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This is not your average shows. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't Big steels 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: the streets. 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: Hello, We. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Gainst the Chronicles podcast, the production of 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: for my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: Subscribed Against the Chronicles, leave a five star rate the comment. 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: What's happening, what's happening? What's happening? 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 4: It's your boy, Big Steve with another episode of Against 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: the Chronicles podcast. My guy MC eight is out again 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: this week. He gonna probably be mad at me for 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: telling y'all this, but I want you all to pray 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: for my guy. He been having some problems with his 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: hernia and he just had the surgery. So keep him 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: up in prayers. I'm sorry, h you can cuss me 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: out when you get back, man, but you know, people 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: can't pray for you if they don't know what's wrong 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: with you. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 3: Mike g Yeah for sure. 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: And you know what this is like and is funny 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: because I know this is one of the guys that 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 4: Ate wanted to have on the show. He kept telling me, 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 4: you know, he don't say that much. He kept saying, 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: you know, eight talk he man. We need to get 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: that dude see Gut on the show. We need to 37 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: get him on the show. 38 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: And he is. His ass ain't even here. But we'll 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: get you back next time. You family. Yeah, so we 40 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: have you back again when he here. You know, we 41 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: got to see Gut in the house. 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: And it's kind of ironic that you want now, man, 43 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: because with all this stuff going on with Puffy yeah, 44 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: you know Pete Diddy right now and all this stuff 45 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: was big. 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: I always and I'm gonna cut to the chase. 47 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: I always, man, because I knew a lot of them 48 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: death rowcats, right know, a lot of them people from 49 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: death Row. I never really thought of Should being a 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: part of that man's assassination. I just didn't see the 51 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 4: logs again, it you feel what I'm saying. I don't know, 52 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: because I know Pop got knocked down, but I didn't 53 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: see the motive really and him going to go retaliate 54 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: against Big. It's Big didn't do nothing. Yeah, always thought, man, 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: this dudes that move the most quiet is the ones 56 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: that you got to watch, the ones that you never suspect. 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: Should kind of telegraph his moves, you feel what I mean, 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: he kind of telegraphed his moves. Should was more like 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 4: a bull and puff move more like a snake to me, 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: kind of slid it in the grass and just bite 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: you with an ankle or something. You know, Yeah, before 62 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 4: you know what happened. It was too late, man, And 63 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to dig too deeptail me if I'm overstepping, 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: I think, man, is the more I've been hearing lately. 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: You know, they always say it was done in the 66 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: dark coming to light. And I always thought that as 67 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: Big was gonna lead, because everybody kept telling me Big 68 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: was on his way out of there, that he had 69 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: just as much motive as anybody else, and I'm not 70 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: saying the man did it, but I think people needed 71 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: to take a strong look at him. 72 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: Man. 73 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: And you know, we're going on twenty some years they 74 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: haven't solved that man's murder. And I know you being 75 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: his road dog, they gotta piss you off some. 76 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, nigga mad because you know, I ain't 77 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: never find out, you know, exactly, you know, who was 78 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: behind anything. So that's that's really why I'm pissed off, 79 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Oh, more than anything, you 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And you know, and you know 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: as far as the how the laws concerned, you know, 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: I ain't. I don't really get into that. You know, 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: I'll lead that for mother and his family stuff like that, 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's immediate family. I don't 85 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: get into the laws and all that, so, you know, 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: but I just wanted to. I would have liked to know, 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So I couldn't, you know 88 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: what I mean? 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure? For sure, for sure, man. And it's 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: one of those things bro to where when it's a 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: loved one because y'all was real close, man, y'all had 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: a special relationship. You know what I mean, you had 93 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: a real special relationship. And I don't want to go 94 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: back into how did you meet him? And you know 95 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: all this and that, But y'all was hustling together. 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all we like before that because 97 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: I was you know, of course I'm older than that. 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: I'm three years older than be. So I was doing 99 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: I was outside before, you know what I'm saying. I 100 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: was old before him, So I was doing stuff he wasn't. 101 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: He was doing little stuff, you know what I mean 102 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: as a little as most low little kids that's growing 103 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: up in the city, they'll dibble and dabble, but somebody 104 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: might not fully embrace the criminal aspect. And I mean 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: that's like still not the store you got motherfuckers. That's 106 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: lawyers and police. Now when they was little, they grew 107 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: up in the hood, they stole out the store. 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: Exactly during that era. We're talking about the eighties man, 109 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: eighty seven, eighty eight, right. 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 111 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: During that time, I think everybody was stelling selling something. Dude, 112 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: if they wouldn't full slag flag selling crack. They was 113 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: dibbling and dabbling. They was getting developed. 114 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: Cool motherfuckers's lookouts, you know, because in New York, it's 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: different than California. 116 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is it might be because 117 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: you know it's it's the same, but it's different. 118 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all have more structure. It seemed like y'all had 119 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: red tops and black tops and all this stuff. 120 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: That was only to distinguish my ship from that lother 121 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: nigga shit. 122 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Because just like La, it 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: was a lot of coke in New York, you know 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like there was a lot of coke, 125 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: so you know, anybody had coke. 126 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like that out here too. Everybody had it. 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: But some people had that that that pure. Yes, they 128 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: had to blow up. 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was the same thing 130 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: in New York. 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: It was like somebody had to cook up the bull 132 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: said that because as a young nigga, I was that 133 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: little nigga. 134 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: We was the little niggas that was going uptown and 135 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: getting the. 136 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: Bullshit from Poppy not knowing what we're getting because we 137 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: don't know the game yet, so we getting what they 138 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: give us coming down, sucking up the block, you know 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 140 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Having the old niggas mad at us. 141 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah for real, and you know the thing he was 142 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: back then, you could really get like everybody liked to 143 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: have this image of the smoker's just being a little 144 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: frail of. 145 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: Just oh nah. You know, dude, I knew some smokers 146 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: to have hands. You had to worry about everybody. You 147 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: got to worry about the smoker, the jack boy, holies. Yeah, 148 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: whoever is hustling and don't like you, your competition, So 149 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: you gotta worry about numerous motherfuckers because the fiend will 150 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: rob you. Like I had a fiend down my way 151 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: named von m Big, like literally Debo, they swoll nigga 152 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: that was beating niggas up and taking a crack. 153 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: Literally. 154 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: We had a couple of those. Yeah, so you know, 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: and you know my man, my man uncle, my kody 156 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: uncle was one of them dudes. He was getting the 157 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: hog and he was knocking niggas out two blow tie, 158 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So so he just gave 159 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: him something when he came around the way up like, 160 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: motherfucker's better you know what I'm saying, Well, not me, 161 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: that's my man uncle. And then you know we was 162 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: I was hustling in a different area than him. 163 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: We was on one side the way. Yeah, we was 165 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: on different little little lanes, but we know him for doing. 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: That down that way. 167 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, And you know, thinking about that era, man, 168 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: if you sold the dudes, I remember the first I 169 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: started off with a little fifty piece right again. You know, 170 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: the homie took me to the Mexican Homy and I 171 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: got my little stuff. So I'm about the cutting it up, man, 172 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: And I started getting people coming back like hey, man, 173 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: like it's a problem. You feel what I'm saying. The 174 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: first one that came out was like, man, gone with 175 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: that bullshit, you know what I'm saying. But this dude 176 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: that sold me some blow up cast Lily was putting 177 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: that shit in they pipe and that shit was just 178 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 4: fizzling out right, So you could definitely get hurt. I 179 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: had a dude pull a twenty two out on me 180 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: man behind that, and I was like, no, you could 181 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: get me my bread back. You're doing bad business. And 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: you know that was my first induction of that stuff, man, 183 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: So you could definitely get hurt. So you had Big 184 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: out there doing it because from what I see, I 185 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: didn't know. I didn't know Big personally. From what I understand, 186 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: he was a school dude at first. 187 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but all of them, like all of 188 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: us were like I don't get it twisted, Like I 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: made good grades up to the ninth grade, Like damn, 190 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: this straight a's up to the ninth dude. 191 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: I was. 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 3: I was an athlete, and I'm the only boy, and 193 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm the baby, so I got to look out for myself, 194 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 195 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: So I'm getting in more fights. 196 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: So the more fights I'm getting into, I'm kind of 197 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: getting cool with street dudes because these are biggas I'm 198 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: getting their fights with, you know what I'm saying. So 199 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: next thing you know I'm doing, I'm doing my one. 200 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 3: And this is started in Mississippi when I because I 201 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: came back to New York for Mississippi. 202 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Go to Mississippi when I was five, and I came 203 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: back when I was fifteen. 204 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you came back, and you know what I 205 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: think people look at Mississippi is just this rural area. Mississippi. 206 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: Got a lot of stuff going on down there. 