1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: I never told you inspection of I Heart Radio. Here's 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: my question for you today, Samantha, because I've decided I'm 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: just going to start asking you random questions at the 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: beginning of every episode. Okay, have you ever seen While 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: you were Sleeping? Oh? Yeah, I used to be in 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: my Christmas movie list for a long while because Sandra Bullock, 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: as beautiful as she is, that was her first movie 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: that I saw her. No, that's not true. Love Pushing 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Number nine was actually the first movie I saw her in. 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: But in each one of these characters, she was the 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: normal girl, which, by the way, is not true if 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: you look at it. But but she was supposed to 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: be the normal, funny girl. And I love that, so, 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: yes I did. It's been a minute, but that was 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: in my roster. Was that? Like, I'm trying to remember 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: if I've seen it, because Disney Plus was pushing it 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: very aggressively at me earlier. Yeah, and I feel like 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: was there a coma involved. Well, that's the whole point 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: of why you were sleeping. It's this weird little tidbit 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: of the dude falls in the train tracks to where 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: she works, so it's like a public trains that she 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: works there. She's been qushing on this dude for a 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: long while. It's uh, oh, my goodness. What is his 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: name is? Eyebrows? Dus know? How dare you sorry? I 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: will see myself out? How dare you? I'm sorry that 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what eyebrows? Peter Gallagher is his name, 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: and as in fact, he's a new girl as Schmid's dad. 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: And one of the first things she says to him 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: is commenting about his eyebrows, because he is an infamous 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: guy with those eyebrows. But he falls into the tracks, 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: goes into a coma. She saves his life advertently somehow 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: miss you know, all of the meet cute things and 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: all the kafuffle, somehow gets mistaken as his fiancee. Oh yes, yeah, 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: And so that's how it all begins. Um, for Bill 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Pullman is there and he's the actual main squeeze love 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: interest hero. I guess of the movie. It's just the 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: whole thing. But the cast is fantastic. Peter Boyle is 39 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: in it, and you can't help but love Peter Boyle. 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: Um actually, an iconic old movie star was in it too. 41 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: Glenny's John's and she was the mother and Mary Poppins, 42 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: and I just really really appreciated that she was in 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: that movie. Um, but yeah, it's uh, I know way 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: too much about this movie. So so why are you 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: asking me? I was not expect of an answer, but 46 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm very happy. But because I was just confused about 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: like sleeping since Seattle and while we were sleeping, and 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I knew that you could clarify this for me without 49 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: me having to do the onerous task of googling it. 50 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. Um, I will put it in 51 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: consideration because Disney Plus is pushing it at me right now. 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: It's cheesy. I don't know how well it's aged, so 53 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: I can't really put my endorsement behind it. But it 54 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: is one that I grew up on and loved and adored. Okay, 55 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and a Christmas movie, all right, it's a Christmas Well, 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: it starts as Christmas movie. Okay, you're adding a lot 57 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: of layers here. Layers are well. Today we were talking 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: about it is a feminist movie Friday. We are not 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: talking about what you're sleeping or sleepless in Seattle. We 60 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: were just trying to that was a mcguffin. Um, we're 61 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: talking about something much more recent, and it is a 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: suggestion of Samantha's the Netflix film, the new Netflix film, 63 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: The Old Guard. So if you haven't seen it and 64 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be spoiled, now is your chance. Then 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: you can come back and listen to this. Um really good, 66 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: still trending, I think. And you know what, and for 67 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: those who need just a mindless action movie and morning 68 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: it does have violence and really gross scenes. That's how 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it. But to me, it was worth 70 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: it and will most likely be put into my rotation 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: for my comfort ish quote films as something that I 72 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: play that I'm like, I just want to kind of 73 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: zone out. Yeah, So like while You're sleeping the Old Guarden, 74 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: so while You're while you were sleeping is now pulled 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: out of my list because it's one of those like 76 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: it's been so long that I've seen it that I'm 77 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: scared that I'm gonna be disappointed by it. Um, And 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: with all of the realization and growth in my life, 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I'm ready to be 80 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: disappointed by this. I totally understand. There are certain movies 81 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: that I loved in high school that I am too 82 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: afraid to rewatch because I'm almost certain they don't hold up. Yeah. Yeah, 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: so while You're Sleeping was on that list with like, 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: um love Act Truly and Don't Judge Me and Harry 85 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Potter as my Christmas movies. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. 86 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I see you. Um well, we'll go on. You know, 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: anything could be a Christmas movie if you want it 88 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: hard enough, die hard. Spider verse, spider verse. Um. So, 89 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: The Old Guard has been hailed as a summer blockbuster 90 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: during COVID nineteen, when that is sort of a rarity, 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: if not almost non existent right now. According to Netflix 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: at Broke Records in terms of viewership, up to seventy 93 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: two million within one month, um, which I do find 94 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: funny because I catch myself. I feel like I've said 95 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: this on several podcasts now, but I'm scraping the bottle 96 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: of the barrel when it comes to horror movies at 97 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: this point. And I do think that anything new, anything 98 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: new that comes out right now, it's like, what could 99 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: it be? Um, So, there is the benefit of that, 100 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: but um it did attracted a lot of years and 101 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: a lot of repeat viewers, and it is a superhero 102 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: movie in a lot of ways, but in other ways 103 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: it diverges. So it's kind of as we talked about 104 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: in our Star Wars episode about the whole summer blockbuster thing. 