Speaker 1: What is a Bachelor? Happy Hour listeners, We had another
Speaker 1: episode for Michelle's season in the books, and it's one
Speaker 1: that we're going to be getting into with the Woman
Speaker 1: of Herself today. But I have my girl Tasia back
Speaker 1: with me. Thanks for joining again, Tasia. Absolutely hello, Happy
Speaker 1: Hour listeners. I am so excited to be back and
Speaker 1: give you all a little tea and inside scoop about
Speaker 1: this season. But you're right, I am so freaking excited.
Speaker 1: We have the woman of the hour. Our special guest
Speaker 1: today is a bachelor at Michelle Herself joining us, and
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to pick her brain about everything that's
Speaker 1: been going down. Oh my gosh, same, I've missed this one.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to have her on. I know usually
Speaker 1: each week we do a quick little recap or we
Speaker 1: give our highlights, you know, of what really stood out
Speaker 1: to us. But I figured this week, why do we
Speaker 1: even need to do that when we have Michelle on, Like,
Speaker 1: we can pack her brain on everything that we saw
Speaker 1: about down last night. I do have some questions about
Speaker 1: premier or night Night one that I know she's probably
Speaker 1: sick of talking about by now, but we just need
Speaker 1: to get into it with her because well, you both
Speaker 1: have all the behind the scenes you lived in. Michelle
Speaker 1: definitely was in the thick of things. So I think
Speaker 1: we should just get straight into our interview with her,
Speaker 1: because I know all of our listeners are just dying
Speaker 1: to hear from her right now. Yeah, I mean, let's
Speaker 1: bring her on. We got Minnesota in the house. Michelle,
Speaker 1: the woman of the hour of this season, my Midwest girl.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you here. Welcome to baut
Speaker 1: your happy hour. Thank you, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: It's so nice to be back on for anyone who
Speaker 1: can't see you, because obviously this is a podcast and
Speaker 1: we're all listening. Michelle is glowing. Michelle, you look absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1: We need to just tell you how good you looked
Speaker 1: in these first couple episodes. It's incredible, incredible, Thank you,
Speaker 1: And like we've Tachion, I have obviously met you in person,
Speaker 1: we've hung out a few times now, and you're just
Speaker 1: as radiant in real life. But I have to say,
Speaker 1: the confidence and the kindness that we have just seen
Speaker 1: from these first couple episodes just radiant through the TV screen.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you are our Bachelor Edge. How
Speaker 1: have you been now that it's finally airing and the
Speaker 1: world gets to see the beginnings of your journey. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm excited. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: more nervous. I think you call of it. Love to
Speaker 1: ask you too how you both felt in this position.
Speaker 1: But you know, Tasian, I have talked a lot about
Speaker 1: when is it kicking in? Like when does it kick
Speaker 1: in that you're the Bachelor? And you have these moments
Speaker 1: where you truly feel that you are the bachelorette and
Speaker 1: all of this just happened, and then I've you know,
Speaker 1: kind of been sitting with it a little bit and
Speaker 1: then back to normal life and now the whole world
Speaker 1: gets to follow along. So I'm super soaked and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I have to tell you, I
Speaker 1: don't think it ever hits. I still have moments we're
Speaker 1: all wake up from a nap and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: what actually happened to my life Alee years ago? Like
Speaker 1: it still doesn't seem real. I want to ask you
Speaker 1: really quick, because you just mentioned you know, obviously it's
Speaker 1: an adjustment, and you did go from filming your season,
Speaker 1: which is a whirlwind in itself, but then you went
Speaker 1: back to Minnesota and back to teaching, and now you're
Speaker 1: immersed back in this world. Now that it's airing, What
Speaker 1: has that been like? I can only imagine how much
Speaker 1: of a roller coaster. It's fun. I mean, lesson planning
Speaker 1: in the hair and makeup chair before you know, on
Speaker 1: your way to this premier brunch. It's just it's this
Speaker 1: total double life. I feel like that I'm living right now,
Speaker 1: and it's busy, it's hectic. I'm definitely tired. But I
Speaker 1: will say that being back in the classroom has made
Speaker 1: me feel so much like myself. And it's nice because,
Speaker 1: as you both know that, like this world, it can
Speaker 1: get kind of overwhelming at times, it can get a
Speaker 1: lot and sometimes you just need to be able to
Speaker 1: put it down. And I feel like being in the classroom,
Speaker 1: being with my students. When I'm there, I'm truly miss young,
Speaker 1: and I'm able to have like that old piece of
Speaker 1: my routine and my old life with me still, and
Speaker 1: so it kind of keeps me a balance in a way,
Speaker 1: even though I'm insanely busy. I can attest to that.
Speaker 1: I remember the night before You're a Bachelor brunch, I
Speaker 1: texted you and you're like, oh, I'm just working. I'm like, yeah, Bachelor,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. You're like, no, I'm doing
Speaker 1: lesson plans and you know it's like DM, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you really do it all. But I
Speaker 1: have to say, I really think that diving right back
Speaker 1: into teaching and like going in back into that world
Speaker 1: might truly be the best thing for you. I think
Speaker 1: that it keeps you not that you need to be grounded,
Speaker 1: but like I think it just really keeps you grounded
Speaker 1: and doesn't let you get so caught up in everything
Speaker 1: that's going on, because people are going to have so
Speaker 1: many opinions and you're gonna have so much coming your way.
Speaker 1: But this kind of allows you to kind of like
Speaker 1: shut it off. You can't be on your phone. You're
Speaker 1: kids that you know matter the most to you, and
Speaker 1: it kind of just allows you just to like again
Speaker 1: keep a piece of yourself. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: actually genius. So yeah, it's a nice I mean, it
Speaker 1: was definitely how about your system kind of thing. When
Speaker 1: you do it in you film, you fly home and
Speaker 1: then you're back in a classroom. But it's my kids
Speaker 1: definitely keep me humble that's good well, And I don't
Speaker 1: think for most of our listeners and viewers of the show,
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how crazy life gets, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're in the limbo phase between when you actually
Speaker 1: filmed and when it airs, like, you know, assuming all
Speaker 1: goes according to plan and you end up with somebody.
Speaker 1: I remember the days, like every week and a half,
Speaker 1: I'd be whisked back to California for a happy couple
Speaker 1: time with my partner. You're so all over the place
Speaker 1: doing press. It's not just like you have this downtime
Speaker 1: like these couple months, Like you're back and forth on
Speaker 1: a plane constantly. So it's got to be a whirlwind.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it's gotta be tough for the students too.
Speaker 1: What is the weirdest thing that one of your kids
Speaker 1: has asked you so far since everything has gone down?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm dying to know this. I feel
Speaker 1: like this group this year, they truly know me as
Speaker 1: miss young. I mean, coming into the classroom, they know
Speaker 1: that I was gone that first week of school because
Speaker 1: I was doing some filming. But as far as details
Speaker 1: about everything, that's pretty much all they know, which is nice.
