WEBVTT - Steve Sands Returns

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<v Speaker 1>Witness insurmountable deficits turn into unforgettable victories at the Travelers Championship,

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. The Travelers Championship there is only one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the Son of a Butcher podcast. I'm your host, Claude Harmon.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming off of a very very excited PGA Championships Xanderschoffle

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<v Speaker 1>gets his first major and wanted to take a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into it, so figured we would get one of

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<v Speaker 1>the voices of professional golf, Steve Sands, NBC Golf Channel.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's one of the best in the business

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<v Speaker 1>and had him on the pod before. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>a very very interesting week at Valhalla and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of storylines, just a lot of craziness from last week,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to get Steve Sands on to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and I think it is a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>So sit back and enjoy listening to Steve Sands my

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<v Speaker 1>guest today, Steve Sand's Voice of Golf on Golf Channel

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<v Speaker 1>and NBC Sansy at the beginning of the week. Beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the week at the PGA, if I told you

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines were going to be Scotti, Scheffler gets arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>Rory McElroy's getting divorced, Xander closes, Bryson has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to win another major and is a fan favorite. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>does any of that track with with what we thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>It makes perfect sense, Scott. I mean, that's exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>way the world has been the last you know, eight

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<v Speaker 2>or nine years, the last three or four years. In

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<v Speaker 2>the sport. It makes all the sense in the world

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<v Speaker 2>that a guy who sleeps with a Bible, who's the

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<v Speaker 2>hottest player on the planet, it's the most recognizable person

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<v Speaker 2>in the sport outside of Tiger, just outside the gates

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<v Speaker 2>at a major championship, would get into some type of

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<v Speaker 2>disruption or discussion with a police officer and it just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work. I mean, what are we talking about here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. You know, the legal part aside the sad

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<v Speaker 2>part is, of course we had to say this out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody lost his life, Claude, that was the reason

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<v Speaker 2>there was a traffic terror. That's the first thing and

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<v Speaker 2>really the only thing. The secondary part of the number

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<v Speaker 2>one player in the world being arrested. We've been to

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<v Speaker 2>sporting events a thousand times in our lives, Claude. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that traffic type of pattern. You know, maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances because of the traffic, but we've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>traffic outside of sporting events for years. That was just

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what happened. I hope the police

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<v Speaker 2>officer and Scotti are all perfectly fine, but again, we

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea what took place there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and listen, I've been in courtesy car. You ride

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<v Speaker 1>with the player you're trying to get in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all saying on the driving range. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many players you've You've done that one hundred times, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You've you've seen the traffic. You know you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy car. You know it's got the you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna they're gonna bring you in, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so definitely the guys I've worked with, DJ and Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you do that at majors, you do that

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<v Speaker 1>two or three times a year. It's just it's all

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<v Speaker 1>that part of it. And normally the police as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as they see the courtesy car, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 1>logos on the side of it, you get ushered right in.

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<v Speaker 1>Scotty Scheffler and Brooks Kepta have the same agent, Blake Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Blake's father, Randy Smith, is Scotty's swing coach, and Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and I were talking on the driving range. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>think that Blake Smith never thought he'd get a call

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he had to go get Scotti Scheffler out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are the odds of that happening going

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<v Speaker 2>into the week, What are the odds that happening anytime?

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly, I have no idea how this is all

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<v Speaker 2>going to play auclaude, but Friday morning last week has

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of the most bizarre, you know, stretches

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<v Speaker 2>of I'm Beyonce around a golf tournament in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of the sport. I mean, that was just yikes, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that was great and we laughed. There's this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows how this plays out. I mean, we're joking

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<v Speaker 2>about it now, but my goodness, you know, if this

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work out in anybody's favor, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be laughing here. Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean and talking to Randy Smith on Sunday, his

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Scotty's longtime swing instructor. He played Friday on

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<v Speaker 1>just pure adrenaline. I mean, just pure, one hundred percent adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody can prepare you for something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to think out of all the places Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>Scheffler ever thought he would be in a jail cell period,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone a jail cell at a major championship, is

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<v Speaker 1>just something that you just couldn't He couldn't even believe

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen. And then on top of that, he

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<v Speaker 1>goes out and plays an unbelievable round of golf. But

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<v Speaker 1>then Saturday again, his caddy, Teddy Scott's going to watch

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter graduate. Teddy Scott's not on the bag. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figured that was going to be Saturday was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tough for him. It was. Once he

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<v Speaker 1>got arrested, it was like a lot of the like

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<v Speaker 1>the wind went out of the sales of the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously everybody thinks that Scott he's on this run

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe win his second major championship. The rounds he

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<v Speaker 1>played on Friday was unbelievable. I mean, I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>he played that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's as good a round of golf as he's

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<v Speaker 2>ever played under the circumstances, considering it's not a Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>to major, I understand that, but for what he went

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<v Speaker 2>through that morning to come back out. She's sixty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized there were low scores that day, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. It's this incredible last for Saturday. Claude, I

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<v Speaker 2>just think he ran out of gas man. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what was going on, you know, in his mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Again you're talking about for people who don't understand. To

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<v Speaker 2>be number one in the world, you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>some omph to you. There is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 2>being mister nice guy all the time if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the best at something on the planet. But

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<v Speaker 2>Scotty is as nice a kid as you'll ever be around.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a daughter, he's the kind of guy

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<v Speaker 2>you want her to marry. He's he's warm, he's nice,

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<v Speaker 2>he's smart, he's thoughtful, he's an incredible athlete, he's competitive,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. He's got the whole package. I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe he got arrested. I just can't believe that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, well I'm gonna have to wait and see

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<v Speaker 2>how it all plays out. But what he did Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>with that Friday, with that sixty six, Claude, Holy smokes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you and I both know we've been around

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<v Speaker 2>these guys a long time. It's one thing to be talented,

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<v Speaker 2>to be great, to go out there play golf kind

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<v Speaker 2>of laissez Faire's another thing in major championship golf and

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<v Speaker 2>in big PGA Tour events, big live golf events, big

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<v Speaker 2>moments like that. You know, from the collar bones up,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be strong out there, and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be stronger than the strength he showed between the ropes

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday, playing on adrenaline and all the things going

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<v Speaker 2>on in his mind. That sixty six was outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, he is the he is the Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Hanks of golf, right, I mean, he's he's this character,

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<v Speaker 1>this person this personality that everybody loves, says, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>you've been around the game a long time. Your your

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<v Speaker 1>weekend week out with these players. I mean, you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some amazing runs. Obviously what Tiger Woods did, what the

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<v Speaker 1>greats of the game has done. But putting to perspective

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<v Speaker 1>the golf that we're seeing from from Scotty, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that because his personality is what it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's to me, the best thing that he's got going

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<v Speaker 1>for him is you know, I was talking to his agent,

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Smith. His mind is his superpower, right, his persona. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>his golf game is unbelievable, but I think the approach

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<v Speaker 1>that Scotty has to not only life, but to also

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<v Speaker 1>professional golf is the superpower that he's got. How significant

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the realm of great players and runs

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<v Speaker 1>that great players have been on. This run that Scotty's

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<v Speaker 1>been on for the last you know, two three years,

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<v Speaker 1>it's as good of a golf is that we've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. It's amazing what he's been doing. The

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<v Speaker 2>ball striking is outrageous, The consistency is outrageous. That round

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday at Valhalla was the first overpar around he

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<v Speaker 2>shot all year. I mean that that's a joke. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's really truly outrageous. Another top ten finished for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't have a chance to win it on Sunday, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's still a top ten finish. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Raymond Floyd. You know how in Live from the Masters

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<v Speaker 2>on the Golf Channel, we have all the guys come

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<v Speaker 2>in with the green jackets and Ben Crenshaw, Raymond Floyd,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Watson, Jack Nicholas. It's all really cool. Gary Player

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<v Speaker 2>did it for years, Arno Palmer did it for years.

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<v Speaker 2>All these guys come in, and Raymond was when he

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<v Speaker 2>was in there, I asked him, what are we seeing

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<v Speaker 2>here from Scotty Scheffler? Same question you just asked me?

