WEBVTT - CHASE GRIFFEN - Meat Ball'n

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests. Former UCLA quarterback and Name, Image and Likeness

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<v Speaker 1>Athlete of the Year Chase Griffin is in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. This is a very unique You're a very

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<v Speaker 1>unique guest, So I'm very honored to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't get a lot of athletes, okay, and we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely don't get a lot of athletes with a resume

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<v Speaker 1>like yours.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. Now I'm glad to be here cooking

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<v Speaker 2>some good food.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, So before we get into your whole story

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<v Speaker 1>of who you are, can you tell me what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have me eating today?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>So today we're gonna make some spaghetti and turkey meatboats.

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking with my mother when I was figuring

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<v Speaker 3>out what I wanted to cook, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>left spaghetti your whole life, And she sent me a

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<v Speaker 3>picture where it was a school assignment, probably like the

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<v Speaker 3>first or second grade, and I was talking about how

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<v Speaker 3>much I love spaghetti and meatballs.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still wasn't most like the last time you

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<v Speaker 1>ate this dish?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably last week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. So you really now when you sent the

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<v Speaker 1>dish over, you were talking about making the meatballs from scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, guys, I didn't even want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a hater. I just was a hater only because I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, I didn't know if you could handle

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<v Speaker 1>that much cooking and talking. But I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>learn from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean either way, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>The store boughs, so it'll be good, really because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hear your story. All right, go ahead, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can start whipping up these turkey meatballs. And is

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<v Speaker 1>there a reason why it's turkey by.

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<v Speaker 3>The way, Yeah, I didn't really grow up eating pork,

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<v Speaker 3>but beef meatballs are good too, just just but turkey

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<v Speaker 3>was always sort of to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I did learn and I didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>at this back. But what I've noticed with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of groceries now because I don't eat pork or beef really,

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<v Speaker 1>is that they be having a lot of hidden ingredients

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<v Speaker 1>in the fine print. It'll say like turkey meatballs, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it'll be like put some pork meat in the

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<v Speaker 1>very very tiny pit to tiny print, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't check our bag. But hopefully we're good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so go ahead, take me back to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, five year old youth.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, I was living in Texas. I was born

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<v Speaker 3>actually at UCLA Santa Monica Hospital, So going back to UCLA.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like a homecoming for me.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents didn't want me growing up in La so

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<v Speaker 3>I had moved to Austin really round Rock when I

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<v Speaker 3>was four. At that time, I just started playing violin

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<v Speaker 3>and I just started playing soccer, which is still probably

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite sport to watch nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer. Yeah, but you ended up playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Football, definitely the other football. But I think I always

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of energy as a kid, even in soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>Was really aggressive and I liked, you know, that aggressive,

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<v Speaker 3>violent nature of football.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one thing about me.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though I wasn't always the biggest player, I could

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<v Speaker 3>always take a hit and football has opened a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of doors from me. I'm always grateful for you. You

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<v Speaker 3>have siblings, Yes, I'm the oldest of three. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so at the time when it was when I was five,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just my sister and I.

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<v Speaker 2>She's two years younger than me.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a senior at Stanford right now, shoutout road, super

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<v Speaker 3>proud of her. Yeah, he's only eleven, so he's got

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<v Speaker 3>all the upside in the world and now he got

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<v Speaker 3>two extra helpers and my sister and.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how you positioned that. But as a young

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's your your siblings. Did you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Waynes interview? Yeah, your older siblings have a huge impact.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's always sort of informed how I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen my trajectory, like, not only how does it affect me,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, God will in my future family, but

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<v Speaker 3>how does it affect.

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<v Speaker 2>The immediate younger siblings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we're gonna keep the pasta up.

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<v Speaker 1>Big big shoes whatever. You don't do that one put

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<v Speaker 1>plastic on the stove.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the meat balls, I read the package for you,

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<v Speaker 1>just a case. They said, just put water in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom of the pot. I put a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of water over there, and I don't know. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they turned brown. I haven't made these. I'm trusting you

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<v Speaker 1>defeat us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that'd be good.

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<v Speaker 3>They just got it as long as they could.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, Like they're pre cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just eating you just gotta heal man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go back to the violin, because where does

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<v Speaker 1>this enter in the scene where you're playing about can

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<v Speaker 1>you currently play the violin?

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<v Speaker 2>I still can. I'm a little rusty.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't play the way I could when I was

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<v Speaker 3>growing up, and that's because I was playing every day,

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<v Speaker 3>like as a as a child, I was practicing all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. And then in middle school I played, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the Strings Project, which was University of Texas talent

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<v Speaker 3>development program, and then my chamber orchestra at my middle school,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say it was one of the best chamber of

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<v Speaker 3>orchestras in all the public.

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<v Speaker 2>Schools in Austin. So but I've always loved music, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was even going back last night listening to some

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff I was listening to when I was

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<v Speaker 3>like five, six, seven, eight years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember there's a song called hell Yeah by

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Z and Dead Press that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Really loved, and you could play that on the violin.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, but I could still wrap it word for word.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've just always had a love for music, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Even more than sport. That music is the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I produce music, so you know, in my

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<v Speaker 3>spare time, whenever I'm not working on finance or not

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<v Speaker 3>not you know, working in media. That's that's where I

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy spending my time. It's both you know, productive, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's good for the mental it's a creative space.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were younger, did you know that you want

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a particular field of interest that you felt

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<v Speaker 1>like you were going to lean towards when you got older.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted to go to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the main thing was I was raising a

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<v Speaker 3>household of love and household where like potential was potential

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<v Speaker 3>was celebrated, so I never really felt like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have the ability to be excellent and anything

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<v Speaker 3>that I put my mind to. My passion was sports,

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<v Speaker 3>and I liked violin.

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<v Speaker 2>I prefer music production, so I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Say my main passion was sports, but the school always

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<v Speaker 3>came first.

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<v Speaker 2>That was always the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to make sure, even if I didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>the offer I wanted coming out of high school or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that, I'd be able to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Into any school and walk on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thankfully, I was a good enough player where that didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were a straight a student in school.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, no debating that.

