1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: A note to the listener. The following story contains some 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: adult content and language. What's in a name? Let's try 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: something say or think of the name of the last 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: person you saw. Now, did you imagine the letters that 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: make up their name or did you imagine them them right? 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: And if you stay with that image of them, your 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: mind will fill in even more details about that person 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: just from a word, just from their name. There are 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: so few names involved in the Angel of Vine case, 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: so little information that the circumstances leading to the death 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: of Marley Marie Evans required some level of imagination that 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: the cops either didn't have or didn't care enough to employ. 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Hank briggs use of his imagination just got him a 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: new name. It's Zeros. Granted it was the name of 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: a nightclub, but a name no one else had associated 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: with this case. And what's in this particular name is 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: an entirely unexplored world which Hank Briggs was about to 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: enter from Vox Popula and the Los Angeles. Harold, this 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: is the Angel of Vine. My old heart ain't gain 20 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: and no ground because my angels. These are snippets of 21 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: the recordings from Hank's steak out of cereals. It's thorough, 22 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: not so much informatively, but thorough and sheer. Volume four 23 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: separate tapes for a total of fourteen recorded hours over 24 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: what I think was roughly eight or nine days. My 25 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: best guest just based on his mention of the daytime 26 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: food deliveries, and yes, I have listened to all of it. 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: He sat in his car on the corner of Sunset 28 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: Boulevard and Olive Drive, observing that place and talking to 29 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: himself for eight or nine days. Zero's being the spectacle 30 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: that it was almost every night, Hank thought it would 31 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: be easier to hop the velvet rope of the daytime door. Hey, 32 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: excuse me, pal, you run this place? Yeah, yeah, I'm 33 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: looking around Crates the salmon because I run this place. Hey, Anton, 34 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: Now that one's gotta go in the cooler. It's a 35 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: manager around at eight o'clock in the morning. Bunny, I 36 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: think that's your name, because I didn't throw you one. Listen, 37 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: it's daylight. I'm not here to make a mess. Yeah, 38 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: people call me tiny while are you're stepping over him? 39 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Or before? Was that? Jesus? Nothing? Listen, Tiny, maybe you 40 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: can help me, you know, with what somebody used to 41 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: work here. I'm not gonna be much help there. I'm 42 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: back in the house, not even back of the house. 43 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm more like under the house. Honestly, I'm usually gone 44 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: by the time most of the staff arrived. You don't 45 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: see anyone coming to donor. I do my job so 46 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: I can be out of my way, simple as that. 47 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: To sound philosophy, Yeah, yeah, because people mistake me for 48 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: a philosopher all the time. We've done here. And who 49 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: do want need to speak to? It's in charge of hiring. 50 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: You're pretty persistent for not wasn't a mess. Who's asking? 51 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Labor union? Labor union? What are you some sort of commie? 52 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Get out of here, your clown clown? Le'm asking your question. 53 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't being really nice to you, and I don't 54 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: have to be. I don't have a lot of patience. 55 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm not patient. Draft My wife nuts who thanks buddy, 56 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: it was a joker. I don't think it was. Look, 57 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to inconvenient you. I'm just here to 58 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: find someone who might be able to help me do 59 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: my job so that I can be on my way. 60 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: Ask for Alistair. He's the manager. He comes in around them. 61 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: But you didn't get his name from me, because I 62 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't need any trouble. You can tell him I 63 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: was looking for him. I said, I don't need any trouble. 64 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Hank has no direct contact with anyone named Alistair within 65 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: the fourteen hours of tape of the people he sees 66 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: entering an exiting CEOs, Hank takes a few guesses at 67 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: who might be Alistair, but there are no conversations with 68 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: any other male employees. The only other time Hank left 69 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the confines of his car were to question a couple 70 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: of the female employees, and for whatever reason, his favorite 71 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: cover seemed to be labor union leader Hank Briggs. She 72 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: was with a baseball player, that made sense, and now 73 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: she's with a writer, A normal person. With a woman 74 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: like that, I wouldn't even have the course to say. Hi. Way, 75 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: when Piggy asked to dance and she says I would 76 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: enjoy to dance, gives him every time I think about it. 77 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Fly on the wall, Oh my kidding, there's no flies 78 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: in there. There we are, ladies. Just to what I 79 00:05:50,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: wanted to top. Two mm hmm. Excuse me, ladies, I'm 80 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: really sorry to bother you. Hello. I don't think you're sorry, 81 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you both work here? Is that correct? H 82 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: That's right? Do you mind if I asked you some questions? 