Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom much. There was a Democrat
Speaker 1: debate last night. It was a debacle, but there was
Speaker 1: some interesting stuff and I'll tell you about today. You
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Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission
Speaker 1: is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence. Make
Speaker 1: no mistake American, you're a great American. Again the Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins. Remember he's a great guy. No, I
Speaker 1: think that Donald Trump thinks it would be better if
Speaker 1: he's a president. I do not think so. Vladimitt Plutin
Speaker 1: thinks that Donald Trumps should be president. On in state,
Speaker 1: and that's why Russia is helping you get Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Buck s Exit Show, everybody. It was great last night. Man,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like watching two guys at
Speaker 1: the retirement home and be like, I'm running Bingo tonight. No,
Speaker 1: I'm running Bingo tonight. Bloomberg and Bernie getting after it
Speaker 1: right there, right off the top. Bloomberg with a with
Speaker 1: a low blow on Russia wants you to win the bus. Look,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I challenge you to a I was
Speaker 1: gonna say arm wrestling contest, but I don't know who
Speaker 1: would win that one. Something they'd have to figure it out.
Speaker 1: So I did my duty last night, team. I watched
Speaker 1: and live tweeted the debate, lighting it up obviously on
Speaker 1: the on the Twitter. I should post some of it
Speaker 1: today to a Facebook as well, Facebook dot com slash
Speaker 1: buck Sex and if you do not already follow me there,
Speaker 1: it's a great way to communicate with me and the
Speaker 1: rest of the team and producer Mark Brucer. Mark is
Speaker 1: in there all the time defending the honor of the
Speaker 1: Avengers franchise. I would also say that last night was
Speaker 1: the biggest waste of two hours that I think I've
Speaker 1: had in many ways since watching the first two hours
Speaker 1: of The Avengers. But I will go back and watch
Speaker 1: the third hour, which I didn't even realize existed because
Speaker 1: I bailed. Here's what you need to know about the
Speaker 1: debate last night, and then we'll get into some of
Speaker 1: the specific There were some policy moments here and there,
Speaker 1: but here's what you really need to know. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's a total debacle. These networks are not able to
Speaker 1: put on what they think they can, which is a
Speaker 1: high standard journalistically superior event where we get into all
Speaker 1: the issues. These are TV journalists, I mean, they're they're
Speaker 1: completely replaceable. A lot of them don't even know really
Speaker 1: anything about politics and CBS. It was a total mess
Speaker 1: last night, an absolute mess. In fact, if CBS's plan
Speaker 1: was to run a debate so poorly that all the
Speaker 1: candidates on stage by comparison looked competent, mission accomplished, CBS.
Speaker 1: You can watch the debate last night, you would have
Speaker 1: said to yourself, well, these Democrats probably run things better
Speaker 1: than the people that are running this debate, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: It was really overall very JV. The moderators were weak,
Speaker 1: their questions were bad. It's a reminder that really what
Speaker 1: they should do. I mean, I think we should do
Speaker 1: this like an all star game in some of the
Speaker 1: sports leagues. We should have people vote. You know, there
Speaker 1: should be some kind of an online poll or some
Speaker 1: some polling company for who in the media space should
Speaker 1: be the moderators, and we should do an open vote.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's or at least, you know,
Speaker 1: you could do it. Of I don't know, Democrats for
Speaker 1: their prime or whatever it is. But you should then
Speaker 1: also allow it to be streamed by all the networks.
Speaker 1: There shouldn't be this one network at a time thing.
Speaker 1: It shows favoritism. I mean, the fact that Fox doesn't
Speaker 1: get a Democratic debate just shows what a bunch of
Speaker 1: whimps the Democrats are. It would be an excellent debate,
Speaker 1: I promise you, and it would have huge ratings, and
Speaker 1: they have Martha McCallum and Brett bar and probably Chris Wallace.
Speaker 1: I mean, I already already know who the moderators for
Speaker 1: Democrat debate would be, and they would do an excellent job.
Speaker 1: They would ask questions that aren't unfair. They would ask
Speaker 1: real questions. Last night was just nonsense, a lot of
Speaker 1: wokeness questions. Who's the most woke on the stage, who
Speaker 1: can tell us how they're going to do the most
Speaker 1: for you know, minority candidates, even though Joe Biden, by
Speaker 1: the way, constantly tells us that he has done so
Speaker 1: much in his career for minority not minority candid's for
Speaker 1: minority voters. You ask him for the specifics, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he gets very hazy. You asked him
Speaker 1: for the specifics, and it starts to fall apart. Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: I was hoping last night somebody would say something about
Speaker 1: the MCNA carta, just so Biden could start with I wrote,
Speaker 1: I wrote that bill because that's what he says about everything.
Speaker 1: I wrote the dang bill. He really didn't. Biden that
Speaker 1: he has been the great hope of the establishment tells
Speaker 1: you all you need to know about the state of
Speaker 1: the Democrat establishment right now. Tells you a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Here was some of the I mean, look, I wish
Speaker 1: I could drill down on the major takeaway. I'd like
Speaker 1: to start whenever we have these discussions team about a
Speaker 1: debate like this, I like to start with a thirty
Speaker 1: thousand foot view and then drill down in the specifics.
Speaker 1: The thirty thousand foot view is that the Democrats are
Speaker 1: crazy and that their party has completely gone off the rails,
Speaker 1: that they have unimpressive candidates, that they have policy proposals
Speaker 1: that will not work, that they're not operating in the
Speaker 1: realm of reality or math. They don't care about what
Speaker 1: we have learned as a country from history, and they
Speaker 1: didn't reassure anyone last night. Who if you had questions
Speaker 1: about these Democrats last night, if you had any concerns
Speaker 1: about their competent, see in their ability to do what
Speaker 1: is necessary here last night did not make you feel
Speaker 1: any better about any of that. Here, for example, is
Speaker 1: I mean, just to give you I'm saying they're silly.
Speaker 1: I'm saying they're crazy. Well, let me give you some
Speaker 1: examples of this. Joe Biden talking about gun control. They
Speaker 1: got to bring up gun control of Democrat debate, even
Speaker 1: though nothing ever happens. It's just a waste of everyone's time.
Speaker 1: States are blue. States are engaged in gun control grabs
Speaker 1: at the federal level. It's been decades. Right, Here's what
Speaker 1: Biden says. Here's his contribution. Mister, I wrote the bill.
Speaker 1: He has to yell at play three. One hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million people have been killed since two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: when Bernie voted to exempt the gun manufacture some liability,
Speaker 1: more than all the wars, including Vietnam, from that point on.
Speaker 1: You heard that right, one hundred and fifty million people,
Speaker 1: He says, he didn't stumble. It wasn't a misspe. It
Speaker 1: was an one hundred and fifty million, I mean a thousand, No,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million people, half the population of
Speaker 1: the United States, according to Joe Biden, have died in
Speaker 1: gun violence incidents since the year two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: Does he not hear himself? Is he just so robotic
Speaker 1: in the memorization of canned phrases? And has he been
Speaker 1: just so trained by handlers and speech writers that he
Speaker 1: doesn't even think about the words that come out of
Speaker 1: his mouth. I'm not am I being unfair? Would you
Speaker 1: go on TV if you were trying to be the
Speaker 1: leader of the free world and say, you know, thirty
Speaker 1: thirty thirty billion people a year die in car accidents
Speaker 1: in this country and then just let that hang out there?
Speaker 1: You probably I mean thirty I think by it might
Speaker 1: even be fifty, you know, I think thirty thousand's about right.
Speaker 1: Thirty thousand people something like that die in auto related
Speaker 1: accidents every year in the United States. Maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty thousand. If you said thirty billion, though,
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd probably correct yourself. We are judging
Speaker 1: these people. They want a tremendous amount of power. They
Speaker 1: want power over your lives. They want to be making
Speaker 1: decisions that will affect the economy, that will affect your
Speaker 1: children's future, we should be willing to judge them harshly.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's too old for this. Bernie Sanders is too
Speaker 1: old for this. Mike Bloomberg is too old for this.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren too old for this. And yeah, here we are.
Speaker 1: And you'd say, oh, buck, but what about Trump. Trump
Speaker 1: is a dynamo Trump, you know, rally after rally. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's one of the most engaging, energetic public not public,
Speaker 1: you know speakers, public performers I've ever seen. They didn't
Speaker 1: really think that Trump is lacking a step these days.
Speaker 1: Does he just mumble and meander off into into nothing? No,
Speaker 1: they say, oh, he lies, he exaggerates. He's a salesman,
Speaker 1: but he's a salesman who gets the deal done. He
Speaker 1: doesn't forget where he is. He doesn't forget what you
Speaker 1: don't forget what what his job is. So Biden had
Speaker 1: a night where also, I don't know why he thinks
Speaker 1: it's a good idea to shout. So let me tell
Speaker 1: you this. I wrote the bill, and I did my
Speaker 1: whole life, my whole life, everything with Joe Biden starts
Speaker 1: my whole life, my whole career. I wrote that I
Speaker 1: did that. This guy is such a poser. It didn't
Speaker 1: He didn't do these things. He's just another senator who
Speaker 1: was voting or his staff, you know, added a paragraph
Speaker 1: to some bill past twenty years ago or something. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's not a leader. And all this talk about how
Speaker 1: he's vice president. I mean, let's be honest, vice president
Speaker 1: stretching back to the very first vice president in the
Speaker 1: United States history. Joy, don't tell it, Gentley, don't do
Speaker 1: all that much. We know this, but Biden's shouting about
Speaker 1: how he does so much all the time. It's it's
Speaker 1: simply absurd. But if we're going to talk really observed,
Speaker 1: we could get into Bernie Sanders on the numbers. This
Speaker 1: was remarkable. The Medicare for all is the primary policy
Speaker 1: proposal of Bernie Sanders. I would note his other policy
Speaker 1: proposals are also far left, and that he is, and
Speaker 1: people are increasingly waking up to this, a Marxist. He
Speaker 1: is a Marxists. It's not a Denmark style European you know,
Speaker 1: big government socialist. He's actually further left than they are
Speaker 1: on a whole bunch of issues, on all really the
Speaker 1: important issues. And but what do we even what do
Speaker 1: we even think a Bernie Sanders foreign policy would look like?
Speaker 1: Do we even know? Of course not, But you had
Speaker 1: Bernie when pushed on the cost, and he gets all
Speaker 1: flustered about this, as if it shouldn't matter what the
Speaker 1: cost is. When Bernie is pushed on this issue, he
Speaker 1: makes up numbers. No, the same way that Biden should
Speaker 1: not be able, it should not be able to come
Speaker 1: out of Joe Biden's mouth that one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million people in the last decade or so have died
Speaker 1: in gun violence in America. That's crazy talk. This is
Speaker 1: also crazy talk from Bernie Sanders play clip aid producer Mark.
Speaker 1: What the Health in Human Services have said in analyzing
Speaker 1: healthcare costs, what Yale recent Yale study has said is
Speaker 1: that your program would cost some fifty trillion dollars over
Speaker 1: a ten year period. We would continue to pay, in
Speaker 1: some cases ten times more for the same exact prescription drugs.
Speaker 1: What every study out there, conservative or progressive says, Medicare
Speaker 1: for all will save money as will cost about forty
Speaker 1: five billion, not sixty trillion. That's right. This is the
Speaker 1: proverbial chocolate cake that will not make you fat eat
Speaker 1: as much of it as you want. There's enough for everybody,
Speaker 1: it will never run out, and you don't have the
Speaker 1: painting for it. That's what Bernie Sanders is offering. Does
Speaker 1: anyone who is an adult who really thinks about this
Speaker 1: believe what Bernie Sanders is saying. It's going to save
Speaker 1: money to give every American the same healthcare. That's what
Speaker 1: would have Medicare for All means we're all in the
Speaker 1: same healthcare plan all of a sudden, which would de
Speaker 1: facto turn all healthcare providers into government employees. You know why,
Speaker 1: the government's going to determine what the reimbursement rates are
Speaker 1: for Medicare for All, So the government's going to decide
Speaker 1: who's getting money in the healthcare system all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: You know, your hope that if you have to have
Speaker 1: heart surger or if you have to go get cancer treatment,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go see you know, that's the point
Speaker 1: in life where you want the guy with all the
Speaker 1: fancy degrees in the orgal with all the fancy degrees
Speaker 1: in the wall, and you know, decades of experience and
Speaker 1: they're like a superstar in the field and whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do to get that treatment. If your
Speaker 1: life is on the line, No, now you're gonna go in.
Speaker 1: It'll be like a glorified DMV employee telling you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you've got any biotic resistant bacteria,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe it's maybe it's something else. I
Speaker 1: don't know. To go to CBS. Here's a prescription. See
Speaker 1: you later. You had your three minutes are up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be it'll be free, but that's what
Speaker 1: you're looking at. And sure, if you have an ear
Speaker 1: infection or you have strep throat, it might be really nice.
Speaker 1: You get to go to the local government doctor and
Speaker 1: you know you'll wait about two or three hours in
Speaker 1: the waiting room, but then you know you'll you'll get
Speaker 1: your prescription. But if you if you have chronic back
Speaker 1: pain desperately need to have some kind of spinal surgery
Speaker 1: or something, you know, the government I'm sure will give
Speaker 1: you really excellent pain meds. Hopefully you won't become addicted,
Speaker 1: and you know it'll ruin your life, but they'll they'll
Speaker 1: prescribe you in the three minute visit that you're offered
Speaker 1: by this Medicare for All program that will now be
Speaker 1: the healthcare for the entire country. They'll give you that
Speaker 1: prescription for painkillers, and you know, you'll wait six to
Speaker 1: nine months before you have a surgery where also what
Speaker 1: happens if it goes wrong, you're gonna sue that. You're
Speaker 1: gonna sue the government. Everyone's gonna want to see the government.
Speaker 1: Now that government's got endless, endless pockets. Right, the pockets
Speaker 1: of the government are deeper than anybody else's. They can
Speaker 1: print money, So they're gonna have to institute toward reform,
Speaker 1: but it will be the bad kind of towart reform
Speaker 1: because it'll effectively be what prosecutors have in this country,
Speaker 1: which is a which is qualified immunity. So doctors that
Speaker 1: are going to be operating on you because the government's
Speaker 1: going to be the one on the hook for you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're suing them for, because the
Speaker 1: government's going to be the one determining the procedures. The
Speaker 1: government's gonna be the ones that are setting the reimbursement rates.