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<v Speaker 1>So take me back to your parents. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>home environment you know, get so UCLA and a Stanford.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid, definitely, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was blessed to have both my parents

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<v Speaker 3>very present in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never doubted that I was I was well.

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<v Speaker 3>I never doubted that if I put my mind towards

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<v Speaker 3>something I couldn't grow in that. You know, we grew

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<v Speaker 3>up middle class in Texas, and you know, I will

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<v Speaker 3>say like I think I had more privilege than some

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<v Speaker 3>of my friends, especially at my high school, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>always stuck with me because I understand what platform and

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<v Speaker 3>with the things you're blessed with, it's a blessing to

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<v Speaker 3>be a blessing to others. So whether it was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>giving rides or just spending time now, it's really about

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<v Speaker 3>sharing perspective with my friends. I've been blessed with a

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<v Speaker 3>wealth of knowledge through experience, I think for a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four year old, and wherever I can help provide either

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity or guidance, you know that that's always big to

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<v Speaker 3>me to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Were your parents strict on who you could be friends with,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>More so, I think they trusted my discernment. I think

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<v Speaker 3>when raised the way that I was raised, you just

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<v Speaker 3>learned to go where your love, your godho where you

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<v Speaker 3>feel you know, at home.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think something good about me is I do see the

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<v Speaker 3>good and everyone like I'm a Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>First, and so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a regular word.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just I can't look at anyone and not

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<v Speaker 3>see them as you know, a brother or sister, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So as far as staying away from certain things, definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>But as far as staying away from people, like avoiding people,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never felt in me to do that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand, like you know, depending on your self

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<v Speaker 3>confidence or depending on your ability to stay strong in

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<v Speaker 3>that you have to behave a different way. But for me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I always feel pretty secure and committed to

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<v Speaker 3>remaining myself no matter the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what did your parents do for work?

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<v Speaker 3>So my father he's a consultant, you know, he's worked

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<v Speaker 3>in the media space, he's been an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my mother is a teacher.

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<v Speaker 3>She actually she teaches first grade at the at the school.

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<v Speaker 2>Where my brother goes. Yeah, yeah, it was funny. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he loves it. He loves.

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<v Speaker 1>Your brother is gonna be strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really so excited for him.

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<v Speaker 1>You said he's eleven, Yeah, his fifth grade. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big age gap. Your parents were like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not even sure what they thought process was

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<v Speaker 3>on that, but that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Big age gap. You were like a full teenager. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you excited when you're you're gonna have a little baby baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Think? I was in shock. I had to sit down. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like for the longest it was just my sister.

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<v Speaker 3>And I, and you know that that's sort of the identity,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's me and Rose, Me and Rose, me and Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I had always prayed for a brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny enough, but you know, it's on God's time and

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<v Speaker 3>not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>That stream.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's a lot of order, you could scoop it out,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know, Yeah, yeah it should be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the This is what happens when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a set win no sink. You gotta kind of make

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<v Speaker 1>it do what it do as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well as a plastic doubl I don't think so right.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing good. So I had a feeling that there

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<v Speaker 1>was an entrepreneur in there, because the whole mindset of

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<v Speaker 1>I could do anything. I said my mind too. Sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like complete typical delusional entrepreneur. That's how you have to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I was looking at a at an interview.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it buster Rhyme's like, it's not lousional if

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<v Speaker 3>it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's very true.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're you know what you The world sees

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<v Speaker 1>you as delusional until it happens, but you I think

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<v Speaker 1>every entrepreneur has to be. The signature ingredient of being

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<v Speaker 1>an entrepreneur is you just have to be the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>dreamer and you you really do have. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>look past your environment. Right, you're creating a world that

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<v Speaker 1>no one has seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the part of part of creativity, and the

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<v Speaker 3>most beautiful part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it's two sided.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's really nothing original, there's nothing new under the

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<v Speaker 3>sign but at the same time, there's always going to

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<v Speaker 3>be innovation. That's what makes people people that we where

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<v Speaker 3>we come from a creator, so we have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to create.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of the reason why I love music so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't speak like a twenty four year old. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. I know that sounds good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if people tell you that, but you just seem

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<v Speaker 1>well beyond your years. Your parents could teach your parents

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<v Speaker 1>in class.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, they're they're the best parents in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think, I think, I mean, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>See how each one of us turns out. But i'd say.

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<v Speaker 3>To today today, right now, they're just looking good today,

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're excellent. And you know, I'll always be grateful

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<v Speaker 3>for the household, always raising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to the point where your mom could say a

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<v Speaker 1>five year old picture of that's that's pretty impressive. Your

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<v Speaker 1>parents are still in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're still there there. They'll probably raised my brother there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my sister she's moving down.

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<v Speaker 3>She's about to graduate and so she's moving down to

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles and we'll see. We'll see if my parents

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<v Speaker 3>make a migration out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because now two of their kids are out here right.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly exactly, so we'll see. And you know, they've lived

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<v Speaker 3>here before. You know, both my sister and I were

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<v Speaker 3>both born here.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the chance is high because they like

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<v Speaker 1>to be by.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>But I definitely think for raising gage, you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>little brother, I definitely think you know, it would make.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense to stay in Texas. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they know how to raise a child in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's some different elements out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Las. Yeah, I feel like Texas is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely better homely family.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always grateful that I came from where I came from,

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<v Speaker 3>that I was raised. You know, it's a little bit country,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but it's quiet, and you know, I really

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<v Speaker 3>you were talking about not getting in in the wrong

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<v Speaker 3>crowd and all that. There's enough space for where you

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<v Speaker 3>can really choose, you know, who you spend time around.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes in cities you sort of get, you know, mixed

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<v Speaker 3>up into it and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's harder to avoid certain realities.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, now that I kind of got a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you grew up in a very good environment.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hearing that. Yeah, let's get into you decide

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<v Speaker 1>that you from a young young and that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the NFL. So you start pursuing this path.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing the parents like yours. They were like, heck, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>If we're gonna do it, we're gonna do it big

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<v Speaker 3>as that's sort of regardless of what it is, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know that that really applies to every part of

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<v Speaker 3>my life, and it's why I think I'm not like

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<v Speaker 3>extremely attached to, you know, any one thing. It's more

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<v Speaker 3>about just continuing to be my best self in whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>The opportunity is, so you graduate high school, the first

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<v Speaker 1>school you get into, you choose UCLA.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so my first offer was actually Yale, and the

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<v Speaker 3>way I got that offer was crazy. I was at

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<v Speaker 3>a camp called QB Collective and it was put on

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<v Speaker 3>by a guy named Richmond Flowers, and he's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the best agents when it comes to NFL coaches, and

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<v Speaker 3>so all of the coaches at the camp were NFL

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<v Speaker 3>coaches at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a I think he was an analyst or.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe a past game coordinator, but his name was Mike McDaniel.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike McDaniel went.