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<v Speaker 2>And Raymond said, and I totally agree with them. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have I told Ramy, you have McElroy from eleven

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<v Speaker 2>to fourteen winning four majors. You have Speed from fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>to seventeen winning three major championships. You know, keepka on

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<v Speaker 2>that crazy run. Then he won another one last year

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<v Speaker 2>to make it five major championships. What are we seeing

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<v Speaker 2>from Scotty Scheffler? And Raymond said? Great players all get hot,

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<v Speaker 2>The question is can they remain hot through a sustained

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<v Speaker 2>period of time? So when I went over those names

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<v Speaker 2>that we just went through, McElroy, Speed Kepta, those crazy

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<v Speaker 2>great runs they went on, Raymond said, oh, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>all do that. But when we get into a separate

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<v Speaker 2>category like a Tiger or a Jack and those types

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<v Speaker 2>of players, you're talking about guys who are consistently great

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<v Speaker 2>beyond three years. So what Raymond said was, we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>pure greatness from Scotty, there's no question about that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>also seeing someone who's on a heater. There's no question

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<v Speaker 2>about that. The combination of the two will it sustain

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<v Speaker 2>itself after three years? That will put Scotty Laud in

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<v Speaker 2>a different category than just being another not I mean quotations,

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<v Speaker 2>another great player who's gotten hot. But there's no debate

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<v Speaker 2>he's the best player in the world right now. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no debate is the best ball striker. And if that

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<v Speaker 2>Potter cooperates, he's going to be there on Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 2>if it's his time to win another one, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's the best player in the world

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<v Speaker 2>right now by far. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Sansy's the thing that when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at his game, I mean just the way that he

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<v Speaker 1>approaches golf and the way that he kind of lives

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<v Speaker 1>his life. You know, he doesn't really get wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of the stuff that a lot of athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>but specifically golfers get wrapped up in. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad says the same thing, but she says the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that can he sustain this and can the heater

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<v Speaker 1>become What Rory did was Rory came out and he

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<v Speaker 1>was on a heater and then he just did it

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<v Speaker 1>for the next ten twelve years. Right. You can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Rory hasn't won a major in

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, but Rory has been one of, if not

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<v Speaker 1>the top three four dominant players of the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's been doing this for a decade. And every

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<v Speaker 1>major Rory is one of the favorites for the foreseeable future, Sansy,

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<v Speaker 1>every major Scotti Scheffler, regardless of where the golf course is,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what the setup is, he is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the favorite because he has so many of the

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<v Speaker 1>other things that you have to have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>great champion and a great player. You have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to handle the pressure. Like you said, everybody's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody gets on these runs, but to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>elite great you have to sustain it for longer than

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<v Speaker 1>just a two to three year period.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just think about the four major championships. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The beauty to me of the four major championships is

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<v Speaker 2>is they're different. They're like tennis, you know, they're the

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<v Speaker 2>four Grand Slams are different from each other. The four

0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.400
<v Speaker 2>major championships in golf are different. You can't find one

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't fit Scotty. I used to think this about Tiger,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, oh, this course fits him well? Really

0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.360
<v Speaker 2>which one doesn't? I mean, which one doesn't fit him well?

0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know, the Masters, obviously he's won it twice,

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<v Speaker 2>so clearly augusta National has warmed up in Scotty's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the PGA Championship again, he put himself right there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Open is the US opens at Pinehurst, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why he can't succeed there and then at

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Troon. There's no reason at an Open championship. The

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<v Speaker 2>way he strikes a golf ball. If it's windy there

0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and the bad weather comes in there, it doesn't matter

0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.400
<v Speaker 2>whether the weather's great or whether it's bad. He's the

0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.200
<v Speaker 2>best ball striker in the world. So if the weather's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take the ball striker when the weather's bad, and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who's mentally tough. Oh, by the way, Scotty's

0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.920
<v Speaker 2>mentally tough as well, so he's got one of those things. It's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not picking on Andy North winning two US

0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Opens or Lee Jansen winning two US Opens or hail

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<v Speaker 2>Or winning three US Opens. You know, love all those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all great, great players, but it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>they had like one avenue. You know, in these major championships.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about Rory, you talk about Scotty Schefford, these

0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.480
<v Speaker 2>guys could win anywhere. You know, these guys could win

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely anywhere. And look, we're gonna go to pine Ricks

0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.760
<v Speaker 2>next month, and as long as he's healthy and still there,

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<v Speaker 2>who's gonna be favored Scotty?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I mean, And the other thing is he's playing

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<v Speaker 1>this week in Colonial. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins there?

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<v Speaker 1>Then what memorial before that? Sure is? How wouldn't surprise

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<v Speaker 1>me if you won there? Because that's a big golf course.

0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You have to be a great ball striker. He could

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<v Speaker 1>conceivably go into Pinehurst off the back of two more wins.

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<v Speaker 2>No question about it. And that's the thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>love about watching Scotty play. Is Colonial this week, Okay,

0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm flying there tomorrow. Okay. Colonial this week is like

0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.760
<v Speaker 2>hilton Head, like why lie the Sony Open in Hawaii,

0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.080
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden you got this monster

0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.320
<v Speaker 2>ballpark which we're going to be seeing at the memorial

0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.920
<v Speaker 2>at Mirfield Village. And last week Valhalla was like Tory

0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Pines and hilton Head combined, real small greens but a

0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.800
<v Speaker 2>massive ballpark. And here he was once again, except for

0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.440
<v Speaker 2>that one day, like Brooks Kopka, you know, just one

0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.400
<v Speaker 2>day kind of took him out of the event. And

0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Scotty just didn't have a great day on Saturday. But

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<v Speaker 2>weird circumstances for him. But there's no way he's not

0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the favorite clot coming in. It's just it's just wild now,

0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:02.160
<v Speaker 2>different months, different conditions, different cour different time zones, different brass,

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<v Speaker 2>different agronomy, different players coming in. Hot Macelroy this week

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<v Speaker 2>was the man who won two in a row in

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans with Shane and then at Quel Hollows, Vander

0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.880
<v Speaker 2>came close and then he put it together. The one

0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.480
<v Speaker 2>constant in all of this is Scotty Scotty is just

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<v Speaker 2>there every single week. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>play without limits. You mentioned Xander Schaffle getting his first

0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>major championships. Within the fraternity of professional golf, both on

0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the playing side and the media side and the caddyside, everybody,

0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.520
<v Speaker 1>there are popular wins and then there are popular wins.

0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Zander winning a major will be a very, very popular win,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are also wins on tour when players get

0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:04.000
<v Speaker 1>their first major to where everybody in the sport says,

0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you could see it coming. He's always had the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The knock against Xander is, you know, eight wins. I

0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.960
<v Speaker 1>mean he's what fifty million now, I mean, you know,

0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>turn pro, what's sixteen seventeen, So the career is so legit, right,

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>But the knock against Xander was when he did he

0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.520
<v Speaker 1>should have won more. Yeah, I mean you can always

0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.639
<v Speaker 1>say that about a lot of guys, but Xander seemed

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.639
<v Speaker 1>to always put himself in position a lot, and he

0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:39.280
<v Speaker 1>put himself in position a lot in majors. And he

0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.880
<v Speaker 1>has every part. There isn't a part of the game

0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have. And you know, he's made some

0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:48.080
<v Speaker 1>changes to his golf swing with Chris Como. But for

0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a small guy, he hits it. Miles Xander is as

0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.760
<v Speaker 1>legit as it gets, and I think everybody is surprised

0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that it has taken him this long to win a major.

0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Thus just because that's how good everybody thinks he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we know that that golf is your life. It's

0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 2>been your life, you know, literally your entire life. But

0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I know you're also a sports fan and you also

0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:17.680
<v Speaker 2>appreciate other athletes in other sports. You know, it took

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan's seven years to win his first NBA title.

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 2>He had to get through the you know, the Pistons.

0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.879
<v Speaker 2>They had to get through the Celtics before that with

0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:31.399
<v Speaker 2>the Pistons. Teams do this all the time in teams competition.

0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 2>They can't quite get there and then they break through. Well,

0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.119
<v Speaker 2>there's no reason to think that golf is any different.

0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, Xander had to build up some scar tissue,

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.720
<v Speaker 2>he gave a couple away, didn't play great a couple

0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of times when he was in that spot, but overall,

0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.280
<v Speaker 2>he put himself in a position to win. Just wasn't

0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.000
<v Speaker 2>his time, and you ran into a brick wall. It

0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.920
<v Speaker 2>happened for him on Sunday, and I'm so happy for him.

0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.360
<v Speaker 2>It's an incredibly popular to win AI amongst his peers.

0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.480
<v Speaker 2>He's a great guy, not just a great player. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a competitor. How about his confidence, Claude, I mean, you're

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.680
<v Speaker 2>in the instruction business, okay, you know which I've always

0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.399
<v Speaker 2>joked with your dad about this. You guys are so

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.560
<v Speaker 2>brilliant at the technical side of the game, but also

0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 2>have an understanding without a degree in this, that you're

0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.479
<v Speaker 2>also part sports psychologist when you're also coaching in golf.

