WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Football Cornucopia

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola. And it is a Tuesday at eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and that means one thing and one thing only.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time for another edition of Mick SHOT's Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Jones along with Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC Mortgage Studios

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<v Speaker 1>at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Everson can't

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<v Speaker 1>be here this week, he will be back next week.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mickey, I will tell you right off the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I have spent a busy morning. Let me get it,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get it out of my briefcase here inside

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<v Speaker 1>my big green NFL Draft scouting notebook, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>getting into this stuff now. I sment this morning on linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>outside linebackers, inside linebackers, and I've got some opinions to share,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you do also, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your thoughts and all that stuff. But first off,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing on this fine Tuesday morning, the day

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<v Speaker 1>after the Baylor Bears went a national champion. How about

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<v Speaker 1>those Baylor Bears. That was pretty surgical last night, wasn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>the way they were able to play? And boy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after I saw Saturday's games and kind of in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my mind, I was going, no, Gonzaga could

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<v Speaker 1>be in trouble because I don't know how well they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna match up if Baylor plays as well as they can,

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<v Speaker 1>and they played better than I thought they could. That

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<v Speaker 1>was unbelievable offense defense. I guess I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>their special teams in basketball, but that was pretty darn

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<v Speaker 1>impressive the way their guards were able to play, and

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<v Speaker 1>then their big guys inside kind of dominated the board.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, surprising a little bit, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>they were pretty darn good. If they hadn't had that

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<v Speaker 1>their little pause there, they may have been the team

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<v Speaker 1>that went undefeated this entire season, that's right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the COVID issue that set them out for

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks in the middle of the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were unbeaten going into that and weren't obviously weren't

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<v Speaker 1>as sharp and lost a couple of games and then

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<v Speaker 1>but they got over it soon enough to make their

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<v Speaker 1>run and get back on track. You know the thing

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<v Speaker 1>with when watching Gonzaga throughout the tournament, I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching in most of their games up until

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<v Speaker 1>the Final four, and UCLA just played a fun nominal

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<v Speaker 1>game on Saturday night, But it was like I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the varsity against the jv when Gonzaga was playing.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, you know, they played Oklahoma in the second round,

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<v Speaker 1>and Oklahoma they were missing their second best player of

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<v Speaker 1>the point guard, but they probably played as well as

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<v Speaker 1>they could play in that game against Gonzaga and still

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<v Speaker 1>lost by sixteen points. But that's the way Gonzaga had

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<v Speaker 1>played all season. It was at twenty seven straight games

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<v Speaker 1>where they had won by double figures. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>you get to the Final four and that Saturday night game,

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<v Speaker 1>Ucla shot fifty eight percent and Gonzaga shot fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent in that game and Jalen sugs Switching it back

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<v Speaker 1>to football here, Mickey, Yes, when I find so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>not only about when I start digging into the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Green NFL draft scouting notebook, but then even in March madness,

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<v Speaker 1>when you start learning about the players. I hadn't followed

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball very closely throughout the season outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>one kid from from Dallas drew Timmy from Richardson Pearce.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know much about their team. Then I started

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<v Speaker 1>digging into Jalen Suggs. You know, Suggs was mister football

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<v Speaker 1>and mister basketball at Minni Haha Academy in Minneapolis, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to go to Clemson and he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be Trevor Lawrence's or he would follow Trevor Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback at Clemson if he had gone that route.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when he becomes draft eligible, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>have him inside my big green notebook here in a

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<v Speaker 1>year or so. And I'm already proposing right now that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys select Jalen Suggs in the seventh round as

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, even though he will be starring in the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA at that point. Yeah, he's a boy, just a

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<v Speaker 1>polished individual as a freshman. By the way, the way

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<v Speaker 1>he can play, the way he can move, and you

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<v Speaker 1>could imagine if the moves he had as when he's

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<v Speaker 1>driving with the ball in basketball, what he would do

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<v Speaker 1>if the football was in his hands. Um, yeah, pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. Uh, we'll see another shot like

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<v Speaker 1>that to win a game and overtime the way he

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<v Speaker 1>did in the semi final game against UCLA. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the I thought the best part about it is after

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<v Speaker 1>he let it go, he knew it was going in

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<v Speaker 1>because he started running sideways like, okay, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>even though it banked it right, even though it banked

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<v Speaker 1>did he was he was running. I know it hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>gone through the basket yet, and he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>running to go celebrate, h But he just knew that

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<v Speaker 1>he had the right arc on it and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was going in. Um. I mean, don't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>you remember? Don't you remember practicing basketball and and and

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<v Speaker 1>goofing around before practice started and taking half chord shots.

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<v Speaker 1>You knew when it's going in? You know, you you

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<v Speaker 1>could tell after I don't know if your hands, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I knew that if it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bake in. I'm not sure right I knew, But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but what set Baylor apart not only their three point shooting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you had offense there, and I'm getting it back

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<v Speaker 1>to football here, mickey. Okay, they've got they had firepower

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<v Speaker 1>on offense. But what the difference in that national championship

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<v Speaker 1>game was defense. Yes, And Gonzaga is known to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to shoot threes also, and Baylor was ten for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one on threes at one point in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>so shooting basically fifty percent. But they were closing out

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gonzaga three point shooters. And that's what That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Baylor did all season long, is they did it

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<v Speaker 1>with defense, which gets us back to the Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>doing it with some defense. You have to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play defense to win some championships too, Yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least halfway decent defense. It's unlike last year. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a total collapse and you basically we're needing to

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<v Speaker 1>score thirty to forty points a game to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to win, and that's no way to do business in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. So you're right, this whole thing this year

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<v Speaker 1>going forward. You figure, as as soon as the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line gets back together the way it was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be last year, this offense will be fine. The question

