WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: All Monsters Attack

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be covering a film based on

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<v Speaker 1>a listener recommendation. So to all of you out there

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<v Speaker 1>who would like to write in with suggestions for us

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<v Speaker 1>this this may give you some hope. I wonder Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>should we kick this episode off by reading the message

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<v Speaker 1>that that suggested this movie? Sure? Yeah, go for it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. This is from Jordan. Jordan wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>to say hello, Stuff to Blow Your Mind team. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't always watch every Weird House Cinema movie before listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the episodes, but my partner and I certainly had

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<v Speaker 1>a blast watching Robot Monster. Our streaming service then recommended

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<v Speaker 1>us an equally short and hilarious movie with its own

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<v Speaker 1>unrelated dinosaur fights, the nineteen nine film All Monsters Attack.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever had the chance to see it, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you a short pitch. Uh. This Japanese bank heist

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<v Speaker 1>meets home alone sci fi action mystery movie is filled

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<v Speaker 1>with giant monster fights that show kids how to overcome

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<v Speaker 1>their school bullies. Certainly qualifies as a weird house film,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least. I don't think it's been covered yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and if not, I know my partner and I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear your take on it. Love the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's well, Jordan's I hope you were excited for today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We are indeed covering All Monsters Attack. Yeah, And listeners

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<v Speaker 1>keep the recommendations coming, because sometimes listeners let us know

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<v Speaker 1>about a film that's not on our radar, such as

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Other times, like last week's episode, let Sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>Corpses lie. That was a case where a listener requested

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<v Speaker 1>it and that kind of bumped it back up on

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<v Speaker 1>our list. It was on the list, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>at the top. But yeah, so so so let us

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<v Speaker 1>know anytime something catches your eye, if there's anything near

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<v Speaker 1>and dear to your heart that you think fits the

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<v Speaker 1>weird house cinema template. So I think All Monsters Attack

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<v Speaker 1>is a very interesting film, especially for its place in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the Godzilla franchise and for its varied

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<v Speaker 1>reception history. And I think it's also a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting in the very different notes it hits. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a movie that is both quite funny for schlock reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>as as alluded to in the email, but also I

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<v Speaker 1>think strangely sweet and even a little bit moving. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it has it has a good heart. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>It is a monster film about children, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a it's It's pretty common to see these various

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<v Speaker 1>Kaiju films where there is a child involved, and we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that's like Gamera is a friend to all

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<v Speaker 1>children and so forth. But this movie especially, is a

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<v Speaker 1>film where the child is not just a character like

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<v Speaker 1>the the the the childhood view of the world. It

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the centerpiece of the whole picture. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>like that. The film doesn't make sense unless you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that it is from the viewpoint of a child and

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<v Speaker 1>not just from the view viewpoint of a child is

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<v Speaker 1>in it has a child protagonist, but literally the monster

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<v Speaker 1>drama in it is a dream in the mind of

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<v Speaker 1>a child. Yeah. Yeah, this is a film in which

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<v Speaker 1>none of the monsters are real. Um Like, none of

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<v Speaker 1>the monsters that we that we see, none of these

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<v Speaker 1>fights are actually taking place. They're all in the child's head.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all in his dreams. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like those battles. It's not that they don't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's ultimately well presented. We talked in our Robot

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<v Speaker 1>Monster episode about films that have the it's it was

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<v Speaker 1>all a dream trope in them, And this is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a film where a lot of the action is taking

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<v Speaker 1>place within the dream. But also there is this it's

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<v Speaker 1>not presented in kind of a gut punchy, twisty way.

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<v Speaker 1>We know from the get go that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>dreamscape we're entering into, and yet at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>there's also, uh, there's also the real world plot that

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<v Speaker 1>is a that is taking place as well, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are steaks in it as well. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>all the steaks are in the dream world and nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the real world. Right. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>movie about a child who has dreams about monsters, and

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<v Speaker 1>those dreams about monsters teach him how to solve problems

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<v Speaker 1>in real life. Now, whether these are good lessons or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, that's there may be some generational divide

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<v Speaker 1>on that and there and this is all open for discussion. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought it might be useful here to do

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<v Speaker 1>a brief digression on the history of the Godzilla franchise

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<v Speaker 1>and the place all monsters attack has within it. Uh so.

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<v Speaker 1>The first Godzilla movie was released in nineteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>It was directed by Ishiro Honda, the same director as

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<v Speaker 1>today's movie, and it was about a giant, prehistoric reptilian

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<v Speaker 1>monster with radiation breath who appears from under the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>as a consequence of nuclear weapons testing in the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 1>Godzilla attacks Japan and is eventually defeated by the ingenuity

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<v Speaker 1>of human scientists. Now, I think it's really important to

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<v Speaker 1>note that if you have only seen later Godzilla movies,

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<v Speaker 1>you may be shocked if you go back and watch

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<v Speaker 1>the original, shocked to discover it's much darker tone, the

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<v Speaker 1>heavy themes treated in a very solemn manner, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there is no Kaiju meet Slam. The monsters

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<v Speaker 1>do not suplex each other. There In fact, there's only

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<v Speaker 1>one monster. Godzilla is a pure antagonist in the first movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't wrestle other monsters, and it is not light

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<v Speaker 1>camp entertainment. The original Godzilla is a bleak, doomy movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of grimy, it's useful black and light is

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<v Speaker 1>very stark. H It is a It is a serious

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<v Speaker 1>film about dread and horror in the modern world. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in the film that would follow, which was called Godzilla

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<v Speaker 1>Raids Again in nineteen fifty five, Godzilla once again emerges

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<v Speaker 1>to threaten humankind, but this time there's another element. Godzilla

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<v Speaker 1>is fighting another monster, so fighting this ancient fire breathing dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, he's sort of based on the design of

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<v Speaker 1>an Ankleosaurus um and this would set off a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pattern of monster on monster violence that would continue

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<v Speaker 1>into the following films, including movies like King Kong versus Godzilla,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the nineteen sixty two mothro versus Godzilla and sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>various battles with monsters from outer space and with three heads,

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<v Speaker 1>other things coming up from the deep and rob I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if you would disagree with anything here or have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to add to this, but I would argue a

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<v Speaker 1>few general trends in the Godzilla movies as they go on.

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<v Speaker 1>One is the trend of the moral valence of Godzilla,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think goes initially from hard heel to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of anti hero to full face. What would you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that? Oh, yeah, yeah, he's definitely a baby face.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the most of the films, people are really

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with. Yeah, it's often like Godzilla has to show

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<v Speaker 1>up to fight a bad monster in order to protect

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<v Speaker 1>humanity from that monster, and he's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous ally, but ultimately it's he who is defending human

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<v Speaker 1>civilization from from this really wicked creature. Yeah. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that trajectory tends to hold true occasionally with

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see some some new Godzilla pictures that come about

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<v Speaker 1>in which they kind of go back to basics and

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<v Speaker 1>go for like the solo monster threat sort of plot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess one of the main examples of that

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<v Speaker 1>is um Shin Godzilla from Yeah. Well, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times when they do a reboot, it's like that shin

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<v Speaker 1>Godzilla is like that Godzilla, that horrible American Godzilla from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties is like that yeah, or wait is it

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm trying to remember. I think it is. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe so, though I think the more recent American

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<v Speaker 1>Godzilla remake that had some extra monsters in it, as

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<v Speaker 1>I recall, so that would had bad ones that Godzilla

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<v Speaker 1>had to fight. Yeah, let them fight, Yes, some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of radiation eating dinosaur creatures. Yeah. Okay, So there's that trajectory.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing is the tone. The tone changes. It goes

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<v Speaker 1>from the bleak, just doom laden horror of the first