Speaker 1: You know, that's guess what they're gonna say. Now, you
Speaker 1: can't keep suiting because they're gonna otherwise you'll just sue
Speaker 1: doctors out of existence all over the place and there
Speaker 1: won't be able to be a market increase in premium
Speaker 1: rates for insurance because that's not even gonna matter anymore,
Speaker 1: because doctors won't be able to charge you different fees
Speaker 1: for different different fees based on their skill and their
Speaker 1: service level. I mean, I know that we're just we're
Speaker 1: just skating around the surface of this disaster right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could spend the whole show just talking
Speaker 1: about all the ways that this is a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: And whenever he brings up Canada, whenever he brings up
Speaker 1: the UK, he brings up these other countries. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: also have very large private healthcare systems and that's where
Speaker 1: the rich people go and they really need it. And
Speaker 1: do we want the Canadian economy or do we want
Speaker 1: the American economy? Which country is more the engine of
Speaker 1: wealth and with wealth, freedom and prosperity not just for
Speaker 1: its own people, but for the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Canadians are lovely people. I'm very fond of them. Canada
Speaker 1: is not a world leader or anything except having water, freshwater.
Speaker 1: It's true. So what exact and probably polar bears bears,
Speaker 1: what are we really thinking we're going to accomplish here?
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is saying this is going to cost forty
Speaker 1: five billion dollars, really giving everybody the right to go
Speaker 1: in buy law and say, hey, treat me. I'm here,
Speaker 1: make my medical problems go away. You got no skin
Speaker 1: in the game. No copay, no nothing, because it is
Speaker 1: Medicare for all proposal, no co pays, no caut sharing.
Speaker 1: This destroys individual individual ingenuity. It destroys any sense of
Speaker 1: a market based healthcare system. It's a disaster. I promise you, look,
Speaker 1: I would love it if I could see the best
Speaker 1: doctors and never pay for healthcare. I have health insurance.
Speaker 1: I try to go to the doctors as infrequently as
Speaker 1: possible because our medical system is already largely ruined by
Speaker 1: regulations written by people like Bernie Sanders. You always hear
Speaker 1: about how you know, public school teachers, all the teachers unions.
Speaker 1: Your teachers just want to teach. Yeah, doctors actually do
Speaker 1: want to heal people, but they spend all their time
Speaker 1: fending off lawsuits, doing paperwork, and dealing with the bureaucracy
Speaker 1: because the bureaucracy keeps trying to tell them how to
Speaker 1: do medicine. Because people say, oh, I just I want
Speaker 1: the state to take care of me and keep me
Speaker 1: safe and warm at night. The state doesn't do that,
Speaker 1: that'll do other things to you at night. It won't
Speaker 1: keep you safe and warm. You're in the freedom hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I will say
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to do the debates these days
Speaker 1: because all the conservatives bad. We just sit back and
Speaker 1: it is listening to these democrats. It is like a
Speaker 1: mystery science theater vibe when you sit there and hear
Speaker 1: the crazy stuff that they're saying, and you get other
Speaker 1: at all the conservatives I know in media who who
Speaker 1: are reasonably insightful and clever. We're all just trying to
Speaker 1: how do one another all the time with pointing out
Speaker 1: the absurdity that is on display. And I've got to
Speaker 1: imagine there are a lot of a lot of real
Speaker 1: intelligent Democrats sitting at home who got to be watching
Speaker 1: these debates saying, oh my gosh, what what the heck
Speaker 1: is going on here? What are we doing? What is
Speaker 1: happening with our party? This is crazy because from my
Speaker 1: side of it, as much as I kind of weep
Speaker 1: for the country as a political analyst and at a
Speaker 1: radio host, this year is manufik. It is fantastic, It
Speaker 1: really is. I I guess that would be fantastique as well.
Speaker 1: It's great man. Maybe he's Democrats. They're giving me plenty
Speaker 1: of material, that is for sure. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: on this issue of the potential political peril you could
Speaker 1: you and Democrats can suffer. In Florida, Congressman Donna Chealelis said,
Speaker 1: come on down to Miami and meet with the people
Speaker 1: who have been affected by his regime. Would you be
Speaker 1: willing to do that? And hear them out? Go I
Speaker 1: go all over the country. Of course, Shuber, here is
Speaker 1: a dictatorship. I've said that eighty million clients. But that
Speaker 1: does not mean to say as a Bomber pointed out
Speaker 1: that even under a dictatorship, you could teach people to
Speaker 1: read and to write, that you could provide healthcare to
Speaker 1: old people. He just doubles down on this because he's
Speaker 1: a Marxist, triples down. He won't back off this. He
Speaker 1: will not accept that it is unacceptable to pick out
Speaker 1: one minute area of how a regime operated and highlight that,
Speaker 1: elevate that as something that we need to hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course a dictatorship can teach some people to read.
Speaker 1: Of course a dictatorship can feed some people. You know,
Speaker 1: Totalitarian regimes don't want to eliminate all of their subjects, right,
Speaker 1: They don't want to kill everybody because they don't have
Speaker 1: a country anymore. But they enslave everybody psychologically and physically,
Speaker 1: and they destroy freedom. And freedom is an athema to
Speaker 1: a dictatorship, but as an athema to authoritarianism. And Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders is not making anybody who is concerned about his
Speaker 1: totalitarian impulses feel any better. I've read to you about
Speaker 1: what the Cuban regime was like in the sixties and
Speaker 1: the seventies. They've repudiated none of it. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Cuban government is still a totalitarian kleptocracy of thugs.
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, in a just world, you know, we would
Speaker 1: send down the eighty second. I'm not saying we should
Speaker 1: do this, but if we were really just seeking justice,
Speaker 1: you would send down the eighty second airborne and you
Speaker 1: would have trials once we had rounded all of the
Speaker 1: Cuban leadership up, you would have trials for war crimes,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them would end up at the
Speaker 1: end of a rope or firing squad, whatever we preferred.
Speaker 1: The Cuban government is full of murderous, brutal fucks, far worse,
Speaker 1: far worse. By the way, you know, we hear so
Speaker 1: much about about Putin and partisan who's no friend of
Speaker 1: Putin than Putin such a bad guy. Putin legitimately and
Speaker 1: I know we've gotten this whole Russia collusion insanity to
Speaker 1: the point now where you can't even have a normal
Speaker 1: discussion about Russia. The Soviet Union, Yeah, obviously enslave hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of people murdered, millions, tens of millions of
Speaker 1: people of sovieting a different story. Russia. Yeah, Putin is
Speaker 1: effectively an authoritarian, no question, Although Mike Bloomberg has questions
Speaker 1: about authoritary in China. Will get to that. But if
Speaker 1: you were to look at Russian public support for Putin,
Speaker 1: it's high people in Russia and I and you will
Speaker 1: not hear there's some other other people in this country
Speaker 1: generally because we're all, oh, Putin is the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Putin's a bad guy. He's essentially KGB slash Russian mafia
Speaker 1: running the country. So if we had somebody who was
Speaker 1: ex intel, if I were, this is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Actually sounds like a good good book. If I were
Speaker 1: to have joined some organized crime family and ran it
Speaker 1: and then I became the president of the United States,
Speaker 1: that would be something like and see's total control. That's
Speaker 1: that's effectively what's going on in Russia. But Putin has
Speaker 1: also presided over what the Russian people believe is a
Speaker 1: restoration of Russian international dignity after I mean, it was
Speaker 1: very sad for them for a long time to be
Speaker 1: after the fall of the Wall, completely impoverished and felt
Speaker 1: like they're everything. You know, their world was in free fall.
Speaker 1: There was a lack of a feeling of dignity among
Speaker 1: the Russian people in the nineteen nineties when okay, now
Speaker 1: they've got freedom, but they don't have and they don't
Speaker 1: have an economy to speak of. Putin has presided over
Speaker 1: the creation of a Russian middle class. Again. See now
Speaker 1: people say, oh, Buggy are doing what Bernie does about
Speaker 1: about Cuba. No, Putin is not nearly as bad as
Speaker 1: Castro and the Castro regime. And you know, Raoul Castro
Speaker 1: has done things. I mean, the Castros are responsible for
Speaker 1: the kind of war crimes, as I said, where we
Speaker 1: should if we could round them up and have them executed,
Speaker 1: and that would be fair, that would be just. Now
Speaker 1: you might say Putin probably should spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time in prison. He's definitely had journalists executed. You know,
Speaker 1: he's bad, but he's not He's not as bad but
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. Because the Democratic Party right now has gotten
Speaker 1: so you know, utterly and completely wrapped up in this
Speaker 1: Russia collusion. It's they believe this no matter what the evidence,
Speaker 1: no matter what we can provide them with. Putin is
Speaker 1: really really bad and a scary man. But you know,
Speaker 1: he'll say nice things about Cuba, which is which is
Speaker 1: all I'm trying to say, is that the Cuban regime
Speaker 1: is worse than Putin's government. If you look at the
Speaker 1: totality of what has gone on, right I think the
Speaker 1: Cuban regime is in a different category. Putin is bad.
Speaker 1: But people don't want to hear about what's really going
Speaker 1: on in Russia. They just prefer to think of it
Speaker 1: as the biggest threat to the United States. Because Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton lost the twenty sixteen election, China is a much
Speaker 1: bigger threat to America as we know. But Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 1: I sit here and I wonder what has befallen this
Speaker 1: country and how we could have reached a point where
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is even a serious consideration for any higher office.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Vermont should be a little bit embarrassed,
Speaker 1: quite honestly, that this has been the senator that they've
Speaker 1: had for so many years, and he was their only
Speaker 1: congressman for a number of years before that. Bernie, of course,
Speaker 1: has the usual Marxist claptrap about bringing working people back
Speaker 1: into the Democratic Party. Play clip six producer mark my
Speaker 1: favorability naturally, I believe on the highest up here is
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, all right. But the point is,
Speaker 1: the point is the way we are gonna be Trump,
Speaker 1: which is what everybody Appia wants, is we need a
Speaker 1: campaign of energy and excitement. We need to have the
Speaker 1: largest vote to turn out in the history of the
Speaker 1: United States. We need to bring working people back into
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. We need to get young people voting
Speaker 1: in a way they have never done before. That is
Speaker 1: what our campaign is about. He's a Marxist, He's mobilizing
Speaker 1: the youth who don't understand very much about politics. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest and claiming that he's going to do so
Speaker 1: much to help workers. You know who workers work for. Corporations,
Speaker 1: people who have enough assets on their own to have
Speaker 1: businesses where they hire people, and yes, even people in
Speaker 1: this country who are billionaires. That is who workers work for.
Speaker 1: Do we really think that they will be better off
Speaker 1: with Bernie Sanders determining that all of their bosses are
Speaker 1: bad people who don't know what they're doing. There's a
Speaker 1: very clear choice that has emerged for Democrats between Sanders
Speaker 1: and Bloomberg. This is the the far left of the
Speaker 1: party versus the more technocratic, such as it is, democrat, elitist,
Speaker 1: limousine liberal wing of the party. And I think you
Speaker 1: gotta figure right now, Bernie Sanders side of this is
Speaker 1: going to be the one that ends up victorious. In fact,
Speaker 1: Bloomberg thought that by entering into this contest, he may
Speaker 1: prevent he may actually stop Bernie Sanders from becoming the
Speaker 1: nominee when you look at the numbers in some of
Speaker 1: these states, because he's taking a lot of what you'd
Speaker 1: have to assume or Biden votes. I think that's what
Speaker 1: Bloomberg is really peeling off. He may be the reason
Speaker 1: that Bernie Sanders marches to the nomination, and that should
Speaker 1: be something that concerns all of us. I said to
Speaker 1: you yesterday, and I think some people were a little surprised,
Speaker 1: and I shared this publicly on Twitter as well. Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders is not even a smart socialist. I really stand
Speaker 1: behind that. I don't think Bernie Sanders is a smart socialist.
Speaker 1: There are people who I know who are of the left,
Speaker 1: who are learned, They've read a lot, They're very smart.
Speaker 1: They can make sophisticated arguments about socialism. They're wrong, but
Speaker 1: they can make sophisticated arguments and they can anticipate where
Speaker 1: the other side is going. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: them because the primary motivation behind the primary among the
Speaker 1: primary motivations I should say, behind Marxism and socialist thought,
Speaker 1: it's the replacement of God of God with the state.
Speaker 1: It's also giving people a reason and it gives them
Speaker 1: a sense of empowerment. It gives them an argument for
Speaker 1: why they're on the side of good. So it really
Speaker 1: is it's a pseudoscience. Marxism is pseudoscience. They always pretend
Speaker 1: that there's that they can just look at this on
Speaker 1: a board and add up how, you know, the arc
Speaker 1: of history and the transition from capitalism into socialism and
Speaker 1: the revolution of the proletariat and I mean all this,
Speaker 1: you know, dictatorship of the proletariat and a revolution that
Speaker 1: would bring it about. They think that they can look
Speaker 1: at this on a board and bring it all about.
Speaker 1: But that's nonsense, right, It's pseudoscience. It always has been,
Speaker 1: and it really is a religious replacement before it is
Speaker 1: an economic replacement. The economic arguments are just a means
Speaker 1: of mobilizing people in support of this secular religion, if
Speaker 1: you will. That's what Marxism really is all about. Which
Speaker 1: when you start to line this up with Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 1: doesn't it all makes sense now? You know the social
Speaker 1: justice component of everything that he says. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not fair that some people have more than others. That
Speaker 1: is a fundamental central thought for Bernie Sanders and for
Speaker 1: Marxists for as long as this has been a theory.
Speaker 1: It's just not fair. And if we have to pull
Speaker 1: down people who have more so that people who have
Speaker 1: less feel better, and we'll call that justice. We're willing
Speaker 1: to do that, but to do that, you always have
Speaker 1: to use a very heavy hand of government. You have
Speaker 1: to empower the state well beyond what the founders had
Speaker 1: in mind in this country. And that's why Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: is in fact fundamentally Unamerican in his beliefs. Is this
Speaker 1: is the big problem that the Democrats face. This is
Speaker 1: why putting a socialist forward as your primary candidate's going
Speaker 1: to be an issue that I think will continue to
Speaker 1: come back and haunt them long afterwards. Bernie Sanders, of
Speaker 1: course claims that he is not radical. Play a play
Speaker 1: nineteen producer mark misconception, and you're hearing it here tonight.
