WEBVTT - Melrose Min with Denise 5-22-25 v1 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.320 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.400 And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.920 For the audience, Welcome to Still the Place. We're so 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.680 excited we can't stop talking long enough to introduce the show. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:26.440 We have Denise Bay costume answer a lot of questions 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.760 like why did you let me wear so many shoulder pads? 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.080 A lot of very important questions. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.720 Did you hear her? She's constant, it's so voluminous. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:38.880 I know because I wouldn't because I just kept thinking 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.320 the same thing. I'm like, why are the shoulder pads 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:44.280 so big? 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.040 You need to be that big? 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.479 Well, maybe you put on a pair, And then when 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:53.000 she went to her trailer she added them. She loved her, I. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.840 Honestly think psychologically because with the heather, with the really 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.680 short sirs, I think we were trying to make Allison 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.280 look powerful and professional, and I think she wanted to 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.960 hold her own. So that's the only thing I can 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.199 think besides the fact that. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.880 Linebacker, yeah, maybe she's a linebacker, you won't be as threatened. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.840 Also that it was the sign of the times. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.479 It was the sign of the times. It was the style. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.679 Things were oversized, things were a little bigger because it 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.680 was like early nineties, so we were still suffering from 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.000 the shoulder pads of the eighties. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:23.720 Yeah. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.920 Well, you you told us that you just watched the 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.760 first season, as we have too because we've been doing 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.000 this for our recaps. But you said that you prepared 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.080 to come here by watching the first season. You must 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.920 have had like a like crazy. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.959 I was expecting to hate more outfits than I did, right, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.000 but I saw some things and I was like, I 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.120 don't remember that at all, but it's cute. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.200 Who did that? 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.080 Oh? I did? 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.160 And you also came in mid season right like you 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.680 at fifteen you weren't. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.480 Yeah. No, I started prepping on episode thirteen because Amy 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.560 Locane still was still on, and then my first official 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.440 episode I did on my own was fourteen, and I 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.560 think that's when you came on right at the same time, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.280 right fifteen. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.760 Yeah, because I remember Denise that I always bonded because 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.160 we came the first time, and we almost got fired 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.120 that first because you had me in an Upper East 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:25.560 Side like beautiful floral satin or made looking blouse because 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.680 we were like Joe, she's from New York City, she 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.680 comes from money. Makes sense to me. And then I 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.880 think Aaron saw it was like, what do they have 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.280 her in? We're going black? Where's the black, where's the 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.440 where's the leather, where's the Yeah, so we switched it, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.000 but they reshot all that because we filmed that. I 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.959 don't know who I had scenes with. Maybe it was 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:44.080 just the intro I. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.160 Have blocked that out. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:48.840 One. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.680 So I think because we were coming into a not 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.480 I don't know if it was a well oiled machine, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.679 but because everybody knew each other and we were the newbies, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.560 we bonded very quickly about our place. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.160 Was It takes a little bit to get your grounding, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.000 you know, to get your like, oh, you're feeling everyone 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.120 out and feeling the wardrobout and then we're both like, 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:08.760 is this okay? 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:09.919 I don't know, let's try it. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.600 And also to try to figure out the characters and 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.760 the characters I think they wanted to change it up, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.720 which is why they, you know, brought us in, and 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.520 so it was kind of interesting to feel like what worked, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.160 what didn't work, and who the characters were, and the 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.040 characters changed over time too, you know obviously, Yeah, but I. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.360 Feel like watching it, don't you guys feel like when 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.800 you started things start to change your ward there, all 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.200 of our wardrobe got interesting. There was a I don't know, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.000 a punch up about it for sure, more I don't know, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:42.600 unique or something. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:43.040 Yeah. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.880 I was surprised at how much red I used because 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.160 I never use red now I really hate using red. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.560 And I was like, wow, I'm using. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.880 A lot of It must have been the color of 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:52.400 the moment. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.240 Maybe it was a lot. It felt very bright to me. 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.360 The whole world felt very bright. But again like it 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.960 was the time time, and some of the stuff has 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.880 come back around, maybe not the shoulder. It doesn't look 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.600 so crazy. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.040 It doesn't look so crazy as it would have like 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.880 if we've done it five years ago, because so many 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:11.080 of the styles are back in. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.720 I agree. I think had I seen this, I haven't 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.919 seen the show in over thirty years, so had I 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.800 looked at it fifteen years ago, I would have been 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.400 aw But now it's like, okay, yeah, I believe that 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.679 I buy it. That looks cute. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.560 It wasn't that interesting, Yeah, yeah. 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.840 It was so many people to manage, Like you think 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.920 about you know, costume fittings are so intense for all 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.840 of us because it's vulnerable. It's your body. You're there 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.640 and you're broad and underwear and you're working through it. