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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, Hello, Hello, and welcome to Good Morning Football

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Speaker 2: Live from New York City. It is Tuesday, February twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: I'm Colleen Wolf alongside Jason mccordy, and we also have

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Speaker 2: today our two quarterbacks, Ryan Live and Brian Hoyer.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling.

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Speaker 4: I'm great, excited to be back, you know, I was

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Speaker 4: here a few weeks ago before the Super Bowl, so

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Speaker 4: excited to be back with a different crew.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I replaced j McK a few weeks ago while he

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Speaker 4: was out in Vegas. So I'm happy to be on

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Speaker 4: the show with my guy right here. And obviously Ryan

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Speaker 4: the fellow quarterback, always good to see. We met it

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Speaker 4: on Christmas Day this year.

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Speaker 3: He did City.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's adorable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was calling the Kansas City Raider game and I

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Speaker 6: go down on the field, you know, before the games,

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Speaker 6: and it's so cool to get to see these guys

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Speaker 6: warming up before the game, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 6: a fan from Afar watching them being able.

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Speaker 3: To do what they do.

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Speaker 6: So that's always good to see them and do this.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 7: I'm so happy you're here.

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Speaker 8: I'm just happy, guys. Another ballheader. Yeah, that's that's what

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Speaker 8: I appreciate it. I don't care about anything else.

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Speaker 7: He's balled on ball.

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Speaker 2: We can relate, so you can get ready so much quicker.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm very envious.

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Speaker 2: Hey, maybe there will be three tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Who knows. I'm just kidding, all right.

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Speaker 7: So with that, time for.

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Speaker 8: The lead block. That's right, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It is the twenty twenty four NFL Scouting Combine, presented

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Speaker 2: by Noble. Kicking off this Thursday. You can catch the

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Speaker 2: d line and linebackers. On Friday, it's the dvs and

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Speaker 2: tight ends, and then on Saturday, running backs, quarterbacks, wide receivers,

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Speaker 2: with the offensive lineman wrapping it all up on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That combine starts February twenty ninth and runs through March third,

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Speaker 2: right here on NFL Network and streaming on NFL Plus.

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Speaker 2: It'll be happening right there at Lucas Oil Stadium, and

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Speaker 2: that is where we find Peter shra and Tom Pelisaro.

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Speaker 2: Schrager was here yesterday and somehow he beat Tom Pelisaro

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Speaker 2: to the set this morning. We won't like dig in

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Speaker 2: too much on everything there, But what else is happening

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Speaker 2: in India this morning?

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Speaker 8: At seven am Easter?

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Speaker 9: When you're trying to work in you Minneapolis during Combine Week,

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Speaker 9: it takes you a little bit. But guess what made

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Speaker 9: it in time for the hits?

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Speaker 7: I sure did. No one ever had to know, but

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Speaker 7: Colleen just spoiled it. Tom. The objective here, Tom, is

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Speaker 7: to set the scene.

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Speaker 10: It's really day two of the Combine I'll see you

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Speaker 10: last night when I checked into the hotel, I saw

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Speaker 10: Jim Harball walk by, Howie Rosman walk by. I saw

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Speaker 10: members of the Tennessee Titan staff. People are descending upon Indianapolis.

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Speaker 10: Are you getting the film that now Combine Week is

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Speaker 9: I think that yesterday was really where Yeah, exactly, everybody

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Speaker 9: side people agents kind of trickle in and out at

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Speaker 9: various points here. There's a lot of meetings. I mean,

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Speaker 9: you're walking through hotel lobbies and you'll see, hey, wait

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Speaker 9: of the fun of Comby Week. Obviously, there's a lot

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Speaker 9: But it's all those little things that are happening around

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Speaker 10: Tuesday morning is a big day for the coaches and

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Speaker 10: show is going to be on, but you're also going

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Speaker 10: to see quotes and opportunities for the local and national

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Speaker 7: A lot of these coaches.

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Speaker 10: Eric DaCosta, John Harbaugh are speaking yesterday. Sean McDermott spoke

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Speaker 9: Obviously, you got another group of players that are beginning

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Speaker 9: Teams is really going to be important. Again, not anything

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Speaker 10: I respect the fact the chiefs a lot of teams,

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Speaker 10: Are we chiefs are here like they're like we were

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Speaker 10: the champ to guess what, Andy Reid spags Naggie.

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Speaker 7: They're all in the pet in the house. They will

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Speaker 9: It's one of the fascinating things about just how the

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Speaker 9: see the value in so let's spend a week in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 9: let's sit down with the players. Okay, let's stay in

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Speaker 9: the routine. Let's stay let's grind. You get teams with

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Speaker 9: But there's a lot of those coaches who still say,

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Speaker 9: In terms of the drills, yeah, sure you can watch

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Speaker 9: having dinner with you a huge part of that process.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if Andy Reid's coming to the compent.

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Speaker 8: I'm just right.

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Speaker 9: The Chiefs don't have you having dinner with the prospects

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Speaker 9: so you can evaluate, like Triggar, what did you what.

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Speaker 8: Did you say?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 8: He ordered the fry.

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Speaker 3: He seems like your type of guy.

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Speaker 10: And last year Rashi Rice and I had dinner and

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Speaker 3: So sometimes you have to miss. You're like every scout

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you get it right, sometimes you don't.

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Speaker 10: Colleen, by the way, that was my first Instagram post

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Speaker 7: I signed up for Instagram this week, So there you go.

