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I'm your host, Claude Harmon. 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Coming off of a very very excited PGA Championships Xanderschoffle 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: gets his first major and wanted to take a deep 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: dive into it, so figured we would get one of 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the voices of professional golf, Steve Sands, NBC Golf Channel. 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best in the business 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: and had him on the pod before. But it was 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: a very very interesting week at Valhalla and a lot 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: of storylines, just a lot of craziness from last week, 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: so I wanted to get Steve Sands on to talk 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: about it, and I think it is a good one. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: So sit back and enjoy listening to Steve Sands my 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: guest today, Steve Sand's Voice of Golf on Golf Channel 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: and NBC Sansy at the beginning of the week. Beginning 23 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: of the week at the PGA, if I told you 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: the headlines were going to be Scotti, Scheffler gets arrested, 25 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Rory McElroy's getting divorced, Xander closes, Bryson has a chance 26 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: to win another major and is a fan favorite. I mean, 27 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: does any of that track with with what we thought 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: was going to happen? 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense, Scott. I mean, that's exactly the 30 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: way the world has been the last you know, eight 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: or nine years, the last three or four years. In 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: the sport. It makes all the sense in the world 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: that a guy who sleeps with a Bible, who's the 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: hottest player on the planet, it's the most recognizable person 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: in the sport outside of Tiger, just outside the gates 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: at a major championship, would get into some type of 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: disruption or discussion with a police officer and it just 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: doesn't work. I mean, what are we talking about here. 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: It's crazy. You know, the legal part aside the sad 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: part is, of course we had to say this out loud, 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: that somebody lost his life, Claude, that was the reason 42 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 2: there was a traffic terror. That's the first thing and 43 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: really the only thing. The secondary part of the number 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: one player in the world being arrested. We've been to 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: sporting events a thousand times in our lives, Claude. We've 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: seen that traffic type of pattern. You know, maybe not 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: the circumstances because of the traffic, but we've seen that 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: traffic outside of sporting events for years. That was just 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: I have no idea what happened. I hope the police 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: officer and Scotti are all perfectly fine, but again, we 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: have no idea what took place there. 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I've been in courtesy car. You ride 53 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: with the player you're trying to get in. I mean, 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: we were all saying on the driving range. I mean, 55 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: how many players you've You've done that one hundred times, right, 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: You've you've seen the traffic. You know you're in a 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: courtesy car. You know it's got the you know they're 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna bring you in, and so you know, 59 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: so definitely the guys I've worked with, DJ and Brooks. 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: I mean, you do that at majors, you do that 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: two or three times a year. It's just it's all 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: that part of it. And normally the police as soon 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: as they see the courtesy car, you know, with the 64 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: logos on the side of it, you get ushered right in. 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler and Brooks Kepta have the same agent, Blake Smith. 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Blake's father, Randy Smith, is Scotty's swing coach, and Brooks 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: and I were talking on the driving range. I gotta 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: think that Blake Smith never thought he'd get a call 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: saying that he had to go get Scotti Scheffler out 70 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: of jail. 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean, what are the odds of that happening going 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: into the week, What are the odds that happening anytime? 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: I honestly, I have no idea how this is all 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: going to play auclaude, but Friday morning last week has 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: to be one of the most bizarre, you know, stretches 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: of I'm Beyonce around a golf tournament in the history 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: of the sport. I mean, that was just yikes, man, 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: that was great and we laughed. There's this you know, 79 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: who knows how this plays out. I mean, we're joking 80 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: about it now, but my goodness, you know, if this 81 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: doesn't work out in anybody's favor, we're not going to 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: be laughing here. Who knows? 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I mean and talking to Randy Smith on Sunday, his 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, Scotty's longtime swing instructor. He played Friday on 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: just pure adrenaline. I mean, just pure, one hundred percent adrenaline. 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody can prepare you for something like that. 87 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: I've got to think out of all the places Scotty 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: Scheffler ever thought he would be in a jail cell period, 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: let alone a jail cell at a major championship, is 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: just something that you just couldn't He couldn't even believe 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: that would happen. And then on top of that, he 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: goes out and plays an unbelievable round of golf. But 93 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: then Saturday again, his caddy, Teddy Scott's going to watch 94 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: his daughter graduate. Teddy Scott's not on the bag. You 95 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: kind of figured that was going to be Saturday was 96 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: going to be tough for him. It was. Once he 97 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: got arrested, it was like a lot of the like 98 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the wind went out of the sales of the tournament, 99 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: because obviously everybody thinks that Scott he's on this run 100 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: to maybe win his second major championship. The rounds he 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: played on Friday was unbelievable. I mean, I couldn't believe 102 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: he played that. 103 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's as good a round of golf as he's 104 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 2: ever played under the circumstances, considering it's not a Sunday 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: to major, I understand that, but for what he went 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: through that morning to come back out. She's sixty six. 107 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: I realized there were low scores that day, but it 108 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's this incredible last for Saturday. Claude, I 109 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: just think he ran out of gas man. You know, 110 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: imagine what was going on, you know, in his mind. 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: Again you're talking about for people who don't understand. To 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: be number one in the world, you have to have 113 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: some omph to you. There is no such thing as 114 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: being mister nice guy all the time if you're going 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: to be the best at something on the planet. But 116 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: Scotty is as nice a kid as you'll ever be around. 117 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: If you have a daughter, he's the kind of guy 118 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: you want her to marry. He's he's warm, he's nice, 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: he's smart, he's thoughtful, he's an incredible athlete, he's competitive, 120 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: the whole thing. He's got the whole package. I just 121 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: can't believe he got arrested. I just can't believe that happened. 122 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: But again, well I'm gonna have to wait and see 123 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: how it all plays out. But what he did Saturday, 124 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: with that Friday, with that sixty six, Claude, Holy smokes. 125 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you and I both know we've been around 126 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: these guys a long time. It's one thing to be talented, 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: to be great, to go out there play golf kind 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: of laissez Faire's another thing in major championship golf and 129 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: in big PGA Tour events, big live golf events, big 130 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: moments like that. You know, from the collar bones up, 131 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: you've got to be strong out there, and you couldn't 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: be stronger than the strength he showed between the ropes 133 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: on Friday, playing on adrenaline and all the things going 134 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: on in his mind. That sixty six was outstanding. 135 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he is the he is the Tom 136 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Hanks of golf, right, I mean, he's he's this character, 137 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: this person this personality that everybody loves, says, you've been 138 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: you've been around the game a long time. Your your 139 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: weekend week out with these players. I mean, you've seen 140 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: some amazing runs. Obviously what Tiger Woods did, what the 141 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: greats of the game has done. But putting to perspective 142 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: the golf that we're seeing from from Scotty, because I 143 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: think that because his personality is what it is, and 144 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: that's to me, the best thing that he's got going 145 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: for him is you know, I was talking to his agent, 146 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Blake Smith. His mind is his superpower, right, his persona. Yes, 147 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: his golf game is unbelievable, but I think the approach 148 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: that Scotty has to not only life, but to also 149 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: professional golf is the superpower that he's got. How significant 150 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: in the in the realm of great players and runs 151 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: that great players have been on. This run that Scotty's 152 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: been on for the last you know, two three years, 153 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: it's as good of a golf is that we've seen. 154 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: It really is. It's amazing what he's been doing. The 155 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: ball striking is outrageous, The consistency is outrageous. That round 156 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: on Saturday at Valhalla was the first overpar around he 157 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: shot all year. I mean that that's a joke. I mean, 158 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: that's that's really truly outrageous. Another top ten finished for him. 159 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Didn't have a chance to win it on Sunday, but 160 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: it's still a top ten finish. I was talking to 161 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: Raymond Floyd. You know how in Live from the Masters 162 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: on the Golf Channel, we have all the guys come 163 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: in with the green jackets and Ben Crenshaw, Raymond Floyd, 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: Tom Watson, Jack Nicholas. It's all really cool. Gary Player 165 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: did it for years, Arno Palmer did it for years. 