207 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: Bro. When I was down there, it was super rule, 208 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But I was like, I said, 209 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: I'll be fifty five next week. So when I was 210 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: down there was just the early seventies, you know what 211 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying, to the early eighties. I came back to 212 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: New York when the hip hop was, when they had 213 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: grand Master Flash and them niggas, it was starting to 214 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: take his form. 215 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 216 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, the shit started with me from Mississippi, from 217 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 3: just being out of place, Like, hey, where I was, 218 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: where I moved, I was out of place. 219 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm a little nigga with 220 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: an African name. 221 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying from New York, and motherfuckers 222 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: is like that's the only thing I was holding on to. 223 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: I'm from New York, So I'm getting into it constantly. 224 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm fighting all the time 225 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: down there. You know what I'm saying. But I was 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: an athlete too, so you know, motherfuckers took on to 227 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: me too. Well, what's works you play? Shit? 228 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I played I played it all baseball, football, basketball, ran track. 229 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I played football and I ran track, believe it 230 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 4: or not. I ran one hundred meters man and I 231 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: threw the shot put because I had wheels back in 232 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 4: the day. 233 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: I was you know, I can't do ship now. 234 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: But back, yeah, I understanding. I can't do ship now. 235 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: I probably was a better football player, but I love basketball. 236 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 237 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: That's usually happened. 238 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I played running back and and slot. 239 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh you look like a slot. But I only played 240 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: I only got to play one year organized ball, damn South, 241 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: and then I came right back to New York. And 242 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 3: then when I came back to New York, it's not 243 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: really no football fields in New York. 244 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: The niggas that go play football all the time. Mm hmm. 245 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: Man basketball court, So New York seems like it's more 246 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: of a basketball Yeah. 247 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: Basketball, that's why. Yeah, that's why you don't. 248 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: You rarely hear dudes coming out of New York that 249 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: played football unless they was from Long Hour. 250 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Or upstate. You know what I'm saying. But really from 251 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: the city, ain't that many. 252 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: That's crazy. So Long I do had some ball players, Yeah, 253 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 3: you had because the Cowboys is my team. So you 254 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: had the kid, damn light skinned kid. This is like 255 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: oh seven o eight, He played wide out. I can't 256 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: remember his name. Yeah, because I know New York. He 257 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: has had some football players. I think he played for 258 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: a Hostra or some shit like that. There's a light 259 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: skinned dude who played. He was our wide out in 260 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: old seven o eight. He was mean too, but he 261 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: had them all fucking thigh problems. He had them Hamstrong. 262 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: To think who he was talking about, I don't remember, 263 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: but I know definitely New York had some football players. 264 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: It wasn't a whole bunch of them, but come out 265 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: there with some dogs. Yeah yeah, yeah, you had something 266 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: like the dudes that came out was good players. But 267 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 3: Jersey got all of them off, you know, Jersey and 268 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: football stack Jersey. 269 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 4: Some players that came in. Melcoln Fitzpatrick came from out 270 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: of Jersey. And because my son in high school he 271 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: played for Saint John Biscle, So we used to go 272 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: out there and play the big private school out there, 273 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 4: and they for sure had some balls, because when he 274 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: started going his recruiting trips, he would see a lot 275 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: of the dudes he played against out there and they 276 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 4: would be talking. 277 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, what's his name he played? Because Michigan 278 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: is my is my college team. He played safety in Michigan. Oh, 279 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: he was a bad motherfucker. He from Jersey. Bad motherfucker, 280 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: he from Jersey. Yeah, Michigan just smacked up on my 281 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 3: son's team this weekend. USC my son went to SC 282 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: and Michigan. They got the best and we almost came back, 283 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: but it was too late and we were too late. 284 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: So y'all snuck one end on. 285 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: Us SO championship last year. 286 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, man, so you you went from the sports 287 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: man to the streets. Was that just like a quick transition. 288 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 3: Now, because I still was playing sports, like I'll be 289 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: hustling and just go up the block to the park 290 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: and play ball, crack in my pocket and all that 291 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: with tims on and everything, so that she was in 292 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: just in my like I'm playing ball wherever whenever, it 293 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: seems like everybody else. That's one of the reasons I 294 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: started throwing bricks at the penitentiary because then in order 295 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: for you to get in tournaments in New York, for 296 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: you to playing to him, you had to pay the 297 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: blow feet mm hmm, pay for the jersey or the 298 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: T shirt. You know what I'm saying, some joints, you 299 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: gotta pay for the whole uniform or whatever. I'm you know, 300 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to Midtown digging pockets for that. Mm hm. 301 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Well if I don't know, is that's like forceful pickpocket. 302 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 303 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: It's like you're not you're not, you're not sneaking it 304 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: out and you're just digging your hand in there and 305 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: somebody's pockets off. 306 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 307 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: That's crazy, man. You know what New York is? Why 308 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: you think they do that out there? In New York? 309 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: They don't mess with that out here. You don't hear 310 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: about dudes getting their pockets picked out here. 311 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: Now. 312 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: You hear about dudes getting jack and getting their pockets 313 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: ripped off all the time, right, But as far as 314 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: a dude just coming on some sneak stuff and just 315 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: going in your pocket. 316 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: Man, probably because y'all don't have the crowds. 317 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing everybody out here travel a little walking 318 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: out there. I went to I went to Pass with 319 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: my pops. I'm like fifteen. I got pickpocket in Paris. 320 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: You got pickpocke in Paris? 321 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went out there with my pops because my 322 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: pops is a jazz musician. 323 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. You know he was rock right, 324 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: he was. 325 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: He was in a band called sun Rock. 326 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 327 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: So when we went out there, I went out there. 328 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: The niggas had me working or whatever. 329 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: I got. I went out by myself and got pickpocket 330 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: my nigga and then playing video games. I didn't even know. Yeah, 331 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: they clicked me for three hundred, three hundred French, no 332 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: French francs. They was Franks at the time, because this 333 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: is eighty four eighty five. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had 334 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: made the open version over. They banged me. Yeah, they 335 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: banged me four hundred dollars because that was that was 336 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: one hundred, that was one hundred US four hundred hours. 337 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: I was mad as a motherfucker man. 338 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: So let me ask you this because I feel like 339 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: I would feel the mother for going up my pockets. 340 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: You gotta be just a different type of cat to 341 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: be all doing ship like that. 342 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what they do is the bump. 343 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: So if you were if you into a video game 344 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: like me at fifteen years old, not really paying no 345 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: attention and not thinking, thinking it can't happen to me, 346 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: because you know I come from New York, that ship 347 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: ain't mean nothing, Niggas. I had some slicks. I had 348 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: some slacks on, you know what I mean. I had 349 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: on the joints with the side pockets, not the not 350 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: not Jean not Jean pockets. You know what I mean. 351 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: So he just put his finger in there and slid 352 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: that ship out. 353 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: Is that right? 354 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: Man? 355 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 4: I would like to fill I bets you on been 356 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: some ass whoopings out there. Somebody get caught going to 357 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: somebody's pocket. Oh hell yeah, because I know dudes get caught, 358 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 4: you know, especially if motherfucker bumping to you like hey, 359 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: I know what you're doing. 360 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, most of the time they not gonna try 361 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: no no, no black people. 362 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: Joscelyn's is trying to get because that's what they call 363 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: it in up our way, they call it joscelyn You 364 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 365 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: Joscelyn's is going for your opinions for the most part. 366 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: Is that right? They just got you slipping that day 367 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: when you look like you were fifteen, So they knew 368 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: I was a foreigner. You know what I'm saying. The 369 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: motherfucker's speaking French all about me. They probably was talking 370 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: to me. I ain't know what I was day, I 371 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: ain't know what they were they were speaking to me, 372 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's crazy. 373 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: So I'm pretty sure because New York is California and 374 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: New York both a scammers states them scammers is everywhere. 375 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: He was messing with them credit cards and everything. So 376 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure now, man, because not too many people 377 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 4: carry cash on them no more. Everybody got their cards 378 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: on them. I'm pretty sure they come up and I'm 379 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: pretty sure that's that's how a lot of people getting 380 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: their numbers. 381 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, because you. 382 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: Get a credit card. That's how you can sell that motherfucker. 383 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: But motherfucker's is like no, see, I don't be wanting 384 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: to give up motherfuckers a game, but but you know, motherfuckers. 385 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: But by now, everybody know motherfucker's a cop a bunch 386 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: of cars, from a from from a dude. 387 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: That's how they go out. 388 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: Man. It's a lot of people. 389 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Man. 390 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: That's a bigion dollar business man, big and dellar. Listen. 391 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: I think it ain't as big as the true drug trade, man, 392 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: but that's a big big It's a lot of money 393 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: being made over there. 394 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: It's bigger than it than our drug trade. I think 395 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: it's our drug trade, like just for us, for black 396 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: people in America, it's bigger than our drug trade. You 397 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Because you know, we we ultimately 398 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: got to deal with somebody else. We ain't producing that shit. 399 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yes, for real money that motherfucker. 400 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: Is doing off the scamming is more than the scale 401 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: than you know what I'm saying. Of course, not the 402 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: drug game and entirely you know. 403 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. But like with our section, what we're doing. 