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<v Speaker 1>mark will be can Dan Quinn make a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>on what goes on defensively? All right, So we had

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to talk about the draft where the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys set after basically what has been the second tier

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<v Speaker 1>of free agency. Now the quarterback carousel in this league

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<v Speaker 1>which continues on Monday as Sam Darnold is dealt to

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers, and it's obvious that Zack Wilson is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the guy, looks like for the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>at number two, and that we're gonna have at least

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<v Speaker 1>three or three quarterbacks taken in the first three picks,

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<v Speaker 1>if not four in the first four, maybe even five

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<v Speaker 1>in the top seven or eight. We'll see. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind as we kick things off here on

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<v Speaker 1>mix shot? You know when you when you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>trade with Donald and what's lined up in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and you said that, you know you could have three

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks go off the board immediately, could be the first four.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, has that ever happened before? The

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<v Speaker 1>first four picks in the draft were ended up being quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 1>And I went back and looked real quickly, and the

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<v Speaker 1>best I could find. In nineteen ninety nine, the first

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<v Speaker 1>three picks were quarterbacks Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, and Achille

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<v Speaker 1>Smith uh And there was also five taken in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round with Culpepper and and uh McNown and then

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy one before. I guess we knew that

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks were so valuable. The first three picks in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft were Jim Plunkett, Archie Manning, and Dan Pastorini. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so it's been three in a row, but I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>found four in a row in the in the first

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<v Speaker 1>first four picks of an NFL draft, And that very

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<v Speaker 1>well could happen this year. Uh if were if we

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<v Speaker 1>assume that San Francisco is gonna take Mac Jones, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's you know, possibility that Atlanta goes with Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh and who knows that the fifth else right exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and and there's other teams that, uh

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<v Speaker 1>maybe trading picks, you might get five quarterbacks in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten for the Cowboys or the top nine before

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys ever picked. So the way this thing's break,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's with with uh, you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers, a couple offensive linemen. If all these quarterbacks go,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are going to have their choice of the

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive player in the draft. And I didn't mention

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end too. Uh, there's a chance that they'll

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to pick the best defensive player in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft, if they indeed decide to go defense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean with the with the with the receivers that

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<v Speaker 1>are up there as well. Um, you know there's about

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<v Speaker 1>three receivers that are that are kind of lumped together,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like in last year's draft, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>in the teams. Uh. And I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>because there's such an emphasis on offense in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's just there's some question marks about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the defensive players or they or they play because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the edge rusher h Miles Garrett or

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<v Speaker 1>Boss or Chase Young in this class that would normally

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<v Speaker 1>be a top five, you know, or even number one pick,

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<v Speaker 1>And so maybe that is what's pushing down the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>class a little bit. But there are some really good

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<v Speaker 1>defensive players in this draft, and the Cowboys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting pretty I mean, even if you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a debate on the quarterbacks. And how about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact you you'd mentioned Mac Jones to San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago or nine days ago when the trade

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<v Speaker 1>was made where San Francisco moved up and then people

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about Mac Jones, Well, well, nine days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones was considered like a top fifteen pick, and

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<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, he's a top three pick.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just funny how things change as we lead

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<v Speaker 1>up and get closer and closer to draft Day and

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<v Speaker 1>people find out more information about who teams are interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not unusual to have a quarterback climb like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh as far as the uh we in the media

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<v Speaker 1>or the fans are concerned, you know, the teams know

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<v Speaker 1>who they're interested in or are really high on early

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<v Speaker 1>on in the process. But once things start leaking out, um,

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<v Speaker 1>here Mac Jones is. He's he's the number three pick

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, and we don't even blink at it now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at him, you know, I can

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<v Speaker 1>understand it. They're looking for a quarterback that has played

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in college, a heady guy doesn't make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mistakes. It's very accurate. You know, everybody gets

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<v Speaker 1>all enamored with arm strength, right or size, and just

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<v Speaker 1>watch this kid play quarterback. He knows how to play quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right about the evaluation process, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>when Carolina traded for Darnold, everybody's like, what do they

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<v Speaker 1>want with him well, Matt Rule and in their offensive

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<v Speaker 1>court Nader Brady. They know a little bit about quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and so maybe they saw something in him that's like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>we could work with this, get him in the right environment,

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<v Speaker 1>get him around some other good players with a good

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, and maybe we can get something out of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that what did he go like number three

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft when the Jets took him? Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean people were two. Yeah, people were high on him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he gets to the Jets, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the Jets should be the litmus test test

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<v Speaker 1>for the quality of a quarterback since they seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with the quarterback position since Joe Namath. It seems like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe I heard this, uh right, Um, someone

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<v Speaker 1>said he's young. He's actually younger than Trevor Lawrence. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's true. I think he's I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was ready he was twenty four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's older than Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence's turns twenty two October six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's twenty four, I think, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a similar age. I mean, or he'll be twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>when the season gets going, and you know, and think

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<v Speaker 1>about talk about the school of hard knocks being the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets quarterback. You know, he's he's you would think if

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to make it eventually in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the schooling that he has gotten the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years with the Jets puts in a position

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<v Speaker 1>where you feel like you can do more with a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's already has had as many NFL snaps as

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold has had than a rookie coming in. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think Caroline, I can understand why Caroline is

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. And you know, they'll pick up his fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year option, so they'll have him for two years and

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll be able to make an adjustment. And the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing for Matt Rule at Carolina is that he

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<v Speaker 1>signed a seven year contract and so yeah, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to win as as soon as possible. But he's got

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<v Speaker 1>some job security there too. Yeah, absolutely, And and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know in this and he he comes relatively cheaply, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I understand it was three picks in a

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<v Speaker 1>second in and four next year, but only a sixth

