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Speaker 2: Well, Jesus, I said, that's pressure, brother, man, what's hand him?

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Speaker 3: You got more Shawn be Small Lynch, Doug Hendrickson and

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Speaker 2: And you're listening to politics, you're knowing to.

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Speaker 3: Be you known to be, Doug.

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Speaker 4: Doug, here's a civil question I have for if you

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Speaker 4: were governor. Delaurius wants to know if you were governor

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Speaker 4: for a day. I want what's once? You got twenty

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Speaker 4: four hours, not just you know, nine to five, none

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Speaker 4: of that nonsense. You got one day, Doug, change the world.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, you're a governor and your legislatures

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Speaker 4: it's multiple branches of government, and the and the courts

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Speaker 4: have already already given you green light. So the three branches,

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Speaker 4: so you're you're the soul. Decide on whatever it is

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Speaker 5: Doug. Well, it's a two part question, Gavin. But one

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Speaker 5: I would go to every single mayor and I would

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Speaker 3: And from that I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: created quote unquote designated communities, meaning community partners that we

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Speaker 3: So see here's the difference. You're right, and I took

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Speaker 5: But however, I would tell them they if they don't

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Speaker 4: You're doing mandatory volunteering, which is which is kind of

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Speaker 2: You're outug.

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Speaker 4: The reason this is more resonant to me than you

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Speaker 4: And I've said this before on the pod Man. You've

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Speaker 3: But I did that back in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Doug, I love that.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, we picked up not just on

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: And Hey, Dolores, thank you for the question.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Gavin. We got some great news in the waiting room.

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Speaker 5: We have a Mississippi kid. Yeah, and I've been to

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Speaker 5: Mississippi many times. We got a Mississippi kid.

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Speaker 2: He's still trying to figure out how to spell.

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Speaker 3: My SSI S S I P P I.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's not it's it's I. Someone said, why.

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Speaker 5: You said we have a Mississippi kid that made it big,

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys from Mississippi.

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Speaker 5: I made it big and that might be him Lance

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Speaker 5: Bass along with his former partner Justin Timberlake from Mississippi.

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Speaker 3: They both made it big. Lance. How are you, my man?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: How are you guys?

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Speaker 2: Where are you your fancy place? Where the hell are you? Lance?

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Speaker 1: I'm here at home in Los Angeles. You can see

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Speaker 1: my Harry Potter candles up in the sky for Christmas. Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Don't let Lance flo. You sold seventy million albums. He's

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Speaker 4: Oh so you were just you just why with little Royalty?

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Speaker 4: Were with us today? Am I supposed to bow or something?

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's a that's you're already five questions

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, buddy.

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Speaker 5: the Dirty Bird, and so back in two thousand, when

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Speaker 5: So I go to the stadium and I'm walking kind

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Speaker 5: Britney Spears and Aerosmith were in like a holding area

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Speaker 5: that time the security guy said, like you know them.

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Speaker 5: I said, yes, I do, and the guy let me

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl in two thousand. It was a fantastic month

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Speaker 1: I think that is amazing. That's what I used to

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Speaker 1: do what you want to do one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Lance, you don't even know who you're

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Speaker 4: dealing with. That guy with that politic and shirt on

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Speaker 4: right now literally doesn't even need I'm surprised, Doug you

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Speaker 4: even needed a ticket. Bro, I've seen this guy open up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if there was an Ocean's fourteen or something,

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Speaker 4: the we went to the Super the impenetrable Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: After nine to eleven, they said no one could ever

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Speaker 5: Pretty much like we don't care where we made it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, you don't know what you don't know.

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Speaker 5: And when was reflection moment did one of you guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was always the one that kind

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, Gavin, it's almost on the like we

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Speaker 1: It's so necessary and you know, thank you for you know,

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: you paved yourself?

438
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 4: I mean because you made your point, I mean that

439
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 4: your career, what you've been able to to do with

440
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 4: that experience, and how you use that to actually empower

441
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 4: you and how you've not just survived, but you continue

442
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 4: to thrive. Did you have those mentors along the lines

443
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 4: or was this iteration for you you figure it.

444
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: Out along the way.

445
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of had to figure it out on

446
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: my own. I didn't really have many mentors, especially in business,

447
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: so it was a lot of trial and error. You know.

448
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 1: I put my hands on a lot of things after

449
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 1: in sync. You know, I had a lot of interests.

450
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm from restaurants to you know, music, television film,

451
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean just all over the place, and you know

452
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: a majority of them completely failures. But every time that

453
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: I would fail, I would learn more things. And so

454
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 1: I enjoy, you know, failing, because it does it just

455
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: makes you a better person, and then you start to

456
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 1: figure out exactly what you're meant to do. And I

457
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: feel like, finally, at forty five, I know exactly what

458
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: I want to do and what I'm supposed to do

459
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: right now.

460
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 4: By the way, right there's a great Winston Churchill quote

461
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 4: said the secret of all success Churchill, So you kind

462
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 4: of attention it. Secret of all success is moving from

463
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: failure to failure with enthusiasm. Yeah, and you know mistakes

464
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 4: are a portal discovery.

465
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of I dig that. But so all right,

466
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: so begs the damn question.

467
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 4: Man, you're an old man now and you just figured

468
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 4: out what you really want to be when you grow up.