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.839 How was it to sort of deal with that many 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.120 characters because you had eight main characters or nine with 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.880 Heather and then guest stars. How did that feel every 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.560 week when you would have to break down that script. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.680 Well, I think if you look back, and this might 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:54.240 be hard for people who aren't doesn't don't understand costuming. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.119 For me, back then, I was one person. I didn't 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.520 have a shopper. I did it. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.839 I didn't have a shopper, didn't have a shopper. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.400 It was me John Casey are custom super John K. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.560 And there was no internet so I couldn't order stuff online. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.680 And we were in Valencia and Nordstrom hadn't even opened yet. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.360 It was Target was the only thing out there. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.679 Wow, and have to come in town. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.880 I have would I'd come in at four thirty in 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.000 the morning. We didn't have cel year in the field going. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.960 I have a size, so we'd have a pager. It 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.919 would be nine one one if somebody didn't like what 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.279 they were wearing, because it is that important. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.760 Yes, so I need hilarious Kathleen. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:37.800 So I think what we would do is we would 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.120 do like a big fitting, like you and I would 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.400 do a fitting and we would just build a closet 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.000 so we'd try a bunch of stuff on say like 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.280 like like like don't like and buy a claw, you know. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.680 But we were doing these every seven days, so it 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.200 was really difficult. And then when we were doing double 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.920 ups for people who don't know what that is, we 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.880 were doing two episodes at the same time with two 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.359 separate units. And I still didn't have extra you I 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.000 never and I didn't have an assistant costume designer. I 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:03.760 didn't have a shopper. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:04.680 Unbelievable. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:06.839 No, I look back now and I'm like, you just 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.480 and I had I think I think Trey was my pa. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.360 It was like doing returns at the time or something. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.440 Wow, when what was John doing? He was? 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.279 He ended up he ended up starting to do the 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.560 men like he because I noticed this because I kept 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.200 seeing Billy and all of John's vintage Hawaiian Sure. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:29.360 Where those came from? 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.320 Yeah, But so I look back now and it was 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.920 amazing because now you can order so much online and 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.840 I would be able to order stuff online, and I 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.680 was trying to I was trying to find new designers. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.960 I was trying to be really cutting edge, and and 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.360 that's why I go into l A and then come 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.320 back to Valencay at the day, like, yeah. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:49.560 Is it possible. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.320 I feel like I have this memory of meeting you 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.840 at the mall when I first when my character first 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.800 came on, and like I did a shopping trip with 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.200 you at the mall. I met you, and like it 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.120 is a much more efficient way to do it then 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.800 you know, you bring a whole closet to the set 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.240 and trying it on there. It was like meet me 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.200 at the mall and we had like a studio services 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.680 room and like just like yeah, I was in heaven, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.240 like this is yeah, that sounds so does that seem 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:15.800 for reasonable? 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.320 I mean, and then that would never happen now, right, 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:19.239 I mean you'd never. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.280 Lead at the mall. Had it happened now. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:24.560 Somebody can see what's out there. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:25.200 Yeah. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.080 But I do have to say I saw one episode 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:28.960 and because I would come up with these cute ideas, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.760 and then it was a leopard cape. It was it 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:33.320 was a cape. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:33.680 It was a. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.520 Poncho and we made it into a skirt. You saw 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.920 two inches of it on, yeah, and as you swoop 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:41.640 and I was like, well that. 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:42.440 Was a wasted. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:44.800 We remember that. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.480 We commented on that and yeah, and I was like, 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.840 that looks like a Christmas tree skirt a little bit, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:52.280 but it wasn't that far. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:52.920 It was a cave. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.360 Yeah, I guess it was. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.400 But you amazing, But you haven't even gotten to like 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.560 season two three or VI where I don't know if 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.200 you remember things got pretty wacky. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.000 Is I'll just speak for myself with. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.160 My character, we were having so much fun and you 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.080 were amazing, like you were let's try this, let's do that. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.400 And do you remember that part of. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.200 It, like as the show evolved, that you got to 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.280 be creative and that you got to really like lean 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.119 into like how the characters were changing and stuff, because 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.800 personally I had a great experience of that. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:25.679 Do you remember? 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:26.040 Yeah? 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.760 And I think for me the fact that they trusted 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.360 me after a certain point because the show was getting 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.080 a lot of notoriety for the costumes and and I 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.440 think that they just let me have fun. And I 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.840 mean I have to say, like the suits at D 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.280 and D is so boring. I mean, that's like anything. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:44.400 I could do. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:45.200 I mean, it just is. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.560 It's like a workplace that explains that lime green one 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.040 with the Bodice ties up. