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Speaker 1: the episode. Well, Hello, Hello, how are you man?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I am well, Actually I am surprised

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Speaker 2: you call. I was listening. I heard you say holy shit,

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Speaker 2: and here I go.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so I got a message. So for some

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Speaker 1: context to those who are listening. I got a text

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Speaker 1: on the geck line from you saying, Hey, I'm the

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Speaker 1: bounty hunter that ran over the rocks, almost crashing while

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Speaker 1: listening to you. So context to that. There was this

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Speaker 1: video that I kept getting tagged in on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: TikTok of a dude who like crashes his car running

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Speaker 1: over a bunch of rocks and like it's some like

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Speaker 1: viral car crash video and in the car he's listening

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Speaker 1: to this podcast and I wouldn't. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: people could go to watch this video or what they

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Speaker 1: can google. But anyways, I kept getting tags in this

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Speaker 1: video and now I'm talking to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's super dope. So I posted it on

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Speaker 2: my Instagram because I run a small channel of all

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Speaker 2: the downy hunts that I do kind of like Patty

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Speaker 2: Mayo but real stuff. Uh, And so I was out

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Speaker 2: hunting for a person listening to your podcast. It was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: probably one in the morning, pitch Black taking a canyon

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Speaker 2: on the way home, and these rocks jumped out from nowhere,

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Speaker 2: and ironically the best timing was after I crashed over them.

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Speaker 2: You said, and that's the best you can do, and

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Speaker 2: that's how it ended. I was like, well, that's the

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Speaker 2: best I can do right there.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got to say this in the video, and

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where we'll put it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll link it in the episode description or something. But

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Speaker 1: in this video it kind of look. You got a

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Speaker 1: lot of negative comments on the video because here I did.

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Speaker 1: It kind of looks like you crashed the car on purpose.

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Speaker 2: Well, hear me out, So here's what happened. So I

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Speaker 2: just spent the entire day, maybe eighteen hours, searching for

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Speaker 2: this guy, and I did catch him, but after that

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Speaker 2: it was really late coming back. And my defense is

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Speaker 2: the camera, in my defense, sees better than my visions

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Speaker 2: long because it was dark and my headlights weren't that great,

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Speaker 2: and we were coming around to curve and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's the rock. But you're right. People

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Speaker 2: commented on that video and it was just NonStop negative,

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Speaker 1: Now really quick, I gotta say this. What's your name?

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Speaker 2: My name's Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Jamie. It sounds like you're driving right.

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Speaker 2: Now, ironically I am.

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Speaker 1: Are we about to see another video online of you

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Speaker 1: talking to me while you grash your car?

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Speaker 2: Know. I was actually on my way to work. I

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Speaker 2: do another job at night as well, so I'm on

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Speaker 2: my way to work right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what's this channel that you do? Because I

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Speaker 1: didn't look through the whole channel. I just saw this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the channel you can find it on Instagram

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Speaker 2: and all the other platforms. It's the same thing. It's

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Speaker 2: it's a bounty vault, like a vault of bounties, but

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Speaker 1: And what do you what exactly does it mean to

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Speaker 2: Uh So what I do is, I am I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: That is a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Well let's see, let me get parked real quick.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get a du You're gonna get a dug

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Speaker 2: All right, So on parts for safe Now. So what

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Speaker 2: You can go to a bail bondsman in most states

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Speaker 2: and the bondsman guarantees of the court under their bond

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Speaker 2: that you will go to court. But if you fail

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Speaker 2: and I will return you to jail so you can

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Speaker 1: Okay, what kinds of things are these people accused of doing?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Everything under the sun. You have everything from your

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Speaker 2: all the way up to your really heinous crimes where

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Speaker 2: some real real piece of crap people, all the way

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Speaker 2: got caught up on a bad day.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me when you encounter these people, when you

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Speaker 1: finally find them, how do you get them to come

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Speaker 2: It depends. Some of these people I have a rapport with.

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Speaker 2: I've arrested them five, six, seven times, So I just

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Speaker 2: we have to find them. Just recently, I found a

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Speaker 2: And the way I found them was, of course, I

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Speaker 2: show me and showed me his hands. He didn't want to,

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Speaker 2: so he ended up tased. It took three of us

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Speaker 1: Now, m would you say you have a rapport with

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Speaker 1: these people? So are those people who you've literally rested

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Speaker 1: do they not? How do I mean? After five Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing though, Okay, after five times, is it like

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Speaker 2: No, this is so let's say that's the simplest one.

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Speaker 2: A d u y. You go to jail and you

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Speaker 2: get bailed out on duy. You just never went to

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Speaker 2: you out again on the same exact charge, and you're

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they don't just like show up

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Speaker 1: for what I mean, if they know that they're going

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Speaker 1: the court date?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's you know, the whole

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Speaker 2: play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Some of these people

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Speaker 2: just they don't go. I don't understand it. There's some

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Speaker 2: people that they're court They literally have court the next

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Speaker 2: in two days after bailing them out because they chose

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Speaker 2: could have been the whole situation.