469
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: So what is it?

470
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 2: What is it?

471
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know, my kids kind of changed that for me.

472
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, my my whole life has just been entertainment.

473
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: It's like, this is what I'm supposed to do. This

474
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: is what you know, everyone wants me to do. And

475
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: I do enjoy it. But I figured out. I like

476
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: other things even better. I'm a creative person, so I

477
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: don't have to be in front of the camera. I

478
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 1: love being able to write and produce behind the scenes.

479
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: But I also love real estate, like I really love,

480
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, real estate, which I'm really getting heavily into

481
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: right now. And with that, I like things that I

482
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: can control. I don't like being a part of anything

483
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: that people can tell you no. And that is entertainment.

484
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: You know, you get to know ninety nine percent of

485
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: the time people in this industry that get to decide.

486
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: And you work on a project for four years and

487
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you work so hard on it and spend so much money,

488
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: and then they're kind of like, yeah, man, not right now,

489
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: that won't work, and you're like, okay, I just wasted

490
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: all that time. I don't want to do that anymore.

491
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: I want to be the boss. I want to tell

492
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Speaker 1: myself yes and be you know, be my own boss.

493
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: And that's the path that I'm taking. And especially with

494
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: my kids, it's more in the family friendly atmosphere right now.

495
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm doing you know, children's books and children's

496
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: film and television, so you know, and that just makes

497
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: me just happier because I get to create what I

498
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: want to do. I get to release it when I

499
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Speaker 1: want to. And that's what I love about the social

500
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: media world too. No one can tell me no. If

501
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: I want to make, you know, a fun little skit,

502
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to put it up and it's up into

503
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: twenty four hours and there you go, and then millions

504
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: of people get to see it, more people than would

505
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: watch a TV show that I spent three years developing,

506
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: and then half a million people see it, like I can.

507
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: I can get those many people to see my one

508
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: little video in twenty four hours, and I feel just

509
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: as fulfilled.

510
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 4: On the flip side of it, was there one indelible

511
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 4: note that you think is shaped most. I mean, when

512
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: you look back, you still it's it's a burning inside

513
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: you that it sort of is driven most of your

514
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: you know, just sort of shift of consciousness. Was there

515
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 4: some truly devastating teed up, some rejection It just stings

516
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 4: even to this day.

517
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's been a lot of, you know,

518
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: great rejections. Great but you know, I won't specifically say

519
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: the show, but you know, I was up for a

520
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: really great hosting gig that would have really changed my

521
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 1: life and I was so excited for the opportunity and

522
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: I really thought that this could be, you know, my future,

523
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: and I ended up not getting it, and it really

524
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: it just it really derailed me for a while. I'm like, Okay,

525
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: if I didn't get that, like, now what is next?

526
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: I got a It's it's like starting over all over again.

527
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: And I was just so tired. I'm like, I don't

528
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: want to start over again and start paying my dues again.

529
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: And that's that was really when I started looking at

530
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: why am I even trying so hard in this entertainment

531
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: industry to please everyone? Let's just start doing things that

532
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: I want to do and that I feel creative with

533
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: and again that no one can say no to. I

534
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: gave it.

535
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 5: Well, let's ask question in the Heyday vistinct, when Justin

536
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 5: decided to pull the way, when you guys are there,

537
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 5: did you have any did you sit back? Were you

538
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 5: too young to realize like like thinking maybe he's going

539
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 5: to go do some solo stuff and then come back.

540
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 5: And then how was your mentals when he pulled away?

541
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 5: And then kind of instant kind of it like it

542
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: went away initially after the next couple of years, we're like, oh,

543
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 5: my god, like we just were killing it. We're on

544
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 5: the top of the world. Now it's gone, or what

545
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: was your mindset back then? Uh?

546
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: You know, I was confused for sure. I mean again,

547
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: I was such a young person and all I knew

548
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: was in Sync. That was my life. There was no

549
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: there was no lance bass. There was just lance of

550
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: and Sync, and so that was my world. And I

551
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: was happy that was my world. I thought that was

552
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna be my world the rest of my life. I

553
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: didn't think that there'd be anything different, you know, ignorantly.

554
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, so when you know, we decided that the

555
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: group was no longer, it was very confusing for me

556
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: because I didn't know where I belonged and I wasn't

557
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: really I wasn't really setting myself up for success because

558
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: I was just waiting, you know, because I was I

559
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: was told by the label and everyone's like, oh no,

560
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: we just need three more months. Oh we just need

561
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, five more months. I'm like, okay, you know,

562
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: and I was turning down sitcoms and like work that

563
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: I could have like really done to establish me as

564
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: a solo person. But I didn't, you know, I just

565
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: I was just waiting because I was waiting for my group.

566
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: So when it didn't happen, yeah, I was very disappointed.

567
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: I was disappointed more in myself because I stupidly just

568
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: kind of sat back and just thought, Oh, this is

569
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: just going to be waiting for me and let me

570
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: just go have fun. And well also I was in

571
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: the closet at the time, so I was kind of

572
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: finding myself. So it was a good timing to have

573
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: a little downtime. But by the time that I got

574
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: back up and you know, out and the group was over,

575
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: I was left with nothing and not knowing exactly where

576
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be. So yeah, it took a

577
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: while to figure out who I was and uh and

578
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: where I needed to go. But you know, it was

579
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: a big life lesson and again I learned at an

580
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: early age. So I'm glad I got to do that.