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<v Speaker 1>movie to a much lighter, campier, sillier kind of entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>even when it sometimes still has commentary. A lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>these sillier, campier Godzilla movies will be satirical about, say

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<v Speaker 1>pollution or politics or the entertainment industry, even like I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's one where there's like, you know, somebody's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to boost TV ratings by capturing King Kong and then

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<v Speaker 1>he gets out and has to fight Godzilla and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So they often satirize real elements in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not as dark as the first one. I

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<v Speaker 1>would also say, as it goes on, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people would be tempted to say that

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of production in the films goes down, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's exactly right. I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of production becomes more variable. It's not like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a steady decline in the quality of Godzilla movies, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead we see a sort of all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>quality pattern. Would you agree with that? I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do wonder how much. And this is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something that Godzilla scholars may have thoughts on and indeed

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<v Speaker 1>it is worth pointing out that Godzilla movies are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>an area where there is a People have written whole

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<v Speaker 1>books on this, There have been agonimic papers on this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is a well explored region of weird cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do wonder at times they get into the

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<v Speaker 1>sillier zone and the kid friendly zone, and I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what are the different forces involved. I mean, part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is clearly like the reception to Godzilla by young viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>but then also I wonder how much of it is

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<v Speaker 1>the filmmakers realizing like not only the limitations of rubber

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<v Speaker 1>suit um monster effects, but also the potential for humor

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<v Speaker 1>with those suits. You know, like if you're going for

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<v Speaker 1>just hard um uh you know, sci fi or really

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<v Speaker 1>serious grim horror with it, it feels maybe you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little, you know, a little more careful

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<v Speaker 1>about how you use the suit and how you show

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<v Speaker 1>the suit, where if you open that up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's all this potential for like the goofier stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to take place. Yes, I fully agree with that, though

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<v Speaker 1>there are some films that have managed to do both

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<v Speaker 1>actually and that's one thing I love about shin Godzilla.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it succeeds fully in real grim horror and

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<v Speaker 1>funny camp in the same movie. Yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a careful tightrope to walk though. But anyway, back to

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<v Speaker 1>the film we're going to talk about today. It arrives

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty nine, and it has long been regarded

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the worst Godzilla films. It seems recently though,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of critics have kind of softened on it.

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<v Speaker 1>They've kind of started to come around a little bit. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see the reasons for both both of

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<v Speaker 1>the for the for the initial harsh reaction and the

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<v Speaker 1>softening and warming up to this movie. There are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>elements that are not as impressive as other films in

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise. The stakes are less all encompassing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a world, you know, world defining conflict

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<v Speaker 1>to save the planet from a three headed monster from

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<v Speaker 1>outer space or whatever. Instead, it is a child dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with loneliness and bullying who has dreams about monsters that

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<v Speaker 1>that inspire him to stand up for himself. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for that to feel as epic as as the other

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<v Speaker 1>Godzilla movies in either in either an awe inspiring and

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<v Speaker 1>scary way or in a funny way. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that has to be acknowledged is that the

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<v Speaker 1>original special effects and production values in this film are

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<v Speaker 1>very limited compared to some other films in the franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the special effects sequences that do

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<v Speaker 1>appear are recycled from previous movies. We'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>that as we go on. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people have kind of come

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<v Speaker 1>around on this movie today as simply a different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creature than most other films in the Godzilla series.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a sweeter, more modest, more intimate meditation on

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<v Speaker 1>what Godzilla had come to mean for the children of

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<v Speaker 1>Japan and of the world. Having just watched this film

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<v Speaker 1>this morning for the first time, it's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>people hating it. I mean, it's seventy minutes. It's sixty

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<v Speaker 1>nine minutes long for crying out loud. You mean you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you don't spend too much time in this picture,

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<v Speaker 1>um and uh. And it has a lot of monsters

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<v Speaker 1>in it. I have to come back to the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the the Glenn Danzig school of filmmaking. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>he was asking an interview what makes a great vampire film?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, a lot of vampires and and

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<v Speaker 1>and so this film takes kind of that impart, like

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<v Speaker 1>what makes a great monster film? A lot of great

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<v Speaker 1>great kaiju film? Well, a lot of kaiju. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Kaiju in this picture. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if all of them are present, as the title would suggest,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them are present. And Okay, once

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<v Speaker 1>you've checked that box off, once you're definitely giving the

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<v Speaker 1>audience all the monsters, what else are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>give them? And what can you give them? This a

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<v Speaker 1>little different? What? What? What can you do that would

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<v Speaker 1>maybe be a satisfying and different story while still delivering

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that this picture has to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>for for the the audience that they're expecting. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great point. And I think you could also

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<v Speaker 1>argue that given the general trends in the Godzilla series

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<v Speaker 1>up to this point, increasingly kind of sillier and campier

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<v Speaker 1>type movies and uh increasing use of Godzilla as a

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<v Speaker 1>face rather than a hell, I think you could argue

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<v Speaker 1>it was inevitable that these movies would end up including

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<v Speaker 1>movies that were explicitly meant for kids, not not just

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<v Speaker 1>movies that kids happened to love. Uh So, just before

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<v Speaker 1>All Monsters Attack came out a couple of years before,

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<v Speaker 1>in nine seven, we get Son of Godzilla, which, true

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<v Speaker 1>to title, introduced a new character to the Kaiju pantheon,

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<v Speaker 1>that is Manila, who is yes, Godzilla's son, and the

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<v Speaker 1>movie deals with parenting themes, showing Godzilla teaching his child

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<v Speaker 1>how to roar and how to blast out his atomic breadth.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we see some scenes from that movie of

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<v Speaker 1>this type taken whole cloth and shown again in All

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<v Speaker 1>Monsters Attack. And I have read that the introduction of

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<v Speaker 1>Manila in this movie was the result of a desire

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<v Speaker 1>at studio at Toho to introduce a cute character and

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<v Speaker 1>acute relationship to create a movie that would not just

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to kids, but also to the young parents who

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<v Speaker 1>would be taking kids to see movies. It makes sense, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you want to introduce your your children

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<v Speaker 1>to these monster movies that by this point you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've you've grown up on. Uh, it helps if

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<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of cute element. I mean, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>encountered that myself with my my own son. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>is there is there a baby Yoda in there, a

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<v Speaker 1>grow goo that can you know get I mean Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars has tons of stuff like that obviously, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is there some sort of like cute element that will

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<v Speaker 1>definitely catch their attention that they can latch onto and

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<v Speaker 1>then perhaps they'll they'll latch onto the rest of a

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<v Speaker 1>V and franchise as well. Oh yeah, I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>watch the term and like, you know, your your your harsh,

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<v Speaker 1>cynical twentysomething Star Wars geeks hate the e Walks until

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<v Speaker 1>they have kids, and then they watch Return with their

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<v Speaker 1>kids and then they're like, oh, they're actually kind of great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it will describe me a lie in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit here. He is cute. He is, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>more than once we noticed mental It in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>doing specific sort of sounds and postures reminiscent of our baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, like a donkey sound that he keeps making. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the donkey sound, but no, he does. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point he does it kind of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a pose where he's like wiggling his arms and

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<v Speaker 1>legs and he just looks like a human baby but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so h A lot of footage from Son of Godzilla

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<v Speaker 1>would end up being reused in All Monsters Attack, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, not just footage from Son, but also from

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<v Speaker 1>recent uh kaiju movies like Everira Horror of the Deep

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<v Speaker 1>that came out in nineteen sixty six. That's more of

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<v Speaker 1>your classic meat Slam that's where Godzilla battles a giant

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<v Speaker 1>shrimp crayfish type monster, but also it used footage from

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<v Speaker 1>King Kong Escapes from sixty seven and from Destroy All

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<v Speaker 1>Monsters from sixty eight. Yeah, Destroy All Monsters also has

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<v Speaker 1>man Ala in it. M hm. So why so much