Speaker 1: Now after night will that change Potentially when I go
Speaker 1: back to the classroom next week, might it look a
Speaker 1: little different, feel different? Good? But I definitely make sure
Speaker 1: to set that line between Miss Young and Michelle and
Speaker 1: make sure that everything's focused around learning and honestly, the
Speaker 1: kids this year, the biggest thing that they ask is like,
Speaker 1: just just tell us, just tell us, like are you
Speaker 1: with somebody? Are you not with somebody? Won't tell anybody,
Speaker 1: we won't tell anybody. I'm like, yeah, okay, you like
Speaker 1: you're cute, but no, I know, yeah, I know. Do
Speaker 1: you know. One of the kids's moms is like, go
Speaker 1: ask Miss Young, like get the details. We won't tell yeah,
Speaker 1: Or I'll even say like I'll tell you at the
Speaker 1: end of December, like when the finale is already you
Speaker 1: know previous Yes, Like she's gonna give it of December.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, little do they know that's like the
Speaker 1: last episode. Like I love that. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I loved seeing them on this episode and we have
Speaker 1: so much to talk about that. But I just also
Speaker 1: love they really keep it real with you, um and
Speaker 1: I feel like they they made you feel kind of
Speaker 1: comfortable and like brings it back home in a way.
Speaker 1: But um so we know we can speak from experience
Speaker 1: that nothing could truly prepare you for the role of
Speaker 1: being the bachelorette. But I'm actually curious to know what
Speaker 1: are some of the important conversations and qualities you were
Speaker 1: looking for that were important for you to convey as
Speaker 1: a bachelor at I think the biggest one that I
Speaker 1: wanted to set the tone was set the tone with
Speaker 1: was just authenticity and really making sure that these men
Speaker 1: coming in stayed true to who they were. And that's
Speaker 1: hard at times when sometimes you're still figuring out who
Speaker 1: you are and where you stand. And that's okay, And
Speaker 1: you know, I personally believe that I'm always on this
Speaker 1: personal growth journey and always will be, but you do.
Speaker 1: You have to know who you are, I think, in
Speaker 1: order to be in a relationship and a healthy relationship
Speaker 1: at times, and you know that tantem can kind of
Speaker 1: obviously move a little bit, but in this world, you
Speaker 1: can really lose who you are easily, and you can
Speaker 1: get lost with that. And so knowing who you are
Speaker 1: being genuine and then being humble because you comment as
Speaker 1: this normal person and you leave and then the world
Speaker 1: around you starts to change. And I think it takes
Speaker 1: somebody who can really stay grounded, has a good head
Speaker 1: on their shoulders, doesn't care about the spotlight, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's like you could but like my biggest worry
Speaker 1: was I could fall in love with somebody and who
Speaker 1: they are, and you know, after this and after the
Speaker 1: same kind of strikes and the spotlight strikes, are they
Speaker 1: still going to be that humble person? You know? And
Speaker 1: that's like that biggest thing, because it is a huge
Speaker 1: change that takes place. Oh, spoken like a true Midwesterner.
Speaker 1: I I love that right now, with that happened, we
Speaker 1: got to come back to Minnesota with us. But I
Speaker 1: love that you said that because that's actually when I
Speaker 1: was leaving to go on The Bachelor, you know, years ago.
Speaker 1: That was the one thing my mom said when she
Speaker 1: sent me off was stay kind and stay humble, And
Speaker 1: I think was so apparent. We saw it with you
Speaker 1: in you know, taking it back to your premiere and
Speaker 1: when you did the hometown package with your parents, when
Speaker 1: you sat down and just you know, had the barbecue
Speaker 1: and caught up with them and and they just showed
Speaker 1: such a great portrayal of, you know, a very positive
Speaker 1: relationship that you were lucky enough to grow up with.
Speaker 1: But you just I think any of you or felt
Speaker 1: that love that your parents had for one another for
Speaker 1: you and you back with them. It was it was
Speaker 1: really beautiful to watch. But I'm sitting there, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it seemed like my people like And that's one thing too,
Speaker 1: that just knowing you and having conversations with you, you know,
Speaker 1: and for all of our listeners who don't truly know
Speaker 1: you and have spent time with you, like you have
Speaker 1: stayed the same since I would say day one, since
Speaker 1: we first sat down, And that's what I think is
Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing. And I love that you drove
Speaker 1: that home with the men because you know, now speaking
Speaker 1: from experience and TATIONA, I'm sure you've experienced this as
Speaker 1: well with some of your guys from the season. As
Speaker 1: you you you kind of get to know these guys
Speaker 1: in one way, right, you have up to two months
Speaker 1: of no distractions with them, no phones, no TVs, nothing,
Speaker 1: But then they get out in the real world after
Speaker 1: the show and you kind of see fame go to
Speaker 1: some of their heads and they blow up. And not
Speaker 1: that people shouldn't soak in the opportunities because everyone definitely should,
Speaker 1: but but it definitely can change some people. And so
Speaker 1: I love that you win in night one, and I
Speaker 1: think the first speech with all the men fresh out
Speaker 1: the gate, you know, drove that home, which I think
Speaker 1: just set the tone for hopefully the entire season. Let's
Speaker 1: get back to just the premiere. I know you've been
Speaker 1: talking about it like crazy. We really want to get
Speaker 1: into what we saw go down last night. But just
Speaker 1: going back to the Limo entrances and you standing there
Speaker 1: and the nerves, coming back to what was one of
Speaker 1: your either I would say favorite Limo entrances or just
Speaker 1: one where you met a man and he just made
Speaker 1: you feel calm, where you're like, I can do this,
Speaker 1: this is going to work. I think one of my
Speaker 1: favorites was Rick coming in on that service flatter. His
Speaker 1: head was on this tray of lettuce with this silver
Speaker 1: top to it, and it just got me in a
Speaker 1: moment where I just genuinely laughed. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that first night, I feel like I laughed a lot,
Speaker 1: but with this, it had me laughing, It had me scared,
Speaker 1: It got the adrenaline going again. If I but I
Speaker 1: needed any more adrenaline. But and it showed dedication and commitment.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I would put myself in
Speaker 1: a table for however long, let alone the first time
Speaker 1: meeting somebody. But when it comes on to my favorite entrance,
Speaker 1: hands down, it's Rick and clearly hit off Michelle. He
Speaker 1: was committed to that. How long do you think he
Speaker 1: was on that table for? Can you imagine how uncomfortable
Speaker 1: he was? Absolutely drink. Did anyone feed him drinks? I
Speaker 1: hope so. I hope someone checked on him. I hope
Speaker 1: they allowed him to use the restaurant if he needed to.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long he was in there, but
Speaker 1: I do know that it was hours, because he came
Speaker 1: in and when by the time I gave my toast,
Speaker 1: he was still in the table. By the time I
Speaker 1: sat down and they rolled him in to talk to me,
Speaker 1: he was still in the table. And that hours later,
Speaker 1: that night long he had to whole. If he had
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom, he would have had to
Speaker 1: help hold it for a long Can you imagine someone
Speaker 1: He hadn't to tell someone to wheel him out in
Speaker 1: order for him to go the bathroom. Y, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: Can you take me out of here? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, though, I have to agree with you.