581
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 5: Well, Lance that that begs the question for our listeners

582
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 5: out there that by the way, I just went to

583
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 5: the sphere and I saw the Eagles, and I remember

584
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 5: when they had the press conference when hell.

585
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: Freezes over, We're coming back.

586
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: Everybody wants to know when is in Sick coming back

587
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 5: for this reunion because the.

588
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: First this question, no one has ever asked me, So

589
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: I just got to you can tell us the truth.

590
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 3: You can tell us the truth of what's the first date.

591
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: It's been great. The last two years have been great

592
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: for the group because we haven't done anything in two decades.

593
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: But you know, we got together to do the Trolls

594
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: movie together and then all of a sudden, Deadpool uses

595
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: Bye Bye Bye, and it's just something's in the air

596
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: right now with our group, and our fans have kind

597
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: of going a little nuts, and the younger generation, this

598
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: gen Z is now like figured out who we are,

599
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: although they think we're the Deadpool group, but I'm totally

600
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: and you know, so there's definitely something in the air

601
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: that we're trying to figure out. You know, Justin's on

602
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: tour for the next six months. He's been you know,

603
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: extending his tour, so obviously there's nothing we could do

604
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: until that's done. But we're definitely, you know, discussing what

605
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: the future could hold and what we could do. But

606
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, fingers crossed, you know, we give the fans

607
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: a little something, something I would enjoy that. I would

608
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: just like my kids to be able to see me

609
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: do something like you're in a band, sure, like I'm.

610
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Sure, Dad, Yeah, sure dad.

611
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 4: By the way, Doug, that sounds like they're going to

612
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: make a surprise appearance at the super Bowl.

613
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: That's what I just turned and then release an album

614
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: right after that. They've been quietly work.

615
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: You're only going to be able to sneak in.

616
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: Exactly, You're not invited, by the way. Just you know,

617
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: it's interesting.

618
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny sort of generations to rediscover and

619
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 4: it takes sort of.

620
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: A good tebor.

621
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: I love the Deadpool frame, right that all of a sudden,

622
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: now you kind of people that may not have they

623
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 4: may have heard your music, but never really identified all

624
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: the energy around that music. That's got to be I mean,

625
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: in so many ways to sort of see sort of

626
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: you know, these these points of your career that get

627
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: you just reintroduced and re energized.

628
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: Over and over and over again.

629
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: It is great, you know, and it's just nice to

630
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: see that, you know, some of our songs, you know,

631
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: stand the test of time. I mean, even those dance moves.

632
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: You know, kids come. I mean there's little kids now,

633
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, eight nine years old that come up to

634
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: me in public and they just they just love it.

635
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: They love the songs. They especially love the dance, of

636
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: course because it's now in minecraft. So you know, I've

637
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: actually I think we're cooler now than we were. Back

638
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: back then it was kind of embarrassing to like a

639
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: boy band. But now I don't know, this younger generation

640
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: just they accept it, they love it. So I'm very appreciative.

641
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 5: List let me ask you a question, and I applaud

642
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: you know, Gavin, I've been been brothers and family for

643
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: thirty years. And our unfortunate co host more Shawn is

644
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 5: not here right now. He's actually flying back from I

645
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: believe in movie is doing but an event Like I

646
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 5: applauded Gavin the other day on the show, and he

647
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: talked about a story about his dad when he when

648
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 5: he you know, he was the first mayor that implemented

649
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: gay marriage.

650
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: When was that, Gavin? Was that two thousand and.

651
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: Four we were kids, black and white movie days two

652
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: thousand and four, that we do the Winner of Love

653
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: Lance four thousand and thirty six couples from forty six states,

654
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: and you know, but it is, you know, it's interesting.

655
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: I know where Doug's going with this man. It's you know,

656
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: here you are talking about a boy band and sort

657
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: of iconic, and you guys are peeking and everything else,

658
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: and you're struggling with your own identity and then I

659
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: imagine struggling more over with how you expressed that. And

660
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: then how does that impact not just you, mom, dad,

661
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: your family relationships, but how does that impact your reputation,

662
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: your career, as impact your your colleagues. And I mean

663
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: all that going through your head. But you eventually did

664
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: it in a pretty profound and consequential way. You know,

665
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: you did it. You went big and bold. But what

666
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean was that a multi year process of just

667
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: trying to figure that out, man, or just it was

668
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: a moment you said I've had it.

669
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was Look, it was definitely a whole

670
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: life process of you know, trying to figure out who

671
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: I was. I mean, I knew I was gay since

672
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: I was, you know, five years old, So like I knew,

673
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: I knew that, you know, that was a part of me,

674
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: but also knew at a young age that was something

675
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I was going to have to hide my whole entire

676
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: life because I thought that it was you know, it

677
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: was dangerous, especially growing up in a state like Mississippi

678
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: where there's not one gay person, not one out person

679
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: at all, because it again was dangerous. You just always

680
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: heard of people being murdered because of that, and you know,

681
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: growing up in the churches, you know it was caused

682
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: by the devil, You're going to hell. As a very

683
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: religious person growing up, you know, I wanted to do

684
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: everything I could not to go burn in hell, and

685
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: so that I repressed and I was so scared of

686
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: and I would cry all like every night to pray.