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<v Speaker 3>To Yale, saw me there and felt like I was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best quarterbacks at the camp. They all

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<v Speaker 3>had assumed based off my performance, I had a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch offers. This was coming after my sophomore year. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>thrown for three thousand yards. I was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best sophomores in Texas and they assumed I had a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch officers.

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<v Speaker 2>They like, where do you have offers from? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I have zero offers.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I was I was probably five six, five seven

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, not ideal for a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>But regardless exactly exactly, they didn't care. They tenth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>They were asking where your offers were.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, football, you know their kids would offer seventh eighth

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<v Speaker 3>grade and it's probably getting earlier and earlier as training

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<v Speaker 3>gets better.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were in a camp. So did your parents

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the camp or how did that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So we were, we were invited. I forgot how

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<v Speaker 2>we got connected.

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<v Speaker 3>My father has always been so good as far as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, going back to if we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to do something, we're gonna do it the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm big fans, but when it comes to how you

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<v Speaker 3>how you do things, you have to seek out expertise.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, he had he had heard about this camp.

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<v Speaker 3>He had seen this camp, and so you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have we had reached out, got connected with Richmond, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Richmond did some research on me and it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>come out. Well anyways, McDaniel, who's now head coach of

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<v Speaker 3>the Miami Dolphins, he's a Yale alum and he called

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<v Speaker 3>up the head coach at Yale and said, I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to pull up this guy's film. Pulled up the

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<v Speaker 3>film offered me that day.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was how I got my first offer. And

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<v Speaker 2>then after that, oh, we returned beyond Billboard.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's always been I think a dream of my

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<v Speaker 3>father to have one of us go to Harvard, yeah school.

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<v Speaker 3>So when Yale was the first offer, you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>was ecstatic, but I'm sure, yeah, exactly what's up Harvor?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, down down the line.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard definitely became a viable option. I was actually going

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<v Speaker 3>to go the week that I committed the U c

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<v Speaker 3>l A. I think I went to u c l

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<v Speaker 3>A on a Tuesday. I was supposed to go to

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard on Friday. And if Harvard would have offered me

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<v Speaker 3>that Friday, I might have committed, but UCLA got to

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<v Speaker 3>me first, and I committed on spot.

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<v Speaker 1>What did your dad say when he found out on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday that Harvard?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I think part of good parenting

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<v Speaker 3>is you have to you have to realize, now, if

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<v Speaker 3>it was Harvard and then some other university that that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't you know, prestigious or something like that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he would have stepped in and been like, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 3>think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, but you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know U c l A when it comes to its

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<v Speaker 3>black history, as far as Jackie is running, Curtsey, Jackie Robinson,

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<v Speaker 3>Ralph Bunch, Like, there's just so many folks who've changed the.

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<v Speaker 2>World, who've come through there and been athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, on the school side, number one

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<v Speaker 3>rank public institution in the country, it's in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 3>it's beautiful, weather is always good, and there's just so

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<v Speaker 3>many factors to where I think, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Boston would have been a little chili.

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<v Speaker 2>Permafrost for six months.

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<v Speaker 1>Your parents are so proud. I'm sorry. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a you know what. You could play this

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<v Speaker 1>for them, you know what I'm saying. You can say,

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<v Speaker 1>go listen to the episode. They're gonna be very they'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably cry a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always very appreciative man. You know, like my father,

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<v Speaker 3>he's always dream big for his family. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whether he acknowledges or not, I really respect him for

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<v Speaker 3>the transformation he's done. And it's all about building upon

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<v Speaker 3>others work. Like my my Gigi, my my father's mother

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<v Speaker 3>did a lot of work to make sure that her

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<v Speaker 3>two kids, you know, went to college and went on

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<v Speaker 3>to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he come from a two parent household?

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<v Speaker 2>No he did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's done a lot of work to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>progress his family and God willing, I'm able to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing when it's my time, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think right now it's about building my foundation. My sister

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<v Speaker 3>is going to start living. We'll live together starting in June,

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<v Speaker 3>since we'll both be working.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to I was going to ask you that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, are you guys going to end up roommating?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, we are, So I couldn't, you know, choose a

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<v Speaker 3>better roommate. We shared a bathroom growing up, so we

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<v Speaker 3>know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I always wanted to live with my siblings

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<v Speaker 1>when I got older, and it never happened though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we never roommate it all right, So you choose UCLA.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's let's get into the gritty gritties, and I

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<v Speaker 1>yell is in effect?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah in twenty one? So what year did you go?

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<v Speaker 2>I got to UCLA in twenty nineteen, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And that process, that recruitment process was really you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there were a lot of ups and downs, and it

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<v Speaker 3>sort of taught me how to, you know, just trust

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<v Speaker 3>in my faith and continue producing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, can we talk about the ups and downs?

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<v Speaker 2>And definitely? Definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I got the early Ivy League offers

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<v Speaker 3>and then after that, you know, UCLA.

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<v Speaker 2>Was really my first Power five offer. Power five.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, at the time, there was the PAC twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was the big five conferences?