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Yeah, sixth rounder. Yeah, and his and his

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<v Speaker 1>his base salary. He's still on his rookie his rookie contract.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're from a financial standpoint, all they got to

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<v Speaker 1>do is deal with the base salary. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a little over four million. That's that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they've got to decide if they want to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the fifth year option, which will be eighteen million.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could also you know, when a guy gets

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<v Speaker 1>traded like that and he understands basically his football mortality,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he restructure that if they like what they

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<v Speaker 1>see once he gets there, and restructure the next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why you know, and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this bill about what took the Cowboys so long to

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<v Speaker 1>sign Dak Prescott. Right, Well, these quarterback contracts, boy, they

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<v Speaker 1>will they will put your hands around the neck, right

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't get it right. And just look

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<v Speaker 1>at what Carolina did with Teddy Bridgewater. They signed him

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<v Speaker 1>to a three year, sixty three million dollar contract with

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen million dollars signing bonus in thirty three million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars guaranteed. Now, if they just cut them outright, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of them, it's a twenty million dollars of dead money.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to trade them if they don't want him

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<v Speaker 1>to count an enormous amount against the cap. If they

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<v Speaker 1>trade him, it's down to twenty million. But can they

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<v Speaker 1>keep the guy at what he's costing up seventeen million

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<v Speaker 1>this year as a backup? Be interesting to see how

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<v Speaker 1>they treat that. But I'm just saying, this is why

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback contracts are so significant in your salary cap

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<v Speaker 1>and how you dole out the money. Well, but to

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<v Speaker 1>your point on that's the big thing about Darnald as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to say the Lions or the Colts. Colts picking

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<v Speaker 1>up WinCE, the Lions picking up Golf, who are They're

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<v Speaker 1>already on their second contract and already making upwards of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million up to thirty million um. That's where the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of picking up Darnald with two years of two

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<v Speaker 1>years left on his deal. Uh, you know they can,

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<v Speaker 1>They don't. They don't have to get rid of Bridgewater.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they will, but from a salary cap standpoint, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're in the same boat as everybody else as far

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<v Speaker 1>as there the amount of money that they are paying

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position. Even if Darnald making so much less

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<v Speaker 1>than Bridgewater is the starter, but he's But to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Bridgewater is not going to stay there and

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<v Speaker 1>they and trading him is the way they can manage

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<v Speaker 1>its salary cap wise where it doesn't have as big

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<v Speaker 1>of an effect. Yeah, and so basically, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>what Carolina did, you get a free It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a free look right for one year. And even if

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<v Speaker 1>you decide, well, let's just roll the dice and see

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<v Speaker 1>how he does and not pick up the fifty year option,

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<v Speaker 1>if you indeed want to do that, well, you can

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<v Speaker 1>also negotiate with him. You get, you know, into the

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<v Speaker 1>season and he's playing well, and it's like, oh, okay,

0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.440
<v Speaker 1>let's sign him to a long term deal. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like for that little bit of money and draft picks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you get a free look at the guy

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<v Speaker 1>and see if coaching makes a difference indeed how he

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<v Speaker 1>plays and the players you have around him. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course they'll have to make that decision on the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year option right after the draft, by May third or

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<v Speaker 1>whenever that day. Yeah, Hey, of course the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>a decision to make on Layton Vanderish as far as

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<v Speaker 1>his fifth year option. What are your thoughts on that, Vicky? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and his isn't quite like a quarterback, right His fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year is nine it's just a little bit of I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's nine point three million. H I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that they would pick it up just looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback situation they have and everybody's like, wow, he's injury prone. Well, okay,

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the next thing you fixed it, you can't deal It's like, oh,

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.400
<v Speaker 1>did he have a weak collar bone? Is that why

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.240
<v Speaker 1>he broke it? You know that that's silly. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>once they got the next thing taken care of and

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.360
<v Speaker 1>he didn't seem to allow that to affect him once

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<v Speaker 1>he got back on the field and was playing, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you get you got to pick that up. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't pick that up and you don't fortify the

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker position this year in the draft, you're gonna you're

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have some significant problems the following year. And nine

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<v Speaker 1>million for a starting quarterback, I mean a linebacker is

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<v Speaker 1>not outrageous. You you should be able to handle that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've already factored that in at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>you drafted him or anybody in the first round. You're

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<v Speaker 1>factoring in as far as your budget goes going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're picking up the fifth year option on that

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the in the fifth year of his contract.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think unless there was an injury or poor

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<v Speaker 1>play that that told you that we were not picking

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<v Speaker 1>it up. From day one, when you draft the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're expecting it to be a picking up the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year option. Now, you do have some some people that

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're out on early, and twenty seventeen was one

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<v Speaker 1>in Taco Charlton. But you know, Layton has played at

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<v Speaker 1>a high level and the only thing that is setting

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<v Speaker 1>back has been the injury issue, which is a significant concern.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as you've got that resolved in your

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<v Speaker 1>own mind, and apparently they do after the surgery, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, I think it's a no brainer. You

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<v Speaker 1>you pick it up because, as you say, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a financial burden for one year next year,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Bill, before we go, just one last thing on Darnold.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately the Cowboys got to face him again, right Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of that about that. That's right. Well, what

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a second they played Carolina. Yeah, that's that's right, that's right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he kind of did it was that was

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<v Speaker 1>his first game back. It was his first game back

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<v Speaker 1>after Mono, right about was it Mono? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that's right, And what did he throw? A did he

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<v Speaker 1>throw one hundred and five yard touchdown pass? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what ninety something touchdown? Yeah? I see, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, ninety five, ninety four something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all he needed to do to win? Yeah game? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'm sure that would be on the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>mind when they have And he actually played the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the game pretty well too, by the way, All right,

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker position. How important is the linebacker position in this draft?