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Speaker 7: Tell it spread the signed up for.

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Speaker 3: Catch up on your eye.

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Speaker 7: You're coming to goings anymore?

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Speaker 3: That's great?

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Speaker 7: All right, Eric's getting to this.

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Speaker 2: Why did you decide to actually get on Instagram?

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Speaker 7: After all? Your news almost we try to bring you

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Speaker 9: He's getting the combine today's news Schrager on Instagram.

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Speaker 7: Let's see any followers's what's your hands? Because there's some

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Speaker 10: He's like an Insurance, North Dakota.

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Speaker 7: Stop all over, my lie, let me to the remote. Oh,

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Speaker 7: you're going to be back. You're coming right back. We

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Speaker 7: got a lot to say.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, you can.

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Speaker 2: Take the rest of the hour off, Tom, You'll be

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Speaker 2: back next hour. We're gonna get back out to Peter.

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Speaker 8: We need to know.

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Speaker 2: More about his social media updates. I love that he

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Speaker 7: Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So the Combine that is the main event this week.

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Speaker 2: Here's how our guy, Bucky Brooks has the quarterbacks ranked

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Speaker 2: ahead of the combine. Caleb Williams at one, but Bucky

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Speaker 2: has Jayden Daniels ahead of Drake May, followed by Michael

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Speaker 2: Pennox Junior and JJ McCarthy. Those top two names. According

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Speaker 2: to NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport, will not work out

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Speaker 6: Ryan, I mean, any of these top guys. The fact

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Speaker 6: that sense, I think it's the biggest week for bo Nicks,

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Speaker 8: He's done everything.

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Speaker 6: While every other quarterback has simply sat out of bowl games,

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Speaker 6: He was supposed to opt out of the Bowl game. No,

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Speaker 6: I think this could be a big week for him

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Speaker 6: think there's a stigma out there that he threw really short.

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Speaker 11: And you look at these guys, and you mentioned guys

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Speaker 11: so different than when you were in college.

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Speaker 8: When we were both in college, where a bowl game

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Speaker 11: And of course you had the national championship in the

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Speaker 11: BCS games, but everybody was playing in the bowl games.

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Speaker 11: And now you look at it, guys just aren't doing it.

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Speaker 11: And I'm not mad at him. Do whatever is best

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Speaker 10: Well, I think both you and Brian hit it really

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Speaker 7: Now there's a chance for you to step up and

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Speaker 10: I was at that combine when Josh Allen threw it

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Speaker 7: Guy's got the arm.

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Speaker 10: If Drake May, who is this incredibly talented athlete, does

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Speaker 7: Which is all important.

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Speaker 10: I would also add to what you said, Colleen, which

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Speaker 10: Much of the college season, it was caleber May, Caleber

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Speaker 7: May is the freak athlete with the big arm. Let's

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Speaker 7: I think he's a lot to gain.

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Speaker 10: Here because there's a chance he goes as the second

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Speaker 10: two are not going to work out. Welcome back to

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Speaker 10: Indianapolis here at the NFL Draft Scouting Combin. I couldn't

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Speaker 10: Buccaneers head coach Todd Bowles. Todd, thank you for joining

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Speaker 3: No problem, Peter, glad to be here.

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Speaker 7: Love having you on.

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Speaker 10: I bumped into you last night briefly, and we looked

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Speaker 10: I think it's funny that we already flipped the page

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Speaker 10: One of the great parts about having a season like

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Speaker 7: In the division with the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 10: You guys had to quickly regroup and you ended up

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Speaker 3: He had a career year, Las sure did.

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Speaker 13: You meet with them here, But we didn't really identify

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Speaker 10: Into the league year that the Buccaneers might be parting

443
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Speaker 10: ways with Super Bowl champion Shack Barrett. There are changes

444
00:17:52,068 --> 00:17:54,748
Speaker 10: that happen, or are there are? Is what you interport

445
00:17:54,828 --> 00:17:56,668
Speaker 10: is they're releasing form. I'd hate to say it. It

446
00:17:56,708 --> 00:17:58,468
Speaker 10: seems like this is happening, and that's happening in the

447
00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:01,228
Speaker 10: new year. Just was released on Twitter just a second ago,

448
00:18:01,268 --> 00:18:03,228
Speaker 10: So I don't mean to blindside you with it, but

449
00:18:03,228 --> 00:18:03,908
Speaker 10: that's what I said.

450
00:18:03,908 --> 00:18:05,028
Speaker 7: Obviously, you know the news.

451
00:18:05,268 --> 00:18:09,108
Speaker 10: You're in the building, this transition from the Super Bowl

452
00:18:09,108 --> 00:18:10,628
Speaker 10: team from a couple of years ago, and at some

453
00:18:10,708 --> 00:18:12,668
Speaker 10: point it's okay, we're going to have to let go

454
00:18:12,748 --> 00:18:14,308
Speaker 10: of some guys, We're going to have to move on.

455
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Speaker 7: Do you feel like it's been a seamless move and

456
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Speaker 7: that this is.

457
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Speaker 10: Something that you guys can usher into the next generation

458
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Speaker 10: for the Buccaneers.

459
00:18:20,828 --> 00:18:22,228
Speaker 3: It's never a seamless move.