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And for him to switch away from his dad, okay,

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.560
<v Speaker 2>his lifelong coach is his dad, all right, And he

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.240
<v Speaker 2>goes to Chris Cuomo, and he has the changes, and

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 2>he's not playing not to lose, Claude, He's playing to win,

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:41.119
<v Speaker 2>and he's stayed aggressive. The second shot on eighteen, when

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.560
<v Speaker 2>you had to dig into that bunker, get real low

0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.359
<v Speaker 2>below the ball, do you lay up there? Do you

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.000
<v Speaker 2>play conservatively there? Or do you say no? No? This

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.359
<v Speaker 2>has been my game plan all week. I know I

0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 2>need a four at this par five to get a win.

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Let's keep playing the way I've always played. And you

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<v Speaker 2>put all that together and I'm just so happy for him.

0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of Xander for hanging in there. You know,

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 2>in this short period of time. People think he's been

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 2>out there for one hundred years and he hasn't gotten

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.439
<v Speaker 2>that first major championship win. Like you said, his body

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.640
<v Speaker 2>of work in his time frame since turning pro claude

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:19.640
<v Speaker 2>is beyond legit. Man. He is a filthy, filthy golfer man.

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 2>He is a great, great player, and I think there's

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.439
<v Speaker 2>more to come. I'm not a huge fan club. You know,

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.480
<v Speaker 2>you and I have talked about this before. You know,

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it happens all the time. Guy busts through and wins

0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.880
<v Speaker 2>his first major, and now everybody is saying, oh, now

0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the floodgates are going to open. I don't necessarily believe

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in that in this particular case because of how he's

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.679
<v Speaker 2>gotten to this point, building the step by step to

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.879
<v Speaker 2>get to a major championship victory. To me, Xander's not

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.639
<v Speaker 2>going away anytime soon. I fully expect him to be

0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 2>in contention at plenty of majors over the next decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the other thing that that was impressive about

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>last week is he had he had a chance to

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:03.879
<v Speaker 1>wink before at Wells Fargo and he got smoked by

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Rory McRoy. Okay, Roy McRoy has this extra gear that

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.679
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of players have. But he's in the

0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>final group with Rory. Rory turns on the gas, wins

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:20.200
<v Speaker 1>going away at Quail Hollow the week before. It would

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 1>be easy to be affected by that, to say okay,

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.199
<v Speaker 1>because that could go the other way, right, that's another

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>chance that Xander's got to win a big tournament against

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.879
<v Speaker 1>a quality field, against one of the best players in

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the world. And you know, Roy what shot eight nine

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.439
<v Speaker 1>under on Sunday at Quail and Sander what shut couple

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>under and didn't get it done. So you wouldn't be

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 1>surprised if he comes in with a little bit of

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 1>scar tissue. But sixty two, sixty eight, sixty a, sixty

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 1>five to get to twenty one under on a Sunday

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that Listen, there are a lot of people Sandy talking

0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>about the golf course being too easy. It was like

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.639
<v Speaker 1>EPC all of it. The golf course is the golf course, right,

0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and the players play the golf course that they're told

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to show up to. I thought we saw some big

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>time drama on Sunday for a major that everybody that

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. I've heard articles social saying, oh,

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>it needed to be harder, it needed to be harder

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty one under. I thought it was really good.

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 2>But I would like to see a major championship play

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 2>more difficult. There's no question about that. I think everybody

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>would agree with that. However, there's no way to discount

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.480
<v Speaker 2>someone's victory. It rained two inches the week prior, It

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 2>rained half an inch on Monday. It rained a little

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>bit more on Thursday night and Friday morning. The golf

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 2>course is soft. There's nothing you can do about it.

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 2>If it was firm and fast, it may not have

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.879
<v Speaker 2>been as entertaining. Who knows. It was incredibly entertaining. And

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 2>by the way, it was like that for everybody in

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the field. All right, So was it a little bit

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 2>on the easier side, Sure, okay, the scores were low,

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 2>but Xander was the best player all week. And by

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the way, let's not discount the wire to wire factory, Claude.

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>You know this, What people see in golfers and what

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>we see in athletes is their talent, their skill. What

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>we can't measure is how mentally tough they are because

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 2>we can't get inside their brain. Well, you try sleeping

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 2>on a lead. I've talked to a million golfers who

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 2>who have told me, can't sleep when you have a

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>lead next day, can't sleep when you have a lead.

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>God forbid. You have the lead after fifty four holes,

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and you're leading with only eighteen to play, and you

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>know what's in front of you. This guy went wired

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 2>to wire, all right. That is so difficult to do

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 2>at a regular PGA Tour event. It's so difficult to

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.199
<v Speaker 2>do at a Players Championship. It's exponentially more difficult to

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 2>do at a major championship. I just think the world

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of Xander as a person and as a golfer, and

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it all came together for him last week,

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm really looking forward to seeing how he moves forward,

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 2>how this propels him moving forward, will keep him motivated

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 2>to win more? Will he rest on his laurels? I'll

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 2>take the former, not the latter. I think Xander is

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 2>here to stay for a long time. He is a great,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>great player.

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I also thought it was a statement the

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>way he played in the final group, playing with a

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>two time major champion in Colin Morrikawa. You'll call him,

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, won two majors early in his career, and

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it's made looking made winning majors look really really easy.

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>The switch from Stefan, who is a larger than life character,

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like one of the great characters in professional golf. We're

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to know Sanders dad Stefan. You hear him

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>before you see him. He's one of my favorite people.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, it is tough when your father

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>has been kind of your coach and your mentor and

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>helped you get to this platform. It's not an easy

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>decision that Xander took to reach out to Chris Como

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, let me see if what you think

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and let me see if there's some gains that I

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>could make, because you know, there's a comfort level when

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you work with your dad and he's kind of been

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>your guy. I take my hat off to to Xanders,

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>say listen, man, I'm gonna try and see if there's

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>something I'm missing or something that maybe I don't know.

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's been huge and for Chris Como,

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, two major champions now for Chris as

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a coach and Bryson de Champeau and Xander, who couldn't

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>be any more different, but an interesting, interesting choice from

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Xander to make that change.

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting for sure. I'll tell you what, Claude. I

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 2>was saying this last week to some people. I wasn't

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>working last week because a CBS ESPN event and I

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 2>don't do life in the PGA, so I was just watching.

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 2>But I was texting with some friends of mine. I

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, you ought to you ought to

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 2>bring up how about the credit Stefan deserves. Oh yeah,

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>for your son, who's your your your your whole world

0:25:56.200 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 2>professionally and personally, like you said, great guy, credible personality, huge,

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>larger than life kind of person. But for him, Claude,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a parent, you know, for you to

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 2>receive that news from your son and then take it

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 2>the correct way and not ruin your a relationship with

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 2>your son, which is the most important thing, but be

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the professional side as well of what Xander's trying to do.

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>To me, it speaks volumes as to what people thought

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of Stefan before this and now after. He is not

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>some guy who's just in Xander's face and in his way.

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 2>That is a tremendous job. In my opinion, I see

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>the smile on your face, you know, not a part coach,

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 2>part parent. I thought Stefan handled that beautifully, and I

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 2>thought Xander handled his father beautifully in that position. You

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>can imagine how difficult that must have been for Xander.

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not making them analogous, but we all see

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Mike Thomas and Justin Thomas all day, every day at

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 2>PGA tour events, and people ask me all the time

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 2>about that relationship, and Mike gets asked about it all

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the time. Justin gets asked about all the time. It

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>can't be easy when you're with your dad twenty four

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to seven like that, in a working environment, and when

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>things don't go well. As we all know, Claude, it's

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 2>never the player's fault. It's the cadi's fault. It's the

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>coach's fault. He's fault. It can't be the player's fault.

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>And I say that facetiously, but you know what I mean.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>So when you have to make a switch, or you

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like you need to make a switch, it's one

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>thing to call Claude Harmon, it's another thing to call

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>your dad. I mean, my god, that's not easy. They're

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 2>all not easy. So I give them all credit for that.

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I give Chris a ton of credit for handling that

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>situation well and again for Xander to mix up his

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>action because he needed to make an improvement to get

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>this next step and then to have it all come

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 2>together and come to fruition. Man, I give all the

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>parties there a lot of credit. It's just it's just

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>just a lot there. And by the way, back to

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the Justin Thomas and Mike Thomas thing. You know, Justin

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and Mike have both told me and you know this

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 2>for years, they have found that correct balance of father

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 2>and coach, coach and father pupil and father pupil and coach.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Because Justin is the boss, he's the player, and it's

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>got to be very strange to have that. And I

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>give all the credit in the world a step on

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and Xander for handling that beautifully.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Stefan, you know, was a very good athlete

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>when he was younger, and and you know, I think

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>he took a lot of the things that that kind

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>of propelled him in his early career. It's trying to

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>be an athlete as well. Sander goes to number two

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in the world. If if you still believe in the

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Official World Golf rankings. Can he be the best player

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Does he have that type of game? Santy?

