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Speaker 1: What is a Bachelor? Happy Hour listeners, We had another

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Speaker 1: episode for Michelle's season in the books, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of Herself today. But I have my girl Tasia back

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Speaker 1: with me. Thanks for joining again, Tasia. Absolutely hello, Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour listeners. I am so excited to be back and

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Speaker 1: give you all a little tea and inside scoop about

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Speaker 1: this season. But you're right, I am so freaking excited.

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Speaker 1: We have the woman of the hour. Our special guest

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Speaker 1: today is a bachelor at Michelle Herself joining us, and

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to pick her brain about everything that's

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Speaker 1: been going down. Oh my gosh, same, I've missed this one.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to have her on. I know usually

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Speaker 1: to us. But I figured this week, why do we

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Speaker 1: about down last night. I do have some questions about

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Speaker 1: because I know all of our listeners are just dying

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Speaker 1: to hear from her right now. Yeah, I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: bring her on. We got Minnesota in the house. Michelle,

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Speaker 1: the woman of the hour of this season, my Midwest girl.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you here. Welcome to baut

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Speaker 1: your happy hour. Thank you, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's so nice to be back on for anyone who

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Speaker 1: can't see you, because obviously this is a podcast and

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Speaker 1: we're all listening. Michelle is glowing. Michelle, you look absolutely stunning.

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Speaker 1: We need to just tell you how good you looked

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Speaker 1: in these first couple episodes. It's incredible, incredible, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: And like we've Tachion, I have obviously met you in person,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you are our Bachelor Edge. How

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Speaker 1: have you been now that it's finally airing and the

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Speaker 1: But you know, Tasian, I have talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: when is it kicking in? Like when does it kick

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Speaker 1: of a deal. At the time when Will wrote Peter's name,

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00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: I was so hard as I don't know, like I

430
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: and I still didn't know their relationship up until that point.

431
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: But also we're just getting started, and I felt like

432
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: everyone was fairly playful with each other. I mean, they

433
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: their guys. They call each other out, but they laugh,

434
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: and that one hit home for Peter and that's kind

435
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: of why there was that reaction, and then it just

436
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: continued to snowball into this, like into that evening. But

437
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: at that time I didn't really see too much by it.

438
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Although I feel like Mia, one of the kids by me,

439
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: like she like looked at me. I was like, didn't that.

440
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: So the kids picked up on it right right, it

441
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: was interesting. I felt like, yeah, as a viewer or

442
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, it was lighthearted again, like it's kind of

443
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 1: a competition. You want to still make your name and

444
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: stand out in a way. And I really didn't think

445
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: it was that big of a deal. So when I

446
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: saw them yelling at each other as you were trying

447
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: to have a nice conversation with another man and you

448
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: can hear them yelling behind you, I'm like, you guys,

449
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: it's too early for this. This is just the first date.

450
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Come on, people, so sunny. I was like looking around,

451
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: like who is talking? It was like, oh my god, wait,

452
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: are those that guys in the background. I literally did

453
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: not know that was so loud. I didn't know either, though.

454
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: It took me. It really did take me a minute

455
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: because it was the first it was literally the first

456
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: group date. Yeah, and I'm sitting there talking to Olu

457
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: and I do hear it, but I also felt like

458
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: it was a really loud group of guys and they

459
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: would like banter back and forth. They would laugh with

460
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: each other. They six times, and so that felt like

461
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: that was going on. And then I saw it in

462
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: OHL's eyes where he was like, oh and hearing it.

463
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm like that yelling and he's like, yeah, it is

464
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: so old coming in conversation. Already knew that there was

465
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: beef between Willie Beaterer. Yeah, got it, got it. It's

466
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: always like kind of I remember being back in that

467
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: position where you can hear the guys and you know,

468
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: sometimes tensions are high, but like when you actually hear

469
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: the fighting or you hear from the other guys what's

470
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: going on. I just remember laughing, being like, is this

471
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: what we're fighting? What is this the drama right now?

