WEBVTT - The 2000 Baltimore Ravens: Best Defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Special Teams, a production of My Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Greetings and Welcome inside Special Teams with Jason Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Harmon, our podcast that takes a look every week

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<v Speaker 1>back at a specific team, a specific year in sports history,

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<v Speaker 1>and the imprint they leave on the world of sports.

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<v Speaker 1>We go through football, baseball, basketball. We had a big

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas one not too long ago that we went through

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<v Speaker 1>Hollia sorry holiday holiday, holiday holiday one. And today we

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<v Speaker 1>stick in the National Football League by looking back at

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<v Speaker 1>the year that was the two thousand Baltimore Ravens, a

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<v Speaker 1>season that started with a cloud of uncertainty and controversy

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<v Speaker 1>and ended with a debate. Maybe this might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best defense that we have ever seen in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's very difficult for you. I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, any buddy, buddy, I know, I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a list of people that will agree with me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>your members and your brothers and people who lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago don't count. I have a petition. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I made sure before we talked about the Ravens that

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<v Speaker 1>I got a petition. I loaded up. I got Isabel

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<v Speaker 1>from down the street. She's very unhappy about this. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of people who live right outside Wrigley

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<v Speaker 1>Field upset about this. Now they're Cup fans, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have them, oh well, but but I actually know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a great bar community there, so I can really get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of signatures as there. We're hitting the final

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<v Speaker 1>call at two in the morning, all right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to make sure that you all rally around

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. I mean, you know, it's the South side

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<v Speaker 1>for the White Sox. Oh no, everybody rallies around the Bears. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>very good. Okay, So with that in mind, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the debate coming up later on by podcast. But

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<v Speaker 1>the year for the two thousand Baltimore Ravens began under

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<v Speaker 1>a cloud of incredible controversy as Ray Lewis, star linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in a murder charge January thirty one of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, following of the Super Bowl thirty four party

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. This is when the Rams beat the Tennessee Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>A fight broke out between Louis and his companions another

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<v Speaker 1>group of people that resulted in the stabbing deaths of

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<v Speaker 1>two people just since Baker and Richard Lawler. Lewis and

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<v Speaker 1>his two companions Reginald Oakley Joseph Sweeting were questioned by

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta police, and eleven days later they were indicted on

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<v Speaker 1>murder and aggravated assault charges. This fight occurred in the

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<v Speaker 1>Buckhead Village neighborhood, which is the big downtown area in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta that has seen a lot of activity. The white

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<v Speaker 1>suit that ray Lewis was wearing the night of the

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<v Speaker 1>killings has never been found. The d A said the

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<v Speaker 1>blood stained suit was probably dumped in a garbage bin

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<v Speaker 1>outside of fast food restaurant. There was a knife found

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<v Speaker 1>at the scene, no fingerprints or DNA on it. Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>subsequently testified that Oakley and Sweeting had bought knives earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl week when Lewis was signing autographs,

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<v Speaker 1>and the blood of one of the victims was found

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<v Speaker 1>inside of ray Lewis's limousine. Two weeks into the trial,

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<v Speaker 1>ray Lewis reached a plea agreement in which the murder

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<v Speaker 1>charge was dismissed in exchange for his testimony against Oakley

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<v Speaker 1>and Sweeting. He wound up getting a year's probation, also

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<v Speaker 1>fine two fifty thousand dollars by the NFL, which was

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<v Speaker 1>then probably the highest fine levied against someone for something

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't involving drugs or or something else like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So now ray Lewis is okay to play football. Oakley

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<v Speaker 1>and Sweeting were acquitted of the charges in June. No

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<v Speaker 1>other suspects were ever arrested for the incident. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something that is very high profile that everybody knows about

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<v Speaker 1>this ray Lewis story. What I can't believe is that

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<v Speaker 1>this happened and ray Lewis was allowed to play in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL this season. He was involved in a murder charge,

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<v Speaker 1>he negotiated a plea agreement. All of this evidence was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and this is back when Paul Tagley was

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<v Speaker 1>running the NFL and it was hey, whatever you whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you do, but you can still play on Sundays. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe that he was allowed to play in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL to go right back to play, because if that

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<v Speaker 1>happened now, he'd be out of the league for at

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<v Speaker 1>least a couple I'd like to think the NFL would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out of the league for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>because there's protect the Shield, and there's hey, guys who

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<v Speaker 1>were killed, their blood is in your limousine. What was

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<v Speaker 1>your involvement in this, which we never know. We have

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<v Speaker 1>never known. Even the relatives of the two victims say

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to watch ray Lewis, hard to watch him

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<v Speaker 1>play football because he knows more about these deaths, and

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<v Speaker 1>no one's ever said anything. I can't believe they would

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<v Speaker 1>have allowed him to play different NFL under Roger Goodell,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a much different time and if nothing else, you

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<v Speaker 1>go on the exempt list and there you sit. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean part of this is also, look how swiftly it

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<v Speaker 1>got resolved in terms of getting to a plea agreement. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in an off season, so he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get back in. I not often do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a case move so swiftly either, So I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of an outlier in that regard. But from

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL perspective undertag lebou and that's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>they operated, you know, it was as long as you're

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<v Speaker 1>literally on the field, suited up and ready to go,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter. And that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>as Goodell took over, trying to clean it up. Hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been imperfect, absolutely hasn't been an unmitigated disaster in certain circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>no question about it. But there was at least an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt too, and I hate the term, but protect the

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<v Speaker 1>shield to where there is some standard, some code of conduct, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to where you're you're held to at least a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a higher standard with this, I mean. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>always bad, right. It remains something that if you watch

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<v Speaker 1>any NFL show that Ray Lewis is part of, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see commentary on social media about it. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in terms of Captain c for a Pro Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Michael Vick, you know, for for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing or for the Pro Bowl when

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually played, but just that same idea that these

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<v Speaker 1>things still stand and people wanting to get to an

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<v Speaker 1>answer but also trying to figure out where that fandom stops.