166 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: All these guys come in, and Raymond was when he 167 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: was in there, I asked him, what are we seeing 168 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: here from Scotty Scheffler? Same question you just asked me? 169 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: And Raymond said, and I totally agree with them. So 170 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: you have I told Ramy, you have McElroy from eleven 171 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: to fourteen winning four majors. You have Speed from fourteen 172 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: to seventeen winning three major championships. You know, keepka on 173 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: that crazy run. Then he won another one last year 174 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: to make it five major championships. What are we seeing 175 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: from Scotty Scheffler? And Raymond said? Great players all get hot, 176 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: The question is can they remain hot through a sustained 177 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: period of time? So when I went over those names 178 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: that we just went through, McElroy, Speed Kepta, those crazy 179 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: great runs they went on, Raymond said, oh, no, we 180 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: all do that. But when we get into a separate 181 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: category like a Tiger or a Jack and those types 182 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: of players, you're talking about guys who are consistently great 183 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: beyond three years. So what Raymond said was, we're seeing 184 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: pure greatness from Scotty, there's no question about that. We're 185 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: also seeing someone who's on a heater. There's no question 186 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 2: about that. The combination of the two will it sustain 187 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: itself after three years? That will put Scotty Laud in 188 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: a different category than just being another not I mean quotations, 189 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: another great player who's gotten hot. But there's no debate 190 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: he's the best player in the world right now. There's 191 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: no debate is the best ball striker. And if that 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: Potter cooperates, he's going to be there on Sunday, and 193 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: if it's his time to win another one, it is. 194 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: And I think he's the best player in the world 195 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: right now by far. Yeah. 196 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: And I think Sansy's the thing that when I look 197 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: at his game, I mean just the way that he 198 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: approaches golf and the way that he kind of lives 199 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: his life. You know, he doesn't really get wrapped up 200 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: in a lot of the stuff that a lot of athletes, 201 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: but specifically golfers get wrapped up in. You know, my 202 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: dad says the same thing, but she says the same 203 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: thing that can he sustain this and can the heater 204 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: become What Rory did was Rory came out and he 205 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: was on a heater and then he just did it 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: for the next ten twelve years. Right. You can talk 207 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: about the fact that Rory hasn't won a major in 208 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: ten years, but Rory has been one of, if not 209 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: the top three four dominant players of the last ten years. 210 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: So he's been doing this for a decade. And every 211 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: major Rory is one of the favorites for the foreseeable future, Sansy, 212 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: every major Scotti Scheffler, regardless of where the golf course is, 213 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: regardless of what the setup is, he is going to 214 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: be the favorite because he has so many of the 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: other things that you have to have to be a 216 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: great champion and a great player. You have to be 217 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: able to handle the pressure. Like you said, everybody's good. 218 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: Everybody gets on these runs, but to be in the 219 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: elite great you have to sustain it for longer than 220 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: just a two to three year period. 221 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: Well, just think about the four major championships. You know. 222 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: The beauty to me of the four major championships is 223 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: is they're different. They're like tennis, you know, they're the 224 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: four Grand Slams are different from each other. The four 225 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: major championships in golf are different. You can't find one 226 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't fit Scotty. I used to think this about Tiger, 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, this course fits him well? Really 228 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: which one doesn't? I mean, which one doesn't fit him well? 229 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: So you know, the Masters, obviously he's won it twice, 230 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: so clearly augusta National has warmed up in Scotty's mind. 231 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: You know, the PGA Championship again, he put himself right there. 232 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: The Open is the US opens at Pinehurst, I mean, 233 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: tell me why he can't succeed there and then at 234 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: Royal Troon. There's no reason at an Open championship. The 235 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: way he strikes a golf ball. If it's windy there 236 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: and the bad weather comes in there, it doesn't matter 237 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: whether the weather's great or whether it's bad. He's the 238 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: best ball striker in the world. So if the weather's bad. 239 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: I'll take the ball striker when the weather's bad, and 240 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: the guy who's mentally tough. Oh, by the way, Scotty's 241 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: mentally tough as well, so he's got one of those things. It's, 242 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: you know, not picking on Andy North winning two US 243 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Opens or Lee Jansen winning two US Opens or hail 244 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: Or winning three US Opens. You know, love all those guys, 245 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: and they're all great, great players, but it seems like 246 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 2: they had like one avenue. You know, in these major championships. 247 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: You talk about Rory, you talk about Scotty Schefford, these 248 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: guys could win anywhere. You know, these guys could win 249 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: absolutely anywhere. And look, we're gonna go to pine Ricks 250 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: next month, and as long as he's healthy and still there, 251 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: who's gonna be favored Scotty? 252 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Well? I mean, And the other thing is he's playing 253 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: this week in Colonial. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins there? 254 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Then what memorial before that? Sure is? How wouldn't surprise 255 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: me if you won there? Because that's a big golf course. 256 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: You have to be a great ball striker. He could 257 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: conceivably go into Pinehurst off the back of two more wins. 258 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: No question about it. And that's the thing that I 259 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: love about watching Scotty play. Is Colonial this week, Okay, 260 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm flying there tomorrow. Okay. Colonial this week is like 261 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: hilton Head, like why lie the Sony Open in Hawaii, 262 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you got this monster 263 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: ballpark which we're going to be seeing at the memorial 264 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: at Mirfield Village. And last week Valhalla was like Tory 265 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: Pines and hilton Head combined, real small greens but a 266 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: massive ballpark. And here he was once again, except for 267 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: that one day, like Brooks Kopka, you know, just one 268 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: day kind of took him out of the event. And 269 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: Scotty just didn't have a great day on Saturday. But 270 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: weird circumstances for him. But there's no way he's not 271 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: the favorite clot coming in. It's just it's just wild now, 272 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: different months, different conditions, different cour different time zones, different brass, 273 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: different agronomy, different players coming in. Hot Macelroy this week 274 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: was the man who won two in a row in 275 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: New Orleans with Shane and then at Quel Hollows, Vander 276 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: came close and then he put it together. The one 277 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: constant in all of this is Scotty Scotty is just 278 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: there every single week. 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The MLM two pro is 298 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: the solution for you play your way with rapsodo golf, 299 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: play without limits. You mentioned Xander Schaffle getting his first 300 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: major championships. Within the fraternity of professional golf, both on 301 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: the playing side and the media side and the caddyside, everybody, 302 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: there are popular wins and then there are popular wins. 303 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: Zander winning a major will be a very, very popular win, 304 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: but there are also wins on tour when players get 305 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: their first major to where everybody in the sport says, 306 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: you could see it coming. He's always had the game. 307 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: The knock against Xander is, you know, eight wins. I 308 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: mean he's what fifty million now, I mean, you know, 309 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: turn pro, what's sixteen seventeen, So the career is so legit, right, 310 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: But the knock against Xander was when he did he 311 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: should have won more. Yeah, I mean you can always 312 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: say that about a lot of guys, but Xander seemed 313 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: to always put himself in position a lot, and he 314 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: put himself in position a lot in majors. And he 315 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: has every part. There isn't a part of the game 316 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have. And you know, he's made some 317 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: changes to his golf swing with Chris Como. But for 318 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: a small guy, he hits it. Miles Xander is as 319 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: legit as it gets, and I think everybody is surprised 320 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: that it has taken him this long to win a major. 321 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: Thus just because that's how good everybody thinks he is. 322 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: Well, we know that that golf is your life. It's 323 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: been your life, you know, literally your entire life. But 324 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: I know you're also a sports fan and you also 325 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: appreciate other athletes in other sports. You know, it took 326 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's seven years to win his first NBA title. 327 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: He had to get through the you know, the Pistons. 328 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: They had to get through the Celtics before that with 329 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: the Pistons. Teams do this all the time in teams competition. 330 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: They can't quite get there and then they break through. Well, 331 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: there's no reason to think that golf is any different. 332 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: You know, Xander had to build up some scar tissue, 333 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: he gave a couple away, didn't play great a couple 334 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: of times when he was in that spot, but overall, 335 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: he put himself in a position to win. Just wasn't 336 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: his time, and you ran into a brick wall. It 337 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: happened for him on Sunday, and I'm so happy for him. 338 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: It's an incredibly popular to win AI amongst his peers. 339 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: He's a great guy, not just a great player. He's 340 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: a competitor. How about his confidence, Claude, I mean, you're 341 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: in the instruction business, okay, you know which I've always 342 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: joked with your dad about this. You guys are so 343 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: brilliant at the technical side of the game, but also 344 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: have an understanding without a degree in this, that you're 345 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: also part sports psychologist when you're also coaching in golf. 346 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: And for him to switch away from his dad, okay, 347 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: his lifelong coach is his dad, all right, And he 348 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: goes to Chris Cuomo, and he has the changes, and 349 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: he's not playing not to lose, Claude, He's playing to win, 350 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: and he's stayed aggressive. The second shot on eighteen, when 351 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: you had to dig into that bunker, get real low 352 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: below the ball, do you lay up there? Do you 353 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: play conservatively there? Or do you say no? No? This 354 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: has been my game plan all week. I know I 355 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: need a four at this par five to get a win. 356 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: Let's keep playing the way I've always played. And you 357 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: put all that together and I'm just so happy for him. 358 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm proud of Xander for hanging in there. You know, 359 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: in this short period of time. People think he's been 360 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: out there for one hundred years and he hasn't gotten 361 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: that first major championship win. Like you said, his body 362 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: of work in his time frame since turning pro claude 363 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: is beyond legit. Man. He is a filthy, filthy golfer man. 364 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: He is a great, great player, and I think there's 365 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: more to come. I'm not a huge fan club. You know, 366 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this before. You know, 367 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: it happens all the time. Guy busts through and wins 368 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: his first major, and now everybody is saying, oh, now 369 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: the floodgates are going to open. I don't necessarily believe 370 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: in that in this particular case because of how he's 371 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: gotten to this point, building the step by step to 372 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: get to a major championship victory. To me, Xander's not 373 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: going away anytime soon. I fully expect him to be 374 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: in contention at plenty of majors over the next decade. 