472
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: But it's always fun to get like the snippets from

473
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: other people and then to see it all unfold on TV,

474
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: it seems way more. You're extreme and heightened. Okay, I'm

475
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: totally going off tangent here, but I need to ask you.

476
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: I need to go back to Night one and all

477
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: of this Ryan stuff when Tasia and Caitlin confront of you,

478
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: because Michelle, first of all, I'm so glad that you

479
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: just seleb rate through the BS and sent him home.

480
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: I have to say I knew Ryan beforehand, and so

481
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: for him to be like, oh, I have no idea

482
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: what the Bachelor world. He was our bachelor for Bachelor

483
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: Live on stage about a year and alow two years ago,

484
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and he was like he knew a lot about the show.

485
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: He had like all this knowledge bank about everything, was

486
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: like very invested, and so when he was trying to

487
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: lie to you, I'm literally yelling through my screen of

488
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: like that's oh shit, don't lie to her mind. Okay.

489
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: I just talked to Ben Hans about this and he

490
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: mentioned that he was on your show when you guys

491
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: were doing that like traveling me and I was like, oh,

492
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: interesting and whatever, But for whatever reason, I didn't put

493
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: it together that that whole piece added on top of

494
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: it was when he was talking about being a part

495
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor world and how he had no idea

496
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: because wow, yeah, so that's just the whole add it

497
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: like again, like you put all these pieces together. There

498
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: was just so much drama with that where I'm like,

499
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: this is not this is not how you want to

500
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: start a relationship, right it was. It was just so

501
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: much information and even honestly, even the papers aside, even

502
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: like the information that I had found aside. When I

503
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: go back and have watched it, it's like in a conversation,

504
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I felt like he contradicted himself so many times that

505
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: that complication standing by itself, it's like, you're not a

506
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: bad person. I'm not sure where this is coming from,

507
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: the dishonesty, but it's not where I'm putting my energy. Nope.

508
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, let's just call it as it is.

509
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: He's a bad apple, and honey, we're only looking for

510
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: the good apples. So speaking of apples, okay, can we

511
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: talk about Rodney's apple taste test because I'm not can

512
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: you what? I was laughing so hard. This man is hilarious,

513
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: but I need to know he really mixed up the

514
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: Granny Smith in the Fuji apple. Yes, this man doesn't apples. Yes,

515
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: this man does not know his apples. I mean the

516
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: fact that he called himself Granny Smith right off the bat.

517
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this a red flag? Is it not?

518
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: Bit into a green apple? And he didn't well going

519
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: into that apple taste testing. I swear if he bit

520
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: into a red apple, he identified it as some type

521
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: of green apple yellow delicious, and then vice versa, like

522
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: when he bit into the Red Delicious, like, oh, that's

523
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: a Granny Smith. I'm like that could not be farther

524
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: from the truth. And then it just completely finished it

525
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: out perfectly when I sat him a piece of pizza

526
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: and he was like lasagna and I'm like, it has

527
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: no idea. I like Rodney. We actually had Nate on

528
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: last week's podcasts and he had nothing but great fun

529
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: stories about Rodney. So I will say I'm excited to

530
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: see more of him. His taste buds might be off,

531
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: but he is entertainment for us viewers and I'm here

532
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: for it. Absolutely. Let's get into the end of the episode,

533
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: because that's where most of the drama was, right and

534
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, we saw since the beginning you have like

535
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: this this weird history with the dms with Joe. You know,

536
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of that lingering storyline and obviously now fed

537
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: into your first week of dates and into your first

538
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: cocktail party. What were you going through that night of

539
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: the row ceremony, you know, hearing what was going on,

540
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: hearing what Jamie brought to your attention, and ultimately deciding

541
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: to cancel that cocktail party, Like talk us through that

542
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: night in your mind, coming and taking the role as

543
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: like the bachelor atte Like, you know there's going to

544
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: be drama. You know that there's going to be highs,

545
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: you know that there's gonna be lows and all these

546
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: different things. But I think one thing that I really

547
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: talked to Taship, I was just like, there's these moments

548
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I have no idea who would trust

549
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: And that was definitely that moment where when Jamie sat

550
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: down and spoke to me about what he was hearing

551
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: and his perspective of things, it kind of launched everything

552
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: in the air, and not so much where I turned around,

553
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: and I was upset where like, who's questioning me? I mean,

554
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit, but like all these different

555
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to think. I didn't know

556
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: what to believe. I was upset that my character was

557
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: even being question because I was like, what do you say?