460
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Speaker 13: It's always you know, from a personal side, you get

461
00:18:25,028 --> 00:18:26,828
Speaker 13: very close to these guys as well as they do

462
00:18:26,908 --> 00:18:29,548
Speaker 13: the coaches, and you have a relationship that never goes

463
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Speaker 13: away from a business side. In order for us to

464
00:18:32,148 --> 00:18:34,948
Speaker 13: get better and bring in new talent and upgrade the team,

465
00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:36,948
Speaker 13: you have to get some of these things done in

466
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Speaker 13: their hard decisions. But Shaq has been great for us

467
00:18:39,708 --> 00:18:42,268
Speaker 13: over the past five years. He came in, he made

468
00:18:42,268 --> 00:18:44,308
Speaker 13: a heck of a name for himself, and he's one

469
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Speaker 13: of the best human beings you could ever meet. And

470
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Speaker 13: he's still got some great planability left in him. But

471
00:18:49,468 --> 00:18:51,548
Speaker 13: these tough decisions have to be made for us to

472
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Speaker 13: move on. He understands that, and we understand that, and

473
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Speaker 13: who knows, We'll see what happens down the line.

474
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Speaker 7: You've been coming to the Combine for years.

475
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Speaker 10: Did you as when you were a player, did you

476
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Speaker 10: get to work out at the combine at the old

477
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Speaker 10: RCA Dome or do you have any.

478
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Speaker 3: I worked that at the combine? It was in New Orleans?

479
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Speaker 7: Is that right?

480
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Speaker 3: Tell me it was in New Orleans in nineteen eighty five?

481
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Speaker 7: Love this, Okay, go on.

482
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Speaker 13: There was nobody in the stands. Everybody's on the field

483
00:19:15,228 --> 00:19:17,628
Speaker 13: timing your forty times, so you could have gone from

484
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Speaker 13: a four four to a.

485
00:19:18,948 --> 00:19:19,548
Speaker 3: Five to five.

486
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Speaker 13: And there was about one hundred watches down there. And

487
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Speaker 13: I think I had a plane to catch, So I

488
00:19:25,028 --> 00:19:26,308
Speaker 13: never finished my work out there.

489
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Speaker 7: You just said, Okay, my flight flight is there.

490
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Speaker 3: I gotta have to go.

491
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Speaker 13: You had to go, you know, And halfway through the

492
00:19:32,868 --> 00:19:34,908
Speaker 13: drills on the field. I had to go catch a plane.

493
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Speaker 13: I had to get out of there.

494
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Speaker 7: This is incredible, Okay.

495
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Speaker 10: And then obviously you have this great, storied career and

496
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Speaker 10: then you go into coaching.

497
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Speaker 7: What was your first coaching memory of being at the combine.

498
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Speaker 3: I thought it was very interesting at the weighings.

499
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Speaker 13: And the way people were plucked and picked and you know,

500
00:19:52,748 --> 00:19:55,748
Speaker 13: just frouded all over the place. But it was it

501
00:19:55,788 --> 00:19:57,748
Speaker 13: was a great experience to get to know the guys,

502
00:19:57,868 --> 00:20:00,828
Speaker 13: especially in the train station when they're very relaxed and

503
00:20:00,868 --> 00:20:02,948
Speaker 13: they start just talking to you.

504
00:20:03,028 --> 00:20:05,268
Speaker 3: Normally, it's great in the train station.

505
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Speaker 7: Explain with the train station because if you were at

506
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Speaker 7: home and I know, so, it's.

507
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Speaker 8: Go on, what is it?

508
00:20:09,308 --> 00:20:11,388
Speaker 3: What is the informal interviews?

509
00:20:11,428 --> 00:20:13,708
Speaker 13: And it's kind of go get them as you can

510
00:20:13,788 --> 00:20:15,428
Speaker 13: and sit them down with them, because once they get

511
00:20:15,468 --> 00:20:18,068
Speaker 13: into formal interviews, if you catch them halfway through, after

512
00:20:18,108 --> 00:20:22,188
Speaker 13: about five or six of them, they're on an automatic pilot.

513
00:20:22,268 --> 00:20:23,908
Speaker 13: You know, they kind of say the right things and

514
00:20:23,948 --> 00:20:27,548
Speaker 13: do the right things. If you get him at the

515
00:20:27,548 --> 00:20:30,468
Speaker 13: train station, you can get them uncut and raw. You

516
00:20:30,468 --> 00:20:32,348
Speaker 13: can really kind of get to know those guys. So

517
00:20:32,508 --> 00:20:33,788
Speaker 13: that that's a big part of it.

518
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Speaker 10: Is there a player that you remember seeing or meeting

519
00:20:35,908 --> 00:20:38,468
Speaker 10: in Indy that sticks out that come draft period, You're like,

520
00:20:39,028 --> 00:20:41,268
Speaker 10: that was my guy in Indy and I really connected

521
00:20:41,268 --> 00:20:42,548
Speaker 10: with him and I was going to make sure I

522
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Speaker 10: had him in my team.

523
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Speaker 13: Actually, two years ago, I met Rashad White in the

524
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Speaker 13: hallway walking to the convention center.

525
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Speaker 10: Shot. White comes out of Arizona State, but before that,

526
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Speaker 10: I think it's called is it something sad san Antonio at.

527
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Speaker 3: A I think it's San Antonio.

528
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Speaker 7: Out of California and Sacramentous, Okay.

529
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Speaker 13: And he came up to me and said, Hi, I'm Rashot.