Speaker 1: The commitment on that was he definitely gets a gold
Speaker 1: star for his entrance. I hadn't seen anything like that
Speaker 1: before exactly. It was so unique. It really was. We're
Speaker 1: Rik fans over here. Yes, Okay, Okay, so last night
Speaker 1: we saw you go on three dates. By the way,
Speaker 1: we're going back to like the second episode. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank You've been doing Night one this whole time, and
Speaker 1: so I just want to I just want to like
Speaker 1: make your mind ready. Okay, So last night we saw
Speaker 1: you go on three dates. Which day activity wise was
Speaker 1: your favorite because you did rock climbing, you did the classroom,
Speaker 1: and then basketball. Oh yeah, then basketball. I would say
Speaker 1: basketball was my favorite, just because in your element, I
Speaker 1: know I am, but like being there in that element,
Speaker 1: you can also see a competitive side. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: a really competitive person. But also when I lose, I'm
Speaker 1: not a sore loser. Like I put effort in, I
Speaker 1: give it my all. But if I lose, I'm not
Speaker 1: like salty. I'm not a sore loser. And so seeing
Speaker 1: the guys in this environment where they get to tap
Speaker 1: into that competitive side, I get to see that. But
Speaker 1: then you know, if it doesn't go how you plan,
Speaker 1: how do you handle yourself? Like are you in a
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been in relationship where we both were
Speaker 1: very competitive and if I won and the other person lost,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I don't want I don't want that line.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it was nice to Gott to see that.
Speaker 1: And I think they were really nervous though, because I
Speaker 1: knew that I've had a long history at basketball, and
Speaker 1: so I think they were really just self conscious of
Speaker 1: I don't know, the bested their level of skill. I
Speaker 1: would have been so intimidated. Not only are they trying
Speaker 1: to wow you and stand out and date America's most
Speaker 1: eligible bachelrette, but like you can hoop, you're freaking good.
Speaker 1: Like It's not like if I would have not on
Speaker 1: that date, I would have zero intimidation because I'm the
Speaker 1: most inathletic person ever, but like you are actually so
Speaker 1: incredible with the balls and on the court and everything.
Speaker 1: I was just like, dam I'm gonna turned on, like
Speaker 1: watching Michelle right now. But but who obviously we see
Speaker 1: you gave Joe the MVP that day, who else like
Speaker 1: really stuck out to not even him like skill wise,
Speaker 1: but just somebody who handled the entire day very well. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: part Deep, part Deep has metatious, nothing has my heart
Speaker 1: and I feel like you can't agree on this. He
Speaker 1: was just so excited. He was just so excited to
Speaker 1: be here. He knew that all these other guys might
Speaker 1: be more athletics than him, but he knew that he
Speaker 1: had the smarts and just put the effort in. And
Speaker 1: there's just so much sincerity with him that anytime I
Speaker 1: was watching him, I was smiling and so him. Who
Speaker 1: else I'm trying to think of. I remember when party
Speaker 1: like made this like incredible shot. He had been shooting
Speaker 1: all day and he hadn't made anything. He made an
Speaker 1: incredible shot and we all lost it. We all screams
Speaker 1: like in the stands. And it was by the time
Speaker 1: the guys were playing five on five. The winners got
Speaker 1: to go to the after party, the losers had to
Speaker 1: literally go home. And it's the first week and like
Speaker 1: so many of these guys, I still haven't had conversations
Speaker 1: with ya and her. Deep made the first shot for
Speaker 1: his team and literally the stands when I say, everybody
Speaker 1: in a while, and yeah, it was. It was so fun.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I kind of think who else I
Speaker 1: killed it that day? Who else? Start? It looked really good.
Speaker 1: Martin was sleek good. I didn't realize how good he was,
Speaker 1: very like what was we call like shifty? Like he
Speaker 1: was quick and agile um nate six eight nate super
Speaker 1: close to the basket, couldn't put ball in the basket.
Speaker 1: To say, it was like, I don't know how you
Speaker 1: can get that close to the basket and missed up.
Speaker 1: Really so I guess that could be another level of challenge,
Speaker 1: but uh, but yeah it was. It was a good day.
Speaker 1: And I mean the guys got to shoot their shot
Speaker 1: and some of them did and some of them did
Speaker 1: with some of them are bald literally and figuratively. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so I have a question for you how scary it
Speaker 1: was rock climbing because I have never professionally done that before.
Speaker 1: But you look at the pro and honestly, Jamie was
Speaker 1: really helping you, which I really appreciated that, and I
Speaker 1: feel like, okay, well, that's a really good skill set
Speaker 1: for a man, is to actually be able to speak
Speaker 1: like in a loving way and try to be like Okay,
Speaker 1: I've tried this one, and try this one, and you
Speaker 1: got the hang of it and you felt really comfortable.
Speaker 1: So how fun was rock climbing? It looked incredibly scary.
Speaker 1: Did I look comfortable out there? You kind of like,
Speaker 1: well you're athletics. How hard you try? But you also
Speaker 1: just gave it your all because you would you you'd
Speaker 1: be like at times you would say like, okay, but
Speaker 1: where do I put my float or my hand or
Speaker 1: where do I grab? And then you would just do it,
Speaker 1: even if you were nervous, you would just do it
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, that's actually it's right there, I
Speaker 1: can grab. I got this. Like you were just like
Speaker 1: balls to the walls, ready to do whatever, even if
Speaker 1: it scared you. It was one of those things like
Speaker 1: looking off on it in the distance, like the actual
Speaker 1: rock formation, it looks tall, and then you walk up
Speaker 1: to it and you're like, oh my god, like I
Speaker 1: was supposed to climb that. You're supposed to like trust
Speaker 1: this rope, you're supposed to trust this person who was
Speaker 1: blaying you, and all these different things. But I mean,
Speaker 1: Jamie was he was really good at like talking me
Speaker 1: through things. Once you get up close to the wall
Speaker 1: and you're actually rock climbing and someone's telling you okay, well,
Speaker 1: like the rocks right there. It is very hard to find.
