1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Coast a and Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: podcasts of the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: for Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Schamplain, Well, welcome 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premier Networks, 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi, I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved ones have 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife Today, I'm excited to share with you 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the wonderful work of Dr Mark Pitts Stick, who is 18 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: director and one of the co founders of the Soul 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Phone Foundation. Dr Mark has over forty five years experience 20 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: and training in hospitals, pastoral counseling, mental health centers, and 21 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: private practice. He is the author of several books, including 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: soul Proof, Compelling Evidence that no one really dies. You 23 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: can find out more at his website soul Proof dot com. 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Dr Mark Pittstick Welcome, so glad you're here. Thank you, Sandra. 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. Well Mark. I know it's been a 26 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: couple of years since I first interviewed you on my 27 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: first show, We Don't Die Radio, and I know a 28 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: lot has happened with the soul Phone. But before we 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: get into that, I'm wondering if you could go through 30 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: again a little bit about your history and about soul Proof. Sure. Um, 31 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: how I got involved in all this, I think I 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: was born to do it. I think it is my mission. Uh. 33 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Some evidence for that. When I was six years old, 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: my parents were showing me a beautiful son set and 35 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I told him it reminded me of God. And they 36 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: only told me that twenty years later when I was 37 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: in theology school. And over the years, I've had four 38 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: different mediums or people could see energy tell me that 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm not the usual kind of soul that comes to 40 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: a place like Earth and have these great teaching missions. 41 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: Why I can believe it because throughout my life I 42 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: felt like a stranger, and a strange land actually had 43 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to learn how to fit in and be a good human. Um. 44 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: I would be watching football when I was twelve years old, 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: for example, with my grandpa and uncle's and dad and 46 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: so on, and and be thinking, gosh, you know, if 47 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: we just took a percentage of the money and time 48 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: and energy to put on this game to feed the poor, 49 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: think how we would would advancements we would make. So 50 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: not your usual little guy. UM started working in hospitals 51 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: when I was nineteen as respitory therapists. As I worked 52 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: my way through premed theology, clinical psych etcetera, and was 53 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: around lots of death and dying and quickly was trained 54 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: to do resuscitated procedures, long intubation, arterial blood guess punctures, etcetera. 55 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: So by age twenty, was almost every weekend around one 56 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: or more people as they died, including little children, and 57 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: it drove me to my knees. My Lutheran upbringing, you know, 58 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: taught me that God was all knowing, all loving, all caring, 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: and and so it took me a long time to 60 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: figure out how that can be true, and you had 61 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: all the suffering that we see going on about this. 62 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Fast forward thirty some years, you know, marriage and kids 63 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: and holistic practice, et cetera, a life happening and my 64 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: book so approved the docum Married film met Dr Schwartz 65 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: and Dr Schwartz and I obviously were kindred spirits, very 66 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: clear that we had a similar mission and um we 67 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: He asked me to start working with him in two 68 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen to be the spokesperson four the Soul 69 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Phone and project. Because he's so immersed in the research 70 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: and development. You bring up Dr Gary Schwartz. I have 71 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: seen him just a couple of times speak. Do you 72 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: want to just talk a little bit about who he 73 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: is and how you guys got connected. Sure, he's um. 74 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: First of all, he had two near death experiences when 75 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: he was a little child, one age one and one 76 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: at age eight, and he never forgot them. You know, 77 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: he had the typical the white light, the deep piece. 78 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: It was the most love that he had ever felt 79 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: in his life. It was curious for him because he 80 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: was brought up in a um atheistic Jewish family and 81 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: it was all sciences. Dad went to Columbia chemist so 82 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: it was all assist, assist, dust to dust, and that's 83 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: pretty much what he believed as he marched through the 84 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: top schools Cornell, Masters and PhD at Harvard, Professor at Harvard, 85 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: tenured professor at Yale. Excuse me, A lot of people 86 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: don't know, but Dr Schwartz has been instrumental in huge 87 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: projects over the years. He was one of a handful 88 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: of people who founded behavioral medicine in the seventies. I 89 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: had no idea. Yeah, that alone is huge. Yeah, I know. 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: It seems like every couple of months I find out 91 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: something new about Oh. Yes, I was involved in the 92 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: pioneering of this field. And anyway, he's he's the most 93 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: amazing genius but also caring, curious. He's just an incredible person. 94 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: We have become soul brothers. In fact, he made me 95 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: promise that we will continue to work together after we 96 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: pass on. So I guess we have to no choice. 97 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: You have no choice, of course you will. Yeah. He's 98 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: seventy five years old, and um he went to the 99 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: University of Arizona so that he could start doing more, 100 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: even more cutting edge edge research and in this case 101 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: looking at the survival of consciousness. Uh, Yale and Harvard 102 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: are wonderful institutions but more on the conservative side, and 103 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: University of ariazonly being more liberal. Uh. And he started 104 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: at research with mediums about twenty he knew from experience. 