105 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: It is doing that, but during a time of quarantine. Yes, 106 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: and speaking of Star Wars, I just want to point 107 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: out here the top grossing movie for several months now 108 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: in the US, I think since March until now is 109 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the Empire strikes Back. Yep, it's making like fourty five 110 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month because they're playing old movies and 111 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: theaters and ding the like our drive Ins, um so 112 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: my whole my favorite still still succeeding. And actually, speaking 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: of drive Ins, I know they just re released at 114 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: drive Ins uh mad Max the Fury Road, so in 115 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, going along with our Charlie's movies. Yes, yes, 116 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: I just actually want to point that out as well. 117 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, actually I was talking about Rogue One the 118 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: other day because I realized I haven't seen that one yet. 119 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: But there's been a debate back and forth about people 120 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: talking about how much they loved that movie and why 121 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: it's getting such a bad rap. Because Holly was on 122 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: a movie crush about Rogue one. She chose Rope one. Well, 123 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that that precipitated the whole thing. I 124 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: just know that a lot of people have been contacting 125 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: me about it because she was not okay, yeah, no, 126 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: it was a whole different level. And I was like, mm, 127 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen that one yet, which 128 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: you and I have been on repeat. By the way, y'all, 129 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I've been trying to get through these movies, but we 130 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: go back on repeat, just so everyone knows. And there's 131 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: been a start seeing you. It's been a while. Started 132 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: Rogue one and we got twenty minutes? Is that what happened? 133 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: So yes, because it had been on But I'm like, 134 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: the last movie was really bad outside of the Han 135 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: Solo was like, it was really bad. Well, yeah, so 136 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: we we started. It was like four in the morning 137 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: and we started Rogue one and then we got twenty 138 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: minutes and we're like, we'll call this a day. But 139 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: then you came in later. You came back and I 140 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: had watched it. I was like, wow, Dark Vader's at 141 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: the end. I forgot how scary it is. And I 142 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: was like, it's night in the morning, what are you doing? Yes, 143 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: So we will that is next on our list. Okay, 144 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: but yeah I like it. Yeah, I think it's coming back, well, 145 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: not coming back when people are rewatching and reliving and 146 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: loving that they forgot that they loved. Yeah, right, but 147 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: back to the old Guard, just go back. It is 148 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: a Netflix original movie based on a comic book by 149 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: the same name, written by Leandro Fernandez and Greg Ruca, 150 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: who served as the movie screenwriter. Is directed by Gina 151 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: Prince Bythewood, who also directed two thousand's Love and Basketball, 152 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: which was a really great movie and stars My Love 153 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: and Charlie srn As and Dramaica Day Cynthia or Andy. 154 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: And she says it really fast and then she does 155 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: it as she knocks somebody out, So I was like, 156 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: what's happening? What's her name again? Who? And then she 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: goes or you can call me Andy. I was like, yeah, 158 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: there it is um and Kiki Lane as Nile Freeman, 159 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: who does a fantastic job, and Prince Bythewood also broke 160 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: a record becoming the first black female director to break 161 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: into the list of Netflix Top ten most popular films 162 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: of all time. And she deserves all of that credit 163 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, and she did this um again with 164 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: the caveat we're in COVID nineteen. But also whatever she 165 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: did this um within four weeks as compared to like 166 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: movies like The Irishman had a super long time to 167 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: get on there. UM. So pretty big deal, right, So 168 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: let's get into the plot. Uh. The story revolves around 169 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: a team of immortal mercenaries. After learning there is a 170 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: new immortal, the team rushes to get to her before 171 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: this billion in their chasing them in hopes of unlocking 172 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: the key to their healing abilities and immortality. Does this 173 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: sort of happens in tandem where they learn about that 174 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: and a betrayal and her and it kind of entwines together. UM. 175 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: The comic, which was published as our Plan to be 176 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: published as a five partment a series, launched in Seen 177 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: and it began with The Old Guard, which you can 178 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: find online for Freedom, is very very worth reading and 179 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: stunning illustrations. UM a featured work by letterer Jody Winn 180 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: and colorist Daniella Miwa and depicted flashbacks and these epic 181 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: battles is touted as a quote fairy tale of blood 182 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: and bullets as in the movie. It centers around immortal 183 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: soldiers and the largely violent events that make up their lives. Typically, 184 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: their immortality is uncovered after they survive an event on 185 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: the battlefield that should have killed them. Usually their soldiers 186 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: died on the battlefield or should have and then didn't. 187 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: Once immortality is discovered, they join up with a group 188 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: of others like them and spend the rest of time 189 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: fighting for what they think is right. And this others 190 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: like them is typically like four or