Speaker 1: This is the ideas I'm talking about a radical. They're
Speaker 1: not in one form or another. They exist in countries
Speaker 1: all over the world. Healthcare is a human right. We
Speaker 1: have the necessity, the moral imperative to address the existential
Speaker 1: threat of climate change. Of the countries are doing that.
Speaker 1: We don't need more people in jail. This proportionally African
Speaker 1: American than any other country on Earth. Not a radical idea.
Speaker 1: All countries are different, Bernie. They have different histories, different
Speaker 1: rule of law, different individual freedom. I mean, what is
Speaker 1: he even saying? This sounds good? This sounds good because
Speaker 1: he's a demagogue. I mean, he's a guy who spread
Speaker 1: his whole life just repeating the stuff. Any of this
Speaker 1: is people in college they read some Gnam Chomsky and
Speaker 1: America is not so great. It's actually pretty terrible. And
Speaker 1: look at all these other great countries. Forget about the
Speaker 1: bad stuff that they've done. I mean, this is really
Speaker 1: just a moral relativism that the people that adopt this
Speaker 1: think elevates them. And I've always said this that conservatives
Speaker 1: just patriots. We could say that patriots take a tremendous
Speaker 1: pride in being American. The left in this country has
Speaker 1: always taken pride in thinking that they're better than America,
Speaker 1: and that informs a lot of their thinking, a lot
Speaker 1: of the approaches that they take on policy issues, particularly
Speaker 1: on foreign policy, but on policy issues more broadly. His
Speaker 1: ideas aren't radical, then why has the Democratic Party adamantly
Speaker 1: refused to adopt them for the last oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: fifty years or so, let's just say whenever it has
Speaker 1: come up, and it's been coming up longer than that.
Speaker 1: You know, there was an American Communist Party USA CPUSA
Speaker 1: was a real thing. There were socialists in this country,
Speaker 1: stretching back to the rise of socialism in Europe, right,
Speaker 1: And there's a whole history that don't teach in school.
Speaker 1: People don't learn about this. They don't understand that there
Speaker 1: were not just communist infiltrations during the Soviet era of
Speaker 1: the United States and of the United States government, but
Speaker 1: there were journalists and academics and even politicians in America
Speaker 1: who were well known who were open socialists and felt
Speaker 1: a tremendous kinship to the great socialist power that was
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. But that was a real fight. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have been having this debate stretching back to really
Speaker 1: the fall of monarchies in Europe and the fall of
Speaker 1: the old and the Ncien regime, if you will, the
Speaker 1: old order of things. After the First World War, you
Speaker 1: had the Soviet Revolution nineteen seventeen October Revolution. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Soviet Union adopts and there's a very
Speaker 1: complicated series of processes that led to this. But the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union becomes the primary socialist power in the world.
Speaker 1: Remember the United Soviet Socialist Republics right USSR. People always
Speaker 1: seemed to forget about this socialism. Then we throw the
Speaker 1: communism label around with the Soviets. The Soviets thought of
Speaker 1: themselves as socialists, and communism is just a flavor, it's
Speaker 1: just a branch of socialism. It has to do with
Speaker 1: the implementation of it, the ideas, the values. You know, Lenin,
Speaker 1: I've told you the original, the very first Soviets in
Speaker 1: the in the form of Lenin and Stalin. Joseph Jugashvili
Speaker 1: called himself Coba in the early days, which I always
Speaker 1: thought was interesting, and if you've watched Planet of the Apes,
Speaker 1: that's why the main bad guy Ape in Planet of
Speaker 1: the Apes Coba. It's a homage I think to Stalin
Speaker 1: and the rise of authoritarianism. And then referred to himself
Speaker 1: in a letter as Stalin men of steel in Russian.
Speaker 1: But they thought of themselves as social democrats. That's what
Speaker 1: they called themselves. So you'll see that they keep changing
Speaker 1: the terms they keep but ultimately that that foundation of
Speaker 1: pseudoscience rooted in envy. I mean that is that is
Speaker 1: that the way that Marxism is built. Bernie Sanders believes
Speaker 1: in that. Bernie Sanders is somebody who has always believed
Speaker 1: in that, and he is appealing to a very dark
Speaker 1: part of human nature. That instead of trying to allow
Speaker 1: people to elevate themselves and encourage everyone to elevate themselves
Speaker 1: and put in place the best possible system to do that,
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders wants to go around like that game that
Speaker 1: we've all played with the mallet, where you hit the
Speaker 1: gophers on the head. You know, too much money. Billionaire
Speaker 1: Boom hit him with the mallet. Too much money. Millionaire
Speaker 1: Boom hit him with the mallet. That's the guy who
Speaker 1: wants to be the next leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: I think that's a bad idea. You're in the freedom hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. But it's easier
Speaker 1: to make when that Democratic candidate embraces the title of
Speaker 1: socialists and doesn't refute it. And the truth of the
Speaker 1: matter is Bernie Sanders is not a socialist. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at up in the dictionary, he's not
Speaker 1: calling for, you know, the society own the means of
Speaker 1: production and all of that stuff. Ah, here we go.
Speaker 1: What have I've been telling you? David Axeot over at
Speaker 1: CNN doing what we knew they would do. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not really a social it's not really socialism. He
Speaker 1: calls himself on a socialist. This reminds me of Democrats
Speaker 1: with the Islamic state. It's not Islamic and it's not
Speaker 1: a state. I don't think they get to determine that
Speaker 1: on behalf of isis everyone obambi he's doing sist in
Speaker 1: calling it an isol It was just pedantry. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was a pedantic, nonsense move. This is socialism, folks.
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is a socialist. You don't get to say
Speaker 1: we want Denmark style socialism and then say, oh, but
Speaker 1: we're not really socialists. They just keep changing the definition.
Speaker 1: In fact, we already have a fair amount of socialism
Speaker 1: in America. That's part of the problem. The public school
Speaker 1: system is in fact a form of socialism. Medicare is
Speaker 1: a form of socialism. And you start looking a lot
Speaker 1: of these programs, folks, they are socialized components of the
Speaker 1: US economy. And I just have to though. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try everything, including a guy who gets up every day
Speaker 1: and screams in microphones, Oh, I'm a democratic socialist. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have the media apparatus be like, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not really a socialist though, I mean, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He's gonna say all that stuff, But he's
Speaker 1: not really a socialist. Oh no, he is. He is
Speaker 1: most certainly a socialist. So let's all just put that
Speaker 1: in our pipe and smoke it as we determined who
Speaker 1: we're going to vote for this election. Thanks for listening
Speaker 1: to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on
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Speaker 1: your podcasts. It was thirtie and it was seventeen. That's
Speaker 1: an incredible shrinking price. Tech at some point has said
Speaker 1: is it is unknowable to even see what the price
Speaker 1: tech would be. Now they're a new numbers card. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you exactly what it adds up to. It adds
Speaker 1: up to four more years of Donald Trump. Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 1: is a Speaker of the House and the inability to
Speaker 1: get the Senate into Democratic hands. The time has come
Speaker 1: for us to stop acting like the presidency is the
Speaker 1: only office that matters. Not only is this a way
Speaker 1: to get Donald Trump reelected, you got a House to Worria,
Speaker 1: you got a Senate to Warrior, and this is this
Speaker 1: is really important. Look, if you want to keep the
Speaker 1: House in Democratic handcer, you might want to check with
Speaker 1: the people who actually turned the House Blue forty Democrats
Speaker 1: who are not running on your platform. They are running
Speaker 1: away from your platform as fast as they possibly can.
Speaker 1: Mayor Pete scoring a big hit there last night. Now,
Speaker 1: Mayor Pete's not going to be president. I don't even
Speaker 1: think he's really a serious vice presidential candidate, but he
Speaker 1: is now going to be. He's a Democrat figure that
Speaker 1: you will see and hear more of in the years,
Speaker 1: probably in the decades ahead. His point about Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: in the damage that will be done to down ballot
Speaker 1: candidates is a serious one. That's a that's a real consideration.
Speaker 1: Democrats would be wise to pay some attention to what
Speaker 1: he is saying here, but I don't think that they
Speaker 1: really will. Mayor Pete also he thinks that every time
Speaker 1: I'm he has an opportunity to speak, it has to
Speaker 1: be a speech, and he's wrong about that. You can
Speaker 1: just speak like a normal person, doesn't have to always
Speaker 1: be well when we bring together the country and unite
Speaker 1: in the glory of a wonderful future of hope and
Speaker 1: thinking about how we can do that uniting and hope
Speaker 1: and things, and you just be like, no, man, I
Speaker 1: didn't like the movie, you know, what I mean, you
Speaker 1: can just you can just respond like a normal person.
Speaker 1: It is one of the things that we take for
Speaker 1: granted about Trump that he has broken down the old
Speaker 1: established format of you have to speak to people when
Speaker 1: you're a politician like you're some weird political robot who's
Speaker 1: not a normal person. You have to use these canned
Speaker 1: phrases and everything has to be bringing it back to,
Speaker 1: you know, your key talking point. Now you can also
Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, you know, I like cheeseburgers. You
Speaker 1: can do that as a politician. You're allowed to do
Speaker 1: that now. Or you can say, yeah, that guy in
Speaker 1: the back who works for seeing An he's a jerk.
Speaker 1: You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to speak the
Speaker 1: way that people speak, which I think is a great innovation.
Speaker 1: You know, the president when he does as stated he
Speaker 1: address me, there are times when the presentation should have
Speaker 1: a little more pomp and circumstance around it. But as
Speaker 1: a general matter, I prefer having a president who is
Speaker 1: just going to talk the way that people talk. And
Speaker 1: that's a new that's a new thing to be sure. Now,
Speaker 1: oh wait, before before I well, there's the other Democrats
Speaker 1: out there, including from the Obama administration that I think
Speaker 1: are watching this and recognizing what's going to happen. Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders is a huge risk, to be sure, for the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party because if if Biden runs against Trump and loses,
Speaker 1: you will have essentially the Democrat Party making the same
Speaker 1: arguments in the next election. And you know, just they
Speaker 1: hate Trump, Russia, Trump's corrupt, all the same stuff. If
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders loses, they're going to have no one to
Speaker 1: blame but themselves for running a crazy candidate on a
Speaker 1: crazy platform. So there's additional risk for running Bernie versus
Speaker 1: anyone else against Trump. Even Elizabeth Warren Causa Lush her
Speaker 1: birth warrens Or as much as she was ready to go,
Speaker 1: she was on the war path against Bloomberg and the
Speaker 1: last debate, and this time she wanted to tell she
Speaker 1: thinks she's folksy and relatable. The reality of Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 1: is that she is sanctimonious and condescending to all normal
Speaker 1: Americans who understand that, which is why she does so
Speaker 1: well with the media but does not do well outside
Speaker 1: of the bluest blue coastal corridors, because when she does
Speaker 1: the whole you know, my daddy was my daddy was
Speaker 1: a coal miner, or it wasn't a coal mine or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. My my daddy was a male. Now
Speaker 1: that's well, she always talks about her daddy. I forget
Speaker 1: what it was like, a truck driver or something, you know,
Speaker 1: a normal person job, you know, a respectable job. But
Speaker 1: she tells this story because it was Kasick. Who everything was?
Speaker 1: You know, you know my dad was a mailman. Okay,
Speaker 1: we get it. We've heard it a million times. Who
Speaker 1: kai among the most surly and uncharismatic politicians I've ever
Speaker 1: had the misfortune of interviewing. I will tell you I
Speaker 1: was not not a Kasick person at all, never was,
Speaker 1: never will be. But holiciap with Warren. She tells the
Speaker 1: story of bringing herself up in Ohio. I'm my ma
Speaker 1: Cherokee heritage and in the Midwest. And let me keep
Speaker 1: in mind, she ran to the Democrat power structure as
Speaker 1: fast as she could, lied about who she was to
Speaker 1: get in there, and lied about who she was to
Speaker 1: get at the University of Pennsylvania and Ivy League school
Speaker 1: and then get into Harvard I mean teach at Harvard Law.
Speaker 1: Now she's worth like seven to ten million dollars she's Oh,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm just like you. It's a total fraud.
Speaker 1: It's total phony. Pretends to care so much about Main
Speaker 1: Street and the big Wall Street banks. She's really she
Speaker 1: didn't have anything particularly worthwhile to say last night. I
Speaker 1: think she had a bad as the debate when she
Speaker 1: had a bad night. M but oh Pete boodha judge,
Speaker 1: I want to get back to him for a second. See,
Speaker 1: we were trying to break this down for you. He
Speaker 1: had another look. He is a guy who sounds like
Speaker 1: he's always in the midst of his McKinsey consulting interview,
Speaker 1: and he did it. There was a moment last night
Speaker 1: where they asked for the greatest misconception about you, and
Speaker 1: it was like Mayor Pete's version was you know that
Speaker 1: I'm too unflappable. That's like when someone asks you at
Speaker 1: a job interview, priest of Mark, you ever done this?
Speaker 1: So I'm never asked you. But first was a stupid question.
Speaker 1: So the people who ask this in job interview somebody
Speaker 1: should you know, smack him upside the head. But people
Speaker 1: still do. Have you ever had the what's your biggest weakness?
Speaker 1: In a job interview question? You ask me that No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I know he didn't know I was about
Speaker 1: I was about to flip this table and lose my mind.
Speaker 1: I would never ask that question. I've gotten that question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you remember what you said? Don't? It's the dumbest
Speaker 1: question in the world, because it's sort of like being
Speaker 1: on a first date, which you know, there's similarities between
Speaker 1: a first date and a job interview in terms of
Speaker 1: your pre you're presenting, you're being judged. Feel like on
Speaker 1: a first date if a girl was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's the worst thing about you answer that question? You
Speaker 1: gotta find that out, o games. I'm trying to hide that, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and you'll figure it out on your own, there, sweetness,
Speaker 1: you know like it doesn't it doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: told upfront. But because I've got I'll love the the
Speaker 1: usual way people do this, as they say, Um, I
Speaker 1: take too much work on I share the credit too fast,
Speaker 1: like work too hard? These humble brags. I'm sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mayor I worked too hard. I make other people look
Speaker 1: back because I work too hard, and then I feel
Speaker 1: guilty about it. Mayor, Pete, are those I'm too unflappable?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm too cool under pressure, you know. But he
Speaker 1: was right about one thing, which is that if you're
Speaker 1: talking about what Russia is trying to accomplish in this election,
Speaker 1: sewing chaos is definitely very high on the list. Play
Speaker 1: play twenty one please, I'll tell you what the Russians want.