105 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: In fact, he even took courses to find out how 106 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: some mediums cheat or you know, just a very mediocre 107 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: but he was convinced that at least some mediums had 108 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: verifiable abilities, and as describing his book, the Afterlife Experiments 109 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: did double even triple blind studies, totally controlled research with 110 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: people like John Edward and George Anderson and others, and 111 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: found it indeed, some of them had very verifiable abilities, 112 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: hit rates around eight s versus and by the control group. 113 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: So that piqued his curiosity, and he during that time 114 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: launched the dream of creating technology to allow spirit of communication. 115 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: And he was aware of EV E. P and I T. 116 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: C in various approaches that may or may not work, 117 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: may or may not be intelligible. He wanted to create 118 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: technology as reliable as a cell phone that was night 119 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: work of the time, very clear, whether it was audio 120 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: or video, et cetera, and set out about that. Ten 121 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: of the top mediums started working with him and they 122 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: would independently come up with information. They would just pat 123 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: and they're saying, you know, Albert Einstein keeps coming to 124 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: me and saying, I'm supposed to contact you, Dr Schwartz 125 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: and pass on this bit of information. And it's it's 126 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: such a wonderful story because sometimes these are highly technical terms, 127 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: electrical engineering terms, for example, and the medium will say, 128 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know if this is a word, but 129 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm supposed to pass it on you. And Gari 130 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: say it's exactly what I need to hear right now. 131 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: That I was, and that's my sign. And especially when 132 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: this kind of information came through independently by multiple mediums identically, 133 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: it was a big help. So I say, Dr Schwartz 134 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: gets his information from four sources. First of all his 135 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: amazing genius mind. Secondly from these evidential mediums. Third, from 136 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: his earthly team electrical engineers, software specialists, optical physicists and others. 137 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Being a senior professor at University of Arizona, he is 138 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: able to use grad students. I met some of them, 139 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: especially from India and China. They are just such geniuses. Um. 140 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: And then fourth, what we call the eight Team, a 141 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: group of quote deceased luminaries what we call post material luminaries, 142 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: who have been helping him, and I name some of them, 143 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein, David Boom, Thomas Edison, Nicola Tesla and others. 144 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: This is so great and wild and fantastic. And I 145 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: know there's been a lot of people in the past 146 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: couple of years who have asked me what's the latest 147 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: on the soul phone. What's the latest on the soul phone? 148 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: And before we get into the latest on the soul Phone, 149 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I think maybe we had talked about this the last 150 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: time we spoke. But I'm just reminded of those two 151 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: brothers that had a dream of creating a flying machine, 152 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Wilbur and Orville, and how back in the day people 153 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: thought they were crazy, It's never gonna work, you know, 154 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: all of those things, and these were some obviously the 155 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: founding fathers of the aircraft. Every time we I take off, Mark, 156 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, thank you Wilbur and Orville for having a dream. 157 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: And now we just take it for granted. So wherever 158 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: we're at on planet Earth with the team and the 159 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: soul Phone, you know, I believe, beyond the shadow of 160 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: a doubt that it's too far away, that we will 161 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: be able to connect with our loved ones and just 162 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: the convenience of our handheld device. But you know, don't 163 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: listen to the little voice that says things are impossible, 164 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: because look at the things we take for granted now. 165 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: And even you mentioned Edison the lightbulb. Many people laughed 166 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: at him and he failed a thousand times, and now 167 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: look look what we have. So with that, just for 168 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: all of us to be excited, you know, really be 169 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: excited and what what's probably happening and what's possible in 170 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: the future. So that being said, what's the latest, or 171 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: what's happening or what is the soul phone? We can 172 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: even start with that. You're right, brothers. Metaphor is an 173 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: apt one. We've surged into some of the writings by 174 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: Orville and Welber, and they wrote after there, I think 175 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: it was nineteen o eight. Their first flight only lasted 176 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: twelve seconds and crashed. But one of them wrote, for 177 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: those five of us who were there on that day, 178 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: we knew that human flight was possible. And likewise with 179 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: the soul phone, we now know and I'll get in 180 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: details in a moment that first of all, this this 181 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: work has shown scientifically that life continues after bodily death, 182 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: and secondly that these people who have dropped their body 183 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: can communicate. Now, is it a commercializable device you can 184 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: go to your storm by not yet. Alexander Graham Bell 185 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: patented the telephone in eighteen seventies six. Well, in nineteen sixty, 186 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: I was seven years old. We had a party line. 187 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: It was a four number dial. I'm getting on the 188 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: phone trying to call somebody. You know, You're like, you know, 189 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: clear your throat, so whoever is on the line would 190 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: hang up. And it wasn't until um the late nineteen 191 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: nineties that the first mobile phone existed. It was huge. Mark. 192 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: We have to take a quick break, but when we 193 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: come back, we'll find out more from you about the 194 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: soul Phone. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 195 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m 196 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 197 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain and we're here with Dr Mark Pitstick, 198 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: co founder of the Soul Phone Foundation. Mark, what can 199 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: you tell us about the soul Phone? First of all, 200 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: the soul fun is an umbrella term for for anticipated 201 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: devices and the first is working very well, and that's 202 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: called the soul switch. That's a binary indicator. I being 203 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: allows yes no answers from those in spirit, and the 204 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: soul switch um is not perceived as being a commercializable device, 205 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, kind of be like a Uiji board, only 206 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: very accurate. But we don't really anticipate going down that 207 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: road with the souls, which again we have been able 208 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: to show that with multiple, multiple studies, thousands of trials, 209 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: highly statistical significance, data analysis, et cetera, be able to 210 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: show scientifically that the presence of spirit, that they are 211 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: present and further their communication. For example, one way is 212 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: using what we call the personal identification tests. Uh, and 213 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I say we because I've actually been involved in a 214 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of this research over the last three years. And 215 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: the personal identification tests being a series of questions. So 216 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: for example, UM, if I were in spirit, the question 217 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: would be to me as your first name Mark, Yes, 218 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: as your us named Champlain. Answers should be no, you know, 219 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: did we have a dog named Snoopy while I was 220 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: a kid? Yes, and so on, a series of questions 221 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: that could be verified which give a high degree of 222 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: certainty that who we are dealing with secondly, a what's 223 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: called the cognitive understanding test, and this is done for 224 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: the most part with a series of slides. And keep 225 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: in mind this has all been done UH in different centers, replicated, 226 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: all computer automated. Because Dr Schortz, being such a serious scientists, 227 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: wanted to address any conceivable criticism. For example, UH, the 228 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: observer bias, that is, the effect of the experiment or's 229 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: consciousness on the outcome. So some of the experiments have 230 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: been run in the middle of the night, the time 231 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: selected by a random time generator. UH. The computer starts 232 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the experiment in the middle of the night when everybody 233 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: is asleep, so no one's consciousness would know when it 234 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: started or what's going on, and yet the result to 235 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: the same as when we're physically present in the room. 236 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: So there's cognitive understanding test and shows a series of slides, 237 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: for example using photos of the well, let's say a 238 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: mother wants to um interact with our child who's past. 239 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: Slides would be loaded up and the question would be 240 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: was this us together when you were a little boy, 241 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: And if it was, the answer should be yes. But 242 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: if the photo was of strangers, the answer should be no. 243 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: Then another one is this a picture of our dog 244 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: we had, you know, when we lived in a certain city. 245 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Is this a birthday party that occurred 246 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: before you changed world? Yes or no? So again, a 247 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: way to be sure who you're dealing with, to be 248 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: sure that they are alive and well and really most touching, 249 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: to know that they are still present, they still want 250 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: to be part of the family, They're aware of what's 251 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: going on, they're still in contact. Mark. How do they 252 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: flip the switch? I'm sure they have to manipulate energy, 253 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: and I can't imagine it's an actual switch like a 254 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: light switch, But can I assume they use their energy 255 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: to somehow get the information the yes or the no 256 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: in the computer. Yeah, they're actually actually two different switches 257 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: right now, and we're kind of like, yeah, well, kind 258 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: of like you. There are two race cars that are 259 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: leading the race, and so we're betting on both of 260 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: them to see which one turns out to be the 261 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: very best. But in both cases, yes, uh, the post 262 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: material persons, the people who have passed on, are able 263 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: to signal their presence. So you know, whether you could 264 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: say it's their energy or they're touching with their hands 265 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: depends on where you know whether you're looking at the 266 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: quantum physics, are things particles formed or waves pure energy. 267 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: But the experiments so far indicate that they can be 268 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: just as physical as we. They have physicality as measured 269 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: by uh, the diminished time of photons passing from one 270 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: area to another when they put their hand through it, 271 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: the motion detected. When they put their hand in an 272 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: enclosed area and air motion is detected. So that's why 273 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: we say post material persons. They're they're not just airy, 274 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: gauzy balls of energy. They can be, but they also 275 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: going to be quite physical, and from what we've gathered, 276 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: enjoy doing that sometimes, I would think so definitely. And 277 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: even some of the great mediums that we both know 278 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: and love that work on behalf of the those in 279 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: the spirit world. There there's still people. They are still people, 280 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: They have their personalities into some of the information is that, uh, 281 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: they very easily can buy locate and we need a 282 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: different word because in one conversation with Edison, Einstein and 283 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Tesla we were like auctioneers, can you indeed um enjoy 284 