five. They're not 191 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: many of them in at least in the world that 192 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: we are shown and Uh this what is right can 193 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: differ obviously between characters, and most of them long for 194 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: the day when their immortality will fade away. On top 195 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: of this is the moral quandary of how much violence 196 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: is used to do what's right. The leader of the group, 197 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: Andy Uh, who she's been fighting for millennia. This is 198 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: something she's really struggling with when we see her in 199 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: in the movie. When new member US Marine Niles Freeman 200 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: joins the team, it coincides with Yes, this pharmaceutical billionaire 201 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: fixing his I on them. He's determined to harness their 202 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: healing abilities their immortality. Uh. The Old guard Book one 203 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: Opening Fire was followed by the Old guard Book two 204 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: Force multiplied in twenty nineteen, by the way I did. 205 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Immediately after I watched the first time, I went and 206 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: looked through all the differences and all of the reviews, 207 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: and it's pretty on par and the changes most of 208 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: the critics, I think that it was actually a good change. 209 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: So that's not too usual for comics that I've seen. 210 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Um So let's break down the characters a bit more, 211 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: starting with Andy, my lady Charlie's when she's saying that 212 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: throughout she's been around the longest, and according to the comics, 213 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: her immortality began in Eurasia and b c E. She 214 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: learned about her immortality in a tragic, brutal way after 215 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: someone she viewed as a mother turned on her and 216 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: threatened by andy strength and intelligence, And after that she 217 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: spent the next thousand years by herself and alone before 218 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: she met two others like her, Lykon and Mariko or Quit. 219 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: And however, Lykon becomes the first and to the point 220 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: of publishing, only mortal to actually die in battle, and 221 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Noriko has lost the sea after being tossed off a ship, 222 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: assuming she's drowning over and over again. And yes, so 223 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: I just want to put in here. I have read 224 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: this sand fiction before where some people were like, well, 225 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: if Baltimore, why didn't you just put him in a 226 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: dan coffin and weighed down and put him in the 227 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: bottom of the sea, And then Harry could have lived 228 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: an old, happy life as a hor crux and never 229 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: had to like sacrifice himself or die. And also supernatural, 230 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: this was a plot point. They did have that at 231 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: the plot point, which, by the way, also the scene 232 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: and Old Guard with her drowning. It's pretty horrified. I 233 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine actually filming that. That seems like a nightmare 234 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: in itself. I just want to say that. Um. And 235 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: she later returns as a villain enforced multiplied, which we 236 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of see at the end of the movie's credit scene. 237 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: I later fell in love with Achilles, who was afraid 238 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: enslaved person who fought alongside the British and the Revolutionary War. 239 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: They met while he was incarcerated in the West Indies, 240 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: and they grew old together until Andy left, not wanting 241 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: people to grow suspicious of her immortality. And she embodies 242 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: that don't get close to anyone vibe except her small crew. Yeah, yeah, 243 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: and that's that comes up several times in the movie 244 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: of at some point the people you love are going 245 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: to realize you're not aging, right, and they're probably not 246 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: going to take it well right, And they do talk 247 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: about that a lot with Niles and her want wanting 248 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: to get back with our family. They keep saying, you're 249 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do this, it's not liable. Yeah, 250 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: And also with Booker and his whole plotline, um, so yeah, yeah, 251 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: you do have You have Niles Freeman, who is a 252 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: US marine who is immortal circuit modern day Afghanistan, and 253 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: her story kind of leads a lot of the plot 254 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: line as then they're trying to find her, and then 255 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: she sort of serves as the audience in a lot 256 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: of ways where they're explaining, well, now you're this immortal 257 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: and we have to go fight stuff together and you're 258 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: part of our army, and she's like wait what wait, 259 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, she's very torn about the violence and implications 260 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: of being an immortal um and being with her family, 261 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: wondering if she'd be better off if she settled down 262 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: with her family, even if it was only for a 263 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: few years before they realized, hey, she's not aging. I 264 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like it could be more than 265 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: a few years because us brown people with the melanine, 266 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: we don't age as fast. I feel like I just 267 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: say I do. I do feel like in Quarantine, I've 268 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: added like seventeen years. I mean you look at like 269 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: people like Kneel Long, Gabrielle Union Um and you're like, 270 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: what the hell these people look like there's still twenty Yeah, 271 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean certainly because she was young enough she could 272 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: have I think she could have gotten like a decade 273 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: if she would have gotten I think twenty years. So yeah, 274 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: if you look at characters like Bianca Lawson, she's still 275 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: playing teenagers and shows like she was just in Riverdale. No, 276 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: what was it? Is it? Riverdale? Now? She was in 277 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: a recent one I can't remember, but she plays a 278 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: high schooler still, and she was a high schooler Buffy 279 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: the Vampire Slayer the series, as well as uh say, 280 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: the Last Dance. So people like that, you're like, maybe 281 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: they maybe there are immortals. I've been thinking about this. 282 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. You think I think the uncle 283 