Speaker 1: They don't have a political party. They want chaos, and
Speaker 1: chaos is what is coming our way. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if you think the last four years has been chaotic, divisive, toxic, exhausting,
Speaker 1: imagine spending the better part of twenty twenty with Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders versus Donald Trump. Think about what that will be
Speaker 1: like for this country. And meanwhile, folks at home, from
Speaker 1: South Carolina to South Bend are trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what any of this means for us. Because it's right
Speaker 1: that there is a progressive majority, an American majority that
Speaker 1: wants to see real change, wants to see wages go
Speaker 1: up and go up faster than the cost of health
Speaker 1: and saving for retirement. But also here's a majority of
Speaker 1: the American people who I think right now just want
Speaker 1: to be able to turn on the TV, see their
Speaker 1: president and actually feel their blood pressure go down a
Speaker 1: little bit instead of up. Through the roof Mayor Pete's like,
Speaker 1: I'm super chill vote for me. It's a long way
Speaker 1: to go. There is an underlying truth here, and that
Speaker 1: is if the Democrats weren't so ideologically driven and so
Speaker 1: emotionally invested against Trump, the clear lane that they have
Speaker 1: would be to do ah what would essentially be a
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton style triangulation here and say we want to
Speaker 1: we want to do the things that Trump is, the
Speaker 1: things that are going well in the economy. We're going
Speaker 1: to continue. We're gonna bring the country together. We're gonna
Speaker 1: work together. We're gonna reach across the aisle. We're gonna
Speaker 1: come up with solutions. We're gonna heal the divide in
Speaker 1: this nation. What was How did Obama forget about how
Speaker 1: Obama governed? I know a lot of you talking about
Speaker 1: blood pressure rising, forget about how Obama governed. Remember how
Speaker 1: Obama ran for office. You know the slogan hope and change,
Speaker 1: and it was all bringing us together. And you knows
Speaker 1: I'm gonna merge together. We're gonna love draw, We're gonna
Speaker 1: be amazing, We're gonna be fand testing, We're all gonna
Speaker 1: whole house or we're gonna be friends, and that was
Speaker 1: the way that he managed to crush two Republican presidential opponents.
Speaker 1: Now he got very lucky with the financial downturn and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. But the messianic uniter role.
Speaker 1: If the Democrats had someone who was charismatic, that would
Speaker 1: be the real lane. They really only have two options.
Speaker 1: You only have two options against Trump scorched earth, socialist lunacy,
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, what are you talking about. It's not just
Speaker 1: you know, lighten a few forest fires. Or the other
Speaker 1: alternative would be to bring someone forward who is charismatic
Speaker 1: and poses as a uniter while trying to get us
Speaker 1: to that socialist future. Right, the head fake Democrats so
Speaker 1: effectively stretching back for as long as I've been able
Speaker 1: to pay attention to the news, pretend to be one
Speaker 1: thing to get votes, and then govern a different way
Speaker 1: when they're in power, and that option, if they were
Speaker 1: really looking to be able to fee Trump, I think
Speaker 1: that would be the much more realistic path, much better
Speaker 1: path for them. Essentially, put someone forward who's a good salesperson,
Speaker 1: who's charismatic, and who lies about what Democrats want. That's
Speaker 1: what Biden was supposed to be for them. But he's
Speaker 1: not good enough at it. That's what Bloomberg they're hoping now. Well, no,
Speaker 1: Bloomberg's just supposed to buy it. I mean he actually
Speaker 1: said last night when they're talking about congressional race, He's like,
Speaker 1: I bought that that should be Bloomberg's twenty twenty bumper sticker.
Speaker 1: I bought that. Whatever it is, doesn't matter. I bought that.
Speaker 1: And this is what you see the Democratic Party doing
Speaker 1: right now. They've had this choice between trying to put
Speaker 1: forward someone who will unite the party versus trying to
Speaker 1: have somebody who's just going to divide it, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: unite the country versus somebody who's going to further exacerbate
Speaker 1: the division. And they've just gone. They've gone with the
Speaker 1: craziest left wing loon they can possibly find. And they
Speaker 1: wonder why. There are a lot of people who have
Speaker 1: been in politics for a long time who're watching this thing.
Speaker 1: Sank Democrats, stop being crazy. You're out of your minds.
Speaker 1: Who knows how this is really going to shake out,
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be. This is gonna be the best
Speaker 1: year ever to cover American politics. That is a promise
Speaker 1: that I can make to you and I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Well, you're right. The economy is doing really
Speaker 1: great for people like mister Bloolberg and all the billionaires
Speaker 1: in the last three years, last three years, billionaires in
Speaker 1: this country sort an eight hundred and fifty billion dollars
Speaker 1: increase in their wealth. But you know what, to the
Speaker 1: ordinary American things are not so good. The question you
Speaker 1: might have thought was what does Bernie Sanders think about billionaires?
Speaker 1: You know what? The question was, what should well, what
Speaker 1: should you make of the really low unemployment rate under
Speaker 1: President Trump? And why should we think that you'd be
Speaker 1: better at this? Bernie Sanders, I've been saying, not even
Speaker 1: a good socialist. Let's bring in David Harsani. He's a
Speaker 1: friend of the show. He writes over a National Review.
Speaker 1: He's doing great stuff on National review dot com with
Speaker 1: regard to Bernie Sanders defensive authoritarian regimes and how crazy
Speaker 1: it is. David, what do you think of I wanted
Speaker 1: to just run with this premise for a second. I
Speaker 1: don't even think Bernie Sanders is a learned socialist. I
Speaker 1: think he's just like a street corner demagogue. On socialism.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think he's just trying
Speaker 1: to find a way to talk about it without sounding
Speaker 1: like a crazy leftist that he is and that he's
Speaker 1: been forever. I mean, I don't know how learned he is,
Speaker 1: but I know that he's you know, he's ridiculous and
Speaker 1: lying about how lying about the last forty five years
Speaker 1: and how the last three years, and lies about everything
Speaker 1: about how Americans are doing better. I mean, by almost
Speaker 1: any standard, American life is better now. I mean, but
Speaker 1: if I and I know that we could never really
Speaker 1: find this out, of course he would say yes. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think that Sanders has he read Marks Angles,
Speaker 1: has he read Bakhudin as he? I mean, do you
Speaker 1: think you think that he actually understands the philosophical roots
Speaker 1: of the ideology that he's now trying to foist upon America?
Speaker 1: Or does he just understand the slogans. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a scholar or anything. But I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: probably when he was young, you probably picked up you know,
Speaker 1: maw or Marx or and read into it and dabbled.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such nonsense in general that I don't
Speaker 1: think you can really be learned about it because it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense and it's always sort of flexible, as
Speaker 1: you hear. But do you think he really believed? But
Speaker 1: you think he really believes it, I guess this is
Speaker 1: an even more important question. Is he a true believer?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, I think so. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: growing up, whether I did in New York, I knew
Speaker 1: people like him. I mean, no one took them seriously.
Speaker 1: It's like your raging commie uncle, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and you know your red diaper baby people like that.
Speaker 1: He is one of them. I recognize it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he you know, that's why he has nice things to
Speaker 1: say about the Vietcong or or Castro or or Tega.
Speaker 1: That's who he is. I really believe that. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know, he's asked a question about low unemployment
Speaker 1: and he runs off on this rant about billionaires again,
Speaker 1: and this is farcical. Oh. I mean, basically he the
Speaker 1: inequality card, right, I mean, that's what he needs to
Speaker 1: rely on. He can't say the economy is actually the
Speaker 1: economy is terrible because it's nonsense. Most normal personal look
Speaker 1: outside and see that that's not true. Obviously, there are
Speaker 1: always some people who are suffering, but there aren't enough
Speaker 1: people suffering from TAC Like an actual, you know, full
Speaker 1: blown socialist, he has to rely on targeting millionaires. You know,
Speaker 1: he is about class. He cares about class differences, and
Speaker 1: that's what he's going to rely on. And no one
Speaker 1: likes a billionaire, right, So that's this talking point over
Speaker 1: and over again. I want to get into how we
Speaker 1: got here where a socialist looks like he's going to
Speaker 1: be the Democrat. I mean, in a sense, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like to poke fun of the Democrats for how I'm
Speaker 1: saying this is, but it's also an America problem, and
Speaker 1: I do want to keep that in mind that we've
Speaker 1: come to this point as a country where this is
Speaker 1: even being seriously considered. But first, I mean, just anything
Speaker 1: for you last night and the debate him. The big
Speaker 1: takeaway that most people had was that it was a
Speaker 1: terrible debate with bad questions, and we didn't learn anything new.
Speaker 1: At least that was what I saw. What you did
Speaker 1: you have anything that you thought, okay, well that was
Speaker 1: worthwhile or that's a reminder of something that at least
Speaker 1: we should see. No, I thought that to me, it
Speaker 1: was terrible. I think we learned anything. Maybe we learned
Speaker 1: that Sanders is actually not going to be great when
Speaker 1: someone's full blown, you know, attacking him, you know, just
Speaker 1: full frontal attack on him. I think he's not going
Speaker 1: to react well. And these people who he's around rarely
Speaker 1: have attacked him for his actual ideas being crazy. It's
Speaker 1: more like, oh, we haven't evolved to that yet. People
Speaker 1: aren't ready for that yet. Well, that's not what Trump's
Speaker 1: gonna do. Trump's gonna call him acami or whatever he
Speaker 1: comes up with, and he's going to constantly call him that.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to defend it. Do you have concerns?
Speaker 1: You know, we had we had Ram Emmanuel before. I
Speaker 1: think we played a sound by from We've had all
Speaker 1: these different Democrats now, I mean David Axelrod I love
Speaker 1: because he comes out and says, Bernie Sanders is not
Speaker 1: a socialist. So we know that that's going to be
Speaker 1: a thing, right that the guy who walks around saying
Speaker 1: nothing but I'm a socialist, We're gonna be told he's
Speaker 1: not a socialist because you know, up is down and
Speaker 1: down is up. But the Democrats that are worried that
Speaker 1: this is going to lead to not just a presidential loss,
Speaker 1: but a possible electoral wipe out across the board. How
Speaker 1: would you gauge your confidence all because I do remember
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen with Trump, everybody thought Hillary was going to
Speaker 1: win pretty much. No, I'm not one of the people
Speaker 1: who thinks that Bernie is going to lose for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of the people who thinks that that
Speaker 1: it's going to translate into you know, sweeps for the Republicans.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think people, especially when it comes to Trump.
Speaker 1: Obviously I was wrong about that election, But more than that,
Speaker 1: I think people compartmentalize who they vote for, and they
Speaker 1: can treat Bernie as his own thing, and just as
Speaker 1: they treat Trump as his own thing. You have a
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans, you know, with bigger vote margins and
Speaker 1: in some states than than Trump had. And you have
Speaker 1: a governor here in Maryland for instance, who is a Republican,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Trump. So I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not sold on that idea. No, I am sold on
Speaker 1: the idea that Bernie is a real socialist. Just because
Speaker 1: a person can't get done what he wants done does
Speaker 1: not mean that that's not what he is. You know,
Speaker 1: he just think where he knows. Listen, he can't say
Speaker 1: we're going to nationalize every industry because it's impossible. So instead,
Speaker 1: you know, he does it a different way. He does
Speaker 1: it incrementally. He's a socialist. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of amazed we're going to see this. We're also going
Speaker 1: to have a large chunk of the Democrat corporate media
Speaker 1: that has been very cautious and or hustle to Bernie
Speaker 1: for a while. If he becomes a nominee, that's all
Speaker 1: going to just disappear. And I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: fascinating because real quick, do you think there'll be a
Speaker 1: never Bernie movement among Democrats? I feel like they're lust
Speaker 1: for power. Will that will never exist? I don't think
Speaker 1: you will exist. Maybe you know during the primaries there'll
Speaker 1: be a faction like that, but I think that will.
Speaker 1: There will be no major anti Bernie movement, and they
Speaker 1: certainly won't dominate television in the way that they never
Speaker 1: Trumpers do. I want to come back and ask you
Speaker 1: about how we got here. We got David Harsani, everybody
Speaker 1: of National Review, stay with us. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast,
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Speaker 1: right back with David Harsany Nashalview dot com for his
Speaker 1: latest on this. David, I know, you know you've been
Speaker 1: writing about this. You know, I read the other day
Speaker 1: on air just an old, an old you know, Peace
Speaker 1: and the Press about how they used to drain the
Speaker 1: blood from execution victims, you know, political executions and Castro
Speaker 1: and Castro's Cuba before selling it to the Vietcong. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a really scary, bad regime. Bernie Sanders still
Speaker 1: likes to say nice things about it, even after he's
Speaker 1: had this initial stumble. What do you make of that? Well,
Speaker 1: even today, you know, in the past he is basically
Speaker 1: any tyrant. It was a Communist that he was asked
Speaker 1: about he defended in some way. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: every single one during his life's time that I can
Speaker 1: see um, And even today he can't say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I was wrong about Castro. I mean, that guy was terrible.
Speaker 1: He has to say there was a literacy program he liked,
Speaker 1: as if communism wasn't, as if you needed communism to
Speaker 1: have a literacy program. You know, again, a lot of
Speaker 1: people pointed this out, but obviously no one says, boy,
Speaker 1: you know it was a real you know, environmentalist it was.
Speaker 1: That was a good part. We can't only say the
Speaker 1: bat you know, talk about the bad things. It's preposterous.
Speaker 1: He does it because he has an ideological uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he has ideological kins ship with what Castro has done there.
Speaker 1: And maybe he doesn't like the authoritarianism, but that goes
Speaker 1: hand in hand. It goes hand in hand every single time,
Speaker 1: because you can't have real socialism without compelling people to
Speaker 1: participate in stealing their property and making them do things.
Speaker 1: So he has never been asked to explain what in
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union he thinks was great that we should adopt,
Speaker 1: as he said at the time, because no one asks
Speaker 1: him tough questions, and that Castro question was the toughest
Speaker 1: thing has been asked. What was for you? What's the
Speaker 1: scariest thing about a possible Bernie Sanders presidency. He keeps
Speaker 1: deflecting to every he says this thing about you know,
Speaker 1: every other industrialized country has managed to do this, which
Speaker 1: is obviously very hazy on the details. But you know what,
Speaker 1: what is your response when people say, oh, we can't
Speaker 1: we can't be Sweden. We can't be Denmark. That's all
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders wants. If we were Denmark, we'd have a
Speaker 1: very very high tax rates for the middle class and
Speaker 1: the poor as well. There is not they partly have
Speaker 1: any progressive taxation compared we have much bigger progressive taxation.
