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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show. Happy Valentine's Day. Is

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Speaker 1: it okay for men to say Happy Valentine's Day to

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Speaker 1: each other because it's happened today? To me, I've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of wait a second, you got Happy Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, but kind of sort of kidding a little bit, like, ey,

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Speaker 1: happy Valentine's Day, brother, you know, like are you taking

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Speaker 1: care of your Valentine's Day business sort of stuff, Guys

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Speaker 1: kind of reminding each other. You know, if you listen

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Speaker 1: to Sports Radio six ' ten, you can't help but

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Speaker 1: know it's Valentine's Day. Because, in fact, I don't hear

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Speaker 1: quite as many of those commercials we used to do.

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Speaker 1: I used to get all those live reads when I

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Speaker 1: was on in the morning Drive many moons ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all those you know, this gift and that gives eight

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Speaker 1: or log on and website they have some of it,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. Yeah, I don't hear as much of

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Speaker 1: that anymore because it's all gone online.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's all gone online, of course. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: my wife is still in La. She went to La

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Speaker 2: just in between work trips and was out there hanging

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Speaker 2: with my daughter so I don't want to say them.

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Speaker 1: Off the hook, but I mean she'll be back on

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth. So I hope you sent a little text

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Speaker 1: message with some little flowers and things. I send a

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Speaker 1: dozen roses to the house. Did Yeah, yeah, she started

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Speaker 1: pricey shoddy. I know it is it is, but I

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Speaker 2: She might get mad. You like that much money on me? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like a one hundred or FTD or whatever, one of

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Speaker 2: those one of those one air flowers. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: which one it was. But I had like a discount. Hey,

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Speaker 2: get thirty percent off roses. So I yet, look at

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Speaker 2: I saw this meme. Single people hate Valentine's Day. Married

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Speaker 2: people hate Valentine's Day. Everybody hates Valentine's.

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Speaker 1: Day, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I remember the first Valentine's Day my page and I

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Speaker 2: started going out and we didn't we were twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty two at the time.

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Speaker 2: She's littler in me, and we just weren't thinking anywhere,

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Speaker 2: like let's go to this new Japanese steakouse. I always

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Speaker 2: loved going to japs task or a single. Oh, it

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Speaker 2: was so dumb. We didn't make reservations. It's like an

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Speaker 2: hour forty five minute way. Yeah, I think we end

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Speaker 2: up beat a subway that night.

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Speaker 1: You need no, you don't need you don't need rezies there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: do it Saturday night or Thursday, you know, or a

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Speaker 1: night or two away from the actual date, or you

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Speaker 1: make resis or whatever. But anyway, we're here to talk sports.

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Speaker 1: We're here to talk about the Houston Texans in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League where there is no off season, like

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Speaker 1: the deep Voice guy said at the beginning of this program,

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Speaker 1: and we go to the Combine a week from Monday,

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Speaker 1: will be in Indianapolis. As I know, that's great for you.

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Speaker 1: You love watching these college guys work out. And I

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Speaker 1: love being at the combine too. I love it for

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Speaker 1: the convention sense of it, being around all these NFL peeps,

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Speaker 1: seeing all the former Texans employees, coaches, current coaches, and

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Speaker 1: seeing people who do what we do and talking to

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Speaker 1: them and getting the industry best practices going. You just

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Speaker 1: love hearing about all that stuff. Anyway, we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: a lot about that next week in the week after.

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Speaker 1: But tonight, Johnny, it's Friday. We're gonna have some fun.

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Speaker 1: It's Valentine's Day, We're gonna let it all hang out here.

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Speaker 1: Nick Kelly is the new offensive coordinator, introduced to the

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Speaker 1: media and the world yesterday as the new offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: for your Texans and you and I had John mcclan on,

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Speaker 1: so we talked about it with the General. We talked

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Speaker 1: to Nick himself here in this studio, the Hunday Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio studio. That was very cool, But we haven't had

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Speaker 1: a chance to chop it up together about the new WAYOC.

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Speaker 1: Now that we've had a chance to spend some time

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Speaker 1: some people had PTSD when they heard game plan game

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Speaker 1: don't think the game plan offense worked that well under

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Now we're d well enough to the tune

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Speaker 1: of a lot of division titles, four of them, and

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Speaker 1: But one little note about the Bill O'Brien eraw, which

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Speaker 1: largely because of the defense, not to the offense. The

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Speaker 1: O'Brien coach teams here had outstanding defenses on many occasions.

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Speaker 1: Led the league in takeaways in fourteen his first year,

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Speaker 1: Now nineteen they sort of dropped off on defense. The

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Speaker 1: in the O'Brien era. But I like that Killy's got

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Speaker 1: a mix of things, a little bit of Patriots, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of Ramseean McVay. So he's been baptized in

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Speaker 1: So I think we're all eager to see what he

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Speaker 1: So I don't know why it hit me.