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<v Speaker 1>Can it down for yeah, the women?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well just for the folks that yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was the PAC twelve Conference, the Big Ten Conference,

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<v Speaker 3>the Big twelve Conference, the S, and the ACC. These

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<v Speaker 3>were considered the Power five just because these schools had

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<v Speaker 3>the most money, biggest media deals, and theoretically best players.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't have any of these offers just because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm five to ten and as a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>you know a lot of colleges won't even look at

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<v Speaker 3>you if you know you're you're not a certain height,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, there there were definitely schools that were interested.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just waiting on the first Power five. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't give them that chance. I'm like, well, if

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<v Speaker 3>UCLA had had the confidence and conviction to offer me,

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm not going to wait on some other school

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<v Speaker 3>that was waiting on them to offer me. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>how it works. Plus, Ucla just had so many other factors.

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<v Speaker 3>I think academically, if I was going to pass on

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard had to be either UCLA or Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of fine institutions out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe if NIL was around while I was coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I was, I was the Gatoray Player of

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<v Speaker 3>the Year of Texas my senior year. There might have

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<v Speaker 3>been a school in Texas, or there might have been

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<v Speaker 3>a school in the South that might have had a

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<v Speaker 3>two or three million dollar an IL deal waiting for me,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would have you know, that definitely would have

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<v Speaker 3>factored into my decision. Yeah, but I think for the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>Once once they offered I was, I was fine with going.

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<v Speaker 3>But until then, like there was a lot of waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>I the IVY leagues are amazing schools in the football

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<v Speaker 3>they play is good. But I always knew I was

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<v Speaker 3>playing against guys who were committed to Oklahoma or committed

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<v Speaker 3>to Florida or committed at Ohiose State, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>beating them, and I was I was out performing other

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks with thirty forty offers, and I just knew that

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<v Speaker 3>I should be playing out of school at this caliber

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to football, and that would provide me

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<v Speaker 3>the best opportunity to go to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you have well, before we even get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep mentioning the five to ten. Yeah, did that

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<v Speaker 1>have any type of mental warfare in you point or

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<v Speaker 1>put different points?

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, I was blessed because I had school,

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<v Speaker 3>So football was do or die.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I knew if everything went to nothing, I would

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<v Speaker 2>get into Harvard like I believe that in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>or get in anywhere. So football wasn't do or die.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the thing I loved the most. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a disappointment though.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to camps where I would go and the coach

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<v Speaker 3>would be like, man, you's so good, like we love

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<v Speaker 3>your film.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't miss it, throw the entire day like ever

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<v Speaker 3>before or five stars there, you know, missing missing a few,

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<v Speaker 3>thought I'm not missing. I would go in an entire

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<v Speaker 3>month of camps without one in completion, and it just

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<v Speaker 3>showed it's not always all on merit. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>important to learn that, you know. I think as a

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<v Speaker 3>kid like it's important to do everything you can to

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<v Speaker 3>have the best merit, but there's always other factors in play.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, I think realizing that early.

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<v Speaker 3>And still not letting that stop me from reaching my goals.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a test of faith, you know

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<v Speaker 3>at that you know at that age you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the perspective your dream is really all that power as

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<v Speaker 3>you And for me, I felt like my dream kept

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<v Speaker 3>on getting deferred.

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<v Speaker 2>But part of trusting.

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<v Speaker 3>God is gonna work out better than you even pictured

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<v Speaker 3>it for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were having the conversations about the height one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. I think that's totally relatable, but it's also inspiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would always look at quarterbacks in the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>who were out performing guys who were six five there.

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<v Speaker 3>I would look at Drew Brees, who's an Austin kid.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's why Saints are still my team, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Russell Wilson, like these are guys who are either

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<v Speaker 3>six foot or shorter than six foot who are some

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<v Speaker 3>of the best quarterbacks to ever play the position. I

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<v Speaker 3>never knew what it was like to play at six too.

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<v Speaker 3>I only knew what it was to dominate at five

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<v Speaker 3>nine five. Uh, and so I never saw it as

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<v Speaker 3>something that was hindering me.

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<v Speaker 1>You do you think that that also made you play

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<v Speaker 1>harder and better.

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<v Speaker 3>I never played with the chip on my shoulder because

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<v Speaker 3>of the height. I just honestly, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm a pretty genuine.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy or a pretty well mannered guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But it comes with like even as a little kid,

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<v Speaker 3>like I enjoy beating other people, like I enjoy keeping,

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy keeping score, I enjoy winning, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I approach every aspect of my life like I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>measuring myself off other people. It's just like your competitive Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like why can I not be the best at this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. So Okay, so you're at UCLA, you're

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<v Speaker 1>killing it. But when I look at your bio, you

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>have all these other goals. And the one thing I

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>was talking to my producer with was, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>someone that's clearly looking like they're going to the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, you know you're talking about getting your doctorate,

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<v Speaker 1>you're working on your masters right now? Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I actually I have two masters from UCLA,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm surprised at all. Yeah, I'm finished with school,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for now.

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<v Speaker 1>You have two masters already. Yes, what are they say?

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<v Speaker 3>The master's education? So I did that. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>program that worked well with the football schedule. I got

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<v Speaker 3>my undergraden two years, so I got my undergradden public Affairs,

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<v Speaker 3>so I still had four years of eligibility, so I

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<v Speaker 3>had to be in school. So I wanted to make

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>sure I did Masters that. You know, I wasn't just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in class for football sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Did all your schooling in.

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<v Speaker 2>Six years, but all my undergraden too? Yeah, how I

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<v Speaker 2>came in with some units okap tests and then I

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<v Speaker 2>also real smart, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister is the really really smart one. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>she got into Sandford straight up. But I know how

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<v Speaker 3>to do school well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know how to cook well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching you and I appreciate. Yeah, you gotta steam, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 1>I see.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a seer and steam.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I should have had you make the meatballs

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<v Speaker 1>from scratch. I did not think he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be this good in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's all good. I grew up with an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>cook in the house with my mother. Whenever my father

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<v Speaker 2>would makesteaks, they'd be good too. He put a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of seasons, a lot of a lot of Tony saturies.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever watch all of the videos online and they're

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<v Speaker 1>making the steaks and the only thing they seasoned it

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<v Speaker 1>with is salt and pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's more for health reasons. I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And definitely in our community there's there's certain medical certain

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 3>medical predispositions that that we struggle with. So I do

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>understand when people are vanilla with the seasoning did s.

