1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, March thirteenth, and a 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: retired Air Force general has been missing for two weeks, 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: vanished almost without a trace. And one of the leading 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: theories about what happened to him aliens took him. And 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: That was not overstating what's happening. Folks are really thinking 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: aliens might have taken. 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: This general or someone who thinks he has information about aliens. 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: But yes, there is an alien connection to this missing 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: retired major general. His name is William Neil McCaslin. His 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: wife calls him Neil, so that's what he goes by. 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: But he the reason why there's this connection. He was 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: the commander of a very specific Air Force base, right 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Patterson Air Force famous, storied, Yes, and for more than 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: two decades that was the headquarters for what is called 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Project Blue Book. And it's an Air Force program that 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: investigated UFOs. 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: So this guy though was Yes, he was only in 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: charge of it for two years. But now he has 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: been retired for quite some time. But General McCaslin two 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago walked away from his home near Albuquerque. He 22 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: walked out, he didn't take a lot of his stuff, 23 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: but he took a wallet, they say. They say he 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: took his gun, a thirty eight caliber weapon, walked out, disappeared, 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: didn't take his phone with him. I have that correct, Correct, 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: growth didn't have his phone and he has not been 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: seen since. Now. The word is he's got he's good upstairs. 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Right. 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: This is not some old man who walked off with dementia. 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Correct, He's sixty eight years old. But his wife said 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: on Facebook that he was not suffering from dementia, that 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: he has his faculties about him. He's an avid out doorsman, 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: by the way. He is known to hike and run 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: and bike all through this area in New Mexico, so 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: he's very familiar with his surroundings. And look, he had 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: his hiking boots on him, so authorities are pretty sure 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: he left on foot. But the other interesting is he 38 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: brought his wallet with him, but he left his phone behind. 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: He brought his gun or his hiking boots, but he 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: left his prescription glasses behind. There's a lot of clues 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: that don't make a lot of sense. 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: So with all of that robes, you throw in where 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: he was based, you throw in I guess robes. You 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: could even throw in the fact that he lives in 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: New Mexico. 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: Yep, you sir, sure ken. 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: And then there's one other thing the wife throws in 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: that I really didn't understand from the Blink one eighty 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: two guy. Yeah, this partnership is another reason folks are 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: thinking UFOs here. 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: So after he retired, and he's been retired for thirteen years, 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: I believe is the exact amount of time he worked 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: as an unpaid consultant to the Stars. I didn't know 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: about this organization, but the New York Times has profiled them. 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Read as much as I could about them. But yeah, 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: the Stars is a part of involve They involve themselves 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: in investigating UFOs. And yes, you're right, it's bizarrely founded 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: by Tom DeLong, a singer and guitarist, A former singer 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: and guitarist in the band Blink one two, who knew. 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was going on. But you throw 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: in all these associations, right, robes. But going back to 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: the one now, I think a lot of people might 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: not even be familiar with out of Dayton, Ohio. He 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: was in charge of this base that isn't in charge 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: right now. Necessarily of doing some kind of UFO research, 66 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: but robes. This was a big historic deal when it happened. 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: This is where the US government first said, hey, we 68 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: better research and put some information out to the public 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: about what's happening in the sky. 70 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and when you start to look at what this 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: missing commander's credentials are, they're very impressive. He got his 72 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: master's degree and doctorate in aeronautical engineering from MIIIT. This 73 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: is a smart, smart guy. And yes, while he was 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: with the Air Force, he served in a variety of 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: space research, acquisition, and operational roles. So we mentioned that 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: one Air Force base, but he also worked at Air 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: Force bases in Utah, New Mexico, as well as the Pentagon. 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: This is a smart, smart guy who had access to 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: all of the information that so many people want to know. 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: And yes, this connection to UFOs, this connection to aliens, 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: this connection to this research is all swirling around his 82 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: disappearance right now. And yes, it has peaud the interest. Well, 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: it's certainly gained national interest now because of his connection 84 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: to all of this. 85 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: And we go back to Dayton, Ohio. It was called 86 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Project blue Book, and this is a project that went 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: and the work went on there for a decade. But 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: this was after Robes. There started to be sightings UFO 89 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: sightings all around and became kind of a fever pitch 90 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in the country that people thought something was going on. 91 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: People wanted to know what was happening, and a lot 92 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: of theories got going about UFOs. This was also at 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: a time where we're in competition with other countries where 94 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: they spying on us. So, right, Patterson there right there 95 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: in Dayton, Ohio. 96 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: Wude, I didn't know about this. 