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<v Speaker 1>How high do you take a linebacker in this draft?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at some of the linebackers and who Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>was here on Friday working and I went out to

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Globe Life Field was opened yesterday? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you go there opening day for the Rangers. I was there. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there, and an announced paid crowd of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand, two hundred thirty eight was there too. The

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<v Speaker 1>new ballpark seats around forty thousand. I think it's forty thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and so with the cop tickets as well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was close to a sell out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of areas like AT and T Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>where people can mill around. Uh. There's a great area

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<v Speaker 1>in a left field where you can basically socialize out

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you look at the stands, there are

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<v Speaker 1>empty seats all around. But I think that it was legitimate. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they consider it a capacity crowd to sell out,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they didn't reach the paid attendance of forty thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred. But it was interesting to see the attitudes

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<v Speaker 1>of people getting out and about and um, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of a returned to some sort of normalcy

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<v Speaker 1>going on now. And the you know, they they built

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<v Speaker 1>up the area, the entertainment district there in Arlington where

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<v Speaker 1>people can go to restaurants and bars prior to and

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>after the game and during the game. Uh, those seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be full yesterday too. So and I'm sure we

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<v Speaker 1>are and I'm sure everybody wore a mask for nine innings, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see anyone without a mask on. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's I did see one guy. He was

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<v Speaker 1>working on the same hot dog the entire game. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard about that he nursed a hot dog to so

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<v Speaker 1>that when the usher came by and said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>put your mask, I'm eating my hot dog. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a nine inning hot dog. And it wasn't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the three footer or whatever, that big old dog they

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>sell out there is by the cheapest hot dog, which

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 1>is still you know, probably eight dollars, and uh, and

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 1>work on that, you know, And and I caught a

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>couple interviews, and it might have been on your station.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>They interviewed some guy about being out there and he goes, yeah,

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's great to be outdoors at the game, and you

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have to wear a mask anymore. And I'm going

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:21.719
<v Speaker 1>where where this guy's missing out on something? Mirror? But

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>he that's what that was the cut. Yeah, you don't

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>have to wear a mask anymore. It's like, Okay, you know,

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot Bicky. There's a lot of people in

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>this world, including I've got three daughters and three son

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>in laws. They don't watch the news very all. No,

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>people don't. That's why when I see stuff on the

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>news or these or these type of news shows on television,

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and I hear people preaching and I said, oh, it's

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>finding Dandy j. You're saying all this, But the people

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that need to hear this, I'm sorry they're not watching.

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Having said that, I will say this, my youngest daughter

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is she has a mask on more than anybody in

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the family. Um, and I mean she's uh and so,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I don't know that she knows

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>what channel I'm on. That shows how little she has

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>watched the news in her life. In fact, let me

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>this is this is a when she was in college.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>She called me one Friday night and said, Dad, what

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>is it again that you do for a living? She

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>was with friends out and I exaggerate. She didn't know

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>what I do for a living, but she didn't know

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I do for a living anyway. All right,

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 1>after I throw her under the bush, let's throw the Dallas.

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's throw this Cowboys defense under the bus from last year. Um,

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, we's been told and retold most points given

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>up in Cowboys history. Y'all want to ask you specifically though,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>about the front seven. We talk a lot about cornerback,

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and obviously there's a need there. There's a need at

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>safety as well, but let's talk front seven, and what

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think the biggest need is for the Cowboys

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>right now as they set three weeks away from the draft,

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>in the front seven on their defense. I still think

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's linebacker. I think with what they have up front

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that they could play tomorrow with Lawrence and Randy Gregor

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>defensive end. And you know they let me rephrase that.

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Let me rephrase that not only this year but in

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the coming years too. Okay, right when we're talking about

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the draft. We're not just talking needs this year, but

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>we're talking needs when you look at contracts and so

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>forth going forward, what is the biggest needs? Yeah, and

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at the biggest need meeting first round, right,

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because you can get, by the way, a starter in

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the second round Sean Lee. You can get a starter

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>in the third round if you look at what they

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>found with MALIEK. Collins. And I think MALIEK. Collins and

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Neville Gallimore are pretty comparable type players. But if you're

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>looking to get the best defensive player in the first round,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to me, there's a couple of linebackers there that are

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>going to go in the first round. I think Micah

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Parsons is good enough to go at number ten, but

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>there's other linebackers. The Cowboys were at the Ohio State workout,

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they saw a couple really good linebackers

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that could go in the first round. Maybe not as

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>high as ten, but again, there's always trade down to

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>get to somebody you want to get. Ce Travis Frederick.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I just think that linebacker cord needs to be, you know, restructured.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>We mentioned Layton Vanderish, and you can have him for

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>another year or two Jalen Smith, if you get him

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in the right spot. But to me, this and you know,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it in the break. From what I

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>saw of Michael Parsons. You know, boy Lawrence Taylor comes

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to mind. And I know the comparisons and people that

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>compare the draft, it's more Luke Keikley and guys like that,

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the guys in in Seattle, but the guys do and

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that probably didn't see Lawrence Taylor play. But that's what

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>this guy reminds me of because I also see some

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>pass rush capability out of him from the linebacker spot.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't need to be on the line of scrimmage.

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>He's got instincts that you can't teach. So to me,

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's worth their consideration. While everybody's just assuming

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take a corner, well take a look at

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy and see if he can come in and

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>be one of your I mean, he instantly would be

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>one of your top three linebackers. And I got no

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>problems taking a linebacker that high, you know. And the

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>thing on Michael Parsons when he was in high school,

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>he was a hand in the dirt. My understanding is

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>he was a hand in the dirt rush defensive end.