530
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Speaker 13: That was on the state of running Back. And we

531
00:21:06,908 --> 00:21:10,268
Speaker 13: walked all the way down the convention Center into the dome,

532
00:21:10,468 --> 00:21:12,508
Speaker 13: and I'm like, this guy's running back. So I went

533
00:21:12,508 --> 00:21:14,988
Speaker 13: back and looked that film on him and lo and behold,

534
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Speaker 13: we draft has gotten the third round and our relationship

535
00:21:17,788 --> 00:21:19,228
Speaker 13: has been ever since then.

536
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Speaker 10: I love that story. We've got a long week ahead, obviously.

537
00:21:23,428 --> 00:21:25,948
Speaker 10: We so appreciate you coming onto the show. Is there

538
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Speaker 10: a quick message you want for Buccaneers fans who are

539
00:21:27,948 --> 00:21:28,748
Speaker 10: watching Waking Up?

540
00:21:28,828 --> 00:21:30,388
Speaker 7: Is moren'ty excited to be a Tampa fan.

541
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Speaker 13: Just keep the faith some of the best fans in

542
00:21:34,748 --> 00:21:38,668
Speaker 13: the league. We'll come back stronger and better. We'll get

543
00:21:38,708 --> 00:21:40,748
Speaker 13: free agency in the draft taken care of, and we

544
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Speaker 13: look forward to the season.

545
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Speaker 10: Mount san Antonio. Right, that's it. Todd Bowles, thank you

546
00:21:47,588 --> 00:21:52,948
Speaker 10: so much. As always, You're so great. We so appreciate you.

547
00:21:54,028 --> 00:21:55,068
Speaker 7: Every year, I try to.

548
00:21:55,068 --> 00:21:56,868
Speaker 10: Give you guys an idea of who are the prospects

549
00:21:56,908 --> 00:21:58,588
Speaker 10: we're we're talking about the next couple of days and

550
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Speaker 10: we go different positions. Now I said CJ. Stryer was

551
00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:02,748
Speaker 10: in the top ten. I should have said he was

552
00:22:02,828 --> 00:22:03,748
Speaker 10: number one last year.

553
00:22:03,788 --> 00:22:04,548
Speaker 7: But that's how I go.

554
00:22:04,748 --> 00:22:07,388
Speaker 10: And in this case, yesterday we did number ten and

555
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Speaker 10: number nine and number eight. I'm going to Oregon State

556
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Speaker 10: for the big offensive tackle, Talisa Fuaga.

557
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Speaker 7: Talisa Fuago was an All American.

558
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Speaker 10: He was All Packed twelve and was an absolute beast

559
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Speaker 10: at the right tackle spot for Oregon State this year.

560
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Speaker 7: This guy is six foot six.

561
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Speaker 10: Three hundred and thirty two pounds, has an eighty two

562
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Speaker 10: inch wingspan, huge arms, and is an absolute maller.

563
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Speaker 7: You go through his career, he was a starter of

564
00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:35,548
Speaker 7: the last two seasons.

565
00:22:36,108 --> 00:22:38,748
Speaker 10: But you go back and in all of his three

566
00:22:38,828 --> 00:22:42,148
Speaker 10: hundred and thirty nine pass blocking snaps last.

567
00:22:41,988 --> 00:22:45,108
Speaker 7: Year, gave up zero sacks. Okay, well, then you go

568
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Speaker 7: back to twenty twenty two.

569
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Speaker 10: In his three hundred and thirty seven pass blocking snaps

570
00:22:50,188 --> 00:22:55,228
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty two, gave up zero snaps. Offensive line

571
00:22:55,308 --> 00:22:58,228
Speaker 10: is a very strong part of this.

572
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Speaker 7: Year's NFL draft.

573
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Speaker 10: There are gonna be several offensive tackles taken in the

574
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Speaker 10: first round. Talsa Fuag is number eight on my list.

575
00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:09,628
Speaker 10: Had an outstanding career over at Oregon State.

576
00:23:10,108 --> 00:23:12,508
Speaker 7: Number seven. I'm going with a wide receiver and you

577
00:23:12,548 --> 00:23:12,948
Speaker 7: know him.

578
00:23:12,868 --> 00:23:15,948
Speaker 10: Well if you watched college football over the past several years.

579
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Speaker 7: LSU.

580
00:23:16,948 --> 00:23:19,988
Speaker 10: Jaden Daniels was the Heisman Trophy winner. Marcus Neighbors was

581
00:23:20,028 --> 00:23:20,508
Speaker 10: his guy.

582
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Speaker 7: Malik Neighbors.

583
00:23:21,668 --> 00:23:22,108
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.

584
00:23:22,108 --> 00:23:25,068
Speaker 10: Milik Neighbors is number seven on our list. You look

585
00:23:25,108 --> 00:23:28,548
Speaker 10: at the career that he had, First team AP All American,

586
00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:31,948
Speaker 10: first Team All SEC. He led all of college football

587
00:23:32,148 --> 00:23:34,908
Speaker 10: with one hundred and twenty one yards per game. It's

588
00:23:34,948 --> 00:23:38,588
Speaker 10: also six foot, two hundred and ten pounds, has good speed,

589
00:23:38,948 --> 00:23:44,188
Speaker 10: great hands. He's LSU's career leader in receptions and receiving yards. Okay,

590
00:23:44,268 --> 00:23:47,828
Speaker 10: what does that mean you think about LSU's wide receivers.

591
00:23:47,308 --> 00:23:50,508
Speaker 7: In recent years, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson.