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<v Speaker 2>But speaking for myself, I definitely prepare. I mean I

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>definitely I'm a seasoning prefer for a well seasoned meal.

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<v Speaker 2>Now a little water.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to do the sauce, yeah, season the sauce.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna add the

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<v Speaker 3>sauce in directly with the pasta.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, just you know, are you a big sauce

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<v Speaker 1>guy or like a little bit of sauce?

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 2>I like sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>I like sauce too. Sometimes I meet people They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you put so much sauce on it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, I don't understand why. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't you can't. Actually this this is what the Italians do.

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<v Speaker 3>They add the actual pasta water back in with the pasta.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're at UCLA. You're getting all these sponsorships

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Are you pursuing them or they pursuing you?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you walk me through that?

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So actually I got my first sponsorship through LinkedIn. So

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<v Speaker 3>any young professional, any young any young person, just make

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<v Speaker 3>a LinkedIn. You never know what it will lead to.

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<v Speaker 3>You might meet the person who gives you your first

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 3>job on there. For me, I met the person who

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 3>gave me my first endorsement, deal guy by the name

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 3>of Rob Master, who at the time he was handling

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of Unilever in Therefore Degrees Marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Unilever works closely.

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 3>They managed a lot of a lot of companies on

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 3>the advertisement side, but namely Degree and Degree had a

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 3>campaign with staying the Up, winning awards for it called

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 3>the Breaking Limits campaign, and in this we all told

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>our story. For me, I told the story as far

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, a lot of you know, quarterbacks my

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 3>size being overlooked, but because of the caliber player I was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we still were successful.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, we were still able to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that really catapulted my early career just because

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<v Speaker 3>it showcase you know, there were folks who maybe thought

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't going to get you know, all the big

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 3>deals or anything. Well, my first deal was a big deal.

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 3>My first deal is a big deal with a categorical leader.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>And then early on I also had Boots, Mobile and Shell,

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<v Speaker 3>so I already had, you know, within my first three

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<v Speaker 3>to five deals.

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<v Speaker 2>I had three you know, marquee brands, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was able to also earn enough from those deals to

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<v Speaker 3>also you know, tie like as a Cristian like, I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to give ten percent of all of my money

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 3>made and still want to continue that to organizations or to.

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<v Speaker 2>Causes I care about.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, at Huddle High School, a lot of my

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 3>teammates and a lot of the community depended on the

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 3>school to eat during the day, so they would either

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>be on like free or reduced launch or breakfast. And

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have been able to reach my goals without

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, my teammates are without my best friends in

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 3>my high school. And so once I had money, I

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 3>wanted to make sure that I was giving towards a

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 3>cause that helped with that. So, you know, in particular,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>my biggest partner to date has been the La Regional

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<v Speaker 3>Food Bank Wow, and in particular their program where they

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<v Speaker 3>provide meals on the weekends to LAUSD school children who

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 3>depend on on freeline.

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>They provide the school on the weekends.

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 3>They provide meals that way, when they're not at school,

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<v Speaker 3>they're also able to have sesseness.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I know LA has a lot of homeless kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, in working you know, with the

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 3>food bank and doing more research on how my foundation

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 3>can help, I think you sort of see like hunger

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 3>and children and homelessness and children are not things of

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 3>the past or not things of you know. Obviously it

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 3>happens in other countries, but it happens in America a

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 3>lot more common than people think. And I grew up,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, serving at our local serving center, and there

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 3>we had a food bank, we had a food pantry,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm seeing, you know, folks where maybe it was

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>a teammate's mother or a friend's you know mother and father,

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>they're picking up food and I'm just like hey, And

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 3>then I realized, oh, my goodness, like my friend is

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 3>relying on the serving center to eat. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the time when you come from household

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 3>like mine, where you know, I was blessed to have a

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 3>mother who enjoyed cooking every night. You sort of you

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 3>don't realize that people, It's not a far away issue.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Food and security is something that affects people that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know right now and that you care about right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, when you got your first sponsorship deal and you

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>started getting these sponsorship deals, how did you conduct? How

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>did you negotiate? How did or how did who played

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a hand? Was it you?

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 3>It was really just my father and I the whole way. Really,

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 3>I was self repped, and I wanted to stay self

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 3>repped just because I felt like nobody could tell my

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>story like mine. And I also enjoyed the process. I enjoyed,

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, making first contact with the company. I enjoyed,

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Making the first contact or them reaching out.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>To their way. You did it in the way either way.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes sometimes I would be at an event and I'd

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 3>be speaking and a CMO would be there and chief

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 3>marketing officer and they would be like, we really love

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>your story, we really love how you're able to present

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 3>a brand and present yourself.

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's find a way to work.

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>And you know, as a creative, as someone who loves

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 3>music and loves film.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I really enjoyed the creative process.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 3>So in all of my fifty plus brand deals, for

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>the vast majority of them, I was creating the creative

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 3>or I was working with their creative director to creative

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>and then I was creating a shot list and the

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 3>interests of time where you know, initially my first shoots

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>took three four hours. It's like, no, if I spend

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 3>two hours ahead of time working on shot list, the

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 3>shoot turns into an hour match and it provides more

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, vision as far as for the final product.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>With my with my videographer editor of choice. Yeah, so

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I really found my way.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you get the media part of the background

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<v Speaker 1>a game?

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<v Speaker 2>My father he's worked in media, and then what does

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<v Speaker 2>he do in media though on the production side.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think I also I just have a

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<v Speaker 3>I've always loved movies like.

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<v Speaker 2>My town.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we could go to downtown, but the nearest

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 3>place that was sort of like my haven that I

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 3>spent my time was the movie theater. So I would

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 3>I would, you know, we'd have our games on Friday

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 3>night and on Saturday, I'd love to go to the movies.

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I would go with friends, but Honestly, I love

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>going to the movies by myself.