83 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: I'm with Local forty seven. I'm Hank Braves, Diane Mosley, 84 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: late for work. Would you tell what do you ladies 85 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: do here? I would coach check cigarette girl? Don't they 86 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: have machines? Now? Hey? Easy, there are here trying to 87 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: get me canned? So what's Local forty seven musicians? Junior? Oh, 88 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: it's about Barnaby's hand, Barnaby the piano player. Obviously it isn't. 89 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: What's your question, Hank Briggs? Was it? We gotta get inside? 90 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: Did either of you know Marlene? Marie Evans? Never heard 91 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: of her? We gotta go. Diane, you've never heard of her, 92 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: don't know her? Frenie? We agree, Sony bitch? Oh hey, hey, 93 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a creepy. Let's get tossed on the sunset. 94 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Just a a few questions. You can't be back here, sir, 95 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: this is private property. All right, I'm going. I'm going. 96 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Hank didn believed the cigarette girl, and he was right 97 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: not to, but he was wrong when he said he 98 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: didn't have patience. Hank Briggs had enough patience to spend 99 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: an entire week scouring the paper for baseball scores while 100 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: washing down cracker jacks with black coffee, until the right 101 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: moment arrived for him to have a real conversation with 102 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Diane Moseley, the co check girl. Nice. Catch up with 103 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: you later, Diane. Yeah, it's okay. He startled me. He 104 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I'm sorry. It didn't mean to scare you. 105 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: Henk Briggs, yeah, I remember you. Do you mind if 106 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: we walk? No? No, not at all? Cigarette, No, thank you? 107 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Did you know Marley? Yes? But not well, you know 108 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: she was. She was real nice, so polite, always a 109 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: please and thank you, no matter what. Were you too close? Well? 110 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't socialize outside of work more than 111 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: a few times. If that's what you mean, any particular reason, 112 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. She was certainly 113 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: a lot more outgoing than I am. How's that? She 114 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: was really good on the floor, you know, never hovering, 115 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: not trying to be noticed. It's just like she belonged 116 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: with the stars, you know. She was so relaxed, I 117 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: mean relaxed around James Dean. I mean, are you kidding me? Nice? 118 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: He came in, I couldn't even look at him. I 119 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: get too nervous. No, I like my little own clay 120 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: away from it all. Did you know if anyone else 121 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: was close with her? You're not really a musician, are you. 122 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Why did you pretend not to know her? We were 123 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: told not to mention that she ever worked at the club. 124 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: It would have shut us down. Why. I can't afford 125 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: to lose my job, Mr Briggs, I promise you you're 126 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: not going to That's not why I'm here. They didn't 127 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: want a chance anyone looking at the books. Okay, there 128 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: are no books. It pays in cash. And since Marlene 129 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: had already quit the club when it happened, she wasn't 130 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: working here when she was killed. She was only working 131 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: to privates. Privates What what's that? I don't know. That's 132 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: what she called him. Were these privates arranged through the club? No? 133 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Who then? I don't know. Well, did you work with 134 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: anyone else? Diane? I'm not a cop. I'm not trying 135 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: to get anyone in trouble here. I promised that you 136 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: were in that giant bouncer you got at the front door. 137 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: Will never ever see me again. I just need a name, please, Fish, Fish, Fish, 138 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: that's what I thought, you said. He runs a club 139 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: called The Battle. It's way down on Central Marley and 140 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: asked me if I wanted to make some good money 141 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: working for him, like three or four times would make 142 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: here in a night, Like I said, I'm not real outgoing, 143 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: so I said no. Well, please don't not tell anybody. 144 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: I told you all of this, and there's no need 145 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: for me to talk to anyone. I doubt what I needed. 146 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Can I help you get somewhere? Thank you? And it's 147 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: hey day. The historic Central Avenue Jazz Corridor, or the 148 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Avenue as it was called, was where everybody wanted to 149 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: be when the sun went down in Los Angeles. Wild 150 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: nights of drink, dance, and authentic live jazz unlike any 151 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: you might ever hear again. Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Billie Holiday, 152 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Art Tatum, Lionel Hampton, Charlie Parker, Lena Horne. These were 153 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: just some of the musicians you might see on any 154 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: given night, and if not performing, chances are you could 155 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: catch a glimpse of one of them amidst the crowd 156 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: at Club Alabama, the Last Word, the down Beat, or 157 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: in the lobby of where they all stayed the famed 158 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Dunbar Hotel. It was the West Coast lem renaissance, and 159 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: it had everyone's attention, including the cops. Like any other 160 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: area in Los Angeles at that time, Central Avenue had 161 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: its sed reputation for drugs, gambling, and prostitution, and it's 162 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: known that gangsters like Mickey Cohen would hide away in 163 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: the clubs that he was rumored to have invested in, 164 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: either from the cops or from hits placed on him 165 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: by other gangsters. The Battle was a lesser known venue 166 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: than the others and opened just at the tail end 167 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: of this booming era. It was a smaller club, so 168 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been as easy to blend in, So 169 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: for a few nights, Hank carefully assumed the role of 170 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: bar fly very much. I haven't heard the name fish 171 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: once since I've been here. I got three viable contenders, though, 172 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: each one of them real slick, good with the crowd. 173 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: At ten of this we are that steals trio dude, 174 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: forget to tip your that's last called buddy, Yeah, why not? 175 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I'll take one more? Still on, still on it. There 176 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: you go. Thanks, keep the change this sea taking our 177 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: years bound. You made it just in time, drink up fast. 178 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Good point, Good point. I was gonna say the same 179 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: thing to you, just taking my time, unless you're gonna 180 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: sit here another night talking to yourself? Can I help 181 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: you with something uncanny? There you go, taking the words 182 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: right out of my mouth again. Only cut the chitchen. 183 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: What you want? What makes you think? Good? Nights? Ago? 184 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: You asked the trumpet player by the name of Ellis 185 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: that this was Fish's joint. Fish Frank, hand me that 186 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: bottle and two glasses. You got it. Why don't we 187 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: head to my office and talk about whatever the hell 188 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: it is got you looking so skittish. I'll be in 189 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: the back it rayneeds me. Uncle. It's been a long 190 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: time since a white man came asking for me. What 191 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: are you playing that? I see plenty of white people 192 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: in there, Oh them, No, they are customers. They're down 193 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: here slumming to get a taste of a real experience. You. 194 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I got no idea why you're here, but I do know. 195 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: I clocked you the seince you walked in. You don't 196 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: exactly scream jazz man, set jass down. Do you hear 197 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: about Shepherd's money? No good? Am I gonna need this? 198 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: No good? As long as we square on that what 199 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: you want? Where was Marline Murray Evans work in the 200 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: night she was murdered? Little ship? You just came out 201 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: and said it just like that. You ain't messing around, 202 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: aren't you. I know that she worked for you doing 203 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: privates wherever the hell that is? Privates? Kind of foolish nonsense, 204 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: is that? What did she do for you? Look? I 205 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of girls who worked for me. I 206 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: don't keep track of them all. Sure, I get it. 207 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: A businessman like you does tons of deals. Definitely too 208 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: busy to remember every single person he hires. In my 209 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: costs you pretty spot all. And the Angel of Vine 210 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: was well over a year ago, right, easily right, except 211 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: that it was the Angel of Vine girl being ripped 212 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: open in the parking lots, the kind of thing people 213 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: tend to remember, especially when they're partly responsible. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, 214 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have nothing to do with that girl getting killed. 215 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: She signed up to work those parties through one of 216 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: my other girls. I only ever meta when she came 217 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: down here to get paid. Okay, good, So she did 218 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: work for you. Thank you for being honest. Damn it. Now, 219 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: what parties you know, just private parties. That was all 220 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: all these fancy ass people in their big houses, the 221 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: ones who have their drivers, bring them down here to 222 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: take a peek at how we live. Just like those 223 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: people out there tonight. They want the life, but on 224 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: the turf. You know what I'm saying. I supplied to 225 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: things musicians and girls, prostitution. Ow hell, no, I look 226 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: like jelly roller you. As far as I was concerned, 227 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: they were having drinks and tiny ask food on silver 228 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: platters with important Hollywood people. Whatever they did after them parties, 229 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: I didn't ask. None of my damn business still isn't ship. 230 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: When that girl turned up dead, all of that stopped. 231 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: The people who hired me stopped calling. Not you here, 232 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: why I need to know where she was at night? 