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<v Speaker 1>He's allowed to play, he goes back and he has

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great all time seasons in NFL history,

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<v Speaker 1>which also I think bears a lot of the brunt

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<v Speaker 1>of boy nothing ever really happened to this guy, because

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<v Speaker 1>not only was he able to go back and play,

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<v Speaker 1>but he goes back and plays is he leads his

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<v Speaker 1>team to the super Bowl. It's one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>defenses of all time. And here's ray Lewis a year

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<v Speaker 1>after Hey, dude, you were involved in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>murder to hey, I'm going to Disney World. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a very difficult optic to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go from one year to the next. And hey, he

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<v Speaker 1>was all we talked about for a while and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was oh no, now he's playing and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>a hero. Didn't Trent Jifer actually got to do they

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Disney World tech But yeah, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to ray Lewis part. But the whole thing wasted.

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<v Speaker 1>Celebrated DP to Bonham and and especially because this has

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<v Speaker 1>become such an historic team. So all this is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens are getting set for their season and they

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<v Speaker 1>make two big moves, one in draft and one in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. They signed Shannon Sharp to play tight end

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<v Speaker 1>and they draft running back Jamal Lewis out of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Billick, the offensive genius that he was, was hired

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<v Speaker 1>away from the Minnesota Vikings in his second year now

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<v Speaker 1>with the Baltimore Ravens, and it's kind of odd that

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<v Speaker 1>he winds up being a guy that wins the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an offensive genius and he wins on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of one of the greatest defenses ever and an

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<v Speaker 1>offense that barely scored enough points over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the sea. And that's that's such an odd thing for

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<v Speaker 1>a coach to come in and go, yep, it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>My offense is coming in. This is what we're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna light the world on fire. And it no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really the defense and defensive coordinator Rex Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>who is gonna wind up being the guy getting most

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<v Speaker 1>of the credit. Well, that's it. I mean, you had

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<v Speaker 1>five games where you didn't score an offensive touchdown, as

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go through the regular season and their run to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, but five games without a an offensive touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Trent Dilfer under center. Wide receivers most couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>name any member of that receiving corps except for Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>Sharpe that's Hall of Fame tight end. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Jamal Lewis and a young guy named Priest Holmes

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<v Speaker 1>getting after it. So you know, offensively, you had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys who made their mark and certainly want

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<v Speaker 1>a number of fantasy titles for people both in in

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens uniforms and out. But yeah, Brian Billick knew what

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<v Speaker 1>he had. You know, run the ball, played good defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and do what you can to protect the football. So

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<v Speaker 1>all those are your quote offensive weapons. Also included Jermaine Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>who we're gonna get to in a bit, Brandon Stokely.

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<v Speaker 1>That star studded defense. It wasn't just Ray Lewis. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Sam Adams and Rob Burnett and Michael McCrary, Tony Sira, Goose,

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<v Speaker 1>Dahlias Thomas, Peter Bullware, Dwayne Starks, Chris McAllister, Rod Woodson

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<v Speaker 1>the secondary. And when you look and see these were

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they had, it really kind of makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>they had that kind of season because you would expect

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed when you have eight guys of that caliber

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<v Speaker 1>playing and you're starting a Hall of famers, pro perennial

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowlers, guys who went on to great careers in

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<v Speaker 1>media because of their celebrity and their success with the

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<v Speaker 1>this team and rolling through their NFL careers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just go back and watch, just do yourself a

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<v Speaker 1>favor of a quip a couple of quick YouTube highlight

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<v Speaker 1>videos and watch how these guys hit It's a different

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<v Speaker 1>NFL in because this was still a bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>throwback and a couple of those names you mentioned when

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<v Speaker 1>you have Obviously we talked about Ray Lewis, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you get into the way, you know Woodson played or

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<v Speaker 1>or Sharper at the other linebacker position. I mean, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got guys that were heavy hitters and really set the

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<v Speaker 1>tone for a game on that first possession. So while

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens are getting set for what they hope is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a great year, let's take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at some other things that happened in the year two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>Back when Conan O'Brien was on TV a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody watched him kind of a big deal, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean now, the whole TBS thing, But back

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<v Speaker 1>when you know he was Conan O'Brien was whoa Conan O'Brien.

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<v Speaker 1>He was that guy that was writing for the Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody was excited about leaves and a the Y

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<v Speaker 1>two K bug was all the rage. Remember, everybody thought

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<v Speaker 1>every all machinery in the United States was gonna go down.