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Lawson could be an immortal. Got Paul Red for sure? Yeah, 284 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Paul read right up there, Like you started looking and 285 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: you're like this doesn't at Pedma lotched me. It's right 286 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: there too, Like, how do you look younger than me? 287 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: This is amazing? But I will say I feel like 288 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: I look young within me. I feel like I look 289 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: younger than me. I'm just saying my so, yeah, younger 290 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: than me? Yeah, sure, sure, sure, okay, Well maybe immortals 291 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: walk among us. I'll pin that and think about it later. Um. 292 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: But back to do this. Other than Andy and Nile, 293 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: you have Nicolo and yusuf are Nikki and Joe, and 294 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: their immortality began during the first Crusade. And of the 295 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: immortals that you're the only ones that don't regret immortality 296 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: because their immortality resulted in giving them each other. They're 297 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: the only ones that's sort of they have this person 298 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: that they love that is also not going to die. Um, 299 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: also immortal. Uh yeah. And they did have a very 300 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: violent beginnings. They killed each other many times. Um, but 301 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: through that they fell in love. You've you've heard it 302 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: all before, I know. Uh. In fact, they were on 303 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: opposite sides of the crusades and they killed each other 304 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: and they kept repeating that, yeah, and kept coming back 305 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: to life and then fell in love. And that's I mean, 306 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: that's just how it is. It's beautiful. Mm hmm. Next 307 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: up is Sebastian Luva slid Booker and I love Loli 308 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: for a Samantha in case you don't know, is French 309 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: for a book that makes so that's why he's Booker. 310 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I laughed and laughed and laughed. He became immortal in 311 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: eighteen twelve Russia, and he was a soldier in Napoleon's army, 312 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: and he died after you attempted to dessert after he 313 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: was freezing and starving, but he was caught and left 314 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: hanging for three days before the army left his body. 315 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: And he had four sons who grew up to detest 316 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: him as he aged, and they didn't and he didn't, 317 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: and they thought, well, why can't you share the secret 318 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: with us? And obviously he couldn't, so there was a 319 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: lot of bitterness there, right. So next we've got James Copeley, 320 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: not an immortal, but he's actually former CIA according to 321 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: the movie, who is helping the main big bad after 322 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: losing his wife to cancer. And they did. He is 323 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: one of those that changed from the comic to the movie. 324 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: They kind of changed his character a little bit to 325 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: give him a little more depth, but a lot of 326 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: the critics really believe that those enhanced the movie. Um, 327 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: and he is going to be I guess on the 328 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: sequel because he's going to be their new like dude 329 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: in the chair. Yeah, he's the one that's gonna actually 330 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: help them hide essentially is what they wanted. Um. And 331 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: then that brings us to Steve Merrick played by Harry 332 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: Potter's Dudley or Dude is always gonna be a villain. 333 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: I feel so bad for him already, and he does 334 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: such a great job at being awful. Is he is 335 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: the big bad um, at least in this one. Most 336 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: places describe him as a big farmer bro. He does 337 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: talk about how he's the youngest billionaire. Who do see 338 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: that a lot in the Youngest Executive or CEO. Um, 339 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: And he's looking to harness yes, immortality, which is seemingly 340 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: in a lot of plots. He's cruel and it's just 341 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: and a lot of his experiments are carried out by 342 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: Dr Ivan or doctor Metacosk. Yeah, and she's kind of 343 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: a small character in the movie, but she is pretty 344 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: awful too. Yeah, It's just it's odd the juxtaposition of 345 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: like young far Mo bro who thinks, who doesn't care 346 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: the consequences of his actions, but then you put him 347 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: next to immortals who have seen like everything a thousand 348 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: times Um, it just makes him feel so young and 349 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: like stupid right, not still dangerous absolutely, but just and 350 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: the audacity that he has in his little last scene 351 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: and calling her a selfish bitch. Mhmm, And I'm like, 352 00:20:54,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: what what, Yeah, yeah, she so we do. That's the plot, 353 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: that's the overview. We do have some themes we want 354 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: to discuss, but first we're going to pause for a 355 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back, 356 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: niky sponsor. And I guess one of the big themes 357 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: I picked up on was loneliness and uh, just this 358 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: idea that I know a lot of us have have 359 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: thought about, and it's been in our pop culture for 360 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: a long time of if you were immortal, which it 361 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: seems so many people at least in media want, what 362 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: would that actually mean, especially if your loved ones weren't. Um, 363 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: just the question like seeing people pass away and die 364 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: not being unless you were all immortal together, which by 365 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: the way, it just sounds annoying. Yeah. Maybe I'm just 366 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: telling him like, look, I'm already sored of you forever, forever, ever, ever, ever. 367 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it in that way. 368 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what if you don't like each other, 369 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: what happens? It's kind of like death becomes her the 370 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: two women which you haven't seen either, have you? Ah? 371 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: But they live forever, but of course they're decrepit and 372 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: falling apart. If something's damaged, it stays damaged, all of 373 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: these bad things. But they hate each other, but they're 374 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: they're cursed to live together or be with each other forever. 