1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Day to follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at adjocuslad dot com. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: Charlie is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: follow up, and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Penelope. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we're gonna call her and 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: maybe get him a second date. But first, Charlie, how 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: long has it been since you heard from Penelope? 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: Well, the ghost watch has been on for about a 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: full week now. 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 4: Oh no, nothing. Ghost watch sounds like you have a 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 4: sense of humor about it. 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean since seven days it's this twenty 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: you got to know it's I get the feeling it's 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: a decision. 16 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: Have you tried to break the no contact? Uh? 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: Not really, it's just kind of I just want to 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: kind of see what's going on. I mean, I haven't 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: really reached out, but I think that was just something 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: that may have gone wrong last time we met, and 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: maybe it led to something, and I hope it didn't. 22 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Something had to change. I just feel like something had 23 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: to change, you know. And I mean I think she's 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: a great person. I think she's a very school elegant girl. 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: You know the type of drinks herbal tea and keith 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: me plant alive emotionally, So what. 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: Did you guys do for your date? 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: Then took me to an indoor plant terrain terrarium. It's 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: my pronunciation is that she's saying terranium, but I know 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: something terrarium, right, someone where indoor plants are a workshop, 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: because it just seems like she had that vibe she had, 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: like that calm. We got a girl calm, confident, she 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: has that raspee. I read novels in bed type voice, 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: you know, ug cozy, earthy. So we were like, you know, 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: it was some botany into the business. We're at this thing, 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: so let me just say that we're at this workshop. 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: And the guide said something basically said, don't touch anything 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: behind the velvet velvet rope because some plants are just 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: toxic to skin. And that I told her that, uh 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: I know my way around foliage, like he said, as 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: smooth as I could, as confident as a kid. Reached 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: over that rope, and uh I touched a shiny leaf there. 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: I don't really know how to describe it. Too off 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: like a shiny leaf. It just looked like royalty, right, okay, 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: and so next to the sign that says like costic sap, 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: don't handle you know, but that just makes me want 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: to grab it more so. So yeah, that's why I do. 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 3: Like he told me not to do something, I want 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: to do it. I'm obsessed. So I go, I try 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: to shake my hand off of the SAT, wipe it 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: off my shirt, and then wipe it on a brush shore. 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: I wiped it on a fern and then they handed 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: me a white like wet wipes custom wipes, and uh 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: and yeah, she just had this look on her face 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: like there was this was just an absolute, uh train wreck. 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: But you know, I wanted to show her that, you know, 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: the guy who's willing to touch poison for her. 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: So you said out and touch poison for you. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was cool after. 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to get this straight. 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 5: The person that was conducting the stuff told you don't 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: touch the plants because it's it's gonna it's toxic. Then 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: on the other side of the rope there's a sign 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 5: that says don't touch the plants because it's toxic, and 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: then you touch the plants. 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: I just want to be double negative, okay, double negative. 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 5: I mean there's a chance. Yeah, there is a chance 68 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 5: that this could be the reason you're getting goes to 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 5: every day. Is amazing. 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I love it. 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: I think there was anything wrong with it because she 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: she nudged my shoulder. You know that's touch. We shared 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: a lavender tea. Oh he said she had plant enthusiasm energy. 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: Said to me that I had this energy, just plant 75 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: enthusiasm energy. We had a vibe. You don't just sip 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: hammer meal next to moss art with someone if you're 77 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: not spiritually linked. And the link is there, And one 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: minute we're breathing in you to lift this fog together, 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: which smells great, and the next minute she's gone, like 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: vera goolds. Now I'm ghosted, days lost, confused, and I 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: don't know if it's still poisoned. But oh no, like 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: it's been a week. I'm doing it fine. But yeah, 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: I just you know, she's okay, Well what what what happened? 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: Well, let's call her and find out. 85 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: We'll play a song, come back and then call her 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: and see if hotls why she's ghosting you and maybe 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: get you a second date. 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you got it, all right, we'll get your first. 89 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: Day follow up next right the middle of your first 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: date follow up and if you're just joining us, Charlie 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Penelope. 92 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: So we're about to call her and see iftas why 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: But first, before we do that, Charlie, whyn't you break 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: down your situation again real quick? 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 97 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: Met this girls very independent, had a nice vibe out there, 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: so she seemed like the type would go out to 99 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: a terrarium check out some plants. They told me not to. 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: I touched a few of them and see, you know, 101 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: things got a little weird and I just want to 102 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: know what ghosted me. 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: He sounds like a funny guy, Charlie, but also a 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: wild time. All right, are you ready for us to 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: call her? 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get it. 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: Let's all right, here we go. 108 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: Let's you think. 109 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 4: Him as speaks? Penelope? Please, Hey Penelope? How are you? 110 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: This is a radio show. It's called The Jubil Show. 111 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: Hi Penelope, I'm Nina. Hi I'm Victorian. How are you? 112 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 6: I'm okay? Wait? Are the radio show school? Okay? 113 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but we do do a segment called 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: the First Night follow up on our show. That's where 115 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: if you go on a date with someone and you 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: ghost them, that person can email us to ask why 117 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: you're ghosting them. 