558
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a good birth and I feel

559
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: like that's shown, like why are we questioning my character

560
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: like this? But also just not knowing who believes in you?

561
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: And I've been in relationships where I've my partner didn't

562
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: believe in me, and that was really difficult. And so

563
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: you're trying to stay vulner when you're trying to stay

564
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: open and there's all these different layers that you're trying

565
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: to like navigate and figure out who believes in me.

566
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: I just met all these guys. I don't know who

567
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: believes in me. I don't know who's telling me the truth.

568
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: And so it's a hard moment where you actually feel

569
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: kind of lonely. Yeah. I remember talking to outside and

570
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: you don't really see our conversation at all, but I

571
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: just remember, like that really upsetting you and you feeling like, look,

572
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything that I'm supposed to be doing. Like

573
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: my walls are down. I'm being as vulnerable as I

574
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: possibly can. I'm being as honest as I can. Like

575
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: him and I had exchange dms, but that was the

576
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: extent of us ever being involved with each other. And

577
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: I just remember you feeling like I don't know who

578
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: to trust and that's a very scary place for me

579
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: to be in. And it broke my heart hearing you,

580
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: like even in your interview and talking to the guys,

581
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: just saying like I really want to put those walls

582
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: back up right now, and it's the very beginning of

583
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: your journey, and for someone just to kind of create

584
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: this storyline, it just really frustrated me just to watch

585
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: you go through that. But I think you handle it

586
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: so well and I'm happy that hopefully you watching it back,

587
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: you can kind of understand that it was literally just

588
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: Jamie and not really the rest of the guys. Like

589
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: you guys were like, I'm sorry, it is what just happened.

590
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: Like I know, when I was watching it back, I'm like, okay,

591
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean, okay, I got it. I

592
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: wasn't so off, but it definitely is. It's like, I'm

593
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: not a person who reacts to a lot or even

594
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: is did buy a lot of drama. But I think

595
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: the one thing that really got to me was the

596
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: questioning of character. I think that I think could have

597
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: gotten to me like it would be that and so

598
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't like this thing of like I'm quitting, I'm done.

599
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: I was like whoa where? Like where do I even

600
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: go from here? It's like me physically feeling like I'm

601
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: like shoving these walls back down because I didn't want

602
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: to talk to anybody. I you know, well and correct

603
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But I feel like just from

604
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: watching it, because to add at quotation said, I think

605
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: you handled that situation very maturely. You went to the

606
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: group of men, you had them all sit down, you

607
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: addressed it. You kind of gave the context of you know,

608
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: look my characters being questioned. Right now, here's the minimal

609
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: history that Joe and I had, you know, between a

610
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: couple dms. That's really not that big of a deal.

611
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: But I think the part that got me, and if

612
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I was in your position, I would have been frustrated with,

613
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: is the fact that you then opened it up for

614
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: questions and opened it up for this dialogue for any

615
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: of these twenty five or however many you had at

616
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: the time, men to ask you about it, to talk

617
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: to each other about it, and they just all shut

618
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: down and no one even you know, it was crickets.

619
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: And so for you to be that vulnerable, to be like,

620
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: this isn't an easy position to be in. I probably

621
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: don't want to be addressed in this right now. But

622
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: here you go, like, let's open up the floor and

623
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: no one said a damn thing, and you're I could

624
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: totally see why you're just like, okay, did I'm out

625
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: of here right now? Like I would have totally reacted

626
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: the same way. I would have probably won the canceled

627
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: the cocktail party, because at that point, it's like you

628
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to talk to me or to each

629
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: other and you chose not to. So like, why are

630
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: we going to keep this going any longer if we

631
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: don't have to? Was it? Two part questions? So for you,

632
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: what was that like in your head? And what were

633
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: you going through when you did open the floor up

634
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: and no one said anything? And then to now watch

635
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: it back and kind of see how you know, Jamie

636
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: confronted you and he had no problem bringing that to

637
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: your attention. But then totally shut down and took no

638
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: accountability in front of the men for what he did.