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<v Speaker 1>When we turned the calendar from two thousand, I lost

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<v Speaker 1>three days of my life being locked in the Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>facility in case something really bad really did happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of free meals out of here, you did,

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<v Speaker 1>But what a miserable Hey, you gotta be there, why this?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if it goes to hell, we've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>there to fix it. The Florida election recount, which then

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<v Speaker 1>spawned an HBO movie as we didn't know who was

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<v Speaker 1>going to win the election between Al Gore and President

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<v Speaker 1>George Bush. Gladiator. One best picture that when Russell Crowe

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<v Speaker 1>was like the Star, the beautiful mind and Gladiator, that

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<v Speaker 1>was like his two or three year run of being

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<v Speaker 1>He's the biggest star in the world. And now Joaquin

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix laughs at him and you stab me, And now

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<v Speaker 1>I have a We sequalize that in uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Afterlife sequelized Gladiator. Gladiator too. In The Afterlife done

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular song of the year, Breathe. Faith Hill

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<v Speaker 1>had to run of being the hottest woman on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet for a little while, and she was waiting all

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<v Speaker 1>day for Sunday night. That's that's you better get ready

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<v Speaker 1>and I her whole tight yeah, And I celebrate all

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<v Speaker 1>of Tim McGraw's catalog and and obviously they've been aread forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's great. Breathe again and breathe again. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a song, isn't it. I can hear you breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you breathe logic and I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>all the lyrics, but it's not yours breathe, a different

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<v Speaker 1>breathe again. You're channeling somebody else. I can hear you breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>I can feel you need Yeah, Okay, that's the breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a couple of breathe songs, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>just just Breathe by Pearl, just that breathe. Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Okay. So that's where we are in the

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<v Speaker 1>year two thousand. Coming up next, the big touchdown drought

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<v Speaker 1>a big quarterback change, and the drama continues for the

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Raven Special Teams with Jason Smith in my card.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, you've looked it up on the computer, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I I remember, I didn't, you know, Butcher? The song

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<v Speaker 1>can feel no breathe because I can feel you breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's washing over me and suddenly I'm mounting into you.

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<v Speaker 1>Breathe again. There's nothing left to prove, baby to be

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<v Speaker 1>he Well, you know what if if Faith Will ever

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<v Speaker 1>stops doing concerts, I think you can step in fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not singing full throaty. Let you know

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<v Speaker 1>you let me go in front of a crowd. We

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<v Speaker 1>take this show on the road. Let's get this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a crowd. Let's get it. So. The

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens start the year two thousand with three shutouts

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<v Speaker 1>in their first five games. They blank Pittsburgh sixteen nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>Sincinnati thirty seven nothing, Cleveland twelve nothing. In the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that, a big win over the Jaguars thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything looks great. But then that's when the problems start.

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<v Speaker 1>As you referenced earlier, the Ravens go five games without

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown, five games, and quarterback Tony Banks loses his

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<v Speaker 1>job to Trent Dilfer after the loss to Tennessee. People

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<v Speaker 1>forget Tony Banks started the season as the Ravens quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and he lost his job midway through to Trent Dilfor.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being high on Tony Banks fantasy wise going

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<v Speaker 1>into this year, thinking, Oh, I like, Tony Banks had

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<v Speaker 1>the big game against Jacksonville and I'm like, oh, Tony Banks,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Banks. I remember really liking him in fantasy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he lost the job, and it was what Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Banks has done well, some of the metrics we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't look at necessarily the same way back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty four point seven percent completion rate. That wasn't awful, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a different and that was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's the middle of the pack, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little below, but certainly not the train wreck it

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<v Speaker 1>would be perceived as now as you know, when so

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<v Speaker 1>many guys completing two thirds of their passes, as you

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<v Speaker 1>get more of the tight end running backs involved and

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<v Speaker 1>and less shots down field. But eight touchdowns, eight and

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<v Speaker 1>receptions had the five and three record, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>generating much at all as we got to this stretch, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not moving the ball effectively. The run game obviously then

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<v Speaker 1>bogs down, and now you've got a self fulfilling just

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<v Speaker 1>a cycle and that happens, and you make the change.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember Tony Banks and trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>whether he was going to be able to just come

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<v Speaker 1>back and steal the job back. But the door never opened.

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<v Speaker 1>He winds up playing against the Jaguars and beating them

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen ten game without a touchdown. Then they lose to

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins ten three. They lose to the Titans fourteen six,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came out of the game, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>when they decided, Okay, Trent Dilford is gonna be our guy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Trent Dilfor didn't like the world on fire his first start.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost to the Steelers nine to six. So now

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly a season that began. Look at this all world

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens defense there at the midweight point of the

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<v Speaker 1>season five and four, and it's like, are they ever

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<v Speaker 1>gonna score a touchdown? But that's the funny thing about it,

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<v Speaker 1>right in that three game losing Street, they gave up

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three points. Unfortunately they only scored fifteen. He's thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about what what would happen now? I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 1>what team doesn't score twenty four points in a week's

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<v Speaker 1>offense is bugging man? You know, you know the miskick

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<v Speaker 1>or you know this red zone opportunity, and everybody's losing

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<v Speaker 1>their minds this type of offense in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>what was a promising start to a season, you're calling

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<v Speaker 1>for heads roll. It's amazing that they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>stick together but then after Dilfer got through that first

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<v Speaker 1>start against Pittsburgh, the Ravens started rolling and they won games.

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<v Speaker 1>They scored over twenty points in the next five weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to win five in a row. They beat Arizona thirteen seven.

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<v Speaker 1>They're eleven and four. They get to the final game

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. They play the New York Jets. They're

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<v Speaker 1>playing at home, and the Jets needed this game to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially get into the playoffs. And it started off great

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember this game. I remember the Jets scored

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns in the first quarter. Testaverdi was playing really,

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<v Speaker 1>really well, and I thought, hey, we're gonna get the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens here. The Ravens were unbeatable after they solved their

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<v Speaker 1>mid season problems because they beat everybody. And now Trent

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<v Speaker 1>Dilfer's putting points on the board. We're gonna get them.