687
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: You know, I would pray, please wake up not being gay,

688
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: please wake up being attractive girls, which is like I said,

689
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: put on a little kid, and so yeah, you know,

690
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: and then being God's little joke of putting me in

691
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: a boy band where ninety nine percent of your fans

692
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: are females. You're like, you're living this life and like, okay,

693
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun. And it's right when you're

694
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, coming of age and you're first dating for

695
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: the first time and then your best friends in the

696
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: group are having girlfriends. I'm like, oh lord, I'm gonna

697
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: have to deal with this. I'm really gonna have to

698
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: deal with this. And I'm in like the most public

699
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: person in the world right now, Like, how am I

700
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: supposed to deal with this, and you know, you would

701
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: date girls, and you'd have girlfriends, and you would trick

702
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: yourself into thinking this is what love is, right, this

703
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: is this is what feels like. And I thought I

704
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: loved these girls that I you know, dated, and then

705
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: you just wake up one day You're like, no, uh uh,

706
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: this is this, this is not it. And it was

707
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: at a time, you know, that was two thousand and six,

708
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: so it was getting a little easier to be more

709
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: vocal about who you are. We were fighting for marriage equality,

710
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: so you had a lot of people. You just saw

711
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: people fighting for you, and you're like, okay, I don't

712
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: feel as a loan. And then you started seeing people

713
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: come out that you knew, you know, and in the business,

714
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: there weren't many people, you know, even Ellen hadn't even

715
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: come out at that point. So, you know, the decision

716
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: to come out on the cover of People magazine was

717
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: it was a scary one. I didn't I didn't really

718
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: have a choice. That was kind of a band aid

719
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: being ripped off because I was outed by the press.

720
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: So they gave me basically twenty four hours. Look, wow,

721
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: we know the story, we know you're gay. We're gonna

722
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: write it. But would you like to do it with

723
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: us so we get the story right, or just let

724
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: us make it up?

725
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but that wasn't People Magazine themselves.

726
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: That was not people never did there exactly. I just

727
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: I trusted that they would be better at telling the story.

728
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: And so yeah, So I had twenty four hours to

729
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: tell my story and then it was on the stands,

730
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, the next day, and it was. It was

731
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: a crazy scary situation because all the examples I've ever

732
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 1: had of anyone coming out, especially in entertainment, was that

733
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: it's a career killer. Your dead, everything, your your career

734
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: is over. People are going to hate you, your church

735
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: has now kicked you out, your family hates you. Just

736
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: every negative thing you could think about is going to happen.

737
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: And it went opposite. It was the first time I

738
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: ever saw and I remember I went to Catalina Island

739
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I'm going to disappear.

740
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't even want to see what's happening. I don't

741
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: want to see the sound bites on the shows. I

742
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: don't want to see Jay Leno, I don't want to

743
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: see any of them people making fun of me because

744
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: one I was embarrassed for the gay community. I didn't

745
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: want them to be like, oh God, like now we're embarrassed,

746
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: Like now they're gonna be making fun of this guy,

747
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: and we've come so far and now go back further,

748
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: just because now they have someone as a punching bag

749
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: and so but it didn't happen that way. You know.

750
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Once I came up for air and I saw how

751
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: people were taking it, it was such a positive take

752
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: on everything. And the main thing I took away was

753
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: everyone like who cares? Like why do people care? Now?

754
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. This is wow,

755
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: so incredible. You know, the career definitely changed, and they

756
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: were right about that, like it was definitely a career killer.

757
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: But you know, not too long after that, I just

758
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: saw a lot of success stories in entertainment and I

759
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: love that. I mean, I love being able to turn

760
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: on the radio and hear so many LGBTQIA artists, incredible actors.

761
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it is it's actually a good thing to

762
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: be yourself these days. I think if you're kind of

763
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: hiding yourself and you're closeted, that it's harder to have

764
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: a career in this business.

765
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: Lance, you said it was a career kill. I mean you,

766
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: I mean, what happened if people, I mean they weren't

767
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 4: returning calls or just saying, oh that's true, straight people.

768
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: I mean what I mean, you got hit between the

769
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: eyes on that. Huh.

770
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was you know, I would definitely have

771
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: pivoted into television at that point, and I was going

772
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: into talk show, but I was also doing acting. You know,

773
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: I had a sitcom you know, with the CW at

774
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: the time, and we were about to shoot the pilot

775
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: and this came out and they were like, we can't

776
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: do the show anymore, like they believe that you're straight

777
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: to play a straight character. And I'm like okay. So

778
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: like in every casting director, I knew, they're like, Lance,

779
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: we can't past you because they can't look past You're

780
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: you're too famous for being gay now that they can't

781
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: look at you as anything other than that. So I

782
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: lost everything, you know, agents, everything just everyone just kind

783
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: of like kind of fell off, like I don't know

784
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: what we can do with you now, and so yeah,

785
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: I had to completely just restart and rebrand at that moment.

786
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 5: Did you rekindle any relationships you have with the people

787
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: like you said, agents left you and this and that

788
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: did you did you rekindle any of that or like

789
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: have any conversations since then?