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Did you know about this? I'm kind of a UFO guy, 98 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: so it kind of makes sense. That makes sense, right, 99 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: I would be that guy. But the old roswell had 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: to be checked out, and they did all of this 101 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: work there Robes. Again, this was in the fifties, forties, fifties, sixties, 102 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: I think was going on. Yeah, in the middle of 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: the fifties for sure. 104 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: Up to this this was I think they shut down 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: the program in the late sixty nine seventies. 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: He was in charge of this in what two thousand 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: and what, So he wasn't he wasn't in there, you know, 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: doing UFO research. But this is a like the stuff 109 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: of lore out of this base and if you're connected 110 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: to that base. If you told me that you worked there, 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: the first thing out of my mouth would have been 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: about alien What do they look like? He was what 113 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: did you learn of that place? Like today, if I 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: run into somebody who works there, like, yo, come on, 115 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: tell me, I would. But he was in charge of 116 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: that place. He's missing, nobody knows where, why, how, there's 117 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: a mystery, and he worked where this other mysterious place. 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: You could see where this was going. 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then worked with the Stars. So and in 120 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: terms of they were formed in twenty seventeen, it's a 121 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: team of twelve and there are plenty of former governor 122 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: and government employees who are working on this team where 123 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: they are trying to uncover the mysteries in the skies. 124 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: And his wife specifically said that her husband helped this 125 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: organization to stars with military and technical scientific matters. So 126 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: this is a guy who had information, who knows things 127 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: that most of us don't know on a lot of things, 128 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: but specifically on what the government knows about aliens. You know. 129 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: But I was laughing at her, you know, I give 130 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: her credit. She sounds like somebody who's been through enough, 131 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: lived enough life, and she almost has a bit of 132 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: a sense of humor, but she said, are you kidding me? 133 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: It seems highly unlikely anybody's going to kidnap him to 134 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: find out some outdated secrets, Like he didn't know that 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: much in the first place, and certainly the stuff he 136 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: knew was a long time ago. She was dismissive of 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: it in such a way, and that's how she chose 138 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: to say it kidnap him for outdated secrets. 139 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: Yes, so if someone didn't kidnap him for outdated secrets, 140 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: then the other operating theory is that aliens took him 141 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: because he knows too much about them. 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's prevailing. I mean, what else do we have. Look, 143 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about and people are speaking about this in 144 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: a lighter manner or because it has to do with aliens. 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: But right now a woman is missing her husband, Yeah, 146 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: for two weeks without a trace, and this does not 147 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: sound good. Shed at least acknowledged and addressed some of 148 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: the stuff that's out there, and I give her credit 149 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: for that. But Robes, this is still I mean, Nancy 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Guthrie is on the back of your mind. 151 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: It is because look, New Mexico, Arizona, they're obviously in 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: this same type of area, the same type of terrain. 153 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: You're talking about mass expanse of desert and highlands, and 154 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: this is difficult terrain for searchers to go through just 155 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: because of the sheer amount of it. 156 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: We're not and there is no suggestion that anything that 157 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: happened to Nancy Guthrie. No, certainly no connection, but certainly not. 158 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: They're not similar in terms of they think there was 159 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: foul play or something here. We're not to that point. 160 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: But robes similar and that too. Elderly folks just up 161 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: and disappear without a trace, and this is how this 162 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: one has started. 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a fair just it's not that 164 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: any authority is making a connection, but certainly there are 165 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: similarities where it's the same area. It's elderly folks, they 166 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: are vanished without a trace. There's no police, have no clue, 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: they have no idea. 168 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: And now, yes, the. 169 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: FBI is officially involved with this now trying to find 170 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: this general. 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: But folks, we mentioned so many folks out there online 172 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: and talking about theories and talking about aliens. Well, the 173 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: wife of the general put out a statement and she 174 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: spoke specifically to a lot of those theories, and I 175 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: give her credit for her comments. We'll let you hear 176 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: them say here. 177 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: Welcome back to this episode of Amy and TJ, where 178 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: there is a mystery growing around a miss retired major general. 