404 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm pretty sure you know what, because 405 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: you got you might have you might have probably about 406 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: ten little young scammers that then made more than more 407 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: than some of the biggest drug dealers. That a nigga 408 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: that met in the years. Oh man, your time in 409 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: a short period of time and blow it. 410 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's some kids out here. Mahammie was telling 411 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 4: me about his son, right. His son used to be 412 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 4: in there. He got cracked though. Them dudes was out 413 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: there drafting Porsches, and they had like an apartment that 414 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: was just full of computers, laptops and stuff. They had 415 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: nothing but the guns and computers up in that motherfucker. 416 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: And he said that's they would do all day. 417 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: Listen, I got a little homie that used to drive around. 418 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: All he used to do was drop around with the laptop. 419 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: He got the laptop. He's making cars. 420 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm Sayings was on it and just 421 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: was on them. 422 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: You know what's crazy though, I got got a couple 423 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: of times, right. You know, people get a hold of 424 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 4: your credit card number and I always catch it real quick, 425 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: right because I got to where I get the text alerts. 426 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: Somebody used my card and I called a music. Hey, 427 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: that's not me. I'm at the house. I'm not at 428 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: Walmart right now, that's not me. You know that's so 429 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: take that off my shit, right, But they got a 430 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: thing that's so cold now they don't got my wife 431 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: a couple of times, man, where they had call you 432 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: and say, hey, I'm calling from such and such. We 433 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: found a breach in your account. 434 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: We need this number. 435 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: And that's them getting access to your things. So you 436 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: actually giving them the cold to go on your thing. 437 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: And I just told my wife, now, when the motherfucker 438 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: call you, hang up and call them back. 439 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: Just don't do it. 440 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: She had got got twice and I said, they just 441 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: keep catching your ass me. I'm suspicious of every damn body. 442 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you my father in law they 443 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: had to wait that where they was busting his social 444 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: Security checks. Dog, he was getting this shit before the 445 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: motherfucking got the you know they got the wreck deposit 446 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: on that shit. Not right, they would snatch this shit. 447 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 4: His ship would come in at twelve o'clock twelve or one, 448 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: they would make a withdrawal and he had his car 449 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 4: with him. I don't know how they was doing that, bro, 450 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: but I think some of them be inside plugs. 451 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, then be inside things. Bro, that's somebody. That's somebody 452 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: from the from the post office. Give them people them numbers. 453 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: So you need is the numbers. Yeah, all you need 454 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: is a number. And I'm gonna tell you another thing 455 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: that's real scandless to what they doing out here. Bro. 456 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: If you go to the gas station and you use 457 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: your ATM and them seven elevens when you put your 458 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: thing in there, they've been putting little devices on the 459 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: motherfuckers that were you in your car. Because they got 460 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 4: me like that before. I just used them and I 461 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: figured it out because I lived in a city called Downy, right, 462 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: So I had the bank that called me and they 463 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: said from the fraud department. I always tell HIM'M gonna 464 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: call you back because I don't be believe in it. 465 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: Right. 466 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: A motherfucker had spent eight hundred dollars at Best Buy. 467 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 4: They had want. They spent another two hundred dollars at 468 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: Whole Foods or whatever, and I said, damn, they gave 469 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: my money back instantly, right, but they knew kind of 470 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 4: like it was something was going on with it, right, 471 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I didn't never get a 472 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: text message about it, because usually I get an alert, 473 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: but I didn't get no alerts about this and the 474 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: stuff they tried to get up at the best Buy, 475 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 4: they had to come back and pick it up. They 476 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: never came back because I went up there. I said, 477 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: you know what, hold the back because I wanted to 478 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 4: try to see who go come up in this motherfucker. 479 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: Because I got a thing telling That's how I found out. 480 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 4: I got a thing, I got the phone call, and 481 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: then the next day I got a thing telling me 482 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: that my picket was ready that Best Buy. And I 483 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: really wish I could have caught that motherfucker dog. 484 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, But. 485 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 4: That's where they got her from. They got her from 486 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: the seven to eleven. So you bumping the big now 487 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: with Big Ryano when you first started kicking it with him. 488 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I met Big. I met Big through my 489 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: baby mother cousin. Because it's the first dude because I 490 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: had just moved on the block. So he the first 491 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: dude around my age that introduced itself to me. You 492 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. His name was Eric. 493 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Eric used to DJ in his crib. You know what 494 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 495 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: He used to have for some reason, I don't, I know, 496 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: young niggas to be looking at us old niggas is like, Yo, 497 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: why would y'all be just sitting in the crib listening 498 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: to the records, you know what I mean. But that's 499 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: what we did. Yeah, we did because a lot of 500 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: the ship we're hearing it's new. Motherfucker might just get 501 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: a new joint, and he coming to the crib. He 502 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: wanted to play it, you know what I'm saying. He 503 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: might have heard it on the radio. They was able 504 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: to buy a single and motherfucker play it. But he 505 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: scratched and DJ and all that shit. So Beg used 506 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: to come upstairs and rap, you know what I'm saying. 507 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: So that's how that's how I first met Big, and 508 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: I knew Big rap was back then. Yeah, but you 509 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: always just like first came. When I first came up, 510 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: I was like fifteen, so Big was like twelve and Ryman. Yeah, 511 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, is like when I first 512 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: met him, I wasn't fifteen him. I was like sixteen, 513 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: so Big was like thirteen. But Big was a big thirteen, 514 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So when he came to 515 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: the Crip, I'm thinking here around our age, you know 516 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So he do this shit, I'm like, damn, 517 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: you know. 518 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Because you got to remember hip hop 519 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: is new too. 520 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he just seemed like he just had a 521 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: natural affinity for it, because even you saw the way 522 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: because I produced the stuff not right, and he had 523 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: an affinity for words. The way he phrased this stuff 524 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: was like really incredible. 525 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: And that that comes from like aus upbringing his mother 526 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: as a teacher too, you know what I'm saying. 527 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: So he might hear words like he like, he'll hear 528 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: words from anywhere. He man, man, what that means? Boom, 529 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: He's going to find out. He's trying to figure out 530 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: a way to use it. 531 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: But I was the same way, like we would try 532 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: to because it was like in our era, you should 533 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: like it was cool when you know a word, motherfucker 534 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 3: didn't know and you could fit it in the sentence 535 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: and then make it. 536 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: And that's real part of your game, you know what 537 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 538 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: That's part of your game talking to a broad or 539 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: even just talking to an older person, you know what 540 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Know, yeah, yeah, I got some I got 541 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: some sense, you know what I mean. Everybody want to 542 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: have a large vocabulary. So you know, that's just that 543 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: was just his thing, you know what I'm saying. And 544 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: then you know, we cracked jokes. We watch cartoons all 545 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: all the time, so were picking up everything that we're 546 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: seeing from TV and cartoons and all type of shit. 547 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: And he used that shit just perfectly. 548 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: And Big seemed like he's a joser. Like I said, 549 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: I didn't know Big personally, but I've seen him one time. 550 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 4: Prince had a club like here called Grand Slam. And 551 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 4: this is like when Juicy was first making his way out. 552 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: I guess he was on a little promo run or whatever. 553 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: He was in the Princeville Grand Slam and I was 554 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: tripping on how tall he was there started playing the 555 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: Juicy Swing the radio a lot, and I guess so 556 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 4: I said, oh, that's the Biggie smallss cat, right, And 557 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: I'm a tall dude. I'm six four and a half, right, 558 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: and he was looking me out of the eye and 559 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 4: I said, damn, this dude is he's bigger than what you. 560 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: Think he is. 561 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: He was a big dude, Yeah, baby, six free, Yeah. 562 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: He was a big cat. 563 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 4: Like I said, he was looking me in the eye 564 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, he a big cat. 565 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: But he seemed like he had a real friendly demeanor 566 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: because he was joking. 567 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 568 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: I mean, like big, it took a lot for Big 569 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: to get mad. Well, it was the opposite with me, 570 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: Like he ain't taking nothing for me to get mad. 571 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: So that's how that's how I bomb was really got 572 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: tight because I was able to like not push him, 573 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 3: but let him know when like it's time for you, like, nah, 574 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: this nigga going too far, so you need to sock 575 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: him or some shit like that, you know what I mean. 576 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: And then the dude that's telling me, oh, it ain't 577 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: that serious, yo, chill, you know what I mean? 578 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: That's how you know what I'm saying. 579 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And let me ask you this. So he knee 580 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: deep in the rap game and you with him the 581 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: whole time, like you kind of there with him the 582 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: whole time. 583 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: Right, well, the time when he got on, I was 584 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: in prison. 585 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so you in jail. That's what I'm trying to establish, 586 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: you in jail. When so when you got out, he 587 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: was fully flagged on. 588 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: He was he was the man. 589 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: I can't I can't home. December fifth, h No, December seven, 590 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: ninety five. Mm hmm. 591 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: Beg was the man. 592 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: So he cracking at that time. He like the mixtapes 593 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: and everything else. 594 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Nigga. I came out. 595 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: I came out the bus to Porter Thority, because when 596 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: you come from upstate, the bus stops at Porter Thoron 597 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: on forty second Street. 