639
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: It was a confusing moment, and watching it back, I

640
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: can see why I was confused, because they were like

641
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: truly two different storylines that were going on. And so

642
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: in that moment when I'm asking, you know it was?

643
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: It was? It was brought to my attention in this

644
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: very pointing manner that it needs to be addressed, that

645
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: it's taking off his life of its own. And That's

646
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: how it made me feel. And so I'm an open person,

647
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, let's talk about it, because I

648
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: even though I was upset and my character was getting question,

649
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me make you guys feel better, so

650
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: that you know that you didn't come here for somebody

651
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: who wasn't genuine. Like my first thought was the guys, like,

652
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: please know that this is not true. I'm a genuine person.

653
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: But then when I, like, you said back, like when

654
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: I opened it up, and that first time I did

655
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: open it up, like there were crickets and I'm like, okay,

656
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: Like if we're talking at the house then and we're

657
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: saying these things and we should be able to talk

658
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: about it. But after that moment, you know, I responded

659
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: how I responded. Nobody said much at all. There was

660
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: very much a lack of response, and then you know,

661
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: moving forward, watching it back, it's like they all were

662
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: talking to each other like I'm really confused, like who

663
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: said this, which is understandable, But then they could have

664
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: also did that right there, and then you know, like me,

665
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: I guess I would have said I would have appreciated

666
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: it if they would have been like, okay, like what

667
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: are we talking about? And then I'm like cool, like yeah,

668
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: let's have a round table discussion about it. Does any

669
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: part of you a very good point? That's a very

670
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: good point now watching it back, and obviously hindsight is

671
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: always twenty twenty. Do you wish at that moment when

672
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: you did it, open it up and leave it, you know,

673
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: open and in discussion and let them ask you questions.

674
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Do you wish you would have brought up Jamie, like

675
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, Jamie, you came to me, you were very

676
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: open about having this conversation. You made it seem like

677
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: multiple men in the house we're talking about this, like

678
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: what's going on? Do you wish that just would have

679
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: like cakes started that entire conversation more because we have

680
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: to see it ended now where all of the men

681
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: are still very confused, and it seems like they're going

682
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: to be confused Quinn into next week now. It's it's

683
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: so hard when you're in like the seat where like

684
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: someone is bringing something and confiding in you and tell

685
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: you a piece of information. It's like, yes, we are

686
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: all the adults and we should be able to talk

687
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 1: about it. But at the moment when it was brought

688
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: to my attention, it came off very tasteful, and I

689
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: guess I wanted to keep that confidentiality on my part,

690
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: whereas if Jamie would have been like, hey, yeah, we

691
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: did talk about this and this is what I'm referring to.

692
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: It was hard to jump in that way right away,

693
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Like the first person who tells you something, it's like,

694
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: we have this discussion and I'm like, boom, tell me

695
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: what you said, tell everybody what you can try out

696
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: into the Wolves. I was trying to like navigate that,

697
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: and I think like as the season goes on, I

698
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: get better at doing that and being very honest. But

699
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: I was definitely trying to figure that part of the

700
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: roll out still. I mean, I definitely feel okay. So

701
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: number one, we could always say like I wish I

702
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: would have done this, but when you're in that situation,

703
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: it's so hard to navigate those waters. But also almost

704
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: feel like it was an abuse of power on his end,

705
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: like he had made his way into your heart, he

706
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: had the first one on one, he had this vulnerability

707
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: with you. You guys had created a like established a

708
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: connection to where you can open up. And you're right,

709
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: he did come to you in a very like quote

710
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: unquote tasteful way, Like it wasn't like this like you

711
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: need to go talk to this guy, and like it