Speaker 1: It's like the camouflage, and so I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna trust you reach it was it was like
Speaker 1: this huge trust but like relationship bonding moment that Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was special. You both balance each other
Speaker 1: well on that and like bill to each other up
Speaker 1: and helped each other when you needed tom. I thought
Speaker 1: that was really special. I think I would have probably
Speaker 1: been like before I, before I got strapped in, I
Speaker 1: would have been like, can I take out some life
Speaker 1: insurance real quick? I don't know if I, you know,
Speaker 1: just met this guy last night. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I trust in fully? Yeah, I mean the room, Like,
Speaker 1: why did I know like liability way so quick? Did
Speaker 1: I really did I read the fine point? I'm not sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: going back to the very first state of the week,
Speaker 1: you had quite a variety of dates. Do you feel though,
Speaker 1: like what really set the tone was that first date
Speaker 1: with the kids in the classroom and the men. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like that just comforted you in a way
Speaker 1: where sometimes you just need a specific date at a
Speaker 1: certain time and to really, just like I said, set
Speaker 1: the tone for really this entire season to come and
Speaker 1: to just have both of your worlds collide. How did
Speaker 1: that feel, know, when you were able to bring some
Speaker 1: of the men into your world. I think you bring
Speaker 1: up a really good point. It was so comforting because
Speaker 1: you are outside your comfort zone a little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit, you're it's uncomfortable, right, and like the cameras there,
Speaker 1: you're still kind of getting used to this, getting your
Speaker 1: bachelorette legs underneath you, like your group date legs. It's
Speaker 1: a weird concept. But being able to be in the classroom,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like this default mode that I feel
Speaker 1: like I have and I understand, and so put me
Speaker 1: in any classroom, whether it's in Minnesota and it's my classroom,
Speaker 1: whether it's a different classroom, and I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like I'm at home a little bit. And was able
Speaker 1: to kind of jump in the groove there and then
Speaker 1: basketball as well, and so I felt like that first
Speaker 1: week with dates, it was just really encompassed who I was.
Speaker 1: It gave the guys a really good look at who
Speaker 1: I was, and it was a good start and it
Speaker 1: also kind of put the guys in their place. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, those kids were on it. She's like leave
Speaker 1: her alone when when who kep calling you? What was
Speaker 1: his name? We're goings? Bring your name Peter? All did
Speaker 1: I feel like they are Peter? He's like, She's like leave,
Speaker 1: Rollo got you? Yep? Yeah, no they in the back did?
Speaker 1: They really did? And they were so smart? Um was
Speaker 1: there anyone that surprised you? Good and bad? I guess
Speaker 1: like who kind of? Yeah? Romeo, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Romeo got a question wrong? Romeo hit everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a mathematician, right, he's a he's a smart man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a very smart man. Casey Casey as well, like
Speaker 1: Casey's has an extensive vocabulary. Um L team and me laugh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever failed to make me laugh.
Speaker 1: Going back to Peter on that date and the whole
Speaker 1: who wasn't the beef between him and it was Will
Speaker 1: correct who called him the narcissistant rown. Okay, I have
Speaker 1: to say, first of all, right, before Will and all
Speaker 1: the other guys turned their boards around, I said, somebody
Speaker 1: needs to write Peter's name. But what did you feel
Speaker 1: in that moment? Because obviously we go into the night portion,
Speaker 1: things got very heated. It blew all between the two
Speaker 1: of them. But did you think it was that big
Speaker 1: of a deal. At the time when Will wrote Peter's name,
Speaker 1: I was so hard as I don't know, like I
Speaker 1: and I still didn't know their relationship up until that point.
Speaker 1: But also we're just getting started, and I felt like
Speaker 1: everyone was fairly playful with each other. I mean, they
Speaker 1: their guys. They call each other out, but they laugh,
Speaker 1: and that one hit home for Peter and that's kind
Speaker 1: of why there was that reaction, and then it just
Speaker 1: continued to snowball into this, like into that evening. But
Speaker 1: at that time I didn't really see too much by it.
Speaker 1: Although I feel like Mia, one of the kids by me,
Speaker 1: like she like looked at me. I was like, didn't that.
Speaker 1: So the kids picked up on it right right, it
Speaker 1: was interesting. I felt like, yeah, as a viewer or
Speaker 1: you know, it was lighthearted again, like it's kind of
Speaker 1: a competition. You want to still make your name and
Speaker 1: stand out in a way. And I really didn't think
Speaker 1: it was that big of a deal. So when I
Speaker 1: saw them yelling at each other as you were trying
Speaker 1: to have a nice conversation with another man and you
Speaker 1: can hear them yelling behind you, I'm like, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's too early for this. This is just the first date.
Speaker 1: Come on, people, so sunny. I was like looking around,
Speaker 1: like who is talking? It was like, oh my god, wait,
Speaker 1: are those that guys in the background. I literally did
Speaker 1: not know that was so loud. I didn't know either, though.
Speaker 1: It took me. It really did take me a minute
Speaker 1: because it was the first it was literally the first
Speaker 1: group date. Yeah, and I'm sitting there talking to Olu
Speaker 1: and I do hear it, but I also felt like
Speaker 1: it was a really loud group of guys and they
Speaker 1: would like banter back and forth. They would laugh with
Speaker 1: each other. They six times, and so that felt like
Speaker 1: that was going on. And then I saw it in
Speaker 1: OHL's eyes where he was like, oh and hearing it.
Speaker 1: I'm like that yelling and he's like, yeah, it is
Speaker 1: so old coming in conversation. Already knew that there was
Speaker 1: beef between Willie Beaterer. Yeah, got it, got it. It's
Speaker 1: always like kind of I remember being back in that
Speaker 1: position where you can hear the guys and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes tensions are high, but like when you actually hear
Speaker 1: the fighting or you hear from the other guys what's
Speaker 1: going on. I just remember laughing, being like, is this
Speaker 1: what we're fighting? What is this the drama right now?
Speaker 1: But it's always fun to get like the snippets from
Speaker 1: other people and then to see it all unfold on TV,
Speaker 1: it seems way more. You're extreme and heightened. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: totally going off tangent here, but I need to ask you.
Speaker 1: I need to go back to Night one and all
Speaker 1: of this Ryan stuff when Tasia and Caitlin confront of you,
Speaker 1: because Michelle, first of all, I'm so glad that you
Speaker 1: just seleb rate through the BS and sent him home.
Speaker 1: I have to say I knew Ryan beforehand, and so
Speaker 1: for him to be like, oh, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what the Bachelor world. He was our bachelor for Bachelor
Speaker 1: Live on stage about a year and alow two years ago,
Speaker 1: and he was like he knew a lot about the show.
Speaker 1: He had like all this knowledge bank about everything, was
Speaker 1: like very invested, and so when he was trying to
Speaker 1: lie to you, I'm literally yelling through my screen of
Speaker 1: like that's oh shit, don't lie to her mind. Okay.
Speaker 1: I just talked to Ben Hans about this and he
Speaker 1: mentioned that he was on your show when you guys
Speaker 1: were doing that like traveling me and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: interesting and whatever, But for whatever reason, I didn't put
Speaker 1: it together that that whole piece added on top of
Speaker 1: it was when he was talking about being a part
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor world and how he had no idea
Speaker 1: because wow, yeah, so that's just the whole add it
Speaker 1: like again, like you put all these pieces together. There
Speaker 1: was just so much drama with that where I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is not this is not how you want to
Speaker 1: start a relationship, right it was. It was just so
Speaker 1: much information and even honestly, even the papers aside, even
Speaker 1: like the information that I had found aside. When I
Speaker 1: go back and have watched it, it's like in a conversation,
Speaker 1: I felt like he contradicted himself so many times that
Speaker 1: that complication standing by itself, it's like, you're not a
Speaker 1: bad person. I'm not sure where this is coming from,
Speaker 1: the dishonesty, but it's not where I'm putting my energy. Nope.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, let's just call it as it is.