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: simultaneous realities? And they said, oh yes, he said so 285 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: more than one place at the time. Yeah, ten, yeah, twenty, yeah, 286 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: and at that point Gary said, now, wait a minute, 287 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: are you saying to me that you can be in 288 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: twenty different places at the same time having different interactions. Yes, 289 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: And then it turned out they said even fifty and 290 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: maybe a hundred sometimes, So how cool would that be? 291 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, one of the I guess take 292 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: home messages of that is when people try to interact 293 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: with our loved ones who have passed on, it's not 294 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: like we're interfering with their other business year. They can 295 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: do more than one thing at a time. That's good news. 296 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: So that's the soul switch, which must be really amazing 297 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: to just even be part of getting those answers. Even 298 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: having a conversation with Edison Einstein and Tesla like, no 299 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: big deal. Wow, what's the next of the four categories? Yeah, 300 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: first of all, the and we say right now, the 301 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: soul switch is a stage two prototype. It works about 302 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: nine percent at the time, eighty to ninety. And we 303 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: say that the other ten or is not that they're 304 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: messing up, it's just the limits of the technology. And 305 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: the next goal is to create the stage three prototype. However, 306 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: that we require full time software programmer, full time let 307 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: to engineer a clean room, probably a two million dollar 308 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: budget to finalize that, and we have a couple of 309 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: people who are instead. We've been talking to UM, but 310 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: if any people have an investment, capabilities and interest contactus. 311 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Dr Schwarz thinks that after the funding is in place 312 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: and the equipment and so on, that will take about 313 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: a year then to have the stage three and that 314 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: will be a practically working device that will then allow 315 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: us to move into the second device, which is called 316 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: the Soul keyboard. So if you look at the keyboard 317 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: in front of you, it's about forty three switches and 318 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: UM for example, if you push the L key, that's 319 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: a yes for the L, the no for everything else. 320 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: And the first Soul switch then can be incorporated into 321 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: a Soul keyboard. Dr Schwartz anticipates will be about four 322 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: ft wide three ft deep, but that will allow then 323 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: texting and typing with those another dimension. Pretty great. Yeah. 324 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: By the way, we UM and we had a session 325 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: through one of the top mediums being able to ask 326 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: questions of people like Tesla and Einstein and UM. I asked, 327 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: when we have a device that's and the sole keyboard 328 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: would function for this that allows sufficient quantity and quality 329 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: of information to pass through. Would you all be willing 330 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: to give webinars addressing our toughest challenge and biggest problems 331 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: And the medium started laughing and she said, they're pushing 332 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: each other out of the way to get first in line. 333 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: So indications are there's a huge amount of interest on 334 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: quote the other side for helping us here on our planets. 335 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: So keep hope alive people. The third device then after 336 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: we have that sole keyboard, and by the way, that 337 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: will allow so much more information from the A team 338 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: and really expedite creation of the other devices. The third 339 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: then being called Soul Voice and then Soul video like teleconferencing, 340 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: whether it's zooms, guy face time, being able to see 341 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: and here very exciting. I'm just envisioning that world and 342 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: probably the not too too distant future that that's possible. 343 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: It is, and just the just the knowledge that it's 344 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: on the way has helped many people. I've actually had 345 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: three emails from people who were suicide and they said, 346 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, I had just about had been living on 347 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Earth because you know how it's difficult for people are 348 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: partially awakened with all the craziness that goes on our planet. 349 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: And they said I was really considering moving on, and 350 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: then I heard about the Soul Phone, and I thought, 351 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want to stick around and see how 352 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: this ends up. Uh. And then of course numerous Bree 353 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: parents who are journeying towards being Shining Light parents are 354 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: so very excited that in addition to visitations with mediums 355 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: and so on, they will um at some point be 356 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: able to visit in a much more developed way. I 357 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: think it's really great. And just how you brought up 358 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: the cell phone and the mobile phone back in the day, 359 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: it was this big, heavy, clunky thing, and now we 360 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: just hold this device in our hand that we can 361 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: get almost all the information in the universe in less 362 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: than a second. And it takes it takes money. I 363 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of us working in the afterlife field 364 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: just do this out of our own funds. And I 365 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: know there's been donations and things to the Soul Phone Foundation, 366 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: but it it takes that, and it takes equipment, and 367 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: it takes these computers and I can't even imagine the 368 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: device with photons and all those kind of things. But 369 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: and it also takes these minds that can get on 370 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: board to help with it. I think probably when the 371 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: cell phone first came out and more and more minds 372 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: got involved. We saw the growth exponentially to what we 373 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: have today in our hands. I can't even imagine what 374 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: the future holds and that kind of technology. After the break, 375 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk more with Dr Mark pitts Stick. You're listening 376 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio 377 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. Welcome 378 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and 379 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: we're with Dr Mark pitts Stick, co founder and director 380 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: of the Soul Phone Own Mark. I know for myself 381 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: being involved in learning about the afterlife and sharing it, 382 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: the difference it can make in one life is just tremendous. 