375 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing that that was impressive about 376 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: last week is he had he had a chance to 377 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: wink before at Wells Fargo and he got smoked by 378 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: Rory McRoy. Okay, Roy McRoy has this extra gear that 379 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: not a lot of players have. But he's in the 380 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: final group with Rory. Rory turns on the gas, wins 381 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: going away at Quail Hollow the week before. It would 382 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: be easy to be affected by that, to say okay, 383 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: because that could go the other way, right, that's another 384 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: chance that Xander's got to win a big tournament against 385 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: a quality field, against one of the best players in 386 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: the world. And you know, Roy what shot eight nine 387 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: under on Sunday at Quail and Sander what shut couple 388 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: under and didn't get it done. So you wouldn't be 389 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: surprised if he comes in with a little bit of 390 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: scar tissue. But sixty two, sixty eight, sixty a, sixty 391 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: five to get to twenty one under on a Sunday 392 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: that Listen, there are a lot of people Sandy talking 393 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: about the golf course being too easy. It was like 394 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: EPC all of it. The golf course is the golf course, right, 395 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and the players play the golf course that they're told 396 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: to show up to. I thought we saw some big 397 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: time drama on Sunday for a major that everybody that 398 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I've heard articles social saying, oh, 399 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: it needed to be harder, it needed to be harder 400 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: twenty one under. I thought it was really good. 401 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: But I would like to see a major championship play 402 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: more difficult. There's no question about that. I think everybody 403 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: would agree with that. However, there's no way to discount 404 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: someone's victory. It rained two inches the week prior, It 405 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: rained half an inch on Monday. It rained a little 406 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: bit more on Thursday night and Friday morning. The golf 407 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: course is soft. There's nothing you can do about it. 408 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: If it was firm and fast, it may not have 409 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: been as entertaining. Who knows. It was incredibly entertaining. And 410 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: by the way, it was like that for everybody in 411 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: the field. All right, So was it a little bit 412 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: on the easier side, Sure, okay, the scores were low, 413 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: but Xander was the best player all week. And by 414 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: the way, let's not discount the wire to wire factory, Claude. 415 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: You know this, What people see in golfers and what 416 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: we see in athletes is their talent, their skill. What 417 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: we can't measure is how mentally tough they are because 418 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: we can't get inside their brain. Well, you try sleeping 419 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: on a lead. I've talked to a million golfers who 420 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: who have told me, can't sleep when you have a 421 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: lead next day, can't sleep when you have a lead. 422 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: God forbid. You have the lead after fifty four holes, 423 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: and you're leading with only eighteen to play, and you 424 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: know what's in front of you. This guy went wired 425 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: to wire, all right. That is so difficult to do 426 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: at a regular PGA Tour event. It's so difficult to 427 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: do at a Players Championship. It's exponentially more difficult to 428 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: do at a major championship. I just think the world 429 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: of Xander as a person and as a golfer, and 430 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: I think it all came together for him last week, 431 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: and I'm really looking forward to seeing how he moves forward, 432 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: how this propels him moving forward, will keep him motivated 433 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: to win more? Will he rest on his laurels? I'll 434 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: take the former, not the latter. I think Xander is 435 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: here to stay for a long time. He is a great, 436 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: great player. 437 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also thought it was a statement the 438 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: way he played in the final group, playing with a 439 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: two time major champion in Colin Morrikawa. You'll call him, 440 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: you know, won two majors early in his career, and 441 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: it's made looking made winning majors look really really easy. 442 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: The switch from Stefan, who is a larger than life character, 443 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: like one of the great characters in professional golf. We're 444 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: lucky enough to know Sanders dad Stefan. You hear him 445 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: before you see him. He's one of my favorite people. 446 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: But like you said, it is tough when your father 447 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: has been kind of your coach and your mentor and 448 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: helped you get to this platform. It's not an easy 449 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: decision that Xander took to reach out to Chris Como 450 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: and say, okay, let me see if what you think 451 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: and let me see if there's some gains that I 452 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: could make, because you know, there's a comfort level when 453 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: you work with your dad and he's kind of been 454 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: your guy. I take my hat off to to Xanders, 455 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: say listen, man, I'm gonna try and see if there's 456 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: something I'm missing or something that maybe I don't know. 457 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: I think that that's been huge and for Chris Como, 458 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: that's you know, two major champions now for Chris as 459 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: a coach and Bryson de Champeau and Xander, who couldn't 460 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: be any more different, but an interesting, interesting choice from 461 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: Xander to make that change. 462 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: Oh interesting for sure. I'll tell you what, Claude. I 463 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: was saying this last week to some people. I wasn't 464 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: working last week because a CBS ESPN event and I 465 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: don't do life in the PGA, so I was just watching. 466 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: But I was texting with some friends of mine. I 467 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: was like, you know, you ought to you ought to 468 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: bring up how about the credit Stefan deserves. Oh yeah, 469 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: for your son, who's your your your your whole world 470 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: professionally and personally, like you said, great guy, credible personality, huge, 471 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: larger than life kind of person. But for him, Claude, 472 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a parent, you know, for you to 473 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 2: receive that news from your son and then take it 474 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: the correct way and not ruin your a relationship with 475 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: your son, which is the most important thing, but be 476 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: the professional side as well of what Xander's trying to do. 477 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: To me, it speaks volumes as to what people thought 478 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: of Stefan before this and now after. He is not 479 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: some guy who's just in Xander's face and in his way. 480 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: That is a tremendous job. In my opinion, I see 481 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: the smile on your face, you know, not a part coach, 482 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: part parent. I thought Stefan handled that beautifully, and I 483 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: thought Xander handled his father beautifully in that position. You 484 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: can imagine how difficult that must have been for Xander. 485 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: Now I'm not making them analogous, but we all see 486 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 2: Mike Thomas and Justin Thomas all day, every day at 487 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: PGA tour events, and people ask me all the time 488 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: about that relationship, and Mike gets asked about it all 489 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: the time. Justin gets asked about all the time. It 490 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: can't be easy when you're with your dad twenty four 491 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: to seven like that, in a working environment, and when 492 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: things don't go well. As we all know, Claude, it's 493 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 2: never the player's fault. It's the cadi's fault. It's the 494 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: coach's fault. He's fault. It can't be the player's fault. 495 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: And I say that facetiously, but you know what I mean. 496 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: So when you have to make a switch, or you 497 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: feel like you need to make a switch, it's one 498 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: thing to call Claude Harmon, it's another thing to call 499 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: your dad. I mean, my god, that's not easy. They're 500 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: all not easy. So I give them all credit for that. 501 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: I give Chris a ton of credit for handling that 502 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: situation well and again for Xander to mix up his 503 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: action because he needed to make an improvement to get 504 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: this next step and then to have it all come 505 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: together and come to fruition. Man, I give all the 506 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: parties there a lot of credit. It's just it's just 507 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: just a lot there. And by the way, back to 508 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: the Justin Thomas and Mike Thomas thing. You know, Justin 509 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: and Mike have both told me and you know this 510 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: for years, they have found that correct balance of father 511 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: and coach, coach and father pupil and father pupil and coach. 512 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: Because Justin is the boss, he's the player, and it's 513 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: got to be very strange to have that. And I 514 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: give all the credit in the world a step on 515 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: and Xander for handling that beautifully. 516 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And Stefan, you know, was a very good athlete 517 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: when he was younger, and and you know, I think 518 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: he took a lot of the things that that kind 519 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: of propelled him in his early career. It's trying to 520 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: be an athlete as well. Sander goes to number two 521 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: in the world. If if you still believe in the 522 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Official World Golf rankings. Can he be the best player 523 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: in the world. Does he have that type of game? Santy? 