Speaker 1: He's a bad apple, and honey, we're only looking for
Speaker 1: the good apples. So speaking of apples, okay, can we
Speaker 1: talk about Rodney's apple taste test because I'm not can
Speaker 1: you what? I was laughing so hard. This man is hilarious,
Speaker 1: but I need to know he really mixed up the
Speaker 1: Granny Smith in the Fuji apple. Yes, this man doesn't apples. Yes,
Speaker 1: this man does not know his apples. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that he called himself Granny Smith right off the bat.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this a red flag? Is it not?
Speaker 1: Bit into a green apple? And he didn't well going
Speaker 1: into that apple taste testing. I swear if he bit
Speaker 1: into a red apple, he identified it as some type
Speaker 1: of green apple yellow delicious, and then vice versa, like
Speaker 1: when he bit into the Red Delicious, like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a Granny Smith. I'm like that could not be farther
Speaker 1: from the truth. And then it just completely finished it
Speaker 1: out perfectly when I sat him a piece of pizza
Speaker 1: and he was like lasagna and I'm like, it has
Speaker 1: no idea. I like Rodney. We actually had Nate on
Speaker 1: last week's podcasts and he had nothing but great fun
Speaker 1: stories about Rodney. So I will say I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see more of him. His taste buds might be off,
Speaker 1: but he is entertainment for us viewers and I'm here
Speaker 1: for it. Absolutely. Let's get into the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: because that's where most of the drama was, right and
Speaker 1: you know, we saw since the beginning you have like
Speaker 1: this this weird history with the dms with Joe. You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of that lingering storyline and obviously now fed
Speaker 1: into your first week of dates and into your first
Speaker 1: cocktail party. What were you going through that night of
Speaker 1: the row ceremony, you know, hearing what was going on,
Speaker 1: hearing what Jamie brought to your attention, and ultimately deciding
Speaker 1: to cancel that cocktail party, Like talk us through that
Speaker 1: night in your mind, coming and taking the role as
Speaker 1: like the bachelor atte Like, you know there's going to
Speaker 1: be drama. You know that there's going to be highs,
Speaker 1: you know that there's gonna be lows and all these
Speaker 1: different things. But I think one thing that I really
Speaker 1: talked to Taship, I was just like, there's these moments
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I have no idea who would trust
Speaker 1: And that was definitely that moment where when Jamie sat
Speaker 1: down and spoke to me about what he was hearing
Speaker 1: and his perspective of things, it kind of launched everything
Speaker 1: in the air, and not so much where I turned around,
Speaker 1: and I was upset where like, who's questioning me? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit, but like all these different
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to think. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to believe. I was upset that my character was
Speaker 1: even being question because I was like, what do you say?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a good birth and I feel
Speaker 1: like that's shown, like why are we questioning my character
Speaker 1: like this? But also just not knowing who believes in you?
Speaker 1: And I've been in relationships where I've my partner didn't
Speaker 1: believe in me, and that was really difficult. And so
Speaker 1: you're trying to stay vulner when you're trying to stay
Speaker 1: open and there's all these different layers that you're trying
Speaker 1: to like navigate and figure out who believes in me.
Speaker 1: I just met all these guys. I don't know who
Speaker 1: believes in me. I don't know who's telling me the truth.
Speaker 1: And so it's a hard moment where you actually feel
Speaker 1: kind of lonely. Yeah. I remember talking to outside and
Speaker 1: you don't really see our conversation at all, but I
Speaker 1: just remember, like that really upsetting you and you feeling like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything that I'm supposed to be doing. Like
Speaker 1: my walls are down. I'm being as vulnerable as I
Speaker 1: possibly can. I'm being as honest as I can. Like
Speaker 1: him and I had exchange dms, but that was the
Speaker 1: extent of us ever being involved with each other. And
Speaker 1: I just remember you feeling like I don't know who
Speaker 1: to trust and that's a very scary place for me
Speaker 1: to be in. And it broke my heart hearing you,
Speaker 1: like even in your interview and talking to the guys,
Speaker 1: just saying like I really want to put those walls
Speaker 1: back up right now, and it's the very beginning of
Speaker 1: your journey, and for someone just to kind of create
Speaker 1: this storyline, it just really frustrated me just to watch
Speaker 1: you go through that. But I think you handle it
Speaker 1: so well and I'm happy that hopefully you watching it back,
Speaker 1: you can kind of understand that it was literally just
Speaker 1: Jamie and not really the rest of the guys. Like
Speaker 1: you guys were like, I'm sorry, it is what just happened.
Speaker 1: Like I know, when I was watching it back, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean, okay, I got it. I
Speaker 1: wasn't so off, but it definitely is. It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not a person who reacts to a lot or even
Speaker 1: is did buy a lot of drama. But I think
Speaker 1: the one thing that really got to me was the
Speaker 1: questioning of character. I think that I think could have
Speaker 1: gotten to me like it would be that and so
Speaker 1: it wasn't like this thing of like I'm quitting, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I was like whoa where? Like where do I even
Speaker 1: go from here? It's like me physically feeling like I'm
Speaker 1: like shoving these walls back down because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to talk to anybody. I you know, well and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But I feel like just from
Speaker 1: watching it, because to add at quotation said, I think
Speaker 1: you handled that situation very maturely. You went to the
Speaker 1: group of men, you had them all sit down, you
Speaker 1: addressed it. You kind of gave the context of you know,
Speaker 1: look my characters being questioned. Right now, here's the minimal
Speaker 1: history that Joe and I had, you know, between a
Speaker 1: couple dms. That's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: But I think the part that got me, and if
Speaker 1: I was in your position, I would have been frustrated with,
Speaker 1: is the fact that you then opened it up for
Speaker 1: questions and opened it up for this dialogue for any
Speaker 1: of these twenty five or however many you had at
Speaker 1: the time, men to ask you about it, to talk
Speaker 1: to each other about it, and they just all shut
Speaker 1: down and no one even you know, it was crickets.
Speaker 1: And so for you to be that vulnerable, to be like,
Speaker 1: this isn't an easy position to be in. I probably
Speaker 1: don't want to be addressed in this right now. But
Speaker 1: here you go, like, let's open up the floor and
Speaker 1: no one said a damn thing, and you're I could
Speaker 1: totally see why you're just like, okay, did I'm out
Speaker 1: of here right now? Like I would have totally reacted
Speaker 1: the same way. I would have probably won the canceled
Speaker 1: the cocktail party, because at that point, it's like you
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to talk to me or to each
Speaker 1: other and you chose not to. So like, why are
Speaker 1: we going to keep this going any longer if we
Speaker 1: don't have to? Was it? Two part questions? So for you,
Speaker 1: what was that like in your head? And what were
Speaker 1: you going through when you did open the floor up
Speaker 1: and no one said anything? And then to now watch
Speaker 1: it back and kind of see how you know, Jamie
Speaker 1: confronted you and he had no problem bringing that to
Speaker 1: your attention. But then totally shut down and took no
Speaker 1: accountability in front of the men for what he did.