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I just I just love the actual movies.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do that.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no I sometimes I don't realize that. You know,

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't do that.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 3>But I've always enjoyed it, and I've all enjoyed movies,

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 3>and so to be able to do productions and to

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, sort of world build in a way with

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>primarily the brand's key performance indicators in mind, I think,

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, being able to create value out of art

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 3>is one of the most beautiful and rewarding things.

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So you have a degree in education. Yeah, are we

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>almost down to you sitting with me?

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I know. Let's get him on the other mics. Nobody

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>likes the live mics and production. Really, no one does.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're an audio person, the live mics are like

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>your enemy, and then these mics are your friends. Yeah,

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll complain on the other side real quick. But all right,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>sorry about that. Didn't mean to derail you.

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh no worry.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you're doing all these deals with brands, and

0:33:57.760 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>this is in twenty twenty one, This is like three

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>years since twenty one, right, So this is becoming your

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>actual revenue stream. Yes, yes, and you're now running a

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>business of your own and your dad is watching his

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>son go to school and like have enough business to

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>even tie, Like, yeah, you're starting tie.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 3>It was great just because you know, I think definitely

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 3>there's a perspective shift once you start making money.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you say that perspective shift is.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think there's a sort of confidence that comes

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 3>from what I'm doing is creating value, not just for others,

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:36.919
<v Speaker 3>but also for me. And that's one of the best

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.720
<v Speaker 3>part about athletes being able to capture on the revenue

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 3>they create. It's like we've been value creators forever. We

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 3>just haven't been able to capture on the.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Entire part of the value.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Of course, we've been able to get to school, but

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's just so much more. Frankly, if you're

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 3>helping someone make money, I think you should, you know,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 3>for taken in a share of that revenue.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 3>We were barred from that, you know, for a long time.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>And when I first got to UCLA, that's how things were.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Now in twenty twenty one one, aspect changed a bit

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 3>name image and likeness, where we were able to do

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>endorsements and things like that.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know this coust that changed.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 3>There were a sleuve cases, so it was primarily on

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 3>the legal side.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>One of the one of.

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 3>The biggest heroes in the history of I think college

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.959
<v Speaker 3>athletic rights is Ed Obannon, a former Brewin Nate Smith

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Player of the Year, national champion. So shout out at Obannon.

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 3>But he had sued the nc DOUBA for utilizing his name,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>image and likeness and the NCAA EA Sports basketball game

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 3>and so that's why they had to stop producing that

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 3>game because they weren't paying the athletes air affair share.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Now they brought him that I'm older. He wasn't fresh

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>out of college. It was a little bit later, but

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>that was and he was ostracized for it, even by

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the Brewin community. I know.

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>It was really a shame. Now we've taken steps to

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 3>welcome by. I still don't think he's received the glory

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 3>that he deserves for the stand he took.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>That's literally changed the trajectory forever and changed, don't feels being.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, every every chance I get, I try to sing

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 3>his phrases.

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's worked very hard. Have you ever met

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>him or no?

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know there there there will be a day

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 3>in time for that absolutely.

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So, so that was what the start of it, and

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>then what happened after that.

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 3>So after that, there were a slew of other cases,

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Speaker 3>most namely Austin versus NCAA, which in twenty twenty twenty

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 3>one called in to question the anti trust exemption that

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 3>the NCAA has. The reason why the NCAA has been okay,

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 3>the reason that NCAA has been able to act the

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 3>way that it does is it's had anti trust exemption. So,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, policies that aren't really in accordance with other

0:36:55.200 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 3>aspects of the American economy, they're able to operate, you know,

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 3>in their own sort of set of rules.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 2>That's how you have unpaid work.

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Basically, as far as the Austin versus NCAA case, it

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 3>called in to question that anti trust and the NCAA

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>saw the riding on the wall and so they started

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 3>rolling back their restrictions. You know, in twenty twenty one,

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 3>they rolled back their restriction on athletes capitalizing on and

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 3>exercising their name, image and likeness rights and then now

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 3>revenue share. Because of House versus Day, there was a

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 3>settlement where around two and a half billion dollars will

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 3>be paid to athletes from twenty twenty and on and

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>then because of this settlement and because of this precedent,

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 3>now athletes from revenue generating sports are going to be

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 3>getting paid every single year.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>But is there any for any of the previous.

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>So there's some back pay and I'll definitely capitalize on

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 3>that chance.

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you Oh, you're gonna pray over it all?

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Got you got you do? You got a waitingness this morning?

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Giving us this food, please ud be nourishment to our

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 3>bodies and thank you for giving us this opportunity to

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, spread your platform in your son Jesus name.

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Man, Amen, appreciate. I just saw King of Kings in

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the movie theater.

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Last How was it?

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>It was good? I don't know, because like I read

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the Bible when I was like twenty nine. Okay, I'm

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>raised Jewish. Jews don't really talk about Jesus.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 3>It's a different perspective, like how you put it.

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, because I know it's so well now,

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to see it play out. Have you just

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>signed out before we Your food is great. By the way,

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>there's a book series called Jean Edwards, A Tale of

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>three Kings Prison and the Third telf. He does like

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>this fictionized perspective of what like John the Baptist went

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>through or King David went through.

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's like a David's second best story in a Bible.

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>When I say, I promise you these books are like

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>two three hour reads, but you will read them and

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you will be like it just I don't know. It

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>gives you like a feeling of kind of like their

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>emotional like what they were processing in their like feelings

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that I think the Bible does a really good job.

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think to like carry the weight of like

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>being Jesus's cousin and knowing he's healing people and you

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you about to get your head chopped of, you know,

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like to kind of go through that that feeling in

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>those motions or whatever. Anyways, watching the King David The

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Kings of King's movie, I did feel like it's interesting

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>after like reading the Bible to see these different perspectives.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But I did think about the Geen Edwards series a

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>lot while I was watching the movie, like, damn, I

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>would love to see them do a movie based on

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the Gene Edwards series.

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean to me, the religious movies are hit

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 3>or missed with me, but they're always fascinating.

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 3>I think part of the beauty of religion and faith

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 3>is it is so personally like it is subjective as

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 3>far as your walk with God.

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Can't I can't judge somebody else.