524 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: It's a great question, Claude, Uh do Look. I think 525 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: that Rory, Scottie and if John ever got it together again, 526 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, and it Brooks is a completely healthy and 527 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 2: motivated at all times. I think that those five, you know, 528 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: justin Thomas has kind of fallen off just a touch, 529 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: but obviously the game is still there. I'm sure. I'm 530 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: sure he'll get it back. Kyler Marakalis seems like he's 531 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: gotten it back, you know, a little bit to where 532 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: it was when he was in his heyday. But as 533 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: far as to me, McElroy, Scheffler, Xander a healthy and motivated, 534 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: productive John Ram I think those are the four best 535 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: players in the world that I don't see any reason 536 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: why Xander can't be number one in the official World 537 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: Golf ranking if you still believe in that, but also 538 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: be right there with those guys every week as far 539 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: as being favored and then showing up on Sundays on 540 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: leaderboards at major championships. For sure, Xanders got the game. 541 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he's got all you need. And now that 542 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: he has this win, perhaps that little shot of confidence 543 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: that lets him know that, Yeah, there's a big difference 544 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: between thinking you can do it and knowing you can 545 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: do it. Well, up until Sunday, he always thought he 546 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: could do it, and now he knows he can do it. 547 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: So let's see where it goes from here. But I 548 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: don't think there's any reason. Maybe week in week out, 549 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: I would think that Rory and Scott he might be 550 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: more consistently better, maybe right now, but Xander's right there 551 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: with him. Man Sanders, good man, he is so good. Club. 552 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about someone who's really kind of I will 553 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: say this, I think he's transformed his game. Bryson d Chambeau. 554 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Bryson always had a tremendous amount of talent, 555 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: and then you know, he went down the route where 556 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: he looked like he ate Bryson and during COVID bulked 557 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden showed up looking like 558 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: the incredible Hulk and was trying to drive greens and 559 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: wins a major at Wingfoot and then makes all the 560 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: comments that he makes about Augusta where par Is in 561 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: the fifties and all of this stuff. But I've been 562 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, all of my guys went to live so 563 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: I've watched Bryson play a lot of golf over the 564 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: last two and a half years, and sansy he has 565 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: figured out how to play golf. He is still as 566 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: quirky and unique and testing equipment and always pushing the boundaries. 567 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: But there is a different Bryson in twenty twenty four 568 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: than there was in twenty twenty. He's evolved as a person, 569 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: but he's also evolved as a golfer. And I thought, 570 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, four rounds in the sixties, sixty eight, sixty five, 571 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: sixty seven, sixty four on Sunday, I mean the eight 572 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: iron he hits from two ten to twenty and stiffs it. 573 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: There's nobody in the world that Bryson is one of 574 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: those players that can do things that really no one 575 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: else in the game can do. How how important do 576 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: you think last week was for Bryson from a game standpoint, 577 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: but also the fans seem to embrace him in a 578 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: way that they never did before, and he seemed to 579 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: embrace the fans in a way that he hasn't embraced 580 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: them before. I just think it's been cool to watch 581 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: this kind of transformation into Bryson kind of where he 582 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: was to kind of I think this is Bryson two 583 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: point zero. 584 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: You're familiar, Claude with the what's going on with the 585 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: TV ratings this year on the PGA Tour and how 586 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: down the ratings have been. The ratings were up ten 587 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: percent on Sunday, and that's a direct result and no 588 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: offense to Xander, who I love. It's a direct result 589 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: of Bryson. I think that the fan favorite part of 590 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: it is fascinating because Live took away some of the 591 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: great villains in the sport, and I mean that in 592 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: a lovable way, you know, like a lovable villain in 593 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: sports is necessary. And to me, what I saw last week, 594 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: more than anything Claude, is just how much golf fans 595 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: in America miss seeing Bryson to Shamba play. He is 596 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: a showman. He is a bizarre cat who thinks his 597 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: own way, plays his own way, does things his own way. 598 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: It's as if Frank Sinatra's song My Way was written 599 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: just for Bryson to Shambo and the golf fans. Last 600 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: week on TV and in person, you could just sense 601 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: how much he has been missed because he's out there 602 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: hooting and holler and he's running around, He's doing the 603 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: whole thing. He's Bryson, the whole deal, and he's muscling 604 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: everything and is just fascinating to watch. He's the most 605 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: fascinating guy in the sport to watch when he's playing well. 606 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any debate on that. You can 607 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: like him or dislike him. You can go through the 608 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: litany of ten, twelve, fifteen best players in the world, 609 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: you can't find anybody more fascinating to watch than that 610 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: guy at the highest level. So he's missed and his 611 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: game is so good, Claud and he's just he's done 612 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: it different ways as far as the science of it all, 613 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: but he also has evolved into the player he is 614 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: today through his own convictions, his own way of doing it. 615 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: And there's a lot to do with the people around 616 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: him and Chris and everything. But you know, good for 617 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: Bryson for you know, getting it together and getting it 618 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: back on track. And I think he's better now than 619 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: he's ever been. And I was not surprised to see 620 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: him play well last week. It won't surprise me to 621 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: see him play well at Pinehurst or Royal truon well. 622 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: He's just a tremendous player and my god is he 623 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: a breadth of fresh air to a sport that really 624 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: needed it in twenty twenty four. 625 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: What do you think last week showed the fans that 626 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: they maybe didn't see before, or maybe Bryson wasn't able 627 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: to show them because he's always had legit game, right, 628 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't you can't fake it. I mean 629 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: usam you know, wins early major champion. He's been on 630 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: President's Cup and the Ryder Cup team, but last week 631 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: seemed like it was different. Is that more Bryson changing 632 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: or do you think the fans are changing. 633 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: A little bit of both. I think that, you know, 634 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: one thing that people don't realize. I'm fifty five years old, Claude. 635 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: I think you're a little younger than I, but. 636 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: I'm fifty five. Babies, Sammy Hagar. 637 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: We're the same age. There you go. So I think 638 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: people really forget that this guys are kids, man, their kids, 639 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: and they're growing up Unlike you and me, they're growing 640 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: up in front of the world's eye, so everything they 641 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: do and say is scrutinized from the time they were 642 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: like nineteen twenty twenty one. So here's Bryson Wotson in 643 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: his late twenties. Is he around thirty maybe, you know, 644 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: let's say around there. He's just getting going, claud I mean, 645 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: you know he can be. He's young enough to be 646 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: one of our kids, for God's sake, So he's just 647 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: kind of evolving as a human being and not just 648 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: a golfer. That's the first thing I think. The second 649 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: thing is, I think the guys who I've spoken to 650 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 2: and you know this way better than me, the guys 651 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: i've spoken to with live the one thing they say 652 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: they miss more than anything is the juice, you know, 653 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: they miss, you know, being against the best in these 654 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: monster crowds. I know there's a big crowd at an 655 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: Adelaide down in Australia, but for the most part, they're 656 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: not playing in front of these monster crowds. And I 657 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: think people forget to use this word earlier with Bryson. 658 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: People forget these guys aren't just professional golfers, their performers, Claude. 659 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: You know, during COVID we heard a lot of them 660 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: say it was really weird. It was so quiet out there. 661 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: They weren't playing in front of fans, They didn't have 662 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: any reaction, they didn't have the adrenaline going and I 663 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: think Bryson loves the show, isn't afraid to show off 664 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 2: a little bit, isn't afraid to show his enjoyments on 665 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: the golf course and get people fired up and do 666 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: things a little differently than most professional golfers. And I 667 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: think that over time, he's maturing as a human being 668 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: and he's also maturing as a golfer. And I think 669 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,479 Speaker 2: they all came together last week and I think that Live, 670 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: more than anything, and this PGA Tour Live ridiculous spat 671 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: back and forth has made the major championships, Claude bigger. 672 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: They've made them better, They've made them bigger. And that's 673 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 2: why the major championships are not getting involved in misfight. 674 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: They keep inviting Joake Neman too, Augusta Taylor, Goots and 675 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: a couple of guys at the PGA. It's going to 676 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: continue because the majors are small. They know Claude that 677 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: the fight between the PGA Tour and Live is only 678 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: elevating their events because their events are the only ones 679 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: that Bryson and Brooks and Dustin and Cam and all 680 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: these guys get to play against the guys on the 681 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: PGA Tour. And it was a win win for everybody 682 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: last week, but Bryson was the show. Alexander stole the 683 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: show by winning, but Bryson was the show over the 684 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: course of the weekend, especially on Sunday. Man it was 685 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: just fun to watch them out to compete again. 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The Travelers Championship there is only one you mentioned, 695 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: you know, the majors. I mean because to me, in 696 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: this whole kind of PGA Tour live thing that we've 697 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: all been involved with over the last couple of years, 698 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: the majors to me hold all the cards, but they're 699 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: the ones that can say, listen, you guys fight this out. 700 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: I thought that Seth Wall and the PGA, you know, 701 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: inviting some of the live guys was a good thing. Listen. 