592
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Speaker 10: And now you put in this gentleman right here, first

593
00:23:53,348 --> 00:23:56,108
Speaker 10: Team Associated Press All American who was a finalist for

594
00:23:56,148 --> 00:24:01,188
Speaker 10: the bolitnakaw Award last year, had fifteen hundred and sixty

595
00:24:01,308 --> 00:24:04,188
Speaker 10: nine yards receiving and did that with Jaden Daniels as

596
00:24:04,188 --> 00:24:07,988
Speaker 10: his wide receiver. Unless you has quietly become a wide

597
00:24:08,028 --> 00:24:11,868
Speaker 10: receiver factory over the last several drafts. And Malik Neighbors

598
00:24:11,868 --> 00:24:13,428
Speaker 10: he can go as high as three or four in

599
00:24:13,468 --> 00:24:16,468
Speaker 10: this draft. He is that elite of a prospect. I've

600
00:24:16,468 --> 00:24:19,868
Speaker 10: got him as number seven on my list. We're going

601
00:24:19,868 --> 00:24:22,348
Speaker 10: to offensive tackle, We're going wide receiver.

602
00:24:22,748 --> 00:24:25,468
Speaker 7: Here's the four that we've done so far on the show.

603
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Speaker 10: We've gone with Brock Bauers the tight end at nine

604
00:24:27,908 --> 00:24:31,108
Speaker 10: and Nate Wiggins as my corner at ten. But today

605
00:24:31,108 --> 00:24:34,108
Speaker 10: it's Fuaga and Neighbors and I toss it to the

606
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Speaker 10: table in New York. Mister Ryan Leaf, you've covered a

607
00:24:36,628 --> 00:24:37,948
Speaker 10: bunch of Pac twelve games.

608
00:24:37,988 --> 00:24:39,628
Speaker 7: You're a Pack ten legend.

609
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Speaker 10: Do you have any insight on mister Fuaga?

610
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Speaker 2: Oh?

611
00:24:44,708 --> 00:24:45,348
Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh?

612
00:24:45,788 --> 00:24:49,548
Speaker 6: Fuaga is a guy that you want protecting your bland

613
00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,348
Speaker 6: side period. He's just he's big, he's massive, He's got

614
00:24:52,668 --> 00:24:56,748
Speaker 6: very good mobility, which means that he can move withever

615
00:24:57,428 --> 00:25:00,108
Speaker 6: with all these defensive tackle are these defensive edge rushers

616
00:25:00,108 --> 00:25:02,068
Speaker 6: that are coming up the quarterback. Jonathan Smith was his

617
00:25:02,108 --> 00:25:04,628
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator as well as his head coach and his

618
00:25:04,668 --> 00:25:07,148
Speaker 6: tenure there at Oregon State. And they throw the ball

619
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Speaker 6: a lot, and they did it with a lunch of

620
00:25:08,468 --> 00:25:13,748
Speaker 6: different quarterbacks that are different spots. Dj Ujangala was very

621
00:25:13,788 --> 00:25:15,628
Speaker 6: difficult to understand where he was going to be in

622
00:25:15,668 --> 00:25:17,268
Speaker 6: the pocket, you know, because he liked to run with

623
00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:19,308
Speaker 6: the ball. Sometimes he take the short three step drop,

624
00:25:19,308 --> 00:25:23,028
Speaker 6: a one step drop, but your tackle was always stopping people,

625
00:25:23,108 --> 00:25:25,268
Speaker 6: keeping him away from any quarterback that was back there.

626
00:25:25,508 --> 00:25:27,668
Speaker 6: Really really impressive. I expect his name to be called

627
00:25:27,868 --> 00:25:30,948
Speaker 6: early on draft night and whoever gets them, and I'm

628
00:25:30,988 --> 00:25:33,148
Speaker 6: talking to you Chargers there around five, that may be

629
00:25:33,268 --> 00:25:36,068
Speaker 6: the best possible pick you can get for Justin Herbert

630
00:25:36,228 --> 00:25:37,108
Speaker 6: heading into the next year.

631
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Speaker 2: Pretty wild. He's one of two players in LSU history

632
00:25:40,988 --> 00:25:44,908
Speaker 2: with multiple one thousand yard seasons. And you heard Peter

633
00:25:45,548 --> 00:25:49,148
Speaker 2: mention the names Justin Jefferson Jamoar Chase, also Odell Beckham

634
00:25:49,188 --> 00:25:53,428
Speaker 2: Junior and Jarvis Landry. So there have been a ton

635
00:25:53,668 --> 00:25:57,908
Speaker 2: of great wide receivers to come through that school and neighbors.

636
00:25:57,948 --> 00:26:01,108
Speaker 2: Peter well done. It's interesting to read about him. He

637
00:26:01,148 --> 00:26:04,708
Speaker 2: also has a really fun personality. He wasn't playing full ball,

638
00:26:05,188 --> 00:26:08,548
Speaker 2: he'd go into fashion design and Jayden Daniels says like

639
00:26:08,548 --> 00:26:10,588
Speaker 2: he spends way too much money on his dinner clothes.

640
00:26:12,108 --> 00:26:17,588
Speaker 2: He also loves using negative media as motivations. So everybody

641
00:26:17,908 --> 00:26:19,668
Speaker 2: just know that he's got a receive commer.

642
00:26:19,868 --> 00:26:20,308
Speaker 4: I like the man.

643
00:26:20,308 --> 00:26:21,028
Speaker 8: We're a quarterback.

644
00:26:21,068 --> 00:26:22,668
Speaker 3: You want a receiver and tackle?