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<v Speaker 1>We're up fourteen nothing. Well, but look at the points again. Happened, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>points against Once they started getting things together, seven a

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<v Speaker 1>narrow victory over Tennessee Dallas zero points allowed, seven points

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to the Browns, sending the bye week, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they come back San Diego beat them three, give up

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<v Speaker 1>seven to the Cardinals and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Diedrich Warren and Richie Anderson running free, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, wait a minute, what's going on here? You

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<v Speaker 1>had turnovers by the Jets. You had Jermaine Lewis returning

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<v Speaker 1>a kick for a touchdown, which was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>other storylines of the season that people don't really remember

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to this Ravens because when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the nuts and bolts, it's okay, it's the Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis murder trial, it's the great defense. Oh yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>They had trouble scoring. Trent Dilford was the quarterback. But

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<v Speaker 1>as good as their defense was, their special teams were phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jermaine Lewis and one of the all time great

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<v Speaker 1>seasons returning kicks for them. They relied on him and

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Lewis to do everything for that offense. It's Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis on the ground and he had a great season,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, And Priest Holmes, who you know, hey, who

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was gonna turn to the running back he did.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jermaine Lewis, it seemed like every week would have

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<v Speaker 1>a big return for a touchdown, would spark things with

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<v Speaker 1>a big play on special teams. And when you had

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<v Speaker 1>those three facets working defense, working number one, special teams

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<v Speaker 1>working right behind it, that greases things up for the

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<v Speaker 1>offense a little bit. In the offense doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do way too much. They just had to do enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what they did. Yeah, I mean winning the

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<v Speaker 1>battle of field position. We'll talk about Kyle Richardson all right,

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<v Speaker 1>his efforts, Matt Stover taking care of business. Uh that

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<v Speaker 1>you're kicker, But Corey Harris your kickoff for earned specialists

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<v Speaker 1>averaging twenty three a return. That's that's unheard of in

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<v Speaker 1>today's NFL. Likewise, Louis was averaging over sixteen yards a

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<v Speaker 1>punt return. They finished twelve and four, but they finished

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<v Speaker 1>behind Tennessee, who had had a phenomenal season, so they

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<v Speaker 1>have to play three games who advance the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, this is where the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens defense sat following the regular season. Fewest points per

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<v Speaker 1>game allowed in NFL history, three, fewest rush yards ever allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>nine d and seventy didn't allow a thousand yards rushing

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<v Speaker 1>on the season. Forty nine forced turnovers, not twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine forced turnovers. You don't get to that number

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<v Speaker 1>very often. You'll get you'll get up to you to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty turnovers. You're talking about three turnovers a game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who averages that three turnover game? We saw it in

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bears. Yes, they had to go there one

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<v Speaker 1>of the outlines because every week Khalil Matt had a

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<v Speaker 1>strip sack in a fumble. So that that's why it works.

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<v Speaker 1>But you see how much different. Uh, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>or two injuries, changes, I'm scheming to try to take

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<v Speaker 1>a guy away, But I mean this this team from

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive front, from Sara Goose and all those guys

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the back seven. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 1>just opportunistic and then once they got up on you

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<v Speaker 1>forget about it. So that's where the Ravens are and

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<v Speaker 1>they're already getting the Hey, is this the best defense

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever seen? Conversation? As we get into the playoffs again,

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<v Speaker 1>three games they had to play to win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Their first wild card game was against the Denver Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>and this game is known for one play, the Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>Sharp tip touchdown pass off of Jamal Lewis that goes

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty eight yards that really won the game. For Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pass in the flat that Trent Dilfer throws

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes off the hands of Jamal Lewis. Now

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<v Speaker 1>for him, reason, well, it's the Ravens. It's their offense

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that great. But for some reason, Shannon Sharpe was

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<v Speaker 1>right there. He grabs the ball a little bit outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the flat where Jamal Lewis was, and because he

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<v Speaker 1>catches the defense flat footed, he takes it all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down the sideline and into the end zone for

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. And that really just won the game because

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell that the will of the Broncos was like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, really, you know that that's the play they get.

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<v Speaker 1>They get a big tip play like that, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>their way. They win that game twenty one to three.

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<v Speaker 1>The Broncos never really threatened and it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>typical Ravens game in which the offense did enough. The

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<v Speaker 1>defense was able to keep the Broncos, who had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good offense back then, I was able to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them off the board except for a field goal in

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<v Speaker 1>the second quarter, and this game was never really in doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Gus fro Yard gust Farrott hundred, twenty four yards in

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<v Speaker 1>an interception in this forget gust Farrott played for the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he just play for the Redskins. It was him

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<v Speaker 1>and Heath Shulert. No, no, no, started that playoff game

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<v Speaker 1>for the Broncos. Four sacks and then Jerry's Jackson actually

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<v Speaker 1>got some time as well, five and ten fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>yards Notre Dame. Right, Yeah, he absorbed a sack as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I man, just really nothing going. This was the Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson year when he was the thousand yard rusher and

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan's system. Every guy they put it, whether it was

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.719
<v Speaker 1>him or orlandis Gary, how we're gonna run for fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards and be a superstar. Whoever they put in

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<v Speaker 1>there was great and that carried the offense. Thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>those guys now, they'd be getting ten million dollar contracts

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<v Speaker 1>off those years. Different times, different doesn't matter. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna resign him, no or let him go, because be

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<v Speaker 1>another guy coming in who's gonna play even better. Shark

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Man, take a fight, it falls out. Next one

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<v Speaker 1>goes in line awaiting the Baltimore Ravens. Following this game

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<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee Titans. This was some kind of battle. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, the a f C Championship game in

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<v Speaker 1>which Tony Siragusa sits on rich Gannon and the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Super Bowl, and then the dominant performance