598 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: M Now Puff Studio is two blocks away. Porter Thority 599 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: is on forty second and eighth Avenue. 600 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: MH. 601 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Daddy's house was. 602 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: On forty fourth between eighth and ninth. So when I'm 603 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: coming out, when I'm coming out the train stage just 604 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: so happened, Big is on his way to the studio, 605 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: pulls up in the street, get out the street. 606 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: Traffic stop, mind you. He stopped in the green light. 607 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: And stood going crazy, got out the car stopped, got 608 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: out the car and traffic stop. 609 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: For about probably for about thirty seconds. Track of the stop. 610 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 4: And everybody just looking at him and all, huh, he 611 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: the man. Now you just come up the bus in prison, 612 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: you bump into him. He probably fucked his head up. 613 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: Or did he know you was coming home? 614 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: No, he knew I was coming home because like what 615 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: happened was they was on the road when I made 616 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: my parole my second parole board. I hit that at 617 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: my first parole board. So you get released between a 618 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: week and two weeks after your second parole board. Like 619 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: anytime you go after your first parole board, you getting released. 620 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: The first parole board, you get released within sixty days, 621 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But anything after that you 622 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: release a week to two weeks. So what happened. I 623 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: got released within a week. I couldn't get no clothes. 624 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: They couldn't send me no clothes, so I had the 625 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: jail outfit. Damn. 626 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: So you come home with your I'm looking straight up. 627 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking dusty niggas under the bus. 628 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: It's a couple of dudes coming from up coming home 629 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: from up North, the same as me. 630 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: They looking at me like, I'm like, I'm a crackheaded something. 631 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: Niggause you still got your jail ship on. They wearing 632 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: jail out There is a orange. No, damn, they don't 633 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: like you don't go you don't go home in the 634 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: in the uniform. They give you some some cheap jeans 635 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: called big Yanks. They give you some big yank jeans, 636 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: tight ass sweatshirt, and they give you a tight ass 637 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: khaki jacket. Oh so you just come home looking like 638 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: a convict for real? Did you have some glasses on? 639 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Nah? 640 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: Nah, but you used to come home they con They 641 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: got some big glasses on. No, I ain't had no 642 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: glasses no, but yeah, so them niggas is like all this. 643 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: When he pulled up, fuck them niggas up. 644 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: They probably fucked you up too, because the last time 645 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: you've seen him, he was just regular Chris and he 646 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: get out. No, he's notorious. 647 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: B I g Well like he been like big, got 648 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: the name Big from hustling. You know what I'm saying. 649 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: It was a smoker down our way. You know what 650 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: I mean that he put in the wrong. She used 651 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: to always beg bag. So everybody else just started calling 652 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: him big. Is that right? 653 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 654 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: Like she would be calling him and she got a 655 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: got She got a distinctive voice. You know that some 656 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: females have kind of like a whiny voice. Yeah, but 657 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: she got that New York actor. You know what I'm saying, 658 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: So she like bag bag, you know what I'm saying. 659 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: So it's drawing the dragon name out and that's just 660 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: stuck from since probably eighty nine. So he said, I'm 661 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: gonna be Biggie. Then yeah, then see another another dude, 662 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: damn my way rest in peace. 663 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: A ge homie name Jimmy Dean. You do what your 664 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: name is? Biggy's smalls. 665 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: From from there so cause big like like I said, 666 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: like you like you alluded to. We cracked jokes all day. 667 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: He cracked jokes. 668 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't gonna fuck if you was the toughest nigga 669 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Nigga, we getting on. We on your line. 670 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: We cracking jokes. 671 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: If you wear anything fucked up, you look bad. Nigga, 672 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: you gotta missing tooth. We on your line, and like 673 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: being being that. We cracked jokes like we used to, 674 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: getting a lot of shit. But you know, I'm gone, 675 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: don't worry about it, nigga. We gonna get on this 676 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: nigga he got anything to say, I got it. 677 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this big head jokes jokes because 678 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: he cut the motherfucker up. 679 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all we did all day, bro, literally like 680 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: us like all all like you see Junior Mafia. 681 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: That's all our little homies. 682 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: It's all our little niggas from when they were twelve 683 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: thirteen coming to ask us, Yo, let me get two dollars, 684 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: let me get five dollars. Oh so seasons around back 685 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: then too. Yeah, they from our Listen, all of them 686 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: niggas is from one block and the next block. They 687 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: all right, I'm from Saint James between Gates and Green. 688 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: Big is on Saint James between Gates and four. He 689 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: do me a favorite. 690 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: Hold on real quick, move to your right a little bit, 691 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: so you being friend a little bit? Yeah, everything, They're 692 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: gonna eat my ass up in the comics, Like why 693 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: you have him doing that? 694 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, interruption, Yeah, Beg is on Saint James between Gates 695 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: and full Sees is on Saint James between Fulton and 696 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 3: Leffids and three more bugs, Knee, Nino Brown and capone 697 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: Is all cousins live on Saint James between Atlantic and Leftards. 698 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: Then O but the only the only people. Kim lived 699 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 3: on Saint James between Lafayette and the cap Yeah, you know, 700 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: speaking of little kim Man. She lived on the sat 701 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: in the same like we lived. Literally Damnar on the 702 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: same block. Only two people, there's three people. It's one 703 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: person Claps from Flatbush. He's from the Flatbus section. And 704 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: the snakes lost Andy and and and and and and 705 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: and and and. 706 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Damns my little nigga name. 707 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: And Blake. 708 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: Both of them lived on the next block with his cambridge. 709 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 3: So every all of them all, that's all our little. 710 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: Niggas, including other little dudes that just happened to rap. 711 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: And Doggie Damonds was around there two shots at the. 712 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: Listen. 713 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: Doggie Diamonds is from Waverley. You know what I'm saying. 714 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 3: Like my my partner Tad is his cousin. Yeah, yeah, 715 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 716 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: My partner in my podcast og Wisdom is his cousin. 717 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He told me. That's what 718 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: I mean. You have linked up? Yeah, you have linked up. 719 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 720 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: Everybody is right there, literally right there in our blocks 721 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: is real small. That's why so got short. We got 722 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: short blocks. You know what I'm saying, because when like 723 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 3: we in like little packed in little area, y'all don't 724 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: have the cold of sacks like, we got all here, 725 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: y'alls in the Brownstone. 726 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see, we got a lot of Brownstones right there. 727 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: Everybody on their stoops and stuff. 728 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 4: So big is so big? Is cracking right now? And 729 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: you started running from him that point? Was you with 730 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 4: him when he met Tupac? 731 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: Nah? 732 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 4: I was in prison, So you was in prison when 733 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 4: he met Park And when you get out, they at peace, 734 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 4: They kind of cool and stuff like that. 735 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: Did you ever get to meet you? When I get 736 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: out of it? Was they going toward this time? 737 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: When I get out? It's cracking? 738 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cracking. Pot came home right before me. I 739 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: think Pot came home October November of Yeah. 740 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: I remember you know what man times on flu so fast. 741 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking like that, and I'm like, oh, ship, it 742 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 4: was cracking. It was full fledged cracking at that time, 743 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 4: ninety five. So they got all this stuff going on, right, 744 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: And I know, Pocket not to cut you off. 745 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: What's crazy? 746 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: When I was up north, I had called bed crib 747 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 3: one time and Pop was dead. So by the time 748 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: all this ship went down, I was like, damn. I'm like, 749 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: how'd you beefing with bed boy? And you've been at 750 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: the crib you know what I mean. When he was tight, 751 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: wasn't they Yeah, like I said, he came to the 752 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: crib like it's uh, you know it's that's a that's 753 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: a different thing when you invite somebody, Yeah for really, 754 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: you know, man come to your house. Yeah, yeah, you 755 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That's from at least from our ever. 756 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how these how the young. 757 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: Dude man, they kind of move a little different now. 758 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 4: But you lit a man over your house, that's like 759 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 4: he family at that point. 760 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 3: Just anybody come to my care, Let anybody come into crib, 761 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then you got to 762 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 3: think about it before before Big happened to rap, we 763 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: so crap. So definitely, nobody's not coming to the crib 764 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: like that. Like anybody ain't coming to the crib. You 765 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying, because we like because I like, well, 766 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 3: my mother passed away to end the eighty eight Decemmer 767 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: eighty eight. By February we are eighty nine. I was 768 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: staying at Big Crib, you know what I'm saying. I 769 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: stayed there until I got locked up in ninety That's crazy. 770 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 3: So y'all was Hill a closer that. 771 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 772 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 3: I literally lived in his crib, me and me and 773 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 3: then old stars like oh didn't live there, but he 774 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 3: started being. 775 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: There so much night after night that he was wrapped 776 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: basically standing. 777 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: Basically living over there. So y'all all kicking it together, 778 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 4: run together every day, man, and the death ro shit 779 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 4: is cracking off, right, y'all have any runnings with them? 780 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: That was with Big with Did y'all ever had a 781 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 4: running in with them? 782 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: We had to run in at the soul train of 783 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: warks that would get That's the only one. I mean. 784 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: I was looking for them when at the MTV Awards 785 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 3: its Big had a party and they showed up at 786 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: the party before we got there. Hm, you know what 787 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So like I tore ass in the car 788 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: and tried to get there, but niggas was gone. Like 789 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: I said, I'm on bullshit. I'm gonna keep it, you 790 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. At the time, I was on bullshit, 791 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: be cause it's like I feel you on bullshit. I'm 792 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: on bullshit, yeah for sure, because I heard about you 793 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: pulling the banger out on shit. Yeah. 794 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Then I didn't actually pull it out. I was trying 795 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: to slide it out because cousins like, all right, this 796 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: is what happened. We do the Soul Train awards. Big 797 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: do the Soul Train. 