375 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: Is that really a great thing? Well? I guess that 376 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: leads into my question I was gonna ask you, would 377 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: you want to be immortal? No? I don't think. I 378 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: think that would be the last superpower I would ever want. Yeah? Uh, 379 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: like what I want to live a rich fulfilling life. Yes, 380 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: but I feel like eventually, with all the highs and 381 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: lows that we go through, what I want to see 382 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: things repeat it again and again and the mistakes. I 383 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I think I'd be on Andy's side of like, yeah, 384 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: is it really changing? Is it really worth it? Right? Yeah? 385 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: And it's it's funny because, as you know, one of 386 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: my favorite movies is What We Do in the Shadows Um, 387 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: which is a different type of immortality. But the writers 388 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: of that movie said, like, I feel like a lot 389 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: of people like to believe if they were immortal, they 390 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: would get so much done. But what if you just 391 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: you just don't well, I mean, that's kind of the 392 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: whole thing with quarantine, is the fact that we have 393 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: to stay home, and we've had to stay home. If 394 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I just didn't have these things that I would have 395 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: to do or all these plans that have to do, 396 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: then I would be more productive and then are like, no, 397 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm not well, yeah, you know, quarantine is an interesting 398 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: metaphor for immortality because it does feel like, well, in theory, 399 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: I have all this time, but somehow it just bleeds 400 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: into one almost like day slash night, like just it 401 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: doesn't end right. Honestly, some of the times I'm just 402 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: waiting for bedtime. I'm like too early to go to 403 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: bed now, to early go to bed now? I mean, 404 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: I seriously do, And of course that's a whole other conversation. 405 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: But I'm still procrastinating. As you know, I have nowhere 406 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: to go, but I still procrastinate. That's what we need. 407 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: We need the story of the Old Guard, which shows 408 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: like them not being in battle and doing things. How 409 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: did they spend their downtime? Well, according to them, they 410 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: just all hit away for a year. It took a 411 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: year break and then they I'm back. But you don't 412 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: know what they did in that year break. Well we 413 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: know what Booker did. Yes, he was plotting. He was plotting. 414 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: You've got a Plotum. Would you want to be immortal? Ah? No, 415 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: like my nature answers no. But I tried to think 416 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: about it in terms of, well if I had other abilities, 417 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: like is it just immortality? Or can I do other things? 418 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: They couldn't, but they trained, really, they'd see they're fighting. 419 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: They might have procrastinated, but they they really put in 420 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: some training so they could do the fighters. But do 421 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: you want to fight all the time? Would that be 422 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: something you would want to do? Yeah, that's true. That 423 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: would be exhausting. So maybe you and I wouldn't be 424 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: the best immortals. Maybe that's why it's soldiers that usually 425 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: become immortals and not because they also served live. Yeah. 426 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: I do think it's been interesting for me during quarantine 427 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: because I am such an extrovert, but I don't find 428 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: myself getting lonely, and I think that's what a lot 429 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: of people were worried about. You also have a really 430 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: great group, Like that's one of the things that I 431 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: think about with certain people who who may have struggles 432 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: and like I don't completely well. You also make effort 433 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: to have friend shows, but like you also surround yourself 434 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: with people who are going to check it on you 435 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: and they know you really well and know your weak spots. 436 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: That's actually really good because you're also very communicative of 437 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, typically, so that's different. So you 438 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: are a little different. I think in this quarantine is 439 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: that people have no a that if they need you, 440 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: they can reach out to you. B If they can't 441 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: reach out to you, something's wrong and they need to 442 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: can't find out what's wrong. And see, you have a core, 443 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: you continue with the friendships from the past. It's not 444 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: like you have a big blow ups. It seems as 445 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people can. Yeah, And I guess that's 446 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: ultimately the key to if I was going to be immortal, 447 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: I would have to have my immortal group right, not 448 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: by yourself. Yeah, I couldn't do it, like I could 449 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: for a while, but eventually you could hide away like that. 450 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: They're not hidable, no no travel. See if we were, 451 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: if we were immortal pals, then it would be an 452 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: interesting storyline for sure. Um. Yeah. Another another theme is 453 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: one I really want to come back and talk about, 454 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: is the anti heroin uh And. I feel like at 455 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: least they're on does such a good job of being 456 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: the anti area. Between this and Atomic Bomb and even 457 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: with um uh Mad Max, she does a really great 458 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: job with all of the Yeah, and I would say 459 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: she does it at least in those cases, and maybe 460 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: particularly since we're talking about this one today, she does 461 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: it in a way that I feel is different because 462 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times the anti heroine is so burned 463 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: that they at least project that they could care less 464 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: about what happens to other people into the world. But hers, 465 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: it presents more like she's burned because she can't do 466 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: more and is worried that what she has done isn't enough, 467 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: Like she still cares and she's not really even trying 468 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: to hide that, because I do think most anti heroines 469 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: do still care. Um, But she's not even trying to 470 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: hide it. It's just that she feels like almost this 471 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: loss of faith. Am I doing what I think I'm doing. 