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Speaker 1: How long you been doing this for I've been doing

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Speaker 1: it five years. And what were you doing before before that?

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Speaker 2: I was a school security guard as well as a

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Speaker 1: Ah, Okay, which of these things has been the most difficulty.

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Speaker 2: Schools out of all of it? Dealing with the adolescent

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Speaker 2: to listen.

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Speaker 1: Why what made you want to go into this line

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Speaker 1: of work where you have to, like, you know, handle

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Speaker 2: Well, I would be lying if I didn't say that. Again,

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Speaker 2: I speak adrenaline. It is definitely an adrenaline rush to

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Speaker 2: I googled him and then I realized he wasn't real,

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Speaker 2: So I got licensed, and luckily I have a lot

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Speaker 1: Would you ever want to do something else? Would you

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: I'd like to retire, to retire when I'm fifty, And

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Speaker 1: How much can you make finding people under clothes and closets?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, it depends on a good year. You can

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Speaker 2: make one hundred grand. On an average year, you can

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Speaker 2: make fifty sixty grand a year.

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Speaker 1: What are you operating out of?

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Speaker 2: I operate out of Washington State.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool man. Now, have you ever gotten into trouble?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been to jail or anything like that?

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Speaker 2: Nope. I am a goodie two shoe. I don't like

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Speaker 1: Would it be hot? Would you like run into a

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, if I didn't have I know, I know

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Speaker 2: he's got me.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I talked to a bounding hunter before I met one

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Speaker 1: in one of my interview sessions that I do out

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Speaker 1: in the real world. And uh, he was actually a

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Speaker 1: born again Christian who had had previously led, like I guess,

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Speaker 1: a life of crime and is now yea is now

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Speaker 1: putting other people in jail. He said he was complete.

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Speaker 1: He and he told me something. He said it was

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Speaker 1: he was putting away because he used to do some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I saw I know a video, a

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Speaker 1: Wild man. So I got a question. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: But but she is with the new dude, and she's

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Speaker 2: No way, yeah, no way, No, It's absolutely true. I

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Speaker 1: He also does that is that is a fucking like move.

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Speaker 1: That's a movie live. Your ex girlfriend starts dating a

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Speaker 1: What did what did you arrest him for?

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Speaker 1: Anyway? All right. So, so she's pregnant again with this

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Speaker 1: Pregnant and them. So the mom wants you to just

441
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: start taking care of the new kid that she's having

442
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: with this guy.

443
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: No, the boyfriend does. The boyfriend told mom. The boyfriend

444
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: told Mom, just give just give Jamie the kid. He'll

445
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: take care of it.

446
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: Dude. Some people should not have kids.

447
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: There should be a license.

448
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: They really should. Oh man.

449
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, So I am in a the biggest clusterfuck

450
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: of a relationship that I put myself in, so it's

451
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: it's equally my fault. And then I made a vow

452
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: a kid to the kids that I won't leave, and

453
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to ever leave them, and my

454
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: goal is to make sure that they are as successful

455
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: as they possibly can be given the way they grew up. Hmmm.

456
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: So okay, so this is the This is the opposite

457
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: of the kind of scenario that I was panting because

458
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: I imagined a scenario where she would get with a

459
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: new guy and then they would be like, all right,

460
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: let me get my kids back. But it's the opposite.

461
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: She's in a scenario with a new guy making a

462
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: new kid and being like, hey, can you take this

463
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: new kid?

464
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: Yep. Luckily I put my foot down real quick on

465
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: that because she told me that the boyfriend said that,

466
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: and I looked at her square in the face. I said,

467
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: that's not happening. I go, it's already happened, and I'm

468
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: happy with where I'm out, but I didn't ask for

469
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: a third one.

470
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: What was what was the whatever? I'm losing track of

471
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: the relationships between all these people. But the mother of

472
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: the children, she was talking to you and she pitched

473
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: the idea to you. What was her What was her

474
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: pitch of the idea?

475
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 2: Her pitch of the idea was she was sitting in

476
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: the car with me and he and her boyfriend literally

477
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: texted it to her while we were sitting next to

478
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: each other, and she goes, well, here's what he wants

479
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: to do. After I found out she was pregnant, and

480
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, she shows me her phone, and

481
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: her phone says, just give Jamie the kid.

482
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I said, no, dude,

483
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: what a night. Jesus Right.

484
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: So I'm living the craziest lifestyle out of a bounty

485
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: hunter with crazy living situation, but I own my home

486
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: and I'm happy, and the mom's involved as best as

487
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: she can. And so I guess there's that.

488
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Are you? What about you? Are you going to date anyone?