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Speaker 2: I got in the car this morning in I had

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, don't, don't ask me why. But

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Speaker 2: noticed this too. There are a couple of times when

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, you're.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Sean McVay. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just just the mannerisms and just his energy and

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it hit me, but I wrote

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Speaker 2: so I was like, I'm gonna write these down. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know how this. Okay, this didn't come out

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Speaker 2: the way that it was supposed to. But my first

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Speaker 2: that I would love to see mcveigh's offense with Bill

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Speaker 2: think Bill is the best game manager that I can

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Speaker 2: ever remember seeing as head coach, and Bill was and

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Speaker 2: could go down as maybe the greatest defensive coordinator there's

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Speaker 2: so many NFL clips where he would walk over and

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Speaker 2: and he talked to his defense and he'd be like, guys,

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Speaker 2: this game is all about slants and incuts, slants and incuts.

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Speaker 2: Like he knew the style of game and the type

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Speaker 2: is hugely important for an offensive coordinator to know, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what kind of game is this going to be? Is

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Speaker 2: you go in there with the plan. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I asked him the question about adaptability, because I think

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Speaker 2: adapting in a game is huge and it's what Belichick,

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Speaker 2: I thought, and his staff did so very well. Like

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Speaker 2: you go in there with a thought of the game

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Speaker 2: oh wait a second, we gotta adapt, we gotta change

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Speaker 2: because it's kind of turning out to be this, and

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Speaker 2: Belichick had a great way of understanding what that was

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Speaker 2: I really like mcveigh's offensive scheme. I like the motion

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Speaker 2: the day, way back in the day, you didn't get

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Speaker 2: a lot of motion. But when you got motion, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you gotta rotate. Then you got to make sure everybody

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Speaker 2: And boom the ball snapped and you're still trying to

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Speaker 2: the Eagles did that a few times to the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So I would like to see.

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Speaker 2: Mcveigh's kind of scheme with kind of Belichick's approach and

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Speaker 2: game management, if that could be. What kind of Nick

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Speaker 2: on an offensive scale does that.

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Speaker 1: The other one is this, I think that Nick is

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Speaker 1: a coach, and.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between mean being a coach

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Speaker 2: Bobby was the son of a coach. He know it's

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Speaker 2: not a coach, But I think Nick has coached the

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Speaker 2: uh and requirements of all the different positions, like understanding

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Speaker 2: But I do think that being a coach and having

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Speaker 2: been that position coach for a while will help down

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Speaker 2: the road as he does this and adapting and knowing

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Speaker 2: what his players can do and can't do. And that

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Speaker 2: things and I would show you, like look at this

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Speaker 2: Like we were at New York playing the Jets, and

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Speaker 2: we know the Jets are a penetrating defense, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna get upfield, They're gonna create havoc.

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Speaker 1: And there was there was.

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Speaker 2: A pass protection that I showed you that we looked

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Speaker 2: you know, like you're asking You're asking Jewe Scrugs to

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Speaker 2: they had. Well, immediately kin Law gets for you know,

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Speaker 2: he gets heat on CJ. CJ's got to move around.

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Speaker 2: We end up throwing the ball away. Now it's started twelve,

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Speaker 2: and I just remember thinking that on the.

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Speaker 1: Blackboard, that probably looks good.

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Speaker 2: It probably I mean, I've I've done a million times

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Speaker 2: I've drawn up playing going well, looks good when I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it should should work, It should work.

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Speaker 2: But then you got to step back kind of thirty

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Speaker 2: gets bumped out. Wolf is still there. They don't move

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Speaker 2: Wolf out, They leave Wolf there. Yeah, so Wolf and

434
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Speaker 2: all the scouts are you know those are you know

435
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Speaker 2: a Lonzo Highsmith went there because he had experience with

436
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Speaker 2: the Wolf family.

437
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Speaker 1: He had been with Ron Wolf of Green Bay.

438
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Speaker 2: So Zoe goes there last year, then they bring in Vrabel,

439
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: and then Vrabel brings in his guy, Ryan Cowden, and

440
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, Who's who's making a call in charge?

441
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: Is Rabel in another situation like he was with John

442
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: Robertson and Ran Karten where he doesn't quite have that's

443
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Speaker 2: exactly power that you think he might exactly and that

444
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 2: that to me ends up being the question that these

445
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: organizations have to figure out is who makes the final call.

446
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: Now I've said this before, I said this a million

447
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Speaker 2: times that there are there are certain situations where the

448
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Speaker 2: head coach, Like when Pete Carroll's in Seattle, he had

449
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: a really good general manager, John Schneider, but Schneider didn't

450
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Speaker 2: make any calls. He fed Carol everything. Pete Carroll made

451
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Speaker 2: every final great working relationship Kyle. That's exactly right. Same situation,

452
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Speaker 2: Kyle makes the final call. John and his staff bring

453
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Speaker 2: him all the candidates, all the idea, you know, all

454
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Beach and Andy Reid. That's exactly right.