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<v Speaker 1>recycled footage from other Toho movies? Well, the answer appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be extreme constraints on time and budget. I've read

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<v Speaker 1>that this was in part due to cost overruns from

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<v Speaker 1>other movies Tohoa was making in nineteen nine, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as just general money problems at the studio. These were

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<v Speaker 1>hard times at Toho, but for whatever reason, the edict

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<v Speaker 1>came down that this movie had to be made fast

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<v Speaker 1>and cheap, and I think you can say that when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to special effects sequences, it kind of shows,

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<v Speaker 1>especially to the original ones, and how much footage is reused,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I don't think this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is hack work. All Monsters Attack was directed by Ishiro Honda,

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<v Speaker 1>the the A list Toho director who had made the

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<v Speaker 1>Origin in Old Godzilla, as well as most of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big movies and the series since then, and despite all

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<v Speaker 1>the limitations on the production, Honda apparently cited All Monsters

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<v Speaker 1>Attack as one of his personal favorites from the entire series.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering a bit why this was, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading from Godzilla the Official Guide to the

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<v Speaker 1>King of the Monsters. This was the the official Toho

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<v Speaker 1>licensed book on the series, written by Graham Skipper, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Skipper writes quote All Monsters Attack was truly a

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<v Speaker 1>labor of love for Honda, a small film that focused

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<v Speaker 1>less on the big monster fights and more on one

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<v Speaker 1>young child learning how to stand up for himself. While

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<v Speaker 1>Honda loved the spectacle and undeniable artistry of orchestrating giant

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<v Speaker 1>monsters rampaging through cities, he also loved the emotional core

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<v Speaker 1>of the people at the heart of these stories. Here

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<v Speaker 1>he was mostly left to do as he pleased within

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<v Speaker 1>the constraints, and thus we get what today feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a small indie film rather than a Kaiju blockbuster. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's right on the money. We're we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of left in the end with a cozy little

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<v Speaker 1>film about childhood struggles, bullying, courage, and the inspiration that

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<v Speaker 1>we take from our myths. Uh. And it's also a

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<v Speaker 1>film in which all the monster slamming is relegated to

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<v Speaker 1>dream sequences. But there is something very charming about it. Yeah. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it checks off the box of all the monsters, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of monster stuff happening on screen, but then it figures

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<v Speaker 1>out something very interesting to do with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the picture, and in that it has a lot in

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<v Speaker 1>common I think with a rather different Kaiju movie, a

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<v Speaker 1>rather different Godzilla movie that we previously covered on Weird House.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Godzilla versus Hetera, which which which I would say

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<v Speaker 1>is not as memorable from a character standpoint. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this movie has a has more heart, but that one

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<v Speaker 1>definitely had a lot of style, a lot of like

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<v Speaker 1>in a hip message at the core of it. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>while also giving us monsters. Yes, Hetera is I think

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<v Speaker 1>a better movie from the point of view of just

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<v Speaker 1>like weird imagery and having lots of crazy visual flair

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff that stands out like that, but all monsters

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<v Speaker 1>attack has it has a soul and hetera. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe yeah, alright, Well, when we were thinking about elevator

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<v Speaker 1>pitches for this one, I instantly thought The never Ending

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<v Speaker 1>Story but with Kaiju. Oh yeah, and it really does

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<v Speaker 1>remind me quite a bit of the film adaptation of

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<v Speaker 1>Michael DA's nine novel The never Ending Story. I love

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<v Speaker 1>both of these, by the way, um. I know Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Linda did not like the film adaptation, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>removed my heart for both of them. But in um,

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<v Speaker 1>in the film adaptation to The Never Ending Story, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a kind of lonely child in the city with

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<v Speaker 1>a disrupted home life who finds courage in the realm

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<v Speaker 1>of fantasy. And in the film anyway, at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>he eventually unleashed is a luck dragon on his bullies.

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<v Speaker 1>In this film, we have a lonely latchkey kid in

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<v Speaker 1>late sixties Japan living in a heavily industrialized area, and

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<v Speaker 1>he finds courage through his dream jaunts to Monster Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of actually summoning a Kaiju to defeat his bullies

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<v Speaker 1>and bank robbers, he home alones them as listener mail,

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<v Speaker 1>uh suggested, Yeah, he like he lays traps essentially and

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<v Speaker 1>gets them to fall through holes in the floor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well let's go ahead and listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer audio on this one. Uh. This is the English

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<v Speaker 1>dub trailer, which I think works best for the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>format here, though this is not the cut of the

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<v Speaker 1>film I ended up watching. Um. Usually I'm all for

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<v Speaker 1>the English dub on a film like this, that lets

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<v Speaker 1>me focus more on the monsters and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>the human performances are generally less important in a picture

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<v Speaker 1>like this, But HBO Max only offered subtitles, so I

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<v Speaker 1>watched it as if I were viewing a Kurasawa film.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmmmmmmmmm. Where is the island? Computer? Go on? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>do you take a jet? Take a jet to get there?

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<v Speaker 1>M m m. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome board

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<v Speaker 1>Pan American Flight one Director Monster Island. We'll be flying

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty five thousand eight and we'll arrive on schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope you have a pleasant flight. Thank you. M

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<v Speaker 1>are you watched the island over? What's ther island over?

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<v Speaker 1>We're ready to land, Scott Zuma and come back on

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<v Speaker 1>m all right, it sounds like a party, huh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I hadn't already watched it, I would bid the is.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of advertising for this film, I haven't confirmed this,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Internet alleges that the tagline was see prehistoric

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<v Speaker 1>monsters crawl out of the hidden depths of the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and take revenge against the living. That's not even closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't not even remotely describing this movie, not at all

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<v Speaker 1>all Right, if you're wondering where you can watch this picture, well,

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<v Speaker 1>as of this recording, you can watch it on HBO Max,

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<v Speaker 1>but all streaming is subject to change, especially HBO Max

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<v Speaker 1>as of late. Um, so watch it while you can there,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But it's also available on Blu Ray from

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<v Speaker 1>the Criterion collection on They're just absolutely worshipful Godzilla the

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<v Speaker 1>Showa era Films, Night nine five. I've looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>physical packaging for this at Atlanta's own Video Drome. They

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<v Speaker 1>have them for rent there, of course, and the packaging

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<v Speaker 1>is just splendid, has all this amazing new artwork in it,

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<v Speaker 1>these very flashy, colorful illustrations of Godzilla and the monsters

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<v Speaker 1>that he battles. I may have to pick that up

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Oh, it's it's it's it's great, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice package. All right. Well, let's get into the

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<v Speaker 1>people here, uh involved in this film. So, as we

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<v Speaker 1>noted already, Ishu Rojanda is the director left nineteen eleven

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<v Speaker 1>through legendary Toho film director who of course home fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four Godzilla in the Movie that started at All and

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<v Speaker 1>he directed forty four pictures in total, eight of those

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<v Speaker 1>Godzilla films culminating in seventy five Terror of Mecca Godzilla.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also directed Rodan, the Mysteriens, The Human Vapor

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<v Speaker 1>Matango UM which, by the way, if you're out there

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying UM the current mushroom Zombie um horror series on television,

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<v Speaker 1>well you need to go back and watch Matango. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if they were the first mushroom zombie

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<v Speaker 1>type picture, but they have to be one of the first.