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a great question, Claude, Uh do Look. I think

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that Rory, Scottie and if John ever got it together again,

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it Brooks is a completely healthy and

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:22.239
<v Speaker 2>motivated at all times. I think that those five, you know,

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>justin Thomas has kind of fallen off just a touch,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>but obviously the game is still there. I'm sure. I'm

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>sure he'll get it back. Kyler Marakalis seems like he's

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>gotten it back, you know, a little bit to where

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>it was when he was in his heyday. But as

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 2>far as to me, McElroy, Scheffler, Xander a healthy and motivated,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>productive John Ram I think those are the four best

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>players in the world that I don't see any reason

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>why Xander can't be number one in the official World

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Golf ranking if you still believe in that, but also

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>be right there with those guys every week as far

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>as being favored and then showing up on Sundays on

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>leaderboards at major championships. For sure, Xanders got the game.

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got all you need. And now that

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he has this win, perhaps that little shot of confidence

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that lets him know that, Yeah, there's a big difference

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>between thinking you can do it and knowing you can

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>do it. Well, up until Sunday, he always thought he

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>could do it, and now he knows he can do it.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>So let's see where it goes from here. But I

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's any reason. Maybe week in week out,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I would think that Rory and Scott he might be

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>more consistently better, maybe right now, but Xander's right there

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 2>with him. Man Sanders, good man, he is so good. Club.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about someone who's really kind of I will

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>say this, I think he's transformed his game. Bryson d Chambeau.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Bryson always had a tremendous amount of talent,

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, he went down the route where

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>he looked like he ate Bryson and during COVID bulked

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>up and all of a sudden showed up looking like

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the incredible Hulk and was trying to drive greens and

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>wins a major at Wingfoot and then makes all the

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>comments that he makes about Augusta where par Is in

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifties and all of this stuff. But I've been

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of my guys went to live so

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I've watched Bryson play a lot of golf over the

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>last two and a half years, and sansy he has

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>figured out how to play golf. He is still as

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>quirky and unique and testing equipment and always pushing the boundaries.

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>But there is a different Bryson in twenty twenty four

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>than there was in twenty twenty. He's evolved as a person,

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>but he's also evolved as a golfer. And I thought,

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, four rounds in the sixties, sixty eight, sixty five,

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven, sixty four on Sunday, I mean the eight

0:31:56.480 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>iron he hits from two ten to twenty and stiffs it.

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>There's nobody in the world that Bryson is one of

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>those players that can do things that really no one

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>else in the game can do. How how important do

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you think last week was for Bryson from a game standpoint,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>but also the fans seem to embrace him in a

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>way that they never did before, and he seemed to

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>embrace the fans in a way that he hasn't embraced

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>them before. I just think it's been cool to watch

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>this kind of transformation into Bryson kind of where he

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>was to kind of I think this is Bryson two

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>point zero.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 2>You're familiar, Claude with the what's going on with the

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>TV ratings this year on the PGA Tour and how

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>down the ratings have been. The ratings were up ten

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>percent on Sunday, and that's a direct result and no

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>offense to Xander, who I love. It's a direct result

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of Bryson. I think that the fan favorite part of

0:32:59.960 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>it is fascinating because Live took away some of the

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>great villains in the sport, and I mean that in

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a lovable way, you know, like a lovable villain in

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>sports is necessary. And to me, what I saw last week,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>more than anything Claude, is just how much golf fans

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>in America miss seeing Bryson to Shamba play. He is

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 2>a showman. He is a bizarre cat who thinks his

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>own way, plays his own way, does things his own way.

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>It's as if Frank Sinatra's song My Way was written

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>just for Bryson to Shambo and the golf fans. Last

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>week on TV and in person, you could just sense

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>how much he has been missed because he's out there

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>hooting and holler and he's running around, He's doing the

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. He's Bryson, the whole deal, and he's muscling

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>everything and is just fascinating to watch. He's the most

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>fascinating guy in the sport to watch when he's playing well.

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any debate on that. You can

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>like him or dislike him. You can go through the

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 2>litany of ten, twelve, fifteen best players in the world,

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>you can't find anybody more fascinating to watch than that

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>guy at the highest level. So he's missed and his

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>game is so good, Claud and he's just he's done

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it different ways as far as the science of it all,

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 2>but he also has evolved into the player he is

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>today through his own convictions, his own way of doing it.

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot to do with the people around

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>him and Chris and everything. But you know, good for

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Bryson for you know, getting it together and getting it

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 2>back on track. And I think he's better now than

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 2>he's ever been. And I was not surprised to see

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>him play well last week. It won't surprise me to

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 2>see him play well at Pinehurst or Royal truon well.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>He's just a tremendous player and my god is he

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>a breadth of fresh air to a sport that really

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>needed it in twenty twenty four.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>What do you think last week showed the fans that

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>they maybe didn't see before, or maybe Bryson wasn't able

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to show them because he's always had legit game, right,

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't you can't fake it. I mean

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>usam you know, wins early major champion. He's been on

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>President's Cup and the Ryder Cup team, but last week

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>seemed like it was different. Is that more Bryson changing

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>or do you think the fans are changing.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of both. I think that, you know,

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>one thing that people don't realize. I'm fifty five years old, Claude.

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I think you're a little younger than I, but.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty five. Babies, Sammy Hagar.

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 2>We're the same age. There you go. So I think

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 2>people really forget that this guys are kids, man, their kids,

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and they're growing up Unlike you and me, they're growing

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>up in front of the world's eye, so everything they

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 2>do and say is scrutinized from the time they were

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 2>like nineteen twenty twenty one. So here's Bryson Wotson in

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>his late twenties. Is he around thirty maybe, you know,

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>let's say around there. He's just getting going, claud I mean,

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you know he can be. He's young enough to be

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>one of our kids, for God's sake, So he's just

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of evolving as a human being and not just

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a golfer. That's the first thing I think. The second

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>thing is, I think the guys who I've spoken to

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.919
<v Speaker 2>and you know this way better than me, the guys

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>i've spoken to with live the one thing they say

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>they miss more than anything is the juice, you know,

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 2>they miss, you know, being against the best in these

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 2>monster crowds. I know there's a big crowd at an

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Adelaide down in Australia, but for the most part, they're

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>not playing in front of these monster crowds. And I

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 2>think people forget to use this word earlier with Bryson.

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 2>People forget these guys aren't just professional golfers, their performers, Claude.

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, during COVID we heard a lot of them

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 2>say it was really weird. It was so quiet out there.

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>They weren't playing in front of fans, They didn't have

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>any reaction, they didn't have the adrenaline going and I

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 2>think Bryson loves the show, isn't afraid to show off

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, isn't afraid to show his enjoyments on

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the golf course and get people fired up and do

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>things a little differently than most professional golfers. And I

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>think that over time, he's maturing as a human being

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and he's also maturing as a golfer. And I think

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.479
<v Speaker 2>they all came together last week and I think that Live,

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 2>more than anything, and this PGA Tour Live ridiculous spat

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>back and forth has made the major championships, Claude bigger.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 2>They've made them better, They've made them bigger. And that's

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>why the major championships are not getting involved in misfight.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>They keep inviting Joake Neman too, Augusta Taylor, Goots and

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>a couple of guys at the PGA. It's going to

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 2>continue because the majors are small. They know Claude that

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 2>the fight between the PGA Tour and Live is only

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>elevating their events because their events are the only ones

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>that Bryson and Brooks and Dustin and Cam and all

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 2>these guys get to play against the guys on the

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour. And it was a win win for everybody

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>last week, but Bryson was the show. Alexander stole the

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 2>show by winning, but Bryson was the show over the

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>course of the weekend, especially on Sunday. Man it was

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>just fun to watch them out to compete again. It

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>was cool.

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0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, the majors. I mean because to me, in

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>this whole kind of PGA Tour live thing that we've

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>all been involved with over the last couple of years,

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the majors to me hold all the cards, but they're

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the ones that can say, listen, you guys fight this out.