712
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I just need to know I've walked

713
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: into and this is the line that kills me. I've

714
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: walked into several conversations you know this week about like

715
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: what's going on between blah blah. And so he really

716
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: made it to make it was an issue amongst all

717
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: of the men. And then and I could see how

718
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: like when you do address the guys, you do kind

719
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: of you know, honor him and kind of keep that

720
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: private to yourself because you have that rapport with him,

721
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: you have that established connection. And it's just really sad

722
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: that he kind of abused that. But I guess that

723
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: just yeah, you're completely right. It was like this level

724
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: of connection, the types of conversations we had on our

725
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: first one on one we're really just vulnerable, intense conversations.

726
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: And he was so honest and open about everything that

727
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: he's been through, and he's been through a lot, and

728
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: I hearing his words and then my perspective of things

729
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: as I mean, he could he could visibly see me

730
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: hurting when he was telling you that my character is

731
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: being questioned, and then to go back and say, like

732
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: she Na, we've engaged something here, like we're not on

733
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: the same page anyway, especially when he knew he lied.

734
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: That's not cool. It was my opinion. Yeah, and it's

735
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: and I've said this for you know, any episode, any season.

736
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: There's so much more that none of us are pretty too.

737
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: You know. Now now is when you're listening to all

738
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: of the interviews back and you're seeing the private conversations

739
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: between the men back like this is the first time

740
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: for you too, And so I'm sure you know because

741
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: you're viewing it alongside up, like it's stirring up different

742
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: emotions as you go along. I obviously I have no

743
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: idea what happens next week. I hope that at some

744
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: point he apologizes for that because it put you in

745
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: such a difficult situation where ultimately you did end up

746
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: canceling the cocktail party going into that row ceremony. Then

747
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: after you finished the night early, did you just like,

748
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: how were you feeling just unsettled? Obviously you mentioned like

749
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: the guards were close to coming up again, Like what

750
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: were you feeling in those moments at that night? I

751
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: was just feeling exhausted, honestly, And yes, I mean I

752
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: am a person who pushes their exhaustion and like I

753
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: always want to be there for other people, give everything

754
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: that I have, and in that moment, I was like,

755
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I've nothing less in the tank right now. Within the conversations,

756
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to be present, but all the conversations you know,

757
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: would soon start to right and become about this topic

758
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: that I tried to open the panel up too, and

759
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about really much at all, and so

760
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: um so with that, going into it, I went off

761
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: of where my heart was at and which people I

762
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: felt like believed in me from our conversations, um, which

763
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: people I felt like I had a connection with, and

764
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: then you know, using that to make my decisions, and

765
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that every man who went home that

766
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: week is somebody who was questioning my character. But you

767
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: know it just played into the level of connections and

768
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: my comfort. Listen, we get it, two best us. Those

769
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes those nights are hard where you're still there's still

770
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people that you don't really know, and

771
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: you just have to go off that gut instinct. Yes,

772
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: m m. Well, let's look, let's let's talk about what

773
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: we're going to be looking forward to in episode three.

774
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot to come. What's coming can we expect?

775
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Michelle Young gets her bachelorette legs underneath there. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: and you know, I really start to become more honest

777
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: with what I am needing from these guys. And group

778
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: dates are definitely a heavy task. They're uncomfortable, but when

779
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: you're trying to get engaged at the end of this, like,

780
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: they have to be productive and so you're going to

781
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: kind of see me battle back and forth with that

782
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: and kind of just figure out what I need, what

783
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting, what I'm not getting, And drama always the drama. Well,

784
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: I did want to ask is earlier when you were

785
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: answering one of the questions. You said you were still

786
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: trying to find your Batchelrette footing, which I totally get.

787
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I think any of us can attest to that. Like

788
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks is fun and nerve racking

789
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: and the anticipation of what's to come, like that's all

790
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: so much. But when did you feel like you fully

791
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: like found your footing where you're like, Okay, I got this,

792
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: I have the hang of things now, like I'm finding

793
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: my voice, I'm finding my way. I honestly felt really

794
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: good during cocktail parties, during after parties, during one on ones.