Speaker 1: It was a confusing moment, and watching it back, I
Speaker 1: can see why I was confused, because they were like
Speaker 1: truly two different storylines that were going on. And so
Speaker 1: in that moment when I'm asking, you know it was?
Speaker 1: It was? It was brought to my attention in this
Speaker 1: very pointing manner that it needs to be addressed, that
Speaker 1: it's taking off his life of its own. And That's
Speaker 1: how it made me feel. And so I'm an open person,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, let's talk about it, because I
Speaker 1: even though I was upset and my character was getting question,
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me make you guys feel better, so
Speaker 1: that you know that you didn't come here for somebody
Speaker 1: who wasn't genuine. Like my first thought was the guys, like,
Speaker 1: please know that this is not true. I'm a genuine person.
Speaker 1: But then when I, like, you said back, like when
Speaker 1: I opened it up, and that first time I did
Speaker 1: open it up, like there were crickets and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: Like if we're talking at the house then and we're
Speaker 1: saying these things and we should be able to talk
Speaker 1: about it. But after that moment, you know, I responded
Speaker 1: how I responded. Nobody said much at all. There was
Speaker 1: very much a lack of response, and then you know,
Speaker 1: moving forward, watching it back, it's like they all were
Speaker 1: talking to each other like I'm really confused, like who
Speaker 1: said this, which is understandable, But then they could have
Speaker 1: also did that right there, and then you know, like me,
Speaker 1: I guess I would have said I would have appreciated
Speaker 1: it if they would have been like, okay, like what
Speaker 1: are we talking about? And then I'm like cool, like yeah,
Speaker 1: let's have a round table discussion about it. Does any
Speaker 1: part of you a very good point? That's a very
Speaker 1: good point now watching it back, and obviously hindsight is
Speaker 1: always twenty twenty. Do you wish at that moment when
Speaker 1: you did it, open it up and leave it, you know,
Speaker 1: open and in discussion and let them ask you questions.
Speaker 1: Do you wish you would have brought up Jamie, like
Speaker 1: you know, Jamie, you came to me, you were very
Speaker 1: open about having this conversation. You made it seem like
Speaker 1: multiple men in the house we're talking about this, like
Speaker 1: what's going on? Do you wish that just would have
Speaker 1: like cakes started that entire conversation more because we have
Speaker 1: to see it ended now where all of the men
Speaker 1: are still very confused, and it seems like they're going
Speaker 1: to be confused Quinn into next week now. It's it's
Speaker 1: so hard when you're in like the seat where like
Speaker 1: someone is bringing something and confiding in you and tell
Speaker 1: you a piece of information. It's like, yes, we are
Speaker 1: all the adults and we should be able to talk
Speaker 1: about it. But at the moment when it was brought
Speaker 1: to my attention, it came off very tasteful, and I
Speaker 1: guess I wanted to keep that confidentiality on my part,
Speaker 1: whereas if Jamie would have been like, hey, yeah, we
Speaker 1: did talk about this and this is what I'm referring to.
Speaker 1: It was hard to jump in that way right away,
Speaker 1: Like the first person who tells you something, it's like,
Speaker 1: we have this discussion and I'm like, boom, tell me
Speaker 1: what you said, tell everybody what you can try out
Speaker 1: into the Wolves. I was trying to like navigate that,
Speaker 1: and I think like as the season goes on, I
Speaker 1: get better at doing that and being very honest. But
Speaker 1: I was definitely trying to figure that part of the
Speaker 1: roll out still. I mean, I definitely feel okay. So
Speaker 1: number one, we could always say like I wish I
Speaker 1: would have done this, but when you're in that situation,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to navigate those waters. But also almost
Speaker 1: feel like it was an abuse of power on his end,
Speaker 1: like he had made his way into your heart, he
Speaker 1: had the first one on one, he had this vulnerability
Speaker 1: with you. You guys had created a like established a
Speaker 1: connection to where you can open up. And you're right,
Speaker 1: he did come to you in a very like quote
Speaker 1: unquote tasteful way, Like it wasn't like this like you
Speaker 1: need to go talk to this guy, and like it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I just need to know I've walked
Speaker 1: into and this is the line that kills me. I've
Speaker 1: walked into several conversations you know this week about like
Speaker 1: what's going on between blah blah. And so he really
Speaker 1: made it to make it was an issue amongst all
Speaker 1: of the men. And then and I could see how
Speaker 1: like when you do address the guys, you do kind
Speaker 1: of you know, honor him and kind of keep that
Speaker 1: private to yourself because you have that rapport with him,
Speaker 1: you have that established connection. And it's just really sad
Speaker 1: that he kind of abused that. But I guess that
Speaker 1: just yeah, you're completely right. It was like this level
Speaker 1: of connection, the types of conversations we had on our
Speaker 1: first one on one we're really just vulnerable, intense conversations.
Speaker 1: And he was so honest and open about everything that
Speaker 1: he's been through, and he's been through a lot, and
Speaker 1: I hearing his words and then my perspective of things
Speaker 1: as I mean, he could he could visibly see me
Speaker 1: hurting when he was telling you that my character is
Speaker 1: being questioned, and then to go back and say, like
Speaker 1: she Na, we've engaged something here, like we're not on
Speaker 1: the same page anyway, especially when he knew he lied.
Speaker 1: That's not cool. It was my opinion. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: and I've said this for you know, any episode, any season.
Speaker 1: There's so much more that none of us are pretty too.
Speaker 1: You know. Now now is when you're listening to all
Speaker 1: of the interviews back and you're seeing the private conversations
Speaker 1: between the men back like this is the first time
Speaker 1: for you too, And so I'm sure you know because
Speaker 1: you're viewing it alongside up, like it's stirring up different
Speaker 1: emotions as you go along. I obviously I have no
Speaker 1: idea what happens next week. I hope that at some
Speaker 1: point he apologizes for that because it put you in
Speaker 1: such a difficult situation where ultimately you did end up
Speaker 1: canceling the cocktail party going into that row ceremony. Then
Speaker 1: after you finished the night early, did you just like,
Speaker 1: how were you feeling just unsettled? Obviously you mentioned like
Speaker 1: the guards were close to coming up again, Like what
Speaker 1: were you feeling in those moments at that night? I
Speaker 1: was just feeling exhausted, honestly, And yes, I mean I
Speaker 1: am a person who pushes their exhaustion and like I
Speaker 1: always want to be there for other people, give everything
Speaker 1: that I have, and in that moment, I was like,
Speaker 1: I've nothing less in the tank right now. Within the conversations,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be present, but all the conversations you know,
Speaker 1: would soon start to right and become about this topic
Speaker 1: that I tried to open the panel up too, and
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about really much at all, and so
Speaker 1: um so with that, going into it, I went off
Speaker 1: of where my heart was at and which people I
Speaker 1: felt like believed in me from our conversations, um, which
Speaker 1: people I felt like I had a connection with, and
Speaker 1: then you know, using that to make my decisions, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that every man who went home that
Speaker 1: week is somebody who was questioning my character. But you
Speaker 1: know it just played into the level of connections and
Speaker 1: my comfort. Listen, we get it, two best us. Those
Speaker 1: Sometimes those nights are hard where you're still there's still
Speaker 1: a lot of people that you don't really know, and
Speaker 1: you just have to go off that gut instinct. Yes,
Speaker 1: m m. Well, let's look, let's let's talk about what
Speaker 1: we're going to be looking forward to in episode three.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to come. What's coming can we expect?