798 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: He get his, He gets his awards, I think for 799 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 3: Song of the Year or for One More Chance or so. 800 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: So he did the performance where he came out of elevator. 801 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: He did it so boom, he did that. Then he 802 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: got the award. Then we left because Big had a 803 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: show in North Carolina, so as we coming out and 804 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: the only reason sugaring them even we even had that 805 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: encounter because when we come out, Don Cornelius is coming 806 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: Big like, yo, why you don't want to do the 807 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: interview and blah bah. Big was like, bro, I got 808 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: somewhere to go, and you ain't want to have me 809 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: on your man show anyway, you know what I'm saying, 810 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: Like the Soul Train, like the real Soul Train, not 811 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: the ward show. 812 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: Was like, we've been on Soul Train. It's like you 813 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: stressed me. 814 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 3: So you know, while he's telling him that, that's when 815 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: that's when the hummer pull up, when the nigga were 816 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: on the west side' we can get the shit over 817 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: right here. And now. 818 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Sees because he's. 819 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: Had a drunk, a whole fucking bottle of Don Pete, 820 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: so he got the bottle of Tom p He PISSI 821 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: drunk fucking mo for your bitch y'all. 822 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: They going back and forth. He drunk. 823 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: It's me sees Unrivera and some big security dude. I 824 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: don't even remember her name. He'd had like a like 825 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: a weird voice to me because he was like, come on, daddy, 826 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 3: this is cool. And I'm like, YO, calls a nigga 827 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 3: daddy like yeah, for real, you know what I'm saying. 828 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 3: Real suspect right there. Yeah, So she'll get out the car. 829 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: He's like, I just want to talk. But like I 830 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: noticed this nigga's a big nigga. I'm like, Yo, this's 831 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 3: a big nigga. So I'm like this, I slides the burnout, 832 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 3: he peeps it. He like, oh, we got a strap boom. 833 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: He stopped because he's like pushing through some n o 834 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 3: I dudes because the n o I dudes is with 835 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 3: Don Carniggis. 836 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: When they had walked with Don Carniggius. 837 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: To talk to bed So, but he's like Shure was like, 838 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: y'all just want to talk, but he pushing through them. 839 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: Niggas like pushing through them, pushing through them like not 840 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 3: on no, Nah, I just want to talk. It's like 841 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 3: he want to pay and everything else. 842 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's saying it, and you know how a 843 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: dude got a smile on his face. But he smiling. 844 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he like, nah, I just want to I just 845 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 3: want to talk. I just want to talk. 846 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I slid to burnout and he peeked it. 847 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: But what we ain't know is I don't think nobody 848 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 3: knew it was like police like because we were in 849 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: the parking lot like two call rolls away, was walking them. 850 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: Niggas start coming, you know what I'm saying. That's when 851 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 3: we slid out, hopped into hopped in the limos. We 852 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: was going to the airport anyway, Biggs, y'all had to 853 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: show to do. Yeah, and so y'all went. 854 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 4: So that was the only that's all that ship that 855 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 4: was going back and forth is it really wasn't no 856 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 4: back and forth. It was Big never responded. Now I 857 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 4: heard that it's a record outter that Big Deer recorded response. 858 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: Is that true? Yeah? The diamonds on my neck, chrome 859 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: drop chop chilling on his like that song because it 860 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 3: was it was for Buster joints. It was buster Buster 861 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: had the joint. It's on I think one of them albums, 862 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 3: like one of them after he passed albums. I don't 863 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: I really don't follow him, you know what I mean, 864 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 3: But it was one of them. I don't even damn, 865 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 3: what's the I don't even know the names. 866 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: Of them ship. 867 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 4: Yeah you know what, man, once they start putting all 868 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 4: them albums together and putting Big on songs that he 869 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 4: probably never would have did in real life, I kind 870 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 4: of stopped messing, you know, it kind of got disingenuous 871 00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 4: to me. 872 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. That's why I 873 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: don't know the albums, cause it's like, you know what 874 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But yeah, he did that one song, but 875 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 3: perfect song, nigga like but Big like Big wasn't really 876 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: man at pop either. 877 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: He left all he did because he was like, Yo, 878 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 1: this nigga acting. 879 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: Bro. 880 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: It's like, man, bro, I know this snigger the snigger acting. 881 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: You're using this. This is a marketing tool. 882 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 3: Man. He ain't say marketing tool, but this is his 883 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 3: way to make his money. You know what I'm saying? 884 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 3: Big like man like, I can't be mad at this nigga. 885 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 3: He's even in even in interviews, he's like the nigga 886 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 3: still love me. He can't say he don't love me. 887 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 3: Every interview he did, he would always say that, yeah, 888 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: I guarantee you man. I don't think neither one of 889 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 3: them dudes or won't stiff to turn out the way 890 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 3: it did. No now me on the other hand, and 891 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: probably popping Gets on the other hand, felt away. 892 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I'm like, nigga, I want. 893 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 3: To do something too, not that you're riding for you 894 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 3: all folks, And and like once once I knew, I 895 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 3: knew it was real, the love big for like one day, 896 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 3: I'm pissed off. 897 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: I think this was the. 898 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 3: Two of America's most wonder I'm mad at him and Snoop. 899 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 3: I'm mad at Snoop and Snoop is like one of 900 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 3: my favorite artists. You know what I'm saying, the sjoint 901 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 3: where he got the he got big in front of 902 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: the pig and all that. 903 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm so tight. I'm like, yo, I want to see 904 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: these niggas. You know what I'm saying. M hmm. 905 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, this nigga pussy bah So Big like, 906 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: I ain't pussy. So I'm like, you know, I'm I'm 907 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 3: venting and you cutting off my vent while I'm venting 908 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: on this You a ride on something. You telling me 909 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: he ain't pussies like nigga let me he like, all right, 910 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 3: they ain't got nothing to do with what I'm saying 911 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: right now. You know what I'm saying. 912 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: So he's taking That's how I say. He's like, Yo, 913 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: he ain't no pussy. 914 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Say what you want, he 915 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: ain't pussy. I'm like my nigga defending the nigga that 916 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm mad at him for you. Yeah, I think like 917 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 3: that's when I knew I couldn't be mad at him 918 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 3: like that. 919 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: No more. 920 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you this. 921 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 4: We all know and I ain't the one for God 922 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 4: so man, But these are the questions that people gonna 923 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 4: be having, right. You know they said that Parking Faith 924 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 4: had the thing when she was married to Big Uh. 925 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 4: I was real cool with Big Sight. Big Site was 926 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 4: my road dog. You know, the rest in peace, Big Sight. 927 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 4: You know that ran with him out. No, that was 928 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: the homye right. He had told me, man, we was 929 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: only way to buy and he had told me that, 930 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 4: you know, he had saw faith in the hotel, right 931 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 4: in the hotel. 932 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: The big ever believed they that they did what they did. 933 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 934 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 3: Oh, you probably wouldn't trip him. 935 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: He was tripping. 936 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 3: I think put it like this, I think he was tripping, 937 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 3: but he wouldn't show, Like he wouldn't show. 938 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't show, you know what I'm saying. And like 939 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: we stayed in the crib m hm. 940 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: So you know what I mean. Like if it's like 941 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 3: I feel, I think he was tripping though, like he 942 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 3: felt bro Yeah, he felt a way. Like I can't 943 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 3: really jug because you know, I ain't in that nigga mind, 944 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: but I still think he felt the way by the 945 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 3: way he the way he carried it. 946 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: It was like he felt it, but it was like 947 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: a you know what I mean, Like he played it nonchalant, 948 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: but I don't think he was his nonchalant. 949 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 4: Mm hm, because I know, like you mentioned look Kim earlier, right, 950 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 4: look Kim when she when he came out to Junior Mafia, 951 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 4: that album sold a lot of copies real fast. I 952 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: think it was platinum, like in a month or something 953 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 4: like that. When they came out with to Get Money 954 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 4: joint and all that stuff. 955 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, the album when they album went go mm hmm, 956 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 3: the album went go hushing went platinum though, yeah, you 957 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 3: know what I so. So the Junior Mafia album and 958 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 3: Conspiracy album it was called Conspiracy, right, Yeah, that didn't 959 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 3: go platinum. 960 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: No, I think the sing I think the get Money 961 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: single went platinum. 962 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, is that good Money record was big And 963 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the MISSI players. 964 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 4: And that's because then was big records out here. Those 965 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 4: are big records. Those are real big records. Because I 966 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 4: remember out here, man, everybody was tripping off the line 967 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 4: that he robbed the reverend leave his pockets like Rabbity 968 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 4: ears that that line right there had motherfuckers like damn 969 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 4: the pastor you know, and those are huge records. So 970 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: he got this situation going on with Puffy. Puffy wouldn't 971 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 4: really let him participate in the project the way he 972 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 4: wanted to put it. 973 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 3: See, I was in prison, but because I came home, 974 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 3: they had they had just did to Get Money videos. 975 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: I missed that, you know what I mean? 976 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: So Conspiracy was out. But from the conversations I had 977 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 3: with Big, he was like it was rush and like 978 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 3: you said, pop dead interfear to a degree, I don't know, 979 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 3: like because I ain't know all the music, like and 980 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 3: you want you get to know the particulars of the business. Yeah, 981 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 3: I ain't know the particulars of the business on how 982 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 3: he could do, how he could block ship. 983 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: But he's like, Yo, this nigga block this. You know 984 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He ain't let me do this. 985 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 3: Bro the bullshit sometimes. 