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<v Speaker 1>against the New York Giants. All that and more coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next right here on Special Teams. The Baltimore Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>were now two games away from the Super Bowl, awaiting

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<v Speaker 1>them a date with the Tennessee Titans, who were absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loaded this year. Jason Smith Mike Harmon taking you through

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<v Speaker 1>this magical year of the Ravens for Special Teams. This

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<v Speaker 1>game was ten ten going into the fourth quarter. It

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a bigger, larger lead for Tennessee, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, Al del Greco, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most reliable field goal kickers in NFL history, missed a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal, but there was a penalty, got another chance,

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<v Speaker 1>got it blocked, had another miss in the second quarter

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Then in the fourth quarter it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans We're finally going to get a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>to give them a thirteen ten lead, and maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be enough. But the field goal gets blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Mitchell runs it back for a touchdown and that

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<v Speaker 1>gives them a seventeen to ten lead. Like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about all season long with this team. Hey, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>was great, but boy, look at the special teams making

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<v Speaker 1>the play of the year to that point early fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter looks like a chip shot field goal thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>yards right Al del Greco. We talk about the different

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<v Speaker 1>announcers and the way they'd say his name. Here he comes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Al dal Greco, like he was the guy from

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<v Speaker 1>the neighbor to us. All so, here he comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and you get a block, and here we go again.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could see it on the side if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going through his head because he's already

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<v Speaker 1>missed a bunch of three times today. And it's what

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<v Speaker 1>do I needed? Did he do something different? Did he

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<v Speaker 1>tries something that they wind up getting the block and

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>it goes in for a touchdown? That is typical Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>this season. And you see the Tennessee sideline after that

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>play off. All right, they got us, like they finally

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>got us. Say it was inching to there and and

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>even a narrow lead wasn't gonna be safe. But nobody

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 1>had really been able to punch Baltimore in the mouth.

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you had a couple of loss in the

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>middle of the season when they had their sputtering, but

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>even the defense and special teams were able to carry

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>them here and you were just waiting for it to

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>happen again. Their last gasp effort goes into the end

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>zone for the Ravens again. Ray Lewis picks off a

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>pass that goes through running back Eddie George's hands. He

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>goes in for a touchdown. Final scorers twenty four to ten,

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and once again you say, well, the offense did barely enough,

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but look at the special teams in the defense. It's

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a broken record. But I mean, we want to talk

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>about this to spotlight just the dominant ear that the

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Ravens had. They win this game, and now they go

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>to the a f C Championship game, and this was

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 1>the battle of the Titans, not the game with the Titans.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the game after because the Raiders. This was in

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the middle of their run of boy, look how good

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders are. Rich Gannon had completely taken over this team.

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 1>They had his personality, John Gruden's personality. This was a

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>three year run the Raiders had where they were one

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of the top teams in the a f C. But

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.959
<v Speaker 1>snake bit year after year after year, you had the

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>tuck rule. That hurt that I know, and it hurts

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you to say it. That's why there was a dramatic

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>clause as your Jets love himself and I don't want

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. You just bleeped yourself without saying

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>a word. You had this great Raiders team fall victim

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to the tuck rule, to Tony Siragosa sitting on rich Gannon,

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to, and then losing to Jon Gruden

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl because John grud knew all the plays,

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>everything the Raiders were gonna run. When he jumped from

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders to Tampa Bay as their head, did he

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>tape things? I don't know that he did. But the

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that Bill Callahan didn't change a lot of the

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>hand signals that rich Gannon using all those things that

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of helped Tampa Bay respect him. The whole dopiness

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of the hand signals. I know you've got the transmission

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>through the head, head set and and helmet and everything

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>these days, but not changing your signals. And you coach

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>kids soccer and softball, you're changing them. You can't change it.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>But you change them up enough in professional football that

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't come on, man, I mean they just think

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>about this three year run for the Raiders for a second,

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:24.479
<v Speaker 1>where it was Saragosa and it was Brady in the snow,

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and then it was Gruden leaving the only coach you

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>probably would have beat them in the Super Bowl. And

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what that could. This team could have went on

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and maybe one three super Bowls, but those three things

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>kept them out. And now they're just known for leaving

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a dump after all these years for the second time. Wow,

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>look at you, Well, aren't we gonna do a special

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>teams the post boredem on the Oakland Elamy County Coliseum.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I do, I do miss the baseball field. I miss.

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I do miss. As a guy who

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in that stadium when I

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>lived in the Bay Area, I'm not gonna miss it.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It was terrible. This was a battle of irresistible force.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a movable object. It was the Ravens defense against

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders offense that was averaging twenty nine points a game.

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>This game had the Ravens fire the first salvo Shannon

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Sharp's nineties six yard touchdown on third and eighteen. It

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>looked like it was a play where maybe the Raiders

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>were gonna stop them, they were gonna have to punt,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Raiders are gonna get on the board. But early on

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>it's that slant pass over the middle of the Shannon

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Sharp And you've seen this play many times and what

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>gets overlooked. Brandon Stokely we talked about a little bit ago,

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>a terrific block that launches Shannon Sharp into the end zone,

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and it was, Oh, my goodness, you're gonna look back

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and say when at the end and go, what are

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the what are the Ravens offense do in the playoffs? Well,

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>they had the ninety six yard passed to Shannon Sharp.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>They had the tip pass to Shannon Sharp against Denver,

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.479
<v Speaker 1>and those are really the two only plays the offense

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>made in the player stands out, its defense, special teams,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of Matt Stover matts. He had a

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>big here in fantasy that huge. He was huge. Then

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Tony Siragusa sacks Rich Gannon later in the first or

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>hits him, knocks him down and sits on him. Basically,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Gannon comes out of the game. Bobby Hoyan comes in,

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>legend Bobby Hoyen. You know he did he win a

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>playoff game for the Eagles. He played in the playoff

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>games on Yeah, I think he did when the Eagles.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>That was back when the Eagles are going. But we

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>got Ti Debtmer, We got Coy debtmer We and anybody

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>else named Debtmer. We got Bobby Hoyan coming in and playing.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they struck it rich finally with

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Donovan McNabb, but boy, they really had some quarterbacks to

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>go through in the nineties. You really just wanted to

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>get the Syracuse in there, and a little bit, just

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit, just wanted to make sure actually he

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>had no you know, actual record as a playoff passer,

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Hoyne, no record. We got no record for him.

