaker 4: going for all that. Then he was like, no, you

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Speaker 4: gotta watch you. So he the game came on, y'all

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Speaker 4: came on latest. Hell, we watched it and you were

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Speaker 4: shooting fadeaways. I'm like, buddy, got the greed. He wilding

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Speaker 4: like he wilding here, but you have bounced. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: he was like, bro, he gonna go top five. I

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Speaker 4: I was like, they ain't playing nobody. He was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: never forgot like, you gotta go against this dude named

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Speaker 4: Dang You gotta get to work out with him.

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Speaker 2: That nigga to me and said, I ain't about.

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Speaker 1: To work out against him. Said he was like, man,

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Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, he liked that. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: seen you at Adida's Nations.

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Speaker 1: That bro, That's that's the funniest story because when I

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Speaker 1: nobody knew who I was at Adida's Nation yet he

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Speaker 1: Obviously I knew who all them niggas was, but when

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Speaker 1: one day I see them all like on the baseline,

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Speaker 1: the moments I got to stay in my ground, like

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Speaker 2: Sucker or something like.

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Speaker 1: So they all had their little talk or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: then Will Barton walked over there like, hey, like you

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Speaker 1: de Ro's cousin. Like they thought I got in camp.

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Speaker 1: I was a de Ro's cousin. I'm like, nah, I

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Speaker 1: go to weeper. They're like okay. I'm like so the

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Speaker 1: whole time, I'm thinking they talking shit or something. They

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Speaker 1: thinking I'm in camp because I'm de Ro's cousin. Like

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Speaker 1: that's how they thought I got in camp.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. Brother told me.

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Speaker 4: They was like, bro, he was so cold, and he

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Speaker 4: was like, nah, he cold. And then you went, nah,

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Speaker 4: I played you my rookie. Yeall, never forget cause now

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Speaker 4: I always had this thing about rookies. I'm like, if

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Speaker 4: I seen you watch you sat there, you and DV

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Speaker 4: y'all sit there before the game and like watch people

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Speaker 4: warm up. I'm like, why are you watching me?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm about to get in his head.

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Speaker 4: So I start woman up for you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: Shooting like yeah, he would pay me No. He was like.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'm going at him

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Speaker 4: first place. I'm telling people like, hey, we're gonna see

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Speaker 4: you can hoop. I'm like, damn, this nigga cold. He

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Speaker 2: He about to be the one. And after that it

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Speaker 2: He don't want.

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Speaker 1: It was the same thing like you had them matchups

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Speaker 1: They're gonna tell you about c P and Darren Williams,

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Speaker 3: I got this question, man, why the hell did you wears?

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Speaker 2: Bro don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Oakland, respect my college is in Ogden, Utah.

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Speaker 1: And then I got drafted in Orgon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was just.

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Speaker 3: I was just making sure that have story like him.

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Speaker 3: Nigga wants to be named after I mean where it's

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Speaker 3: number because of Drew. They had the mohawk to get

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Speaker 3: the league was just asking you what you.

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Speaker 2: Give them with my favorite players?

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Speaker 3: Yea with Drew good on March man get I just

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Speaker 1: That's crazy that gonna put this outside up of this shit. Lewis,

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Speaker 1: if you do that?

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Speaker 2: Bro quick?

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Speaker 3: Did you come into the league comfortable though, ready to

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw, and he started taking me to

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Speaker 2: I got the.

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Speaker 1: Summer league, and summer League was kind of easy, like

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Speaker 1: it wasn't really a lot of dudes that's actually in

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Speaker 1: And that's where, like you said, even you know what

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Speaker 1: you had already been thrown the fire. And I can

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Speaker 1: imagine playing pick up with Corey mcgaeddiytth Orange. You was

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Speaker 1: getting no foul off.

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Speaker 2: Nah, they was.

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Speaker 1: It was big and they was physical, so it was

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Speaker 1: So it was and I couldn't come in there calling

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Speaker 2: So it was that Shi. It was definitely. It was

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Speaker 3: For me for Kobe play in that first game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did?

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Speaker 1: How was that shit? The first five minutes, I was

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Speaker 1: he wasn't paying me no mind, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: something like that. He ain't say shit, just so that

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Speaker 1: because it was like, you're naturally gonna take it a

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Speaker 2: It kind of it flipped back to that, you know,

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Speaker 4: Think it's dope that you got handed the balls soon

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Speaker 4: as you got in the league, Like I want to

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Speaker 4: ask you, you know, you know how I go so

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Speaker 4: like if you didn't, how you think your career would

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Speaker 4: have went? Like you would have had to sit and

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Speaker 4: I had to play. Were about to interview Bibby one

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Speaker 4: You kind of lose your offense a little because you're like,

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Speaker 4: it ain't no way. I'm this sad, but I'm glad

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Speaker 4: they didn't do that to you. I'm glad you got

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Speaker 4: hitted the ball because, like you said, you're a top

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Speaker 4: seventy five player. I want the greatest to do it,

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Speaker 4: Like what you did you want that moment like to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, shit, a lot of people's career

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Speaker 1: be dependent on that. Like there's a lot of dudes

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Speaker 1: I was always telling myself like, shit, I might be

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Speaker 1: in the G League, I might be on the bench.

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Speaker 1: I ain't no telling. But I think once I got

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Speaker 1: And I think just like how I was able to

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Speaker 1: He just let me go. And I think that was

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I knew how to lead

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Speaker 1: I knew what it took, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: to be the guy, but also like not make it

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Speaker 2: So coming in and.

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Speaker 1: his twenty four attempts, but to him handling the ball

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Speaker 3: I was ready you already.

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Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I went to the perfect environment too, like going to

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Speaker 1: some of my family moved up there. It was like quiet.

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect environment. Did you go to mawk

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Speaker 1: when you got to the league? What did you want

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Speaker 1: Man we be.

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Speaker 2: We one of the more underwrited players.

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Speaker 3: L A was like, that makes sure easier for you?

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Speaker 1: Made it way easier. I mean teams was really paying

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Speaker 1: Being in the pick and roll with him, like he popping,

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Speaker 1: he making every jumper, I'm throwing it to him on

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Speaker 2: They going to get him.

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Speaker 1: I'm standing there by myself like coming off picking rolls

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Speaker 1: getting Like my rookieyear, I started every game with an

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Speaker 1: literally won two three dribbles to the elbow, pull up

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Speaker 1: Damn there every time, So like playing with him. I

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Speaker 2: But he was that good.

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Speaker 3: Facts like, he.

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Speaker 2: Was that good.

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Speaker 3: It was fact and batoon, motherfucker sleep on batoon. Batoon

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Speaker 1: Bro Bro killing last season. Bro, he just killed this

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Speaker 1: last post season.

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Speaker 2: He was he was. I hated playing now. They used

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Speaker 2: to do this little flairge little will you know we

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Speaker 3: Pike.

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Speaker 4: I took y'all playing, Yeah, that's our that's that's our offense.

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Speaker 4: I was like, it's no way you can't use it.

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Speaker 4: It's terrible. Y'are doing all these flares. And when you

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Speaker 4: when CJ started playing, y'all had the hand doing stuff

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we was using it. Running off that I was

444
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 1: like getting fifty you know.

445
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,920
Speaker 4: So that offense was crazy, But playing them, you knew

446
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,159
Speaker 4: you was about to get you played in Portland, he

447
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 4: was getting beat we knew from the East Coast team.

448
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,400
Speaker 2: He was like, you're gonna take hell in Portland. It's cool, though.