986 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 4: Like it'd be the littlest things, man, Like even if 987 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 4: you do a record for one of your homeboys, it's 988 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 4: an artist. Man, I'm not gonna put his name out 989 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 4: there because he real cool. 990 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 3: He the homie. 991 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 4: He did a record for Glasses, you know, studio and everything, 992 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 4: and like he do that as you big artists, right. 993 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 4: And the record company told us, man, we put it 994 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 4: out in Spotify. We know that Spotify wouldn't putting the 995 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 4: record up, and so we talked to the distributor and 996 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 4: they're like, they got a thing. They want to see 997 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 4: the clearance for him. So he hit the homie up, 998 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 4: and the homie, like you know what, it shouldn't be nothing, 999 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 4: called my people. 1000 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 3: Man. 1001 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 4: We got on the phone the people. This lady told 1002 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 4: us for Beatami's Asian lady. He can't take a ship 1003 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 4: without our permission. We own him, and that kind of 1004 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 4: fucked me up a little bit. But yeah, they can 1005 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 4: really stop you. And then I see it in some ways. Yeah, 1006 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 4: and I see it in some ways on their part 1007 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 4: because in some cases in a major star, they invested 1008 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 4: millions of dollars to make somebody's career. They ain't doing 1009 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 4: that for you to go blow somebody that ain't in 1010 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 4: their system up. So I can see certain things. But 1011 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 4: when the artist is making you a lot of money, 1012 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 4: because at that time, Big was the biggest thing bad. 1013 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you it's not benefit like while they would see 1014 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 3: his beneficial for him, because that makes your artist bigger. 1015 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: He's doing all these collapse. 1016 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 3: But they was like this, what Big was telling me, 1017 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 3: what they were telling him was like, Yo, they don't 1018 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 3: want you to burn out. 1019 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, nigga, when you hot, you hot. 1020 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1021 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: I don't think Biggie had no problem coming up with 1022 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 4: I think Biggie had enough rhymes for me, you and 1023 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 4: everybody else. 1024 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 3: Bro. The nigga used to do some magnificent ship in 1025 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 3: the studio, like I had this Nigga would just sit 1026 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 3: there and Bob for two three hours straight and then 1027 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 3: just going in the booth and give you fucking. 1028 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 4: Kicking the door, you know what I mean? Ship like that, 1029 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 4: He's still Man in my book. Man, And I know 1030 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 4: he didn't have the catalog the pophead but as far 1031 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 4: as because I'm a Tupac fan, I ain't gonna sit 1032 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 4: there in front of everybody. 1033 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 3: Loved Tupac, right. 1034 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 4: But Biggie Man, he didn't have the catalog that they had, 1035 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 4: but his album two albums were so impactful. Man, and 1036 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 4: he rhyme like the rhymes he said back then still 1037 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 4: sound fly today. Like if if it was a new 1038 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 4: rapper coming out today seeing big stuff. 1039 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: He gotta still be on here. 1040 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he got Toomless, he got Thomass Boss. Yeah, I'm 1041 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 3: a Park fan, like I'm geting twisted. 1042 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: I fucked with pop. 1043 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 3: It's just that. 1044 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: I can't have. I can love your music, but you 1045 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: got to be here, be with you. 1046 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 3: I love you and I he's big with American, the 1047 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 3: same song I was mad at after Like after that 1048 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 3: d damn ied tease with that, I would. 1049 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 4: You know what, Actually that might have made Big make 1050 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 4: even tighter music. Dog being in competition with that dude, 1051 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 4: because you know, they was coming with their ship. You know, 1052 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 4: everybody was coming with their fire. 1053 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 3: Everybody was coming with you gotta think about and he 1054 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 3: had competition with everybody in New York. It wasn't just 1055 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 3: it wasn't just Pop. No, it wasn't beef with everybody 1056 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 3: in New York. But you in competition with everybody. 1057 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, because he came down. Did you watch 1058 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 4: the woof flick? Did the Wu Tang the Wu Tang 1059 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 4: mini series? 1060 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 3: I watched a couple of seasons, so they had episode 1061 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 3: in there. I supported the Homie Davies too, so. 1062 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 4: You know, mm hmm, yeah for sure, y'all from the thing, 1063 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 4: we get into that in a minute. But they had 1064 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 4: a and that and like I think season three, Ghost 1065 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 4: Facing Ray was about to drop their stuff and they 1066 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 4: had like a whole episode and tied you know, like 1067 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 4: dedicate to Big because he came in and changed the 1068 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 4: sound up. Even ghost Face Old Lady was bringing you know, 1069 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 4: like the biggest joints right, and they was like. 1070 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: Man, okay, I might have saw that episode and it 1071 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: was a trip. 1072 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 3: Do you ever sit do you ever sit up? 1073 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: Man? 1074 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 3: And just trip out on the impact he had in 1075 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 3: such a short amount of time. Yeah, yeah, like because 1076 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 3: even though because you gotta you gotta think about it. 1077 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 1: Like when he passed, I was in jail. 1078 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't in the streets too long after he passed either, No, 1079 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 3: I ain't staying the streets too long, like I got 1080 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 3: locked up in oh one. 1081 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: So like when you see ship on tea, like when 1082 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: you start seeing shit on TV, like twenty years down 1083 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: the line, like twenty years. 1084 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: From Ready to Die, you seeing ship on National TV International. 1085 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1086 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: You seeing it in the. 1087 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 3: Space where it's not in just in our space, it's 1088 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 3: in a global space that's our damns. 1089 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: His little Africans, Europeans like you seeing. 1090 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 3: Everybody doing like every especially every March ninth for his birthday. 1091 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 3: M h you know what I mean. 1092 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 4: He's still a king of New York for sure. Oh yeah, 1093 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 4: he's still I think he could always be the king 1094 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 4: of n Why for the simple fact is. 1095 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 3: Everybody everybody messages theyself to Ben. He's different saying safe 1096 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,959 Speaker 3: in some shape form of fashion. You know what I'm saying, 1097 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 3: Whether it's whether it's fashion, the rhyms, you know what 1098 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 3: I'm saying. How how you know what I'm saying, how 1099 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 3: you move the vibe, bro, you can. 1100 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 4: See the influence right, like you look like a rapper 1101 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 4: like Rick Ross or Rick Ross first came out. I 1102 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 4: told homies, I said, Man, this dude is he's the Miami. 1103 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 4: He's trying to beat Miami Biggie Smalls. 1104 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: When he first came out. 1105 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 3: I ain't like just for that fact, just for the 1106 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 3: fact you thought he was biting a Homi Young. 1107 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, like fake country bid. You know what I'm saying. Literally, 1108 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: that's what I said. 1109 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 3: But you listen to him like, nah, he got his 1110 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 3: own that's that's It's just that that's who influenced him. 1111 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 3: So he got his own ship. You gotta tip your 1112 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 3: to him for taking his own image out of influence 1113 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 3: that he got from somebody else, for real. 1114 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 4: Because he definitely turned it into like his own thing. 1115 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this, man, Rose don't turn into 1116 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 4: probably one of the most incredible record makers and hip hop. 1117 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 3: That dude is undeniable. 1118 00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: Man. 1119 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 4: Now, he got no matter what you say when you talk. 1120 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 4: You could talk about the CEO shit, and to me, 1121 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 4: that's how you want to battle with fifty. He kept 1122 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 4: it about the music. He was going for us fifty 1123 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 4: to make some better music than him. Okay, you can 1124 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 4: crack the jokes, you can do the curly, you can 1125 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 4: do this and do that, but you had to rap. 1126 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 4: And he came with this ship when he dropped that 1127 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 4: Mafia music. When he dropped Mafia music, I said, yeah, 1128 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 4: he won his motherfucker he got bars, he got some bars. Yeah, yeah, 1129 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 4: he's a bad motherfucker dog. So you know, we got 1130 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 4: this whole thing going on with puff now, right, Does 1131 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 4: that surprise you in it? 1132 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1133 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: And no, yeah, because like I said, I got locked 1134 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 3: up in all one, so that's what it. Yeah, like 1135 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't he wasn't doing nothing that with those shit, 1136 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 3: you know what I mean at this time, you know 1137 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying all the times before, but you know, 1138 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 3: you start saying interviews and ship like that. It was like, Yo, 1139 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 3: I want to take you shopping, and I like seeing 1140 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 3: niggas scraping Like that's just weird, Like. 1141 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: Like that's weird to me. 1142 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 3: That's something you would say to it broad too, like 1143 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 3: I want to take you shopping exactly. So that's like 1144 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: that's why I say yes and no, it's like, yeah, 1145 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 3: some of this shit sound weird. But then when you 1146 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 3: when somebody start showing evidence of weird activities, you got 1147 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 3: to acknowledge it. 1148 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, hundred percent, you know. And I 1149 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 4: don't never celebrate a brother brother's demids man, because you know, 1150 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 4: jail is a terrible place. 1151 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 3: I only been locked up one time. And I tell you, 1152 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 3: I went in there a long time. I knew then. 1153 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 3: I didn't want to do the shit no more. I 1154 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 3: knew then, I said, one hundred percent. 1155 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: Huh, I said, I wish my dumb ass would have 1156 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: learned the first time. 1157 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I knew man once I saw man, and I 1158 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't nothing like, I wouldn't doing no hard time or 1159 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 3: nothing like that. Right, But I'm in that motherfucker dog, 1160 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 3: and it's like everybody because you had some dudes, this 1161 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 3: is like the county, right, and you got some people 1162 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 3: that's in there waiting for that. You got some people 1163 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 3: are probably been there for six seven months already, right, 1164 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 3: So it's like they program you and the little thing 1165 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 3: they everybody out in like the little fur away area 1166 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 3: whatever they call it. Then themselves open up and everybody 1167 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 3: just file in like their program, dude. 1168 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 4: And so I'm sitting up there looking because I'm ready 1169 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 4: to make my bell right, I'm about to bail out, right. 