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>He appeared, but he did not have any record. Hoyan's

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>first pass was picked off, matched over kicked the field

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>goal tend nothing was the lead and and that was

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>really it. From there. They go on to win this

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>game six team to three and shut down a Raiders

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>offense that was that good. But without Rich Gannon, what

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>did you really expect him to be able to do? All? Right?

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Gannon goes out, he was eleven of twenty one eight yards.

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>He'd been sacked four times, two picks Hoying with two interceptions. Uh,

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>just a miserable run. Overall you look at offensively, they

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>weren't able to generate anything on the ground. Tyrone Wheatley

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve carries seven yards and remember Tyron Wheatley, all he

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>had to do is fall forward. That was about two

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.959
<v Speaker 1>and a half yards. He was a giant man. Uh,

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you gotta make it past the line of Scrimmagey when

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you fall forward from three yards back of the line

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage only gaining ahead, that's just it. You know,

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>getting hit in the backfield with regularity not gonna work.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I guess the Raiders should take some consolation.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>They didn't give up a special teams or defensive touchdown

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in this one atory victor that so we'll take one here.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>It's still a loss and all the would it could

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>have showed us, But away we go. The Ravens move on.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They had two Super Bowl thirty five awaiting them, the

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>New York Giants, and at this point the Ravens defense

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was it was like when they walked around, there was

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>an are about them, as if you just had to

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>stay away. It was what are they gonna wind up

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>doing to the New York Giants and the Super Bowl?

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Just how bad is it gonna get? And it got

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty bad for the New York Giants, tell you that much.

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But but this was one of those what's gonna happen

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>when they actually kick it off? And for the time

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>going between the games, a lot of the talk was

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>here's Ray Lewis back at the Super Bowl a year

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>after what happened. It became a big topic of conversation

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's really what dominated everything those two weeks going

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>into Super Bowl thirty five. Well, one of the things

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>though that did help out radio road was had not

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>yet really become what Radio row is, right, and the

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>build up to what the Super Bowl has become. Media

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>exposure and and the global view that you have, and

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>really the circus that the media night became. I mean,

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it's paired back a little bit now that it's in

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the evening prime time viewing and all. But you had

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a run where for a number of years, even when

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>when Lewis got back there that there was some problems,

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>shall we say, with certain questions being needing to be

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>asked because that time, it was about deer antler spray

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>performance and answers, etcetera. But for ray Lewis and this

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>one just there's a lot of folks that weren't going

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to ask the questions that need to be asked either

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>or about that history, because what answer were you going

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to get? Right you, It wasn't something the NFL really

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to address, and ray Lewis became very good at

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>deflecting away from any of the questions related to that event. Yeah,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>his his answer was always he had the one big

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>answer of God is never gonna put anybody in this

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>situation to do something bad, and and you know I

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I will put someone like me in that situation to

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>do something that bad. And he would he would always

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of blow it off by by giving those oblique comments.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Well because when the the repeat right when they were

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>facing the forty niners became a the first question he

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>was about the dear Antler spray, and I stood and

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>listened for about seven minutes as he started to sermonize

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>as like, Okay, I'm gonna go get one on ones

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>with the rest of the team. You guys, you guys,

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>update me. If he ever actually addresses the question that

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>was being asked here, and look, it's it's you can't

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>fall to good strategy, as you always say on the

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>show that we Just wee DIT's on Fox Sports Radio.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you may not like it, you may think

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it's really disingenuous and crazy, but it got people to

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>just say, Okay, once he's done with this, we actually

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>have to talk football, because he's now taken up twenty

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>five minutes of the allotted forty five or fifty minute

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>interview session. When we got to the game, it was

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly as it was expected. First quarter, Trent Dilford throws

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a thirty eight yard touchdown to Brandon Stokely. Okay, seven nothing,

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and already you could feel this game is getting away

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>from Kerry Collins and the New York Giants. Well, he

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>got that reward for the big block in the last

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>time I'll throw you on. Okay, Matt Stover kicks the

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>field goal. It's tend nothing at halftime and already this

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 1>is well, the Giants offense really has not been able

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to do anything, and this is the best the NFC

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>has to offer. Baltimore puts the next points on the board.