489
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: Are you on the apps? Are you on Bounty hunterlove

490
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: dot com? What's up with you?

491
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: I wish that there was someone for me. And I

492
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: know everyone's gonna say there's someone, there is someone, but

493
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: I haven't found the time.

494
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: You You're you're optimistic about other people's optimism. I don't

495
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: think that's what people would say.

496
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: I I would like to say that I can find someone,

497
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: but I have tried and I have looked, and it

498
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: is what it is. And if it happens, it happens.

499
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: If it doesn't, it doesn't, I'll be happy with where

500
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm at.

501
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem like a pretty happy guy. You seem

502
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: like you're not spiraling into fits of uh uh depression

503
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: and despair on a constant basis, are you?

504
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Uh No, But I talked to a therapist. It's because

505
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: of your stream that I'm on better.

506
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: So okay, how's that going for you?

507
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, it is probably one of the best things

508
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: I've ever chosen to do. Really, Yeah, to be completely hones.

509
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: I like my therapist. I never thought therapy would be

510
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: for me. I thought that I just had to kind

511
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: of suffer by myself and and that, and it was

512
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: nice to be able to talk to someone and be

513
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: able to lay everything on the table and be told

514
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: that I'm not doing a terrible job, that I'm actually doing. Okay.

515
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: I am very happy to hear that. I just need

516
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: to say this just because I know I people are

517
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: going to accuse me of this. I swear on my

518
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: mother's life. I did not pay this man to say this.

519
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: No I would if I would never do that. I

520
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: just know I'll pay this guy to talk about. No,

521
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: it is not thing that just came up.

522
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I it was. It's the best choice I

523
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: ever made. It's there were so many apps, ironically, there

524
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: were so many ads in all of your Spotify pods

525
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: cast that I just decided to google it and look

526
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: into it, and I was going to try.

527
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Did you did you use the code gecko?

528
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: Of course I used the code get goo.

529
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Okay, And it's working for you. Okay, I'm glad it's

530
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: working for you. I'm glad it's working. I'm glad it's working.

531
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: That makes it very happy.

532
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

533
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway you seem you see, I mean, god,

534
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: this whole thing is is such a crazy scenario. Are

535
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: and so your oldest is in high school right now?

536
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Yep, she starts tenth grade.

537
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: Is she doing? Is she doing? Okay? And in school

538
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and ship.

539
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: She you know, she is so freaking smart, like wickedly smart.

540
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: She's an all honor student. She gets a's and b's

541
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: like nothing. She's also in the junior the j r

542
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: OTC program, so the junior military program, and she she

543
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: is just wickedly smart. And it pisses me off because

544
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: they'll be like, I'm trying to do something and I

545
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: never thought I'd have to go to her and ask

546
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: her how do I do this on my iPhone? Or

547
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: what's the answer to this question? And she just knows

548
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: it up top her head and makes me feel really

549
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: old and dumb sometimes even though I'm not old and

550
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: I know I'm not dumb, but it's crazy just how

551
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: smart she is. I can ask her anything and she

552
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: just knows the answer.

553
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I mean, thirty is so young

554
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: and like, yo, you guys are really not like, oh

555
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: you're very You're very young for a father figure.

556
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: Right well, and especially for her. I get confused to

557
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: being her brother a lot more than I do being stepdad,

558
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: and I understand the confusion and it's something that her

559
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: and I have had to work through. I don't get

560
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: that with her brother because obviously he's a lot younger,

561
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't understand that I was

562
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: much my my interests was very much so of the

563
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: older woman and resulted in her having a family that

564
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: I became a part of.

565
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: How did How does she feel about the convoluted nature

566
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: of of her situation?

567
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: Oh, my oldest Yeah. Some days she she just explains

568
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: it like, uh, that I'm just step dad and that's

569
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: what it is, and people didn't bother her with it.

570
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 2: Other times she she uses me as a bragging right

571
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: because I'm a by hunter. Uh, and it shares the

572
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: boys away, the ones that she doesn't want doesn't want

573
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: around at least mm hmm. And then uh. And then

574
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: other times she gets frustrated because I get confused to

575
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: being her brother instead of the parents that here.

576
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: Do you think is she gonna? Does she want to

577
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: go to college? I mean, I guess it's kind of

578
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: really for that discussion, but.

579
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, she she does. She wants to grow up to

580
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: be a therapist, psychological therapist for military veterans suffering through PTSD.

581
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: That is a wildly impressively specific life goal for a

582
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: sixteen year old.

583
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what she wants to do. And I want

584
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: to make sure it happens for her.

585
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, man, that's beautiful. And the nine year old

586
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: probably likes playing Xbox.

587
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: YEP, NonStop Xbox. I have to keep it on a timer.

588
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: What's he on? What's what's the game is he on?