449
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 1: It's hard to win there, especially when travel. That crowds crazy,

450
00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,800
Speaker 1: ye heard y'all.

451
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,000
Speaker 3: And Sacramento got one of the two of the toughest

452
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,760
Speaker 3: crowds in the NBA.

453
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 1: It used to be like that. That just got like

454
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,600
Speaker 1: that over the last couple of years. It was like

455
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 1: that with Bib and them down for a while and

456
00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 1: then the last I say two three years it got crazy.

457
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

458
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 1: Just speaking that, I gotta ask, what's the most hostile

459
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 1: game you've been there, like as far as like environment,

460
00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 1: like location wise, man, because you don't have been to

461
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,720
Speaker 1: some battles I say, either at Golden State or at

462
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,200
Speaker 1: OKC like when they was nice, nice like at okay See.

463
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 2: But Golden State just tough because like.

464
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 1: Playing them in the playoffs, you like, we played them

465
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 1: I think my fifth year, or maybe it was my

466
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 1: fourth year. It was my fourth year. We played them

467
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 1: in the second round. We beat the Clippers. We played

468
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 1: Golden State and we was up double digits every game,

469
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, we like we lost four to one,

470
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 1: but we could have beat them for to one, but

471
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 1: we'd be up nine and it'll be five minutes left

472
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. We going to the fourth quarter

473
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: down eight, and it's like it happened fast too.

474
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 2: It's like they hit one three.

475
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: You hear the crowd, You see everybody stand up and

476
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: somebody taking the ball out and you just looking around

477
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: like damn, it feel like we down twenty, they come

478
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 1: back hit another one. It's like, just see the game

479
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: just that was That's the only crowd I played against

480
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 1: at Oracle or like we could be winning and it

481
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: felt like the game was like slipping away.

482
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 2: Damn.

483
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: Like that's how crazy it was in there. Like Steph

484
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: hit a three play hit it three like time out

485
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 1: like that, walked back to the bench.

486
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: Was like devastating.

487
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 3: Damn toughest matchup, bro, Golden State, It's what Steph? You

488
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: and Steph one on one?

489
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: Uh? I mean Stephan, he just he just constantly moving. Yeah,

490
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: you just can't lose track of Steph. Like he he

491
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: definitely wanted the toughest. I think just one on one.

492
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 1: I say, like, Kyrie, a tough matchup. What's up, Kyrie?

493
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: Just a tough because you can guard him perfect, he'll

494
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 1: still make it either hand bumping them like fat like it,

495
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: like he just and he he do it when it

496
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: don't look like it's hard too. Somebody do it and

497
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 1: they feel like they just did it smooth and it's

498
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: all that. You'd be like, damn, like that can turn

499
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: into him making every shot.

500
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: He spoke on Kyrie early.

501
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 4: At one point in my career, I guarded Kyrie more

502
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 4: than anybody in the NBA.

503
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 2: Y'all played the line get killed every time.

504
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 6: No.

505
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 4: I was when I was in Milwaukee. They was like

506
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: he was playing Brooklyn. It was like, you can guard him.

507
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 4: You guard him the most of anybody in his career.

508
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: I was like, put that better.

509
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: We got swept every year, don't guess.

510
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: Trying to get you to believe, trying to like, nah,

511
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: I was already done. I don't believe that you're gonna

512
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 1: stay on him, hurt him, hurt Kyrie.

513
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he twisted his ankle, but I wasn't getting in

514
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 4: it anyway. But I was gonna say, you have battles,

515
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 4: for sure, but my favorite battle between you and the guards.

516
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: I used to watch all y'all games, but you and

517
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 4: Westbrook got together. I was like, oh yeah, this this

518
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 4: musty TV. Yeah, because y'all, y'all both tough minded guards.

519
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 4: We're both gonna talk yp pop yall ship you don't

520
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 4: really talk like.

521
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: Somebody say something to you then you will go back.

522
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 4: But him, he don't get he's starting. He started every time.

523
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: I remember one time he did that to me. I

524
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: was like, bro, I don't care. He was like, that's

525
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 4: the problem. That's the problem. Again it was a problem

526
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: on the trip. No, but what's those battles?

527
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: Like I mean it, honestly, that was the most fun,

528
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: like with Russ because it was like my first five

529
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: six years, like he was the bully, like they was

530
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: on TV all the time. And Russ it didn't matter

531
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: if it was like a big matchup, if somebody was hurting,

532
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: he was playing against the backup. He didn't care. He

533
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: tried to do it to everybody. And I just remember

534
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: when when I was like rookie second year, it was

535
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: like he used to try to give me fifty every time,

536
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: Like it was like he would be shooting on me

537
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: so much that like KD would be getting mad, like

538
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: past the ball, like he's shooting every time. And once

539
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: I realized that it was like that. That's when I

540
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: started taking in person. I'm like this, like I know

541
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: he always on go against everybody, but he really trying

542
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: to like come get me.

543
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: And that was like when it became personal. So I.

544
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: Start going back and then I start having the ball

545
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: more once like you know we did our rebuild, I

546
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: start having it more, and you know, he noticed that

547
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: I was having it more, so I was being more

548
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 1: aggressive back at him, and then that's when it had

549
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: turned into like talking. You know, I've been busting your

550
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: ass for years and I'd be like, yeah, well, like

551
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: it's a new time. Like so we started having that conversation.

552
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: It just turned into every game it was automatic, like

553
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: I came to the arena knowing like it's on the night,

554
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: like something happening.

555
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: I thought you had real, like be for real because

556
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: it just seems so tense to know it's just coming

557
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: from him just on bs, just trying to.

558
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: Get on.

559
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: Like that. He had cool to us. Its cool off

560
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: the court, we're cool like, but on the court, it

561
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: was just like he took that approach and like, ain't

562
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: nobody punking me.

563
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't care who you.

564
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: Is turning you up? Though it did for sure yeah,

565
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: you ain't see the playoffs. I mean got back the

566
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: blood because Pat said he was the bully of the NBA.

567
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: So here you go.

568
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 6: Stop continue God, I don't want to rule it.

569
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: Oh you fried man.

570
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: Man.

571
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: I got to ask I always want to ask you this,

572
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: ques Es, what's your favorite game winner between the One

573
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: and Portland? You know what I'm saying, coming off the

574
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: curl knocking it down or the bad shot quote unquote

575
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: the bad shot.

576
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: That's that's my favorite one for sure.

577
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: I know that was a personal comption for you, obviously

578
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: winning the series. But do you know what you did

579
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: to the internet with that shot?

580
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: Bro?

581
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: You fucked everything up that shot. That was probably one

582
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: of the hardest edits, the filest stretch my head. So

583
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: that shot is one of the hardest basketball edits.

584
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: Of all time.

585
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: Bro.

586
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that was a moment for sure. Yeah,

587
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: and you you definitely when it happened. I ain't even

588
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: think about it like that until you know after the game,

589
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: you do media, all the shower, you do all that stuff,

590
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: and then like you finally get to your phone, Like

591
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: I look at my phone right after, but then when

592
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: you go into that whole post game process, it's like

593
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: a little minute in the playoffs for you get to

594
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: your phone and I just remember after that, I was

595
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: in a sprinter, I was on my way back home,

596
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: and I was just sitting there on my phone and

597
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: I was like, it was so much shit that happened

598
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: that I ain't even remember it happening. Like I looked

599
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: up into the camera. I ain't even remember that moment.

600
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: Crazy picture, crazy. It was just that whole ship was

601
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: It was a blur until I saw it. I was like, damn,

602
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: you remember waving though, I remember that. I remember you waved.