383 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: With grief, we often can hit rock bottom and just 384 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: to hear some words that can help us believe in 385 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: the afterlife can actually give people life again. Yes, and 386 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: especially you know, the proving that there's an afterlife has 387 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: been near and dear to my heart for many years 388 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: since I was working with these dying people as a youth. 389 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: But now for the first time we can say we 390 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: now have definitive scientific demonstration that life continues after bodily death, 391 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: which we can never state legitimately before, but now we 392 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: can based on the data. Where would you recommend people 393 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: go mark online? Would it be cell phone dot org 394 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: to find out more because obviously in an hour interview 395 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: you're not going to give all the details and be 396 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: able to do that. But for people that want to 397 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: explore more, I know you also have Greater Reality Living 398 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: and soul Proof. Yeah, soul phone dot Oregon is a 399 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: great way to start to learn more about it, to 400 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: see the updates and so on. But Dr SCHWARTZS and 401 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: I realized three years ago that it would be advantageous 402 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: to have first a book but also groups to help 403 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: people adjust to this paradigm shift. I mean, it's huge 404 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: um to to really know for sure. In other words, 405 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: it's one thing where religions talk about. It's another thing 406 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: we're like, well, you know, evidence indicates, but but now 407 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: to say scientific demonstration of it. And so we wrote 408 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: the book Greater Reality Living, in which we lay out 409 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: all the evidence clinical, scientific and based on firsthand experience, 410 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: and then what we call the lives formula and just 411 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: briefly lives as an acronym for l learn the evidence 412 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: that clearly shows what forever being. I internalize this great news, 413 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: so people don't just have a dry intellectual knowing that 414 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: phades when time gets tough, but a deep, internalized knowing 415 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: that serves them. It's like building your house on grant staff, 416 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: shifting sand that serves them when they're dying, when a 417 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: loved one passes, etcetera. The V stands for vitalize yourself holistically, 418 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: so that people have the energy, the balance, the vitality 419 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: they need to brighten the corner where they are to 420 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: demonstrate this. Okay, you know, I hope it says when 421 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: we know better, we do better. All right, When we 422 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: know that we're eternal beings in the world, interconnected, how 423 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: does shape the way we interact with each other, treat 424 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: one another, and so on. Mobilized do what we can 425 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: to make the world a better place. The E stands 426 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: for enjoy the many benefits, like knowing there's nothing the fear. Yeah, 427 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: we dropped the body, but that turns out to be 428 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: much less than one percent of who and what we are. 429 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: And the same way, we couldn't lose loved ones if 430 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: we tried. You know, we are sold so inextracly interconnected 431 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: people and pets and then finally, the S stands for 432 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: serve others and make the world a better place. So 433 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: we wanted to share this formula. And then each chapter 434 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: has lots of information, strategies resources so people can use them. 435 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: We've also started Greater Reality Living groups. I think we 436 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: have three or four functioning now in the US, and 437 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: can't I mean, we just got started the first of 438 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: the year, will start online Greater Reality Living groups because 439 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: we had heard from so many people of the years, 440 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: there's no one I can talk to you about these things. 441 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: You know, if if I told my family and friends, 442 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: they think I was kookie, well guess what where we 443 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: must all be kookie because it turns out so many 444 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: US have had after death communications or various spiritually transformative experiences. 445 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: So these Greater Reality Living groups then being safe places, inclusive, respectful, diversity, 446 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: and so on where people can learn this information. We 447 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: have videos and facilitator managers. We have a whole team 448 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: of twenty eight people working for the Foundation project managers 449 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: who are forming these groups where people can learn this information, 450 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: discuss it, share their own personal experiences, and then look 451 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: at how can they take action in their community to 452 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: make things better, really good I know from myself my 453 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: life has improved. I don't even know how many time 454 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: is over embracing the fact that we don't die. It's 455 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: also our life is for a purpose. I've gone after 456 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: some dreams that have been forgotten about. I've been courageous 457 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: in the face of fear, things I probably wouldn't have 458 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: normally done. But embracing this Greater Reality living as you 459 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: talk about it, is something that I'm living my best 460 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: life and it all stemmed out of, you know, some 461 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: of the worst times that have happened, death of my dad, 462 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: death of my grandmother. And it's really exciting to me 463 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: that you know, have Greater Reality groups and I'd love 464 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: to be your partner with sharing that and Greater Reality 465 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: living with the world. Thank you for that, Sandra m. Yes, 466 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: people can visit Greater Reality Living dot com. There links 467 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: and tabs on starting a group, joining a group. It's 468 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: all very well set up, as you say, when we 469 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: really know who we are, it's a game change. And 470 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean life is perfect. For example, you know, 471 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: when I love one passes on, it doesn't take away 472 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: all the sadness or pain, but it definitely lightens it. 473 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: It's the difference between saying goodbye to someone knowing that 474 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: we'll never see them again versus saying see you later. 