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<v Speaker 1>If maybe you should do Matango on the show, we

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<v Speaker 1>probably should. Yeah, okay, but oh. Other films he did

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<v Speaker 1>include Frankenstein Versus Bearragon, The War of the Gargantua's Space, Amiba,

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<v Speaker 1>and more. He was a friend of director at Kira

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<v Speaker 1>Kurasawa and served as director counselor or chief assistant director

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<v Speaker 1>on karasas epic Ruyan. His name continues to appear in

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<v Speaker 1>the credits on Godzilla movies and in other homages. He

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<v Speaker 1>also directed nineteen sixty three's at Tragon, which we previously

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<v Speaker 1>covered on Weird House, and of course, as we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>we also covered seventy ones Godzilla versus Hetera, which he

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<v Speaker 1>did not direct, but still Godzilla picture. Hondo is a

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<v Speaker 1>masterful director, and you can you can just feel his

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<v Speaker 1>storytelling confidence even when he's working with what appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be extremely uh limiting constraints on like his budget and

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<v Speaker 1>what he could do with the movie. You just see

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<v Speaker 1>him like kind of just accepting it and plowing straight

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<v Speaker 1>through and making the best movie he could. Absolutely. Now

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<v Speaker 1>getting into some of the other connections, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of one of the situations when you start looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the people involved in uh, certainly Tohoe pictures, um

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<v Speaker 1>you see like this the Japanese studio system of the

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<v Speaker 1>day in place, so a lot of these uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're frequent Tohoe actors or frequent um Um Honda collaborators.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh. The screenplay here was by Shinichi Sakazawa, who

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen twenty through a frequent collaborator with Honda inscribe

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<v Speaker 1>of many Godzilla movies, beginning with nineteen sixty two is

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<v Speaker 1>King Kong Versus Godzilla. And he also wrote Adrigan, which

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<v Speaker 1>we it's covered for. He was one of the writers

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.719
<v Speaker 1>on it. I forget how that shook out, but um, anyway,

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>getting into the the actors here, of course we have

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>to call out Haruo Nakajima, who plays Godzilla. He is

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the man in the suit. He ROWI seventeen. He played

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>godzill in twelve consecutive films. He was also in Mathra

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in the War of the gargantuas as well as a

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Cure Kurasawa's Seven Samurai in a bit role and not

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>as a giant monster. He's generally considered a legend and

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the rubber monster suit actor par excellence. Was he ever

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>a pro wrestler? Like? How did he get all those

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>moves down? Um? I don't think he had a wrestling background. Um,

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>he just you know, as I think, like a lot

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of these, well, the way these different monster actors end

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>up in the suits, that often comes end up to

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to find them. Like sometimes it's a case where they're like, uh,

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, a studied physical performer. Other times they're like

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they're the willing person there. The person that was around

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>it was like, yes, I will do this, and it

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>became their thing, and certainly Uh Nakajima became like one

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 1>of the most legendary rubber suit I mean certainly the

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>most legendary Kaiju actor of all time. Now when it

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>comes to Manila, the Little Zilla creature Godzilla's Son, Uh,

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 1>this uh performance is by little Man Machin whose real

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>name was u Masseo Fukuzawa, who the ninety one through

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand UM He played Manila in three films, The

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Son of Godzilla, Destroy All Monsters and All Monsters Attack,

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>which we previously noted, and he followed this up with

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of Kaiju projects, Ultraman Story from eighty four,

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>ultra Que the Movie from nineteen ninety. He also played

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the juvenile version of the title Kaiju in the North

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Korean kaiju movie Pulga Sary from UM. His final film

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was the nine Tokasatsu film uh Mick, a Droid Robo

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Kill Beneath Disco Club Layla. I haven't seen it, but

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you may have seen that the cover art he's getting

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>like some dark soldier with red eyes on it. Um. Uh,

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>this is not one i'ch steen, but it's a I

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>think some people really dig it. But anyway, um, this

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>was a diminutive suit actor who according to Godzilla Wiki.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Godzilla Wiki in addition to the normal

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>databases on this one, because they generally just have excellent

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>information about Godzilla pictures. They say that he worked prior

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to this as a mini wrestler, but I couldn't find

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>out really anything about that, like where he wrestled, who

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>he wrestled for, what his name was. I haven't guessing

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he was a little man when he wrestled, but uh,

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean there were there were some Japanese mini wrestlers,

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>but I think even the ones that I'm aware of,

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>they worked outside of Japan frequently, so I don't know

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>how much of a scene there was for this in

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Japanese wrestling during this time period. He played a couple

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of dwarf roles in the early sixties, including the Toshira

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Maffoony Sinbad movie or well, I'm not sure if it's

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>actually a sin Bad movie, but it was released in

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the West as The Lost World of Sinbad. I've never

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>seen that one. Now a note on on Manila here.

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>He's not to be confused with god Zuki, the juvenile

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>flying Kaiju from the hand of our Barrack cartoon the

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Godzilla Power Hour from seventy eight. I know a lot

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of you out there, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Also,

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not to be confused with Godzilla Jr. Who debuted

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in Toho's film Godzilla Versus Mecha Godzilla two and appeared

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in two pictures after that. Both Godzuki and Godzilla Jr.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Have baby dragon vibes, while um, Manila here he's more

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how would you describe him. He's kind

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>of like baby turtle without a shell, right, yeah, baby

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>turtle baby frog. Kind of like tadpole, a quadrupedal tadpole.

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. Yeah. Very reminiscent though, of a human toddler,

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>not only in his appearance but also in the way

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>he moves around. Yes, I mean, I think they were

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>really trying to play up that baby angle to make, uh,

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>make Manilla as cute as possible. That was the directive. Yes, Now,

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned that there's a human child at the center

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of this picture. Uh, the child is the character uh

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Ichiro Miki or just Ichiro is uh I don't even

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>know this is the case where they really say his

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>last name in the picture, but was played by Tomonori Yazaki.

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Dates unknown. He was a Japanese child actor. This was

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>his first film, followed by mostly TV roles, some ultraman,

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>some common rider through around seventy three or seventy four.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>His other film is the nineteen two monster flick uh

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Diagoro Versus Goliath. I've read that there there's been attempts

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to sort of find uh this actor as an adult

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, get his his take on what filming

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>this movie was like. But I don't think any of those,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>uh those searches were ever fruitful. So I'm I'm not

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>sure you know what became of him. But I lived

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a private life after his child acting days were behind him.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Leave Ichiro alone, let him live his life. Now there's

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>another character of note in the picture. So again, Ichiro

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>is a latch key kid, so his parents were lot

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>He's left to go home and look after himself and

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>his uh we meet this this friend of his, this um,

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>this man who lives in the same apartment complex that

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>is a toy maker or toy designer, an inventor of sorts. Right, Yeah,

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>he at one point he's building something he calls a

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>quote Kittie computer in the subtitles on the version I saw,

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's like a computer that shows live footage of

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a moon landing. Yeah, in great quality. I was like,

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in color. Yeah, but yeah, so I don't know what's

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>going on there, but yeah, he's a toy maker and

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>he is he's essentially eros uh friend like he's a friend,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and he looks after Ichiro sometimes when his when his

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>parents are both working and can't come home. Yeah. This

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>character's name is Shinpei and Nami played by the actor

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Hideo i'm Amoto, who through two thousand and three. And

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a sometimes these these various Toho actors are

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>actors that you just kind of see another Toho films,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and there's kind of like, you know, just an ensemble

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of of of of Toho actors. But there's a very

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>good chance folks out there have seen i'm Amoto before

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>because he has very distinctive looks. Tall, thin Japanese character

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 1>actor with kind of gaunt features that are maybe not

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>accentuated much in this picture because he's just playing a

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>normal human and nothing. You know, he's not an assassin

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>or anything. But he worked in a number of notable films.