Speaker 1: I mean, Michelle Young gets her bachelorette legs underneath there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, I really start to become more honest
Speaker 1: with what I am needing from these guys. And group
Speaker 1: dates are definitely a heavy task. They're uncomfortable, but when
Speaker 1: you're trying to get engaged at the end of this, like,
Speaker 1: they have to be productive and so you're going to
Speaker 1: kind of see me battle back and forth with that
Speaker 1: and kind of just figure out what I need, what
Speaker 1: I'm getting, what I'm not getting, And drama always the drama. Well,
Speaker 1: I did want to ask is earlier when you were
Speaker 1: answering one of the questions. You said you were still
Speaker 1: trying to find your Batchelrette footing, which I totally get.
Speaker 1: I think any of us can attest to that. Like
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks is fun and nerve racking
Speaker 1: and the anticipation of what's to come, like that's all
Speaker 1: so much. But when did you feel like you fully
Speaker 1: like found your footing where you're like, Okay, I got this,
Speaker 1: I have the hang of things now, like I'm finding
Speaker 1: my voice, I'm finding my way. I honestly felt really
Speaker 1: good during cocktail parties, during after parties, during one on ones.
Speaker 1: It was a group dates that was the real stinger
Speaker 1: for me because just past experiences and other emotions that
Speaker 1: come from that kind of started to bubble to the
Speaker 1: surface a little bit with just how group dates were going,
Speaker 1: and it took me a minute to find my footing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was my footing to find basically,
Speaker 1: going into that first week on group dates, the guys
Speaker 1: really struggled to make connections during a group date, and
Speaker 1: I really brought to the light that I I wasn't
Speaker 1: wanting attention. I was wanting them to go out of
Speaker 1: their way and like have a conversation with me because
Speaker 1: I felt like I was seeking the men out and
Speaker 1: having conversations and trying to get to know them, but
Speaker 1: when I didn't go over to them to start the conversation,
Speaker 1: they were hanging out with each other and wouldn't come
Speaker 1: over and talk to me. Whether that's they were nervous,
Speaker 1: they weren't trying to figure out, like they weren't able
Speaker 1: to you know, they were they were yes, and it
Speaker 1: was yeah, And I think that was like the hardest
Speaker 1: thing where I'm like, I need to see that you
Speaker 1: want to continue to get to know me during these
Speaker 1: group dates, Like you can't just think on the after
Speaker 1: party time. That's not how this works because group dates,
Speaker 1: like you spend a lot of time in group dates.
Speaker 1: That's precious time. And I kind of had asked for that,
Speaker 1: asked for that, asked for that, and it wasn't being reciprocated.
Speaker 1: And then there's definitely a moment where it just kind
Speaker 1: of hits me and yeah, it's it's tough stuff. Group
Speaker 1: dates are really tough to juggle, and it's for the
Speaker 1: guys but also for you. And like you're saying, like
Speaker 1: I feel like they your dates are really fun because
Speaker 1: there's like a lot going on, and the guys can
Speaker 1: kind of be silly, but then there's like romance almost
Speaker 1: happens and you're like, Okay, that's all fun in games.
Speaker 1: But like you, I think and I think you were
Speaker 1: kind of experiencing that a little bit. And like the guys,
Speaker 1: whether it be let's just say, they were a little
Speaker 1: intimated or like they didn't know what they could go,
Speaker 1: like come up to you and just like have a conversation,
Speaker 1: like they need to make the most of every single
Speaker 1: moment they have as opposed to like you were saying,
Speaker 1: just the cocktail parties at night, and you were kind
Speaker 1: of experiencing that back to back to back, and it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, okay, so do you really want
Speaker 1: to try or do you need to constantly have me
Speaker 1: come up to you? And I think that that's something
Speaker 1: that was really frustrating because also what female, what woman
Speaker 1: wants to vocalize that, you know, like, Hi, I'm still
Speaker 1: over here by myself, you all are romancing over there.
Speaker 1: It's just it was I think it was really frustrating
Speaker 1: for you. It was really hard. But I'm glad you
Speaker 1: spoke up because I think it changed after that. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: definitely it. Did you ever feel like, because you know,
Speaker 1: and this is something I struggled with just in my
Speaker 1: time a couple years ago, Tation, maybe you felt this
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm not sure, But because you are
Speaker 1: the bout shurette and you were announced pretty early, like
Speaker 1: back in March, so all of the men coming onto
Speaker 1: the season knew you were going to be the bout shirrette,
Speaker 1: so they of course could do their homework and research
Speaker 1: and get to know you when your interests. Obviously we
Speaker 1: saw Ryan do that night one, but I'm sure he
Speaker 1: wasn't the only guy to kind of google you or
Speaker 1: look you up or creep on your Instagram, whatever it
Speaker 1: might be. But did you ever feel like because of
Speaker 1: that that the guys weren't necessarily asking you the right
Speaker 1: direct questions to get to know you. Did you feel
Speaker 1: like they already just kind of assumed they knew you
Speaker 1: and they were having you do the heavy lift you
Speaker 1: did in the work to ask them everything. I think.
Speaker 1: I think the first night was more where the guys
Speaker 1: were sharing so much about themselves and really wanted to
Speaker 1: make that connection just because you almost have to. It's
Speaker 1: like speed dating in a way. It's like this is
Speaker 1: what I have to offer. I only have a few
Speaker 1: minutes with you, and I know you're gonna make it
Speaker 1: into the decisions like this is where my mind's at,
Speaker 1: and like I totally get that. I will say that
Speaker 1: I did feel like my guys truly wanted to know
Speaker 1: who I was. And they knew that I was a teacher,
Speaker 1: and they knew that I played sports in those things
Speaker 1: and they loved those things about me. But they did
Speaker 1: during after parties and during cocktail parties and one on
Speaker 1: one days, I feel like they really did want to
Speaker 1: go pass that level and they really wanted to know
Speaker 1: who I was as a person, and I felt like
Speaker 1: they were able to do the heavy lifting during those parts.
Speaker 1: I just wanted more of that during the group date
Speaker 1: as well, you know, not so much like we are
Speaker 1: now doing to handle it like well, dribbling and that's
Speaker 1: all you're thinking about, that's all you're doing. It's just, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to interact a little bit, you know exactly,
Speaker 1: and you want to feel pursued. You are about cheurette,
Speaker 1: to be honest, and yeah, it's it's it's tough when
Speaker 1: the men, of course they live together, they spend much
Speaker 1: more time, especially upfront, with each other than they do
Speaker 1: with you, and so maybe it was just more of
Speaker 1: a comfort thing. I mean, I'm excited to see it
Speaker 1: all unfold and to see you put these men in
Speaker 1: their place, Michelle. Eventually it's gonna be so good. Impatient
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time, and then you know,
Speaker 1: and then I'm not patient, and then I'm done geting cretient.