790
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: The guys like, dude, I'm sorry, fucked up? Like I

791
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: mean any of that or was it?

792
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: How was that a lot of the cashing directors, for sure,

793
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: they're all kind of like, yeah, that was really dumb,

794
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: and you know, and they've actually cast me a lot

795
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: of things since, which is really funny and ironic. But

796
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, I never hold grudges at all, Like I'm

797
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: very understanding, Like I get it. Business is business is business.

798
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: It sucks, but I never can hold grudges. So even

799
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: if you piss me off and do something horrible to me,

800
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna like be friends again. That's kind of

801
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: like a downfall of mine.

802
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: So Lann says, as I have three kids, Gavin has

803
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: four and you said you knew it five.

804
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: So take me through your like it.

805
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 5: Had to be and seeing my kids struggle with anything

806
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 5: just whatever it may be. But like, how did you

807
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: get through those years where you're like, you know what,

808
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: this is what I am whatever, and with no one

809
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: knowing and living in a state like Mississippi said, where

810
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 5: people get killed for this stuff. How did you function

811
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: and get through? Did you just keep yourself busy and

812
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 5: keep active and whatnot? Or how did you make it

813
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: through those ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen your years?

814
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you just you basically ignore it. Yeah,

815
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: and you keep yourself like very busy. You turn into

816
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: like a character. You know, you're always trying to you know,

817
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: you hear little things, you know, like there's I remember

818
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: hearing when I was a kid, Oh if someone says

819
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: so a lot when they're you know, talking, is like,

820
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: oh it's so sunny outside that that's gay. So I

821
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: would catch myself using the words. So I'm like, oh,

822
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: so you would change how you spoke at a young age,

823
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: or you would kind of think about like I can't

824
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I can't be seen, you know, even like drinking a glass.

825
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: You know, if your finger goes up up, you're gay.

826
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: If you if your eyeballs go up and not into

827
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: the cup, you're gay, like those like and even in school,

828
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: we would do the gay test, Like there was all

829
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: these little tests you would do and it was just

830
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: so it was so scary. I'm like, I'm they're gonna

831
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: figure me out, which is so ridiculous. But yeah, I

832
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: mean you just, yeah, you just kind of kind of

833
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: put it out of mind, although it was almost impossible

834
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: when those things would come up, like the gay test,

835
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, you just like really hyper focused on like

836
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: keeping yourself busy, you know, Like I was always like

837
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: trying to entertain I was always the comedian, uh, you know, always,

838
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's a lot of the case

839
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: with entertainers. You always go to comedy when you're closeted,

840
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: and I definitely went the you know, the comedy route

841
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: with all my friends.

842
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Lance, how do you feel today?

843
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: I mean, with all the progress and I appreciate sort

844
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: of that that promoted progress in the two thousands, and

845
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: obviously with the big Supreme Court decision and and feeling

846
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: like we're on the other side of a lot of

847
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 4: that bigotry and a lot of that misunderstanding and hate.

848
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: Uh do you are.

849
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: You feeling like the last few years there's sort of

850
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 4: that that that pendulum sort of swung back, particularly against

851
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: the trans community, but even more broadly with all of

852
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: these book bands that are going on that don't quote

853
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 4: quote unquote say gay Bill in Florida, h and everything

854
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 4: with criminalizing speech in the boardroom, not just in the classroom,

855
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: threatening firing teachers and librarians if they check out the

856
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: wrong book that often has lgbtqth themes.

857
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, what's what's your sense of where the hell

858
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: we are right now?

859
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: You're right, the pendulum swings, you know, and it went

860
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: this way and it's gone like so we always know

861
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: we're going to deal with that. But yes, I feel

862
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: like we are going a little backwards right now. You know,

863
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: we're definitely entering an era where people are in bolden

864
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: to hate, and you know, the lsbt QUI community has

865
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: always been the scapegoat. It's just the easy one because

866
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: people don't you know, if you don't know a gay person,

867
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: if you're not gay, you just don't. You don't under

868
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: you don't get it. So it's easy to hate someone

869
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: like that, especially when you have, you know, a book

870
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: like the Bible that they pretend says that you're supposed

871
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: to not like, you know, gay people, which it doesn't say.

872
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: I've read it many times, so you know, and it's

873
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: just you know, ignorance. Ignorance you know, prevails in this

874
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: country unfortunately, and you know, even things like trying to

875
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: take IVF away. That isn't they're only trying to take

876
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: IVF away just because of the gay community, not because

877
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: straight people are actually using this and use it way

878
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: more than the gay community. But they're trying to give

879
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: it to us, you know, they're trying to give voters

880
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: a reason to vote a certain way, and they always

881
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: use our community for it, you know, and they always like,

882
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, one pedophiles, don't make me a pedophile just

883
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: because I'm gay, Immediately I'm a pedophile. I'm like, how, okay,

884
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: how does that relate? Well, don't you why don't you

885
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: go to the churches and see what the pedophiles exist? So,

886
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, but it's something that we're used to. We're

887
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: always going to have to fight, but I think, you know,

888
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: the next few years is going to be, you know,

889
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: a struggle, but we've been here before. The good thing

890
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: is things don't change overnight. It just doesn't. And that's