645
00:26:22,908 --> 00:26:23,308
Speaker 9: Uh huh?

646
00:26:23,308 --> 00:26:24,668
Speaker 6: I think he falls to the fifth round.

647
00:26:25,388 --> 00:26:27,548
Speaker 8: Oh Jesus, negative media, let's go.

648
00:26:27,668 --> 00:26:28,468
Speaker 7: Let's get him up.

649
00:26:28,948 --> 00:26:30,508
Speaker 6: Motivating wide receiver.

650
00:26:30,628 --> 00:26:39,908
Speaker 8: I love it, Thank you, Peter. Another guy came up

651
00:26:39,988 --> 00:26:41,948
Speaker 8: in the news. We have our guy, Brian Horrier here.

652
00:26:42,028 --> 00:26:42,748
Speaker 8: Johnny Manziel.

653
00:26:42,828 --> 00:26:46,468
Speaker 11: He recently joined Club with Shannon Sharp on his podcast

654
00:26:46,548 --> 00:26:48,628
Speaker 11: and he talked about his time in Cleveland.

655
00:26:48,828 --> 00:26:51,068
Speaker 8: He also mentioned Hoyer's name. I want you guys to

656
00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:51,628
Speaker 8: take a listen.

657
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:57,348
Speaker 5: My quarterback room was not a home for me because

658
00:26:57,388 --> 00:27:02,308
Speaker 5: of Brian Hoyer. Brian Hoyer had been waiting on opportunity

659
00:27:02,428 --> 00:27:06,148
Speaker 5: to be able to go really provide for his family,

660
00:27:06,268 --> 00:27:10,828
Speaker 5: get an opportunity, and he saw how much of an

661
00:27:10,908 --> 00:27:13,588
Speaker 5: upper hand he had on me, and he didn't hold

662
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:16,068
Speaker 5: back when it came to that. So there was instances

663
00:27:16,108 --> 00:27:19,148
Speaker 5: in the quarterback room early on where I would ask

664
00:27:19,188 --> 00:27:21,188
Speaker 5: the same question a couple times and he'd be at

665
00:27:21,188 --> 00:27:25,468
Speaker 5: the head of the table and go again, we're doing

666
00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:29,748
Speaker 5: this again. Wow, keep him out of it. Right, let's

667
00:27:29,828 --> 00:27:31,868
Speaker 5: just cut that off. And I don't have a bad

668
00:27:31,948 --> 00:27:34,988
Speaker 5: word to say about Brian Hoyer. That is just fact

669
00:27:35,188 --> 00:27:37,388
Speaker 5: of what happened in that room. But at that point

670
00:27:37,428 --> 00:27:39,908
Speaker 5: in time of where I was and I'm the franchise guy,

671
00:27:41,228 --> 00:27:43,508
Speaker 5: I could have used a little help, especially when they

672
00:27:43,588 --> 00:27:45,508
Speaker 5: knew what I was doing. And I've said this before

673
00:27:45,508 --> 00:27:48,828
Speaker 5: in the past, and people have said, why don't you

674
00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:51,228
Speaker 5: take self accountability for what it was and you not

675
00:27:51,348 --> 00:27:52,108
Speaker 5: putting in the work.

676
00:27:54,388 --> 00:27:56,268
Speaker 3: I didn't know what work like that was.

677
00:27:56,748 --> 00:27:57,428
Speaker 8: I didn't know.

678
00:27:57,348 --> 00:27:59,588
Speaker 5: What the grind was because I was great at Texas

679
00:27:59,628 --> 00:28:02,428
Speaker 5: A and m without it. So a sentim entitlement comes

680
00:28:02,468 --> 00:28:04,628
Speaker 5: in that I can do it the same way because

681
00:28:04,628 --> 00:28:06,948
Speaker 5: I don't know any better. So when you have that

682
00:28:07,068 --> 00:28:09,228
Speaker 5: going on in the quarterback room. Then I just do this.

683
00:28:12,748 --> 00:28:15,588
Speaker 5: I ain't speaking. If I question something, I'm gonna ask it.

684
00:28:16,148 --> 00:28:19,508
Speaker 5: I'm embarrassed. Right, we get dog by a guy who's

685
00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:20,548
Speaker 5: supposed to be my teammate.

686
00:28:22,748 --> 00:28:25,868
Speaker 8: I didn't see what Now we know Ryan.

687
00:28:25,948 --> 00:28:27,668
Speaker 11: You know, being in a locker room for so long,

688
00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:29,668
Speaker 11: you become a veteran in that locker room, in your

689
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:33,108
Speaker 11: position room, you take the lead in there of helping young.

690
00:28:32,908 --> 00:28:34,348
Speaker 8: Guys, bringing them along.

691
00:28:34,708 --> 00:28:38,068
Speaker 11: When you hear Johnny Manziel describing you in that quarterback

692
00:28:38,148 --> 00:28:40,468
Speaker 11: room in that form of fashion, how does that make

693
00:28:40,508 --> 00:28:40,788
Speaker 11: you feel?

694
00:28:40,868 --> 00:28:41,788
Speaker 8: What's your response to it?