603
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was your brother or something.

604
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: My brother right there, yeah he came.

605
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: I said, oh they are.

606
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: But that's how you know when it be personal because

607
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 1: you got a brother. So you know when like just

608
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: like I know, like what type of when I come

609
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: into the game, I'm playing against Russ or whatever, Like

610
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: you see russ brother sitting in the courtside too, Like

611
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: everybody who got a brother, you know, like when you

612
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: go home or when you step away, your brother is

613
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: the one that your like, man, he got you up.

614
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: No ever, you know what I'm saying, Like it's that

615
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: type of conversation. So it's that type of investment. So

616
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: when it happened like that, he was like, shit, he

617
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: made the shot.

618
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: Just what It's like, you knew you was gonna take

619
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: that shot, though, you do it.

620
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: I knew after about like when the clock got like

621
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: I remember, I was about to call for a switch

622
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: to get PG off me. I was calling for another defender.

623
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: But then he was a little bit like back a

624
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: little bit, so I kind of waved them off, like

625
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: and right when I waved them off, I was like,

626
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm shooting.

627
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: This shit right here.

628
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: Damn you know how far you was, Bro, That's what

629
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: I was saying. Bro, you shot that bitch from Yonder Bro.

630
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: What's crazy? Is my trainer Field, the one that's running

631
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: the camp. He came to OKC like after I think

632
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: it was like after game three he came to Okay. See,

633
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: we was in the arena shooting and that whole series,

634
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: we were shooting at night, and I was just shooting

635
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of deep threes, and he was like, you're gonna,

636
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: like you gotta make these, like You're gonna keep making

637
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: these in the whole series. I was just hitting deep

638
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: three after deep three. So when it got to that

639
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: end of the game, like I just remember like CJ

640
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: was like to my right and I could just see

641
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: his arm like telling me like go, like it's time

642
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: to go. But I already knew in my head, like

643
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: he stayed right there, like I'm shooting this ship right here.

644
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: You go there for that.

645
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: And it was a tie game, so I'm like if

646
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: I missed over, yeah, that's crazy. And that shot got

647
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: brought originally again because we watched the Steph in the

648
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Olympics and that shot that he hit and the gold

649
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: medal game was just like that was crazy.

650
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: That's just different.

651
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Ship, Like I just get it like that, And a

652
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: lot of people talk about obviously we know stuff to go,

653
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: like you one of the best shooters of all time

654
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: that don't get enough credit on that because you really

655
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: go crazy, like we were looking at the highlights, but

656
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: you they don't talk about enough.

657
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 4: Bro number two with him and Clay number two because

658
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like you can shoot off

659
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: the dribble better though. I mean, Clay, I ain't gonna

660
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: lie because he us and I got a different view.

661
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: Like.

662
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah I got PTSD from Clay, but the way you

663
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: can shoot off the dribble though, I put that.

664
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: In like you on stuff in a different run with

665
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: that the.

666
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: Hardest shot, they more contested people guarding you harder. You

667
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's it's different, bro. Hell, Yeah,

668
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: they definitely don't. They definitely don't talk about it. They

669
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: act like I don't be doing what I've been doing,

670
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: Like this may be my thirteen season.

671
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: You've been going crazy for a long time.

672
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Still you've been cold. That's what we want crazy because

673
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: it's been a long time. Like I'm just saying, it's

674
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: like my time in the league when you when I

675
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: think about, like how many people have been very good,

676
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: like over that time, and then there's been more people

677
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: very good and more people very good for a couple

678
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: of years, Like it ain't been that many people that

679
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: been here the whole time, Like since I've been in

680
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: the league, that just been doing it like over and

681
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: over and over. But I think people just get bored

682
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: with consistency. And I ain't loud, but like, should I

683
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: been doing it that long and winning? Like it ain't

684
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: like I've been doing it and I'm playing fourteen that

685
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: just never been in the playoffs, Like, yeah, poor season

686
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: before or last Brad average thirty almost thirty three game. Bro. No,

687
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I know, Like, it's hard average dub in the league

688
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: for a decade. Bro, it's crazy. I've been over twenty

689
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: five for damn near eight nine years.

690
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: What another I gotta stop cussing. But another person, you

691
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: know how I get that botherfucking c Yeah ship too,

692
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: But I'm saying that goes to you.

693
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Like, but I always told CJ, like I could think

694
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: of games where CJ come out hot. He got eighteen

695
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. I ain't trying to get my

696
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: twenty two like CJ. I remember one game he was

697
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: playing against Chicago, he had fifty and three quarters. I

698
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: think I just didn't shoot, kept giving it to him,

699
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: like because I'm I want to see everybody do their thing.

700
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, if I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a

701
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: lot of moments.

702
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that when it's somebody else moment,

703
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him have a moment because I won't.

704
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: I want niggas to be happy for me and I

705
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: have mine, So I ain't gonna try to be hogging

706
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: at the moment all the time.

707
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: So it seemed like the media trying to break out

708
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: up for a long time, Bro, trying to separate your

709
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: saying I was too small, Like so that goes to

710
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: show what type of person you are, for shure to

711
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: let him rock out like that for sure.

712
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: Even to see you like how you and brace Simon

713
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: is like nah, Bro, like I'll show you how to

714
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: get to it. And you can see the direct reflection

715
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: of that, Like obviously you could tell Bro in that

716
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: locker room of your presence is felt. Bro, you show

717
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: love and that's like even with you, like you said

718
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: when you got no starting position, all right, I'm straight.

719
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure my backup.

720
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna get his breath.

721
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Too, and that was my goal.

722
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: But like what he does is not normal, like especially

723
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: as a friend showing people love that essentially it's supposed

724
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: to take your spot, and that's not what when I

725
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: was coming in the league, Like people weren't really doing that,

726
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: Like nobody was doing a camp or they invite guys

727
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: to come and work out with them to show.

728
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 2: What you do to help them get better because they

729
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: want your spot.

730
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, Bro, Like to me, I'm looking

731
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: at the game and how like these dudes coming in

732
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: and behaving and I'm looking at a lot of weird behavior,

733
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: like how they handle success, like the shit that they're

734
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: doing and what they're saying and how they act when

735
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: they have some success, and I'm just like that, ain't

736
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: that shit is not gonna last. And then when they

737
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: stopped working and it don't work, and then they down

738
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: bad and they broken up about it, Ain't nobody gonna

739
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: come save you.

740
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna care. So I'm just trying to.

741
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to touch them and reach out and give

742
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: them everything that I know because I know it's gonna

743
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: give them a chance to sustain it. So like all

744
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: of them dudes that's behind me, like I'm gonna give

745
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: them everything because I'm not in competition with them, Like

746
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna win. I already been winning, and

747
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: it ain't because I've been hating on somebody or holding out.

748
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: That's actually why I keep winning because I'm not hating

749
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: and I'm sharing it and putting the next player, young player,

750
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: whatever in position to do what they gonna do because

751
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm what's for me is for me, Like I'm gonna

752
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: be me all the time, and it ain't it ain't

753
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna stop.

754
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: That's rue. Everybody ain't like that, Bro. I remember my

755
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: guy ets just always tell me that about you.

756
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Man.

757
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: He used to be like, dang, no realists, bro. He

758
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: want everybody to win. And that's a fact.

759
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: Like just even seeing that with my own eyes today,

760
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm looking at all the young guys you're working with.