475 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: M hm, And it's a sea later. It's like they 476 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: went on a vacation first, and you're going to meet 477 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: them at the destination, but you've got some work to 478 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: do before you get on the airplane. Yes, that's what 479 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: I say. How can someone get a copy of the 480 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: Greater Reality Living Book? Well, if they google it. It's 481 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: available through Amazon, of course, is and everything everything. They 482 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: can buy it off my website, soul proof dot com, 483 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: as well as while I'm mentioning soul proof dot com, 484 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I just hit. Over the years, I have created articles 485 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: with holistic solutions for the biggest questions and problems people 486 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: encounter when a loved one passes, when a loved one 487 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: dies by side, and actually I should clean up my language, 488 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: like the titles we say when, um, the body of 489 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: a loved one dies by suicide, because we want to 490 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: be very clear your loved one didn't die, just the 491 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: body did. And that's such a huge distinction, and we 492 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: need to upgrade our language so that our brains really 493 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: understand that. An article for people who are sensive and 494 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: empathic which is very common, holistic health information, uh, etcetera, etcetera, 495 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: all sorts of techniques. So those are all free articles 496 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: at soul proof dot com. Also, numerous radio shows I 497 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: had over the years with people like Wayne Dyer, Brian Wise, 498 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Raymond Moody, Michael Newton, I needed more, Johnny Carolin, Mace 499 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: May just top names discussing these various topics. You know, 500 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: who am I, why am I here? What happens after 501 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: I die? How can I identifying my mission? Etcetera. So 502 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: these are all free resources at soul proof dot com 503 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: for your listeners. Thank you for that. It's great to 504 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: be able to share because there's always so much more. 505 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: And some of those folks that you talked about I 506 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: may never interview and to have that those conversations out 507 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: there because I wasn't having a bad day before you 508 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: and I got on this conversation, Mark, but I wouldn't 509 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: say it was a great day, but something inside me said, 510 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: after this conversation, it'll be a great day. So we 511 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: all need resources to plug us back into this greater 512 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: reality and remind us of who we are. So thank 513 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: you for having all those resources at soul proof dot com. 514 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: My pleasure. And it gets better than that. The beginning 515 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: of next year, we will start what are called SEED events, 516 00:34:54,120 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Seed being an acronym for cell phone education, ethics and demonstration. 517 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: Uh and and just a side note, the ethics part 518 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: comes in. Um, we're very cognizant of the potential downsides 519 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: of this communication technology. Uh. You know, when the cell 520 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: phone and computer industry started, I don't know how much 521 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: attention they paid to the potential abuses. And now, for example, 522 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: people getting hacked, identity theft, and so on through these 523 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: technological devices. Well, Dr Schwartz, being the very caring person 524 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: he is, he said, I can't open Pandora's box without 525 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: prudent safeguards in place, And so we want people to 526 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: be clear from the beginning. And even when the devices 527 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: are ready, they won't It won't be like something you 528 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: can go buy the store. They will be at centers, 529 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: initially cell phone centers where people can use the technology, 530 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: but where they will be safeguards and place protection and 531 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: so on. Also, you know counseling. I mean you can't 532 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: imagine if a person after a meaningful visit, that's gonna 533 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: be life changing for them. So they may need some 534 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: to talk for a while on some counseling. So we're 535 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: thinking all this through. So that's the ethics part the 536 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: seat events. Then we'll start and give these demonstrations because 537 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: as the saying goes, seeing is believing. This will be 538 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: a full day event. First, um Dr Schwartz will present. 539 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: Now he and his wife, Ronda, who's one of the 540 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: evidential mediums, will be presenting by zoom you know, they'll 541 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: they will be ensconced in the research at the University 542 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: of Arizona. So then I gonna travel around the country. 543 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: But first Dr Schwartz will present on the science behind 544 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: all this, all this on the soul phone. Rhonda being 545 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: a UH, she calls herself a research medium. In other way, 546 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: she doesn't do readings for people. All of her work 547 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: is with the A team bringing through information for the 548 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: various researchers. She will speak about evidential mediums, what those are, 549 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: and then also about the A team, some of the 550 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: background news and some of what they bring through UH 551 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: snippets that she has gathered over the years about what 552 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: their life is like. Now, Mark, I hate to interrupt you, 553 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: but we need to take a short break and when 554 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll ask your part in all of 555 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: these seed events and more of the future for the 556 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: Soul Phone. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 557 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m 558 00:37:47,040 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 559 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm Sander Champlain and we are with Dr Mark Pitstick 560 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: talking about the upcoming demonstrations of the Soul Phone Project. Mark, 561 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: at these demonstrations, what will you be presenting? I will 562 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: present about the greater reality living, that is, how might 563 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: we live differently once we know without a doubt that 564 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: we're eternal beings and the various benefits of all of this. 565 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: Then we will move into the demonstration mode, first of all, 566 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: showing the equipment for the first time ever to the 567 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: public and showing first what does it look like when 568 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: there's baseline Because all of all these experiments have what 569 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: we call no participant controls. Now as we we need 570 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: to have control groups. What happens when no one's touching 571 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: the equipment, when no one in the room human or 572 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: post material. And it's pretty much like a flatline e 573 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: k g. You know, the data hovers along the X 574 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: axis pretty much not much. I mean, it's gonna pick 575 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 1: up some electromagnetic fields from for lescent lights of one 576 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: tin outlets, what we call background noise. Then and we 577 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: will have an attendee from the audience come up and 578 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: touch whichever device we're using and show what is the 579 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: impact of their physicality their energy, and it's huge for humans. 580 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: That will be visible light and it will be a 581 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: big overhead screen so you can see the change in 582 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: the light patterns. Also, graphs are produced instantaneously, huge graphs 583 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: showing the difference between a yes and no answer. And 584 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: then the statistical significance is computed again instantaneously. The software 585 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: for all this is up rated monthly, and it's just 586 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's magical. Then and one of the eight 587 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: team will come on and touch the devices and then 588 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: we'll see the effect of their input. Now, this is 589 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. A few years ago, Dr Schwartz said, 590 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: on an average, a post material person's signal was about 591 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: one thousand that of a human. Yeah, which is very small, 592 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: but it was still very highly statistical significant versus a 593 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: baseline control. Well then about a year ago he started saying, 594 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: they're averaging one now, you know, which is ten times 595 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: better than what they were doing in our last round 596 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: of experiments, which took about two months to run thousands 597 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: and thousands of sessions. Their energy was seven percent of 598 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: what a humans is well, and that's seven times what 599 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: they were doing when it was one album hundred. But 600 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: the part that really blows my mind is about a 601 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: month ago, a Hollywood videography team came to the lab 602 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: at Tucson to prepare for a series of documentaries about 603 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: the Soul Phone, and the producer was direct near thinking 604 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: that videographer is taking two and a half hours of footage. 605 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: The A team member for that is a woman named 606 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: Susie Smith who passed in two thousand one, but she 607 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: and Gary were friends before she passed on. Susie wrote 608 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: thirty books on psychic medium and afterlife topics. Susie Smith 609 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: s u s why she lived at almost aged ninety. 610 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: She was wheelchair bound for the last couple of decades 611 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: of her life, and before she passed, one of her 612 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: things was I can't wait to die so I can 613 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: come back and prove no one really dies. That you 614 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: made heard a saying like that before. Well, so she 615 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: was chosen to be the A team member for this 616 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: demonstration that was being professionally filmed. She knocked it out. 617 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: The part she achieved forty percent of what the human 618 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: effect is forty two fists of what a human does. 619 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: So we've gone from one thousand to fort Garry said, yeah, no, 620 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: wonder you know, she's been waiting all these years, about 621 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty years to show us that no one really dies. 622 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 1: She just did it, you know with whatever they're saying 623 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: in spades, M that's incredible. Yeah. So those will be 624 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: the seat events and then there'll be a wrap up. 625 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: Dr Schwartz come back in and answer questions. We'll talk 626 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: the impact of this. So again we'll be doing is 627 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: on weekends. I have a team of event planners who 628 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: will be helping set them up, and those public demonstrations 629 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: then should really launch this media being present, people really 630 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: getting and we're so excited about between that the greater 631 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: reality living groups seeing change in our lifetime metamorphosis as 632 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: more and more people. We call them the per centers, 633 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: and I derived that term from the work of Michael Newton, 634 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: founder of Life Between Lives therapy. Dr Newton and his 635 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: he has about twenty five trained therapists have conducted thirty 636 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: five thousand life between live sessions and something like twenty 637 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: three countries. So they've mapped out very well that on average, 638 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: about eight of people on Earth or what they call 639 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: beginner souls. And this is there's no judgment involved, it's 640 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: just how many times they've been around the block and 641 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,479 Speaker 1: how much they've learned. Another, well over thirteen percent would 642 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: be considered intermediate souls, and then two to three percent advanced. 643 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: And so I'm fairly good at math. I put together 644 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: those intermediate advanced numbers and came up with fifteen percent. 