702 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: I think at this point, if I keep saying this, 703 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: if you're anti live and PROPGA Tour at this point 704 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, with all the evidence and all 705 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: the information that's out there, you're doing that strictly for 706 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: your own reasons. Right. If you're ANTIPGA Tour and you 707 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: fiercely live and you're you're one of those, well you're 708 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: doing that for your own reasons as well. Right the game, 709 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: I think we are seeing that the narrative that going 710 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: to live means you can't play anymore. I think this 711 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: is the second year in a row where we've had 712 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: a live player almost win a major championship and come 713 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: in second. Happened at the Masters last year when Brooks 714 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: finished second to John Rahm. He went on to win 715 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 1: a major, you know, a couple weeks later. But again, 716 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: there is still a narrative out there that if you 717 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: go to live it only prepares you for three round 718 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: tournaments and stuff. I think we are seeing that golf 719 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: is golf and the other thing. Sandy and I said 720 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: this to my dad last week when I had him 721 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: on the pot as well. There is an eye test 722 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 1: in golf that those of us and this isn't an 723 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: arrogance thing that I'm saying that we go, but those 724 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: of us that are around these players day in day out, 725 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: week in week out, year after year, as much time 726 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: as we spend around the professional game, there is an 727 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: eye test. You know who the good players are, regardless 728 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: of where they play, right, And I think now more 729 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: than ever is there is going to be an eye 730 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: test because I don't see I mean, I don't see 731 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: anything happening anytime soon. I mean I think next year 732 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: at this time, we're still going to be talking about 733 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: whether there's a merger or not. But I do think 734 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: that when you see players and you look at their 735 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: results and you look at whether they've been winning, how 736 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: they've been playing, there, to me, there's an eye test. 737 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: And Bryson D. Chambeau, regardless of whether he's playing live 738 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: or not, Bryston D. Shambau is one of the best 739 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: players of the world. 740 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know where he was in 741 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: the official World Golf ranking coming into the PGA, and. 742 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: It's thirty five now, but I think he was in 743 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: the hundreds before, so he jumped I mean for thirty five. 744 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: First of all, he's not the thirty fifth best player 745 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: in the world. Second of all, he's not in the hundreds. Okay, 746 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: So the Official World Golf Ranking is clearly a little 747 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 2: bit skewed because of what's going on with LIB. But 748 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 2: to me, the most important factor right now, if I 749 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: was a live player, is the clock is ticket. The 750 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 2: clock is ticking for them, because if the Official World 751 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 2: Golf Ranking is not going to recognize live and it 752 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: continues to keep the players out of the major championships. 753 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: For the guys like Bryson, who won the US Open 754 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, next year is his last year of 755 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: those five years twenty one, two, three, four five, So 756 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 2: he's going to have to have these top four finishes 757 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: to get back into these majors after next year's four 758 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: major championships, as long as he doesn't win one of 759 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 2: the next two or winning one in twenty twenty five. 760 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: So to me, you know, I mean, I don't see 761 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 2: it coming together anytime soon either. I don't know, I 762 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: have no intel on that, but I think both sides 763 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: are kind of you know, thinking one thing and thinking 764 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 2: another thing on one side and vice versa. And I 765 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: think they're pretty far apart as far as coming together, 766 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: but as far as the guys on Live and the 767 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: guys on the tour coming together and playing in these 768 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: big events, the majors, Man Claude, you said it. The 769 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 2: majors could end this that they wanted to. They sure 770 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 2: majors wanted to end it. They could just say hey, sorry, 771 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: not coming. But they're not doing that because it benefits 772 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: that And I don't blame them whatsoever. I think this 773 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: is the PGA Tour and lives fight. I do not 774 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: think the major championships are going to get involved anytime soon. 775 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: To put this aside. 776 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: Fred Ridley, who's the chairman at Augusta Nashvill and his 777 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: press conference, said, this is an invitational. There always a 778 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: criteria to be you know that they have for players 779 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: top fifty in the world and stuff like that. But 780 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: the Masters has always been an invite. I mean every 781 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: year the players that get invited, you know, they get 782 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: their they post on social they get an invite, they 783 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: get you are invited to the tournament. So there isn't 784 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: anything stopping the major championships from saying, listen, we're going 785 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: to have a criteria for our tournaments. There's four of 786 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: them a year, and these are the people that we 787 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 1: are going to allow to play. 788 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 2: I will say, Claude, I do think if it goes 789 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 2: beyond next year, Okay, if it does go beyond next year, 790 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: I can see one of the majors. I don't know 791 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 2: which one, but I could see one of the majors going, Okay, 792 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: clearly they're not going to settle this argument, so we 793 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 2: are going to have to do something to ensure that 794 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: our field is going to be the best it can be. 795 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: So maybe I could see one of the majors going 796 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: two or four of the top live earners who are 797 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: not already exempt for our events will be exact. I 798 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: could see that happening. I don't think it's going to 799 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: happen in the next two major championships, but it could 800 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: happen in twenty twenty five. And I could definitely see 801 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: it happening in twenty twenty six if this is still 802 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: going on, as you said, a year from now, because 803 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 2: they don't want to, you know, look, the PGA Championship, 804 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: Caluse understands you don't have Bryson there last week. Well, 805 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean, what are we looking at here? You know, 806 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: I mean, Xander's a great player, but you need to 807 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 2: have a tet, do tet. You can't have, you know, 808 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: just one person doing it. So, like I said, a 809 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: villain in sports can sometimes be a great, great thing. 810 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: And I don't mean that in a bad way. I 811 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: mean a lovable villain. I used to love watching VJ 812 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: Sing play. He was a villain to Tiger. Duvall with 813 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: the glasses was a little bit of a villain. You know. 814 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 2: Nicolson was out there doing his thing, Ernie Elis was 815 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: doing his thing. Tiger's doing his thing. But you know, 816 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 2: you get a little Patrick Reid in the mix in 817 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: the late twenty tens, you know, riling people up. That's 818 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 2: a good thing for sports. You know, you can't have 819 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: Rory mister nice guy at Hazel team and not have 820 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: Patrick Reed on the other side, you know, pretending to 821 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: be Captain America. You can't just be one side. That's 822 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: how sports works. So it was great to see bryceon 823 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: And the PGA of America understands that Claude. So does 824 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 2: the RNA, so does Augusta National, and so does the USGA. 825 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: You take away these guys after one or two more 826 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: years and they're literally no longer in the major championships. 827 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 2: That's bad for the majors. Then they'll start getting more involved. 828 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned Rory McElroy finished twelfth Big News last week, 829 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, off the golf course in his personal life, 830 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: but it's ten years now since he won his last major. 831 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: In the last major he won was at Valhalla, a 832 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: dominant performance at Quail Hollow the week before. I mean, 833 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 1: there's just no way he can't win another major. There's 834 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: just no way. The guy is just I mean what 835 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: he did at Quail Hollow. You know this. There are 836 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: players and then there are players that do what Rory 837 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: did at Quaija. I said to him on the range, 838 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,479 Speaker 1: there isn't anybody in the game currently that can put 839 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: the foot on the gas and just sprint away like 840 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: he can't. He did that at Quail Hollow. He's in 841 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: the final group with Xander and just puts the hammer 842 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: down and wins, going away making it look easy. He 843 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: goes to Valhalla where he's won a major before. It's 844 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: the last majors one has. You know, it's been ten years. 845 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: The stance where We talked about this when you were 846 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: on We had you on the podcast. Last year, Rory 847 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: took the mantle and took the role as being the 848 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: PGA Tours spokesperson. Now we're seeing a little bit more 849 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: of the diplomatic Rory. He's got some issues obviously off 850 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: the golf course, but there's still two majors left. What 851 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: does he have to do, Sanzy to win one? Because 852 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't design a golfer better than Rory McElroy's, like you, 853 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: honestly you couldn't. I mean think about what you what 854 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: would you design better? I mean other than the fact 855 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: that maybe he needs to be six two or six three, 856 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's the only thing that you would design differently. 857 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 2: I mean the only thing this is year realm, not mine. 858 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 2: The only thing that I think he truly needs is sharpen. 859 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: The wedge play, the short iron play, the proximity to 860 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 2: the hole is he giving himself? You know, when these 861 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: guys are eight to twelve feet versus twelve to eighteen feet, 862 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: the difference percentage wise, you know, you could go down 863 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 2: that rabbit hole. But my gosh, when when Rory is 864 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: playing well, I still think he's the best player, and 865 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 2: that includes Scotty Shaffler, But he hasn't done it in 866 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: ten years at a major. He has done it plenty 867 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 2: of times since then at non majors, and that of 868 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 2: players as well. He's also performed well in the Ryder Cup. 869 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 2: In a pressure ized situation like that, it's impossible to 870 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,919 Speaker 2: think that he's not going to win another major. Impossible. 871 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 2: Quail Hollo, by the way, host of PGA next year, 872 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: in case you're wondering, he's won there four times. So 873 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, man, is there something missing 874 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: from his game? No? Is there something missing from the 875 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: way he approaches it. No, he just hasn't gotten there, 876 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 2: not yet, not in the last ten years. But you 877 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 2: have to think it's gonna happen. So to me, you 878 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 2: got to get off to a good start, because he's 879 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: gotten off to shaky starts. But he got off to 880 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: a good start, a decent start on Thursday at the PG. 881 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 2: I think Xander just kind of ran over the rest 882 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: of that field with that sixty two. But you know, 883 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 2: there's no reason at all, Claude that he doesn't perform 884 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 2: well at Pinehurst. He's already wonted an Open championship, that 885 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: would have been the one. You would think that he 886 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 2: would of one. He's probably the most Americanized European player 887 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 2: who's ever played on the PGA Tour, growing up in 888 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 2: the Tiger era. He hits the ball, high, hits the 889 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: ball far, hits with lands and softs. It's not like 890 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 2: he's running it out there, you know, like traditional European 891 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 2: players before him. So there's nothing holding him back, Lad, 892 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: there's nothing. How could he not win another major championship. 