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought that Seth Wall and the PGA, you know,

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>inviting some of the live guys was a good thing. Listen.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I think at this point, if I keep saying this,

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:47.359
<v Speaker 1>if you're anti live and PROPGA Tour at this point

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, with all the evidence and all

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the information that's out there, you're doing that strictly for

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>your own reasons. Right. If you're ANTIPGA Tour and you

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>fiercely live and you're you're one of those, well you're

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>doing that for your own reasons as well. Right the game,

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we are seeing that the narrative that going

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to live means you can't play anymore. I think this

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>is the second year in a row where we've had

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a live player almost win a major championship and come

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>in second. Happened at the Masters last year when Brooks

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 1>finished second to John Rahm. He went on to win

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 1>a major, you know, a couple weeks later. But again,

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>there is still a narrative out there that if you

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>go to live it only prepares you for three round

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>tournaments and stuff. I think we are seeing that golf

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is golf and the other thing. Sandy and I said

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>this to my dad last week when I had him

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>on the pot as well. There is an eye test

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 1>in golf that those of us and this isn't an

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>arrogance thing that I'm saying that we go, but those

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>of us that are around these players day in day out,

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>week in week out, year after year, as much time

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>as we spend around the professional game, there is an

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>eye test. You know who the good players are, regardless

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>of where they play, right, And I think now more

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>than ever is there is going to be an eye

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>test because I don't see I mean, I don't see

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>anything happening anytime soon. I mean I think next year

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>at this time, we're still going to be talking about

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 1>whether there's a merger or not. But I do think

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that when you see players and you look at their

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>results and you look at whether they've been winning, how

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>they've been playing, there, to me, there's an eye test.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>And Bryson D. Chambeau, regardless of whether he's playing live

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>or not, Bryston D. Shambau is one of the best

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>players of the world.

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't know where he was in

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the official World Golf ranking coming into the PGA, and.

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>It's thirty five now, but I think he was in

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>the hundreds before, so he jumped I mean for thirty five.

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 2>First of all, he's not the thirty fifth best player

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in the world. Second of all, he's not in the hundreds. Okay,

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 2>So the Official World Golf Ranking is clearly a little

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>bit skewed because of what's going on with LIB. But

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to me, the most important factor right now, if I

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>was a live player, is the clock is ticket. The

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 2>clock is ticking for them, because if the Official World

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Golf Ranking is not going to recognize live and it

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>continues to keep the players out of the major championships.

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>For the guys like Bryson, who won the US Open

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, next year is his last year of

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>those five years twenty one, two, three, four five, So

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>he's going to have to have these top four finishes

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 2>to get back into these majors after next year's four

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>major championships, as long as he doesn't win one of

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 2>the next two or winning one in twenty twenty five.

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So to me, you know, I mean, I don't see

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 2>it coming together anytime soon either. I don't know, I

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>have no intel on that, but I think both sides

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>are kind of you know, thinking one thing and thinking

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 2>another thing on one side and vice versa. And I

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>think they're pretty far apart as far as coming together,

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 2>but as far as the guys on Live and the

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.879
<v Speaker 2>guys on the tour coming together and playing in these

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 2>big events, the majors, Man Claude, you said it. The

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>majors could end this that they wanted to. They sure

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>majors wanted to end it. They could just say hey, sorry,

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 2>not coming. But they're not doing that because it benefits

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>that And I don't blame them whatsoever. I think this

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>is the PGA Tour and lives fight. I do not

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 2>think the major championships are going to get involved anytime soon.

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 2>To put this aside.

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Fred Ridley, who's the chairman at Augusta Nashvill and his

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>press conference, said, this is an invitational. There always a

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>criteria to be you know that they have for players

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>top fifty in the world and stuff like that. But

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the Masters has always been an invite. I mean every

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>year the players that get invited, you know, they get

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>their they post on social they get an invite, they

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>get you are invited to the tournament. So there isn't

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>anything stopping the major championships from saying, listen, we're going

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to have a criteria for our tournaments. There's four of

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>them a year, and these are the people that we

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.959
<v Speaker 1>are going to allow to play.

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I will say, Claude, I do think if it goes

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:29.439
<v Speaker 2>beyond next year, Okay, if it does go beyond next year,

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I can see one of the majors. I don't know

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 2>which one, but I could see one of the majors going, Okay,

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 2>clearly they're not going to settle this argument, so we

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>are going to have to do something to ensure that

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>our field is going to be the best it can be.

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 2>So maybe I could see one of the majors going

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 2>two or four of the top live earners who are

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>not already exempt for our events will be exact. I

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>could see that happening. I don't think it's going to

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>happen in the next two major championships, but it could

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>happen in twenty twenty five. And I could definitely see

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 2>it happening in twenty twenty six if this is still

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 2>going on, as you said, a year from now, because

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to, you know, look, the PGA Championship,

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Caluse understands you don't have Bryson there last week. Well,

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are we looking at here? You know,

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Xander's a great player, but you need to

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 2>have a tet, do tet. You can't have, you know,

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>just one person doing it. So, like I said, a

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>villain in sports can sometimes be a great, great thing.

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean that in a bad way. I

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>mean a lovable villain. I used to love watching VJ

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Sing play. He was a villain to Tiger. Duvall with

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the glasses was a little bit of a villain. You know.

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Nicolson was out there doing his thing, Ernie Elis was

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 2>doing his thing. Tiger's doing his thing. But you know,

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 2>you get a little Patrick Reid in the mix in

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 2>the late twenty tens, you know, riling people up. That's

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 2>a good thing for sports. You know, you can't have

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Rory mister nice guy at Hazel team and not have

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Reed on the other side, you know, pretending to

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 2>be Captain America. You can't just be one side. That's

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 2>how sports works. So it was great to see bryceon

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 2>And the PGA of America understands that Claude. So does

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>the RNA, so does Augusta National, and so does the USGA.

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 2>You take away these guys after one or two more

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 2>years and they're literally no longer in the major championships.

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 2>That's bad for the majors. Then they'll start getting more involved.

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Rory McElroy finished twelfth Big News last week,

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, off the golf course in his personal life,

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's ten years now since he won his last major.

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>In the last major he won was at Valhalla, a

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 1>dominant performance at Quail Hollow the week before. I mean,

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.479
<v Speaker 1>there's just no way he can't win another major. There's

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>just no way. The guy is just I mean what

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>he did at Quail Hollow. You know this. There are

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>players and then there are players that do what Rory

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>did at Quaija. I said to him on the range,

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.479
<v Speaker 1>there isn't anybody in the game currently that can put

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the foot on the gas and just sprint away like

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>he can't. He did that at Quail Hollow. He's in

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the final group with Xander and just puts the hammer

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>down and wins, going away making it look easy. He

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>goes to Valhalla where he's won a major before. It's

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the last majors one has. You know, it's been ten years.

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>The stance where We talked about this when you were

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>on We had you on the podcast. Last year, Rory

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>took the mantle and took the role as being the

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tours spokesperson. Now we're seeing a little bit more

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 1>of the diplomatic Rory. He's got some issues obviously off

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the golf course, but there's still two majors left. What

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>does he have to do, Sanzy to win one? Because

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't design a golfer better than Rory McElroy's, like you,

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>honestly you couldn't. I mean think about what you what

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>would you design better? I mean other than the fact

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that maybe he needs to be six two or six three,

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the only thing that you would design differently.

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean the only thing this is year realm, not mine.

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.760
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I think he truly needs is sharpen.

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 2>The wedge play, the short iron play, the proximity to

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 2>the hole is he giving himself? You know, when these

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 2>guys are eight to twelve feet versus twelve to eighteen feet,

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the difference percentage wise, you know, you could go down

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>that rabbit hole. But my gosh, when when Rory is

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>playing well, I still think he's the best player, and

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that includes Scotty Shaffler, But he hasn't done it in

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 2>ten years at a major. He has done it plenty

0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>of times since then at non majors, and that of

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.399
<v Speaker 2>players as well. He's also performed well in the Ryder Cup.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 2>In a pressure ized situation like that, it's impossible to

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.919
<v Speaker 2>think that he's not going to win another major. Impossible.

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Quail Hollo, by the way, host of PGA next year,

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 2>in case you're wondering, he's won there four times. So

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, man, is there something missing

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 2>from his game? No? Is there something missing from the

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 2>way he approaches it. No, he just hasn't gotten there,

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 2>not yet, not in the last ten years. But you

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 2>have to think it's gonna happen. So to me, you

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>got to get off to a good start, because he's

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 2>gotten off to shaky starts. But he got off to

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 2>a good start, a decent start on Thursday at the PG.

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I think Xander just kind of ran over the rest

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>of that field with that sixty two. But you know,

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 2>there's no reason at all, Claude that he doesn't perform

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 2>well at Pinehurst. He's already wonted an Open championship, that

0:49:58.280 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 2>would have been the one. You would think that he

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>would of one. He's probably the most Americanized European player

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 2>who's ever played on the PGA Tour, growing up in

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the Tiger era. He hits the ball, high, hits the

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 2>ball far, hits with lands and softs. It's not like

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 2>he's running it out there, you know, like traditional European

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 2>players before him. So there's nothing holding him back, Lad,

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing. How could he not win another major championship.