761
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, if I could have had something like

762
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: this when I was a rookie, because they asked me,

763
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: we were sitting up there watching like did you do

764
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: this when he was rookie? I'm I'm like, no, what

765
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: nobody taking me under their wing. It showed me how

766
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: to get better. They thought I was gonna come to

767
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: take their spot.

768
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: But it's I mean, the thing about like the camp, bro,

769
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: is we got like speakers, like mental like stuff that

770
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: is gonna help them with stuff that ain't got nothing

771
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: to do with basketball, because they all gonna have agents,

772
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: especially now, they got agents, they got managers, they got

773
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: family members, You got all these people that's pulling them

774
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: in all these different directions. And then when it don't

775
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: work out, ain't nobody gonna be there? Yeah, it ain't.

776
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: None of them been in position to really give them

777
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: no sound that that's gonna actually help. They just think

778
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: he about to make some money. They think he better

779
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: than everybody when they don't really know what's really going on,

780
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Like they don't really know who in this league, who

781
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: they competition is. How the coaches look at him, they

782
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: just think this is my family member.

783
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: He'd have won.

784
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: So it's like we're trying to share as much as

785
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: we can with him on the court, but off the

786
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: court too, so they don't come in here thinking it

787
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: something it's not. And they been, you know, their whole life,

788
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: they've been working to be an NBA player, and then

789
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: they at the league in one year and don't know

790
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: what to do. Now they just somewhere, you know, doing anything.

791
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I ain't playing basketball no more. So that's really what

792
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: our focus is because a lot of these dudes, you know,

793
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: it's two way players, second round picks, first round picks.

794
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: Some dudes on the you know, they on a cusp,

795
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: like that third year. You know, you get your option

796
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: picked up, you guarantee that third year, but after that

797
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: you might be overseas like it's spooky. Yeah, they don't

798
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: care what pick you was no more. Now they're looking

799
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: at you like he wasn't what we thought he was.

800
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: That's another nineteen year old that like they looking at

801
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: like they used to look at you, so you can

802
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: go yeah, yeah, So it's like we trying to stop

803
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: that from happening. But they it's a lot that they

804
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: got to understand on the court, but also like what

805
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: goes into it off the court too, you know what

806
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like them drills we did today that wasn't

807
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: Euro steps and a bunch of side steps like Brady's

808
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: are conceptual drills you have to be able to do

809
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Like the X is on the court

810
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: more reason bron gonna zip the ball to that X

811
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: right there. If you're not, there's gonna go out of

812
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: bounds coming out. He gonna put his hands in the

813
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: air and look at the coach and you're coming out

814
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: for sure. So it's like this the type of stuff

815
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: they got to know or you can't make it, especially

816
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: for some of the positions that they end like y'all

817
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: not the number one pick.

818
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Of the draft, so nah, it's dope, which I first

819
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: syear being out of Portland.

820
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: How was that transition coming into a new team in

821
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: New City and getting adjusted to play with another great

822
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: player like Jannis.

823
00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: It was.

824
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Like I was excited about it, like going into it,

825
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: just opportunity to like really win.

826
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: Like every year.

827
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: I always thought, like if you're a competitor, you like this,

828
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: Like we can do it this year, you know what

829
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you talking to the team.

830
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: Everybody excited this in New Year.

831
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: But this was the first time where I went into

832
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: it like we can win for real, like and it

833
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: was kind of It was kind of fucked up because

834
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I had a, you know, a bunch of family stuff

835
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: going on, going into like that summer, going through a

836
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: divorce and knowing I'm gonna get traded, but not knowing

837
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna get traded to, so I couldn't get hurt,

838
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: got to be able to pass a physical, so I

839
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get up and down at all. Like

840
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: I didn't play pick up or nothing the whole summer, damn.

841
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: And my first day getting up and down was the

842
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: first day of training camp and I did. I got

843
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: traded like two three days before camp. So I got

844
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee, I did my physicals, move my stuff into

845
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: the apartment I was in for a little bit.

846
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: The next day I went to go shoot.

847
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: The next day was media day, and the next day

848
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: was practice, and I remember like going up and down

849
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: in practice and we got to stop. Gianni's got the

850
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: rebound and I'm like running up the sideline and he

851
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: threw it ahead to me and I jumped up and

852
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: caught the ball and I landed like if this dot

853
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: of bounds line, I was this far out of bounds,

854
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I caught the ball way out of bounds. I'm like, oh,

855
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm off, Like I ain't on point, Like I ain't

856
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: ever did that shit before. I'm like completely out of bounds.

857
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: So we keep playing and just because I'm a score,

858
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: like I hit a couple of threes, like I got

859
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: to the rim a few times, but I could just

860
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: feel like my body didn't feel good. I'm like, I'm thinking,

861
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: like I just had to pick my life up in

862
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: two days and just go and like plays. You know

863
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, ain't nothing, Ain't nothing really settled.

864
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: So like I pretty much spent the whole year trying

865
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: to like just get my mind to like be there

866
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: and to lock in and be sharp because I knew

867
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: what type of opportunity I had, you know what I'm saying.

868
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: But it was a it was a harder transition than

869
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: I thought for real.

870
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: Like just.

871
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: Like I said, because of my life, but then also

872
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: like adjusting to playing with another great player, and then

873
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: also playing with Chris, Like Chris is a is a

874
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: great player too, but he plays a certain way too.

875
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: So I'm having to get used to playing with two

876
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: players and I don't want to stop them from doing

877
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: what they do. But I got to find how to

878
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: be the best version of me within this too. So

879
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of it was a lot

880
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: of moving parts. It was.

881
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: It was more difficult than I thought.

882
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: It would be damned to get that ship together. Yeah,

883
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: trust at the Pacers. Yeah he thinks they got smoked

884
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: for y'all. Bro We did last year last year. Last

885
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: year they like fo.

886
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: Last year.

887
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hurt last year. It just was, you

888
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: know they I think the first time we played them,

889
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I played. I think if we played

890
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: them in Indy, I don't think I played in that game.

891
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: And I think the next time we played them was

892
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: in the N season tournament and then they beat us

893
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: in that game, and and that was when Halliburton was like,

894
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, my time whatever. So like when I seen that,

895
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: I respected it. That's why I said after the game,

896
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: I respect it. Like that's like if you know, like

897
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: how Rush used to do this and sometimes people used

898
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 1: to do it back. He had to take it because

899
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't did it to so many people. So I

900
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: respected it. But like at the same time, you like,

901
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna address that. I respect it, but we're gonna

902
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to that at yes.

903
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: Yes.

904
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: So then like the next time we played them, I think, uh,

905
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: we beat them in Milwaukee, and then.

906
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: I think, you know, they beat us.

907
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: I think four times we beat them that one time,

908
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: but at the time that we beat them was when

909
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: the situation with the ball and they had like fifty

910
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: yea Joannis had sixty six.

911
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: Sixty four or something like that.

912
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, so like he got that look back, yeah,

913
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: but he was just just done in every play, like

914
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: they he there's nothing they could do that night. So

915
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: that happened, and then you know, the season went by,

916
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: so like we lose the last game of the season

917
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the schedule, I'm like, we about

918
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: to play Indiana in the playoffs, and that was when

919
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: I was.

920
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: Looking at it. I was like, I ain't it been

921
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: like a little back and forth. Year been a lot.

922
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to figure this out, figure that out.

923
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: But I was like, now we're about to be about

924
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: to see in this like in this playoff. So I mean,

925
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of fucked up. We was banged up

926
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: a little bit.

927
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 3: I was hurt, bro I was hurt.