589
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: Uh? What one? Isn't he on? He is on every game?

590
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: He plays a lot of Roadblocks and a lot of Fortnite.

591
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: And then I have g I have Grand Theft Auto

592
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: blocked because he doesn't need that.

593
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, how great? What grade? What grade

594
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: is nine years old?

595
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: He is starting fourth grade?

596
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, because I start, I want to say I

597
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: first played Grand Theft Auto for in the sixth grade,

598
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: which is probably still not an amazing time to play

599
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: granted THOTO, but yeah, that's about when I started playing it,

600
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: which would be like sixth grades, like what eleven, twelve? Anyway?

601
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: All right, well, before we go, what's your what's your name? Again?

602
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: One more time? Jamie, Jamie, Jamie? What's what's your? Before

603
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: we go? What's the next for you?

604
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Man?

605
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: What's what do you? What's your what's your what's your dream?

606
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: What are your hopes?

607
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: You know?

608
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: What do you do? You are you gonna have anything to.

609
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: You have so much to nav I'm throwing a bunch

610
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: at you, but you have so much to navigate, and

611
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: yet you seem happy. You don't seem as stressed as

612
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: I think I would be if I were dealing with

613
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: everything you're dealing with.

614
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know my uh my big goal in life

615
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: right now is just to make sure they're successful. And

616
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: that said, I am looking. I'm looking for what my

617
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: retirement plan is going to be. I want to make

618
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: sure that at fifty fifty five I am I am done.

619
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: And if that means I need to find a more

620
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: stable career that can be sustaining for the kids and

621
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: myself and keep my home over my head, That's what

622
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. Is whatever whatever benefits the greater good

623
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: for the kids.

624
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: What are you going to do with your retire what like,

625
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: if you are fully retired, what are you going to

626
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: do with your time?

627
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sleep. I'm going to sleep, and I honestly

628
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: I want to travel. I've been around the world. I

629
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: want to go back to Korea. I want to go

630
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: back to Japan and visit some of the places I

631
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: haven't gotten to see.

632
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: What's the What's what? What does your net worth have

633
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: to be before you retire?

634
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, well a million dollars isn't what it's going

635
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: to be, worse than twenty years. But I mean they

636
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: say you got to take your annual income times. I'm

637
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 2: in years and so I don't know million at least.

638
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: See I'm thinking about too, But I'm thinking. I'm thinking.

639
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking differently. I'm thinking, like, how can I train

640
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: my body to not need food and shelter so that

641
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: way I can just retire on the streets.

642
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: You know, right now you still need food. You can

643
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: live on the streets, but you still need food.

644
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this real quick. Does I want the

645
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: chat of any questions for Jamie? Sometimes I'll ask the

646
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: chat for questions or the kids in therapy?

647
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: Yes, both of them are. They are both actively in

648
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 2: professional help.

649
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Someone asks when the kids are grown, are you going

650
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: to leave the situation? It doesn't sound like you are.

651
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. That's a question for the future

652
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: and how I feel.

653
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: All right. Somebody asked, what is your favorite food?

654
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: That would have to be really spicy sushi.

655
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: Really spicy sushi. Well, I hope that you do eventually

656
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: get to retire and go to Japan and have all

657
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: the spicy sushi that you want, and if you don't,

658
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: they have some at the grocery store. Jamie, is there

659
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to the people of

660
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?

661
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I would want to say for

662
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: that is, you know, look forward to all your goals,

663
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: achieve what you can, and leave a better legacy behind

664
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: than what you currently have.

665
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Thanks man. Hey, you know what, Jamie, I might just

666
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: go steal a candy bar from a liquor store just

667
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: so I can see you again one more time.

668
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Will sound good?

669
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: Lyle have a good one too.

670
00:37:51,360 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: Goodye, solid conversation with Jamie making me think about what

671
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: my retirement plan is. My retirement plan is. I'm gonna

672
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: see if anyone listening to this podcast wants to pay

673
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: me a million dollars for a used Gecko glove? Any

674
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: takers starting? All right? Five hundred thousand?

675
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: No?

676
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Four hunt, no, all right? Maybe I'll just get a

677
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: job at the DMV or something. Hello, what's up dog?

678
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: How you doing? How's life?

679
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh dude, oh man, life is better now that I'm

680
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 3: talking to you. Holy buckets?

681
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh what's your name? What's your name, Oh.

682
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: My name is Connor Connor Connor and before we but

683
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: I must say we've met once before.

684
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: When did we grabon?

685
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: You were at Bonnaroo and then after you're set there,

686
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: you went behind and someone was like, can I play

687
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: you a song? And you were dancing. I walked up

688
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 3: to you and I said can I get a picture?

689
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: And You're like yes, And we hugged and you were like,

690
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: what's your name? Man? And I was like, I'm Connor,

691
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: and that was that was the first time we met.