893 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 2: It's absurd to think that he could not. I still 894 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 2: think when he's playing his best, he is the best. 895 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 2: And I agree with you that he's the only person 896 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 2: in golf today. Although Scotty won by five at the Masters, 897 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: one by five at the Players, so he can. He 898 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: can sprint out there like secretary and leave everybody in 899 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 2: their dust as well. So I put Scotty in that 900 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 2: category with Rory as far as being able to run 901 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 2: away and hide. But those are the only two right now. 902 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: In fourteen, when he won his fourth major at Valhalla 903 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: ten years ago, how many did you think he'd have 904 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: by twenty twenty four? 905 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 2: Oh God, I thought no fordigious first, I thought for 906 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 2: Or he was going to get to ten. I did 907 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: not think he was gonna get to eighteen. I didn't 908 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 2: think he was going to get to Tigers fourteen at 909 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 2: the time he won his fifteenth and twenty nineteen. But 910 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to crap up on double 911 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 2: digits because at the time I thought, Okay, he's gonna 912 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 2: win a Masters, and he's going to clip off a 913 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: PGA at a US Open and Open somewhere, and then 914 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's gonna end up with eight 915 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: nine or ten. But I also thought, and I don't 916 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 2: know what you thought. Maybe you and I talked about 917 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: this after he won a Valhalla in twenty fourteen. That 918 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: was his second PGA, so he had won the twenty 919 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 2: fourteen Open, okay, And after he won the Open in 920 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, he then needed the Masters to win the 921 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: career Grand Slam. To me, that's the most difficult of 922 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: the four. Only Gene Sarah's in in thirty five did 923 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 2: it had no offense to the Squire. We loved the Squire, 924 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 2: but the Masters wasn't quite the Masters in nineteen thirty five. 925 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 2: So as it's gotten farther and farther away away from him, 926 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: it's gotten more and more difficult for him at Augusta, 927 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 2: and I thought at the time, I'm going to give 928 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 2: him five chances to win the Masters, and it's well 929 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: beyond five. So you know, I hope I'm wrong, and 930 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 2: I hope he wins it, and I hope he becomes 931 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 2: the sixth player to win the career Grand Slam Claude. 932 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 2: But it's impossible to me to think that he hasn't 933 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 2: won a PGA or a US opener and opened since then, 934 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 2: the open at St. Andrew's, I mean, you know PGA's 935 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 2: US Opens. I mean, come on, man, how does he 936 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 2: not have more than four majors. It's just incredible. And 937 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: if he does win one, you know, he might just 938 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: walk off and say see it. But if he wins 939 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 2: another one, but I hope he keeps going because it's 940 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: just impossible to me to think that he has not 941 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: won at least a fifth, sixth or seventh major by now. 942 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 943 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: Victor hovlin Vic gave us a little insight. Vic said 944 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't even gonna play, thinking about not even playing 945 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: last week and git on the back nine, I mean 946 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: toe for toe with Xander with Bryson. Vix joined the 947 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: Floridian where I'm a member out. I've watched Vic over 948 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: the last offseason. You know, coach, different coaches, trying different stuff. 949 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: Said he wasn't playing good. He was working with Joe Mayo. 950 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 1: He rinses Joe Mao. He goes to Grant Waite, rinses 951 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: Grant wait goes back to Dana Dalkquist, rinses Daarkuist. And 952 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: then Monday, Tuesday, Wait, Victim his his caddy, Shaye Knight. 953 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: You know Shay very well. I saw Shay on Wednesday. 954 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, where's your boy. He's like, oh, 955 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: he's not getting it till tonight. He's in Vegas. So 956 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: he flies out, works with Joe Mayo again and then 957 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,439 Speaker 1: lights it up. I mean just lights it up. Three 958 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: sixty six is in a sixty eight and had a 959 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,959 Speaker 1: putt on the last hole to to get to twenty under. 960 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: I think that Victor Hoblin. I might text him at 961 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: after we're done two eight one seven. Oh wait, I 962 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 2: don't want to give out your number here on the podcast. 963 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 2: But he needs to call Claude Harmon and he needs 964 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 2: to needs to get Claude Harmon involved. And then all 965 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 2: of a sudden he'll get. 966 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: To the face just to quit. He needs to quit 967 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: messing around with his golf swing. I said that to 968 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: his caddy. I said, listen, mate, and I'm jokingly I 969 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: said it. I said, listen, we've we've watched this, right. 970 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: The guy won the FedEx Cup in October and now 971 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: he's thinking in May of not even playing. And this 972 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: game sansy in an effort and we have seen this, 973 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: in an effort to try and get better, in an 974 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 1: effort to try and get to the next level and 975 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: do the right thing. You can fuck it up and 976 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: go backwards, and sometimes it cannot be repairable because you've 977 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: lost what you had. And I think Vic at the 978 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: end of last year, I thought he was the best 979 00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,959 Speaker 1: player in the world. I didn't think, you know, Speci 980 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: after the Writer Cup. I couldn't. There wasn't anybody playing 981 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: better golf than him to win the FedEx the way 982 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: he played in the Writer Cup. And it's a delicate 983 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: balance of if you're going to come in and you know, 984 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: if you win a Super Bowl and you're going to 985 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: fire every coach and change schemes and go from a 986 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: running team to a pack. I mean, it can go 987 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 1: south on you if if you don't, And I hope 988 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 1: that Vic we're seeing that this is now the resurgence 989 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: of him going Okay, let me go back to what 990 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 1: I was doing that helped me get to the level 991 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: that I was at and maybe not mess around with 992 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:36,919 Speaker 1: it so much. 993 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Xander switching coaches and messing around 994 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: with his swing and then winning the PG is not 995 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 2: going to help that argument. I agree with that, but 996 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 2: I think it's a copycat league. You know, players look 997 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 2: at other players and go, let me try that, you know, 998 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And for Victor, I think Victor's 999 00:55:54,440 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: mind needs to keep spinning and needs to keep moving forward. 1000 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 2: You know, it takes a certain personality to be Adam 1001 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: Scott and never change your golf swing, not that you'd 1002 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 2: ever need to because it's so aesthetically beautiful, but he's 1003 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 2: never changed it. You know, Tiger swing was seemingly perfect 1004 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he changed it, you know, 1005 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 2: and change it multiple times. So you know, Victor's just 1006 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 2: he has one of those personalities. I love Victor, I 1007 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 2: love being around him. He's a terrific kid. He's got 1008 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: so much game. I was so happy to see him 1009 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: playing well. I was hoping he was going to make 1010 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: that putt because it was going to be a playoff. 1011 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: Let's make it a three way playoff, not a two 1012 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 2: way playoff. But I don't know. It's I think Victor 1013 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 2: has the opportunity to be a top five player consistently 1014 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 2: over the course of the next fifteen years. But he 1015 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: might need to pick a side. He might need to 1016 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 2: pick what side he wants to take. And it's it's 1017 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 2: it's not easy to be that great and to have 1018 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: the personality that says, okay, got to keep improving, got 1019 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 2: to keep doing this, got to keep doing this. I'll 1020 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,919 Speaker 2: tell you what he has done. I mean, first of all, 1021 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: you've been around him. He's a wonderful guy. I love him. 1022 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's amazing. How about the improvement he's 1023 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 2: made with his chipping and pitching. 1024 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he did with Joe Mayo. I 1025 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: mean he's he was a fifteen handicapper. I mean he was. 1026 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 2: He was bad when Dustin Johnson had trouble with his 1027 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 2: chipping and pitching, and he improved it to the point 1028 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 2: where all of a sudden, You're like, man, these guys 1029 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: work so hard on their game. I understand the fluidity 1030 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 2: of it and wanting to keep improving. I don't understand. 1031 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 2: I've asked Tiger this, I've asked every player this. Why 1032 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 2: do you want to keep changing everything so much? Why 1033 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 2: not just tweak here and there? You know, It's not 1034 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 2: as if a shooter in the NBA, a guy who's 1035 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, has a jump shot in the NBA, is 1036 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 2: going to completely change his stroke just because he has 1037 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 2: two bad games. The NFL. You don't change your throwing 1038 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: motion just because you throw a couple of picks a 1039 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 2: couple of games in a row, so the full fledge changes. 1040 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't understand the tweaking. Totally understand that Victor's a great, 1041 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 2: great player. It was awesome to see him play well again, 1042 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 2: and hopefully that puts him in the headspace moving forward 1043 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 2: that's going to allow him to just continue to be 1044 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: a great player. I feel like sometimes he gets in 1045 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 2: his own way. I don't know that for a fact, 1046 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 2: you would maybe more than me, But sometimes guys like him, 1047 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, with that personality, they get in their own way. 1048 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 2: They're just so great, there's such geniuses of what they do. 1049 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 2: They feel like they have to keep improving and sometimes 1050 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 2: they get in their own way. 1051 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: Lastly, Sansy, it's tough to watch tw man. It's tough 1052 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: to watch Tiger and every time he plays it's the 1053 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: same thing. He shot sixty two in the practice round 1054 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: and lit it up in the practice round and stuff. 