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>His work includes Kurasawa's Yo Jimbo from sixty one, Quite

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>On from sixty four, sort of Doom, and The Tango

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>from sixty six. He was also in Message for Space

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and a Trigon so, two films that we previously covered,

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>though I think those were smaller roles in those pictures. Uh.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>He was also in International Secret Police Key of Keys

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>from sixty five, which is known to many Western movie

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>goers as the movie that What's Up Tiger Lily? The

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Woody Allen picture was as a dub off. That was

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a picture where they took a Japanese film and dubbed

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>over it with like new comedic dialogue. I've never seen it,

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's the basic pitch. I think I've never seen

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it either. Anyway. Amamoto was in a string of Godzilla

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and Kaiju movies, as well as nix Is Echo Echo

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>as a rat to Birth of the Wizard and nine

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>seven's Mighty Jack was that featured on Mystery Science Theater.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>It was, yes, Mighty Jack. Well, he's very good in

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 1>this role. It it calls on him to be the kindly,

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>understanding adult in in an uncaring world. Yes, let's see,

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to skip a bit in the cast here.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Um we we do see at Chiro's father a little bit.

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>He's played by Kinji Sahara, who who was born in

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>two and is presumably still alive. He's a Japanese actor

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>who has the distinction of being in the most Godzilla films,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>or at least was at the At one point he

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>was in thirteen of them, which I think puts him

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>what one over um the man in the Suit, in

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>addition to numerous other Toho pictures. He was in the

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>first Godzilla movie as a newspaper reporter and a party

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>guy in a boat, and his last Godzilla film was

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four's Final Wars, and it looks like

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>he was last active around and then finally. The music

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>in this one is by Kunio mia Ucci, who lived

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.959
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty two through two thousand and six, Japanese Toho

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>composer whose first big score was The Human Vapor in

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty. He followed this up with such films and

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>TV shows as Mighty Jack, Ultraman, Godzilla Versus Gegan, and

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>his stock music was used in Shin ultraman Um, which

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen yet, but apparently Joe it gives ultraman

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the Shin Godzilla treatment. Oh well, at least that's what

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the title and and the posters seemed to imply. Oh,

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I've looked this up before, but I always forget what

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it is that the title Shin Godzilla means. And I

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>think the deal is that Shin is a war that

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>has multiple meanings, Like it could be interpreted to mean

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the word god, or it could be interpreted to mean

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>something like original or pure m. Is that right? I

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>believe that that that sounds familiar. I haven't looked into

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 1>it recently, but I remember reading about it when Shin

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Godzilla first came out, and it's kind of like taken

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>on its own meeting to me, like you put Shin

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>on the beginning of something, and I'm expecting it to

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>have like a lot of scenes of bureaucracy dealing with

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>with UH an outrageous event. So like, I think you

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>could apply it to anything Shin Godzilla, Shin King Kong,

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Shin Matango there there. You could really

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>go crazy with Shin critters s critters shin grimlins too.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what we want to see, all right, You ready

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>to look at some stuff about the plot, let's do it. Well,

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of course, we start with that beautiful Toho logo. I

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>know I've said this on the show before, but it

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel so good every time I see the

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Toho logo, Really, something in my chest just relaxes. There's

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>something about how it looks like it there's light shining

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>through glass on it that it feels like I am

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>in the waiting room at at an office for a

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>professional that I trust, you know, like I don't know

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to a doctor in this scenario, or

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>or what I'm going to a Tohoe picture, and I

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>trust that I'm going to be taken care of. You

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>are in good hands now. How to describe the score

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>that plays with the opening credits. The music throughout this

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>movie is generally rather strange in a way that I liked.

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>It's got this opening jazz tune that makes me think

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the Pink Panther. But after many

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>cups of coffee and then once the singing starts, it

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>gets really weird. Yeah, I guess the vibe is kind

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of hip and fun at least until you start reading

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 1>the subtitles for the for the opening same song. Oh,

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that in a second. But also I

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 1>love how the opening credits are full of monster fight clips,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and there was one I genuinely laughed out loud. So

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it's showing Godzilla fighting with one of the spider monsters.

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the monster they fight originally in Son

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of Godzilla, and they show the fight again in this movie,

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and so it's showing this big spider and then there's

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>just a freeze frame on the spider spraying spider juice

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>out of its mouth. Yeah. Again, this is a movie

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that knows the kids out there want monsters. They know

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>people come to Godzilla to sea monsters, and they're gonna

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>start delivering right away. And I enjoy how the spider

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>has a Sam Elliott mustache. Yeah, it's very furry. It's

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a disturbingly furry spider. It's a bristly spider. It's got

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>like pink crystals for eyes and Sam Elliott upper lip.

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Just because they're using stock footage from old films though,

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they're not going to go ahead and use

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>footage from later on in the picture, which I I

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>always feel like it's a little cheap in a in

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>a movie, you know, I don't want to see the

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>trailer is probably already ruined enough. I don't need the

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>film itself ruining itself, because we do see like this

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>really sick Judo throw from Godzilla where he drops a

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>monster right on its head. And of course this is

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a scene from later on in the film. It's essentially

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>like the finishing move Godzilla uses. That's so good. It's

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>a triple dip. It's from another movie already, and then

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they show it to you twice in this movie, so

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 1>you could see they were they were trying to pad

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>out the run time. I think, Uh, then again, I

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know they would have had a credit sequence anyway.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they just might as well. They're like, oh, let's

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 1>show that fight again in the credits. Why not. I

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>totally accept your criticism of that as a move, But

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of movies we have loved have done that.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>The Really Bloody Sword showed you the entire movie during

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the opening credits. They absolutely did. Yeah, sometimes you can

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you can pin it on like Western distributors of of

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>movies from Europe or Asia and clearly, it's just like, well,

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>let's keep them interested so they don't leave the theater

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>or drive away from the drive in. But yeah, this

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.760
<v Speaker 1>is this is the the original vision for the pictures

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that you can't blame it anybody else. Oh, but let's

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>come back to So it's singing this song through the

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>opening credits and they play it again later on. What

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is the deal with the lyrics here? They're they're intriguing

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>an energetic of female vocalist that, according to the subtitles,

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>is basically saying, don't be afraid of monsters, kids. Monsters

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>are actually themselves shocked by the real threat industrial pollution,

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a theme that would become central to the later film

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Godzilla versus Hetera, which is the one we previously covered

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>on on Weird House before Heatera is just a wicked

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 1>pollution monster who like powers up by huffing smokestacks. Yeah,

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>in that movie, it's like the central theme and the

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>threat at the center of the film is the physical

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>embodiment of that real world threat. In this movie, I

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this. I guess it kind of helps

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to ground the film in a world where the monsters

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>have lost their power. Later, much later, in the picture,

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the monsters the kaiju are compared to gods, and if

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>here to take that and and run with it. Back

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to the beginning of the picture. Here, this is like

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>we're living in the twilight of the God. This is

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>a world that has lost its faith. The grown ups

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>have lost their faith anyway, and the only people who

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>really have faith in the gods a k a. Big

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>rubber monsters are the children. Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Like and but a theme of this song, apart from

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing about the pollution, yeah, is explicitly about the

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>monsters being weakened somehow. Like one part says, uh says

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the monsters are crying why is earth such a hard

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>place to live? That it's the lyric uh, And then

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>another part is uh. I'm paraphrasing for this part, but

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like wham bam, crash. You can smash everything, but

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>still it's not easy being a monster. See. This is

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>again why they probably had to have a whole bunch

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of monster footage at the beginning of the picture. You

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>can't have this be the first thing kids watch. They're

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna lose all hope. But anyway, as the credits finish out,

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>we see, uh, we see some setting. It's the industrial

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it's supposed to be Kawasaki, but it's an

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>industrial area of Japan with a lot of I don't know,

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>oil refineries and factories and just smoke stacks pouring smog everywhere.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>A barren world populated only by smoke and factories and trucks.