692
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: I said, what did I say? After that?

693
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: You were just like nice to meet you, man, And

694
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: I was smiling so big in the photo that someone

695
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: was like, it's Christmas for him.

696
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: And man, normally, if I'm normally, if I'm walking around

697
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: at a festival and I'm in my gecko costume and

698
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: somebody asked me for a photo, I'll look at them

699
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and I'll go like does it don't you see that

700
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm fucking busy, and I'll shove them into to the ground.

701
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're not one of the people that

702
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: I did that too.

703
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 3: Oh, me too, me too.

704
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: Connor Connor, you texted me, you said, you said the

705
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: biggest choice of my life is in the next two weeks.

706
00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: What's up with that?

707
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: So yes, yes, okay, so let me precurse this. So

708
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm in law school right and I'm in my third

709
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: year of law school. It's coming to an end, my

710
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: last year of college then getting thrown to the wolves

711
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: into the real life, right. And so last summer I interned,

712
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: and I'm going to law school in North Dakota. And

713
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: last summer I interned at a place in South Dakota.

714
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 3: And the place in South Dakota liked me so much

715
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: that they offered me a job. But I go to

716
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: school in North Dakota. All my friends are in North Dakota.

717
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: And when it comes to like law and stuff, wherever

718
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: you decide to work, like, that's where you're at because

719
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: you got to take an exam called the bar exam,

720
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: and it's state specific. So if I were to choose

721
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: South Dakota, I'd be like, oh, peace out all my

722
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 3: friends who I've made over the last three years and

723
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: all my connections kick rocks. But if I choose North Dakota,

724
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, peace out. This nice job offer that

725
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: I was offered, kick rocks. I don't want it. And

726
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: then I'd have to like do the whole application and

727
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: interview process and all that stuff in North Dakota when

728
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: it's kind of nice just you know, the offers already

729
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: out there, you know, well, saying.

730
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: Take cup, First of all, I need you to take

731
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: comfort in the fact that you're fucked either way, because

732
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: no matter what, you have to live in either North

733
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: or South Dakota. And that should be comforted to you.

734
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: That should make the decision less difficult. Yes, yes, I'm

735
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: what how old do you?

736
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: I am twenty four, but in a week and a

737
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: half I'll be twenty five.

738
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Okay, cool man? And where are you calling me from

739
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: North Dakota Grand.

740
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: Forks, North Dakota, shout out und baby woo.

741
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: All right, and you're in school right now?

742
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: Where where?

743
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now? School?

744
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: So I'm in my last year of law school. So

745
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: I already have an undergraduate degree, which is four years

746
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: of college, and now I'm on my third last year.

747
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: It'll be my seventh year of school of higher education

748
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: and then I'm done.

749
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: Cool, cool, cool cool.

750
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: So I kind of need to figure it out. And

751
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: the reason I only have two weeks is because the

752
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: job offer in South Dakota gave a deadline of August

753
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: thirty first to accept it.

754
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Do you have jobs? Do you have a job offer

755
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: in North Dakota?

756
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: I do not?

757
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, how are I don't know. I don't know this universe.

758
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: How rare our job offers?

759
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I don't know because I've

760
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: just been in college my whole life. I really don't

761
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: know how rare job offers are. I mean, it's my

762
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: first and only one. I guess right?

763
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: How much? Can I ask you? How much money the

764
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: South Dakota job offers for?

765
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 4: Oh?

766
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: You can? You can? So it's in South Dakota where

767
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: the cost of living it's pretty low, but it's seventy

768
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: g seventies.

769
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: You just can get you can get your You can

770
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: get you a hell of a seven to eleven run

771
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: in South Dakota.

772
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: Oh oh yes, it could get me to a live

773
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: Gecko show.

774
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: M well, it wants because I'm never stepping foot in

775
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: South Dakota. But I bet why can't you?

776
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: So?

777
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: All right?

778
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: So what a minute? So have you been on indeed

779
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: or LinkedIn or or any of those other have you?

780
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: Have you researed? Because it sounds like you want to

781
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: live in North Dakota because you have friends and connect

782
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: you have your life is in North Dakota, and you

783
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: do you like your life?

784
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? I like my life. It's a pretty good life.

785
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: All right. So is this so is this decision to

786
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: take a job in South Dakota Is it out of

787
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: a mind Is it out of a scarcity mindset that

788
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: you will not be able to find the job in

789
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: North Dakota. That's that's in the field of.

790
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: Law, almost scarcity. And also like like I almost like

791
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: my confidence in myself to get more job offers. Yeah,

792
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: it's not very good like interviews and stuff. I'm not

793
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: really an interview guy. I feel like I'm more of

794
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: a get to know me type guy, you know, rather

795
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: than like a thirty minute hour meeting. Oh that was

796
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: you know. So it's really the fear of going through

797
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 3: the whole process again.