Speaker 1: They don't want them Mark here and they don't even
Speaker 1: understand what's going on in Denmark and nor any of
Speaker 1: the Scandinavian countries where they have capitalistic, capitalistic engine in
Speaker 1: a small country that you know that in a healthy
Speaker 1: not healthy, but a generous welfare program. That's not what
Speaker 1: he wants. He wants to nationalize healthcare in this country.
Speaker 1: He wants to nationalize the energy sector in this country.
Speaker 1: And you know that's my answers basically, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you know, most people who keep saying, oh,
Speaker 1: why can't we be like Scandinavia have no clue what's
Speaker 1: even going on there. The Swedish rejected socialism after the
Speaker 1: seventies and embrace it. Yeah, Now, this is what I've
Speaker 1: been telling the audience, So I'm glad to hear that's
Speaker 1: the same. That's the same way with like Uron, how
Speaker 1: do we how do we get to this point? Though,
Speaker 1: I know you're going to be writing a National Review
Speaker 1: in the next day or so about this specifically, you know,
Speaker 1: what has been the cultural transition rather than the cultural
Speaker 1: process that has brought us to a point where a
Speaker 1: straight up socialist can be a serious content or for
Speaker 1: the American presidency. Well, just to be preface this by saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I've mentioned it on this show, that
Speaker 1: I am passionate about this, mostly because I think my
Speaker 1: parents were defectors from a communist country and to see
Speaker 1: them still alive having to think about what a social
Speaker 1: is becoming president, it's actually pretty horrifying for me. Lad
Speaker 1: I want to dig in it for a second day.
Speaker 1: And what did they tell you about? What was it like?
Speaker 1: What was it like in the old country. It was
Speaker 1: like that they gave up everything and left their family
Speaker 1: to come here because it was horrible, That's what it
Speaker 1: was like. I mean, they're from Hungary and it wasn't
Speaker 1: Let's remember, Hungary wasn't the worst of the communist countries,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as authoritarianism was concerned, wasn't as
Speaker 1: probably as bad as Easia, German or the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: But it was bad enough where you couldn't you were
Speaker 1: told what to do, you were told what you could buy,
Speaker 1: you told what you can you know, become in life.
Speaker 1: And they didn't like that, so they gave up everything
Speaker 1: to come here, thankfully. And so to me it's personal
Speaker 1: as well to hear people, to hear someone like Bernie
Speaker 1: saying the same kinds of things that I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about and studying for a long time, probably because of
Speaker 1: my parents and growing up. You know, culturally, we never
Speaker 1: treated socialism as we should have, or the or communism
Speaker 1: as we should have. I was thinking the other day
Speaker 1: about how everyone in this country knows what the Holocausts are.
Speaker 1: Most people, I hope, who educated people do. They've seen
Speaker 1: pictures of it, they understand the depth in humanity of it.
Speaker 1: How many people here have heard of the greatly be
Speaker 1: Forward or how many people here know that there was
Speaker 1: a Ukrainian famine where far more people died than the Holocaust.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't know that, they don't see pictures
Speaker 1: because the academics in this country, the cultural stewards you know,
Speaker 1: of this country don't care about that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: They have whitewash communism and whitewash socialism. Why I've been
Speaker 1: telling I've been telling everyone listens for a while to
Speaker 1: read The Great Terror by Robert Conquest, which is which
Speaker 1: is a study of effectively how academics in the West,
Speaker 1: the UK, and America pretended that the Great Purges under
Speaker 1: Stalin didn't happen. Millions and millions and millions of people tortured, murdered, starve, killed,
Speaker 1: sent to Siberia. All of the people act like that
Speaker 1: didn't happen, right, or yeah, or they're apologists for the things,
Speaker 1: or even yesterday. So I forget his name, but he
Speaker 1: was at BuzzFeed once saying America is just as bad
Speaker 1: as Cuba, or even just as bad. You know, we
Speaker 1: are forced to say the pleasure of allegiance in school.
Speaker 1: Also like these. Sometimes I wonder if they're just not
Speaker 1: educated enough, or if they fool themselves or they don't care.
Speaker 1: But generally, I think what happens is that socialism is enticing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a religious It's about feels, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I want to help the poor, I
Speaker 1: want to make people equal, and whether the Soviet unions
Speaker 1: around or not around, people will embrace that. The Soviet
Speaker 1: Union was around, Burnie embraced that he didn't care. So
Speaker 1: it's not just about not being around for that stuff.
Speaker 1: And first of all, we are around for that stuff, right,
Speaker 1: You have Venezuela of China, you have North Korea and
Speaker 1: other countries, so you're around for it. They just don't care.
Speaker 1: They think they can do it better and do it right.
Speaker 1: And again, I just I want to quickly say, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Burnie is Stalin, but I am saying no
Speaker 1: works around saying hey, I'm a democratic fascist, right because
Speaker 1: it would be preposterous, just as it's preposterous as the
Speaker 1: same a democratic social And so you feel like if
Speaker 1: if people understood that that Bernie Sanders is not representing
Speaker 1: a future for because I think the American left largely,
Speaker 1: I mean, there are the true radicals that want total
Speaker 1: social justice based economic reorganization and upheaval, but I think
Speaker 1: that in that for a lot of more normal democrats,
Speaker 1: however you want to define that, they're like, we're just
Speaker 1: trying to be more like Europe, That's what they say.
Speaker 1: And this is general thing of we're just going to
Speaker 1: be more like Europe. What do you say to that?
Speaker 1: I get it, I mean, and I believe that that's
Speaker 1: what most normal Democrats probably want to do. Europe is
Speaker 1: not a success, though we're a success. We're much more
Speaker 1: successful in Europe. The more you organize and have coped
Speaker 1: down control of the economy, the more stagnant your society is,
Speaker 1: the less growth there is. I just don't understand. Here's
Speaker 1: really what my problem is. I just don't understand what
Speaker 1: people are talking about. The act like we're in the middle.
Speaker 1: You know that we're nineteen seventeen Russia here or something
Speaker 1: like that. We're not. We're getting better. Everything's getting better,
Speaker 1: we're living longer. To to try to now control the economy,
Speaker 1: to have someone take over your healthcare because it's it's expensive.
Speaker 1: I mean that has never worked, and healthcare is expanded.
Speaker 1: The two things that are outrageously expensive in comparison to
Speaker 1: what they used to be are two, as I like
Speaker 1: to point out, two of the most heavily government regulated
Speaker 1: and government involved areas of the economy healthcare and education, right,
Speaker 1: and also housing has gone up as well. But you
Speaker 1: know it is more expensive, but no one says things
Speaker 1: have to be cheaper forever. You also get a lot more,
Speaker 1: we live longer, with less pain, We have incredible technological
Speaker 1: advances in medicine, and one day they're going to be
Speaker 1: cheaper and when you know, when we learn how to
Speaker 1: be more productive making those things, and the idea that
Speaker 1: we should hand that over to government, to me is
Speaker 1: just it's un American, and you know, and I hope
Speaker 1: that enough Democrats realize that. Though I don't know how
Speaker 1: you st I actually think, and I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: you know, more people to at least hear me out
Speaker 1: on this theory. There was a huge surge towards socialism
Speaker 1: during and after the Great Depression in America in the West.
Speaker 1: The idea was that capitalism had failed and that socialism
Speaker 1: was the future. Right. This is and this was it
Speaker 1: was communist propaganda, but this is what was believed by
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, British, British intellectuals, American journalists.
Speaker 1: I think that we've ventured a period where America is
Speaker 1: actually so peaceful and so prosperous that now we almost
Speaker 1: have the opposite problem. Who everyone's thinking, well, if we
Speaker 1: only gave the government more control, we could completely eradicate
Speaker 1: we essentially could get to utopia. We can completely eradicate
Speaker 1: poverty and pain and illness and all these other things. Now,
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that people don't listen.
Speaker 1: There's always going to be a segment of a population
Speaker 1: that's suffering, obviously, so there are problems. We don't live
Speaker 1: in utopia. It's never going to be that way. But
Speaker 1: I do think that we have so few problems or another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I agree with what you're saying. But I think
Speaker 1: another problem is we look at our political environment, which
Speaker 1: is ridiculous right now and has been for a while,
Speaker 1: and we sort of transpose that onto the real world.
Speaker 1: The real world is nothing like that. I live amongst
Speaker 1: my neighbors very peacefully. Everything was going pretty good for
Speaker 1: their lives, and but then they look at the havoc
Speaker 1: of politics and they think that that's how the country
Speaker 1: is in general, when it's not. So. I think I
Speaker 1: think people have the wrong even though I don't know.
Speaker 1: There were poles of Gallipole showed that most people are
Speaker 1: pretty happy in etc. But I think the people think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of turmoil when really they have less
Speaker 1: turmoil that than they've ever had in history. And what
Speaker 1: about the points about the middle? You know, this keeps
Speaker 1: coming up to the middle class have it worse. The
Speaker 1: middle class have it worse. I mean I've seen some
Speaker 1: serious right leaning I guess you could say economists who
Speaker 1: will point out that, you know, my parents generation, for example,
Speaker 1: there were things that were you know, less, there were
Speaker 1: things that were less expensive even when adjusted for inflation
Speaker 1: and everything else. It seems like you're telling me also, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know you can around a supercomputer in your
Speaker 1: pocket and are going to live like fifteen years longer
Speaker 1: and healthier, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, how do you deal
Speaker 1: with the middle class is getting a raw deal? Right?
Speaker 1: This is what all those democrats say. What's the truth
Speaker 1: of that? Well, the right leaning people you're talking about
Speaker 1: are not serious in my book, But I will tell
Speaker 1: you this, Yes, some things are more expensive, it seems
Speaker 1: to me, how is this, for instance, but they're also
Speaker 1: a million times nicer. I mean, I mean that they're bigger,
Speaker 1: they're more beautiful, they're better built, they're safer. There are
Speaker 1: very few things today that are Take a car. I
Speaker 1: just saw a just saw a study on cars that
Speaker 1: when when I was a kid, that people would have
Speaker 1: their cars like five six years whatever it was. Now
Speaker 1: cars ten years later are running people have to return them.
Speaker 1: They're still in like really good shape. They could run,
Speaker 1: you know, they could go two hundred thousand miles and
Speaker 1: there would be no problem. Everything we have is a
Speaker 1: better quality. A dollar I spend on something on medical care,
Speaker 1: for instance, is far more useful today than it was
Speaker 1: back then. The idea that the middle classes stuff. First
Speaker 1: of all, the middle class is growing, the upper middle
Speaker 1: class is growing. We're not getting poor, we're getting richer.
Speaker 1: And people don't want to accept this for some reason.
Speaker 1: But the country is better now. Obviously, we have some
Speaker 1: social problems, and you know, the the overdoses and all
Speaker 1: of that, and they were people. You know, those are
Speaker 1: moral problems and ethnic problems and communal problems. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that a government can solve those things, you know.
Speaker 1: I just have never seen that happen before, where government
Speaker 1: solves your depression. For instance, David Harsani dropping happy truth
Speaker 1: bombs for all of us to hear, I mean, telling
Speaker 1: us that things actually are getting better. David's stuff will
Speaker 1: be up at nashurreview dot com. Reading there, follow him
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Last name kind of spelled like it sounds
Speaker 1: h A R S A n y I. David, thanks
Speaker 1: so much man any time. Thank you, You're enough freedom.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Damn, we got
Speaker 1: another bomb drop by Project Veritas here. This time it's
Speaker 1: an ABC News correspondent who has been It's just spended
Speaker 1: in advance of what will be a Project very Toss
Speaker 1: video released. Veteran reporter David Wright was suspended. We have
Speaker 1: some of the audio producer mark Project Veritas tricks again.
Speaker 1: Play it keeping. Yeah, voters are guys like I'm a socialist. Okay,
Speaker 1: now this gets very interesting for me on a few levels. One,
Speaker 1: I think the Project Veritas has done some the best
Speaker 1: undercover the most important undercover videos all they actually make
Speaker 1: you want to throw up when you watch them that
Speaker 1: I've ever seen were from David de Laydon and the
Speaker 1: Center for Medical Progress. And the fact that that did
Speaker 1: not result in a complete national revulsion and change in
Speaker 1: the view of abortion and abortion laws is a stain
Speaker 1: on this country's honor and integrity. But Product for artas
Speaker 1: does some good stuff. James o'keith is a brave guy
Speaker 1: who works hard at what he does. I have been
Speaker 1: a little critical in the past, and I would continue
Speaker 1: to be about posing as a colleague slash friend of
Speaker 1: somebody in off hours who happens to work for a
Speaker 1: news organization who's kind of like a you know, getting
Speaker 1: some ap assistant producer, some effectively close to entry level
Speaker 1: person or somebody who's you know, maybe a couple runs
Speaker 1: up the ladder from that and having them say some
Speaker 1: stuff and then exposing that and getting them in trouble
Speaker 1: and ruining their career. You know, I think, I think
Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta be willing to draw some
Speaker 1: lines here. And it's one thing if you can get
Speaker 1: like a CNN anchor being like, yeah, I'm a socialist
Speaker 1: and I hate Republicans and I pretend to be neutral
Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, that's that, you know, you can break
Speaker 1: break the confidence of somebody that you're posing as you know,
Speaker 1: somebody having a normal conversation with. But the other stuff,
Speaker 1: I think Project Veritas has gone after some people that
Speaker 1: are a little too low level in my opinion. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to say it. So I don't like everything
Speaker 1: that they do on this exposing bias realm that said
Speaker 1: they are doing the work, and this guy I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that much about the hierarchy
Speaker 1: over at ABC News, but this guy's a senior correspondent.