455
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: So there are ways is done throughout the league. You'll

456
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Speaker 2: get Tennessee and you go, okay, well you've got Brian

457
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Speaker 2: Callahan and now you've got Chad Brinker and Mike Borganzi, like, okay,

458
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Speaker 2: who makes the final call?

459
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Speaker 1: And so and neither Well Breaker was there with Callahan hired,

460
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: right exactly. Borganzi wasn't. So you wonder how he feels

461
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Speaker 1: about it? Right, So how do you get that?

462
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Speaker 2: And so I asked this individual, I said, well, how's

463
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Speaker 2: that going to go? Who's who's basically in charge? And

464
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Speaker 2: he said, well, I think the plan is they're going

465
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Speaker 2: to figure it out. Well that's tough man, holy cow.

466
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Speaker 1: And so I look at Jacksonville and I think the

467
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Speaker 1: same thing.

468
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Speaker 2: Like there's with Selly, long time well respected former Texan

469
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Speaker 2: excuse me, former Jaguar.

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Speaker 1: Sorry that he goes in there like is he making

471
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Speaker 1: the call? Is he making a call in the way?

472
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Speaker 1: Did you see the video that he did when he

473
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Speaker 1: got the JABSELLI? Yeah, it was very compelling. If you're

474
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Speaker 1: a Jags fan, I've always wanted to be about the Jaguars.

475
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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I ever cared about. But you

476
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: took the money from the Texans to that's right, you

477
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: took the money. No, I love you Tony.

478
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Speaker 2: You know that.

479
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Speaker 1: Come on, I'm just having fun here. They sold a

480
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Speaker 1: lot of those number seventy one jerseys in two thousand

481
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Speaker 1: and two. Trust I can imagine.

482
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Speaker 2: But I just when I see teams kind of going

483
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Speaker 2: through this kind of rebuilding, resetting phase or whatever it is,

484
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Speaker 2: it better be pretty damn clear what you're doing and

485
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Speaker 2: what you're because I see some of the names of

486
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Speaker 2: guys that are interviewing for this.

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Speaker 1: For this job at Jacksonville's GM job, and that would

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Speaker 1: be my first question.

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Speaker 2: I walk into the interview and I'd be like, Okay,

490
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Speaker 2: if I'm coming on as GM one of my responsibilities

491
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Speaker 2: because he's sitting over there, that's Liam Cohen and he's

492
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Speaker 2: sitting over there with Tony Boselli. Where do I fit

493
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Speaker 2: in this? Am I going to be just a glorified scout?

494
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Speaker 2: Because if I am, I'll just stay where I am

495
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Speaker 2: and wait for a real GM job to come along.

496
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Speaker 1: But sometimes they're hard to get. I will give you

497
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Speaker 1: a kick. Mike Martin. Mike Martin is now the general

498
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Speaker 1: manager of the Note Tree, a Dame football program, and

499
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Speaker 1: he was in the Lion's front office as Director of

500
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Speaker 1: Scouting or whatever his title was so instead of waiting

501
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: for his NFL GM possibility, he goes to Notre Dame.

502
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: So these college GM jobs, they're evolving at a feverish

503
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: pace from what is this, you know? Is it a

504
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Speaker 1: young guy who's twenty seven, who's great with Excel and

505
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: numbers and all that, just grinding and finding out who's

506
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Speaker 1: in the portal and presenting the information to the head coach,

507
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Speaker 1: and or is it somebody's supervising a staff and they've

508
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Speaker 1: got their own self imposed cap with the nil money.

509
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck going to Stanford. We talked about what's his name,

510
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Speaker 1: Adrian wo Zanowski going to Saint Bonaventure basketball. They're not

511
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Speaker 1: doing too well, by the way, but I get it.

512
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Speaker 1: It's tough. It's Saint Bonaventure. They are located. You cannot

513
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Speaker 1: get there from anywhere. You have to fly to Buffalo

514
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Speaker 1: and still drive an hour and a half to get

515
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Speaker 1: to Saint Bonaventure. It's that brutal to get to that place.

516
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Speaker 1: You can't believe. They have to be in a lum

517
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Speaker 1: like he he was. I've done several games on that cam.

518
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: It's wild anyway. So this position of general manager for

519
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: these college programs, it's fascinating to me how this is going,

520
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: because anything's possible at this point. John Robinson interviewed, where

521
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Speaker 1: did the interview one of the colleges? He was definitely no,

522
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Speaker 1: he interviewed for the Jaguars position. I know, but he

523
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Speaker 1: was also interviewing. Oh, you know what. It was South

524
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Speaker 1: Carolina's head coach a football Shane Beemer, Yes, who I

525
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Speaker 1: met at the Lombardi Award. He said he talked to

526
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Speaker 1: John Robinson about the possibility of him coming over. So

527
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Speaker 1: it was at least an exploratory conversation, maybe not a

528
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Speaker 1: formal interview. Bill Belichick all right, brings in MI like Lombardi,

529
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Speaker 1: who wasn't going to get an NFL GM job anymore,

530
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Speaker 1: but he's a college GM now for Belichick's program. That's

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Speaker 1: fascinating that this is now a possibility for NFL front

532
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Speaker 1: office people who have general manager in the crosshairs of

533
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: their career goal. But it's like it's still too far away.