798
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: Let's step back, Connor, what makes you happy? What's making

799
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you happy in life right now?

800
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: What makes me happy? What makes me happy? That is

801
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: a great question. You know. I do enjoy time with

802
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: my friends, I play video games, I like concerts, But

803
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: on a day to day thing, I really don't know

804
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: what makes me happy.

805
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: Okay, because there's there's I'm thinking about this in several ways.

806
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: There's this whole idea of leaving your comfort zone and

807
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: going to a new place evolves you as a human being,

808
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: which is something I believe in a lot. But you're

809
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: also going from North Dakota to South Dakota. So that's

810
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: not the most I don't know if you're gonna have

811
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: an eat prey love experience down in South Dakota in that,

812
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: but it could, but it could evolve you as a

813
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: human being in other ways because you're now challenged to

814
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: make new friends. You're challenged to put yourself out there, right.

815
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the dude and like South Dakota, like like

816
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 3: the dude from The Reverend that movie Leonardo DiCaprio acted

817
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: in like he's from South Dakota. That happened in so

818
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: like it's got cool things like that. And the Corn

819
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: Palace I think is down there.

820
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: Moving to South Dakota because it's where the revenue takes

821
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: place and that's where the corn Palace is. That's that's

822
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: a terrible reason to move.

823
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: There's also fair almost.

824
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: I honestly think a job. It's a terrible reason to

825
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: move South Dakota. Sorry for the there's somebody in South

826
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: Dakota who's listening to this that I'm upsetting.

827
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: No, no one of one of the twenty of them.

828
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: And also, okay, you mentioned too that you mentioned you

829
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: mentioned too that if you if you move down there,

830
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: that if you take the bar, that's like where you're

831
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: settled at, right, because you can't you.

832
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Have forever forever, yeah, for like a half decade.

833
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, And you don't want to move there, you.

834
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: Know, I'm fine with moving there. I'm fine that, like,

835
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: like moving's not the issue, you know what I mean,

836
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: it's just like the people. You know, I'm fine with

837
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,959
Speaker 3: moving there, but I'm not fine with leaving my friends too,

838
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: you know.

839
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, man? Well what's what? Well? What what the

840
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: have you have? You even let me ask it? Have

841
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: you even let's say, let's say you had two job

842
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: offers for the same amount of money and one was

843
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: in North Dakota, womans in South Dakota. You'd take the

844
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: North Dakota one, right, Oh?

845
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 3: I think I would?

846
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: Actually you think you would. What do you want? What

847
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: do you want out of life? Connor? Are you trying

848
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: to expand your social circle and life experience? Outside of

849
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: the the the Dakota's or are you really happy diving

850
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: deeply into the existing social circle and existing experiences that

851
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: you have. It's an important question.

852
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: No, I know it sounds kind of vanilla, but almost

853
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: the latter, because when I was younger of young, I'm

854
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: on twenty five, but I used to like want to

855
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: venture and like be like a private practice attorney and

856
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: get a boat or something. But now I just kind

857
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: of want to be like a humble like law professor

858
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: who like goes hiking summers.

859
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: Okay, go on, and I know, I I this is

860
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: a tough question. Go on, indeed, go on LinkedIn, Go

861
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 1: see what's go see if you can get a job

862
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: in North Dakota.

863
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So maybe so maybe just you know, let

864
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: that thirty first deadline slide a little bit.

865
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I would say, look, I'm not I can't tell

866
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: you what to do, because yeah, no, of course, of

867
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: course you can't tell you what. I can't tell you what.

868
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to do, but I can

869
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: tell you have some have some confidence in yourself that

870
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: you're good enough at what you do that you can

871
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: you can You'll be okay, Okay, okay.

872
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: You know that. You know, my mom tells me that

873
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: same thing all the time, but for some reason, coming

874
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: from there to get go, it just sounds it hits

875
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: way more home.

876
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

877
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

878
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, confidence in myself. Don't just settle on

879
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: the first job offer that was floated at me. Okay,

880
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: all right, That's what I'm taking from this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I just want you to know if you

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Speaker 1: fuck up your life because if anything I told you,

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Speaker 1: remember that your mom said. Remember remember remember that your

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Speaker 1: mom said it to you first, So blame her.

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Speaker 2: I met.

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Speaker 1: Okay, definitely connors anything.

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Speaker 3: In a box. I won't come for a vendetta against you. Lyle.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything you want to say to the people

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Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man, people of the computer, just keep keep keep

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Speaker 3: being you and you, if you're part of the Therapy

892
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 3: Gecko family, you're probably a pretty chill person. And thank

893
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: you guys for listening to me, and thank you Lyle

894
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Speaker 3: for taking my call. It's it's it's been an honor,

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Speaker 3: you know what.

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Speaker 1: Fuck it, man, it's been an honor talking to you too. Good.