928
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: No, but I felt like we still was gonna win. Respect,

929
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: I felt like we still don't win. But I mean,

930
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Chris Milson believes that Banking three is going to overtime

931
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: and ship he damn sure believe.

932
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

933
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: He I mean, I still felt like we was gonna win.

934
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: But I mean they sometimes teams have a run and

935
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: they had to run. They end up getting to the

936
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: conference finals and they beat us in six games. I mean,

937
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: I still felt like we we had Actionally what I'm saying,

938
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: I strained my achilles again and uh in game three too,

939
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: So get well son, y'all was hurt to be fair

940
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: as he was hurt.

941
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: But you get out there, you get beat, you get beat.

942
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

943
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: Respect heye, dass niggas.

944
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: This energy low like he marking that pace.

945
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: We had a grazy season. I seen, y'all because I'll

946
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: be watching. So I've seen the episode. Y'all was like,

947
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: you know the Pacers whatever. I'm like, no, I remember you,

948
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: was like I remember over there? Whatever, I want to

949
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: chicken Milwaukee Deer. We got a boss and half to

950
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: sat down. You gotta shouts about dogs.

951
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: Now, how you'll have a hell of a year this year?

952
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Though, for sure it's gonna be crazy this year. You

953
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: just gotta be healthy. What's gonna come down?

954
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: What's like playing with Nis? I had a chance to

955
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: play with nice as a point guard. I ain't gonna lie.

956
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it a bean, It's me. I love Jannie.

957
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: He's a good dude, super cool, but at a point guard. Now, hey,

958
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'm gonna keep it real, bro, I'm cool.

959
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: I'm cold cold, I'm coolish.

960
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: Corner my boy.

961
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: No, this is the I mean.

962
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: The thing about playing with Janni's is like when you're

963
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: being great and you've won playing a certain way, for sure,

964
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: you you gotta respect that.

965
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: That's that's how you play, That's that's how you know.

966
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: And then you put me into it.

967
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm used to having the ball too, but I came

968
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: into the situation like, you know, like I gotta be

969
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: a great compliment to Jannis. So I knew it wasn't

970
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna be what it was in Portland, but I just

971
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: think it was a It was just an adjustment for him.

972
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's different when you

973
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: got some different type of help. You know what I'm saying,

974
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Like it don't take as much, you don't have to

975
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: give as much. You know what I'm saying, Like we

976
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: can do it a little different. And I think it

977
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: the best part about it is like we have a

978
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: conversation about it. Yeah, it ain't like he was just

979
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: like I'm not changing. He was just like dagn sometimes

980
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: like you gotta just tell me, like pass the fucking ball.

981
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: You gotta tell me because like all I all I

982
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: know is go like I'm gonna go like but don't

983
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: like he'll tell you, like tell me. And he that's

984
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: all I had to say. And he mean it though,

985
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: like he I give him credit because he because he

986
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: mean it. I'm saying, like that's really how he how

987
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: he think. Like when I got there, I'm watching him

988
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: work out. He working out against four people and they

989
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: all failing, like and he's like, no, like you gotta

990
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: find me harder than that, you know, Like damn, So

991
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: that's how he that's how he That's just how his

992
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: mind is.

993
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: The One thing I do love about you is though

994
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: he do listen, Like he'll listen to anything you say,

995
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: like he'll take it in. I don't know if he

996
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: was listening to me, but he was. He was considering it.

997
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, look, i'm fast too. If you

998
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: get it to me on the break, I can get

999
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: to the ring. He looked, Okay, all right, get out

1000
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: the way.

1001
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Brother. Yeah, it's just an adjustment, bro. I think that

1002
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing. And like as the season went on,

1003
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: we talked about it more and more. The more that

1004
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: we got to know each other, it was like I

1005
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: felt more and more comfortable telling him like, if my

1006
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: man is sitting right there in that gap and you

1007
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: can't get in there, just swing it to me. After

1008
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: I hit a couple, like, he gonna get a little

1009
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: closer to me and you're gonna have more space. Like

1010
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: we started to have more and more conversations like that.

1011
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: But I also would tell him like, it's also gonna

1012
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: let me know like when the ball is coming, because

1013
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: he get in the paint so easy. You know, he'll

1014
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: get into the paint and sometimes he had just dunk

1015
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: on two people. Yeah, and then sometimes you know a

1016
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: third person to come and you know, just jump before

1017
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: he jump, and then he'll throw it and I'm thinking

1018
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: he about to shoot.

1019
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: So it was just like as the season went on, we.

1020
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: Talked more and more and like we definitely had our

1021
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: stretches where it was like that was it right there.

1022
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Like I remember we went to La we played the

1023
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Lakers and I had like thirty five and eleven and

1024
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: he had thirty five and twelve and eight. And then

1025
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: we played the Clippers and I had like thirty four

1026
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: and ten and six and he had thirty seven, twelve

1027
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: and nine. And it was like those back to back games.

1028
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: I remember like walking through the tunnel and we were

1029
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: just looking at each other like this, how we got

1030
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: to this, How we gotta do it? Like it ain't

1031
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: gonna always look like this numbers wise, but like when

1032
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: we on point on point, it could look like this,

1033
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: but we got to use each other. And then both

1034
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: of those games down the stretch, we played two man games.

1035
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm coming off, hit him in the pocket. He don't

1036
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: have nothing. He come back to me, I'm shooting threes

1037
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: off the handoff. I come off the handoff, get to

1038
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: the paint. His man come to me, I'm dumping it

1039
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: off dunk. It was just like we was just we

1040
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: was clicking, you know what I'm saying. But I think

1041
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: when you have an injuries, you know, I miss a

1042
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: game here, then he missed a game, and then Chris

1043
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: missed a stretch of games like we was never able

1044
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: to just fully like click all at the same time.

1045
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: You know. Then I think they both missed a stretch

1046
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: of games. And we playing the Clippers and then Bobby

1047
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Half twenty eight and fifteen, I have forty. We beat

1048
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: the Clippers with everybody, and then we beat Phoenix with everybody.

1049
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Like we just it was just a little It was

1050
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: a funky year, bro.

1051
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I had y'all win the chip.

1052
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: We talked about it about, you know, but all them things,

1053
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: combined injuries and.

1054
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: All that stuff.

1055
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: You gotta be healthy, Brod, y'all want the chip. But

1056
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: I got y'all went hold on, let me, it's gonna

1057
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 4: be be real, do I got. He's just crazy this

1058
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 4: year to JT, he mad right now. He ain't getting

1059
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: no tick.

1060
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: It might be.

1061
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an interesting year. Bro, it's gonna be tough,

1062
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: but it's I think.

1063
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, from being in the league a

1064
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: long time, bre it's a lot of ship that happened

1065
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: over the course of the NBA season a lot, but

1066
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: it's a lot deer man.

1067
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't want the de deer man. They don't no board,

1068
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: but I still rock with I say, I ain't see

1069
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: you in the building at all this year?

1070
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: Might people back there would be no fives on the walker.

1071
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: We gotta you know, president back, I'm going into the

1072
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: game this year. You play open to night. I think

1073
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: we at Philly.

1074
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's tough.

1075
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: That trip.

1076
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: I didn't want to look to that.

1077
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: I think we have feeling.

1078
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: I want to hop into the rap ship though, Bro,

1079
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: when did you pick up the pen? When did you start?

1080
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: Like did you start our freestyling with the guys on

1081
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: AU trips and then it turned in That's.

1082
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: How it started real. Yeah. So like.

1083
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: My AU coaching, we was in like sick great like

1084
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: we used to you know, we would do the local tournaments.