534
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to college.

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Speaker 2: I think this is to me, this is the I'll

536
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: use an analogy that you will probably shoot down in

537
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: some way, shape or form, But why is it a

538
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: classic rock reference?

539
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: Kind of kind of like I play guitar. Okay, what

540
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: would be your next question?

541
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Speaker 2: Uh?

542
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: Lead electric, that kind of thing, right, you know, I

543
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: would try to feel out how good you are bass?

544
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, like what what instrument do you like? Which?

545
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Which guitar? Do I play bass? Do I play electric?

546
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Speaker 1: You would never say you play guitar, No, you're a bassist.

547
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Speaker 1: A bassis would never say that. Okay, A bassist would

548
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: say I play bass, okay.

549
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Speaker 2: My point being, there are various types of guitar that

550
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Speaker 2: you can play right and and be good at that.

551
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: I think it's the same with kind of a general manager.

552
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Speaker 2: Like a general managers just kind of just catch all

553
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: title now because that it's in certain places it means

554
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: different things, right Like Chris Ballad in Indianapolis, Like he's

555
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: making the decisions Indianapolis and that was kind of part

556
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: of his deal going to Indianapolis.

557
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Speaker 1: But does Shane he couldn't have any well, say so

558
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Speaker 1: my input.

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00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: That's my point in NFL in college, that general manager

560
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: job is and it's evolved and it's changed to a

561
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: point that if Mike, like we talked about Mike Martin

562
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Speaker 2: going to Notre Dame.

563
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Speaker 1: When it comes to what Mike wants to do.

564
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Speaker 2: In bringing in players in college, It's very easily I

565
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: could see for him to be overruled by head coach

566
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Speaker 2: in in now. I don't think Marcus Freeman would do that,

567
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying in college, the power structure has

568
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: always been the head coach is the absolute grand Pooba

569
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Speaker 2: making all this time.

570
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Speaker 1: I have no doubt Marcus Freeman has one hundred control

571
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Speaker 1: of the situation.

572
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: And Belichick has that in North Carolina. But I guarantee

573
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Speaker 2: you Belichick is going to give Mike Lombardi a lot

574
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Speaker 2: of authority in personnel and what they do and listen

575
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Speaker 2: to his opinions and how they go about things as.

576
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Speaker 1: Long as he knows the lay of the land properly,

577
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: and Belichick believes in that. Like here, like Demiko Rans

578
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: is not going to have a guy on his team

579
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want on his team, Demko Rans is going

580
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: to be to say I'd rather not Nick on this

581
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: particular player, that particular player. There's no question Nick's job

582
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Speaker 1: is and look they've never come out and said it,

583
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Speaker 1: but I would imagine Nick's job is to make as

584
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Speaker 1: many options available as possible for Demiko and staff to

585
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, look it over and Nick has definite opinions

586
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: on things. They work together, they found a way to

587
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: do it, and they're having good success so far.

588
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: But here's my thing. Also with Jacksonville in particular, you're

589
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: bringing Bisselli. How much does Bisselli know about the inner

590
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: workings of what has been going on? Do you think

591
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: that Bisselli has been banging college tape and watching college

592
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: tape and is looking at it going, hey, I like

593
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Speaker 2: this guy.

594
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Like that guy. I've got notes about this. No, no,

595
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Speaker 1: But I'll give him credit, Johnny, because I bet that

596
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Bisselli knows this. He's a smart dude, and he's thinking,

597
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I want a general manager who I can count on, right,

598
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: and you know he's going to have an opinion, but

599
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: I trust you and I want somebody I can trust

600
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Speaker 1: to make these calls. But I want to oversee the

601
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Speaker 1: football operation because as we all know, there's a lot

602
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: more to it than just well picking players monumentally important,

603
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of understandings of other things as

604
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: well that he definitely has opinions and really informed ones on.

605
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Speaker 2: But he hasn't spent time with an NFL organization other

606
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Speaker 2: than being in the radio booth, which I you know,

607
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: we're around it, right, We're around it all the time.

608
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: But he is. You know, it's Baselli. So who's gonna

609
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: kick him out? No, I get it, And you know

610
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Fame player. But I've said this,

611
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: I've said this a million times.

612
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Man, You people get so locked into well, this guy

613
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: played in the NFL, so he knows all of it.

614
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: And I can tell you some of the least smart

615
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: football players football minds I've ever I've ever seen or heard,

616
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: have been those people that are like, well, I played

617
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL, I should know. And then you like, no, no,

618
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: you got to do the work. You gotta do the work,

619
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Speaker 2: and you've got to understand what this thing is all about.

620
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind for Tennessee and Jacksonville have this little

622
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: GM thing that kind of blows up because I can't

623
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: figure out who's in charge.