891
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: what gives me a little peace. I you know, I'm

892
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: old enough to be like it's pretty much everything is

893
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: just bullshit, Like everything is so bs and everyone's just

894
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: like doing this to make their agenda happen. But like

895
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: nothing really changes overnight, so that you know, that makes

896
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: me be able to sleep at night, that we can,

897
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, keep I'm aware of what's going on, but

898
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hyper focus on the craziness that

899
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: has happened. I'm going to live my life. I'm going

900
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: to enjoy my family. I'm going to do the right

901
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: thing and support the right people. But I'm not gonna

902
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: wake up every morning and just worry about the you know,

903
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: doom and gloom of the world, because you know, ultimately

904
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: we're going to survive and we're going to be good,

905
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: and things are better and things are only gonna get better,

906
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: and I and I and I find peace in that.

907
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: Well.

908
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: By the way, Lance, I appreciate you saying that because

909
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: that's so true and and everybody lives that way. Like

910
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 5: me and Gavianell's talk about were in a better spot,

911
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: And it seems Lance, you're in the height of where

912
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 5: you were back in the day. But right now you

913
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 5: seem like you're an incredible spot with your mentals. You've

914
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: got a great husband, you've got great kids, you got

915
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 5: great things going on. Do we have more kids coming

916
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 5: for you guys soon? Do we have a bigger family

917
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 5: than the two? What do we got going.

918
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Who do you ask? Yeah, it's uh, yeah, I would

919
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 1: love a couple more like I just I've always dreamt

920
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: of a big family. My husband's kind of like, I

921
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: think we're good. We're good. But he did say he goes,

922
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: if if in a perfect world there is an Instinct

923
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: tour coming, then we can have another kid.

924
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: So jeezus, I said, that's pressure. Brother.

925
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm trying to make this happen. So I'm like, okay,

926
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: Like I would love an Instinct tour, but it means

927
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: I get to have another kid, so I want it

928
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: more than the fans.

929
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll never forget. I have three, and I never forget.

930
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: I'm taking a nap and my wife comes down and

931
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 5: and she and I look at her, and I'm like,

932
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: I go pregnant, and I never forget it. And then

933
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 5: and then Gavin wanted to one up me and have four. Uh,

934
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 5: and I thought he was nuts, but I was set

935
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: up the.

936
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: Best thing that ever happened to me. Of course.

937
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: It's you know, little Dutch is like the you can't

938
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 4: make the stuff up, right, I mean, nothing's by accident.

939
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: It was what a gift?

940
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: So you gotta last, man, I'm telling you. But it

941
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 4: two is you don't even know you're not even a

942
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: parent of too, lance, You're not right. You gotta have

943
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: at least three or four. You don't even know what

944
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: it's like. Yeah, your parents still come home, they want

945
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 4: to take care of the kids. You get to three, four,

946
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: they're like, sorry, honey, mom and dad were unavailable.

947
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: Can't get babysitters.

948
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: You got to change the car. You can't get reservations

949
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: because all of a sudden it's a five top six

950
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 4: your whole life. Brother, you got to prepare.

951
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: That's what I always said too. I mean, I like

952
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: even right, so if I have one, that would you

953
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: know when you go to Disney, you gotta be in pairs,

954
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: so i'd have to have two more in order to

955
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: like everything be equal. So yeah, so.

956
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but two plus two is sixteen. Trust me, I

957
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: got four. So it's uh. I'm just saying this, This

958
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: tour better be a lucrative one for you, buddy.

959
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: I've always loved the idea. You know, we do have,

960
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, some embryos left, so like, of course we

961
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: if we had, I would use those. But I always

962
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: love the idea of adopting. I think you know, adoption

963
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: has been something that I've always dreamt of doing. There's

964
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: so many kids out there that need loving homes. And

965
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: maybe in the future, when my kids are older, i'd

966
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, adopt you know, a ten

967
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: year older, you know, someone like a little older that's

968
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: a little you know, harder, and that will be at

969
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: least they're out of diapers, right, That's that's the problem. Diapers.

970
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: We're almost out of diapers and I can't even imagine

971
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: going back through that again. But that's the only thing

972
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: deter me from having one.

973
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 4: Right now, Doug doesn't remember the diaper days. He's worried

974
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: about his tomorrow's different kind of diapers.

975
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 5: I remember the diper your age, brother, I'm not, by

976
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: the way, GAVI list for the record, you're a year

977
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: older and me partner.

978
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm looking at her.

979
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 5: Hey, But Lance Samel's questions as a parent now, uh?

980
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 5: In what you've gone on through?

981
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: Uh?

982
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: In terms of your career? Do you want them in

983
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 5: to show business? Do you want them into entertainment or

984
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: what's your thoughts?

985
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean in a perfect world no, I mean in

986
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: front of the camera, I would say no. I mean

987
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: beer writer produced great, Yeah, But I think especially this,

988
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: you know, being being a public figure back in my

989
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: day compared to now, it's just so much more pressure.

990
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: It's just it can be very vile because everyone has

991
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: a microphone, you know, to give their own opinion, and

992
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: not only do people give opinions, but bots give opinions

993
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: and troll farms, which creates a culture of you know,

994
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, the pitchfork mentality of like yeah that's right, bandwagon.