1085
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: We would go to Sacramento, we might go to Vegas,

1086
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: we would go to LA But we used to all,

1087
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: we used to have four people to a room, like

1088
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: for our tournament, so it was like two beds. We

1089
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: literally was back to back in the bed, back to

1090
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: back in this bed. Four of us in one room.

1091
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: Damn.

1092
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: But at some point he would have us all in

1093
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: one room and we all just kind of be circled

1094
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: up in there, and he had talked to us like, hey,

1095
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna talk to y'all like men. Like

1096
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: you could tell he was trying to mold us to

1097
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: be like certain time he would tell us like you

1098
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, y'all from Oakland, Like we ain't scared,

1099
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: we don't care.

1100
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: You know what their name is, who they are, what

1101
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: type of gear they got. They was trying to mold

1102
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: us like that, you know.

1103
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: And they started doing this thing where like he'd start rapping,

1104
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: and then we pretty much had to pass it around

1105
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: and everybody and everybody had to rap, Like we had

1106
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: a couple of white dudes on our team, like they

1107
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: had to rap.

1108
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1109
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: I made him get in the booth and we sitting

1110
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: in a circle like this, Dann. We just passed it

1111
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: around and everybody had to rap. And I just remember,

1112
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: like when I rap sometimes like they'd be like like

1113
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: that was hard, you know, like and I felt like

1114
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: every time I spit, I had to keep coming with

1115
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: something clever like I. And then like all my cousins

1116
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: I grew up around, was doing music. They was all rapping.

1117
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: And then Ship. By the time we got to high school,

1118
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: you know you come out warm ups, we was coming

1119
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: out to our own music. Go record that's far, let

1120
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: them play the music we're doing, layup lines was playing

1121
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: our own music. College, we started doing mixtapes and then

1122
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: Ship that was was.

1123
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: You a West Coast rapper? First was you? Forty said.

1124
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: Wow, we now who was I?

1125
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: Being from the West Coast?

1126
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: I like West Coast music, but my style of music

1127
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: was always more like East Coast gotcha because I like bars.

1128
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: I like people that could like rap for real, and

1129
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: that was never the style on the West Coast like that.

1130
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: It was more bounce, you know, like dance Steve, you know,

1131
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: it was more like that.

1132
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: But I always preferred my style because I'm I like,

1133
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, lyricism and writing and bars and doubling tundras

1134
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I wrote like I'd write

1135
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: music like the kind of music that I listened to

1136
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: and then I try to find like that balance of

1137
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: like what's player and what sound good boring and preachy,

1138
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: and that's kind of like the laye that I do

1139
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: my music in.

1140
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: When Did You Know You? Was nice though, like all right,

1141
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: I can really do this. I can start putting the

1142
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 3: LP out the album up. I start in Wayne Jada

1143
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 3: for a feature like I did.

1144
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: I think it was like probably like twenty fifteen, I

1145
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: start putting stuff out on SoundCloud and no, it was

1146
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: before that.

1147
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: I did what was that?

1148
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: What was that All Star twenty fifteen? Yeah it was

1149
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: it was twenty fifteen All Star in New York. I

1150
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: was at that one. Yeah, so All Star twenty fifteen

1151
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: in New York. I did Sway in the Morning because

1152
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: Sway from Oakland. So he was like, you know, you

1153
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: do your media stuff out there. He was like, come

1154
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah. So when I walked in, he

1155
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: was like, man, like, I don't want to put you

1156
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: on the spot, but I know you'd be rapping, Like

1157
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: do you want to spit something? I was like yeah,

1158
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: So like I rapped on Sway like during All Star

1159
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: and like the video like that's my most viewed rap

1160
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: video on the internet.

1161
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: Like so like after that, that's when everybody was.

1162
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 1: Like, you gotta start putting music out, like this shit fired,

1163
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: like it went viral, remember that shit. And then after that,

1164
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: I start putting it out on SoundCloud and I was

1165
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of SoundCloud stuff and then people was like,

1166
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: you got to drop an album. And I remember, like

1167
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: my twenty sixth birthday, that was probably the following year.

1168
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: For my birthday, I did my first show, but I

1169
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: performed all SoundCloud songs.

1170
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 2: Where are you performing at in Portland?

1171
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: I sold it out. I sold it out a show

1172
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: in Portland on my birthday. After I did that, and

1173
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: then I start working on the album after that, and

1174
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: like all my partners, Adidas at JBL at the time,

1175
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: like they started wanting to use my music for like

1176
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: all my stuff.

1177
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: So that's really how it started.

1178
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: That's hard, bro.

1179
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: I needed to own my music.

1180
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: I needed to own like my publishing and the masters

1181
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: and all that to be able to use it for

1182
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: like commercials and all of that stuff so that I

1183
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: can make money from it.

1184
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: And then from there it just took off.

1185
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard you say you had one of uh

1186
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: somebody working with you, your agent or something like you

1187
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: hadn't really tap into the music.

1188
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: He actually worked for my agency.

1189
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: He's like one of my agents, but like they he

1190
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: always get on me because my very first game in

1191
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: my career, like a regular season was against the Lakers two.

1192
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: So he played them on Halloween and we actually beat them,

1193
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: and I had twenty three and eleven, and I remember

1194
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: walking out the locker room the night before, me and

1195
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: my cousins.

1196
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: Was just upstairs like freestyle and writing bars.

1197
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: And I came out the locker room and they was like, man,

1198
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: that was a great game, Like you just played against Kobe.

1199
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: You just had twenty three and eleven, only Alan iverson.

1200
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: So they telling me all these stats and shit like,

1201
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 1: and I remember I was just I let him finish,

1202
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, bro, I really can rap.

1203
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: But I was thinking about what I was writing in

1204
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: my notes. I'm like, bro, I really can rap.

1205
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: And they all looked like, man, not another fucking basketball player,

1206
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: thinking like they can rap because they hadn't heard me rap.

1207
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: So then he started I started sending them stuff this phone,

1208
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: like after I record, I send it. So he really

1209
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: was like just you know, an agent working for my

1210
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: agency doing basketball stuff.

1211
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: And now he basically is like you know everything about me,

1212
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: he and my A and R.

1213
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: But he do all the business side of everything with

1214
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: my music as far because he didn't learn, Like he

1215
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: didn't learned everything.

1216
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: That's right, bro.

1217
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the four ball Friday's going crazy. Yeah,

1218
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: I started four bar Friday. So what's that energy like?

1219
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: Having a sold out crowd listen to you? You know,

1220
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: rap like you get it in the NBA. You can

1221
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: playing in front of thousands of people. Then you go

1222
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: you up on stage's you know, it's different. It's definitely different.

1223
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: Like my first couple of times, I'm like, man, I

1224
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: wonder if they even go like funck with the music

1225
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: like that. And like when I got up there and

1226
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: I did the first show for my birthday, I was

1227
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: doing this freestyle and I think I posted a clip

1228
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: of it at the time on my Instagram. But I

1229
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: was rapping and I was like rapp Like one of

1230
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: my bars, I was like, last time they count me

1231
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: out what I do?

1232
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 2: Game six?

1233
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: I said, last time they count me out what I do?

1234
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: Game six? Talking about when I had the three on

1235
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: the rockets and I said it in at the show,

1236
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: I said, last time they count me out?

1237
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: What I do?

1238
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: And the whole crowd said Game six and it was

1239
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: and it was a clip of it, and I was like, oh,

1240
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: they fun with my ship. I'm really nice after that

1241
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: after that and I was like, all right, bro, you're

1242
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: about to crash out and crash you put the jump

1243
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: off stage crashing out.