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.240
<v Speaker 2>It's absurd to think that he could not. I still

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 2>think when he's playing his best, he is the best.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.720
<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you that he's the only person

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>in golf today. Although Scotty won by five at the Masters,

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 2>one by five at the Players, so he can. He

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 2>can sprint out there like secretary and leave everybody in

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 2>their dust as well. So I put Scotty in that

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.399
<v Speaker 2>category with Rory as far as being able to run

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.399
<v Speaker 2>away and hide. But those are the only two right now.

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>In fourteen, when he won his fourth major at Valhalla

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, how many did you think he'd have

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 1>by twenty twenty four?

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, I thought no fordigious first, I thought for

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Or he was going to get to ten. I did

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 2>not think he was gonna get to eighteen. I didn't

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>think he was going to get to Tigers fourteen at

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>the time he won his fifteenth and twenty nineteen. But

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to crap up on double

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 2>digits because at the time I thought, Okay, he's gonna

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 2>win a Masters, and he's going to clip off a

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 2>PGA at a US Open and Open somewhere, and then

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden he's gonna end up with eight

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 2>nine or ten. But I also thought, and I don't

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 2>know what you thought. Maybe you and I talked about

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 2>this after he won a Valhalla in twenty fourteen. That

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 2>was his second PGA, so he had won the twenty

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>fourteen Open, okay, And after he won the Open in

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, he then needed the Masters to win the

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>career Grand Slam. To me, that's the most difficult of

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the four. Only Gene Sarah's in in thirty five did

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 2>it had no offense to the Squire. We loved the Squire,

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:56.879
<v Speaker 2>but the Masters wasn't quite the Masters in nineteen thirty five.

0:51:57.000 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 2>So as it's gotten farther and farther away away from him,

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it's gotten more and more difficult for him at Augusta,

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and I thought at the time, I'm going to give

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 2>him five chances to win the Masters, and it's well

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>beyond five. So you know, I hope I'm wrong, and

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I hope he wins it, and I hope he becomes

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the sixth player to win the career Grand Slam Claude.

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.839
<v Speaker 2>But it's impossible to me to think that he hasn't

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 2>won a PGA or a US opener and opened since then,

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 2>the open at St. Andrew's, I mean, you know PGA's

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>US Opens. I mean, come on, man, how does he

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:33.720
<v Speaker 2>not have more than four majors. It's just incredible. And

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 2>if he does win one, you know, he might just

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 2>walk off and say see it. But if he wins

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 2>another one, but I hope he keeps going because it's

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 2>just impossible to me to think that he has not

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 2>won at least a fifth, sixth or seventh major by now.

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Victor hovlin Vic gave us a little insight. Vic said

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't even gonna play, thinking about not even playing

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>last week and git on the back nine, I mean

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>toe for toe with Xander with Bryson. Vix joined the

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Floridian where I'm a member out. I've watched Vic over

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the last offseason. You know, coach, different coaches, trying different stuff.

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Said he wasn't playing good. He was working with Joe Mayo.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>He rinses Joe Mao. He goes to Grant Waite, rinses

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Grant wait goes back to Dana Dalkquist, rinses Daarkuist. And

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>then Monday, Tuesday, Wait, Victim his his caddy, Shaye Knight.

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You know Shay very well. I saw Shay on Wednesday.

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Yo, where's your boy. He's like, oh,

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>he's not getting it till tonight. He's in Vegas. So

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>he flies out, works with Joe Mayo again and then

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.439
<v Speaker 1>lights it up. I mean just lights it up. Three

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>sixty six is in a sixty eight and had a

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:54.959
<v Speaker 1>putt on the last hole to to get to twenty under.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that Victor Hoblin. I might text him at

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 2>after we're done two eight one seven. Oh wait, I

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 2>don't want to give out your number here on the podcast.

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 2>But he needs to call Claude Harmon and he needs

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to needs to get Claude Harmon involved. And then all

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden he'll get.

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 1>To the face just to quit. He needs to quit

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>messing around with his golf swing. I said that to

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 1>his caddy. I said, listen, mate, and I'm jokingly I

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>said it. I said, listen, we've we've watched this, right.

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.439
<v Speaker 1>The guy won the FedEx Cup in October and now

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>he's thinking in May of not even playing. And this

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 1>game sansy in an effort and we have seen this,

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in an effort to try and get better, in an

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:42.399
<v Speaker 1>effort to try and get to the next level and

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>do the right thing. You can fuck it up and

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 1>go backwards, and sometimes it cannot be repairable because you've

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>lost what you had. And I think Vic at the

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 1>end of last year, I thought he was the best

0:54:58.320 --> 0:54:59.959
<v Speaker 1>player in the world. I didn't think, you know, Speci

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:03.320
<v Speaker 1>after the Writer Cup. I couldn't. There wasn't anybody playing

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>better golf than him to win the FedEx the way

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>he played in the Writer Cup. And it's a delicate

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:13.279
<v Speaker 1>balance of if you're going to come in and you know,

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>if you win a Super Bowl and you're going to

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>fire every coach and change schemes and go from a

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 1>running team to a pack. I mean, it can go

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>south on you if if you don't, And I hope

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 1>that Vic we're seeing that this is now the resurgence

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of him going Okay, let me go back to what

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I was doing that helped me get to the level

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that I was at and maybe not mess around with

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:36.919
<v Speaker 1>it so much.

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:41.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that Xander switching coaches and messing around

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:43.680
<v Speaker 2>with his swing and then winning the PG is not

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 2>going to help that argument. I agree with that, but

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a copycat league. You know, players look

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 2>at other players and go, let me try that, you know,

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:54.360
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. And for Victor, I think Victor's

0:55:54.440 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 2>mind needs to keep spinning and needs to keep moving forward.

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, it takes a certain personality to be Adam

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Scott and never change your golf swing, not that you'd

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>ever need to because it's so aesthetically beautiful, but he's

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 2>never changed it. You know, Tiger swing was seemingly perfect

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden he changed it, you know,

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 2>and change it multiple times. So you know, Victor's just

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 2>he has one of those personalities. I love Victor, I

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 2>love being around him. He's a terrific kid. He's got

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 2>so much game. I was so happy to see him

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>playing well. I was hoping he was going to make

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that putt because it was going to be a playoff.

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's make it a three way playoff, not a two

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 2>way playoff. But I don't know. It's I think Victor

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 2>has the opportunity to be a top five player consistently

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 2>over the course of the next fifteen years. But he

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 2>might need to pick a side. He might need to

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 2>pick what side he wants to take. And it's it's

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.279
<v Speaker 2>it's not easy to be that great and to have

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 2>the personality that says, okay, got to keep improving, got

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 2>to keep doing this, got to keep doing this. I'll

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.919
<v Speaker 2>tell you what he has done. I mean, first of all,

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 2>you've been around him. He's a wonderful guy. I love him.

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what's amazing. How about the improvement he's

0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:06.320
<v Speaker 2>made with his chipping and pitching.

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I mean he did with Joe Mayo. I

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>mean he's he was a fifteen handicapper. I mean he was.

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 2>He was bad when Dustin Johnson had trouble with his

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 2>chipping and pitching, and he improved it to the point

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 2>where all of a sudden, You're like, man, these guys

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 2>work so hard on their game. I understand the fluidity

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:29.200
<v Speaker 2>of it and wanting to keep improving. I don't understand.

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I've asked Tiger this, I've asked every player this. Why

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 2>do you want to keep changing everything so much? Why

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 2>not just tweak here and there? You know, It's not

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.880
<v Speaker 2>as if a shooter in the NBA, a guy who's

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, has a jump shot in the NBA, is

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 2>going to completely change his stroke just because he has

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 2>two bad games. The NFL. You don't change your throwing

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 2>motion just because you throw a couple of picks a

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 2>couple of games in a row, so the full fledge changes.

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand the tweaking. Totally understand that Victor's a great,

0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 2>great player. It was awesome to see him play well again,

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully that puts him in the headspace moving forward

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 2>that's going to allow him to just continue to be

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 2>a great player. I feel like sometimes he gets in

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 2>his own way. I don't know that for a fact,

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 2>you would maybe more than me, But sometimes guys like him,

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, with that personality, they get in their own way.

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 2>They're just so great, there's such geniuses of what they do.

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 2>They feel like they have to keep improving and sometimes

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:31.040
<v Speaker 2>they get in their own way.

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Lastly, Sansy, it's tough to watch tw man. It's tough

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to watch Tiger and every time he plays it's the

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 1>same thing. He shot sixty two in the practice round

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and lit it up in the practice round and stuff.