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>No, no, but sitting here with you, I just got

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>an idea. I was like, we should only do a

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Geen Edwards series. You should read the book, should read

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the books. I'll order them and amazon them to you

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And and then since you're into media, you

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>could be like, yo, I think we should do this

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>project because there are so many like projects that are

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of like off. You look at the Chronicles of

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Narnia and all of those guys. You know, they do

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>do these perspectives. But if you read the Gene Edwards books,

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, I just feel like it just captures like

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole different embodiment of like walk with them. Like damn,

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>that is a difficult situation to be it, you know.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why you know, the story of David to me

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>is just just fascinating.

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Like the Bible is far from boring. It's got some

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>of the you know, the messiest characters.

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Is the first time I read it I was like,

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>there was like, what's in there? I said, incests, right, murder,

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of crazy stuff.

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 3>It's got the gambit as far as you know the

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 3>darkest parts of humanity, but also you know the best

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 3>parts of God.

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your food is delicious. I said you could cook

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was watching you salt and I was like,

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>we go see it came out good.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be seasoned. Absolutely. I grew up watching the

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>best in my mother.

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So from an outsider looking in, you would assume

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that based on everything you've said, you would you would

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>be looking towards going into the NFL definitely. But then

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you read your resume and there's a pivot in there.

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So I want to know what's going on.

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So now I work in finance.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 3>I work at a pension endowment fund called University California Investments.

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>And Pension Endowments.

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 3>So when you think about four one ks, it's not

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 3>just magical black box that you're putting a piece of

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 3>your paycheck into.

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>It's literally what I think.

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's somebody managing that account, and that's what

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 3>a pension is. So we managed on behalf of University

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:15.760
<v Speaker 3>of California Office of the President.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>And also, you know all of our.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Pensioners, which are primarily University of California employees.

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean you decide where that money is invested,

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>like with stocks and bonds.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Or precisely so they're interesting. You know our team with

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 3>creating returns and protecting that wealth and then also providing

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 3>you money to the schools whenever they needed.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Now what made you get into that line of work?

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I met our chief investment officer a few years ago

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 3>speaking out in event. I think he was a keynote

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 3>that was one of the panels, and I was just like,

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 3>what is University of California investments?

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even really know about it.

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.800
<v Speaker 3>I think I had some good business acumen. I've invested

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.280
<v Speaker 3>almost all the dollars I've made from NIO.

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Very serious. Yeah, you didn't buy like a bunch of

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Jordans with it.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're Jordan's school, so I got some ones. Yeah,

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:09.919
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, thank god.

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>But I meant like, you didn't blow any of it

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>on anything.

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 3>So when I got to school, I sort of set

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 3>my spending habits I lived off of and you know,

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I hate asking anybody for money, so like, I just

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 3>lived off of the money I was getting from the

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 3>school off of my scholarship, our cost of living, and

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 3>our rent was paid for all of that. So I

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 3>just continued that, you know, all the way through my career,

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 3>and I sort of looked at my NIO money a surplus.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I'd give away, you know, a portion of it and

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.280
<v Speaker 3>then the rest I'm investing for the future.

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>And did you invest with this firm or no?

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 3>So I invested, you know, personally, just within you know,

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 3>a regular brokerage account.

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So did you learn that early on.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Stocks and all that, I'd say early on compared to

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 3>most you know, I've been investing since I started making money.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's you started making later.

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably probably. I wasn't investing as a kid. I

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't have money as a kid.

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Well where did you learn how to invest?

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Really from experiencing?

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Then my father he's you know, he's always had a

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 3>broker's account, and then he was just telling me the

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 3>money that are now, like I should invest it just

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>because the multiple, the earlier you invest, that multiple just

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 3>continues to ac crew. It's like having my own personal

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 3>sort of retirement or down payment for a house.

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Or you know, rainy day fund.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I really look at it as my primary savings account.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like that. So where did the pivot from

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Well, your trajectories to say, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to do the NFL anymore.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, early on in my career at UCLA,

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I played more and I played really well, especially in

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty season.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 2>But over the course of my career, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, depending on whether it be you know, injuries or

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, more pertinent just coaching decisions, I sort of

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 3>saw like, if I wanted to play, I was going

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 3>to have to transfer. If I wanted to play, you know,

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 3>the amount of time I wanted to play, I was

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>going to have the transfer.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>And that was something that was weighing on my mind.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 3>But I also saw you know, the upside on what

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I was doing on the media side, the upside and

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 3>being LA on the sports media side, and then you know,

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>started to build that relationship with University of California and

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 3>felt like I was really building a professional home for myself.

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>All that being said, I think if I was you know,

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 3>chasing the dream one hundred percent, I probably would have transferred.

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not happy. I mean, I'm not you know,

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 3>unhappy with how it turned out. Like, I'm very grateful

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I still have my health, my mind, my capability of thinking,

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 3>and those are things you really can't take for granted

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to, you know, everything that football has

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 3>done for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think as a as a mom and a woman,

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>my fear would be if like my son went to football,

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>because I did you ever watch the Netflix documentary It

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>was like on I think football players and their money, Yeah,

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 2>What my business?

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think I think my mother probably

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 3>was praying over me every single.

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Play, you know, so she did talk about it a

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit percent.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 3>And you know that that'll be a conversation for my mother,

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 3>my father, and my little brother just because he's getting

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 3>to the age where he'll probably start playing tackle football,

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, more regularly.

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, I feel like in the back of my

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.760
<v Speaker 1>mind as mom, that's that's a be like of all.

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Dreams one hundred percent.

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and like I know the amount of injuries.

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I know, the amount of like just being hurt, whether

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 3>it be emostly like the spiritually drained and then especially

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 3>physically like you just is a culture where you got

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 3>to play through it. And I think that's a skill

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 3>set one hundred percent. But I also think, you know,

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 3>as a parent, you you may think twice as far

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 3>as you know, pushing a child into that. I don't

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 3>have kids, so I don't really know my perspective on that,

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 3>but I know watching my brother out there play, I

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 3>will definitely you know, be helping, you know, each play

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 3>he just gets up the same way that he started

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 3>that play, because that's.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 1>That's something that's when you're watching.