1244
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 3: Who been your favorite collabse so far as a two

1245
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: parter and then like, who you look forward to work

1246
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: in the future with?

1247
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: Uh, my favorite so far? That's crazy.

1248
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: I gotta say Wayne, because like the first time I

1249
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: got with Wayne, it was actually somebody reached out to

1250
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: me for Wayne because they was like, you know, he

1251
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: wanted to do something with you because he you know,

1252
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: he liked how you don't try to rap like a rapper.

1253
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: He can tell you just rapping like you. So we

1254
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: connected like that and ship.

1255
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: Me and Wayne got so many songs together that ain't

1256
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: ain't even released, like because everything I send him, he

1257
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: do it and just send it right back, like he

1258
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: just he do that shit fast. So it's a bunch

1259
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: of shit that we haven't that I haven't even put out.

1260
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: But I'll say that one because I actually been to

1261
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: the studio with him and like being able to see it,

1262
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: I was like, damn.

1263
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Like, you know how crazy that is? Bromber.

1264
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: I grew up on little Wayne Bro like.

1265
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: Like Wayne Bro.

1266
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: No, it was crazy because when I he was like,

1267
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: I was in l A. He was like, yeah, pull up,

1268
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: come to the studio.

1269
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1270
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: And I remember I was like all right, and then

1271
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: I was on my way there and I was thinking

1272
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: like damn, like I'm finna pull up on Wayne at

1273
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: the studio. I'm thinking he's finna have fifty people there.

1274
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a whole situation.

1275
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: I got there. It was him and the engineer. That

1276
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 2: was it. That's crazy, man.

1277
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: And he probably wrapped through thirty five different beats, just

1278
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: like play the beat. He's standing up at the MC.

1279
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: He had rap rap, rap, they bring it back here,

1280
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: rap over some more. He wasn't writing it or nothing.

1281
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: He just was kind of like rapping over each track,

1282
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: just kind of punching in. And then he played some

1283
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: ship for me that you know, hadn't been released. I

1284
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: was like, Bro, this dude really is like how you

1285
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: even think about half of this ship? You're saying like

1286
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was a crazy experience. Bro, still

1287
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: be doing that to this day. It's still crazy. Like

1288
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: he coming crazier, like right now, like he keep going

1289
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: in his bag right now?

1290
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: What's the girl?

1291
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: The who for l s U? She gave her?

1292
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: He gave her a real verse, fire verse, crazy and

1293
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: like as an athlete too, like people will give you

1294
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: a throwaway too, they'll just do something to be like here,

1295
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like what they won't do it.

1296
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: So he gave her a real verse. And he always

1297
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: gave me a real verse, and he never gave me

1298
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: no little bullshit.

1299
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's somebody look forward to though? Or you want

1300
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: to that you ain't collab with your man? You got

1301
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: something Cold?

1302
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: Man, I've been on Cold a long time. I've been

1303
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: on his ass for I've been on about.

1304
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: Hit him, serve.

1305
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: I been on his ass.

1306
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: That's how I want to interview, Like, Bro, we got

1307
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: the dam, Bro, we got your dame.

1308
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: That's why I hit me, Like Bro, I'm trying to

1309
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: work it out. I feel bad.

1310
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: Bro supposed to this ship months ago. I appreciate it,

1311
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: but I've been trying to get one with Cold for

1312
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: a minute. But I actually know him, like like he

1313
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: hit me, Uh, he randomly hit me one time, and

1314
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, Okay, I see his name problem, like, oh,

1315
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: he finally finished.

1316
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: He probably said something through.

1317
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: I opened the message up and he hit me about

1318
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: like our roster to see, like if we got a

1319
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: roster spot about somebody he know trying to get back

1320
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: in the league playing GM. He was playing GM on me.

1321
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, bro, I thought the track

1322
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: was coming through. I'm finish, send it right back. But yeah,

1323
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: I say, Cold, that's my that's my boy man. But

1324
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: Ship Drake, it's I mean, it's it's a crazy few

1325
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: names to say, but I say Cole, Drake and Kendrick,

1326
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: the three, them three.

1327
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: I gotta get at some point.

1328
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: When you just said I forgot that Cold really wouldn't

1329
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: hoop to Africa.

1330
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: That's what I thought he was about the highlights. He

1331
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: really he really loves hoops.

1332
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: So like what I do send him sometimes is like

1333
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: when I see other rappers that's actually nice and hoop.

1334
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: I always send him a clip up like hey, he

1335
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: might he might be able to get you. I know

1336
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: you'd be tight.

1337
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: He probably hot.

1338
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: Who you think better him with Chris Brown? Chris Brown.

1339
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: I think Chris Brown like he's just he an athletic,

1340
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: like he an acrobatic he just he can hoop for real.

1341
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: Like when I see his clips, he looked like a

1342
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: young player, you know what I'm saying, Damn co I

1343
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

1344
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking there's probably more athletic, more athletic, but like

1345
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: really love hoop though, so that I can get the

1346
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: best rap hooper is Davey's going to hooper crazy, David's hoop.

1347
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: He's the best.

1348
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: A dude name it's this dude. It's a rapper. He

1349
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: ain't like super Big. His named Dax though. He nice

1350
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: and hoop.

1351
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: We got somebody from at the end of that rap

1352
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: for real, that's nice.

1353
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: David's just like that though, like Dax, I'm telling you.

1354
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: Look him up on Instagram looking nice. Look up de

1355
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: Bo from Indianapolis.

1356
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really d one.

1357
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: He was you. He really, he really liked that, you know. Yeah, crazy,

1358
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: he gaged the rapper. That's nice and hoop that I'm.

1359
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: Rapper.

1360
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 5: Gilly Gilly can HOOPI he'd be hooping Gillia Big three,

1361
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 5: m v P bro NL chopper hoop too.

1362
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell he played a you for the show.

1363
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah he can hoop, bro.

1364
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: That's a few who it's somebody I can't think of

1365
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: right now.

1366
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: They're rap nobody we grew up on.

1367
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 2: He said, na.

1368
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: I tell you at the All Star Game too. Bro,

1369
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: you got bors, but you one of my favorite you.

1370
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: You got bors.

1371
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 3: Cam cam cam cahoop. You know we ain't doing this

1372
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: on the show, boy Kelly, why why musicians? I can

1373
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: play basketball, you know.

1374
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 6: I.

1375
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Just team uniform.

1376
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm not come on, good dame out of here. But

1377
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 3: it got this campush to get me all rapp up

1378
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: before we got out.

1379
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 4: We can't let you go, bro, you top seventy five. Man,

1380
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: you had that moment to be there at that ceremony.

1381
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: Man, what's that like?

1382
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: Bro? Honestly it was. It was crazy, bro, because I

1383
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: didn't when they first announced it. I started seeing like

1384
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: lists of like this is my top seventy five, this

1385
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: is my top seventy five. So I thought it was

1386
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: just like a trend that you know, people were saying

1387
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: who they thought they top seventy five players were. And

1388
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: I remember driving to the gym one day and somebody

1389
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: called me like you made it. I'm like, like what

1390
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: you talking about? And they sent me a picture of it.

1391
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, they had the little thing around your head

1392
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: and it was like you made it. I'm like, so

1393
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: they actually put like a committee together to like pick

1394
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: seventy five players. And once I found out I made it,

1395
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, shit, who didn't make it? So I

1396
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: look and see some of the people that didn't make it,

1397
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it. Like it was the first time

1398
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: that I was like they really looked at people's like

1399
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: body of work, like the availability them winning, like what

1400
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: they've been able to do consistently. Like this ain't like

1401
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: no All Star voting, it ain't popular contest, it ain't

1402
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: none of that.