624
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: Of who knows what. Let me just a few issues

625
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: here and there, all right, come it up. Rosenthal wrote

626
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: something about trade targets and a Texan was mentioned in

627
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: that my one of my favorite I think this is

628
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: my favorite color commentator in any sport. He's retiring and

629
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: some Demico stuff on the way out from his show

630
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: this season this past season. We'll get to all of

631
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: it here on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer and John Harris

632
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: with you as the show continues here Texans All Access

633
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Speaker 1: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. As Greg Rosenthal, who

634
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Speaker 1: used to be with Pro Football Talk right at NFL

635
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Speaker 1: dot com, Is.

636
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Speaker 2: He still NFL dot com. I think he's still with

637
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Speaker 2: NFL dot Com. I think he's one of the guys.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not. I gosh, I can't remember. Guys find a

639
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: way though, to stick around no matter who they're with.

640
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: They're kind of now. Rosenthal is not the brand, but

641
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: he's a brand in football coverage because he was with

642
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk initially and then NFL dot Com.

643
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: He's got a podcast called NFL Daily. And I think

644
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: this picture I'm looking at it right, it shows NFL.

645
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: It has the NFL symbols on it, so I imagine

646
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: there's some connection to the NFL. But all his Twitter

647
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: bio x bio says it's just football. So either way,

648
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Speaker 2: he's pretty tuned in. He kind of knows this stuff.

649
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Speaker 2: So he posted a list to a love list. At

650
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: this point of the year twenty three intriguing and in

651
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: the parentheses and realistic trade targets.

652
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Realistic so not crazy stuff, not crazy. That guy's calling

653
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: up sports talk radio like, hey can we get Yeah,

654
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: no you can't. Can we trade for Patrick Mahomes?

655
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Not that we would or would want to, but yeah,

656
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: twenty three intriguing in realistic trade targets.

657
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Number one on the list. Who do you think it is? Oh,

658
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: you told me? I think Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett, Well,

659
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: because he wants to be traded. The Browns could really

660
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: use the pick. Yes, they could use some contract freedom. Yes,

661
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I read a PFT tweet. They might have had a

662
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: story on it as well. That Garrett. You know, they're

663
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: in a situation where, hey, you want Garrett, you got

664
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: to take on Watson's contract, or at least a chunk

665
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: of it along with Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett might say,

666
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: are you kidding? I'm trying to get out of this situation.

667
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to go with him somewhere. And it's

668
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: not just because of Watson, but he's a part of it,

669
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: because they're hamstrung Watson deal.

670
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is when we talked about I think I

671
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit you and I don't

672
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: think you've talked about this.

673
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Speaker 1: What do you think of the rumors of Matthew Stafford

674
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: going to the Giants in the trade? Well, because what

675
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: is brother in law coaches there? Right?

676
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: They just the Giants just signed Chad Hall, who is

677
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: Stafford's brother in law. And I think Chad Hall, if

678
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: I remember correctly, Chadthall is a wide receiver back in college.

679
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: He's been a college coach pro coach for a while,

680
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: and the Giants just hired him on their offensive staff.

681
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: And so there's been some you know, people like, wait

682
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: a second, Chat Hall, that's I think it's Matt Stafford,

683
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford's wife's brother, if I remember correctly.

684
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Speaker 1: Okay, whoever he is? My gut reach you talk about

685
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: gut react reaction. My gut reaction to that is, are

686
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Speaker 1: you crazy? Stafford? You really want to go to the

687
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: New York freaking Giants and end up as roadkill. You'll

688
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: be buried with Jimmy Hoffa at the in the cement

689
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: dwellings of the meadowlands. Are you insane? You're not gonna

690
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: make them? Is Matthew Stafford gonna make the Giants that

691
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: much better? A little better. Yes, that much better. No, Okay,

692
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: the Giants are a train wreck the way they're set

693
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: up right now, with the GM making the moves he's made.

694
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Speaker 1: I know they went to the playoffs a couple of

695
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: years ago. They did great. Blah blah blah. No, do

696
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: not do it, your nuts. Stay in LA right off

697
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: into the West coast sunset the rest of your career.

698
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Remember he was drafted in two thousand and nine, he's

699
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: been around a while. Enjoy the rest of it, because

700
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: you're still on a playoff team in all likelihood, and

701
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: you should take advantage of the situation.

702
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: Okay, let me present just I'm playing Devil's advocate because

703
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: I do I do agree with you, all right, I

704
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: do agree. I think the Giants trading for Matt Stafford

705
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: would not be great. But what if the Giants could

706
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: make the trade for Stafford, but they could hang on

707
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: to the number three overall pick. Somehow, some way they

708
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: can hold onto the number three overall pick, they draft

709
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter to put with Malik Neighbors with Stafford.

710
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: Is Hunter going to be a wide receiver or a dB?

711
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Probably a receiver, I don't know. I was listening to

712
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Pat Kerwin. He said he talked to a GM who

713
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: said he's not helping himself by wanting to be a

714
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: two way player. If that's what he wants, yeah, he's

715
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: got to make up his mind.