795
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: It was a group dates that was the real stinger

796
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: for me because just past experiences and other emotions that

797
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: come from that kind of started to bubble to the

798
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: surface a little bit with just how group dates were going,

799
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: and it took me a minute to find my footing.

800
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was my footing to find basically,

801
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: going into that first week on group dates, the guys

802
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: really struggled to make connections during a group date, and

803
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: I really brought to the light that I I wasn't

804
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: wanting attention. I was wanting them to go out of

805
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: their way and like have a conversation with me because

806
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: I felt like I was seeking the men out and

807
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: having conversations and trying to get to know them, but

808
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: when I didn't go over to them to start the conversation,

809
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: they were hanging out with each other and wouldn't come

810
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 1: over and talk to me. Whether that's they were nervous,

811
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: they weren't trying to figure out, like they weren't able

812
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: to you know, they were they were yes, and it

813
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: was yeah, And I think that was like the hardest

814
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: thing where I'm like, I need to see that you

815
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: want to continue to get to know me during these

816
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: group dates, Like you can't just think on the after

817
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: party time. That's not how this works because group dates,

818
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: like you spend a lot of time in group dates.

819
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: That's precious time. And I kind of had asked for that,

820
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: asked for that, asked for that, and it wasn't being reciprocated.

821
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: And then there's definitely a moment where it just kind

822
00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: of hits me and yeah, it's it's tough stuff. Group

823
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: dates are really tough to juggle, and it's for the

824
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: guys but also for you. And like you're saying, like

825
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: I feel like they your dates are really fun because

826
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: there's like a lot going on, and the guys can

827
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: kind of be silly, but then there's like romance almost

828
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: happens and you're like, Okay, that's all fun in games.

829
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: But like you, I think and I think you were

830
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of experiencing that a little bit. And like the guys,

831
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: whether it be let's just say, they were a little

832
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: intimated or like they didn't know what they could go,

833
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: like come up to you and just like have a conversation,

834
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: like they need to make the most of every single

835
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: moment they have as opposed to like you were saying,

836
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: just the cocktail parties at night, and you were kind

837
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: of experiencing that back to back to back, and it

838
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: was kind of like, okay, so do you really want

839
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: to try or do you need to constantly have me

840
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: come up to you? And I think that that's something

841
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: that was really frustrating because also what female, what woman

842
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: wants to vocalize that, you know, like, Hi, I'm still

843
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: over here by myself, you all are romancing over there.

844
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: It's just it was I think it was really frustrating

845
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: for you. It was really hard. But I'm glad you

846
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: spoke up because I think it changed after that. Yeah, definitely,

847
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: definitely it. Did you ever feel like, because you know,

848
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: and this is something I struggled with just in my

849
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: time a couple years ago, Tation, maybe you felt this

850
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm not sure, But because you are

851
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: the bout shurette and you were announced pretty early, like

852
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: back in March, so all of the men coming onto

853
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: the season knew you were going to be the bout shirrette,

854
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: so they of course could do their homework and research

855
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: and get to know you when your interests. Obviously we

856
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: saw Ryan do that night one, but I'm sure he

857
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: wasn't the only guy to kind of google you or

858
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: look you up or creep on your Instagram, whatever it

859
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: might be. But did you ever feel like because of

860
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: that that the guys weren't necessarily asking you the right

861
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: direct questions to get to know you. Did you feel

862
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: like they already just kind of assumed they knew you

863
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: and they were having you do the heavy lift you

864
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: did in the work to ask them everything. I think.

865
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I think the first night was more where the guys

866
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: were sharing so much about themselves and really wanted to

867
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: make that connection just because you almost have to. It's

868
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: like speed dating in a way. It's like this is

869
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: what I have to offer. I only have a few

870
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: minutes with you, and I know you're gonna make it

871
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: into the decisions like this is where my mind's at,

872
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: and like I totally get that. I will say that

873
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I did feel like my guys truly wanted to know

874
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: who I was. And they knew that I was a teacher,

875
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: and they knew that I played sports in those things

876
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 1: and they loved those things about me. But they did

877
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: during after parties and during cocktail parties and one on

878
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: one days, I feel like they really did want to

879
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: go pass that level and they really wanted to know

880
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: who I was as a person, and I felt like

881
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: they were able to do the heavy lifting during those parts.