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to Ross Tucker, former cowboy Ross Tucker,

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>who does a really good job with his podcast and

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>so forth, and he is. Michael Parsons went to high

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>school not far from where Ross Tucker apparently lives, so

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>he saw him play in high school. And so he

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>has made the adjustment to be a stand up linebacker

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>at Penn State. And of course he did not play

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>he opted out this past season, but it was played

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>at an All American level, and so there are some

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>things as a linebacker in coverage where he obviously has

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the athletic ability to do it. He just hasn't as

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>far as being able to read things and so forth.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't played the position as long as some others

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't have the reps as some others have. But

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>when I mean, when you're talking about a guy who

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>runs a four three nine, which is what he timed

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>with a cone drill under seven, and just he looks

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>like when he sniffs out a play, the play is

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>sniffed out mickey right when when you look at his

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>highlight tape, you know, but I do think that you

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>need to and I haven't been able to do this

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>yet with him. I think you have to look at

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>full games to see exactly, you know, light not highlights, right, yeah, right, exactly.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can you can see things on a

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>highlight tape, how is closing speed, and it's impressive stuff.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>But there is any number of these linebackers or any

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>position where you can put a resume tape together and

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>look really, really good. And so so I'm still in

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the process of st dying Parsons as far as is

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, snap in, snap out what he has done.

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>For instance, there's another guy out of Notre Dame, Jeremiah

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>wos Karamara. Yeah, we don't want that. We don't want that.

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, And I do think it's funny

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you say that. I do you know I did that.

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>At first, I was like, Okay, I'm looking at my list.

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at Parsons. I got Zavin Collins here, I

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>got Nick Bolton out of Missouri. And then I get

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to the fourth guy on my list, Jeremiah Oosu what

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I left him off. I said, ah,

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna mess with him. Hopefully they hopefully the

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys don't draft him. I don't want to have to

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 1>learn that name, and so I just kind of put

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>him out of my mind. Well, Mickey, I started looking

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:52.479
<v Speaker 1>at him this morning. Jeremiah oh Woosu Koramoa from Notre

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Dame six one, two twenty one pounds. Apparently he didn't

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>run the forty yet his pro day, but he had

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a six eighty cone drill and thirty seven vertical. But

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing on him. Go look at him, and

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm making an animized guy as a second rate pro

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>football focus as him as a second rted to play

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>as a Buckas Award winner. The thing, he's a different

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>tight player than Michael Parsons though where I talk about

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons was an edge rusher handing the dirt high

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>school player and then became a linebacker at the college level.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Ousu Coamoa came from the other way. He's a safety

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>who has become a linebacker, which is when you look

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>at what the NFL has has become over the course

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of the last ten years or so, those hybrid safeties

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>who become linebackers, and you know, seventy five percent of

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the time you're in a nickel package his sub packages.

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>This guy there's a lot of times where I'm looking

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>at his tape, I'm going, where is number six on

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the field. Well, he's lined up, he's covering the slot.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>He's way out on the on the perimeter, and he

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>comes up and makes place. I mean, he's got some

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>brutal hits that he has laid on guys Um. And

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>but I am really impressed with Ousa Cooramoa. And uh.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's but again, it's a he's got some of

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the same elements qualities that that Parsons has, but he's

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>got some other stuff too where you can use him,

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, or as Parsons, you can use him maybe

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>as an edge rusher at times whatever. Ousa Cormoa has

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that ability too, but he can also cover and uh.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And so I suggest you take a closer look at

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Ousa Cooramoa and get past the name and dive in

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>on him. And and he's a he's a very intelligent

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>guy too. I was listening to his interview, but a

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>very versatile player has a lot of intelligence instincts. I

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>mean he is a I mean people people throw around

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>them the word great a lot. He's got a lot

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of potential to be a really good player in this league. Yeah.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 1>His his highlights. They're playing right now. Pretty impressive. UM

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and you know and he so what is he?

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Is he a junior out or has he been there

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>four years? Do you have that he's been there four years?

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>He red shirted? He you know, it's interesting on that too.

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>He red shirted his uh fresh true freshman year and

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>at Notre Dame. Uh. I believe he got hurt his

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>second year. Okay, and only he only played in two games.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>But he is the last two years, he has started

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty five games with twenty four and a half tackles

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>for loss, UH seven sacks, UM, five forced fumbles, and

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>UH seven pass breakups. UH. And I mean he is UH.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>There are some really good things that I've I've seen

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>from him in coverage where he looks like he's got

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>no problem at all, even covering a guy in a

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>slot or a running back coming out of the backfield. UH.

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>And again, I mean there are some there are some

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>uh formations where he is way out on the perimeter

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in coverage where I mean I'm looking for him in

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker spot and he's like covering a wide slot

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>on the on the wide side of the field. See

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and when you said it, I'm saying, well, he's a

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 1>little under size, but I guarantee you in a year

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>or so after he gets into the NFL, he'll be

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>playing at two thirty two thirty something, which is fine,

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and that's the beauty of it. A week side line,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that's right, and in the sub packages. I mean, I

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>mean that's that's what they're doing with Keyan O'Neil. I

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>mean Keyan O'Neill when they when they say they're working

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>him with the linebackers to start off with. I mean,

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>what's going to be very interesting is how the decisions

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>they make on vander Esh and Jalen Smith and the

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>nickel and who comes off the field or who finds

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a different role. If they're going to have Kean O'Neil

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>as one of those nickel linebackers, which I assume that

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at, it won't just be as a dime linebacker.