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:57.040 To that, but it just you know, you want to 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.160 do something that's like fun and different and creative, and 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.679 I think that Sydney was like the perfect character to 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.600 do that also got to do with Josie. And even 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.000 though I know you guys didn't like the funeral outfit because. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.960 Chaplin was like, what are we talking about it? 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.800 We did not like it. We said it was cool, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.640 but it was like, what that's a little oversight. It 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.559 was like a thirties thing that I don't know. It 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:22.320 was like she was wearing. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.400 Well, we did comment on our bucket hats. You have 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.079 these her and these hats. Maybe also I think you 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.040 went with what we liked. So maybe that was Josie's preference, 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.120 you like these little hats with the roses. I don't know, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.440 but I know with me, I'm sure you did. What ever, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.960 I don't know about Alison and D and D, but 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.560 you know, to say to me, Daphney playing Joe, like 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:42.800 what do you think of this? What do you think 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.160 I think we could have like a leeway. I don't 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.520 know if there was that much leeway. And it was 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:48.640 hard D and. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.280 D because you spent you ended up spending so much 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.120 time in D and D. Yeah, except for when but 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.760 I did. We did love a legging. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.480 We did love a legging, like you remember. I remember 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.959 you saying to me you gotten a note from spelling shorter, brighter, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:04.840 tighter on Allison. Do you remember that. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.360 I'm sure that that was said. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.120 Shorter, brighter, But what I see when I look at 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.240 it is me because I was so self conscious that 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.640 I wanted these voluminous shirts, which I think probably in 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.320 real life looked good like Annie Hall sort of voluminous 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.120 shirts and baggy pants, which on camera are terrible. So 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.959 I wondered if you were thinking, look at Heather, who's 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.280 wearing fitted clothes, and then why are you insisting on 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.480 these baggy clothes? Because you have to deal with our insecurities, right, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.160 But were you thinking maybe you gave me that note 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.720 to try to like prod me into wearing something fitting. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.920 I remember specifically you being very self conscious about your 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.040 body and me thinking, she's out of her mind. She 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.480 looks amazing, like she looks great, But you know, it's hard. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.280 It's hard to if you're not in the body, like, yeah, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.240 it's what you feel comfortable in, and that's you know, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.080 I know, if somebody put me in a short skirt, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.679 I would feel. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.120 Horrible, right even if they said, but your legs are gorgeous, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.160 it's your That's true. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.280 The problem with actresses in Hollywood throughout time, I mean 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:09.160 comfort versus what the you know, decision makers want because 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.960 what cells has always been at odds. It's not very 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.600 comfortable what cells and what they want. I mean, otherwise 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.840 we'd all be in sweats and like fancy leisure wear, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.600 you know, and it would be so comfortable. The shoes alone, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.280 we're doing the most common everyday things they want you in, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.920 like heels which have ruined the feet, by the way, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.600 so be careful youngsters. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.720 It's true, but I often say this whenever I start 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.840 a job. I always say to an actor, now, like 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.720 I will never put you any in anything that you 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.359 feel uncomfortable in or it's going to affect your performance. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.839 Like if you don't feel like you're the character, you 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.319 don't feel comfortable. The last thing you want to be worried. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.320 About is like, yeah, you look, or how you feel 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.240 for you And you would have those battles like I 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.559 remembered them saying we want Courtney in this, and you 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.240 would say, I'll just tell them that I wanted you 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.640 in this. I do really stand up for us. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.960 Yeah, I do remember them like I'm saying, and I'm like, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:02.960 I'm not going to push something. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.240 Yeah, No, I remember that too. I remember. I just 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.600 remember us having creative. I don't remember any issues from 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:12.160 the from the guys in are in Joe's situation. I 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.720 remember us having a blast, and like I would also 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.760 look forward to what I would come into, you know, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.360 and to add to my closet clothes were really cute. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.080 I would still wear them. But I do have to say, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.040 you know, obviously this is thirty years ago, so times 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.840 have changed. But I don't feel certainly now that there's 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.440 as much pressure about being thin as there was back then. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.080 It seemed like a different time, Like it was there 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.720 was sort of a type that everybody wanted to be, 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:39.240 like thin, Yeah, and it's not like that anymore. There's 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.880 so many different shapes and it's sort of celebrated, and 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.760 I just feel like thirty years ago it wasn't. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:44.839 It wasn't at all. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.520 And that was also we overlapped with friends and they 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.000 were getting smaller and smaller and smaller. So the idea 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.880 ideal went from four to two to zero. It was 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.120 like it was so it was crazy. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.200 So well we yeah, I don't know what we were. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.640 I remember that for sure. I remember like and there 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.719 was a double zero in there, so I was like, oh, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:04.520 I'm only a zero. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.160 Like the department stores they would have, it would be 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.800 a cat fight to get the zeros of the like that. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.760 You would have to like tell me when theory is 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.160 getting new stuff in, and it was like a cat 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.319 because they'd be gone like that. And only in La 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:20.000 would that happened. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.120 And there's no online, No, that wasn't online. Yeah, so 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.319 you would have to carry all the returns back. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:31.240 I did have a PA to do that, right, Yeah. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.559 So Denise you you I don't know if it was 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.920 like there were some looks that you really brought to 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.480 Meloe's place that stood out, like those chunky belts that 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.360 we saw, you know, and chokers and I know, I 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.080 mean I remember being in a shopper somewhere when I 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.560 know that chokers and the necklaces that you brought to 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.440 Melos place became such a fat I mean everyone wanted them, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.360 you know, and people were reaching out. I remember being 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.199 somewhere and people saying, oh my god, I love those 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.600 necklaces you would have on Meloe's place. I don't know 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.839 how exactly there were different others than like chokers or 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.000 a little I love k. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.000 One of the drop down I need a little larrier. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.520 Designers comeing to you and like wanting to stuff, and like, yeah. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.520 A jewelry was easy jewelry because people would and I 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.120 still work with the same people. I mean, there's this designer, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.560 April Star Davis. She makes made this. You know, I 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.240 still use her thirty years later. But you know, people 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.320 like that, and this designer Lori Lori and this vintage designer. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.440 They would send me boxes because that's easy. You could 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.000 send a box of jewelry and then I would just 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.200 keep what I wanted and send the rest back and 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.720 to send them a check. So the jewelry was something 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.960 I could really play with. And also, if you think 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.520 about it, like everything is like this. You do those 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:42.040 close ups and this is what you're seeing, and I 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.800 just in that first time, I'm like, wow, really cute jewelry, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.520 Like all of that jewels was super cute. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:51.200 Oh that was you. I know, you like started treads. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.680 It wasn't just like you were following a trend. You know, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.760 like those were art. I don't know other shows that 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.000 really had that choker look or the known for the necklace. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:00.920 But I'm in watching I thought it was really cute. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.640 When did they notice? When did the budgets shift? Because 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.680 I'm guessing the first year the budget was probably pretty tight. Yeah, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.400 as we became sort of a fashion show, when did 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:10.280 that shift? 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.760 I don't remember. I don't remember there being a shift. 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.400 I just look back now and thought, I think to myself, 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:17.720 we didn't have any money. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:17.840 To do that. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.560 I was, but I don't remember every being hassled. But 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.800 I also remember being very conscientious about what we spent. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.040 And I think we had something called like an amort fund, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.680 which we would just build the closet over the But 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.359 who does thirty two episodes? 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.840 No, it's insane, and to do too it once for 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.720 the customer especially, you just can't imagine a hustle that 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.920 like it seemed like an impossible task and somehow you 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:46.560 managed it. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.800 And yeah, and also it's not like we had like 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.120 in this closet things that we'd rewar except if it 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:52.840 were a pair of jeans, you know, blue jeans or 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.600 black jeans, or some shoes that were comfortable that worked 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.960 with things boots, but like I never wore the same 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.320 top twice. I don't think did anyone else. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:07.600 You wear the same jacks and down jacket that had 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.120 like these Hawaiian I wore them twice, You were twice, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.000 and Billy wore a couple of things twice. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:15.880 On Melrose. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.200 Well, my memory of Andrews, he didn't care, like you 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.080 put in his trailer. He'd put it on like he 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.560 was like, so, why was he wearing this? Like he 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.720 never he didn't care. Andrew, Oh, he didn't didn't care. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.360 Link yeah, like you want to fit you go, I 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:27.840 don't care, just put it in my room. He didn't care. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.480 But he and Grant they look great and everything looked great. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:32.760 Did they really wear a shirt? 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.000 And there was a scene recently which I couldn't keep 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.960 talking about where Andrews in in jeans and no shirt. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.640 I was like, that's the outfit. He should wear the 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.320 Hawaiian shirts shirt out of the equation. Why was he 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:47.119 ever wearing. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.000 I saw that. It was before you guys got together, and. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.520 Yes, you see Alison walk and I'm like, yes, me too, Allison. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:53.600 We're on the same page. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.720 I mean that reminds me, like this show is more 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.640 male sex scene, you know, topless kind of like outfits, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.600 like they were topless more a lot. And I'm just 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.719 wondering if if you had from the boys, like, can 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.600 we just pop a couple of shirts in my thing 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.000 just in case I want not want to be half nude? 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.840 Do you know what I mean? Like would Grant or 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.680 or Andrew or anyone. Thomas didn't do it as much, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.480 but like give me some T shirts and care and 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:22.880 just in care. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.200 I don't think so. I don't think they cared. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:24.800 They didn't care. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:25.399 They just went. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:25.960 They just went. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.600 They were so easy shirtless again. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.040 Yeah, I Doug like Doug. I mean we were trying 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.639 to like make him look a little fashioning and a 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.679 little bright, but without being stereotypical. And he was a 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:37.280