716
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: Well, I told you, I told you, I told you

717
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: what I texted. Sean Pegast and I were texting one

718
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: day and I start thinking about us and I was like, Derek,

719
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: I said, what if what if we traded all the

720
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: way up to number two and gave up whatever to

721
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: get Travis Hunter? Because you know, we had that issue

722
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: kind of near the end of the season where we're like,

723
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: who plays.

724
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Our third corner?

725
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we had the issue at the end

726
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: of the season of well, we really missed a wide

727
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: receiver next to Nico. And I'm like, what if we

728
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: drafted Travis Hunter and he handled the number two wide

729
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: receiver position next to Nico and then and then became

730
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: the third corner that you could put Kamari inside and

731
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: Travis theon locks up the outside guy Like that, to

732
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: me would end up being perfect because he doesn't have

733
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: to play one hundred and fifty snaps. Like I've talked

734
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: to some scouts that are like I've watched him and

735
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: there are just reps at receiver where he just like

736
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: whatever because he's so tired.

737
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so beat So anyways, right, and you've got

738
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: a block in this up. But let's let's put.

739
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Travis at wide receiver with Malik Dabors, with Stafford, with

740
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: Tyron Tracy went over one thousand yards with a defense

741
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: that's got dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, caveon Thibodeau.

742
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: It's not horrible, Like, here's the problem though you're in

743
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: the NFC. He's been killed by the Commanders and the Eagles.

744
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: That's the problem. And the Cowboys are just a year

745
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: off from winning twelve games. Yeah, I know that's the problem.

746
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: Better next year even with the train well, I don't

747
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: want to call it a train wreck because maybe Brian

748
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer turns out to be a good head coach.

749
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: We talked about that a bit last night. Yeah, I

750
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: mean that that's the problem. And then here's here's a

751
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: problem that goes along with this. Listen to this home

752
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: schedule for the Giants at twenty twenty five. My buddy John,

753
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: we talked to John Schmelk and he was telling me this,

754
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: we're at to senior role. Hear their home opponents Dallas, Philly, Washington, Okay,

755
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Minnesota, Kansas City Chargers, Niners.

756
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, way, can't do it, Stafford, don't do it.

757
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Don't do it to yourself. I don't know what I

758
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: knew about the Giants.

759
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if I try, And I think the

760
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six class the quarterback is going to be

761
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: a little bit better.

762
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: Obviously, Arts Manning's gonna mention and we'll see what Arch

763
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 1: does this year's first year as a starter.

764
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: But you know, the initial thing, the initial thought on

765
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: him when you watch him, like, okay, that's NFL quarterback.

766
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: You know, of course, the Manning pedigree all that kind

767
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: of stuff, and the Giants ending up down the road

768
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: with another Manning would suck, but you know, more power.

769
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: But man at home schedule is tough. But Matt Stafford

770
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: asked the second question with Matt Stafford, is he in

771
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: LA in twenty twenty five?

772
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: Well, that that's how the talk got started, right Would

773
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: they make the move now? But they have nowhere else

774
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: to go? So the Rams really want to take a

775
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: step back at quarterback. Yeah, I don't know, I don't

776
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: know why.

777
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: I mean, McVeigh said, Stafford was the guy who's looking

778
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: for But apparently one of the things that they're not

779
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: all happy about.

780
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Is his wife's got a podcast. All right, she has

781
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: said some stuff too. She said about the backup quarterback.

782
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: What she was dating the backup quarterback at Georgia. Yeah,

783
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: she's dating the backup quarterback at Georgia. That stuff was

784
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: really damaging. I thought to Stafford, that was not cool.

785
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: It's not cool for your wife to come out and

786
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: talk about a guy she was with right while she

787
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: was to make you jealous. Yeah, that was awful. Now

788
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: it was intriguing, it's all get out. I wanted to

789
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: hear it, but for all the wrong reasons, and it

790
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: can't be good in the locker room. Support your man, honey,

791
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: you don't do that to your guy.

792
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: So the next few I want you to tell me.

793
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: I want you to tell me, look at it through

794
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: a Texans lens and just tell me no hell Na

795
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: or might talk about it.

796
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

797
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: Number three is George Pickens No, no hell hell Na, No,

798
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill hell Na, Cooper Cup hell Na.

799
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Okay, MICHAEH.

800
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: Parsons hell Na, Yeah, keep going deepcasts Debo no, okay?

801
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: You know.

802
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Five years ago, four years ago. Maybe you gotta get

803
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: away from brand name recognition. Yea, yeah, you're right, Max Crosby,

804
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: it's not happening. Trey Henderson, Jonathan Allen Commanders interesting, intrigued

805
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: because anybody in the middle here, because you're asking me

806
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: about Simmons. Now, that's a tricky sigue Simmons Titans. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna trade him in in the division,

808
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: but that trades do happen in division, not in this one,

809
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: that's right. So I mean, once upon a time, Wes

810
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: Welker was traded from the Dolphins to the Patriots.