Speaker 1: He's been around for a long time, and he's getting
Speaker 1: in trouble here for saying what we essentially already know
Speaker 1: to be the case, what we already know to be true,
Speaker 1: and that is that these networks CBS to this debate
Speaker 1: last night ABC. These are lib networks that are clinging
Speaker 1: to this fiction that they're neutral, and it's because that
Speaker 1: gives them an advantage over their competitors, because they hold
Speaker 1: themselves up as, oh see, we're the real journalists, we
Speaker 1: do the honest journalism here. And they're these massive legacy
Speaker 1: institutions with a huge amount of corporate money and power
Speaker 1: behind them, and so they still have I mean, ABC
Speaker 1: News has ten million people watching in a night. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to watch like a male model read
Speaker 1: off of a prompter, you can do that on any
Speaker 1: channel base. I don't know why people do. Oh that
Speaker 1: could David and Weird, you know. I'm like, okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna see them take his shirt off? Like why is
Speaker 1: everyone so excited about watching this thirty minute broadcast? That's
Speaker 1: so And it always ends too with like oh on
Speaker 1: a hoppy story of like ducks on a palm that
Speaker 1: you know, found their mother. I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: think this format is hopefully going away soon. You know,
Speaker 1: ABC they run this programming all day and then then
Speaker 1: they throw on a news broadcast for thirty minutes or
Speaker 1: whatever it is at night. Same thing with CBS evening news.
Speaker 1: Like why why does anybody think that they should watch this?
Speaker 1: And it's old habits. I mean, it goes back to
Speaker 1: when people that was their only option and they're used
Speaker 1: to doing that, and so they keep doing it. But
Speaker 1: they cling to this fiction because it gives them an
Speaker 1: advantage over their competitors, and it should go away. A
Speaker 1: well educated news consumer understands that ABC, CBS, NBC, they
Speaker 1: are liberal networks. They're pushing a liberal agenda. Their anchors
Speaker 1: are generally unimpressive and don't know very much about politics
Speaker 1: or the world, and this is just the reality we
Speaker 1: live in. So this senior guy saying that they spike
Speaker 1: stories that are pro Trump, they run stories that are
Speaker 1: anti Trump, he's a socialist, just confirmation of what we
Speaker 1: already know. And if he's a senior enough guy, I
Speaker 1: mean I think that that's I think then that justifies
Speaker 1: the undercover approach to get this information about about this individual,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I think that I think that
Speaker 1: this one probably clears the bar for me in terms
Speaker 1: of a project very toss sting operation. You know, getting
Speaker 1: some guy who's like a glorified intern to talk about
Speaker 1: the Bernie Revolution, you know, I think you're just getting
Speaker 1: somebody in trouble. It doesn't really do all that much.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, project very tas got another guy telling
Speaker 1: us what we know. Add this one onto the list
Speaker 1: for Oh, you mean that a major news network is
Speaker 1: really biased and people shouldn't believe them and they pretend
Speaker 1: to be objective journalists. Yes, thanks for listening to The
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Speaker 1: joined by the one and only Matt Wall. She has
Speaker 1: a new book out, Church of Cowards. He's going to
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Speaker 1: or Matt. Great to have you back on the show. Yeah, great, spear,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me back. All right, well let's start
Speaker 1: with let's start with the book and then I'll get
Speaker 1: into a little bit of current events, if that's all right.
Speaker 1: So Church of Cowards a wake up call to complacent Christians.
Speaker 1: What do you want complains and Christians to know? Well,
Speaker 1: I think you know when you when you look at
Speaker 1: at the situation of the church. I think most most Christians,
Speaker 1: most believe in Christians, realize that we have a problem,
Speaker 1: that the church is dying. Essentially, not to not to
Speaker 1: be too dramatic about it, but when you see that,
Speaker 1: when you see the statistics of younger generation leaving the church,
Speaker 1: especially when he gets around college age, and faith is dwindling,
Speaker 1: you look, and you look even more specifically, yet the
Speaker 1: number of Christians who will affirm even the most basic
Speaker 1: doctrinal points of Christianity, those numbers are going down. Why
Speaker 1: is that, That's the question. And I think the answer
Speaker 1: is that in our culture in the West, as opposed
Speaker 1: to out in the East, in the Middle East and
Speaker 1: places in Africa where they have real violent persecution they faced,
Speaker 1: we don't face that. Our problem is almost exactly the opposite,
Speaker 1: where we're far too comfortable and we're sort of just
Speaker 1: drifting along on the tide of the culture. And going
Speaker 1: wherever and it takes us, and in this case, it's
Speaker 1: taking us right into faithlessness and secularism and relativism. And
Speaker 1: so this book is trying to call attention to that
Speaker 1: and basically hoping to rally Christians to resist that tide,
Speaker 1: because I think we've been just drifting with it for
Speaker 1: far too long. Why is that? I mean, people talk
Speaker 1: a lot about the culture and the influences that one
Speaker 1: has from just you know, TV movies, what's cool, you know,
Speaker 1: the VMAs, all this stuff. It tends to not be
Speaker 1: in line with it, with it, you say, a traditional
Speaker 1: Christian morality. Is there a way to infuse the culture
Speaker 1: with more of that? Or is that a pipe dream?
Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well? I think it
Speaker 1: has to start. It has to start with the church.
Speaker 1: And when I say the church, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Christianity generally, churches in general. It has has to start there.
Speaker 1: And I think what the problem is that many churches
Speaker 1: for a long time and Christian leaders have been scared,
Speaker 1: have been very reluctant. I've been scared to challenge their flocks,
Speaker 1: especially morally, you know, to have a real moral message
Speaker 1: to call them to sacrifice and repent in these things,
Speaker 1: and so it has to has to be to begin
Speaker 1: with that. You know, we can we can't be afraid
Speaker 1: to engage on a moral level, um, and we can't
Speaker 1: be afraid of of engaging the culture, which is which
Speaker 1: has been the case, which has been the case for
Speaker 1: so long. Now. You're a Catholic, I'm a Catholic. What
Speaker 1: do you think of this Pope? You know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm a big I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of the pope. My, my biggest, the biggest issue with
Speaker 1: with Pope Francis is that the one thing we need
Speaker 1: as Catholics and as Christians generally is moral clarity and direction.
Speaker 1: And that's the exact opposite of what we've been getting
Speaker 1: from the Vatican for years now, where it's just confusion,
Speaker 1: it's haziness. And you know, it sounds like the Pope
Speaker 1: is suggesting that this or that change to be made.
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's even challenging some really fundamental points
Speaker 1: of doctrine, and that's what it sounds like. And then
Speaker 1: we're told no by the Vaticaneau, it's not exactly what
Speaker 1: he meant. But what did he mean? I don't know,
Speaker 1: and it's just been the same game that's been played
Speaker 1: for years now. And all it does it confuses people,
Speaker 1: and it makes devout Catholics feel betrayed, and it makes
Speaker 1: us feel like, well, what you know, it makes us
Speaker 1: feel like the Pope does just doesn't care the situation
Speaker 1: that we're in, or doesn't doesn't realize what it's like
Speaker 1: for us in this culture. Now, forty one senators Democratic
Speaker 1: senators just voted against giving medical care when babies are
Speaker 1: born alive during an abortion procedure. Democrats claim it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: I know this happens. We know this happens. There are
Speaker 1: people that have testified about it happening to them, but
Speaker 1: then they go ahead and vote against this after saying
Speaker 1: it's not a thing. Then they say, well, even if
Speaker 1: it is a thing, we're not going to give protection
Speaker 1: to babies who are born alive during an abortion procedure.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you know, what do you think
Speaker 1: should be the appropriate what is the appropriate response from
Speaker 1: I don't mean it focus too much here in the
Speaker 1: Catholic church, but it is an area where I think
Speaker 1: you and I have some similar views on this. Pelosi Biden,
Speaker 1: people who I think Biden. Yeah, Biden claims to be
Speaker 1: Catholic as well. I know Pelosi will talk about her faith.
Speaker 1: What should be done When someone like Nancy Pelosi, for example,
Speaker 1: supports publicly as a as a leader and as a legislator,
Speaker 1: a legislator abortion for all nine months of her pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and then turns around and talks about how her Catholic
Speaker 1: faith informs her love for everybody, I think it's just
Speaker 1: a total mockery and a disgrace that these politics are
Speaker 1: allowed to continue. Obviously, the Catholic Church can't stop them
Speaker 1: from saying whatever they want to say. But the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church can say, well, if you're if this is a
Speaker 1: position you're going to take, and you're going to try
Speaker 1: to lead people into scandal and sin publicly, then you're
Speaker 1: not going to do it as a Catholic and they
Speaker 1: should be excommunicated. This is a this is a tool
Speaker 1: that the Catholic Church has under its belt, and maybe
Speaker 1: there was a time when it was a little bit
Speaker 1: too liberal in its use of it, but in recent
Speaker 1: years and decades, it's it just seems like there's nothing
Speaker 1: that a Catholic can do, apparently at least in the West,
Speaker 1: to get themselves excommunicate. But this is this is supposed
Speaker 1: to be exactly the situation it gets you as communicate.
Speaker 1: When you're on a public stage and you're denying basic
Speaker 1: fundamental doctrines of the Catholic Church and trying to importantly
Speaker 1: lead other people into denying it as well, that's when
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church is supposed to state, No, you're not
Speaker 1: that this is you're you're not in you're clearly not
Speaker 1: in communion with us, and so you know, hit the
Speaker 1: bricks basically, and that's what should be said. There's there's
Speaker 1: no argument I can see, you know, for allowing this
Speaker 1: to continue the way the church has. What do you
Speaker 1: make of Pope Pete's speaking of popes. Pope, by the way,
Speaker 1: speaking to Matt Walsh, who has a new book out
Speaker 1: that you all should check out. You probably know Matt
Speaker 1: from the Daily Wire. His book is Church of Cowards,
Speaker 1: a wake up called the Complacent Christians. Uh yeah, but
Speaker 1: Pope he seems to, even when it's not necessary, fall
Speaker 1: back on this. Let me lecture Christians who are Republicans
Speaker 1: or conservatives about the immorality of their side. Well, what's
Speaker 1: the Matt Walsh take on all that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting that Republicans are, though, are the ones
Speaker 1: who are accused of being Bible thumpers all the time.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, Pope pe or pastor pas I've called
Speaker 1: you gave him that, you gave him the uh you know,
Speaker 1: you're promoted him my guests to pope. But he's the
Speaker 1: one who brings up the Bible, constantly brings up, brings
Speaker 1: his faith into it all the time, which I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have a problem with if it wasn't number one, for
Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of it. But number two that he's that
Speaker 1: he's distorting the biblical message support some of the worst
Speaker 1: moral outrages that the world has ever seen. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is in favor of abortion at every stage of development.
Speaker 1: He was given a chance recently at I think it
Speaker 1: was a town hall, he was given a chance to
Speaker 1: at least come out against partial birth abortion, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, the killing of a baby literally as it's
Speaker 1: being born and emerging from the birth canal. And he
Speaker 1: wouldn't come out against that. He apparently has no problem
Speaker 1: with that. And yet he's trying to use his faith
Speaker 1: as a as a cudgel to beat other people with
Speaker 1: and it's just absolutely hypocritical and wrong. And man, I
Speaker 1: also want to get your take on what do you
Speaker 1: see happening right now that we had the debate last night.
Speaker 1: What do you see happening right now in this democratic field?
Speaker 1: Are are you concerned that Bernie Sanders, if he becomes
Speaker 1: the nominee, can actually win. I think he can win.
Speaker 1: My money wouldn't be wouldn't be on him. I think
Speaker 1: the smart money was starting to be against him winning
Speaker 1: because for all, for all the obvious reasons. At number one,
Speaker 1: he's a communist and it is hard to imagine that
Speaker 1: thirty years after after, you know, we win the Cold
Speaker 1: War and we actually elect the communist president. So that's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine. On top of that, you know, also
Speaker 1: other things. I think the fact that he's going to
Speaker 1: be seventy nine years old at inauguration day, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's also a problem that people recognize him, and
Speaker 1: so many other issues as well. So that's what would
Speaker 1: I think put the odds against him. But I also
Speaker 1: think that many conservatives and Trump supporters have been a
Speaker 1: little bit too cocky and confident, basically guaranteeing that you know,
Speaker 1: he's going to lose forty five states or whatever. Uh,
Speaker 1: he definitely has a chance to win because there are
Speaker 1: other things that are working in his favor. And you
Speaker 1: do you do see some interesting parallels between Bernie twenty
Speaker 1: twenty and Trump twenty sixteen. I mean, this is someone
Speaker 1: who number one, has a very excited core of supporters
Speaker 1: who are not going to abandon him no matter what
Speaker 1: comes out against him, just like just like Trump has
Speaker 1: always had. Trump had a twenty sixteen. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's He's But I think the most important thing
Speaker 1: about Bernie that maybe people don't understand is that his
Speaker 1: message is all about moral outrage. You know, that's his
Speaker 1: entire message. It's not an economic message, it's a moral message.
Speaker 1: And he's he's always out there talking about this is wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, income inequality, and people can't get healthcare, and
Speaker 1: kids with their student loan dead, and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: His whole messages this is wrong, it's evil if we
Speaker 1: have to stand against it. And I think his prescriptions
Speaker 1: for these moral problems are completely wrong. But the fact
Speaker 1: is that's how he's he's rallying people, and it's a
Speaker 1: message that does resonate, and it's the same kind of
Speaker 1: message that Trump has always had. Actually, I think the
Speaker 1: Trump is had a message of you know, the elites
Speaker 1: and the swamp and they're taking advantage over the working man.
Speaker 1: And it's a similar kind of message of moral outrage
Speaker 1: about people being taken advantage of. Um, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a few hundred thousand votes that determine who the next
Speaker 1: president is. I think every needs to remember that too.
Speaker 1: It's it's not going to be like ten million votes
Speaker 1: on one side of the other. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: few hundred thousand in about half a dozen states, right
Speaker 1: right exactly. So any anything to happening when and when
Speaker 1: you throw just like we saw with Trump, do you
Speaker 1: saw somebody like Trump into the mix. It's really hard
Speaker 1: to predict what's going to happen. And I think it's
Speaker 1: the same thing with Bernie's just all all of the
Speaker 1: normal rules that we that we think we know for
Speaker 1: how politics works, they went out the window with Trump.
Speaker 1: With Trump, maybe they go out the window with Bernie too.
Speaker 1: The book is Church of Cowards, a wake up Call
Speaker 1: to complacent Christians Billable on Amazon Now. Matt Walsh is
Speaker 1: the author of the He's at the Daily Wire before
Speaker 1: we let you go, Matt. One last quick one. The
Speaker 1: Avengers movies amazing or garbage? I have to say, I
Speaker 1: think absolutely garbage. But yeah, I'm weird. Mark eat that.