695
00:28:41,868 --> 00:28:45,148
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean I'm on my vacation

696
00:28:45,268 --> 00:28:46,788
Speaker 4: last week in Florida and I get a text for

697
00:28:46,828 --> 00:28:48,548
Speaker 4: Mac Jones. He goes, Hey, Funny, I didn't get this

698
00:28:48,588 --> 00:28:51,108
Speaker 4: treatment as a rookie. And look, I'll be honest. You know,

699
00:28:51,228 --> 00:28:53,348
Speaker 4: Johnny's right, that was an opportunity for me to go

700
00:28:53,468 --> 00:28:56,188
Speaker 4: out and be the starter of my hometown team. But

701
00:28:56,228 --> 00:28:58,308
Speaker 4: I was kind of apathetic towards him. I would say,

702
00:28:58,308 --> 00:28:59,468
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't go out of my way to

703
00:29:00,228 --> 00:29:02,068
Speaker 4: you know, be a jerk to him. But in the

704
00:29:02,108 --> 00:29:04,628
Speaker 4: same sense, I was trying to win this job and

705
00:29:04,788 --> 00:29:07,388
Speaker 4: go out and perform the best I could. You know,

706
00:29:07,468 --> 00:29:08,748
Speaker 4: I feel sorry that he feels that.

707
00:29:08,708 --> 00:29:09,308
Speaker 8: Way about it.

708
00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:11,548
Speaker 4: I always looked at it, like, you know, I never

709
00:29:11,588 --> 00:29:14,228
Speaker 4: had any animosity towards Johnny. If anything, it was towards

710
00:29:14,268 --> 00:29:16,188
Speaker 4: the owner and the GM who were always trying to

711
00:29:16,228 --> 00:29:18,828
Speaker 4: push him ahead of me when clearly he wasn't ready

712
00:29:18,868 --> 00:29:20,948
Speaker 4: and I was going to be the starter. So you know,

713
00:29:21,028 --> 00:29:23,588
Speaker 4: it's it's it's unfortunate that you know that left a

714
00:29:24,148 --> 00:29:26,668
Speaker 4: bad taste in his mouth. But you know, like I said,

715
00:29:26,828 --> 00:29:29,468
Speaker 4: never had any animosity towards Johnny, And you know, I

716
00:29:29,508 --> 00:29:31,348
Speaker 4: feel bad that he feels that way, but you know,

717
00:29:31,348 --> 00:29:32,988
Speaker 4: I don't really recall it being that way either.

718
00:29:33,028 --> 00:29:34,708
Speaker 2: So was that the first time you watched it?

719
00:29:35,308 --> 00:29:36,148
Speaker 4: When Max send it to me?

720
00:29:36,388 --> 00:29:36,508
Speaker 8: Ok?

721
00:29:36,628 --> 00:29:38,508
Speaker 4: Yeah, Max send it to me, He texts me, I'm

722
00:29:38,548 --> 00:29:40,668
Speaker 4: on the beach. I'm like, oh God, here we go.

723
00:29:40,748 --> 00:29:44,228
Speaker 2: You know, like, I love when you were watching it.

724
00:29:44,388 --> 00:29:46,708
Speaker 2: Just now with that and say you were like, I

725
00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:48,508
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever sat at the head of the table.

726
00:29:48,508 --> 00:29:49,188
Speaker 4: Now I sat on the left.

727
00:29:49,268 --> 00:29:51,188
Speaker 2: We're going to fact check this, Yeah, Okay, I.

728
00:29:51,588 --> 00:29:54,468
Speaker 6: Think that it's I mean, it's it is what it

729
00:29:54,548 --> 00:29:58,948
Speaker 6: is I've I've felt that I understand it. I also

730
00:29:59,228 --> 00:30:03,068
Speaker 6: I say this and uh, it's it's not a Johnny

731
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:05,388
Speaker 6: Manziel segment or anything like that. What it is that

732
00:30:06,268 --> 00:30:08,068
Speaker 6: I don't understand one year or are there to take

733
00:30:08,108 --> 00:30:11,588
Speaker 6: self accountability? Why you Why would you take a moment

734
00:30:11,628 --> 00:30:15,308
Speaker 6: to talk poorly about somebody else? That for me is

735
00:30:15,428 --> 00:30:19,428
Speaker 6: the one step forward, two steps back scenario. And it's

736
00:30:19,468 --> 00:30:20,468
Speaker 6: because I can relate to it.

737
00:30:20,908 --> 00:30:21,068
Speaker 3: Right.

738
00:30:21,148 --> 00:30:24,748
Speaker 6: There's resentment there still, and it's all the good things

739
00:30:24,748 --> 00:30:26,748
Speaker 6: you do when you talk about and take accountability things

740
00:30:26,748 --> 00:30:29,108
Speaker 6: you just you know, you pass the buck and everybody

741
00:30:29,268 --> 00:30:32,028
Speaker 6: forgets about the other stuff, everything that comes after the

742
00:30:32,068 --> 00:30:36,028
Speaker 6: butt whatever you said before, that doesn't matter. It just

743
00:30:36,228 --> 00:30:39,508
Speaker 6: it doesn't. It doesn't cost you anything to just talk

744
00:30:39,548 --> 00:30:42,988
Speaker 6: about your part in it. Life isn't fair. It's how

745
00:30:43,028 --> 00:30:46,468
Speaker 6: you deal with it that matters, you know, And it

746
00:30:46,508 --> 00:30:49,068
Speaker 6: doesn't matter what anybody else did, because you can't control

747
00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,828
Speaker 6: any of that. What was your part in it? And

748
00:30:50,868 --> 00:30:53,588
Speaker 6: that's the thing I disappointed I think the most. And

749
00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:56,068
Speaker 6: I know Brian and you know him well, so it

750
00:30:56,308 --> 00:30:57,868
Speaker 6: just does. It just doesn't fit.