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean, we're still going to see Tiger

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 1>hit great shots. We're still going to see because he's

0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>still a great player. But I just don't know if

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see Tiger play great if he can't

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>play more. I mean he I mean, he said that

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>in his press conference on Sunday or on Friday when

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>he missed a cut. He needs, he needs to play more,

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but he can't play more because of the body. And

0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it is you know this. When he is on the range,

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you feel it. When he walks onto the range, you

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>feel it. There is an energy. When he is on

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>property at a tournament, it's a different feel. When he's

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 1>getting ready to tee off, it's a different feel. The

0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 1>morning wave. If Tiger's in the morning wave on Thursday Friday,

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's different. If he's in the afternoon wave, it's different.

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 1>You guys televise it differently. When he's going to be

0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>playing but it is. I can't imagine. You know him,

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I know him. I can't imagine how frustrat this must

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:04.760
<v Speaker 1>be for him. For as much as he still wants

1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to play, and for as great as he was, it's

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:13.040
<v Speaker 1>got to be killing him. Not being able to play

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:16.080
<v Speaker 1>more and playing like he's playing to kill.

1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:18.480
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be killing him. It's just got to

1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 2>be so frustrating. When you're that competitive and you've been

1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 2>that great, to not be able to do it at

1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the level you're accustomed to has got to be incredibly frustrating.

1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought the the the press conference at the Master's

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Claude and the press conference at the PGA were there

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 2>were stark differences there, subtle but stark differences. When he

1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 2>was asked at Augusta, when he was on the podium

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:45.520
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday before the Masters, why do you keep doing this?

1:00:45.600 --> 1:00:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Why do

1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you keep getting after it? And he just kind of

1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>smiles that I love the game. I love to compete

1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:54.840
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. I wouldn't be here if I

1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't think I had a chance to win. I wouldn't

1:00:57.120 --> 1:00:59.640
<v Speaker 2>do this if I didn't think I could still win.

1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I totally one hundred percent believe him. I do, I

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:04.640
<v Speaker 2>really do. I don't think he's snowing anybody on that

1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Fast forward four weeks the Tuesday before the PGA Championship

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:13.440
<v Speaker 2>tempered expectations. We'll have to wait and see how it goes.

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:16.920
<v Speaker 2>That kind of stuff. It wasn't the same conviction, and

1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 2>it makes me wonder does he have it just an

1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:26.120
<v Speaker 2>inkling in his brain where he's thinking, I don't know

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 2>if I keep doing this against the best players in

1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the world who are playing three out of every four

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:34.520
<v Speaker 2>weeks or two out of every four weeks on tour

1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:38.160
<v Speaker 2>or on live or wherever they're playing in golf, and

1:01:38.200 --> 1:01:41.919
<v Speaker 2>they practice every day, and they work out every day,

1:01:41.960 --> 1:01:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and they hit balls, and they chip and pitch and

1:01:44.600 --> 1:01:47.120
<v Speaker 2>they put and all the things that I used to

1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:49.280
<v Speaker 2>do every single day to make me the best player

1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:52.560
<v Speaker 2>of my generation. He can't do those anymore. Claude, and

1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the guys he's playing against they do. They're twenty to

1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:59.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years younger than he is. They are incredibly

1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 2>accomplished major champions because he no longer has that vacuum

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and sucked out all the air of every major championship,

1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and these guys now have the grit, the game, the

1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:14.480
<v Speaker 2>experience and the moxie to play every single week. And

1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:18.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's tough to watch him not play well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough to watch him struggle, although I didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>him limping, you know at the PGA, which I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was great, but not severely. But it's tough. Man. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, as a sports fan, you want to watch

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<v Speaker 2>the best players play their best. You want to see

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great quotes I've ever heard from Rendez Barber,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame cornerback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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<v Speaker 2>All you want in life is to be the best

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<v Speaker 2>of yourself when it matters most. And Tiger can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that right now. Doesn't mean he can't do it at Pinehurst,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean he can't do it at Royal Troon, but

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<v Speaker 2>it sure doesn't look like it right now that he

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<v Speaker 2>can go four days including a practice round or who

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<v Speaker 2>with nine holes before that? Can he do it all

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<v Speaker 2>four days physically and not being as razor sharp as

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<v Speaker 2>you normally would be because you're only playing once a month.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that difference, The difference between me and you

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<v Speaker 2>being in a golf cart with Brooks Koepka and Dustin

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson with a couple of beers in our cart, telling

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<v Speaker 2>stories and playing a practice around and hanging out at

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<v Speaker 2>home at the grove at the Floridian. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>different than being inside the ropes at Pinehurst, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just is a wholly different deal. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Tiger's going to be able to do it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>never going to count him out, but it sure hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>looked great in his first two major championships.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think at this point, Sansey? The motivation

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<v Speaker 1>is then, because obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>To win we judged.

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<v Speaker 1>We judge Tiger off of a lens that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>judge anyone off of. It's not like Michael Jordan kept

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<v Speaker 1>playing at this stage of his career, right, it was

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<v Speaker 1>over by this point, right, mj was done. So when

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<v Speaker 1>we look back at Michael's career, we never really got

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<v Speaker 1>to see him in this Tiger phase of his career

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<v Speaker 1>to where he's showing up at tournaments and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>playing well, And it's just I just don't understand how

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<v Speaker 1>much longer he would want to do this. Knowing him

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I know, he is the most competitive

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<v Speaker 1>human being I've ever met ever, right, and this has

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<v Speaker 1>got to be killing him for him to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and play the way he's playing, And I just wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>why does he want to keep doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>None of us will ever understand what it's like to

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<v Speaker 2>be Tiger Woods. It's impossible to know. Even those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are around him on the periphery like we are,

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<v Speaker 2>it's impossible to know exactly what it's like to be

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger Woods. I agree with everything you just said, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the part with why, Like, at what point is he

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, Yeah, this is just killing me and

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<v Speaker 2>I just for me to tie for forty seventh if

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<v Speaker 2>I make a cut, or for me to struggle to

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<v Speaker 2>make a cut, or for me to miss a cut.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not who I am. It's not who I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>And at some point he's going to come to the

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<v Speaker 2>realization and he's just going to say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do this anymore because I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>not good enough to do it. I'm not healthy enough

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. And that's a brutal thing to find

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<v Speaker 2>out in sports. If I was an athlete, if I

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<v Speaker 2>was Tiger, I would play as long as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know when lightning's going to strike and you

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<v Speaker 2>can put four days together, but you do conjure up

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<v Speaker 2>these images of Joe Namath playing for the Rams and

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<v Speaker 2>Willie May's playing for the Mets, and you're like, yeesh, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>no one's going to think about this part of his

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<v Speaker 2>career and not the fifteen major wins in the eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two regular PGA Tour victories pg R Tour victories. With

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two, no one's going to think, oh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>this and the other thing. But it is tough to

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<v Speaker 2>watch as a sports fan, as someone who's been around

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<v Speaker 2>him for twenty five years. You know, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>him to be happy, and if this is making him happy,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead. But like you, I would have to think

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably more frustrating than anything else. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>can't compete against the best players in the most pressurized situation,

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<v Speaker 2>against full fields at major championship venues which have the

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<v Speaker 2>most difficult setups. Save for what happened last week with

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<v Speaker 2>the scoring in Valhalla, you're asking a lot to have

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<v Speaker 2>majors be the only time you play golf. Is he

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<v Speaker 2>going to play the Memorial claud and then the US Open?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know he didn't play Bayhill or

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<v Speaker 2>the players before playing the Masters. That had to have hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. You know that prep is everything, man, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just can't compete against these guys. These guys are

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<v Speaker 2>playing golf every day of their lives, getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>these big events. They're healthy, hungry, ready to go. Golfs

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<v Speaker 2>are only focus. You know, Tiger's got kids, he's injured,

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<v Speaker 2>he can't play as much as he used to, he

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<v Speaker 2>can't practice much as he used to. He's forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>years old, his body is sore, and he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on. I mean, it's just it's just really

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hopefully we will see four good rounds put together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just like to see him put together four good rounds. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, I mean he played four rounds at the Masters,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the weekend. I mean, you know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>just basically trying to get through the round. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing to see Tiger shoot, You're just somewhere four

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<v Speaker 1>rounds in the sixties, finish twentieth, you know, and not

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<v Speaker 1>have those not have it be Is he going to finish?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he going to make the cut? I mean, because

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's That's the sad thing right now, is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean us open. The narrative is got to be okay,

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<v Speaker 1>does he first of all, can he finish? And can't

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<v Speaker 1>he make the cut? And that's not where I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see Tiger Woods playing. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see that. I don't want to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you if you believe that the smart people