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: And we got an email about you from someone. 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 6: Oh interesting, Okay, this is just there, all right, gone. 120 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: So is there anybody that you can think of that 121 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: you went out with recently that you have been ghosting? 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's one guy I can think of. 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: Okay, what's his name? 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 6: His name is Charlie. 125 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: Yes, it is Charlie. 126 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: Charlie dad and told us about your dates that he 127 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: really liked you and he's wondering why you're not getting 128 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: back to him, and would you mind telling us. 129 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 6: I don't know what he told you. 130 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: But this guy touched some poisonous step and stung his 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: hand like it was very traumatizing, kind of funny, but. 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 6: It was weird. It threw me off. 133 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: And just when things are getting back on track, like 134 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: during the date, he yelled. 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 6: At this lady who was leading this date, like. 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: The events of the day and this remember he had 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: touched poisonous step. 138 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 6: So but he blamed her for not warning him about 139 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 6: the dangers of them. And I mean, you literally asked 140 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 6: to speak to a manager like a supervisor. Here's a 141 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 6: really big turn off. 142 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh, hold on, I wasn't yelling. I was advocating for 143 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: public safety. I mean, if there's stop to coly at present, 144 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: I deserve. 145 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 6: A fair warning what that action is going on right now? 146 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 6: So weird. 147 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: That's actually Charlie. He's on the other line listening and 148 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: wants to talk to you. 149 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I wasn't yelling. Okay, Oh, I was not yelling. Okay, 150 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: this is I want. I want the people to know 151 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: it was advocating for public safety. There is a bulliage 152 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: present in this small establishment. Yeah. I know there were signs, 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: but you should see how small that sign was. Like 154 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't even finish reading it until my hand was 155 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: already like an inch into the stap. I already had 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: figures in the step like a comb in the honey 157 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: when I already went I read that sign. It was 158 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: so small it should not count. I mean, what if 159 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: my hand gone dumb? What if I had lost mobility? 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: What if I kind of the T shirt shirt. 161 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Kili it tingled? Your hand literally tangled. You weren't like 162 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: trekking through the Amazon. You gently brush a shiny leaf 163 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: in a climatron like you're next to a bluetique key 164 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: there like worse. 165 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: There's a team rate there. There's like an herbarium, like 166 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 6: you can't. This wasn't the jungle. 167 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: I know you know your cheese way more than I 168 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: know te's all right. All I know about teas is 169 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: how to cross them in dots of eyes like it 170 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: could have been worse. It was risk. Okay, myceuticles were 171 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: fully exposed. 172 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: You wanted to risk, Charlie, I'm so confused. 173 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, well, yeah, I'm a ban of danger, but 174 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: I want to set an example for future skids and 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: people in my shoes to not have to run in 176 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: such terrible set Oh my god. 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Princess Betuna, it wasn't a plant staff. It's not 178 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: like it's nae palm or anything. 179 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: Geez. 180 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: She should have worn a setter. There was no urgency, none. 181 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: No, she literally said, please do not touch anything behind 182 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: the velvet rope. Some stants are toxic. Those the first 183 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: thing she said, I'm pretty sure, tell us pretty clear 184 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: that for the rest of the night. 185 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: She said it like please recycle, not like touch that 186 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: and you might lose a finger. 187 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 6: Oh my god, She's put the scream at like it 188 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: required a dramatic head talk. 189 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: Or something like somebody's just saying, don't touch something behind 190 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: a rope, literally just mean don't touch that. 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: I was actually trying to impress you because I said 192 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: I knew I was submitted. 193 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: Well, you committed for sure to a rash and basically 194 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: an apology toward the whole night. 195 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I apologize a ferd. I wiped my shirt on. Yes, shea, 196 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: it was an innocent fern had no business seeing part 197 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: of the. 198 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 6: Ride, right, you apologize to the plant before you apologize 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: to the lady that you scolded. But like that was weird. 200 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: It was a little symbolic of how you really live 201 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 6: on Well. 202 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Of course she had a dad, she was in a 203 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: position of power. She's a public figures something intridiculous. 204 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't the plant anyway, that got Blaming someone else 205 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: for your mistake is just not my vibe. I found 206 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: accountability more attractive than like lying and passing it off, 207 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: you know. 208 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: Right choice accountability. 209 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: I washed my hand, Yeah, and then you blame the 210 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: poor woman named Cheryl who just wanted to talk to 211 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: us about succulents. 212 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: Like that was the moment that I could do it anymore? 213 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 4: Would you like another date with Charlie, will pay for it. 214 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry, guys. 215 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: I really am into men who like take responsibility for 216 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: their actions, not men who choose the wage of verbal 217 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: war with the indoor garden gardening staff or other ferns 218 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: that couldn't do anything. 219 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 3: And for the record, I want you to know I 220 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: did not wage war. Okay, this was a sperm conversation 221 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: that sween responsible adults. 222 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: No, it was not. You asked for the supervisor like 223 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: some caring I'm business. That's why we're done you guys. 224 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: That was the fird's doing well. Well. 225 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 6: The friend handled everything better than you did. Charlie. Okay, 226 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 6: you will first date fall up