811
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: Here have add to your juggernaut. Yeah, the Dolphins, Joy said,

812
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: Dolphins didn't even believe in Wes Welker, and they're like, yeah,

813
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: just take him whatever.

814
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he kills him, okay, and then he

815
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: becomes the receivers coach later then they fire him.

816
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: I know, Number eleven, Jalen Phillips, Dolphins outside that mocker now,

817
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: No T Higgins, No.

818
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: To expense, you can't afford T Higgins. Stop. Number thirteen.

819
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, No, Kirk Cousins no, uh fifteen, Denzel Ward

820
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: Corner No, We're good.

821
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: Number sixteen Titus Howard offensive tackle Texans. Now, remember this

822
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: is done by Greg Rosenthal, NFL Daily Podcast twenty three

823
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 2: Intriguing and Realistic Trade Targets, and he lists Titus Howard

824
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: at numbers.

825
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: So the question changes to would you do it? Would

826
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: you do it? What are you getting? Yeah? I know

827
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: that's that's the question. What do you get me the

828
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: other day? What do you Because look a year ago,

829
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Blake Fisher was not a glint in our eye, right

830
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: and now he's here and you're thinking Blake Fisher can

831
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: play right tackle for you, and Titus could be the guard.

832
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: That's how we could go into twenty twenty five. In fact,

833
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: if you had to ask me more likely to happen

834
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: that or not? I would say that those three guys

835
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: in those spots, and I guess juice back at center

836
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: and you get a guard, a shack whatever. You know,

837
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: you have a lot of things to talk about in

838
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: the interior in general, but you'd figure Blake and Titus

839
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: in the spots where they finished. But now, if you're

840
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: throwing that at me, it's something I got to look

841
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: at anyway. You know, if I'm getting something really good

842
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: in return, because maybe I can draft a guy to

843
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: take his place.

844
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: I think Titus had guard Blake at tackle is I'm

845
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: not going to ever tell you it's a virtual lock.

846
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: But that would be the way I'd want it. Unless

847
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: they make a move. Larry's going to be back at

848
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: left tack. Well, people talk about could you trade Look,

849
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Laramie's going to be your left tackle.

850
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: He's one of the best in the league. Anyway. That's

851
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: it for this segment. We gotta fly, but I want

852
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: to revisit this on Monday. And Monday is a holiday

853
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, but not for everybody, but

854
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: certainly not for us. And this program will have a

855
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: fresh one for you on Monday. And coming up, Dimiko

856
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Ryans we ask him those questions at the ends of

857
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: shows where we kind of kick it around a little bit,

858
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: some off the field stuff. How did they finish up

859
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: in some of the shows. We'll have that for you,

860
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: among other things next here on Texans All Access on

861
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: the way out here on Texans Radio tonight before a

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Speaker 1: big weekend. They're all big, aren't they. But it's a

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Speaker 1: President's Day weekend, so many of you have the day

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Speaker 1: off on Monday. We'll be on full show. Like I

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Speaker 1: said before the break, now before we get to some

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Speaker 1: Dimiko Ryan's stuff, QUB Brown is done as a color commentator.

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Speaker 1: A lot of tragedy in his life, and he's in

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Speaker 1: his nineties now and always brought it at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Hub Brown, even though it's basketball, I know this is

870
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Speaker 1: a football show, is my favorite TV color commentator ever

871
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Speaker 1: in any sport. So good, so good in the eighties

872
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Speaker 1: when the NBA was just in its golden age of

873
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Speaker 1: television eighties and nineties, I guess. Of course, the Rockets

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Speaker 1: won their titles in the nineties. There was just something

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Speaker 1: different about the league in those decades as opposed to today.

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Speaker 1: I still watch, though I'm not one of these people

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Speaker 1: I watched the NBA. I watch college basketball. I love hoops,

878
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Speaker 1: but football is the best sport to watch on television.

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00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But anyway, QB, congratulations on

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Speaker 1: a great a great career as a color commentator. Of course,

881
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Speaker 1: longtime head coach formerly with the Knicks, Bernard King, he

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Speaker 1: coached him back in the day. Man, some of you

883
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Speaker 1: seasoned listeners are nodding right now, saying, yeah, I remember that,

884
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Speaker 1: but that means world right, No, we're seasoned. I'm gonna

885
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Speaker 1: stick with that. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: During our football season, we have the Demico Ryans Program

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Speaker 1: Monday afternoons at five o'clock, and on the way out

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Speaker 1: of those shows, we'll do a little kicker question, that's

889
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Speaker 1: what we call them. We do them with Nick two,

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00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: but we asked Himiko an extra question at the end,

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Speaker 1: non football related usually, and here's a sampling of a

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Speaker 1: few of those that we had on this past season.

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Speaker 1: You've worked other places, but you've always had the connections here.

894
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Speaker 1: So how has Houston changed in your opinion over the

895
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: time when you first got here, you know, six oh,

896
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: what would you say about the evolution of this city?

897
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Is it pretty much the same as it changed? We've

898
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Speaker 1: had a lot of people under there.