472 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: I've been here for millennia. I think she does what 473 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: a lot of women do, is they focus on the 474 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: value is more so than success, which is why she 475 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: couldn't see it, and Copley could because he researched back 476 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: on these are the things that happened as for many 477 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: women and many who I think are on that spectrum 478 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: of level of like, I've done this wrong and all 479 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: I can focus is on the bad. And as podcasters, 480 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: we've learned. I've learned I focus really hard on critiques 481 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: over the compliments. And I think that's kind of a 482 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: telling sign of the anti heroine. Is not necessarily that 483 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: she's so Jada that she's going to flip it all 484 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: lose it. It's just I've not done enough, and here 485 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: on my failures will tell you why. Yeah, that's a 486 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: really good point, um, and that I would be really 487 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: curious to look at a comparison of the male anti 488 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: hero versus the female anti heroin and just what is it. 489 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: I think it's probably very similar, but it just presents differently. 490 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to look at it. I mean, we 491 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: need to look at John Wick versus Atomic Blonde. Oh, 492 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I'd be into it. I'd be so And they love 493 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: each other, Charlison in a kana. They love each other, dude, 494 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: they do. Actually they really are, Like they filmed several 495 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: movies together and they actually are really good friends. I 496 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: love this so much. Okay, it's okay, that's so good. Okay, 497 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: keep going, Okay, Okay. Another thing I was really interested 498 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: in is just how well they did the immortality thing 499 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: in terms of kind of your maturity level. Almost But 500 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: there is this big betrayal in the movie, and but 501 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: that it's predictable. But I loved it. Yeah. I think 502 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: I have spoiled on it because I started researching this before. 503 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: No why why So I think I knew the whole time. 504 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I So, I can't say about that. But yeah, so 505 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Booker portrays them, um and at the end they're arguing 506 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: about what to do with them, what his punishment should be, 507 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: And it was kind of nice to see Andy be like, 508 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: not angry necessarily, just you know, this is your punishment. 509 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: You have to accept it. I'll see you in a year. 510 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: And if you have lived that long hundred years, hundred years, 511 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's why he says, I won't see you, 512 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: will I because she becomes becomes mortal, right right, well 513 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: we'll see ye yes, yeah, but just kind of seeing 514 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: that play out was really fascinating to me. Right, Um, 515 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: and that goes back to the question of immortality. How 516 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: long is a hundred years? Really? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, which 517 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: was cool. It was cool that, Um, the writers clearly 518 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: put thought into that. Ah, what would you be like 519 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: if you've lived that long? Oh, I would be so crusty. 520 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm already old and crusty now. I could not imagine 521 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: a hundred years from now if I was still here, 522 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: how old and crusty I would be. Yeah, they all 523 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: still looked pretty good. They're still I'm talking about my soul. 524 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh both right, sure, Um, well, let's move on from 525 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: that then. Violence. This was another theme in there, and 526 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: and the way they handled it was interesting because comic 527 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: book movies are pretty violent, although a lot of our 528 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: mainstream ones handle it in a way that feels sort 529 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: of cartoonish, like you never see dead bodies per se. 530 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: It feels very like, oh, they're unconscious, not dead. Then 531 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: you're not really sure. Um, And and this one is 532 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: much more violent, and oh they're dead. And that is 533 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: something that at least Andy and Nile really struggle with, 534 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: is we'll look at the carnage we're causing for good. Um. 535 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: And this is something I struggle with and in my 536 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: writing all the time, is when you have a good 537 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: character who is really violent, who uses violence to accomplish 538 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: these good things, how do you reconcile that? And and 539 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: I talked about this and when I did the Last 540 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: of Us to review Ludo Dissonance, how do you how 541 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: do you put that together? Um? And then on top 542 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: of that, I wonder sometimes if here in the United States, 543 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: we've presented violence and murderous sort of the easy solution, 544 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: and that's where our minds go because I've I've definitely 545 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: played video games where they challenge you not to kill, 546 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: and it's so much harder. And it's it's strange that 547 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of our media has, whether 548 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: we know it or not, conditioned as to think the 549 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: easy way is to kill someone, right. I don't know. 550 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: That's the debate with like use and um, young adults 551 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: about whether or not they're so acclimated by media that 552 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: violence is a norm. And then outside of that, it's like, no, 553 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: it's completely different, and you need to think on the 554 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: loss of life and all of that and what does 555 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: that really mean in the end, And yeah, I think 556 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: this is definitely one more and I say this is 557 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: my comfort the list, And it's not in that sense 558 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I'm not a fan of seeing Gore 559 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not okay with it, but again, like I 560 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: think for me, it's like, Okay, I can differentiate. This 561 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: is a movie movie, but they are a little more 562 