1055 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, we're still going to see Tiger 1056 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: hit great shots. We're still going to see because he's 1057 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: still a great player. But I just don't know if 1058 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: we're going to see Tiger play great if he can't 1059 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: play more. I mean he I mean, he said that 1060 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: in his press conference on Sunday or on Friday when 1061 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: he missed a cut. He needs, he needs to play more, 1062 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: but he can't play more because of the body. And 1063 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: it is you know this. When he is on the range, 1064 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: you feel it. When he walks onto the range, you 1065 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: feel it. There is an energy. When he is on 1066 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: property at a tournament, it's a different feel. When he's 1067 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: getting ready to tee off, it's a different feel. The 1068 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: morning wave. If Tiger's in the morning wave on Thursday Friday, 1069 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: it's it's different. If he's in the afternoon wave, it's different. 1070 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: You guys televise it differently. When he's going to be 1071 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: playing but it is. I can't imagine. You know him, 1072 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: I know him. I can't imagine how frustrat this must 1073 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: be for him. For as much as he still wants 1074 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: to play, and for as great as he was, it's 1075 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: got to be killing him. Not being able to play 1076 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: more and playing like he's playing to kill. 1077 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 2: It's got to be killing him. It's just got to 1078 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: be so frustrating. When you're that competitive and you've been 1079 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 2: that great, to not be able to do it at 1080 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 2: the level you're accustomed to has got to be incredibly frustrating. 1081 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 2: I thought the the the press conference at the Master's 1082 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Claude and the press conference at the PGA were there 1083 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 2: were stark differences there, subtle but stark differences. When he 1084 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 2: was asked at Augusta, when he was on the podium 1085 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 2: on Tuesday before the Masters, why do you keep doing this? 1086 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 2: Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Why do 1087 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 2: you keep getting after it? And he just kind of 1088 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 2: smiles that I love the game. I love to compete 1089 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I wouldn't be here if I 1090 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 2: didn't think I had a chance to win. I wouldn't 1091 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 2: do this if I didn't think I could still win. 1092 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 2: I totally one hundred percent believe him. I do, I 1093 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 2: really do. I don't think he's snowing anybody on that 1094 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Fast forward four weeks the Tuesday before the PGA Championship 1095 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 2: tempered expectations. We'll have to wait and see how it goes. 1096 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 2: That kind of stuff. It wasn't the same conviction, and 1097 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 2: it makes me wonder does he have it just an 1098 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 2: inkling in his brain where he's thinking, I don't know 1099 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 2: if I keep doing this against the best players in 1100 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 2: the world who are playing three out of every four 1101 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 2: weeks or two out of every four weeks on tour 1102 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 2: or on live or wherever they're playing in golf, and 1103 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,919 Speaker 2: they practice every day, and they work out every day, 1104 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 2: and they hit balls, and they chip and pitch and 1105 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 2: they put and all the things that I used to 1106 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 2: do every single day to make me the best player 1107 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 2: of my generation. He can't do those anymore. Claude, and 1108 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 2: the guys he's playing against they do. They're twenty to 1109 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 2: twenty five years younger than he is. They are incredibly 1110 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 2: accomplished major champions because he no longer has that vacuum 1111 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 2: and sucked out all the air of every major championship, 1112 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 2: and these guys now have the grit, the game, the 1113 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 2: experience and the moxie to play every single week. And 1114 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 2: you know, it's tough to watch him not play well. 1115 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 2: It's tough to watch him struggle, although I didn't see 1116 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 2: him limping, you know at the PGA, which I thought 1117 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 2: was great, but not severely. But it's tough. Man. Like 1118 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,479 Speaker 2: you said, as a sports fan, you want to watch 1119 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 2: the best players play their best. You want to see 1120 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 2: one of the great quotes I've ever heard from Rendez Barber, 1121 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame cornerback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 1122 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 2: All you want in life is to be the best 1123 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 2: of yourself when it matters most. And Tiger can't do 1124 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 2: that right now. Doesn't mean he can't do it at Pinehurst, 1125 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 2: doesn't mean he can't do it at Royal Troon, but 1126 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 2: it sure doesn't look like it right now that he 1127 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 2: can go four days including a practice round or who 1128 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 2: with nine holes before that? Can he do it all 1129 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 2: four days physically and not being as razor sharp as 1130 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 2: you normally would be because you're only playing once a month. 1131 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 2: You know that difference, The difference between me and you 1132 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 2: being in a golf cart with Brooks Koepka and Dustin 1133 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Johnson with a couple of beers in our cart, telling 1134 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 2: stories and playing a practice around and hanging out at 1135 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 2: home at the grove at the Floridian. That's a lot 1136 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 2: different than being inside the ropes at Pinehurst, and it 1137 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: just is a wholly different deal. So I don't know 1138 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: if Tiger's going to be able to do it. I'm 1139 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 2: never going to count him out, but it sure hasn't 1140 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 2: looked great in his first two major championships. 1141 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 1: What do you think at this point, Sansey? The motivation 1142 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: is then, because obviously. 1143 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 2: To win we judged. 1144 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 1: We judge Tiger off of a lens that you don't 1145 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: judge anyone off of. It's not like Michael Jordan kept 1146 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: playing at this stage of his career, right, it was 1147 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 1: over by this point, right, mj was done. So when 1148 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 1: we look back at Michael's career, we never really got 1149 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to see him in this Tiger phase of his career 1150 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: to where he's showing up at tournaments and he's not 1151 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: playing well, And it's just I just don't understand how 1152 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: much longer he would want to do this. Knowing him 1153 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 1: the way that I know, he is the most competitive 1154 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: human being I've ever met ever, right, and this has 1155 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: got to be killing him for him to go out 1156 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: and play the way he's playing, And I just wonder, 1157 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: why does he want to keep doing it? 1158 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 2: None of us will ever understand what it's like to 1159 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 2: be Tiger Woods. It's impossible to know. Even those of 1160 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 2: us who are around him on the periphery like we are, 1161 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 2: it's impossible to know exactly what it's like to be 1162 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. I agree with everything you just said, especially 1163 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 2: the part with why, Like, at what point is he 1164 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 2: going to say, Yeah, this is just killing me and 1165 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 2: I just for me to tie for forty seventh if 1166 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 2: I make a cut, or for me to struggle to 1167 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 2: make a cut, or for me to miss a cut. 1168 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 2: It's just not who I am. It's not who I've been. 1169 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 2: And at some point he's going to come to the 1170 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: realization and he's just going to say, you know what, 1171 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore because I'm just 1172 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 2: not good enough to do it. I'm not healthy enough 1173 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 2: to do it. And that's a brutal thing to find 1174 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 2: out in sports. If I was an athlete, if I 1175 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 2: was Tiger, I would play as long as I could. 1176 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 2: You never know when lightning's going to strike and you 1177 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 2: can put four days together, but you do conjure up 1178 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 2: these images of Joe Namath playing for the Rams and 1179 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: Willie May's playing for the Mets, and you're like, yeesh, Now, 1180 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 2: no one's going to think about this part of his 1181 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 2: career and not the fifteen major wins in the eighty 1182 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 2: two regular PGA Tour victories pg R Tour victories. With 1183 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: eighty two, no one's going to think, oh, you know 1184 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 2: this and the other thing. But it is tough to 1185 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 2: watch as a sports fan, as someone who's been around 1186 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 2: him for twenty five years. You know, I just want 1187 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 2: him to be happy, and if this is making him happy, 1188 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 2: go ahead. But like you, I would have to think 1189 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 2: it's probably more frustrating than anything else. I mean, he 1190 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 2: can't compete against the best players in the most pressurized situation, 1191 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 2: against full fields at major championship venues which have the 1192 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 2: most difficult setups. Save for what happened last week with 1193 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 2: the scoring in Valhalla, you're asking a lot to have 1194 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 2: majors be the only time you play golf. Is he 1195 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 2: going to play the Memorial claud and then the US Open? 1196 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know he didn't play Bayhill or 1197 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: the players before playing the Masters. That had to have hurt. 1198 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: You know. You know that prep is everything, man, and 1199 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 2: you just can't compete against these guys. These guys are 1200 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 2: playing golf every day of their lives, getting ready for 1201 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 2: these big events. They're healthy, hungry, ready to go. Golfs 1202 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: are only focus. You know, Tiger's got kids, he's injured, 1203 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 2: he can't play as much as he used to, he 1204 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 2: can't practice much as he used to. He's forty eight 1205 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: years old, his body is sore, and he's got a 1206 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 2: lot going on. I mean, it's just it's just really 1207 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 2: really difficult. 1208 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we will see four good rounds put together. 1209 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: I'd just like to see him put together four good rounds. No, 1210 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: and listen, I mean he played four rounds at the Masters, 1211 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 1: but on the weekend. I mean, you know that he's 1212 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: just basically trying to get through the round. It would 1213 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: be amazing to see Tiger shoot, You're just somewhere four 1214 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: rounds in the sixties, finish twentieth, you know, and not 1215 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: have those not have it be Is he going to finish? 