Speaker 1: He says it's garbage too. And Matt Walsh's a wise man,
Speaker 1: so we can address this with later in roll call
Speaker 1: for producer. But Matt, you just made by day of
Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. You're welcome,
Speaker 1: no problem, thanks for having me on. I appreciate You're
Speaker 1: in the freedom hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast,
Speaker 1: got an interesting new store. I wanted to bring your
Speaker 1: attention to team at first, I just want I want
Speaker 1: to let producer Marcus. He was busy making sure that
Speaker 1: the audio quality was perfect on our call. There with
Speaker 1: with with Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: we got We've not got three people at least official
Speaker 1: as the Avengers is not good. Something about I guess
Speaker 1: Republican pundits. Yeah, you don't have time for fun, yeah,
Speaker 1: grumpy Republican pundity. Yeah, we not like the fun. We
Speaker 1: just want everybody reading, you know, souls and nets in
Speaker 1: late at night, you know, so they understand the trials
Speaker 1: and tribulations of the world. So you know, that's something
Speaker 1: we got going. We got that going for us. Which
Speaker 1: I'll be over here in my little fortress having fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll be in the penalty box watching the billion dollar
Speaker 1: French multi billion dollar friends as I think now that
Speaker 1: it is probably billion, you know, actually try to go
Speaker 1: back and watch a little bit of There was an
Speaker 1: old Disney you know. I've been having a lot of
Speaker 1: fun with Disney Plus because I got a family member
Speaker 1: of subscription, you know, so you know, I qu as
Speaker 1: one does. And they had the old X Men cartoon
Speaker 1: from way back. Have you ever seen it? There was
Speaker 1: an x Men cartoon from way back in the day,
Speaker 1: like twenty some odd years ago. Um, and you know
Speaker 1: it was pretty good. It's pretty good. I gotta say
Speaker 1: everything on there, well, anything you can imagine is on
Speaker 1: Disney Plus. I mean, I I gotta tell you, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you have real opinions on this. I've
Speaker 1: seen some of the new Disney stuff just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1: And when I say new, I mean the last ten years. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's just not, in my opinion, the same quality as
Speaker 1: some of the original Disney grates. You know, lady in
Speaker 1: the tramp. Uh you know you go into a sort
Speaker 1: in the stone. Uh you know, all the all the
Speaker 1: other snow white, all those things. I think there are
Speaker 1: a different a different quality than and I tried to
Speaker 1: watch I tried to watch Moana. It's not good. Oh
Speaker 1: my wife loves that, really does. I couldn't have the song.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get And I also, I don't know why
Speaker 1: what's up the newest toy story? That was quality? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I also I took I took a date a while
Speaker 1: back to at at the date's request to Frozen the Musical. Yes,
Speaker 1: did you enjoy it? Um? It was a nice date.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the date. She is lovely the musical. I
Speaker 1: don't even understand what the story is really supposed to be,
Speaker 1: so I haven't watched the car too, but I did
Speaker 1: go to the Broadway show, and it's not clear to
Speaker 1: me exactly. So she like freezes her sister and then
Speaker 1: she goes away because she's afraid that her power of
Speaker 1: freezing will be used too much. And then it turns
Speaker 1: out that her sister is going to marry some bad
Speaker 1: guy and she prevents him from it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like it's a mess. Kids love it, love it. I
Speaker 1: do not understand my wife's little cousin maybe three years old,
Speaker 1: only will dress in Frozen out. Yes, I mean, I
Speaker 1: actually think you could argue the best Disney movies. Beauty
Speaker 1: and the Beast is a fantastic movie. I know people say, oh,
Speaker 1: but well that's a great movie. But I almost one
Speaker 1: best picture that was actually the best live action one.
Speaker 1: Oh really didn't seem a really good one with Hermione
Speaker 1: from Yeah, from from her Mary Potter. I mean, Lion
Speaker 1: King's amazing, A Lion King for what it is. I
Speaker 1: think it's a fantastic cartoon. Aladdin, that's actually one of
Speaker 1: Robin Williams rest in Peace, one of his best things.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly up there with like Missus Doubtfire.
Speaker 1: Um so that Disney cartoons have been amazing and these,
Speaker 1: you know, these cultural icons, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: some of the more recent ones. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: kids love Frozen, though I don't know, I still it
Speaker 1: still makes money for these for the company. I still
Speaker 1: don't understand what the yeah anyway, So you know, I
Speaker 1: go around and I'm not going to talk anymore about
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian, but if you haven't seen you haven't seen
Speaker 1: it yet, but I will point out these cartoons, the
Speaker 1: newer ones. They're they're not four year thirty eight year
Speaker 1: old man. No, No, I get that. But see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying though, is I can I can still appreciate
Speaker 1: like Lady in the Tramp even if you're an adult
Speaker 1: is great. It is through your childhood maybe, yeah, like
Speaker 1: you remember it and gives you that warm feeling that
Speaker 1: you're kid, or or you know, Rob the Robin Hood
Speaker 1: with the Robin Hood as a fox and if you know,
Speaker 1: like those are great cartoons are great to this day.
Speaker 1: So I just you know, so that's right. I don't
Speaker 1: have any of the emotional connection. You know, I saw
Speaker 1: like the Lion came with my parents in the theater.
Speaker 1: I remember. So maybe when you have kids you'll get
Speaker 1: that emotional connection back. Well, no, I'll just have to
Speaker 1: sit there and watch the Disney things they want to
Speaker 1: watch for like hours and hours of time, or I'll
Speaker 1: put them in front of it and I'll get to
Speaker 1: like be on my computer trading. You'll he was like,
Speaker 1: oh whatever, let it go, let it go, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole Yeah, just like that. That's how I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Oh the story I was gonna tell you guys,
Speaker 1: the news stories. That's what're'm talking about. Dis anymore, Um,
Speaker 1: is that the a Court of Let me make sure
Speaker 1: I get this one right. A corn has in fact
Speaker 1: ruled in favor of the administration. This just came down today. Um.
Speaker 1: The Second Circuit has allowed the Justice Department to withhold
Speaker 1: grants from New York City and seven states over sanctuary funding,
Speaker 1: reversing a federal judge's ruling from twenty eighteen. This is big,
Speaker 1: This is big. This is gonna make its way up
Speaker 1: to this court now I think, I mean the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court has to decide to take it. But I could
Speaker 1: see this going all the way because shouldn't the federal
Speaker 1: government if it has a legal request, or if it
Speaker 1: has a legal request of states that it makes and
Speaker 1: it has discretionary funds that it gives them to help
Speaker 1: with that, and then that state or city does not
Speaker 1: provide that assistance, doesn't the federal government as an entity
Speaker 1: then have the ability to pull back those funds. Isn't
Speaker 1: that federalism actually working the way that it's supposed to
Speaker 1: as long as it's tailored in that way. We give
Speaker 1: you law enforcement funds to help us, and we would
Speaker 1: like help on this thing. And it's legal for the
Speaker 1: federal government to ask. This is all about a legal
Speaker 1: immigration now, shouldn't there be the ability for the federal
Speaker 1: government to pull back those funds the fight over sanctuary cities,
Speaker 1: this is you know, the administration should focus in on this.
Speaker 1: There was not a single question and debate last night
Speaker 1: that I can remember, at least, not a single question
Speaker 1: about immigration. Now one it's crazy, not one question about immigration.
Speaker 1: It's nuts. What's when you think? I mean, this is
Speaker 1: seri a huge issue, huge issue for security, for the economy,
Speaker 1: for the future of this country. Everyone's been saying for
Speaker 1: years and years now on both sides, you know, the
Speaker 1: system is broken. We got to fix it, we gotta
Speaker 1: do more. No. Instead, last night it was like a
Speaker 1: bunch of bickering and a wokeness competition at different parts.
Speaker 1: It was really that was really, as we've all agreed,
Speaker 1: who have watched the debate that I've talked to you
Speaker 1: so far, it was a really weak showing. But this
Speaker 1: is something where the administration, I mean, Trump rose to
Speaker 1: prominence in the in the Republican field. He got ahead
Speaker 1: of his competition on the issue of immigration. This is
Speaker 1: where he separated himself and he was willing to say
Speaker 1: the stuff that people needed and wanted to hear about this.
Speaker 1: You know, he was the one who's saying, we used
Speaker 1: to all agree. You know, there used to be this
Speaker 1: consensus on building a wall. There were laws passed by
Speaker 1: Congress about building barriers at the southern border prevented legal entry.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, that's an athema. Now
Speaker 1: that's you know, beyond the pale. You're not allowed to
Speaker 1: have that talk, even you're never mind actually enacted. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy to see that because this is also
Speaker 1: a Bernie Sanders. He's going to lose the left on
Speaker 1: this immigration issue if you push him. He's not. It's
Speaker 1: not really clear where he stands in immigration because it
Speaker 1: conflicts with his his workers. You know, workers of the
Speaker 1: world unite the word I guess workers of America unite thing.
Speaker 1: So this will be interesting to see this play out.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, team Buck, it's time
Speaker 1: for roll call. We got dubstep roll Call intro, and
Speaker 1: I feel like dubstep has has faded out again. You know,
Speaker 1: every it's like every ten years people rediscover some form
Speaker 1: of you know what they call EDM electronic dance music,
Speaker 1: which I think technically is dubstep. Dubstep is right, it's
Speaker 1: like a subcategory DM. It's like communism is a subcategory
Speaker 1: of socialism. Jubstep is a subcategory of the DA. Same
Speaker 1: exact thing, right, same same thing. It's not how I
Speaker 1: think about things, um, but yeah, like I don't see
Speaker 1: that guy's scrillics anymore with the weird haircut and the
Speaker 1: cigarette angling. And I'm sure you're still around. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: probably making like a million dollars a night djaying for
Speaker 1: you know people all over like Austria, Like, yeah, play
Speaker 1: more of the indiam music. Yeah, I think the Chain
Speaker 1: Smokers have taken This is the best point of my life. Wait,
Speaker 1: the Chain Smokers, the band. Yeah, they're like they do
Speaker 1: remixes of songs and they always like collaborate. That's what
Speaker 1: they about, to collaborate with other artists. I had. I've
Speaker 1: had this experience now where I went back because Spotify,
Speaker 1: which is incredible, and actually, you know, I'm on Spotify
Speaker 1: because people from Team Buck made fun of me for
Speaker 1: using Pandora, still saying that I'm a grumpy old man,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't use Pandora. Pandora's for like gen X, not
Speaker 1: quite millennials, right, but in between boomers. And so if
Speaker 1: you're born in like the mid late seventies, you're a
Speaker 1: Pandora user. If you're born in the eighties, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be on Team Spotify. Yeah, and I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: on Apple Music. I get it for free through my
Speaker 1: cell phone. Yeah. Okay, so there. But I went back
Speaker 1: and looked at at all the top songs. It's they're
Speaker 1: not the stuff for the last ten ten years. No
Speaker 1: one's gonna be listening to in ten years. So when
Speaker 1: our parents, as much as I, as much as I
Speaker 1: feel like boomers, love to shove their music down the
Speaker 1: world's throat, you know, every car commercial, it's got to
Speaker 1: be like a rolling Stone song or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: The truth is that that music is timeless in a
Speaker 1: way that a lot of the stuff from the last
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years I don't think will be. I
Speaker 1: think certain artists will be like Adele, you can throw
Speaker 1: out there a lady Gaga, maybe justin Timberlake. It's even
Speaker 1: like that. It's but it's a small subset of the overall.
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, if you put on there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of times now I'll put on a song that
Speaker 1: is even an artist that people don't even really remember
Speaker 1: all that well. I mean, I think this is true
Speaker 1: of eighties music. For example, if you like eighties music,
Speaker 1: there's so many different songs and bands you can put
Speaker 1: on that even if you don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: you're like, I like this. There's a lot of one
Speaker 1: hit wonders in the eighties, Oh for sure. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: look at eighties was kind of a funky time. But
Speaker 1: I just scrill x stub step. I remember that that
Speaker 1: was a huge for a little while, maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 1: And now that type of music, the remixes of actual
Speaker 1: songs is great for when you're working out. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's true. Actually, you know, you know what my favorite
Speaker 1: band all time for working out is actually and their
Speaker 1: politics are horrible. They're they're like actual communists. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're all millionaires, just like Sanders. Rage against the machine.
Speaker 1: If you're working out, rage against the machine gets it,
Speaker 1: gets it done. That's a completely different category of music.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like headbanging. Oh yeah, No, that's like
Speaker 1: that's like heavy. I mean I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's considered heavy. Mat Yeah. I don't think I can
Speaker 1: work out to that. No, but it's really Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of them out, We'll wick. I have a beast Mode
Speaker 1: playlist on Spotify share with you. I'll have to get
Speaker 1: It's got two hundred songs. Man. Wow, I keep it
Speaker 1: fired up in the hut. All right, now, we got
Speaker 1: roll call, we got some of the folks. They've got
Speaker 1: thoughts and things for us, and we appreciate that. Oh
Speaker 1: but when one quick programming note. I will have my
Speaker 1: friend Ben Winegarten in on the show on Friday because
Speaker 1: I have to travel to la to be on the
Speaker 1: Bill Mar Show, which I will be doing this Friday night.
Speaker 1: It is ten eastern on HBO. I believe ten eastern,
Speaker 1: might be nine eastern. I think it's ten eastern. And
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. It's going to be a spicy time,
Speaker 1: a spicy I meet the ball to be a spicy
Speaker 1: time to be on the Bill Mar Show. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. No surprise here, I will be
Speaker 1: the only conservative on the show that night, and that
Speaker 1: audience is not going to be super psyched about what
Speaker 1: I have to say. But you team are the ones
Speaker 1: that I'm speaking to when I do that show, as
Speaker 1: well as triggering literally millions of libs, so that will
Speaker 1: be fun too. But if you get a chance to
Speaker 1: tune in, I'd like to know that the team is
Speaker 1: watching and rooting for me and say nice things to
Speaker 1: me on two afterwards, because man, my twitter mentions after
Speaker 1: I do that show terrifying. The libs come after me
Speaker 1: like like a plague of lib locusts, like a bunch
Speaker 1: of angry progressive piranhas. Look at this a literation I
Speaker 1: pull off? Yeah my popcorn ready, Yeah, that's roping Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: preducer Marx, You're like a look at him because when
Speaker 1: I go there, boom love, audience gonna boom me. I
Speaker 1: can read out the best tweets on me him. We
Speaker 1: could do it, oh after the Bill Marshall, we could
Speaker 1: definitely do a mean tweet session for sure. We'd have
Speaker 1: to get out the bleep button though. All Right, Kyle
Speaker 1: is first up here in roll Call. Hey Buck, you
Speaker 1: have an awesome show. Thank you, Kyle. You a fantastic taste.