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Starks returns to pick forty nine yards for a touchdown.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.399
<v Speaker 1>But this actually begins one of the more exciting sequences

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>in Super Bowl history, touchdowns on three consecutive plays. Starks

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>returns the interception for a touchdown. Make it seventeen nothing

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>early in the third quarter. Everybody's packing up, time to go,

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>This is over. And then Ron Dixon returns the ensuing

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>kickoff ninety seven yards for a touchdown. Now it's seventeen

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to seven. Okay, maybe the Giants are getting back in

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>on this. And then what do we get, Not a

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>defensive play, not an offensive play, but Jermaine Lewis putting

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl away on that ensuing kickoff eighty four

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>yards for a touchdown. And I remember Brian Billick screaming

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>down the sideline seeing the NFL Films video after going

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>j lu j lu j lu, because he knew that

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>was winning the Super Bowl for them. He goes in

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>for a score. It's seven. The Giants don't put up

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a fight after that. Jamal Lewis would had a touchdown

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>run in the fourth quarter on his way to a

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred yard day for Kerry Collins, a miserable day for him,

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen out of thirty nine for a hundred and twelve

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>yards and four interceptions. That was what the Baltimore Ravens

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>did to him on defense for the game. The Giants

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>offense total just a hundred and fifty two yards, turned

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the ball over four times, and Carry Collins got sacked

0:35:55.080 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>four times. Baltimore's defense allowed one touchdown in four playoff games.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>So all that stuff I just said, think about that

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>one touchdown in four playoff games. Your defense allowing one

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>touchdown in four games, ineptitude of your opponents, or do

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you just say you're swarming, uh and taking care of business?

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And because obviously you can look at the Super Bowl,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it's one that you kind of fast forward through a

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of it. And for the Carry Collins side, just

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a miserable experience under Darrest all day long. You go

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>through all the stats and just all right, tackle for

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>loss here, tackle for loss there, this guy with a

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, past defense, Uh, he's got three, he's got another.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean there was just no room to breathe. I

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like that call back three for the Giant nor wrong

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>song celebrate Faith Hills catalog A tiki Barber ran for

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>forty nine yards. That was it. I mean this this

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Giant's team was pretty well rounded. Was it the greatest offense? No?

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 1>But were they interous enough yes? Was the defense good enough? Yes?

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>But they weren't even a match. And Pete Mitchell sit

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>there for a minute. You know, I'm waiting for top

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>gun two just like everybody else's. I'm just waiting for it.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Soon enough, my friends, soon enough. So that was your

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>victory for the Baltimore Ravens. They win the game, thirty

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 1>four seven, and they put a punctuation on what could

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>be the greatest season ever for a defense. Now, let

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>me throw this out here before you give me eighty

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.439
<v Speaker 1>five Bears, because I remember how great the Bears were

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and what they were able to do, and how they

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>really changed the game defensively with the forty six defense

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>and different pressures on the quarterback. I get all that

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>this is more of a modern era of the NFL,

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>where you had to stop quarterbacks and running backs equally.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Eighty five was still team's gonna run the football, and

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what we gotta stop and stop that. How many

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are really gonna go crazy unless you're playing somebody

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>like Dan Marino or Joe Montana, It's going to be

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>an easier thing to do to shut teams down. It's

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>a little bit harder in two thousand. You also have

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>more free agency, playing havoc with with rosters. I look

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>at this and I go, it's hard for me to

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>argue against them being the greatest defense of all time.

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Certainly it's up for debate, as you're always. As you mentioned,

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the change of the game just in those fifteen years

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>is immant. I've seen a numerous articles and breakdowns looking

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>at the quarterbacks played during this stretch. Let's have a

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>little fun, shall we. Uh, Well, you got McNair, okay, cool,

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Mark Brunel, Jamie Martin, good times. Go back to Mark Burnell,

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Scott Mitchell, Achille Smith. Wait a minute, Achille Smith. Drew

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Rosenhouse talked the Bengals into picking him third over. There's

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>a good job by him. Tim Couch, Doug Peterson and

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Spurgeon win Hey. Doug Peterson is a Super Bowl winner.

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That he is has a head coach. He's a super

0:38:55.920 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Bowl winner. Ken Graham and Cordell Stewart. Cordell Stewart was

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>really good for about a year exactly. Jay Fiedler, Ryan Leaf.

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>These are Vinny Testaverday. These are all high draft picks.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You are talking about Brad Johnson the final year of

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Troy Yankman. Brett Johnson won a Super Bowl. This is

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years later. Yeah, I mean, you know,

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not like he did a lot, but he won.

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>And Jake Plower, he had some high draft picks. You

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>beat Theater Brock to go to the Super Bowl and

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 1>we did. He beat Tony Easton to win the Super Bowl.

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But you know how how I always describe it, Jason,

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it's you can only beat He's not the schedule. I

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>just felt like some of the names and watching a

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>video I don't know going through, I thought that was fantastic.

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Outside of spurge in win, I think all those guys

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>would like number one, number two, top ten picks all around. Yeah,

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>look how many teams missed on quarterbacks. Here here's some

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>guys I mean, but I mean that's certainly the mark here, right,

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Achille Smith, Ryan Leaf, and um Tim Couch. That's just

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>three of them. Number one, number number from there. Let's

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>do it. So it's just an interesting run. I love

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>the debates across time because you could just argue too

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>your blue in the face and never come to any

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of resolution. It's like all the inane goat conversations

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>we have in the NBA, and certainly that we have

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL with Drew Brees, Tom Brady and you

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>know Peyton Manning in often doing Peyton Manning things and commercials,

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>but always in the record books that we have these

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>debates all the time. It's uh, it's nice and it's

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a safe little world. What really baffles me? Do you

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about something that happened now in the NFL that

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>had the way it happened back then. Rex Ryan was

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in his second year as defensive coordinator for the Ravens,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and he puts together a defense that is arguably the

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 1>best all time. Right, you want to say, argue between

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>them in the eighties. It's him and his old man,

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and those are the defenses that we're talking about. So

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>he puts this defense together, he doesn't get a phone

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>call for a head coach, coach until the Jets call

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>him in two thousand nine. How how long do you

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>think it would take in the NFL normally for a

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.439
<v Speaker 1>guy in his second year as defensive coordinator. You put

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>this kind of defense out there that teams aren't. We

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta have him. We gotta look at the defluquid he

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>just put together. We gotta go get this guy. And

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes after the final game, and yeah it took No.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually during the fourth quarter. Okay, listen,

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give you a hat to put seven. Come on,

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 1>you're killing him. Let's let's just put this on. I mean, really,

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>it's that it's that fast that he becomes a head

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>coach and it took him till two thousand and nine

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to get that phone call. I've always wondered, and this

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>is just me spitballing as we talked about those two defenses.