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be as a nickel where he's he's

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>alongside vander Esh. And then what do you do with

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith? Do you sometimes use him as a edge

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>rusher or at times as he standing by Dan Quinn

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline yeah, and to me, the best spot

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>for him, meaning Jalen Smith is a strong side linebacker

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to have three on the field, and

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>so there's room for another linebacker. I like Layton vander

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>esh in the middle. I think he has good command

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of the game, he sees things. And so now what

0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>are you going to do on the week side, because

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think I think that is a that

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>is not Jalen Smith's position. I just think if he's

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>not in the middle, then he's got to be on

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the strong side. Uh. Okay, And you know the way

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I the way I interpreted what he said about Neil uh,

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he said he would start off at linebacker. I think

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>he said it in the vein that he knows the

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>safety position. You know, he doesn't need to train there.

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>We need to see what he can do at the

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker spot, right and U and tell yeah, it remains

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to be seen how he is uh employed Uh once

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the season gets going. I mean it may just be

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>right during the offseason, uh and learning the linebacker spot,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>uh and see what he can do there. Okay. So

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>along those lines, then all right, if let's say they

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>just they decide, like you that Jalen Smith's best position

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.720
<v Speaker 1>is as a SAM linebacker. What about in the nickel?

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Then for Jalen Smith, what are they do with him? Yeah,

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is if they if they draft a

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Parsons or on Nousu Koramoa or someone who can be

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the will and you got Layton as a as a

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>MIC linebacker, where is Jalen Smith on the field or

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>is he on the field in the nickel? He's next

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to Dan Quinn and unless he can show you know,

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned his ability to maybe rush from a defensive

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 1>end spot, but if you go back and look at

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 1>when he is uh kind of rushed the quarterback, you know,

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>when he's standing on the line of scrimmage, he didn't

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 1>get there. He did a better job of blitzing from

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker spot than he did I think from a

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>stand up defensive lineman spot or the other thing I

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>thought where he was effective is when they would they

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>would mess around with the defensive alignment on definite passing

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>downs and you had an extra linebacker on and you

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't know who was coming and who wasn't, and he

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>would he would blitz. I thought he did a better

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 1>job with a running start than he did playing off

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a three hundred and thirty pound offensive tackle. Head up God,

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's where he's Jeeves your walk around uh Blitzer.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And that way, he takes this spot of one of

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>those four down linemen where you got your two your

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>two linebacker I'm talking in the nickel, where you got

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>your two linebackers, and then he takes one of the

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.720
<v Speaker 1>spots of a d tackle where he's a walk around

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>guy and kind of like the way Clowney's been used

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>in his career. Yeah, exactly, and work because because you can't.

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>You cannot, even though he may have the traits to

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>be an edge rusher, unless you train him as an

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>edge rusher meeting snaps in practice where he's working against

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>an offensive tackle as an edge rusher, you can't expect

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>him to be successful doing it. And so you have

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to make the decision from day one of the dan

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Quinn era as the defensive coordinator that Jalen, we think

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be most effectively used in this role,

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and so we are going to work you there are

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>times you're going to be working against an offensive tackle

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and pass rush drills. Yeah, absolutely, and you know, and

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about guys in the first round, but second,

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>third round. Dig into that green book and give me

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<v Speaker 1>some names that it might be available in the second

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>or third if you don't do it in the first.

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:37.919
<v Speaker 1>But you still need to address that linebacker position, all right,

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>And I've got a couple of other names I want

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<v Speaker 1>for Mickey Spagnola. Very good if it's a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, yes, yeah, all right. A couple of other

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>linebackers that I want to ask you about. I've got

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>one that I really like who I'm gonna save. But

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<v Speaker 1>first I want to ask you about Nick Bolton, a

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri Tiger out of Frisco, Texas lone star high school,

0:48:55.800 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>right there in the Cowboys backyard. A linebacker, Nick Bolton.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.439
<v Speaker 1>What can you tell me you, Missouri Tiger. I can

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you that he probably will be a late first

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:11.439
<v Speaker 1>round pick. But he's one of those guys that sort

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of remind me, and this used to be a term

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>for guys that are really scrappy, tough linebackers back in

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:25.839
<v Speaker 1>the day. He's like a junkyard dog. The guy reads

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:31.720
<v Speaker 1>plays awfully well. He's not the biggest guy. He's pretty quick,

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's pretty darned strong, and when he hits you,

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you'll know you've been hip. So I think that's a

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>guy that if somebody gets him in the twenties, it's

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a steal. He was the Missouri defense this year,

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of times when he was out, if

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>he had an injury or he got had to sit

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>for a hit or something, they were lost without him

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>on the field field, and he is a team leader.

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Whoever ends up with him, it's gonna fall in love

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>with Nick Bolton. Yeah. Well, he's another one that I

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was watching this morning. I said, WHOA, I gotta ask

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Mickey about Nick Bolton. I like that kid, I mean,

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and he ran a four or five nine at his

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Pro day twenty four bench reps, and that that strength

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and assertiveness shows on tape and his high football IQ

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 1>shows up too. Uh. You know where you can just

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>see on tape where his read and react uh is

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>up there amongst the best in this class and against

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>high quality competition. I mean, this is a two time

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>first team All SEC linebacker. When you're the best linebacker

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC, that says a lot about you right there.

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh and uh. He is a he seems like a

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>workmanlike type player, not flashy, and he gets from point

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.919
<v Speaker 1>A to point B in a hurry because he knows

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. He's read he in fact, I was

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>reading some stories on him even as he was selected.

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 1>This shows what kind of work ethic, what kind of

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>study habits he has where he's gonna. You know, Sean

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Lee is the ultimate as far as a guy who

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>studies tape. But I think especially for a linebacker, you

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>have to live in that room where on your iPad

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, studying your opponent. And here's an example of it.

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>As he was choosing his college. You know, he'd get

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a letter from a school or a call from a school,

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and he immediately is googling exactly what that school had

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on their depth chart at linebacker and you know, and

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 1>finding out about their coaches and everything. I mean, he's

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>got those study habit. It's that you want in a linebacker.