233 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: We did a party at Leonard Schawles that week, Leonard 234 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: Shaw as in Classics Studios, Leonard Shaw. Most of the 235 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: parties with a Leni Shaw your movie mogul A hell, 236 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it? All that money, you got what 237 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: you need? Because I'm tired as all hell, and I'm 238 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: certainly not gonna get any more. Sober sly in here 239 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: talking with your ass. This was huge. The fact that 240 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: Marlene was working at a party before she was killed, 241 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: opened up new possibilities for a number of potential witnesses 242 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: as well as potential suspects. All Hank needed was a 243 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: guest list from one of the most powerful and inaccessible 244 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: people in all of Hollywood. All I could say is, 245 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's paying good afternoon. So how may I 246 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: help you? I'm supposed to be beating someone here. Irwin Ogelman. Yes, 247 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: he's in the new room, right this way, new room. 248 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: A quick reminder, Erwin Fogelman was the director who had 249 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: hired Hank and then recommended him to Samuel Towns Hag 250 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Briggs Musso's huh and I think they were gonna let 251 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: me in. It's good to see you, Hag. I appreciate 252 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: you taking the time out of your busy schedule. Or 253 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: when are you kidding? You know the reason I still 254 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: have a busy schedule. I already ordered us the double 255 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: tender one. Get a drink, let me get the winter No, no, no, 256 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: it's okay. Water is fun. You know I'm footing the 257 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: bill right. No, suit yourself. So to what do I, 258 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: oldest honor? What can you tell me about Leonard Shaw? Uh? 259 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: He's a prick. Say this. He's mean just for the 260 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: sake of being mean, gets his kicks humiliating people working 261 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: on a case, and his name came up. He throw 262 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of parties at his house. He threw parties 263 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: on that estate every weekend. How many people you think? 264 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: How many people like that? Everyone? I used to say, 265 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: if you want to keep your stars, then you gotta 266 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: keep them full of champagne. What a prick? Anyway you'd 267 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: be able to track down. I don't know a guest 268 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: less me? Oh no, no, God no, I mean. Leo 269 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: hates me almost as much as he hates being called. 270 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Leo took absolute pleasure in firing me. He and I 271 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: haven't spoken in at least three maybe four years. He 272 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: swore to destroy my career. That's all right, all right, 273 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: it's not the first, probably won't be the last. The 274 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: double tenderloine for your gentlemen, Please be careful. The play 275 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: is very high, not that one of these. Please, hey, 276 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: come on, please start eating. What happened with you two? 277 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: Did you ever see my picture divided before the fall? 278 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I didn't wife and I don't get out much. 279 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: It's rhetorical Hank, I never made it. Pardon Leo gave 280 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: me six million dollars to shoot this epic production in Utah, 281 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: which turned into a disaster. Everybody was getting violently. It 282 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: was hotter than hades. We had actors passing out in 283 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: their costumes, right makeup running into the actor's eyes. Then 284 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: we had a week of torrential rain and flash flooding 285 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: in the basin that served as the majority of our location. 286 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: We had to pack up and return to the studio. 287 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: I got it done, but there wasn't much to brag about. 288 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: Downright disaster. Ended up costing lead on another couple of 289 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: millions of shelving so as not to affect the studio's reputation. 290 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: M I couldn't get your run a Leonard show if 291 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: you showed up with eight million dollars and an apology 292 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: letter written on gold leaf in my own blood. But 293 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: I can get you on the lot. That'll do great. 294 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Set it up with my girl, Yeah, hand deliver a 295 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: script or something anyone knows. Maybe you can finagle your 296 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: way into his cold black heart. Yeah, prick. As the 297 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: very next hite begins, Hank is already on the lot. 298 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how he did it, but he did 299 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: testing testing. Okay, let's find out a little bit about you. 300 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: Mr Shaw here, ghoes just here to drop up this script? No, 301 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: no need to get up. I could just hand it 302 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: right to r I'm sorry, he just shipped. Should I 303 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: call security? You're Adler, Harrison Adler. Should I call security? No? 304 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Not if you want to keep your job, you wan. 305 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: I don't think Leonard shouted be too happy to know 306 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: that just any random stranger could get into his office. 307 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: All right, just calm down. That won't be necessary, imagin 308 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Just close the door and go back to work. Yes, Adler, 309 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: And just like that, Hank Briggs was face to face 310 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: with the only person suspected of killing. The Angel of Vine. 311 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: The Angel of Vine is a podcast produced by Vox 312 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Populi on behalf of the Los Angeles Herald. Thank you 313 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: for listening to the Angel of Vine. 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