751
00:30:58,028 --> 00:30:58,668
Speaker 3: And that's okay.

752
00:30:58,948 --> 00:31:01,308
Speaker 11: And as the course of that year, kind of unfolded

753
00:31:01,428 --> 00:31:05,028
Speaker 11: like the other quarterbacks in that room. For yourself, when

754
00:31:05,068 --> 00:31:06,668
Speaker 11: you look at that and you look at where Johnny

755
00:31:06,668 --> 00:31:08,268
Speaker 11: Manziel was, do you look at and say, hey, you

756
00:31:08,308 --> 00:31:10,468
Speaker 11: know what, I could have pulled him aside and say, hey,

757
00:31:10,468 --> 00:31:12,548
Speaker 11: come watch this extra film with us, or are there

758
00:31:12,548 --> 00:31:14,428
Speaker 11: any things that you say if I could go back,

759
00:31:14,428 --> 00:31:15,828
Speaker 11: I would have changed this or that.

760
00:31:16,148 --> 00:31:18,068
Speaker 4: I mean, I like he said there, like he kind

761
00:31:18,068 --> 00:31:20,308
Speaker 4: of he I just thought that's how he was. Yeah,

762
00:31:20,388 --> 00:31:22,348
Speaker 4: I didn't know any difference, and so that's you know,

763
00:31:22,628 --> 00:31:25,148
Speaker 4: I know, as a rookie, I wasn't asking a ton

764
00:31:25,188 --> 00:31:26,188
Speaker 4: of questions to Tom Brady.

765
00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:27,388
Speaker 8: I was just watching what he did.

766
00:31:27,708 --> 00:31:29,148
Speaker 4: And then that's you know, that's how I thought it

767
00:31:29,188 --> 00:31:31,148
Speaker 4: went in the NFL, Like this guy's got a job

768
00:31:31,188 --> 00:31:33,308
Speaker 4: to do. I'm going to learn from him and and

769
00:31:33,348 --> 00:31:36,868
Speaker 4: I'm going to go from there. And you know, Tom,

770
00:31:37,068 --> 00:31:39,388
Speaker 4: you know, I remember there was a guy and he

771
00:31:39,468 --> 00:31:41,108
Speaker 4: used to ask a lot of questions in our quarterback

772
00:31:41,148 --> 00:31:42,628
Speaker 4: room and Tom and be like, you know what, you

773
00:31:42,708 --> 00:31:44,828
Speaker 4: got three questions a day. So the next day he

774
00:31:44,868 --> 00:31:47,028
Speaker 4: walks in and he goes, hey, what's up Tom? He goes,

775
00:31:47,068 --> 00:31:49,868
Speaker 4: that's number one, and so like that was just the

776
00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:52,108
Speaker 4: experience like these, like when you're the starting bild out,

777
00:31:52,148 --> 00:31:53,828
Speaker 4: I've got a job to do and be prepared and

778
00:31:54,028 --> 00:31:56,388
Speaker 4: there's a million things on your mind, and he talks

779
00:31:56,428 --> 00:31:58,668
Speaker 4: about like this again, like you know, I'm not sitting

780
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:01,068
Speaker 4: there ready to go over formations for the fiftieth time

781
00:32:01,068 --> 00:32:02,708
Speaker 4: when I'm trying to progress to like what are the

782
00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:04,868
Speaker 4: reads on this concept? You know what is going to be.

783
00:32:05,068 --> 00:32:07,308
Speaker 4: So you know, I feel badly that you know he

784
00:32:07,388 --> 00:32:09,748
Speaker 4: has those feelings. But you know, I joked about it

785
00:32:09,748 --> 00:32:10,828
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago when I was on the show.

786
00:32:10,828 --> 00:32:13,428
Speaker 4: I've over had over like a thousand teammates in the NFL.

787
00:32:13,828 --> 00:32:15,828
Speaker 4: You know, I'm pretty sure a lot of them, you know,

788
00:32:16,028 --> 00:32:16,908
Speaker 4: would say differently.

789
00:32:16,988 --> 00:32:19,188
Speaker 6: So how cool is it to have Tom Brady as

790
00:32:19,188 --> 00:32:20,548
Speaker 6: your quarterback when you're a rookie?

791
00:32:20,628 --> 00:32:21,948
Speaker 3: Man, it was just great.

792
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:22,948
Speaker 8: Just shut up and watch.

793
00:32:22,948 --> 00:32:24,708
Speaker 11: I remember Tom Less said to us, as suppose you

794
00:32:24,748 --> 00:32:27,468
Speaker 11: and rookies just shut up, don't be heard, just going

795
00:32:27,468 --> 00:32:28,828
Speaker 11: in and watching what everybody else is doing.

796
00:32:28,868 --> 00:32:28,908
Speaker 2: That.

797
00:32:29,108 --> 00:32:30,268
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's Awes and Brian.

798
00:32:30,308 --> 00:32:32,988
Speaker 2: I mean, in the what We've worked together for forty

799
00:32:33,028 --> 00:32:34,948
Speaker 2: seven minutes and I'd say you're a great teammate.

800
00:32:35,108 --> 00:32:35,748
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

801
00:32:36,068 --> 00:32:39,628
Speaker 2: Hey, that's right, okay, but there's still time, plenty of

802
00:32:39,668 --> 00:32:40,308
Speaker 2: time left,