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you can look at and I've run

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>across even at just at the linebacker position, and I'm

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>just scratching the surface of some of these guys talent wise,

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you can see that they've got the ability that they

0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>can they can play. But what's going to set them

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>apart at the NFL and what's gonna make him successful

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 1>at the NFL is right up here. And as far

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 1>as being able to to study and be able to

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 1>like quarterback on offense, the ability to process quickly as

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker on defense is huge, Mickey. And I'll tell

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you what. It will take him one year, no more

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>than two to end up being a team captain. I'll

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you that. All right, love it, love Nick Bolton

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 1>right and right in the backyard of the Cowboys Frisco

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>lone Star High School. And he's a young guy too.

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's three years and out his true freshman year,

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>played in thirteen games at Missouri, then was a starter

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:09.240
<v Speaker 1>his sophomore in junior years. All right, and now here's

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the guy that I have fallen in love with. Zaven Collins,

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>number twenty three for the Tulsa Golden Hurricane, six five,

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty nine pounds. He ran anywhere between

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you know these these pro day times, Yeah or Jay

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>fluctuate anywhere between a four or five four or five

0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>seven and a four to six seven. He is a playmaker.

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:41.439
<v Speaker 1>On What intrigues me the most about him though, I mean,

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the Missouri defense not having anything when

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Nick Bolton wasn't on the field. How about the Tulsa

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.439
<v Speaker 1>defense when Zaven Collins wasn't on the field. He won

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>outside of the Buttkas Award, which was won by a

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Wusu Coromoa, he won the Nagurski Trophy, He won the

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Betneric Award. He won the Lombardi Award, which says a

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>lot about his production. Eight games, four sacks, four interceptions,

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 1>eleven and a half tackles for a loss. He had

0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Tulsa plan in the Tulsa played in the conference championship

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>game and lost, I believe in overtime on the last

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 1>second field goal. This guy what intrigues me the most

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 1>about him though, is when you talk about a guy

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 1>like a Jalen Smith, you know we're wishing that if

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Jalen could just be able to rush the passer and

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>use that athletic ability. Zavan has done it at Tulsa,

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and amongst those four sacks, it wasn't There were some

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>instinctual sacks timing a blitz from a linebacker spot, but

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.200
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple where he's been in his shoulder

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 1>coming around the edge as an edge rusher. And I

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 1>mean he is six foot four and seven eights, so

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>six five, two hundred and fifty nine pounds, And I

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>mean you look at his testing numbers and compare it

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to Marcus Ware very similar. And so I would I

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 1>would consider if Zaven Collins can prove and if the

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys scouts look at him and say we can make

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 1>an edge rusher out of him, I got no problem

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>taking him as high as you want to take him.

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Because this guy from a little school and from a

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>little town in Harmony, Oklahoma, graduating class of forty seven, Mickey,

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 1>he was valedictorian of his class, wants to be a

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 1>doctor someday. So he's got the smarts too well, you know,

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>class of forty seven, but he was valedictorian. Until you

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>told me about wanting to be a doctor, I thought

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you were describing Rolando McClean for me. You know what

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>yell size wise and everything, McClean go to fifty. I

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>mean this guy was too sixty. Yeah, he was probably

0:55:54.200 --> 0:56:00.040
<v Speaker 1>round two. He was too sixty after it was he

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was a few pancakes away from being two six sixty. Yeah,

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 1>McClain was probably two five, two fifty, but he was

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>tall and rangy, uh and and just athletic the way

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you're explained. So I think we've come to a conclusion

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that somewhere in those first couple of rounds, if not

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the first, that linebacker needs to be addressed. Um, you know,

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and it all depends on what you're saying. Okay, so

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 1>this guy versus another defensive tackle or a defensive end, um,

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, or an offensive tackle. So it all depends

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>on what's there. But you know, you kind of name

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 1>the position, and the Cowboys need one, uh you know,

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>short of a high pick on a quarterback. Um, maybe

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>not a running back, but other than that, yeah, why not.

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So I think the you know, the pictures wide open

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>for him in this draft. And I think the other

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:04.240
<v Speaker 1>thing about it is, you know, Beck, when Parcels coached,

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>even when you coach the Cowboys, the NFL was a

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>defensively it was a I'm running a three four. I've

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>got my prototype, guys, and you're not coming off a

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 1>three four and three four as your base and in

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a nickel, I've got my four man front, two linebackers whatever.

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Throw all that stuff out Now in the NFL, everything

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>is hybrid, and the more versatile players that you can have,

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the better you can. You can find ways to employ

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 1>these highly athletic players that we've mentioned here now the

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>ones we've mentioned today, Michael Parsons, Jeremiah Usu, Kormoa, Zaven Collins.

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Nick Bolton is the one that I think he is.

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>He's probably you plug him in he's a linebacker and

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>not take nothing away from him. I don't see as

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>much versatility from Nick Bolton as what I can see

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the how you can use Parsons of Woosa, Cormoa, and Collins,

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 1>which means those other three they intrigue me even as

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 1>first round draft picks. I think from the Cowboys sake,

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you talked about Bolton being a late first round and

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I think as an inside linebacker, unless you're Luke Keekley,

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:25.959
<v Speaker 1>you're probably late mid to late first round or later.

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You can find really good inside linebackers in the third round.