1170 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 4: So I'm sitting up on the thing. I don't want 1171 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 4: to lay down on that motherfucker, right, because they all 1172 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 4: laying down, So I sit down. I see a dude 1173 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 4: over there. He go right to sleep. Man, he's sleep. 1174 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 4: He knocked out. And I see a big ass Brokes 1175 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 4: come up, and I'm like, the rokes crawled on his 1176 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 4: face right, and the muffle's going his mouth. He sucked 1177 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 4: the munth and just keep on sleeping. I'm just like, oh, man, 1178 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 4: it was disgusting. And I drunk this juice in that 1179 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 4: motherfucker dog, and I swear my head was hurting for 1180 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 4: like three days after that. 1181 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they put some shit in 1182 00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 3: that juice in the dog. 1183 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: Probably do what kind of Joe where you was at? 1184 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 4: I was in Long Beach, man, I was in the thing. 1185 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 4: I got into these police officers and they did some 1186 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 4: fault this shit. It took me in right, and I 1187 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 4: wasn't I was in there about six hours, right, six 1188 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 4: hours and if that might be five four hours, right, 1189 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 4: But it seemed like it was forever right, and it 1190 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 4: just wasn't a place I wanted to beat dog. It 1191 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 4: seemed like I was like, Man, what the fuck am 1192 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 4: I doing up in here? 1193 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 3: Man? I got too much other shit. 1194 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: To be doing. It's the crazy part. 1195 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 3: You'll you'll like because I've been through it too many 1196 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 3: fucking times, right, But you'll go through it so much 1197 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 3: that you'll be immune to that shit, you know what 1198 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying. It discussed you all the while. Mm hm, 1199 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 3: and your mind is just like, Yo, if this what 1200 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 3: I gotta go through in order for me to eat, 1201 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 1202 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: Then that's what it is. 1203 00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you did some real time. 1204 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When you're stuck in that mentality, 1205 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck. 1206 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 4: Because you've been out and you've actually been doing pretty 1207 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 4: good for yourself. I know you've got a lot of 1208 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 4: stuff that you're doing with prison reform and stuff like that. 1209 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: A youth way. Yeah, Well, I was working with a 1210 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 3: they called Crisis Man's System. They anti gun violence organizations, 1211 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 3: they nonprofits. I was working with one one joint called DRUM. 1212 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 3: The Relevant Rights is uninety movements. It's you just going 1213 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 3: to the neighborhood offer resources to the law homies, especially 1214 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 3: the dudes. That's that's actively gang Bang m HM. And 1215 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 3: the neighborhood I was in was in Flatbush. My hood 1216 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 3: is not in Flatbush. I'm in the stock but a 1217 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of the a lot of the 1218 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 3: gang gang members, especially the crips. 1219 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 4: No or no, you ful you a full flage crip. 1220 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah you're red crip. And it's crazy, man. I think 1221 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know. But Game Bang in 1222 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 4: New York is for real. 1223 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh for sure, niggas is getting chipped on 1224 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: the regular. It ain't you know what I'm saying. We 1225 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,439 Speaker 1: not as entrenched as LA. 1226 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 3: And that's why I think it's wilder, because we like 1227 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 3: if we have had the LA structure, Because you might 1228 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 3: have a set and it's in all five boroughs, but 1229 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 3: in different places, and everybody don't know each other. Like 1230 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 3: you might have eight Trades in Brownsville and Crown Heights 1231 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 3: in Harlem. In the Bronx, they don't have one specific 1232 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, He says, little eight Trade 1233 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 3: clicks all over the city, whereas in LA, you know 1234 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 3: where eight Trade is, Yeah, we know where one of 1235 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 3: them is. Yeah, sure, it's just one neighborhood. 1236 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 4: Now you always go have you always go have people 1237 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 4: are spread out and move somewhere else. Like, you know, 1238 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 4: we got a spot out here called Lake with that's 1239 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: a pretty cool little area. You got sritos. You might 1240 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 4: have some cats that say, you know what, I got 1241 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 4: kids in abroad and I'm gonna go ahead and move 1242 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 4: out the way a little bit. So you got some 1243 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 4: of cats, just some everywhere, right, But pretty much Long 1244 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 4: Beach is a cript city. You got Roll twenties, you 1245 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 4: got you got Long Beach insane, you got rolland twenties. 1246 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 4: And now they even got hoods and North Long Beach. 1247 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 4: Long Beach is like two different cities. North Long Beach 1248 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 4: it's his own city. And you got you know where 1249 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 4: stupid is from the east side. Right now, North Long 1250 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 4: Beach they got hoods. Now that's just don't sprung up 1251 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 4: like in the last ten to fifteen years, right, So 1252 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 4: I can't. I don't keep up with all that shit. 1253 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Man. 1254 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 4: But everybody is kind of centralized where they act, you 1255 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Everybody is where their hood is 1256 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 4: always gonna be where it's at. But now with this 1257 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,959 Speaker 4: regentrification going on, man, this is going down. They still 1258 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 4: and tear down a lot of them projects at certain places. 1259 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 4: So you got whole neighborhoods just kind of being destroyed. 1260 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 4: And I don't look at it just like look at 1261 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 4: it from the game banging aspect. I think some people 1262 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 4: look at that stuff and just think, oh man, everybody 1263 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 4: over there criminal, get rid of Nah, all them people 1264 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 4: ain't criminals. Everybody not a criminal from a neighborhood. 1265 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: You got to see you playing down black neighborhoods, that's 1266 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: what that's what they missing. 1267 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're tearing down black neighborhoods. And the thing is 1268 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 4: just because I'm born in the neighborhood, of course I'm 1269 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 4: gonna be affiliated. These is my people right here. I 1270 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 4: don't went to school with these cats. So I may 1271 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 4: i'm from the hood, but I may not necessarily be 1272 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 4: a full flax game banger. So you have a lot 1273 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 4: of people who are gang members but not really act. 1274 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Dudes ain't active. I mean, Tomis Tomy's out here. 1275 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 3: They ain't active. 1276 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I know, these dudes ain't gonna do nothing, you know 1277 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. 1278 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 3: But like I said, just like you were speaking, we 1279 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 3: got we got babies in my neighborhood, you know what 1280 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying. We got not in my neighborhood, but like 1281 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 3: babies right here, you know what I mean. Then you 1282 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 3: got babies in Flatbush. Then you got just speaking on 1283 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 3: the Long Beach game, got babies in Flatbush, babies in 1284 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 3: in the style, and then you got babies downtown. That's 1285 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 3: just wild right there. Man. It's a lot of ship 1286 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 3: that can go down, man like that. 1287 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So that's why it's so volatile. 1288 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: And then you got like. 1289 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 3: Dudes try to take on La politics, but then got 1290 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 3: New York politics added on. 1291 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: So it's getting crazy. 1292 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like trays is beef for 1293 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 3: like like people gotta understand, is like for New York. 1294 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: New York is a blood city. Kid, what nobody saying. 1295 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 3: What you think is like that many that's who was 1296 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 3: deep first. Mm hm. That's just how it is, like 1297 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 3: all right, like in California, like San Diego or Sacramentum, 1298 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,919 Speaker 3: it's majority is majority dons, Yes, Georgia. You know I'm saying, 1299 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 3: that's New York. New York been like that for years. 1300 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 4: There's a lot of dudes, man, it's a lot of 1301 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think it is a lot of blood 1302 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 4: dudes in New York because I know, I don't know 1303 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 4: for sure, but I know Jim Jones he was claiming 1304 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 4: the Blood game for a minute, wasn't it. Or he's 1305 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 4: still maybe claiming the blood game. He's from a blood neighborhood. 1306 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,479 Speaker 3: And him. 1307 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 4: No Tree, Yes, a lot of it's a lot of 1308 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 4: that going on there, and they really get active with it, man, 1309 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 4: because one of the things you went back on, you 1310 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 4: went back on because of the shooting with little killing 1311 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 4: him right, Yeah, up at the station. 1312 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 3: What was that all? Who was y'all beefing with that? Was? 1313 01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: It was a situation really between her and five, you know, and. 1314 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 3: Copon and Norwey happened to be on Foxy Song and 1315 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 3: they did an interview with Nori and Nowy said, Yo, 1316 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm we holding Foxy down, you know what I mean. 1317 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: And niggas got their egos like I like, like I 1318 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: tell niggas like, I'm like, I was on bullshit. Like 1319 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: when I say a lot of this ship that transpired 1320 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: with me, I was on bullshit. I'm not gonna lie. 1321 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't sit here and be telling motherfuckers I was 1322 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 1: on some peaceful ship. I was on bullshit. 1323 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 3: So when when they they went upstairs and did the interview. 1324 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 3: I ain't go upstairs because I was you know, I 1325 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 3: was waiting for these niggas to come, right. So when 1326 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 3: copone come, I got a g only that I'm not 1327 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 3: going mentioned his name. He approached them, you know what 1328 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying, And the way he came off to the 1329 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 3: big homie, I ain't like. So then I said some 1330 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 3: and then they escalated from there and then the shots 1331 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 3: went off. Like but honestly, one of the Murder Unit 1332 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 3: dudes shot through the coat because he's seeing the noves 1333 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 3: on my mac mm hmm. 1334 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: So he shot through the coke first. 1335 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 3: His co you said, murder Unity, who is that? 1336 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 1: That's that's that was. 1337 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 3: That was some people know he was fucking with at 1338 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 3: the time, you know what I mean. But a lot 1339 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 3: of them brothers went to the fast and all that. 1340 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 3: They're doing good. Now theyre dealing with they dealing with 1341 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 3: the cannabis and they got their own podcast. They do 1342 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 3: the smoke Champs, like, yeah, for sure. For the two 1343 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 3: of the brothers from from from Murder Unit do smoke champs, 1344 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. 1345 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 4: So let me shotut to the homie, no, because that's 1346 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 4: the homie, you know, you're not shout nor you know 1347 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We just tell them some stories, man. 1348 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 3: We just know like the ship I had with Jim 1349 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 3: we Cool, the ship I had with Nook, the ship 1350 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 3: we had with nor Re and Compone, that shit is all. 1351 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: That shit is gravey. 1352 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 3: Like I said, Bro, be fifty five next Wednesday. So 1353 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 3: they ain't got no time for that ship because. 