1216 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: Is he going to make the cut? I mean, because 1217 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: to me, that's That's the sad thing right now, is 1218 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean us open. The narrative is got to be okay, 1219 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: does he first of all, can he finish? And can't 1220 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 1: he make the cut? And that's not where I think 1221 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: I want to see Tiger Woods playing. I just don't 1222 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: want to see that. I don't want to see that. 1223 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you if you believe that the smart people 1224 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 2: out in the Nevada Desert know what they're talking about, 1225 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 2: and they usually do, because the last time I saw 1226 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 2: a casino close was never so not in Nevada anyway. 1227 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,640 Speaker 2: And he was minus two thirty five to miss the 1228 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 2: cut at the PGA. Okay, for those who aren't in 1229 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 2: the gambling world, that's a pretty heavy favorite, which means 1230 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 2: that they think it's going to happen. Pretty heavy favorite 1231 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 2: that he's going to miss the cut. That's at the 1232 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 2: PGA now, if he doesn't have a start before Piners, Pineers, 1233 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 2: I would assume would have a little bit more of 1234 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 2: a difficult setup than the PGA, especially Vahalla last week 1235 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 2: because of all the rain and the moisture. So what 1236 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 2: are the odds going to be at Pinehurst to make 1237 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 2: the cut? You know, it's it's tough man. It's Tiger Woods, Claude, 1238 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. We shouldn't be talking about can he make 1239 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 2: the cut or not? We should be talking about Kenny 1240 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 2: win or not. That's it. And if Tier wants to 1241 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 2: continue doing this, totally his prerogative. It's great seeing him 1242 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 2: out there, Fans love seeing him out there. But if 1243 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 2: he wants to continue to punish himself in this regard, 1244 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: I just would be surprised if he keeps going on 1245 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: and on like this. I just can't imagine that he's 1246 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 2: okay going out there and being someone who's looked upon, 1247 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 2: is whether he going to make the cut or not, 1248 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 2: and basically being a ceremonial golfer. He said for years 1249 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 2: he wouldn't be that, but currently right now it looks 1250 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 2: like he is. And I you know, he can do 1251 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 2: whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned. It's just 1252 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 2: great seeing him out there, but I just can't imagine 1253 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 2: how often he's going to keep putting him out there, 1254 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 2: putting himself out there and having these types of results. 1255 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Well, and the amazing thing is, I mean the short 1256 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: game that he's showing us. I mean, if he didn't 1257 01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: have a short if he didn't have a short game. 1258 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,719 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no telling what some of these scores 1259 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: would because the way some of the shots he hit 1260 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: at Augusta were unbelievable. And you can see him in 1261 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: his practice sessions. I think the golf swing Sansy looks 1262 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: like what he can do. I think he's figured out 1263 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 1: a way that he can move in a way that 1264 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: he can swing the golf club. But I watched him 1265 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 1: go over to the short game area during one of 1266 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 1: the warm ups, and you're watching the short game and 1267 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 1: you're watching how he does things, and it's still like 1268 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 1: watching Picasso paint. I mean, the guy's short game is 1269 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:34,480 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. 1270 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't that make sense? You're the instructor, not me. Doesn't 1271 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 2: that make sense? You know, with his body and how 1272 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: sore he is and how beat up his body is, 1273 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 2: the thing he can work on the most is a 1274 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 2: short game because he's not doing the full swings. The 1275 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 2: full swings are the ones that he's gonna have the 1276 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: most difficult with. 1277 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, now, listen, the short game still looks amazing. 1278 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: It's just you know, he was such a great champion. 1279 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to be around owned for kind 1280 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: of the Butch harmon Tiger era. I mean, I saw 1281 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 1: it all. And I always say this about Tiger. As 1282 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 1: good as people think he was, he was better. He's 1283 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: one of these people that because a lot of this 1284 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: younger generation of guys never really saw it. They never 1285 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: saw it up close. They didn't know what it was like, 1286 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: they didn't know what the tournaments were like. So when 1287 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 1: I look at Tiger now, it's upsetting to me to 1288 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 1: watch because I got to watch Tiger in the day 1289 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 1: and it was so much better than people remember. He 1290 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: was so much better. It's just crazy to see how 1291 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: his body just won't let him do what he wants 1292 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: to do. And I just think that's gotta be that's 1293 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: gotta be killing him. 1294 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,839 Speaker 2: Oh, it's got to be killing him. He was literally 1295 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 2: the definition of intimidating. He was intimidating to players when 1296 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 2: he walked onto the range. He was intimidating when he 1297 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 2: was in the locker room. He was intimidating when you 1298 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 2: were on the practice putting green. And let me tell 1299 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 2: you something. I've had players tell me this before. Claude. 1300 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 2: It's one of the coolest things ever. Whether you're watching 1301 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,839 Speaker 2: on TV or you're lucky enough to be there in person. 1302 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 2: The coolest thing when Tiger's playing on the first tee 1303 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,720 Speaker 2: when he gets announced. Most guys get announced. Now on 1304 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 2: the tee from Jupiter, Florida. Here's Claude Harmon, now on 1305 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 2: the t from Washington, d C. Here's Steve Sands now 1306 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 2: on the tee the nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, two 1307 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 2: thousand six. You just keep going, thousand and seven, You 1308 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 2: just keep going. You're gonna miss your tea time because 1309 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 2: his announcement is so long, and he is literally the 1310 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 2: most intimidating golfer who's ever played the sport. You could 1311 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,799 Speaker 2: argue whether he's the greatest of all time, you cannot 1312 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 2: argue that he was an intimidating force out there. And 1313 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 2: by the way, when he still comes to an event, 1314 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 2: even if it's only once a month or once every 1315 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: couple of months, when he comes to an event, it's 1316 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 2: a whole different happening. Man. He completely changes the temperature 1317 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 2: when he walks onto the grounds, no matter where he goes. 1318 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 2: It's amazing, it is. 1319 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 1: It is fascinating to feel and to see. 1320 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 2: He's earned it, though he's earned every second. Tiger too much, 1321 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 2: You show him too much, show nobody shows him too much, 1322 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 2: because guess what. The first thing anybody asked when they 1323 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: don't see the golf is what Tiger shoot today? The 1324 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 2: second thing they ask is who's leading? It's always Tiger first, 1325 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 2: and then who's leading. It's never the other way around. 1326 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 2: For anybody who says that TV shows him too much, 1327 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 2: or podcasts or radio or newspapers talk or write about 1328 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 2: him too much, you're wrong, man. He's earned every second 1329 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 2: of that one hundred percent. 1330 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 1: And listen, it's still great to see him. And it's 1331 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 1: still great. I mean, he actually said hi to me, 1332 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 1: which is you're normally he's kind of in the zone, 1333 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,679 Speaker 1: and you you know, I've non listen, I've known Tiger forever. 1334 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,960 Speaker 1: But he's one of those He's one of those human 1335 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: beings that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna talk to 1336 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 1: him unless you know, you just don't. He's just got that. 1337 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: He there is an intimidation factor to this day. So 1338 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 1: I was standing on the putting green and he was 1339 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: putting near DJ was hitting some putts and everything, and 1340 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 1: he walked right past me and he shook his hand down. 1341 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,160 Speaker 1: He goes, hey, bro, what's up man, Good to see 1342 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 1: you he gave me a little hug and everything, and 1343 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: I was just like, I was surprised because normally, you know, 1344 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't really say much, and so. 1345 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 2: I speak to he speaks first. 1346 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you definitely don't speak first. Like I said, 1347 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 1: I'd never in a million years be standing on a 1348 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 1: putting green and engage conversation with him. I just and 1349 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 1: like I said, I used to used to stay at 1350 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: our house. He used to pick him up from the airport. 1351 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: I've known him since he was sixteen years old. But 1352 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: the intimidation thing that you said in the persona that 1353 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 1: he still has is he is this type of character 1354 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 1: to where I would never think of just walking up 1355 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: to him and saying hi to him. I just, I 1356 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: just I just wouldn't do it. 1357 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 2: I hope he wins the US Senior Open, so that 1358 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 2: he has a US Senior Open, a US Open, a 1359 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 2: US Amateur, and a US Junior. He'd be the first 1360 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 2: one ever to do it right. 1361 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 1: He'd be amazing. Sansy always great talking to you. We 1362 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 1: said this the last time. One of the downsides of 1363 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 1: all this turmoil is there are a lot of people 1364 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: that we don't get to see as often as we 1365 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 1: used to so great. Great to talk to you, and 1366 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,520 Speaker 1: I will look forward to seeing you at the US Open. 1367 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Seeing Pineers. Let's make sure we make some time to 1368 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 2: raise a glass. 1369 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 1: You got a power. Good to talk to you, but 1370 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: be good. So some great takes there from Steve Sands, 1371 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 1: and we got through a lot. But I think the 1372 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 1: performance from Xander, all the things that Scotti Scheffler went 1373 01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: through last week, Bryson, there were a lot of good storylines. 1374 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: But I agree with with with Sandy. It was great 1375 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,799 Speaker 1: to see all the best players in the world back together. 1376 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 1: You can argue listen, I'm done with the arguments, but 1377 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I think the Majors we talked about it. The Majors 1378 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: are the place where you're going to see all of 1379 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: the players from all the various tours around the world. 1380 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,719 Speaker 1: I hope that continues. Hopefully the governing bodies realize that 1381 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 1: they have the power and to showcase the best players 1382 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: in the world if they so choose. And I think 1383 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that are thinking like that, 1384 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 1: and Steve Sands and myself are I am definitely one 1385 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: of those as well. Son of a Butch comes to 1386 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 1: you almost every Wednesday. We will see you next week,