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00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: It's like, is it even more traffic now? Definitely a

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Speaker 3: lot a lot more people. But you feel the I mean, you.

901
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: Feel the diversity here in Houston. Is this a true

902
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: melting pot of all different cultures and people coming together?

903
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: And that's that's the world and that's why I see

904
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: you get a sense of that here in Houston. And

905
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 4: it's uh, it's always been a name. I love Houston,

906
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: love the city, and love everything that the city is about.

907
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: That it's just a diversity of the people. I think

908
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: that's changed, you know, a lot since I've been here.

909
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: But it's also it's just a fun city, sports town

910
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: that hasn't changed. People are still very fired of and

911
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 4: passionate about the sports, about the teams around the city.

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Speaker 3: And you feel that excitement right from everyone.

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Speaker 1: No matter where you go, you.

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Speaker 4: Feel the excitement. Everybody loves sports, loves football. So it's

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Speaker 4: fun to be back in the South where football is key.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen years ago, it's not that long ago, coach, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not that long last Tuesday, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: What are some of your earliest pro football memories as

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00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: a little kid and what intrigued you about the pro

920
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: game as you were growing up in Alabama.

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00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: Wow? Oh, that's a good one.

922
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: You know, being in Alabama, right, it's all college football.

923
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Speaker 3: You're in Alabama all growing up. So for me, it's like,

924
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Speaker 3: it wasn't.

925
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Speaker 4: Much pro football for me growing up. It was Alabama

926
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Speaker 4: football on Saturdays.

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Speaker 3: If you call the NFL game. Yeah, okay, but one

928
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Speaker 3: you know, when it started to click for me, it

929
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Speaker 3: was of course, it was Dion Sanders.

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Speaker 1: Yep, right, it was Prime Time.

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Speaker 4: And just how because I grew up playing baseball, so

932
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Speaker 4: to see, like it really stuck for me when Prime

933
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Speaker 4: he played in the baseball game, and then he went

934
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Speaker 4: played in the football he.

935
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Speaker 3: Played in the football game right earlier that day.

936
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Speaker 4: Even then Whinn the Finnish played in the baseball game

937
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Speaker 4: the same day, and Bo Jackson being a baseball football player, Like,

938
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Speaker 4: that's what it kind of clicked for me. So I

939
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Speaker 4: started watching the Falcons with Prime, and then later the

940
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Speaker 4: high school days and started watching the Bucks.

941
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Speaker 3: So I grew fun.

942
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Speaker 4: So I ended up being a Bucks fan there for

943
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Speaker 4: a while. Tony Dundee in that group.

944
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Speaker 1: Derrick Brooks Brooks, Yes, yes, I watch there, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: All right, coach, I'm gonna give you a selection of

946
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Speaker 1: movies you can watch with the kids, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: pick one. Okay, here we go. Some are Pixar. I

948
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Speaker 1: don't think Minions is Pixar, but Minions is one of those, right,

949
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: So Minions up Inside Out Sing or any one of

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00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: the toy stories. What do you picking, coach? I'm picking

951
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Speaker 1: sing Singing. There's a sing too also, right, sing too?

952
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Speaker 3: Sing is a family favorite.

953
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Speaker 1: Of ours.

954
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: Everybody knows all the songs, really upbeat, fun movies always.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big sing fan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great because you know the songs. They know

957
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Speaker 1: the songs. They're old songs. It's good.

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Speaker 4: We can have a great time and everybody's jumping around

959
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: singing and dance.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that movie. Sing Sing's a good one.

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna pick a Pixar film, it's gonna be well,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's Pixar. It's one of

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Speaker 1: those animated movies though, those big time, big screen animated

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Speaker 1: movies that you watch with your kids, and they're so

966
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Speaker 1: smart because they put those songs in there that you

967
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Speaker 1: like that they can get to know. Kind of keeps

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Speaker 1: the old music alive. I liking it too. For those

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Speaker 1: who have seen Stranger Things on Netflix, you know, they

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00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: go that eighties soundtrack big and the kids got to

971
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Speaker 1: know the eighties songs. And there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: examples of this. I remember back in the day, this

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Speaker 1: is ten fifteen years ago, Guitar Hero was huge as

974
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Speaker 1: a video game. Is that when it was huge? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: they had all the classic rock songs on there, and

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Speaker 1: all the young people, young teens were getting to know

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Speaker 1: the classic rock songs that I love so much. I

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Speaker 1: love it when you can keep things alive like that.

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Speaker 1: Very cool stuff. Anyway, that's going to do it for

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Speaker 1: the show tonight, Monday Full Program. We had a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun tonight. This show will be available in podcast

982
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Speaker 1: forms soon enough. You can find it wherever you find

983
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Speaker 1: your podcasts, and also I recommend the Odyssey app because

984
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: it gets up there right away. On the Odyssey app

985
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: where you can find all your sports Radio six ten

986
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Speaker 1: stuff as well. So enjoy it there and enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Have a great time. Go Texans.