Speaker 1: I think all the political speculation that Bernie has the
Speaker 1: best shot of getting beaten by Trump is not correct.
Speaker 1: I believe Bernie has the best shot out of all
Speaker 1: the Democrats to win the presidency. The reason I say
Speaker 1: that is if Bernie gets screwed out of this nomination,
Speaker 1: Bernie bros. Won't vote for the Democratic nominee. They may
Speaker 1: actually if you vote for Trump to send a message.
Speaker 1: There's a decent amount of evidence to support that theory.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the rest of the Democrat voters
Speaker 1: would vote for Bernie because it's someone opposing Trump. I
Speaker 1: don't like how the Republicans have been underestimating Bernie. That's
Speaker 1: what the Libs did to Trump, and we all know
Speaker 1: how that went. You and a few others are the
Speaker 1: only ones I hear not saying to write him off
Speaker 1: and to take him seriously. We won't lose if we
Speaker 1: get out and vote, but we are if we are
Speaker 1: overconfident in a victory, we will have a socialist in office.
Speaker 1: You're the man, buck Shields High. Thank you, Kyle. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I take Bernie. I take Bernie very seriously. I'm not
Speaker 1: write him off at all. I think that if there's
Speaker 1: any lesson from twenty sixteen we have to learn, it's
Speaker 1: the media doesn't know squat and American politics is a
Speaker 1: very different game than we had thought before. And you know,
Speaker 1: in this this new media environment, meaning social media, digital media,
Speaker 1: it's just ever the game has changed. The game has changed,
Speaker 1: and Bernie Sanders is an outsider at a time when
Speaker 1: it feels like outsiders are able to pull off things
Speaker 1: that completely fly in the face of the conventional wisdom.
Speaker 1: See Donald Trump, right, I mean this is this is
Speaker 1: pretty self evident. So yeah, I take them very seriously.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Bernie voters, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: what you're really getting at. I don't know if Bernie
Speaker 1: voters would really refuse to support the Democrat nominee or not.
Speaker 1: It's possible you could be right on that. I think
Speaker 1: that it really is going to depend on what happens here.
Speaker 1: If someone were able to really legitimately surge, and I
Speaker 1: don't even know how that would be possible at this point.
Speaker 1: But like, let's say Biden. Let's say Biden managed to
Speaker 1: run the table and the contest and there wasn't some
Speaker 1: real theory about you know, moutheasons from the DNC. You know,
Speaker 1: there's not super delegates or something like that. I think
Speaker 1: Bernie voters would would probably go and vote for Biden
Speaker 1: because they hate Trump so much. Yeah, I do, But
Speaker 1: who knows. You know, we're all just guessing because we're
Speaker 1: talking about assessing trends that involve millions and millions and
Speaker 1: millions of individual decisions, and it's very it's very tough
Speaker 1: for anybody to get that right ahead of time. Everybody
Speaker 1: in the political prediction game needs to maintain a healthy,
Speaker 1: healthy dose of humility. Peter writes, Ron Konkoma does have
Speaker 1: a beach. It's around the lake. It's okay, nothing special.
Speaker 1: Most people go to Fire Island or Robert Moses. It's
Speaker 1: one of the few things I miss about Long Island.
Speaker 1: Here in Kingston. There isn't much beach wise. Long Island
Speaker 1: is an overpopulated nightmare waiting to happen. Anywhen they're after
Speaker 1: Superstorm Sandy knows it's a ticking time bomb. Ultimately, I
Speaker 1: went out of New York probably Pennsylvania. By mid twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. Producer Mark what say you about this Long Island?
Speaker 1: Assess Long Island's awful really highest taxes in the entire country.
Speaker 1: And that's on Suffolk. Wow, between property axes and income
Speaker 1: tax all that, yeah high, it's overcrowded. The Long Alan
Speaker 1: Railroad is an abomination. It's off a place. What do
Speaker 1: you think I'm getting out? Yeah, I could never like
Speaker 1: raise a family there. Wow. Well I do know that
Speaker 1: getting a police so I know this because when I
Speaker 1: was in the MYPD and the cops would often talk
Speaker 1: about how like getting a job as a law enforcement
Speaker 1: all as a cop in Nassau County, I think just
Speaker 1: the average starting salary is like one hundred and twenty grand,
Speaker 1: and so becoming a police officer there, your your chance
Speaker 1: is like per application is like point oh one or something,
Speaker 1: and it's it's like impossible because because they're so highly paid,
Speaker 1: and the tax base has to be super high obviously
Speaker 1: to do that, no matter what they make, you redo
Speaker 1: the academy. I know somebody who was MYPD and was
Speaker 1: looking to maybe go to Nasar Suffolk. He wouldn't just
Speaker 1: join the force like in any other force in the country.
Speaker 1: You have to re goo to the academy. Even though
Speaker 1: MYPD is probably the best to cap and you've heard
Speaker 1: that too, that they're super they're very high, like for
Speaker 1: what that said, very high salary. I think they have
Speaker 1: the highest starting laws. Can not have a high salary
Speaker 1: with those of those taxes and the property taxes. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: class of livings ridiculous online. Actually I went to so
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go to a big party for charity.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this that a very very good friend
Speaker 1: of mine was throwing out in Suffolk County and the venue,
Speaker 1: which was like a party venue that you could rest
Speaker 1: sort of like for weddings or whatever. The venue got
Speaker 1: shut down the day before because the venue didn't think
Speaker 1: that they for whatever reason, they didn't think that they
Speaker 1: had to pay the local Suffolk you know, the there's
Speaker 1: like a liquor fee that you pay for the town
Speaker 1: that they didn't think they oh it's a private thing.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, and noose Suffolk cops
Speaker 1: showed up and they were like, no, charity party, we
Speaker 1: care you pay the tax my man, there's fee or
Speaker 1: a tax fee everything. Yeah, they didn't pay the like
Speaker 1: public liquor you know, it wasn't it wasn't a liquor
Speaker 1: license because they weren't selling it. But if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a large enough gathering. You have to have some
Speaker 1: almost like a keg fee or something like that, and
Speaker 1: you have to go to the pillow local PD and
Speaker 1: you have to get it. They didn't get it. Party canceled,
Speaker 1: canceled because of this that I was like, Wow, these
Speaker 1: suffic cops, these guys don't mess around nickel and dime.
Speaker 1: You first last year, I needed the inspection. You don't
Speaker 1: have to get an inspection on your car every year.
Speaker 1: I guess it expired the day before. Immediately got a ticket.
Speaker 1: I've been out to I've been out to East Hampton
Speaker 1: and Southampton a few times in the last i'd say
Speaker 1: decade or so. I'll never forget. I was out and
Speaker 1: I was driving like a rental car in Southampton and
Speaker 1: I did like a three point turn on a street
Speaker 1: that I'm telling you there were no cars, no people,
Speaker 1: know nothing, and and the cop who was on foot
Speaker 1: like waved me over and I sort of like drove up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, like there's nothing like I was. It
Speaker 1: was the middle of the day. There's only there. There
Speaker 1: was a lady cop and she's just like, look like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let this go. But you just broke a
Speaker 1: double line by doing that and like, I could I
Speaker 1: think she said it was like a two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars five And I looked at her. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like you you're like are you
Speaker 1: in what what universe? Could this be there? She's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: let it go this time. And I was like, you're
Speaker 1: you guys would honestly, but it's because I had. You know,
Speaker 1: is a rental rental plate I'm a weekend or I'm
Speaker 1: just there visiting friends or something, they don't care. They
Speaker 1: will rinse you. You could be a resident, they would
Speaker 1: do that to you. Oh yeah, no, of course a
Speaker 1: rental if you're if you're a year rounder, it's different. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know this because I actually dated a girl who
Speaker 1: lived on Martha's Vineyard and I was with her in
Speaker 1: the car when a cop pulled her over for actually speeding.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, it's like, how's your dead? Dan?
Speaker 1: You know, like like you're right, Like if you're a
Speaker 1: towny in these towns, you go right away. If you're
Speaker 1: a summer person, they oh, man, they turn you upside
Speaker 1: down and they they empty out your pockets. Do you
Speaker 1: know how much a red light ticket is in Nassa County.
Speaker 1: How much one hundred and fifty dollars. Let's see, this
Speaker 1: is what I mean. It's just crazy. Yeah, they just
Speaker 1: take you this, take you to the cleaners man, that's
Speaker 1: what they do. Anyway. All Strong Island there, you've never
Speaker 1: been out there, there aren't I mean, there are beautiful beaches,
Speaker 1: that's why people pay. A beautiful place, but you have
Speaker 1: to pay to bin. It's a little bit. It starts
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit sound a little like California.
Speaker 1: Too much traffic, too expensive, you know, by the coast.
Speaker 1: That's what's going on in California. To Greg Buck, I
Speaker 1: know I always write in well Greg, we love it,
Speaker 1: but I become a bigger and bigger fan every single
Speaker 1: day I listen to you. Never has common sense been
Speaker 1: such so widely spoken. On another note, I think the
Speaker 1: Republican Party should rename itself the Freedom Party. I think
Speaker 1: that would resonate it a lot better with voters. Just
Speaker 1: an idea of shield time. Well, Greg, thank you for
Speaker 1: the kind words about the show, and that's really an
Speaker 1: endorsement of what we do here that you feel like
Speaker 1: every day the show gets better and better. So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for that and we appreciate it. You're
Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex and
Speaker 1: Show podcast, Rick Right, Hi Bucking producer Mark Love. The
Speaker 1: show volunteering. Volunteering for military service offers solutions to many
Speaker 1: of what Bernie views as problems in our country today.
Speaker 1: Free clothes, free food, free place to live, regular promotions
Speaker 1: and pay increase simply for doing your job, weekends off,
Speaker 1: opportunities to travel on the job experience from day one.
Speaker 1: Twenty years of service will generate a military pension for
Speaker 1: a lifetime. He can't do this anywhere else, just saying,
Speaker 1: Shields High Brothers. Well, Rick, I'm assuming you are veteran.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you are based on your description here,
Speaker 1: and yeah, obviously that's you know, serving your country is
Speaker 1: certainly a honorable and fantastic option for a lot of
Speaker 1: people that want to do it. I think we all
Speaker 1: know Bernie Sanders was not about the He was not
Speaker 1: interested in signing up at any point. Jeffrey Buck, there
Speaker 1: are twenty three movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe for reels.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan that's been with you since the Real newsdays.
Speaker 1: Shields High, Well, thank you so much, Jeffrey twenty three
Speaker 1: movies in the Marvel cinemat. Yeah, I was trying not
Speaker 1: to tell you how many there actually were. That's a ton. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't know his ant Man as one of them,
Speaker 1: by the way I saw this, and the guy from
Speaker 1: Clueless is now a superhero. Yeah, an Man's one of
Speaker 1: the funniest and he's a good It's great. Yeah, both
Speaker 1: han Man and then ant Man in the Wasp. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know this is a thing. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta learn more about this. I also though I was
Speaker 1: not a Black Panther fan at all as a movie,
Speaker 1: because I've probably looked at him with politics classes all. No,
Speaker 1: I I nope, that's not fair. Like I will say
Speaker 1: The Motorcycle Diaries, which is about the rise of che
Speaker 1: Guvara Ernesto Gavara. People call him Chay, which means dude.
Speaker 1: Motorcycle Diaries a really compelling movie. It's also turns che Guvara,
Speaker 1: who's a monster, into like a Jesus figure basically, like
Speaker 1: he's like just wants to heal the sick and help
Speaker 1: the poor and everything else. Good movie, horrible politics. I
Speaker 1: just didn't think, I mean Black Panther. The society is
Speaker 1: more advanced than any other society in the world. They
Speaker 1: have like special technology doesn't exist anywhere else, but they
Speaker 1: choose the leader by having like a blood sport deathmatch.
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem to add up. It's supposed to be like
Speaker 1: old tribal ways. Yeah, but but I mean, if you
Speaker 1: got the most advanced technology in the world, like, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: a little I just thought it seemed a little bit
Speaker 1: strange to me. And also the thing with the rhinos
Speaker 1: at the end, where like there's the cgi rhinos running
Speaker 1: over people. I wasn't into it. I'm just saying. I
Speaker 1: know everyone's supposed to love the movie Black Panther. To me,
Speaker 1: there were some cool parts. I mean, I thought one
Speaker 1: was pretty good. But I don't know, I know, I'm
Speaker 1: what can I say, folks, I just don't understand you.
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't make sense to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Mark writes in this is just the name thing. I
Speaker 1: have to agree with Mark, of course on the Avengers
Speaker 1: Endgame is only one of a series I had. It
Speaker 1: is the only one of the series I had any
Speaker 1: emotional response to love. The show is always all right?
Speaker 1: Another another like vote for producer marks analysis on this
Speaker 1: one but comes from this, isn't you right? No writing
Speaker 1: in yourself? Yeah you got You gotta keep an eye
Speaker 1: on this guy. Like I said, I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: and check it out. Scott writes, Hey, Buck, Bernie's saying
Speaker 1: Castro isn't all that bad because he instituted a literacy
Speaker 1: program is like praising Hitler for always paying the gas bill.
Speaker 1: Gloves off shields high, Scott, you said it, man. I
Speaker 1: don't know why Bernie feels a need to do that,
Speaker 1: but he's you know, it's not helping himself. It's not
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Richard. My wife is a teacher,
Speaker 1: so she would drag me along the judge high school
Speaker 1: debate tournaments. That is what love is. Those high schoolers
Speaker 1: behave better than these candidates and could moderate a debate
Speaker 1: better than CBS did. Did you catch where Bloomberg slipped
Speaker 1: up and said he bought the forty reps who took
Speaker 1: the house. That is Bloomberg. He thinks he can just
Speaker 1: buy the election. And this whole wealth tax thing, it's
Speaker 1: only going to be two percent at first. The income
Speaker 1: tax is only one percent at first. Then Wilson Senate
Speaker 1: sky High, Shield Tie, good stuff from rachere a team.
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