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>How much people gave Buddy credit for what Rob was

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>doing and Rex were doing. All he's doing is seeing

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the play as old man hasn't, which no, no, no,

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>But but if they were picking his brain and he

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a de facto right, so like the Ryan brothers,

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like and Rob, who was with us for at Fox

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio for a little bit, but for for Rex

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and the job they were doing here, I was wondering

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 1>if maybe that was held against him, that maybe it

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't all just him at least for a little ways. Yeah,

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's enough to say you're not gonna

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>be a head cover for nine years. No, I mean

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that that's a lot because you know, look, you know,

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Brian Billy didn't do anything defensively, you know, you know,

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he was the head coach in charge of the offense.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Of the defense is the defense, and that's how things

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>are gonna go. But how he does it takes him

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>that long. It's baffling because they had other great years

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 1>another great yeah, absolutely, and then and he still took

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>him this long. Well, because you just think about the

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>way a hot coach comes up nowadays, right, all you

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>need to have is one quick run in college or

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>a good year as a coordinator, and the phone's ringing

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>because we're looking at what six to eight coaches on

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>average year. I mean, the carousel does not stop spinning.

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>So his number would have been called a lot faster

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and today. But again we also look at a lot

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>of teams go to the offensive route thinking that that's

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>what they need to fix. In his nine years with

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the team, the defense never ranked lower than six in

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. And it took him that long. I mean,

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously showed that he had some potential, but he had shortcomings.

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>As well. But I mean, really to not get that

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>chance when you're always looking for the next great young

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>O C or d C. How do they not get

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>rated for for these guys coming off this performance. I

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know, personality. I mean, I'm thinking of a number

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>of things, Like you know, I've had conversations with with

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Rex years ago. I mean, I don't I don't know

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>in an interview process does something go awry? Is just

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>not a field that they wanted him as a head coach,

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Like he's a coordinator and not a headman. He always

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>wonder where the disconnect happens, especially on teams like this

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that are sustained. Right, they weren't a blip on the

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>radar because if you said, okay, look at the personnel,

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gotten two thousand plus special teams. Everything worked, so

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll give it a mulligan. We'll see if

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it happens another year. But if you have that kind

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of sustained run, eventually people are knocking down the door saying,

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll cobble together whatever because they also won

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and and I don't do it with the same you know,

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>bile like everybody else. Trent Ifer was the quarterback a

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>guy who was a replacement for Tony Banks, right, so

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.399
<v Speaker 1>that his defense carried the day. So it's very much like, well,

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>go back to theirs. All right, let's take a look

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>back now at the two thousand ravens. Where are some

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of them? Now? My car? All right? We got Kim Herring,

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>head of Field Operations. You like this sports at clear

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>me dot com. What is clear me dot com? They

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>are a security screening at airports, sporting events, etcetera. With that,

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>does he do the wand I gets, hey, Kim Herring,

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you were on the two. I don't know he's the

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>head of field opt Probably not. Maybe he does that

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>once in a while. I don't have a one like

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>an undercover boss kind of thing. None, he goes in

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and sees that to day. Listen, kid, I'm not a

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>one guy. Okay, sorry, but all right now. Of course,

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>we've always got coaches Jamie Sharper at Georgetown, after the

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Poindexter is at Purdue. You've got Chris Redmond, business dev

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>business manager at Game on Mouth cards. So there you go,

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.919
<v Speaker 1>protecting the grill as you go. Kip Vicker's epic business

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>solution so accounting I T web design a bunch of

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:35.919
<v Speaker 1>other things you've got. Kyle Richardson mentioned him a little

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 1>bit earlier the Punter. He's a VP of sales and

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>marketing for a place that helps with screening calls for

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>people in need of medical care. Screening calls for people

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in need of medical care, like making sure that's real

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>people falling well, that that things get processed properly, and

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and that you're sensitive to maybe different needs. Right, So

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>training if if you're dealing with maybe a here in

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and certain things they may have faced in the field,

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>so you know how to come at it from a

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>psychological perspective as you start asking questions of what can

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I do for you? That? All right, just try to

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>get a little more background information that he's part of

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that process. Well, if you work as like local cable

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>companies and and uh dry cleaning, my dad would love that.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>He needs he needs someone to help with that could

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>be a guy that helps cables out. Again, I need

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I need help on this, all right. Yeah, I don't

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>know that they go that far, Okay, but I'm sure

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you can apply the same principle that would that would

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>help my dad to get to that level. I was

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>on the phone waiting for forty five minutes today. He's

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy who helped run support and build games and

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>such at Yahoo. We we faced a lot of curious

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 1>calls and emails through our time there. Uh Walt probably

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was among them. So there's our look Special Teams, the

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>two thousand Ravens, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. You can hit

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 1>us up on Twitter at how about a Fresca? Mike

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>at Wollen Dome and the ideas. Who would you like

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.040
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0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of requests did the uh ninety three

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>bills not too long ago, and so now yeah, you

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>get a big request in we get enough want for

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it to day maybe we'll get it up there for you.

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