995
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: It's just scary, you know. I mean I've had I

996
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: mean I've had to change all my social stuff to

997
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: only people that follow me are able to comment because

998
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: just the vile things that I just can't not see.

999
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: And even about my kids, you know, that's where it

1000
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: really hurts. You're like, how could you say that about

1001
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: a three year role just because you hate Amen and

1002
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm gay, or just who I voted for, Like just

1003
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: that shit crazy. So I would not want that. I

1004
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: would not wish that upon my kids to have to

1005
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: deal with that, because even if you have a thick, thick,

1006
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: thick skin, it's still gonna penetrate. It's still you're still

1007
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: gonna hear some of those things. So you know, I

1008
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: keep trying to you're not supposed to push your kids

1009
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: in certain areas. But I'm like, wouldn't you like to

1010
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: be a vet like an animal doctor? Sounds great? Her

1011
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: like twin vets. You can have your own little wind vets.

1012
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: How great would that be?

1013
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: But of course my immediate thing is I got a

1014
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: TV show for that. Let's do twin Vets. I gotta go.

1015
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: But then my daughter, you know, she's been seeing me

1016
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: on TV lately, and now you know she gets it.

1017
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, you know you're on TV. You have

1018
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: your friends, You're you're instinct friends. But she told me

1019
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: the other day, She's like, I want to be on TV.

1020
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, brother, make no chance.

1021
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: Land somebody pivot to your your space stuff. Right now.

1022
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm curious because Gavin is the astronaut.

1023
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: You said everything but not astronaut.

1024
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting my question Gavin.

1025
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: But you know Gavin is as the governor, as the

1026
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 5: fifth largest economon of the world.

1027
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: I was Tea's Gavin.

1028
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: Why has there not been another guy in the moonlands

1029
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 5: is nineteen sixty eight?

1030
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 2: Well, God doesn't believe it ever happened. He's one of

1031
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: those guys. They did it. It does make some studio.

1032
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: In La Trust me, when I when I went to

1033
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 1: Russian and I trained, I asked all the questions because

1034
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: every single person I trained with over there, they're the

1035
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: ones who put you know, Yuriga Garan in space. It's

1036
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: the same exact people. So they had been there, they've

1037
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: seen it, they've done it. So of course I asked

1038
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: every question I could, and I am very confident we've

1039
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: definitely got there. And my you know, uh, you know,

1040
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: we haven't been to the Moon in many, many, many

1041
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: years because there's no reason to go to the Moon,

1042
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: but I do feel that recently we are going to

1043
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: you know, at least build a base there. You know,

1044
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: the ISS is very finite, it's going to be coming

1045
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: down soon. Uh so we do need a place to

1046
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: go and uh, you know, have a base, do our experiments.

1047
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand why we even go

1048
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: up there, but I mean the things that we have created,

1049
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: and you know, inspired by being able to go there

1050
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: is just help this planet. And of course this planet

1051
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: is finite, so we have to start figuring out, okay,

1052
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: how do we live off of this Earth? And it's

1053
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: going to take us many many, you know, hundreds of

1054
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: years to figure this out, but you know, we have

1055
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: to start now, and I'll always support the space program.

1056
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm still heavily you know, involved with it, and I'm

1057
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: happy to see that it has gotten you know, privatized,

1058
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: because I think you know, as you know Gavin, when

1059
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: the government gets involved, it's almost impossible to get things

1060
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: done very quickly. So I'm glad that we are, you know,

1061
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: going light years faster than we were before. And if

1062
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: my kids want to become astronauts, I would definitely be

1063
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: a yes for that.

1064
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: And are you a yes? Are you going to do

1065
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: Blue Origin, You're going to do Virgin Galactic? You're going

1066
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: to do one of those?

1067
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: I I would. I think it would be fun. It's

1068
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: like a roller coaster for sure. You know. I my

1069
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: my goal to you know, I was going up there,

1070
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: living on the ISS for ten days. I had my

1071
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I was doing environmental studies, I was doing blood work studies.

1072
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: So I wasn't going up there just for fun. I

1073
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: was going up there to inspire a younger generation to

1074
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: go into math and science and you know, and look

1075
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: up instead of down on your phone. And I'm glad

1076
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: that you know, people are excited, you know, about it.

1077
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: But if I go, I want to go on a

1078
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: real mission. You know, I really want to. You know,

1079
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm certified, I'm ready to go. I still have my

1080
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: my my flight suit still fits me. Let's do this.

1081
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: But you know, if they wanted me to just jump

1082
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: on a rocket and go to space and take great pictures,

1083
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: I'd do that too. But I'm not going to pay

1084
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: for it. You know, I would never pay. I went

1085
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: through so much. There's no way I would pay a

1086
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: dime to go to space. Yeah, so if anyone wants

1087
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: to throw me on there, sure I'll take a free ticket.

1088
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: Hey, Doug, years ago, I did one of those that

1089
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: that what is it?

1090
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: Was it zero gravity or something? The parabolic next level unbelieved?

1091
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: That was unbelieved. You've obviously part of training, right, You

1092
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 4: do that a lot.

1093
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean we train on that a lot, you know,

1094
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: and it's it's such an incredible feeling just that alone.