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: realistic when you see the injuries and the violence, Like 563 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: you don't see that as much when it comes to 564 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: the opposition or the enemy, but you see that more 565 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: so for them themselves who can heal which says a lot. Yeah, yeah, 566 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: And I suppose there's like two arguments we made there, 567 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: And one is we talked about this a little bit 568 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: in our Female Revenge episode. But it's meant to be 569 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: over the top, so you're not supposed to necessarily take 570 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: it as a stamp of approval of violence. It's just 571 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: sort of a fantasy getaway entertainment um. And then you 572 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: could argue, like is it better to show the real 573 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: damage and make you feel that, or I would I 574 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: would say that's just a different movie. Um, but yeah, 575 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: I've heard people argue about that. And and in the 576 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: context of violence and American media's particularly um and that 577 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: you can see that debate play out with Andy. Like 578 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: you said, Samantha, one of her quotes is some good 579 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: means nothing, or the world isn't getting any better, it's 580 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: getting worse. Um, talking about what they've done or in 581 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: her mind not done. And then she's reminded at the 582 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: end of no, you saved all these people and caused 583 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: all these things that were good to happen through your actions. Um, 584 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: but I do think that's a real moral quantry, right. 585 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: And then you also have to remember that they do 586 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: have the scene Niles is from, Um she was stationed 587 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. Is opens up with her being in this 588 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 1: volatile situation and and UM, I was watching it with 589 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: my partner who automatically was like, oh, no, is this 590 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: like a feel good for military? And you gotta remember, 591 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, as much as where you want to say yes, 592 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: the military does protect us, there's also a lot of 593 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: like where as the line of romanticizing what is happening 594 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: in the military and those that are stationed out of 595 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: the country. UM, in defense of we don't know what, 596 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: what are they actually defending? Is that? Is it actually 597 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: freedom or is it for other means? Yeah? Yeah? And 598 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: what is it glorifying? But yeah, this is the whole 599 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: big conversation because like you want to enjoy a movie 600 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: at the same time the realistic like background. It's like, oh, 601 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: I remember, so my older brother is the best at 602 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: ruining a movie for you. And I remember seeing Iron Man. 603 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: I think it's two thousand and eight, that came out 604 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: two thousand nine. I'm walking out and like, oh wow, 605 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: that was really fun. He was like, yeah, it was fun, 606 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: excepted romanticize the violence in Iran. He goes off, it's 607 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: all the thing. I was like, I didn't pick up 608 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: on that at all. I'm sorry. I just thought it 609 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: was fun action. But that's the thing is he's not wrong. 610 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: What is it putting into our heads about what's happening 611 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: and what's being defended and what's being okay and whether 612 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: it's villainizing the Middle East and what's happening in the 613 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: Middle East and not putting a whole picture as opposed 614 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: to glorifying our military or you know, it is the 615 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. Oh, absolutely, And we're big, big proponents here 616 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: of always being mindful of your media and the messages 617 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: that it is imparting to you and children. Right, I 618 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: will say they did quickly run away from that, and 619 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: we're like, okay, this is just the means to a plot. 620 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna linger here, moving on. So I will 621 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: say it did that, but it's kind of like, oh 622 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: oh oh no, and I did. I wanted to put 623 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: in here when uh Andy, as we've alluded to, she 624 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: potentially it looks like has lost her immortality. And it 625 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: reminded me the first time I played The Last of Us, 626 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: the first one, because in a lot of video games 627 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: like that, you can just kind of be shot like 628 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: twenty times and not die, so you can be very 629 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: like just run in no plan the Last of Us. 630 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I fought a zombie and 631 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: I died in one hit like twenty times in a row, 632 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, so so I really 633 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: got to play on this. I kind of do this 634 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: a little better. Yeah, because she suddenly had to worry 635 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: about how I could die. I can't just take a 636 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: hit and get back and take it off. Yeah. Yeah, 637 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: that's what it reminded me of. Um, And Okay, so 638 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: we do have a little bit more we wanted to 639 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: talk about, but first we have one more quick break 640 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: for our word from our sponsor, and we're back, Thank 641 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: you sponsor. So another thing we wanted to talk about 642 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: is queer representation, because this did come up a lot 643 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: when I was searching what were people talking about when 644 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: it came to this this movie, and one of them 645 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: was the love between Joe and Nikki, And this is 646 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: caught a lot of people su to mentioned for a 647 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: lot of reasons. Um. First, pretty rare to see gayme 648 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: in and action movies, um, outside of like a very 649 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: passing cameo um and kissing and sharing affectionate touches. It's 650 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: also rare to see gaym in and mythical movies. And 651 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: and some people, some articles I read, argued that this 652 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: solidified that the lgbt Q plus community has been here forever. Um. 653 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: And these characters and their relationship doesn't feel token at all, 654 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: and they also feel they both feel pretty fleshed out. Um. 655 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: After they are captured and a guard mocks them, asking 656 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: if one of them is a boyfriend, Joe says, you're 657 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: a child. He's not my boyfriend. This man is more 658 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: to me than you can dream. He's the moon when 659 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm lost in darkness, and warmth when I shiver in cold, 660 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: and his kiss still thrills me even after a millennium. 