1403
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: It's like, what have you done?

1404
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: So, like that's why that's why it meant so much

1405
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: for me, because it was like I could think of

1406
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: bigger names and you know, people that you if they

1407
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: had to say seventy five players that they might just

1408
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: off the top of the head put them in front

1409
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: of me. But when you look at the body of work,

1410
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot of players in the league that like

1411
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: it's probably like James kd Russ, Steph Bron Damar, but

1412
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: after that, Chris Paul, after that. It ain't nobody that

1413
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: got more career points than me.

1414
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: That's a fact.

1415
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 1: And like they all been in the league for three

1416
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: or more years longer than me, and I ain't far behind.

1417
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: So it's like, like I said earlier, that been like

1418
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: with me being in the playoffs on a vet team

1419
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: and on the rebuilding team. We didn't we started rebuilding.

1420
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: We was right back in there, like right back in

1421
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs eight straight years. So it's like that was

1422
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: the first time I was like the like they made

1423
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: the right decision. Like people ain't gonna see it right now,

1424
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: but when they look back at like what actually took place,

1425
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like he should be in there. And

1426
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: then you know, we got to uh to Cleveland for

1427
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: the like seventy fifth anniversary event and just being in

1428
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: the room and seeing you know, Kareem and Magic and

1429
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: like seeing all of these dudes, that was the first

1430
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: time I was like like should I even be in this?

1431
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: Like this crazy to be in here and I'm like

1432
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: one of them, and being in the picture and taking

1433
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: a picture with you know, the other Oakland Point Guards.

1434
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: It was you know, gp J kid like being up

1435
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: there with them. It was like I'm amongst this group.

1436
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: But I'll say that like the craziest part and I

1437
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: told this story I think on the on Q Rich

1438
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: and uh In d Miles shots and knuckleheads on knuckleheads, like.

1439
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: Everybody was there.

1440
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: But when when Jordan walked up, that's when I was like,

1441
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: this man is like not even a real is he

1442
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: even a real person? Like it was probably eighty cameras

1443
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: surrounding like the other seventy four players when he walked up,

1444
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: it was probably his own set of sixty cameras. And

1445
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: he walked up and it was like you can see

1446
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: right away he ain't like we part of the top

1447
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: seventy five, Like he's the one, like he a part

1448
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: of his own group. And that like that was when

1449
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: it was the most obvious to me, Like seeing him

1450
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: walk up. Even when you was in a building, when

1451
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: they called his name out, it was like, nigga, we

1452
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: could all leave now, like let him go up there

1453
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: by hisself. That's how loud it was. It was like

1454
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: that shit wasn't real. It's crazy, bro.

1455
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: Top seventy five, Bro, that's crazy.

1456
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 4: That's like you know, coming from no name AAU team,

1457
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 4: we restate to get the top seventy five, Bro, I

1458
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 4: don't probably could you dreamed that?

1459
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: Nah?

1460
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: I said it yesterday when I was talking to the

1461
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: campers when I was just telling him, like I was

1462
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: stressing to them, like all of the people that's working camp,

1463
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: that's not like a NBA coach, Like even the counselors,

1464
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: the you know, a lot of the staff is like

1465
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: they coached me. I played with him, they played in college.

1466
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: Now they coaching college or they coach in the NBA,

1467
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: like they got credentials. But they also witnessed my story

1468
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: and everything that I went through, so they they know

1469
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: that none of the stuff that we're doing, it ain't

1470
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: just no, oh I'm a start. Now let's make sure

1471
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: let's you know, act like he know everything. He ain't

1472
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: have no you know, he ain't do nothing wrong. This

1473
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: shit was seamless, Like they've been there for the whole thing.

1474
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: So they witnessed it and they can share the same

1475
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: message that I'm sharing and they've experienced it through me.

1476
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: But they also know, like the formula or formula zero

1477
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: is not me saying this is what you gotta do.

1478
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm a product of the formula that all of these

1479
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: people make up and I'm sharing that with them. And

1480
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: I was like the reason why it is important for

1481
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: y'all to like be invested in this and to embrace

1482
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: everything that's happening here is because I don't need nothing

1483
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: from y'all. But because of all of this stuff and

1484
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: like my ability, I've been able to accomplish way more

1485
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: than I ever would have thought. Like I would have

1486
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: never have been like I'm about to be top seventy five.

1487
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: Even when they was talking about top seventy five, I

1488
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking, oh, I'm in there for sure, you know

1489
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like I never could have I

1490
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: never could have dreamed of it going like this, you

1491
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was just when I came

1492
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: in the league, I was like, man, I might spend

1493
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: some time in the G League. Literally, I was literally

1494
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: thinking that I might spend some time in the G League. Shit,

1495
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: I might. I might go to Miami and be playing

1496
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: with Brian and d Wade, be just a shooting point

1497
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: guard like shit, I don't know.

1498
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: But I could have never dreamed of everything that's happened happening.

1499
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: And that's why, especially with you be at top seventy

1500
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: five and deserving of that for sure. She said, you

1501
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: get overlooked a lot, and the time change, like you said,

1502
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: it's always voted Fatigua garoo for people. But like you

1503
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: can talk about all the newer guys, there's a lot

1504
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: of younger point guardsen league. But still you still hold

1505
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: your ground, you still do your thing. You're still set

1506
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: the center with that before we get out of here,

1507
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: it ain't gotta be a no order. Just know what

1508
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Who's some of your top five players? They

1509
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: ain't even gotta be the best, or who's some of

1510
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: your favorite players right now?

1511
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: Just period?

1512
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: I say right now, because if we say period, it's

1513
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people I can't leave off the list

1514
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: right No nigga get the waller.

1515
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: So right now, I'm gonna go, uh Anthony Edwards.

1516
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: I think everybody super high on him right now, but

1517
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: I like him because of his energy, Like his swag

1518
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: about him is authentic and he got the game to

1519
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: go with it. So I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards. I'm

1520
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna go uh Ja Morant shout out the joy. You know,

1521
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: he got in some trouble, so I think people kind

1522
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 1: of turned off to him a little bit, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I know what I'm looking at. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go Anthony Edwards. Jama Rant Luca

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Speaker 1: leave me somebody, yeah, joker m hmm, And be honest,

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Speaker 1: that's my five right now that I'm like, when I'm

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Speaker 1: watching and they like my favorites, I'm gonna go so.

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Speaker 3: Far that backcourt trenchy.

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Speaker 1: Babies, that's somebody that comes out. Hell, your two picks

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Speaker 1: was a lot of Oakland, Like I say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm going with like obviously younger players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what you know. That's the group I

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Speaker 1: go with.

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Speaker 4: But they all like real though, Like when you watch him,

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Speaker 4: you can tell, like I hang out with him, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like John Morant, he come on

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Speaker 4: thirty eight. Yeah, he clow with me.

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Speaker 3: Anthony. That was definitely one of us, for sure.

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Speaker 1: It was funny even see the joker. He was like

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Speaker 1: when Olympics, he was all right asking, I'm by killing

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Speaker 1: my niggas, drinking beer, watching horses for shure. I know

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Speaker 1: Lucas smoking the squares when we're.

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Speaker 2: Squares.

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Speaker 1: He's not the new Ports getting fit.

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Speaker 2: Took me square.

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Speaker 3: That was a beer. Y'all want to take a beer.

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Speaker 2: Now?

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