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Him, you know.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 3>For for myself, you know, I mean, yeah, it's like

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I've definitely have my bell rung. I've definitely been hit,

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's like next week you've not seen the same

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 3>way out your left eye. But it's also myself, like

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 3>I it's something that I love and something that I

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 3>accept the risk doing it. But when it's somebody else

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 3>that you love, you know, there's sort of a different

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 3>aspect included.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>So what's the end goal?

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 3>So if I were to say what I want to

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 3>really do in generalized terms is build generational wealth early,

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I think like that there's a lot of work that's

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.720
<v Speaker 3>gone in for generations, generations to get me to where.

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm at now.

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.720
<v Speaker 3>And God has you know, done all the heavy lifting.

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really just about taking advantage of opportunities now,

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 3>So continue to learn, continue to recognize my weakness and

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 3>play to my strengths, and then you know, going to

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 3>public service and philanthropy, whether it be you know, holding

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 3>elected office one day. I just want to be able

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 3>to affect change with a platform that I've been afforded.

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, as I.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 3>A crew more and more wealth, I can be better

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 3>in my scale as far as philanthropy, and then do

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 3>all of that while maintaining my faith. If I do that,

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, I know, you know what, whatever sort of

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 3>struggles or whatever is next for me, whether you know

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 3>it be a future family or things like that, I'll

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 3>be you know, well prepared for that.

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you super goal oriented at home?

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:32.799
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I think my parents set a lot of goals for

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 3>their children, and I think every good parents should.

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 2>For me.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the biggest planner. I'm more, you know, evaluate

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 3>what the opportunity is and just work the best at that.

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Something will come out of that. That's sort of where

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 3>my trust in God comes, just because I feel like

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.439
<v Speaker 3>trying to say how things are going to be five

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.879
<v Speaker 3>years from now is Vain's vain.

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't know as.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>A person, but what about like a year out a year?

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>What I mean?

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I think setting goals is definitely good and I think

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 3>for some For me, my goal is just each and

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:08.640
<v Speaker 3>every day, like what's on the calendar.

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm going to be so good on this

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.879
<v Speaker 2>like that. That's sort of how my mindset is. And

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll look down the calendar a little bit.

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 3>But part of being really busy is you got to

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 3>take it day by day because if you have four

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 3>or five meetings, you know three of them are three

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 3>completely different things. You have to be able to sort

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 3>of disassociate and lock back in on certain things. You

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 3>can't be thinking about what's happening down the line when

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 3>when you're there, you'll be prepared for it.

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I find myself counting ours, Like if you're ever hanging

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>out with me, go and you'll be like what are

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you doing? And I'll be like, I'm counting ours because

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I count. Yeah, I'm constantly counting, like how long does

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it take? To my girlfriends? We went to a birthday

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>dinner and one of my friends was like, what is

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>something that you've you know, you've done it. You'll be

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>proud of. I was like, I have no idea. I'm

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 1>stayingful for my friends. And they were like, yo, your

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>time management is in back of oh, And I was

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like time management And then I started thinking to my

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>dad was like, yo, nobody you call it four o

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>two and you say where are you gonna be at

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.359
<v Speaker 1>four or three tomorrow? She'll know exactly where and how

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>long it takes. And I didn't know. I've become like

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>anly obsessed over how long.

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Down to Yeah, I think that's the coolest part about

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, sports, It's like you have to be regimented

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 3>by nature. I've been you know, doing twelve for you know,

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 3>fourteen hour work days between sports and school since I

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 3>was you know, since I was like six or seven,

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, I would go to school, then I would

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>train after them homework. It's like after by then, do

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 3>you did a twelve hour work day in your.

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Seventh That was gonna be my next question is like,

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 1>what's the day in the life of you right now?

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 3>So for now, Like I always try to start my mornings,

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, started out immediately with prayer and then you know,

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 3>some type of music. I love sending verses out to

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 3>people so I always send it. There's a small group

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 3>of people. I send it on one.

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Of those I get friends that do the DM.

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not blowing up in boxes. It'll be just

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, one or two you know, quick verses. Yeah,

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's really whatever verse I was going to read,

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll just share with other people. And you know, there's

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 3>some folks that really enjoy that. And then you know,

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 3>after that, I try to get a workout in, you know,

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 3>whether it be you know, running or lifting.

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>And how long is that? Like an hour?

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I keep it to thirty minutes, thirty minutes. Yeah,

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm passing like your I'm past.

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm past the two and a half hour you know,

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 3>workout blocks of football. I'm not trying to impress anybody.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I start out with some cardios, then you know, do

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 3>three or four core lifts, you know, and then you know,

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 3>finished with some cardio and I'm in.

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, I'll tend to have like my.

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 3>First meeting around like ten or eleven, and then you know,

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I'll do a few meetings and I take take an

0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 3>hour for lunch. Maybe you know, practice on you know,

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 3>either do music or practice on a skill set and

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 3>then you know, I have my afternoon meetings, which is

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 3>normally like one or two, especially since we're on the

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 3>West Coast, a lot of the meetings are in the

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.720
<v Speaker 3>morning because that's early afternoon for New York and abroad.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, I like that.

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:17.919
<v Speaker 1>And then the weekends are off.

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, honestly, for weekends, I spend a lot

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.760
<v Speaker 3>of time on music. That's sort of like my recharge time.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Even during football, like when we were out of season,

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 3>that would be when I'd go to the studio, like

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 3>because studio sessions go from like yeah.

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And they never have windows. Yeah, never wonder you walk outside,

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like.

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's like the casino. I don't want you to

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:40.240
<v Speaker 3>know this daytime.

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for spending time with me

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>today and feeding me. Truly an honor to sit with you.

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I really enjoyed it. I appreciate it.

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.080
<v Speaker 3>If food was good, I appreciate the appreciate the ingredients,

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 3>camera coop was good, and went forward to watching the

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Send it to my family.

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You better the parents. Shout out to the parents.

0:52:58.680 --> 0:52:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Really really thankful for all the work you did with Chase.

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:11.799
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