882
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: I just wanted more of that during the group date

883
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: as well, you know, not so much like we are

884
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: now doing to handle it like well, dribbling and that's

885
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: all you're thinking about, that's all you're doing. It's just, yeah,

886
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: you want to interact a little bit, you know exactly,

887
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: and you want to feel pursued. You are about cheurette,

888
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: to be honest, and yeah, it's it's it's tough when

889
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: the men, of course they live together, they spend much

890
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: more time, especially upfront, with each other than they do

891
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: with you, and so maybe it was just more of

892
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: a comfort thing. I mean, I'm excited to see it

893
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: all unfold and to see you put these men in

894
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: their place, Michelle. Eventually it's gonna be so good. Impatient

895
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of time, and then you know,

896
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: and then I'm not patient, and then I'm done geting cretient.

897
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: So of this season with no spoilers, because we've only

898
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: seen two episodes and we still have a lot more

899
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: to con what so far has been your rose and

900
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: your thorn. My rose would definitely be the effort that

901
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: was put in tonight one, with all of the different

902
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: ways that these men showed up and showed their personality,

903
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: and my thorn would be having to cancel the cocktail

904
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: party because my character is a question. Yeah, I think

905
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: I'd have to agree with you. You're into that kind

906
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: of thing. Not all right, Michelle. I mean, I feel

907
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: like I miss you. I could keep talking to you

908
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: for hours, but you are a very busy woman these days.

909
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: So before we let you go, we love to play

910
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: games with all of our guests. So we're gonna play

911
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: a little game called this or that bob Shret's only game.

912
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: So basically, we're going to ask you a situation that

913
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: only us, as bob Shrets, we probably know how to handle.

914
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be interesting because it's gonna just

915
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: be rapid fires. So we'll give you this or that,

916
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: just you know, whatever you're feeling in the moment, just say,

917
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how it would line

918
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: up with how tatian I would answer. So I'll just

919
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: kick it up. So this or that? Would you rather

920
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: send someone home at a row ceremony or on a

921
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: one on one date row ceremony? Oh everyone on the

922
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: first night, or have a few meaningful kisses, meaningful kusses,

923
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: break up with someone or be broken up with broken

924
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: up with you. I'll take the fall the time of

925
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: the season too. I'm like I'm sweating, I'm already. Okay,

926
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: let's see watch fireworks or a surprise concert, surprise concert,

927
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: head on the platter or no pants? Um? Would you

928
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: rather take your men on a physical date or a

929
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: date where they have to perform? Physical date? Perform how

930
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: so like like put on an act, sing a song silly,

931
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, like really put them out there. Okay, actually

932
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: perform I'm changing my answer. Okay, two different light all right,

933
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: Apta and Caitlin on a group date or at the

934
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: Rose ceremony group date. You need your girls, let's go

935
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: We're an extravagant dress or something more simple. Simple share

936
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: something personal with a guy, or have them share something

937
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: personal with you, Have them share something personal with me.

938
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I love that. Give a guy the group date Rose

939
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: or the Frost. Give a guy a group date Rose

940
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: or the first Rose at the ceremony group date Rose. Yeah. Yeah,

941
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: but honestly, people us until like whose name is called

942
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: first at the roast ceremony by the way, Like it's

943
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: like a thing too. I mean, don't you remember. Oh

944
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: I never realized until people started calling it out. And

945
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: but you can kind of tell Michelle. I can so

946
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: tell who you're into already. And I don't know spoilers

947
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: or anything. It is so apparent to me, finals like, oh,

948
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: she is into this guy or she is not into

949
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: this one. I think it changes though. I think she

950
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: does a really good job. But yeah, I do. I

951
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: open up and it's like yes, at the beginning, like

952
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: that initial attraction, but there are definitely multiple men who

953
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: surprised me. And I'm like din out, where where did

954
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: you come from? Your credit? You're really good about being

955
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: very attentive to each and every conversation, like and I

956
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: get it. I remember like there were nights square because

957
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: they go so late, they're so long, there's so many conversations.