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 1>But with guys that have position flexibility like these other linebackers,

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that even with your existing linebacking corps that

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you have, you can find ways where they can make

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>a huge impact even in their rookie year, if you've

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 1>got a creative defensive coordinator. Yeah, I think you're You're

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. And the one thing I was going to

0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>ask you, Bill, and I don't know if you've gotten

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to the offensive lineman, but there's a lot of people

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at the problems that Cowboys had on offensive line

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>last year without the knowledge of who they had missing

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and who it will be back. A lot of people saying, well,

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you got to take an offensive tackle, these guys are

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.920
<v Speaker 1>too good. Well, my opinion on that, I want to

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>see what you have to say is how many first

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>round picks do you need on your offensive line? At

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 1>some point you have a glutton of of you know,

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>precious resources in the same spot. To me, the Cowboys

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>would not have restructured the contracts of those offensive linemen

0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 1>had they worried about Tyrant Smith and Lell Collins being

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:50.520
<v Speaker 1>recovered from their surgeries and ready to play football still

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. If they had worries about their physical condition,

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they would not have extended their contracts. So to me,

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>taking a offense tackle at number ten, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're it's it's just too high. But somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>top four rounds, I think you've got to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>a young guy and start grooming them, uh for the future. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I agree with you. I think you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the Cowboys have the medical knowledge. Uh. They

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the information that we don't have. But but

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<v Speaker 1>if you just follow the money, you follow what they

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<v Speaker 1>are have done, like what you're saying with Collins, with

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<v Speaker 1>Collins and Tyren Smith, Uh, it tips you off how

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<v Speaker 1>they the medical reports that they have on those players. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you've said, they do have a fallback where

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin can play right tackle if Lyle Collins doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come back or has a setback. Uh. You know. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is even with the tackles that they had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the undrafted guys they had last year, at

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<v Speaker 1>least they've got, you know, a season of NFL snaps

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<v Speaker 1>under their belt, you know, Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight

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<v Speaker 1>of where they could fill in maybe for a game

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<v Speaker 1>or two if if something happens with Tyring for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games. And so Yeah, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of this offensive line classes with those guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are projected higher, those offensive tackles, and with the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks going early, those guys are going to get pushed down,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you might even I think you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a quality offensive tackle who can also play guard, and

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to plug in at left guard

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<v Speaker 1>to start in his career, and he can be your

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<v Speaker 1>swing tackle in case there's an injury at tackle or

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<v Speaker 1>you have Zach Martin go out and play tackle. So

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<v Speaker 1>because the guy's a rookie and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>over train him at too many different positions to over

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<v Speaker 1>taxes his brain, but I think that they're to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are offensive linemen that can uh start

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<v Speaker 1>immediately in the second or third round at an inside

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<v Speaker 1>at a guard position. And think about what the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>did previously with some of their offensive tackles. They started

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<v Speaker 1>at guard, right the guys in the second third round did,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah Collins did. If you go back to um guys

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<v Speaker 1>like flows Al Adams, I think started, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>started inside and then moved out. So did Solomon Page,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going way back. But you know, now, Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Allen did it the other way. He was inside and

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<v Speaker 1>they moved him outside and necessity and then moved him

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<v Speaker 1>back in. But yeah, I think I just think doing

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<v Speaker 1>that in the first round as an embarrassment of riches.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh to to have another first round pick as an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle when you need help defensively, Uh, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get And it's not like these guys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the last first round offensive tackles in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL. Right, there's always next year. Uh. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that you know what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, Mickey, what's that? You know what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you do that when you ves so many first rounders

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<v Speaker 1>in offensive lineman that eventually you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>season in which your defense gives up the most points

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<v Speaker 1>of franchising. No, you're yeah, and you don't have those

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the field. So when you mentioned le Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the ability that at times to see him

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<v Speaker 1>working out and he's moving awfully, awfully well and h

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<v Speaker 1>and another guy moving awfully well is is Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 1>He can do you a for for cone drill right

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<v Speaker 1>now and moving awfully well too. So they I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they have any reservations about him being ready. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for some stuff in the offseason, if there

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<v Speaker 1>is some stuff in the off season, but for sure

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<v Speaker 1>for the start of training him. Okay, Mickey, do we

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<v Speaker 1>wrap this up? What position group would you like for

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<v Speaker 1>me to study for next week's edition. We'll just be

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks away from the draft. Where do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to explore next week? Well, you've done a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Do your own research too. How about how about um

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<v Speaker 1>inside like defensive guys, defensive tackles, not not first round guys,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe second, third, fourth, somewhere in there. Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the guys they signed in free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are all on one year deals. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like putty right now, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>cheap one year deal. Yes, right, So there's nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>says they're making so much money. They gotta they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be on the field or they you know, they get

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<v Speaker 1>the first chance. You know that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>some competition, So give me some competition at the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle spot along with Tristan Hill, who is moving awfully

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<v Speaker 1>well too, by the way, coming back for him his

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<v Speaker 1>torn acl All right, Uh, we got Hiah, We're already

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<v Speaker 1>over Triston Hill. Can you can you see can you

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<v Speaker 1>see Dan Quinn playing Tristan Hill at the one technique?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he I don't know that he has the

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<v Speaker 1>style in gallabor on the field. At the same time, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's got the size to depending

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<v Speaker 1>on a guess on how you're playing that one technique, right,

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<v Speaker 1>are you playing a true one technique nose tackle or

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<v Speaker 1>do you want a guy uh sort of the way

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<v Speaker 1>Marinelli liked and you know, even though you had a

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<v Speaker 1>nose tackle or a one technique, this guy was getting

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<v Speaker 1>up the field. He wanted guys getting up the field

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<v Speaker 1>and being disruptive. I think Hill can do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how well he would hold up, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>play after play against the run in that spot if

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting double team. But what we're looking for, we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for the Dallas d defence up front of the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're rotating guys in there and and so what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find for you next week is Dan Quinn's

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<v Speaker 1>fifth round three technique Grady Jarrett that he found in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen. That's what I'm going to be looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you some possibilities for later in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft defensive tackle. Next week, we might, Mickey, we might

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<v Speaker 1>have to do a draft show yew that's right, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did one today? Yes, absolutely talk at you next week. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us on mix shots. This has been

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