Speaker 1: So of this season with no spoilers, because we've only
Speaker 1: seen two episodes and we still have a lot more
Speaker 1: to con what so far has been your rose and
Speaker 1: your thorn. My rose would definitely be the effort that
Speaker 1: was put in tonight one, with all of the different
Speaker 1: ways that these men showed up and showed their personality,
Speaker 1: and my thorn would be having to cancel the cocktail
Speaker 1: party because my character is a question. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'd have to agree with you. You're into that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Not all right, Michelle. I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like I miss you. I could keep talking to you
Speaker 1: for hours, but you are a very busy woman these days.
Speaker 1: So before we let you go, we love to play
Speaker 1: games with all of our guests. So we're gonna play
Speaker 1: a little game called this or that bob Shret's only game.
Speaker 1: So basically, we're going to ask you a situation that
Speaker 1: only us, as bob Shrets, we probably know how to handle.
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be interesting because it's gonna just
Speaker 1: be rapid fires. So we'll give you this or that,
Speaker 1: just you know, whatever you're feeling in the moment, just say,
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how it would line
Speaker 1: up with how tatian I would answer. So I'll just
Speaker 1: kick it up. So this or that? Would you rather
Speaker 1: send someone home at a row ceremony or on a
Speaker 1: one on one date row ceremony? Oh everyone on the
Speaker 1: first night, or have a few meaningful kisses, meaningful kusses,
Speaker 1: break up with someone or be broken up with broken
Speaker 1: up with you. I'll take the fall the time of
Speaker 1: the season too. I'm like I'm sweating, I'm already. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see watch fireworks or a surprise concert, surprise concert,
Speaker 1: head on the platter or no pants? Um? Would you
Speaker 1: rather take your men on a physical date or a
Speaker 1: date where they have to perform? Physical date? Perform how
Speaker 1: so like like put on an act, sing a song silly,
Speaker 1: you know, like really put them out there. Okay, actually
Speaker 1: perform I'm changing my answer. Okay, two different light all right,
Speaker 1: Apta and Caitlin on a group date or at the
Speaker 1: Rose ceremony group date. You need your girls, let's go
Speaker 1: We're an extravagant dress or something more simple. Simple share
Speaker 1: something personal with a guy, or have them share something
Speaker 1: personal with you, Have them share something personal with me.
Speaker 1: I love that. Give a guy the group date Rose
Speaker 1: or the Frost. Give a guy a group date Rose
Speaker 1: or the first Rose at the ceremony group date Rose. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but honestly, people us until like whose name is called
Speaker 1: first at the roast ceremony by the way, Like it's
Speaker 1: like a thing too. I mean, don't you remember. Oh
Speaker 1: I never realized until people started calling it out. And
Speaker 1: but you can kind of tell Michelle. I can so
Speaker 1: tell who you're into already. And I don't know spoilers
Speaker 1: or anything. It is so apparent to me, finals like, oh,
Speaker 1: she is into this guy or she is not into
Speaker 1: this one. I think it changes though. I think she
Speaker 1: does a really good job. But yeah, I do. I
Speaker 1: open up and it's like yes, at the beginning, like
Speaker 1: that initial attraction, but there are definitely multiple men who
Speaker 1: surprised me. And I'm like din out, where where did
Speaker 1: you come from? Your credit? You're really good about being
Speaker 1: very attentive to each and every conversation, like and I
Speaker 1: get it. I remember like there were nights square because
Speaker 1: they go so late, they're so long, there's so many conversations.
Speaker 1: You're trying to remember information for each man man, and
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to compartmentalize at times. But you
Speaker 1: are very good about being so alert, attentive, kind to
Speaker 1: each and every man and every every conversation that you're
Speaker 1: having so far. And I mean, maybe it's just because
Speaker 1: you're incredible human because you're a teacher and you have
Speaker 1: to already deal with thirty plus students. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you are. You're crushed it so far at dispatchword thing.
Speaker 1: You really are. Yeah. I feel like there's nothing worse
Speaker 1: so than like being in a conversation with someone and
Speaker 1: them not like not feeling like they're listening or in
Speaker 1: that conversation. Yeah, I mean there were definitely times where
Speaker 1: I feel like I accidentally like flip flop things, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I can remember that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the other one, that's the other moving on. I've been there,
Speaker 1: done that's not a good look. Did you ever forget?
Speaker 1: Did you ever forget anyone's name? I didn't get On
Speaker 1: the first night, Spencer walked in and I called him
Speaker 1: a different name, and I'm like, names are so important,
Speaker 1: like and I said it confidently, like I don't know
Speaker 1: whose name he said. But they walked in and I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I was like, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's Spencer. I'm like, oh, we all have
Speaker 1: been there, we get it. Michelle. It has been such
Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure. I hope I'm well, I'm not hoping.
Speaker 1: I know we'll have you on later in the season,
Speaker 1: but until then, we understand that you are a crazy,
Speaker 1: busy woman. You have so much point on. There were
Speaker 1: so many other people that you'd probably be rather having
Speaker 1: conversations with right now. So we're gonna let you go,
Speaker 1: but we absolutely love you. Thank you for joining Happy
Speaker 1: Hour today. I love you, guys, and I will talk
Speaker 1: to you soon. See you, Lata. I love Michelle and
Speaker 1: I love seeing the bonds that you have with her too,
Speaker 1: Like you can just tell that she feels comfortable with you.
Speaker 1: It's like just like a girl's night where we can
Speaker 1: just chit chat and you know, share some tea. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I have to say, like it was like a pleasure
Speaker 1: I get to know her, and the fact that we
Speaker 1: were able to open up with each other and just
Speaker 1: like really create that relationship is amazing. And I think
Speaker 1: the Duchess really helps her journey, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to help her a little bit more because I
Speaker 1: get to know her and she truly is amazing. And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie I felt really left out that
Speaker 1: I'm not from freaking Minnesota. I'm like, I want to
Speaker 1: start like saying my as like you guys like, I
Speaker 1: don't whatever. I'm coming to Minnesota and visiting both of
Speaker 1: you because I'm gonna be the honorary sister. Okay, Dasha
Speaker 1: you are. I'm just gonna drag you back with me.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go hang out. Well, I know you were
Speaker 1: there for a few weeks. I'm Michelle Season, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna give you like the real hometown tour, so just
Speaker 1: see away. You are in for a treat. A huge, huge,
Speaker 1: huge thank you to Michelle for joining us today. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that she was able to pop on, Like
Speaker 1: I know, her schedules so insanely packed right now, so
Speaker 1: the fact that she could be with us for an
Speaker 1: hour just means the world. So thank you, Michelle, and
Speaker 1: a huge thank you to all of our Bachelor Happy
Speaker 1: Our listeners. We can't wait to do the rest of
Speaker 1: the season alongside of you and have you tune in
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