1095
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh. But yeah, I mean I

1096
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: remember my first parabolic flight because you know, Russia likes

1097
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: to really test you and see if you freak out

1098
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: in moments. And I remember Mark Shuttleworth, the first African

1099
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: in space. He was the one right before me, and

1100
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: he was giving me the load o. He was like, look,

1101
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna wake you up at three in the morning,

1102
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: yelling fire in Russian and like just seeing how you

1103
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: freak out. So the whole time I'm thinking, okay, they're

1104
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: testing me, they're testing me. So of course my first

1105
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: parabolic flight, the plane starts going down and like we

1106
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: have to put our parachutes on, which is static. I've

1107
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: never jumped out of a plane before. The plane, you know,

1108
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: goes up like this. They're pushing tourists out because you know,

1109
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: Russia doesn't have enough money, so they have to have

1110
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: tourists on their flights. They're pushing these tourists out, and

1111
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: I realized this is real, and I get right to

1112
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: the edge and like okay, we got it. We're good.

1113
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: And then we continue the lesson and I'm like, oh man,

1114
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: I think that was just a total just to see

1115
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: if I freaked out, and they didn't here that. They

1116
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: just threw tourists out over Siberia.

1117
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: They had parachutes on obviously.

1118
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the static line, yeah Jesus, yeah.

1119
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that that hain't gonna work for me. Nothing

1120
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: about nothing about that works for me.

1121
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 5: Well, Lance Gavin would gow up. I'm afraid of heights

1122
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 5: man like I can't. We climbed the Bay Bridge one

1123
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: time and almost almost out of panic attack, in an

1124
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 5: anxiety attack.

1125
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: But Gavin would definitely go up.

1126
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: But that's way scarier than going up to space or

1127
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: even doing skydiving. Like you you're so far up that

1128
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: there is no height, you know, you don't feel that,

1129
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, scared, Doug.

1130
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: These parabolic flights are next level. We my wife because

1131
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: she was the smallest one of the group. We got

1132
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: her in a little ball and we would throw her

1133
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: from one side of the airplane to the.

1134
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: Other and just you know, drinking the water and the

1135
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: M and m's up in the air.

1136
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 4: Doing push ups where you just do one push up

1137
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: and you you're, you're, you're, you're sort of flung to

1138
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 4: the ceiling.

1139
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1140
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: It was an experience of a lifetime. But yeah, it's

1141
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 4: going to space.

1142
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: But it's interesting.

1143
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 4: I appreciate, you know, it proves here like the real

1144
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: deal that you're not into sort of that terzy space thing.

1145
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: You're not And I fad.

1146
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: People are doing it. It pays for what we're trying

1147
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: to do with the real experiments. But and it would

1148
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: be so fun just to be able to see Earth

1149
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: from that view. My friend ed Lou, who was going

1150
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: to be on the station with me. You know, a

1151
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: lot my experiments got to the ISS a week before

1152
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: I did, and my clothes were up there. So he

1153
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: found my flight suit on the ISS and he ripped

1154
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: the name tag off and floated it in front of

1155
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: Earth and took it down, which he's not supposed to do,

1156
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: but snuck down the patch. So I still have it

1157
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: framed to my office And it's just just that alone,

1158
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: seeing my name floating in front of Earth is just

1159
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: like I feel like I was there, you know. It's

1160
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: just so beautiful.

1161
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: That's very cool, last legs.

1162
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 5: You've lived a blessed life, man, you really have, man,

1163
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 5: And look, I really admire where you came from and

1164
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 5: where you've been, and you've lived an incredible journey and

1165
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 5: you've got a long way to go, man, But it's

1166
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 5: very cool to see what you've done and success you've had,

1167
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 5: and you've got so many things you're.

1168
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: Cooking on and whatnot. And this lemmer for you.

1169
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: Bro.

1170
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: I've always been a huge fan of yours.

1171
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: Loved what you're all about, Love the story you told

1172
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: us day, the honesty about everything, you've done, and it's

1173
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 5: really cool to see, uh your journey and where you

1174
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: go man and I And by the way, when you're

1175
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: on s when you're on tour, within sink, I'm going

1176
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: to send you on these politic and hoodies you're gonna

1177
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 5: wear on stage and we're gonna get that thing going.

1178
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: As long as you can sneak in and find me

1179
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: Jesus too easy, I will sneak in now. But serious,

1180
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean y'all, I mean y'all obviously are great inspirations

1181
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I really look up to you

1182
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: guys too, so you know, thank you for all you've

1183
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: done just to inspire people like me.

1184
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: Appreciate Lance, Thank you, brother, Thanks for being with us,

1185
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: Thanks for everything you're doing, and thanks for being out

1186
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: there on so many damn causes.

1187
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: Brother, It's always always great to see on the road.

1188
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: Give the dinner for my love.

1189
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1190
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bace.

1191
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Lance, all right, Dodge letter.

1192
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Doug, tell us where people can email us. Folks

1193
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: that are listening and want to ask us any questions.

1194
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: How do they email us?

1195
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 5: Well, by the way, Kevin, we've had some incredible questions.

1196
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 5: We've had too many to even read. But if you

1197
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 5: do want to send us questions, it's politicken at iHeartRadio

1198
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 5: dot com. That's politicken at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 3: Keep them coming.