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>But amidst this unforgiving landscape, we see a couple of

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>sweet kids. Itchy, oh, our our main kid. He's walking

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>along holding hands with his friends at Chico and they

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 1>are there. I guess they're trying to make their way

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 1>home after school through this infernal landscape of of suit

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and asthma. It reminds me once again of last week's

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>picture let Sleeping Corpses Live, where we start off in

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a very industrial British city and we're supposed to be Manchester,

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I think gives Manchester. Uh. And the only thing that

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>really calls out like any kind of like spirit of

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>fun or rebellion or anything like that is the streaker

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in this film, it's the children. Like that everything is

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>is kind of gross and grinding and busy, but these

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>children are just a basket of joy, you know, holding

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the hands um against all the grime behind them, And

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, I really love these kids, especially

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>uh Ichiro played by Yazaki. Here he's he's just so good.

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just a really solid kid's performance. Like there's a

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of energy and authenticity to it that you don't

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>always see in a in a child actor. Yeah, this

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>is a cute kid. I was a little confused as

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to why some reviewers had in the past written stuff

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>that they considered Ichiro annoying, but uh, I think maybe

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I know I was reading something that made me understand

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a little better. I think it's possible that part of

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the reaction to this character was that some people were

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>hearing a particular dub of the film where his lines

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>were dubbed by an adult who did this really nasal,

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>whiney voice for all of his speaking parts. And I

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>can't be sure, but I think that dub exists, and

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that is not the version I saw, So

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that is the reason for sure,

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>but that would partially explain it, because I thought, I

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Ro is great, that is a great, great point, and

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's probably the reason. It reminds me of a

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>film like say House by the cemetery where kids. Bob

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>is Bob the kid and the Bob, Yes, Bob the

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>demon child with an adult voice. Right, Yeah, he's clearly

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>dubbed by a grown woman, and it creates a weird

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>energy in the film, Like you you kind of there's

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>an uncanny nous to him that and there's a certain

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>amount of uncanny is that's supposed to be there, And

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's this added layer of of the uncanny

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and in a picture like this, yeah, Echo is not

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.439
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be uncanny. He's not supposed to be weird.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And you get the wrong dub on there, and it's

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>going to totally change the feeling you get exactly. So

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that may very well be what's going on. Um.

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But so we we follow each arro around and a

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of the early parts of the movie are just

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of establishing his daily life and his struggles, and

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe we could talk a little bit about elements from

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>from each of these these things that are established. So

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>one theme of the movie is bullying. Ich r Oh

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>is consistently bullied by a gang of bigger kids who

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>are led by this this sadist bully king named Gabbara.

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>So we see them knock each er o over on

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>purpose as they run by, and they taunt him and

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>they call him weak, and they make him feel helpless,

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and you really feel for each Rro Like there's you

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>know these moments where the camera just lingers on his

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>face as he looks frustrated and sad and and knows

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>that he can't really fight back. Yeah, yeah, and you

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>know he's a good kid, and and he doesn't He

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't want to make anything worse. He doesn't want

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to escalate things. Then you've got another theme. So bullying

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>is one. Another theme is ich Ro's love of the Kaiju.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what you thought about this. Does the movie

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>take place in a world basically in the real world

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>where monsters don't exist, but the children are familiar with

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the existing Godzilla movies, or does it take place in

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a world where the events of the previous Godzilla movies

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>are known of as real events that have previously happened

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>in the world. I couldn't tell which, but I think

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's the former, like he's literally seen the films,

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, so if I had to to choose one,

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I would go in that direction. Um, just because that

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>basically I mean no particular thing leads me to think

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that though that there is a part where we see

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>a Kaiju action figure or doll, but I think we

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>saw one in Hetera as well, So that's that alone

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is not an indicator. But I think overall, I get

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the feeling that, yeah, this is a world in which

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the monsters are only on TV and in the minds

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of children. So Ichiro is having monster paradolia. Like a

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>car goes by and he's like, oh, that car, the

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>screeching it sounds just like Manila. It goes key ki ki.

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever heard Nila make a kiki

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>key sound, unless that's supposed to be the donkey sound.

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're getting into that whole situation where we're not sure,

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>uh what or not. It just it varies what sounded

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>animal makes based on the language in which you're describing it.

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 1>So maybe donkeys go kiki ki in Japanese. Yeah, maybe

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't say okay. So that's another theme. It'syero, he

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>gives bullied, he loves the monsters. But also the theme

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of this movie is loneliness, and I think it it

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>tackles that in a pretty head on way. It's Erro's

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>family here is is working class and both of his

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>parents work long hours to make ends meet, and he

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>is often home alone after school fending for himself. So

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>we see a scene where he's walking by the train

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>tracks and this old, you know, busted industrial landscape, and

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a train starts going by, and the conductor in the

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>front of the train or the engineer, I guess whatever.

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>The guy in the front of the train is his dad,

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and his dad calls out, oh, hey, Zero, I'm working tonight,

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>be good till your mom gets home. And then actually

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>after this we stick with Ichiro's father for a little bit.

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>We see him take a smoke break with his co worker,

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and we we learned that the father wants to save

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>up enough money that they can move away from the smog,

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>move out to the country or to a place where

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the air is clean. So you see that he's working

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>long hours to I guess, try to get his his

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>family to this better place. But then also in the scene,

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>we learned from his coworker who's reading a newspaper that

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.720
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of bank robbers on the loose,

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>fleeing police with a suitcase full of money, and these

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>are Tchekhov's bank robbers. They will show up later, but

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>we learned that they took fifty million yen, and you

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 1>can just see Ichiro's father dreaming about what he could

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>do with money like that. Now we come back to bullying.

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>There's another bullying scene where um Ichiro and and Sachiko

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>are are walking around and Ichiro finds a vacuum tube

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>in the grass. I guess because this is an area

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:59.240
<v Speaker 1>that used to be like an electronics factory, and um

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>he finds and then the bullies come up on him

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and they take away his vacuum tube, and they call

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>him a baby, and they like mock him to his face.

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>And for some reason I found something very heart wrenching

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 1>about the theft of each rose vacuum tube. I think

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's because he found it. And this kind of hit

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 1>me in a strong way, because I have memories of

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>being a little kid and finding a treasure of some

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 1>kind just lying out on the ground somewhere. That's a

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>powerfully nostalgic kind of memory. And I have one specific

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>memory of something like this happening to me. And I

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was out at some event, I think, and I found

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a loose spool of tape from an audio cassette and

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like holding it and letting it blow in

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the wind, and then an older kid took it away

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>from me and threw it over the edge of a bridge.

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Um and that, Yeah, that that really stuck with me.

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>So so anyway, I felt the vacuum tube scene very hard. Yeah,

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this felt like a very authentic moment in this picture

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>or like, because I think we can all we all

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 1>have memories like that where we find some sort of

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>weird bit of discarded technology or or a registrate garbage,

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's fascinating and we want to want to keep

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it and uh. And then also the childhood insult of

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of him being a baby, Like I definitely I don't

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>have memories of this myself, but I've seen that watching

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>my my son grow up. Like there's a period where

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>to call someone a baby was the was the biggest insult.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Um to the point where he would call the cat

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a baby if he was snat at a cat sick burn. Yeah,

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's clearly you know, it's clearly hurting, Ichi wrote,

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>but uh to hear this, But then there's also this

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of innocence to it, like these kids are so young,

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>even their their cruelty has a certain innocence to it. Yeah.

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>But then one more element of Io's daily life we

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>learned about is his friendship with Shiny the toymaker. And

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh so when when he's coming home, I think,

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess Chimpay is like maybe his neighbor. And so

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 1>he comes home and sees him working on this this

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>electronic device, the kiddie computer that shows people landing on

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 1>the moon, and h it's clear that you know, he's

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>welcome hanging out in this guy's shop and they're friendly,

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and him pays a good, you know, nurturing influence on

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>this kid. But it's also funny because he makes this computer,

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>he expects each year O to be all impressed. But

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.919
<v Speaker 1>what Ichiro says is the Moon's okay, but there's somewhere else.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather go Monster Island. And then he just starts

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>listing all the monsters. And I was like, oh, this

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>also made me. This seems authentic. Don't don't kids love

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to list all the monsters or list all the whatevers? Uh?