1354 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, there was a whole bunch of time because 1355 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 4: you missed up. You know, Because this is what I 1356 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 4: want to tell everybody out here. You know, when you 1357 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 4: in business, you're gonna lose money. You can lose money. 1358 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 4: I don't lost money and made money back, right, But 1359 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 4: the one thing you can't recoup is time. Time is 1360 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 4: your most precious commodity. I don't care if I lost 1361 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 4: everything today, I can bounce back a few months or whatever, right, 1362 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 4: but you lose time. Dog is gone and you ain't 1363 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 4: getting it back. Time is worth more than gold, bro. 1364 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 4: And I'm glad to see you out man at doing well. 1365 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 4: You know what I wanted to ask you. You ain't 1366 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 4: ever plugged up with Mike Son. Do you know Mice? 1367 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1368 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't know him like that. You know 1369 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but he know he knows because he 1370 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: with my man. 1371 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to connect y'all though, Man, I think 1372 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 3: he can. I think he can. Bro. Yeah, he was 1373 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: locked up with you know what I'm saying. And ship 1374 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 3: she will tell you she got she got stabbed behind me. 1375 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah. 1376 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the red rags stabbed them behind me. 1377 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy. 1378 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Man. 1379 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 4: I want to for sure link y'all up, man, because 1380 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 4: I think y'all would do some positive stuff with each other, 1381 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that my son is 1382 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 4: the homy shot my son eat the homie. Man, he 1383 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 4: got a lot of positive things going on. I know, 1384 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 4: the stuff that you're doing. Man, I think that's what 1385 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 4: it's gonna take. I think it's gonna take more cats 1386 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 4: like you that's actually from the soil. 1387 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: Man. 1388 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 3: Gotta beat g like now, the g homies got responsibilities 1389 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 3: that to come back and discourage the like the young 1390 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 3: homies from getting in the ship that. 1391 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: They got into. 1392 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,759 Speaker 3: Like all right, if a home did twenty years, thirty 1393 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,839 Speaker 3: years and you come home on bullshit, cause that's ass backwards. 1394 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, and I know some some homies might 1395 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 1: do a lot of time and be wanted to be 1396 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: out the way. 1397 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,600 Speaker 3: But because you wasn't out the way when you was 1398 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 3: when you was outside, you know what I'm saying, So 1399 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 3: you can't be out the way now. 1400 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,839 Speaker 1: Just be outside. 1401 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 3: On a positive note, you know what I'm saying, where 1402 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 3: you're trying to get these get these young homies resources 1403 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 3: where they don't got to be always you know what 1404 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying, banging you know what I mean, or or 1405 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 3: or in the streets. 1406 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Throwing bricks at the penitentiary. 1407 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, they need options, man, That's all it is. Man, 1408 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 4: Because and I wish Glass could have came on to day. 1409 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 4: I tell everybody, man, I tell everybody because you know, 1410 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 4: it's a lot of people that criticize, you know, people 1411 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 4: in the hood, you know, gang bangers, cryptic blood homies. 1412 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 4: And I tell them, I say, man, when you don't 1413 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 4: have no options, it's kind of difficult, right, That's all 1414 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 4: you know. But I said, I guarantee you. Let's say 1415 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 4: they open up a steel factory and watch right, and 1416 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 4: they start having thirty forty dollars dollars jobs. I guarantee 1417 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 4: you If them brothers got jobs, man, that's bullshit, and 1418 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 4: the hood will stop. 1419 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 3: Because the motherfucker know he gotta he got a job 1420 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 3: that he's guaranteed this and then they gonna get overtime. 1421 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 3: So nigga's gonna be bringing in seventy eighty ninety one 1422 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 3: hundred thousand a year. Motherfucker's gonna be thinking about spending. 1423 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 3: And the one thing everybody do. Dog. 1424 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 4: I notice every real man anyway love their kids. Right, 1425 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 4: So once they get with their finances together, dog, and 1426 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 4: they get with their woman, man, whatever start. You know, 1427 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 4: they have their kids, Dog, they whole mindset go change. 1428 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 4: It's gonna be all about that job. They're not gonna 1429 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 4: do nothing jepardize that. 1430 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 3: Paycheck because they they gotta take care of their kids. 1431 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 3: So we gotta give brothers opportunities. Man, We gotta really 1432 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,640 Speaker 3: be And that's one thing I get mad at. But 1433 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 3: I don't tell nobody how to spend their money. 1434 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Man. 1435 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,600 Speaker 4: But I'm not with the floss and man, some of 1436 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 4: these brothers got money to where they can make a 1437 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 4: difference and don't, but they decide not to for whatever reason. 1438 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,880 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's for everybody to do though 1439 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,480 Speaker 4: some people we don't. You know, some people ain't qualified. 1440 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 3: Man, But I think in my personal opinion. I think 1441 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 3: any any dude that came from the struggle, you know 1442 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 3: what I mean. Now, you got some you got some 1443 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 3: brothers that they don't know the struggle, so they don't understand, 1444 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But somebody they know has 1445 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 3: or they related to, has been through the struggle. You 1446 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 1447 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: So anybody that that that that that been through the 1448 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: struggle has a has an obligation broke to put something back. 1449 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:42,760 Speaker 1: You ain't. 1450 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 3: I ain't telling the motherfuckers like I'm not telling people 1451 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,560 Speaker 3: to do what I would do. That's probably why I 1452 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 3: don't got the money like these niggas, you know what 1453 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Because I would you know what I'm saying, 1454 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 3: I would do more. 1455 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Well, you know what, it 1456 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 4: ain't too late. Like I said, Man, I'm gonna hit 1457 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 4: Mice up, man after we done with this, man, and 1458 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get y'all connected, man, because Mice got a 1459 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,560 Speaker 4: lot of flash stuff going on. 1460 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,759 Speaker 3: Man. I feel like that he like that you getting 1461 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 3: with him would be something powerful. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, 1462 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 3: because Mice he got a platform. That he got a platform, man, 1463 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 3: that he real serious about and I like what he's doing, 1464 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 3: you know, Like I listened to him and I think 1465 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 3: he's real genuine about what he got going on, because 1466 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 3: you know, he lost a lot of time. 1467 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 1468 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 4: You know, at one time, Mice was one of the 1469 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 4: hottest dudes in New York, you know, and he kind 1470 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 4: of lost all that man behind. 1471 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 3: Some he was he was like that that guy coming 1472 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 3: up and caught the case. Mm hmmm, because him and 1473 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 3: Fab him and Fab was was was like the little 1474 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 3: the two young mixtape dudes around that time. That's what 1475 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Broke. I remember hearing about him and I 1476 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,679 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, he about to be that next one. 1477 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 3: And then it was just all over. 1478 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:57,720 Speaker 4: Just like. 1479 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 1: I think he has signed already. I'm not sure, but. 1480 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,639 Speaker 4: And it's just like she out leave man, So tell me, man, 1481 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 4: tell me about the podcast mans, I want to send 1482 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 4: some people over your way. 1483 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 3: Well, me and Tad we we had a podcast called 1484 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 3: og Whitz. We basically speak on strictly our issues, you 1485 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, like I said, the anti 1486 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 3: gun violence, shit politics history. Last week, I just gave 1487 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 3: an introduction on basically my you know who I am 1488 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 3: and and how I came up to be who I am. 1489 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, And we just speak on 1490 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 3: different talkings. We have certain people in that come in. 1491 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 3: We were looking to interview entrepreneurs that basically came through 1492 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 3: circumstances like ours. You know what I'm saying, from them, 1493 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 3: comeback stories so people can see, especially the young dudes, 1494 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 3: can see that this is the information we're given up. 1495 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 3: Like you can you can turn around for being fucked up. 1496 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 4: That's these people need. The kids need to hear, man, 1497 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 4: because people need to know it's another side. Like I 1498 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 4: tell people all the time, Man, I don't want to 1499 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 4: glorify the war stories. Bro, you don't heard enough of them, 1500 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 4: but a lot of that stuff think that you know, 1501 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,719 Speaker 4: like enough of that, man, Let's talk about some change. 1502 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the brother that gets out of prison 1503 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 4: and open up five barbershops. 1504 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 3: And you know, he is the type of people that 1505 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,919 Speaker 3: we want to introduce to our platform when we do interviews. 1506 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, People like y'all, you know 1507 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You hate glasses? You know what I'm 1508 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: saying because I follow him. 1509 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely gonna come on and and I'm gonna 1510 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 3: get last anybody you need, bro, let me know and 1511 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 3: how we make that happen. Yeah, because we just want 1512 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,680 Speaker 3: to tap in with the community, you know what I mean. 1513 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,879 Speaker 3: We just want to tap in with like with our community. 1514 01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 3: And yeah, sure know like you got men, that's that's 1515 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 3: head for us. Yeah for sure. I'm gonna have a 1516 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 3: link to the show man and description, So y'all make 1517 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 3: sure y'all go down there and click the Homies thing 1518 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 3: and wish your Instagram bro. See Gutta underscore where you at? Yeah, 1519 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 3: get the home mee up man, see Guta Man. I 1520 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on. Man, it's another episode down thing. Remember, 1521 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 3: keep the homie MC eight and y'all prayers. Now the 1522 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 3: homie don't go start no rumors. He will be all 1523 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 3: right and everything. But he just recovering right now, all right, 1524 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,680 Speaker 3: So keep him up in prayers. So we go up 1525 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 3: and get him back here. I recovery for sure, man, 1526 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 3: for sure. Well, I'll check y'all out next week. I'm 1527 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 3: out of here. Well. 1528 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,919 Speaker 4: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 1529 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 4: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to 1530 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 4: The Gangster Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find a purple 1531 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 4: Mica on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, 1532 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 4: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The gangst 1533 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 4: Chronicles podcast Norman Steell, Aaron m c a Tyler. Our 1534 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 4: visual media director is Brian Whatt, and now all your 1535 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,560 Speaker 4: editors Telling Hayes. 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