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Speaker 1: Have fun in the dakotas man, go h go, for

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Speaker 1: a walk.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I will. And you I know you probably

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Speaker 3: have a PR team or something, but I'm gonna send

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Speaker 3: you that picture of me and you at Bonnail and

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Speaker 3: whether or not you actually see it or not.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, what do you mean? What do you mean

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Speaker 1: I have a PR like send it to my Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna send it to your Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I do not have I think people think I have,

907
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Speaker 1: like at a guy or something. It's me. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: all that shit.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully you see the picture and I and I

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Speaker 3: will and I'll enjoy the rest of your stream tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Connie, you have a good night.

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Speaker 3: Thank you as well.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Lyle here. I'm about to do some

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Speaker 4: Paul from Jules.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi Jules, How are you a hi?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: How are you not much? What's going on? How can

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00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: I get you today?

931
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: Oh? I mean, what is your preferred method of gecking?

932
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: Uh?

933
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Speaker 1: Well, i'll rephrase the question. Is there anything in particular

934
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: that you wanted to talk about today? It's okay?

935
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Speaker 4: If not, No, you know, the one thing that is

936
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: super on my mind is life after college and how

937
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: much of a mess it could be?

938
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Speaker 1: Are you in life after college?

939
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Speaker 4: I am graduating in twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Graduated in twenty two, okay, and what are your observations

941
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Speaker 1: thus far?

942
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Speaker 4: Well, it's a time I went to school for theater.

943
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: So it's not something where it's like, yes, I know,

944
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to have something like right out the door,

945
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So you graduated in twenty two, and what have

947
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Speaker 1: you been doing since then?

948
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Speaker 4: Well, I moved to a new city literally like a

949
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: year ago around this time I've been I moved here

950
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: because I was, you know, trying to make it as

951
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: an actor. But when I first sit here, I started

952
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 4: as an English tutor for elementary kids. Didn't like the

953
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: nine to five aspects of it. It didn't really give

954
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Speaker 4: me time to really do the theater as much as

955
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Speaker 4: I thought it would. And then I got a job

956
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Speaker 4: as at a bakery and not baking, just selling the stuff,

957
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: and I actually put in my two weeks for that

958
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: the other day, and today I had my first training

959
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 4: for a waitress job. So I've done a few shows

960
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 4: in between that. But other than that, I'm just trying

961
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Speaker 4: to make money, but I'm not doing good at saving it.

962
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Speaker 1: And you live you live in New York.

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Speaker 4: I actually live in Philadelphia. I'm from New Jersey, like

964
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Speaker 4: close to New York, but I live in Philly.

965
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Speaker 1: Now, did you go to school in Philly?

966
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Speaker 4: No, I went to school in South Jersey.

967
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Philly. Philly is a great city. Man. Are

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Speaker 1: you so? Are you? Are you still pursuing acting?

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Speaker 4: I am, yeah, okay?

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Speaker 1: How are you making stuff on the internet?

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Speaker 4: No, that's not my school? Really just live theater. I'm

972
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Speaker 4: trying to get involved in like student films and do

973
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Speaker 4: some like volunteer non paid stuff just to like get

974
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Speaker 4: in front of a camera or get on a stage

975
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Speaker 4: and make connections and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: And what what is like in that? I don't I

977
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: don't know much about the live theater universe. Is the

978
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Speaker 1: goal to like get get in some kind of like

979
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Speaker 1: touring show or something like that, Like what's the what

980
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: are the jobs in that?

981
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, there's a lot of ways that you

982
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 4: people can make it happen. I recently got I had

983
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Speaker 4: a conversation with someone who works for like the National

984
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: Theater Children to Theater for children and they do tours

985
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: and like the greater Philadelphia area. But it's not it.

986
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: He was the guy that I talked to was like,

987
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 4: you should submit another time because it seems to give

988
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: a lot going on. I actually like, don't have a

989
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: specific like goal. I just want to do it.

990
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Cool, Well that's all. That's uh, that's fun, that's good.

991
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: That's better than having a specific goal. I think just

992
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: wanting to do it. It's a better having a specific

993
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: goal because you're gonna have a because you'll be happy

994
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: or just wanting to do it than being like if

995
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Speaker 1: I don't do this, then I'll I'm going to have

996
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Speaker 1: to die. Right, Okay, are you like what what else

997
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: are you.

998
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: Are you.

999
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: Any other specific stuff about post grad life that you

1000
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: wanted to you wanted to touch on in your.

1001
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: Experience, you know what, I'm struggling a lot with, Like,

1002
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: since moving to Silly, my biggest issue has been like

1003
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: needing people and making friends and keeping my those relationships

1004
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: that I've made in college that I assumed would continue

1005
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: after college, you know what I mean, and they're just

1006
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 4: not do those people?