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, they do. And I'm I'm not going to

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>be a hypocrite. I'm also gonna admit I love to

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 1>list the monsters, and I've never grown out of that.

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like my son will definitely list all the Pokemon,

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>all the dungeons and dragons, dragon varieties, um and and

0:51:58.239 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's great. I love it too. I love

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>good monster list. But I think we see one of

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the reasons that Ichiro is so infatuated with the monsters.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 1>He talks about how they're all stronger than Gabbarra, his bully,

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you know, they don't have to worry

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 1>about bullies. They they can do what we want, what

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>they want. They're free because they're strong. Uh. And then

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 1>eventually we see Ichiro go back home uh. And there's

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of a lonely snack scene where he, you know,

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>his mom left out a snack for him. He has that.

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He watches some TV and he watches like the news

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>where he learns about the the bank robbers stealing the

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty million yen. He switches I think to a soap

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 1>opera or the people are like saying, oh, I love you,

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and then he there's a really funny moment where he

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember that the phrase he says in Japanese,

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>but the translation is he just goes yuck. But then

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it's segways to him playing around with this like toy

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>radio he's put together that he dreams like of calling

0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Monster Island, which seguys into a dream of him visiting

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Monster Island. And this is going to be one of

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the major themes for the rest of the movie is

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that these recurring visits in dreams to Monster Island where

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all the monsters live, where we're going to see a

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of fights between monsters. So much of this is

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be footage from other movies, but I think

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>some original stuff too. And uh, this is where Ichiro

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>meets Manila, the son of Godzilla, and they become friends

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 1>because they have a lot in common. It turns out

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Manila is also being bullied by a monster on Monster Island,

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and that monster has the same name as Ichiro's bully.

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>They're both called Gabbarra. Oh. By the way, he initially

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 1>dream travels to Monster Island um via direct flight, which

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought was a marvelous dream sequence. Yes, I love

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.359
<v Speaker 1>how in these scenes with Manila, he's he's also as

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, I hear you know Godzilla. Do you

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>think you could introduce me to him? Because I'd love

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to climb on his back, and Manila is like, well,

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll see, I'll see what Silla talked in this.

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Manila says, I'll see what I can do.

0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Godzilla, he doesn't like me around all

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the time because he gets onto me for for not

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 1>being strong enough, for not standing up to for myself

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:15.320
<v Speaker 1>enough and um. And of course that again mirrors the

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>situation with I Tiro. Oh yeah, that's right, because we

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>actually do see a scene where Ichira's father says, you know,

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>he uh, he feels for his son, but he wishes

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 1>he would stand up for himself. So we're gonna get

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.879
<v Speaker 1>some some slams, some smackdowns on the island. I think

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we see Godzilla fighting um Ibira. I think the Ebro

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Horror of the Deep, the shrimp crayfish monster. Uh. We

0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 1>see various fights take place, and in a way, Ichiro

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of like watches and learns from them. But he

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>also learns from watching Son of Godzilla, like like morph

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>up and try to fight against Gabbarra. Uh. The like

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he like grows and he and they fight and Gabra

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>always wins at first. But you kind of like pick

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>up some clues along the way about how he might

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>beat him later on. Now, Gabra is is pretty interesting.

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:18.799
<v Speaker 1>He's he's again our our main kaiju antagonist, and he

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>is original with this picture. So many of the other

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Kaiju we encounter are aurist clips from other scenes or

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe reused puppets even in the films that they that

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>they originally appeared in, But Gabra exists for this picture.

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 1>This is his first picture where we see this costume

0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>um and I think he's pretty great. I've read that

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to resemble a mutated frog or toad, but

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:47.359
<v Speaker 1>he winds up with more feline features somehow, like kind

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of like a green panther. He's like a lizard cat. Yeah,

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think these feelings of like cats similarities are

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>also accentuated by he's green and scaly, but he has

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the shot cock of orange hair on the top of

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 1>his head amid these various horns like this, this row

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of horns down down his head as well, And I

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like the orange hair, the green skin, it kind

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of gives him a cartoon leprechn look, you know what

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Ye yea. Though I've I've of course that's

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>not what they were going for here. I've read that

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 1>what they were originally aiming for with this design was

0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 1>more of a something that alluded to the Japanese only

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of an ogre figure. Um. And if

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you go to the Wicked Zilla page for this monster,

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see some of the preliminary sketches, uh,

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the way they envisioned this creature. And yeah, I can

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely see a sense of the only here before it's

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.879
<v Speaker 1>realized in the suit. Oh, that almost kind of makes

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 1>sense with so Gabra being like this bully who just

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>uh wayleys each yarrow while he's on the way home

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>from school, like sits by the roadside and attacks him

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>as he goes past. He's kind of like a bandit

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 1>in a way. And that I think there's classically a

0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit of overlap between the concepts of some one

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and and like banditry ideas. Yeah, and I think also

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>there are often ideas of lightning with the one. And

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 1>indeed Gabra here has an electricity attack that he uses, um,

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but he he doesn't have a breath weapon. I thought

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that was interesting. He doesn't seem to have a projectile weapon, um,

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 1>which I think is an interesting choice, uh, because a

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of times in these movies you see some sort

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of like a ranged specialist kaiju, and that's generally the

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a weak point for Godzilla or for GAMMERA, whoever's

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 1>facing such a Kaiju, even though Godzilla of course has

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>an amazing breath weapon that he can use at range. Now,

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>for all of the kind of like sweet elements of

0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 1>this movie, there are also some things that ring kind

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>of weird. One of them is when we're seeing Godzilla

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>training son of Godzilla here training Manila how to use

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>his radiation breath. He's he doesn't by like stomping on

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.919
<v Speaker 1>his ale. Yeah, I step on your tail that makes

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you really shoot the radiation. Uh. And until then he

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>can only kind of like blow these like rings of

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>radiation that don't really do anything. Yeah, So I gets

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like Godzilla's lesson here is that you must feel pain

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:19.919
<v Speaker 1>and m and give in to your anger, like he's

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 1>basically giving him the dark side of the force field.

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Strike me down with all of your hate. Journey towards

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Monster Island will be complete. So again, there there may

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>be a generational divide on on the message here. The

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 1>parenting message of Godzilla, but I mean it's it's a

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>music of the picture. Yes, I mean there's several things.

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>There's also a real world thing where uh you know,

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a very nice message about giving giving each a

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:53.479
<v Speaker 1>confidence to stand up to his bullies. But I don't

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>know if the exact way that he does that in

0:58:55.800 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the end is the best. But I think he kind

0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of like fights them, but then he also at their goating,

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like pulls a mean prank on a guy who's just

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to paint a sign and gets him covered in paint.

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Oh yeah, and this was what the

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>bullies were trying to get him to do earlier in

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the picture. They're like, hey, see that guy painting the

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 1>sign on the top of the ladder, you should go

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 1>blow the horn on his motorcycle. So he falls off

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the ladder and he's like, of course I'm not gonna

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm a good kid, and they make fun

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of him, and then later he's like, I'm I'm a

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 1>brave kid. Now watch me go make that man fall

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:30.600
<v Speaker 1>off the ladder, and he does. So. I think that

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>something's a little confused there, But there's another major plot line. Um.

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm going to go into great detail

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.959
<v Speaker 1>unless there's anything about it you wanted to hit rob

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 1>But a major part of the real world plot, apart

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>from what what's happening in the dreams of Monster Island, is, uh,

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the developing story about the bank robbers with the fifty

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>million yen who are hiding out in a nearby factory.