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: His name is William Neil McCasland. He was living in 180 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: Albuquerque with his wife, sixty eight years old. Retired general. 181 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: The problem for a lot of folks, or I say, 182 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: the issue, the reason why it's making such national headlines. 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: This is a general who worked at Wright Patterson Air 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: Force Base, an air Force base known to be the 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: headquarters of where this country has investigated alien life UFOs. 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: You name it, General mcaslin, A lot of people believe 187 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: knows the answers to all the mysteries surrounding extraterrestrial life. 188 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: Not so much, his wife says. But as the search 189 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: continues for him, he walked away from his home two 190 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: weeks ago today, and the FBI is involved, Law enforcement 191 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: is involved. The search is ongoing, and there is not 192 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: a clue. You know what there is a clue? Can 193 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: I Actually I forgot to mention I thought this was interesting. 194 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: The only thing that police have found so far is 195 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: a gray US Air Force sweatshirt. They found it about 196 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: a mile from his home. There's no blood on it, 197 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: and they haven't confirmed if it's actually his, but it 198 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: would seem like that would probably be the case. But 199 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: how about that just his sweatshirt a mile from his home, 200 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: just on the ground with nothing else around. 201 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Know how they can't say that's his. I mean, obviously 202 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: he'll be able to know what I'm saying. His wife 203 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: would be able to look at it. I don't know 204 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: why they're not saying it's his or not either, right. 205 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: I thought it was bizarre they find this thing, And 206 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: that said, the family hasn't confirmed whether or not it's his. 207 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: It seems strange it is or it isn't. But hey, 208 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: you remember all those black gloves around Nancy Guthrie's house 209 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: that looked like the ones the guy on the ring 210 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: cam was and it had nothing to do with nothing, 211 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: So who knows. 212 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: Us air force sweatshirt? So anyway, that's truly the only 213 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: clue they have found. But his wife has gone on 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: to Facebook, and she has, as you mentioned, tried to 215 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: at least have a little bit of a light hearted 216 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: outlook about some of the operating theories about out there 217 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: about why or how he's gone missing. She wrote, Neil 218 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: does not have any special knowledge about the extraterrestrial bodies 219 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: and debris from the Roswell crash stored at right pat 220 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: though at this point, with absolutely no sign of him, 221 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: maybe the best hypothesis is that aliens beamed him up 222 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: to the mothership. However, no sightings of a mothership hovering 223 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: above the Sandia Mountains have been reported. That is from 224 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: his wife. 225 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: No, she sounds a little frustrated, a little fed up, 226 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: and maybe just kind of let something out. I mean, 227 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: she's missing, her husband, has no idea where he is. Again, 228 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: no foul play suspected here, and she sees all the 229 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: stuff out there and it's probably annoying. I don't know 230 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: how much of it is comical, but some of it 231 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: can seem mean if you're sitting on that end. Possibly 232 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: so good for her at least acknowledging it. 233 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. She says that morning she left to 234 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: go I believe, to the doctors or to run an errand, 235 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: and he was there. Everything seemed fine, and when she 236 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: came back, he was just gone. They believe he left 237 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: around eleven am Friday, February twenty seventh, and they are 238 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: asking police have dogs, they have drones, they have helicopters. 239 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: He supposedly has unspecified medical issues, but it's not supposed 240 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: to be deeply concerning the way we heard about Nancy 241 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: Guthrie needing her pills to stay alive. We haven't gotten 242 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: anything on that level, but we know that law enforcement 243 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: so far has gone door to door. They said they 244 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: have literally knocked on the doors of six hundred homes 245 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: and businesses trying to find any answers, any clues about 246 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: where he may be. And much like the Nancy Guthrie case, 247 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: we're hearing now from officials asking anyone in the area 248 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: to look at their ring camera videos. They're trying to 249 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: find any video, anything that could at least show where 250 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: he may be. But again, it's so similar to the 251 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: Guthrie case, and that this is out there. This isn't 252 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: some metropolis where you've got people with cameras and street 253 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: cams everywhere. This is a true mystery. 254 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: We will keep an eye on this one like so 255 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: many people are, but keep them in your thoughts as 256 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: you're commenting out there or maybe cracking a joke or 257 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: to or think some of it's funny having to do 258 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: with these associations. You'll see a lot of those comments 259 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: out there, but yeah, there's a woman out there and 260 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: a family out there, and it's turning because they don't 261 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: know what's happened to their loved one. We'll keep a 262 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: close eye on this one. We always appreciate you spending 263 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: some time with us on behalf of my dear Amy Robot. 264 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm TJ. Holmes. Talk soon.