958
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: You're trying to remember information for each man man, and

959
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to compartmentalize at times. But you

960
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: are very good about being so alert, attentive, kind to

961
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: each and every man and every every conversation that you're

962
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: having so far. And I mean, maybe it's just because

963
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: you're incredible human because you're a teacher and you have

964
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: to already deal with thirty plus students. I don't know,

965
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: but you are. You're crushed it so far at dispatchword thing.

966
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: You really are. Yeah. I feel like there's nothing worse

967
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: so than like being in a conversation with someone and

968
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: them not like not feeling like they're listening or in

969
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: that conversation. Yeah, I mean there were definitely times where

970
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I accidentally like flip flop things, you know,

971
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I can remember that, Yeah, that's

972
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: the other one, that's the other moving on. I've been there,

973
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: done that's not a good look. Did you ever forget?

974
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Did you ever forget anyone's name? I didn't get On

975
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: the first night, Spencer walked in and I called him

976
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: a different name, and I'm like, names are so important,

977
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: like and I said it confidently, like I don't know

978
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: whose name he said. But they walked in and I

979
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I was like, nice to meet you.

980
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: He's like, it's Spencer. I'm like, oh, we all have

981
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: been there, we get it. Michelle. It has been such

982
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure. I hope I'm well, I'm not hoping.

983
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: I know we'll have you on later in the season,

984
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: but until then, we understand that you are a crazy,

985
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: busy woman. You have so much point on. There were

986
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: so many other people that you'd probably be rather having

987
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: conversations with right now. So we're gonna let you go,

988
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: but we absolutely love you. Thank you for joining Happy

989
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Hour today. I love you, guys, and I will talk

990
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: to you soon. See you, Lata. I love Michelle and

991
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: I love seeing the bonds that you have with her too,

992
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: Like you can just tell that she feels comfortable with you.

993
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: It's like just like a girl's night where we can

994
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: just chit chat and you know, share some tea. Honestly,

995
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: I have to say, like it was like a pleasure

996
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: I get to know her, and the fact that we

997
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: were able to open up with each other and just

998
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: like really create that relationship is amazing. And I think

999
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: the Duchess really helps her journey, you know, and I'm

1000
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: allowed to help her a little bit more because I

1001
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: get to know her and she truly is amazing. And

1002
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie I felt really left out that

1003
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm not from freaking Minnesota. I'm like, I want to

1004
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: start like saying my as like you guys like, I

1005
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: don't whatever. I'm coming to Minnesota and visiting both of

1006
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: you because I'm gonna be the honorary sister. Okay, Dasha

1007
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: you are. I'm just gonna drag you back with me.

1008
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna go hang out. Well, I know you were

1009
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: there for a few weeks. I'm Michelle Season, but we're

1010
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna give you like the real hometown tour, so just

1011
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: see away. You are in for a treat. A huge, huge,

1012
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: huge thank you to Michelle for joining us today. I'm

1013
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: so glad that she was able to pop on, Like

1014
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: I know, her schedules so insanely packed right now, so

1015
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: the fact that she could be with us for an

1016
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: hour just means the world. So thank you, Michelle, and

1017
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: a huge thank you to all of our Bachelor Happy

1018
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Our listeners. We can't wait to do the rest of

1019
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: the season alongside of you and have you tune in

1020
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: with us each week absolutely, and make sure you guys

1021
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram,

1022
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: at bachel Nation on Twitter, and Bachelor Nation on Facebook.

1023
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: And please don't forget to subscribe to our podcast. If

1024
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: you never want to miss an episode, tune in each week.

1025
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: You can do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App,

1026
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: or wherever you're listening to us right now until next week.

1027
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Bye,