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's near the place where Ichero found the

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>vacuum tube. And ultimately he is kidnapped by these bank

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 1>robbers because we know it's your loves to like find

1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and pick up treasures, and one of the treasures he

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>finds and picks up is a driver's license dropped by

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the robbers, and oh, now now he knows

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>who they are, so they have to kidnap him, and

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:16.400
<v Speaker 1>then ultimately he has to outsmart them with tricks and traps,

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and after the robbers are caught, there's this very interesting

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 1>scene where it's almost like the movie is telling us

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the moral of the story, and uh, they like the

1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 1>press hale, little Ichiro is a hero, and Ichiro gives

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 1>credit for his heroism to Manila, to the monster from

1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the Godzilla movies, and uh, and there so there's this

1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 1>exchange where the toymaker his friend Shinpei is hanging out

1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 1>there near all of the reporters and he explains to them.

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:48.480
<v Speaker 1>He says, he means Manila the monster. I think I understand.

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.920
<v Speaker 1>He's like a higher power. And one of the reporters

1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 1>asks for clarification he's as a higher power, and Shinpai says,

1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Adults believe in God's so why can't children

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 1>have their own God's too, like Manila? And it's kind

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of a funny line, but oh, something stirred in me there.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely agree. Yeah, this is this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite parts of the picture, really, um, because I

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's rather insightful and accurate, and I think

1:01:16.200 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a thing that we we may be touched on

1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to some degree in our discussion of Godzilla and Weird

1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:25.400
<v Speaker 1>House before, but here it's directly brought up in the picture. Um,

1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this idea that you know, toy monsters and ultimately monster

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:32.880
<v Speaker 1>media in general, that these are icons that connect children

1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:36.720
<v Speaker 1>in the natural world to the powerful realm of super beings.

1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 1>In this film, localized on Monster Island, which one can

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.440
<v Speaker 1>easily compare to the various sacred mountains of various cultures

1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:46.800
<v Speaker 1>around the world. So the monsters are strength and courage.

1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:51.680
<v Speaker 1>They are the absolute personification or expression of emotion, and

1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>they have considerable power over the grown up human world

1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>while not being a part of that world. And of

1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:00.520
<v Speaker 1>course we see a sequence in this where the humans

1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>come in jet planes to conquer Monster Island and Godzilla

1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.880
<v Speaker 1>has to fight them off and destroy some some jet fighters.

1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:08.920
<v Speaker 1>That sort of thing. I think that was maybe a

1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:11.400
<v Speaker 1>scene from a previous picture. I'm not sure. I could

1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:13.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of feel like filler and again checking off the

1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:16.120
<v Speaker 1>boxes of what a monster movie should give you. But

1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it also I think works in this sort of vision

1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>of like what is what is the energy of the

1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:25.280
<v Speaker 1>kaiju and why is it so attractive to children? It's

1:02:25.320 --> 1:02:29.120
<v Speaker 1>like it is big body energy um incarnate, you know,

1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and it is the expression of these emotions that that

1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that there may be only beginning to understand at certain ages.

1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's all correct. And uh, there was another

1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:40.840
<v Speaker 1>angle in which I was thinking about this, and maybe

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:43.240
<v Speaker 1>this is too much of a reach, but it made

1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:45.400
<v Speaker 1>me think about this is almost kind of painting a

1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>picture of a world highlighting the difference between like the

1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:51.960
<v Speaker 1>gods of children and the gods of adults, which is

1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:58.280
<v Speaker 1>where many adults might literally believe that the gods exist

1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but don't take their lessons in their meaning to heart. Meanwhile,

1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you can have children who can treat known fictional entities

1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like the monsters of god Zilla like gods, and even

1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>though they don't literally believe they exist, they do take

1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:21.640
<v Speaker 1>their their meaning to heart. And so it's it's almost

1:03:21.640 --> 1:03:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like a question of like adults taking their gods literally

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<v Speaker 1>but not seriously, and children taking their gods seriously but

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<v Speaker 1>not literally. Yeah, I mean it brings me back to

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<v Speaker 1>another thing I think we've discussed in the show before,

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<v Speaker 1>like this this space for mythology in our our modern viewpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't think the world needs to be just

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<v Speaker 1>truth and fiction, that it needs to be just um,

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<v Speaker 1>the real and the unreal. Uh, you know, the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between skeptical and fundamentalist viewpoints, Like I feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be a room for mythology and under that

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<v Speaker 1>like a very loose version of mythology, which you have

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<v Speaker 1>room for actual myths that have cultural resonance, but also

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<v Speaker 1>fictional things things like Godzilla, things like Star Wars, um

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<v Speaker 1>or any any bit of of media or imagination that

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<v Speaker 1>ends up becoming meaningful to somebody. Yes, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should take each Euro's attitude to heart right because he

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<v Speaker 1>can find absolutely raw core meaningfulness in his in his

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<v Speaker 1>mythology without it being in fact true that Manila is

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<v Speaker 1>a physical monster that exists in the world. Yea, though

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to my question from earlier, I still don't

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure whether the film is saying that he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a character in a movie in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>the film, or whether he was real. It's not quite clear.

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<v Speaker 1>But assuming it's the former, that it's a character in

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<v Speaker 1>a movie, yeah, yeah, I like the ambiguity though in

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<v Speaker 1>a way it works well with this kind of children's

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<v Speaker 1>viewpoint of of the world, a world in which yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe maybe they are real. Maybe maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they are It doesn't matter at the end because they

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<v Speaker 1>really to him. So this was a really fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we we did this one. I always have

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of hesitation with kaiju movies, just because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to spend a lot of time on

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<v Speaker 1>one that is just a monster suit film, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many. There are a lot of great monster suit films,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've gotta have something else going on in them

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<v Speaker 1>to really be to to to really be worth talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this film definitely had had other things going

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<v Speaker 1>for it besides some awesome monster battles. Well, I take

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<v Speaker 1>that back. I would say the monster battles are awesome

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<v Speaker 1>in this picture. Don't watch this one just for the

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<v Speaker 1>monster battles, but it provides a nice balance of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, well I agree, But I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>might feel different. Maybe I'm just more gung ho about

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<v Speaker 1>any any great big monster beat down. I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Godzilla was ever in real danger in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I always knew he had this one handled. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just Godzilla's battle. It was also Godzilla's son's battle.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, there's a different, different dynamic going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, we're to go ahead and close this

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<v Speaker 1>one out, but we'd love to hear from everyone out there,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have thoughts on all Monsters Attack, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have other favorite Kaiju movies that you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest for the future on Weird House Cinema, or just

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<v Speaker 1>discussed in general. You know, we we read listener mail

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<v Speaker 1>on usually on our Listener Mail episodes on Mondays. In

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff to blow your mind podcast feed, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>having to discuss all of that there. Reminder that we're

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<v Speaker 1>primarily a science podcast with Core episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays,

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<v Speaker 1>Monster Factor Artifact episode on Wednesdays, and then on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>We set aside most serious concerns to just talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a weird film on Weird House Cinema. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see a list of all the films we've

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<v Speaker 1>done before, we can go to a couple of places.

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<v Speaker 1>I blog about all these movies. At Samuta music dot

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<v Speaker 1>com there's just a personal blog, but I maintain that

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<v Speaker 1>just mostly weird House stuff these days. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to letterbox dot com, it's l E T

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<v Speaker 1>T E R B l x D dot com. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a cool website where you can chronicle your own

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<v Speaker 1>cinematic explorations and make lists and so forth. At Mad Reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an account there. Our account is weird House

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a list there that has all the

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<v Speaker 1>movies that we've discussed in order, and occasionally you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a glimpse ahead at what is about to come up

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Huch thanks to our audio producer J. J. Pauseway.

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