661 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: His heart overflows with a kindness of which this world 662 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: is not worthy. I love this man beyond measure and reason. 663 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: He's not my boyfriend, he's all he is more. And 664 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: then they make out and it's such an amazing thing. 665 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: It also kind of leads to another violence thing where 666 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: they try to break them up and end up they 667 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: all die. Yeah, yeah, they definitely. Joe in particular did 668 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: not take well to that. The relationship is such a 669 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: really adorable and loving relationship. Even in the scene where 670 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: they're on the train and they're just asleep cuddling and 671 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: they just need to be with each other, it's just 672 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: really really nice. It's sweet, and it was it was 673 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: refreshing to see. It's one of those things where when 674 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: you see it, you're like, oh, why can't I see 675 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: more of things like this? Right? Because it wasn't over 676 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: the top. There was no level of queer baiting, there 677 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: was no level of um making them a caricature of themselves. 678 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: It was just who they were and their strength and 679 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: then who they were in their love Yeah. Uh and 680 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: they were funny too, they were they were funny together. Yeah. Yeah. 681 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 1: And and it's really resonated with a lot of people. 682 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of articles about, like I love 683 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: this movie, but the thing that stood out was that 684 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: speech alone. It was beautiful speed. Oh yeah, that speech 685 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: all day. Yeah. Just to remind you, this is like 686 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: an action movie with immortals, and they found each other 687 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: in the Crusades and I've been together pretty much ever since, 688 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: so that is that is very rare. And it didn't 689 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: feel it both. It didn't feel out of place, but 690 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: it did feel very new, if that makes sense. It 691 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: felt shockingly real. Yeah, and that's not what you typically see. Yes, yeah, um, 692 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: it definitely. I don't know. I was going to say 693 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: it felt like the heart that they were hard of 694 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: the team, but I feel like there were multiple hearts 695 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: of the team. They were definitely the hope of the team. Yeah, yeah, 696 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: for sure. Um And and some people have interpreted the 697 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: relationship between Quinn and Andy as queer as well. Um, 698 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,479 Speaker 1: when they're they're both captured, who knows, way back when 699 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,479 Speaker 1: um trials in England, Yeah, what was it? I don't 700 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: know which which trials. Yeah, I was trying to think 701 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: it's it's in it's in England, right Britain. I don't know, 702 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: I believe. And it was doing that point because they 703 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: were being seen as which is yeah, and they got 704 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: separated for being quote too powerful together and some people 705 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: have seen that as queer representation, and Andy certainly spent 706 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: a very long time looking for her. Although again this 707 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: can go back into a conversation of ken any relationship 708 00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: people a tonic these days. Um, but know that that's 709 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: a big plot line in the sequel, so I guess 710 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: we'll be seeing more of that. I need a sequel, 711 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: give it four years, I know, right, But I do 712 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: I need that sequel? Well, you can read the comic 713 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: book in the meantime, but I need Charlie's need you 714 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: need Charles, I understand. I'm just saying so. Yeah, So 715 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Quinn, who is played by a 716 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: Vietnamese actress. And actually that's one of the changes that 717 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: they made from the comic to the movie. She was 718 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: not originally Vietnamese, but because she is, her origins are Vietnamese, 719 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: they changed her name and character in the movie to 720 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: represent her, which I love, as it should be. M hm, 721 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: as it should be. I'm I'm excited. I'm excited. Uh 722 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: and and I'm glad that you suggested this one, Samantha. 723 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: It was a fun I was like, this is so fun. 724 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let's let's just do this one because 725 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: it's got a great director, it's got a great actors, 726 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: and it's going to be a really a good plot line. Yeah. 727 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think this is our first feminist 728 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: movie Friday where we're like on French, look at us, 729 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: look at us, look at us. Well, speaking of for 730 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: the next one, please send us any suggestions. Um, I 731 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: think Samantha's pushing pretty hard for I'm very annoyed. But no, 732 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: not let me have that again. Not annoyed, I'm very 733 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: appalled that you have not seen that. I cannot believe. 734 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: Like Heather's I kind of understand because that was a 735 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: little before you, definitely a way before you, but a 736 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: leak of their own I feel like should have been 737 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: in your will. Um four. Um, Well, in either case 738 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: it should be rectified. But if you have any other suggestions, listeners, 739 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: we would love to get them. Maybe we'll do another 740 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: watch party soon. Um, yes, you can send those suggestions 741 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: to our email which is step Media Mom Stuff at 742 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: i heeart media dot com. You can find us on 743 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: Instagram at Stuff I've Never Told You, are on Twitter 744 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: app mom Stuff Podcast. Thanks as always to our super 745 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: producer Andrew Howard, Thank you, and thanks to you for 746 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: listening Stuff I've Never Told You, the production of iHeart Radio. 747 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit iHeartRadio app, 748 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.