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<v Speaker 2>out in the Nevada Desert know what they're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>and they usually do, because the last time I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a casino close was never so not in Nevada anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was minus two thirty five to miss the

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<v Speaker 2>cut at the PGA. Okay, for those who aren't in

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<v Speaker 2>the gambling world, that's a pretty heavy favorite, which means

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<v Speaker 2>that they think it's going to happen. Pretty heavy favorite

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<v Speaker 2>that he's going to miss the cut. That's at the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA now, if he doesn't have a start before Piners, Pineers,

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume would have a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult setup than the PGA, especially Vahalla last week

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<v Speaker 2>because of all the rain and the moisture. So what

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<v Speaker 2>are the odds going to be at Pinehurst to make

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<v Speaker 2>the cut? You know, it's it's tough man. It's Tiger Woods, Claude,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger Woods. We shouldn't be talking about can he make

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<v Speaker 2>the cut or not? We should be talking about Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>win or not. That's it. And if Tier wants to

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<v Speaker 2>continue doing this, totally his prerogative. It's great seeing him

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<v Speaker 2>out there, Fans love seeing him out there. But if

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to continue to punish himself in this regard,

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<v Speaker 2>I just would be surprised if he keeps going on

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<v Speaker 2>and on like this. I just can't imagine that he's

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<v Speaker 2>okay going out there and being someone who's looked upon,

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<v Speaker 2>is whether he going to make the cut or not,

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<v Speaker 2>and basically being a ceremonial golfer. He said for years

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't be that, but currently right now it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he is. And I you know, he can do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>great seeing him out there, but I just can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how often he's going to keep putting him out there,

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<v Speaker 2>putting himself out there and having these types of results.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the amazing thing is, I mean the short

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<v Speaker 1>game that he's showing us. I mean, if he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a short if he didn't have a short game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no telling what some of these scores

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<v Speaker 1>would because the way some of the shots he hit

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<v Speaker 1>at Augusta were unbelievable. And you can see him in

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<v Speaker 1>his practice sessions. I think the golf swing Sansy looks

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<v Speaker 1>like what he can do. I think he's figured out

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<v Speaker 1>a way that he can move in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>he can swing the golf club. But I watched him

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<v Speaker 1>go over to the short game area during one of

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<v Speaker 1>the warm ups, and you're watching the short game and

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching how he does things, and it's still like

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<v Speaker 1>watching Picasso paint. I mean, the guy's short game is

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<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't that make sense? You're the instructor, not me. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>that make sense? You know, with his body and how

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<v Speaker 2>sore he is and how beat up his body is,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing he can work on the most is a

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<v Speaker 2>short game because he's not doing the full swings. The

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<v Speaker 2>full swings are the ones that he's gonna have the

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<v Speaker 2>most difficult with.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Yeah, now, listen, the short game still looks amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, he was such a great champion.

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<v Speaker 1>I was lucky enough to be around owned for kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the Butch harmon Tiger era. I mean, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it all. And I always say this about Tiger. As

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<v Speaker 1>good as people think he was, he was better. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of these people that because a lot of this

1:11:15.080 --> 1:11:18.160
<v Speaker 1>younger generation of guys never really saw it. They never

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<v Speaker 1>saw it up close. They didn't know what it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what the tournaments were like. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at Tiger now, it's upsetting to me to

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<v Speaker 1>watch because I got to watch Tiger in the day

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so much better than people remember. He

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<v Speaker 1>was so much better. It's just crazy to see how

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<v Speaker 1>his body just won't let him do what he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And I just think that's gotta be that's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be killing him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's got to be killing him. He was literally

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<v Speaker 2>the definition of intimidating. He was intimidating to players when

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<v Speaker 2>he walked onto the range. He was intimidating when he

1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:03.439
<v Speaker 2>was in the locker room. He was intimidating when you

1:12:03.439 --> 1:12:05.080
<v Speaker 2>were on the practice putting green. And let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>you something. I've had players tell me this before. Claude.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the coolest things ever. Whether you're watching

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<v Speaker 2>on TV or you're lucky enough to be there in person.

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<v Speaker 2>The coolest thing when Tiger's playing on the first tee

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<v Speaker 2>when he gets announced. Most guys get announced. Now on

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<v Speaker 2>the tee from Jupiter, Florida. Here's Claude Harmon, now on

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<v Speaker 2>the t from Washington, d C. Here's Steve Sands now

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<v Speaker 2>on the tee the nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand six. You just keep going, thousand and seven, You

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<v Speaker 2>just keep going. You're gonna miss your tea time because

1:12:35.520 --> 1:12:40.040
<v Speaker 2>his announcement is so long, and he is literally the

1:12:40.080 --> 1:12:44.840
<v Speaker 2>most intimidating golfer who's ever played the sport. You could

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<v Speaker 2>argue whether he's the greatest of all time, you cannot

1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:51.840
<v Speaker 2>argue that he was an intimidating force out there. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, when he still comes to an event,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's only once a month or once every

1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:59.200
<v Speaker 2>couple of months, when he comes to an event, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole different happening. Man. He completely changes the temperature

1:13:05.320 --> 1:13:07.840
<v Speaker 2>when he walks onto the grounds, no matter where he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fascinating to feel and to see.

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<v Speaker 2>He's earned it, though he's earned every second. Tiger too much,

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<v Speaker 2>You show him too much, show nobody shows him too much,

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<v Speaker 2>because guess what. The first thing anybody asked when they

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<v Speaker 2>don't see the golf is what Tiger shoot today? The

1:13:27.280 --> 1:13:31.439
<v Speaker 2>second thing they ask is who's leading? It's always Tiger first,

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<v Speaker 2>and then who's leading. It's never the other way around.

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<v Speaker 2>For anybody who says that TV shows him too much,

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<v Speaker 2>or podcasts or radio or newspapers talk or write about

1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:43.639
<v Speaker 2>him too much, you're wrong, man. He's earned every second

1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:45.479
<v Speaker 2>of that one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, it's still great to see him. And it's

1:13:49.080 --> 1:13:50.800
<v Speaker 1>still great. I mean, he actually said hi to me,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you're normally he's kind of in the zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and you you know, I've non listen, I've known Tiger forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's one of those He's one of those human

1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:04.559
<v Speaker 1>beings that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk to

1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:07.600
<v Speaker 1>him unless you know, you just don't. He's just got that.

1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:12.320
<v Speaker 1>He there is an intimidation factor to this day. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing on the putting green and he was

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<v Speaker 1>putting near DJ was hitting some putts and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>he walked right past me and he shook his hand down.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, hey, bro, what's up man, Good to see

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<v Speaker 1>you he gave me a little hug and everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I was surprised because normally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really say much, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>I speak to he speaks first.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you definitely don't speak first. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never in a million years be standing on a

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<v Speaker 1>putting green and engage conversation with him. I just and

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I used to used to stay at

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<v Speaker 1>our house. He used to pick him up from the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known him since he was sixteen years old. But

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<v Speaker 1>the intimidation thing that you said in the persona that

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<v Speaker 1>he still has is he is this type of character

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<v Speaker 1>to where I would never think of just walking up

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<v Speaker 1>to him and saying hi to him. I just, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he wins the US Senior Open, so that

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<v Speaker 2>he has a US Senior Open, a US Open, a

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<v Speaker 2>US Amateur, and a US Junior. He'd be the first

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<v Speaker 2>one ever to do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be amazing. Sansy always great talking to you. We

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<v Speaker 1>said this the last time. One of the downsides of

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<v Speaker 1>all this turmoil is there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't get to see as often as we

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<v Speaker 1>used to so great. Great to talk to you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will look forward to seeing you at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing Pineers. Let's make sure we make some time to

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<v Speaker 2>raise a glass.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a power. Good to talk to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>be good. So some great takes there from Steve Sands,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got through a lot. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>performance from Xander, all the things that Scotti Scheffler went

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<v Speaker 1>through last week, Bryson, there were a lot of good storylines.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree with with with Sandy. It was great

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<v Speaker 1>to see all the best players in the world back together.

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<v Speaker 1>You can argue listen, I'm done with the arguments, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Majors we talked about it. The Majors

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<v Speaker 1>are the place where you're going to see all of

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<v Speaker 1>the players from all the various tours around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that continues. Hopefully the governing bodies realize that

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<v Speaker 1>they have the power and to showcase the best players

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<v Speaker 1>in the world if they so choose. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people that are thinking like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and Steve Sands and myself are I am definitely one

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<v Speaker 1>of those as well. Son of a Butch comes to

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<v Speaker 1>you almost every Wednesday. We will see you next week,