1007
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Where do those people live? Do they live outside of Philadelphia?

1008
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1009
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: Outside, but like my where I went to school is

1010
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: literally like twenty twenty five minutes away, so it's like

1011
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: not that far. And I've tried to reach out, tried

1012
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: to you know, keep up with it, but it's just

1013
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: not being reciprocated. And then I'm sitting here, like what

1014
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: did I do to not have this friendship? Keep going?

1015
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: Do you have friends in Philadelphia?

1016
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: No, I've had like a hard I don't know. I've

1017
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 4: had a hard time, I guess like branching out and

1018
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 4: meeting people. Like I live with two roommates, one of

1019
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: them I went to school with, and like, I'm pretty

1020
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 4: good friends with my roommates, so like that's a plus,

1021
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 4: but we all have different lifestyles and you know, like

1022
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: it's ours. Our paths don't always intertwine.

1023
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: Mm, I'm thinking about this. I'm having a hard time

1024
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: making friends too. I'm thinking about it.

1025
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: That's like, you know, I you know, I joined bumble

1026
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: DFF and I put in my big My sister suggested

1027
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: I do that, and I put in my bio. Like,

1028
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: I have a really hard time connecting with people over

1029
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: the phone or like through a screen, so it'd be

1030
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: great to like grab drinks or like get coffee or something.

1031
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: And nobody seems like interested in doing that. And so

1032
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: like I got a few messages that are like, I

1033
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 4: know it's hard, but like we can make it work.

1034
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: So like I'm trying to take the steps to meet people.

1035
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: Well you're well, you're in acting, and I feel as

1036
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: though there's a lot of different clubs, and I mean,

1037
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: why don't you join a fucking sketch comedy group or

1038
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: something like that? True in that in that whole vain. Yeah,

1039
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna give you a specific suggestion.

1040
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't usually do that. Usually meander, uh, go join go,

1041
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: do fucking go get involved in improv and sketch. In Philadelphia,

1042
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: go to Fit. You know what FIT is. I don't

1043
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: know if it's still around. No Fit p H I T.

1044
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: I do not know if it's still around. They might

1045
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: have closed with the pandemic. But if it is, go

1046
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: check it out to the Philadelphia Improv Theater Philadelphiladelphia was

1047
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: all this great sketch and improv going on, and it's

1048
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: really just people who go and fuck around on the

1049
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: stage for five minutes and then get drunk afterwards. So

1050
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: it's a good place to make friends that go look

1051
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: into that. That's what I That's how I made friends

1052
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: when I was in Philadelphia was through stand up And

1053
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: it was cool because you could because you could go

1054
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: there and there would be it felt like cheers. Man,

1055
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: you go to an open mic and even though you

1056
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: suck and stuff like, you know, you know everybody, it's fun.

1057
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: It's good. It's a good time. Yeah, there's all these

1058
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: scenes in Philadelphia and if whoever's listened to this in

1059
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: cities around the world, so go find a scene. Because

1060
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing of of trying to keep

1061
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: up all these individual friendships that are all over the place,

1062
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: it's fucking hard. So you know, try to get involved

1063
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: in a scene of some kind of you're in the

1064
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: absolute most perfect place and then a perfect city to

1065
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: go do that, so, you know, go on Facebook and

1066
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: search fucking improv group or just or sit at home

1067
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: alone and never talk to anybody again.

1068
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: That's yeah, you know, it's nothing wrong with an easy route, right,

1069
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: And that's like what I do now. But the most

1070
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: like what I've what I've been telling myself constantly is like,

1071
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: you know, you've got to just do it. And like,

1072
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. I was talking about my friends and

1073
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 4: he said, like, if you just show up, just show

1074
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: your face, see what happens. You don't have to say anything.

1075
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: You just have to be there, see what the vibe is,

1076
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

1077
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: Jade, Is there anything else you want to say to

1078
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?

1079
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: I want to say Yolo.

1080
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, people people look at the word. I think

1081
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: Yolo has this brand of being vapid, but it's really deep,

1082
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: you know what. You know what the phrase of you know,

1083
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: the phrase of memento mori means no remember death. I

1084
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: think that's what it means. I don't know, but it's like,

1085
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: why is momento moury? Why is that some cool Roman

1086
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: thing that book. People say, but Yolo is stupid. They

1087
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: mean the same thing, So I'm with.

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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 4: You, Yolo.

1089
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Jade.

1090
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah that's Jules, but thank you. Sorry forever, Okay, Jeel Cever,

1091
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 4: have a great night.

1092
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I don't have any friends either.

1093
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: Man.

1094
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: The repeat Kid goes on the line, thinking of phone

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Speaker 1: calls every night. The repeat Kid goes to on his eye.

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Speaker 1: He's teaching you a loud live your life, but he's

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Speaker 1: not really an expert.