645 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: So we're not going to reach everyone. You know, as 646 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: as we are talking before we started the interview, there 647 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: are skeptics. They are closed minded people. There are people 648 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: who are imbalanced. There people who are so in so 649 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: much pain that they lash out and criticize. And we 650 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: know we're not going to touch everyone, and we know 651 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna have the skeptics. But if even a half 652 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: of the fifteen percenters would mobilize and brighten the corner 653 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: where they are, do what they came here to do, 654 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: share their greatest gifts, the changes in our world would 655 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: be unbelievably powerful and quick. Not to mention all the 656 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: impact from the many near death experiences, the many brief 657 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: parents who are choosing to try 's mute their pain 658 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: into service. Um, we have some really exciting changes starting 659 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: to kick in now, it's just tremendous. How do we 660 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: find out about the upcoming seat events? But if we 661 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: find that on soul phone dot org, Yes, and also 662 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: Greater Reality Living dot com. And also people who sign 663 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: up for our free newsletters, whether it's the soul proof 664 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: dot com newsletter or the one from the two websites 665 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: we just mentioned, will receive updates about when these events are. 666 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: We're five months out. The time will go by very 667 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: quickly and there'll be more and more mark we just 668 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: have a few minutes left, or there anything else you'd 669 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: like to share, or something I should have asked you 670 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: that I haven't, or if you just want to reach 671 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: in for some words of inspiration, sure well, I'd like 672 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 1: to share something that happened in the February two thousand 673 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: and eighteen. I was at the home of Dr Gary 674 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: and Rodney Schwartz. They were gifting me a session with 675 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: the A team, the ability to ask a number of 676 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: questions of the A team, and it was the first 677 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: time they had been asked anything that was of a 678 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: non technological nature. So I had thought for weeks. Oh 679 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: my god, you know what, what would I ask? Because 680 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: this is the cream of the crop of people who 681 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: lived on Earth. Well, my first question was how can 682 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: we create world peace? How can we have harmony our planet? 683 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: And Albert answered through Ron, and this is discussed in 684 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: our book Greater Raality Living. He said, wow, that's a 685 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: tough one. I noticed that things are really no better 686 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: than when I was on Earth. The causes of disharmony 687 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: and the solutions needed for them are many. And he said, 688 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: oh I can tell you is listen to your inner 689 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: hearts calling do what you're most passionate about, and know 690 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: that that's your contribution. Frankly, I was a little disappointed. 691 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, you're Albert Einstein, for God's sake. Plus 692 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: you've dropped your filtration, you know, limiting filtration of your brain. 693 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: I thought you'd come up with something more than that. 694 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: But I moved on to my second one. I said, okay, uh, 695 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: Dr Schwartz and are getting ready to publish our book, 696 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: Greater Reality Living. Is there anything we've missed in it? 697 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: And Ron said, well, Mark, you have to realize that 698 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: even though they're seeing more the greater reality than we 699 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: on Earth. They're not omniscient. And we haven't talked to 700 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: them about the book. You know, we're always talking about 701 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: soul phone. Can you just get man over it? So 702 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: I did the life formula what I just mentioned earlier, 703 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: learned the evidence, internalize this great news, vitalize yourself, enjoy 704 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: the benefits, and serve others and make the world a 705 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: better place. And when I went over that brief overview 706 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: of the book, Einstein shouted through, Runda, that's it. You 707 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: just answered your first question. That's great. And it took 708 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: me a moment to realize what was being said. But 709 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: when I did, I had goose bumps on top of 710 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: goose bumps. If I had hair on top of my head, 711 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: it would have been standing straight up. And they said 712 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: what you just went over is sufficient to help change 713 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: the world. They said, you have covered all the bases. 714 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: You just needed to get out there. And David Bom, 715 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: who was a Princeton mathematician and quantum physicist colleague of Einstein, said, run, 716 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: don't walk. Share this with as many people as possible, 717 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: as quickly and boldly as you can. And he said 718 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: and don't be concerned about critics. We had them when 719 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: we were on Earth. You're going to have them definitely. 720 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: Just let their uninformed, unfair attacks run off your back 721 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: like water off a duck's back. And that jazz is 722 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: needless to say that we were on the right track. 723 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: And that's why I really appreciate getting the word out 724 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 1: your listeners about the Greater Reality Living book, the groups, 725 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: the soul Phone technology that can help people's biggest problems 726 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: and also mobilize them too. You said something earlier when 727 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about you had courage when faced with obstacles. 728 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful way you put it. Well. Likewise, 729 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: this knowledge and these groups and this support can be 730 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: the key that triggers people say, Okay, you know what, 731 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake off this feeling of hopelessness, this inertia, 732 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,439 Speaker 1: and I am going to do what I can, even 733 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: if it's a little bit. It's a really good advice. Well, Mark, 734 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being our guest today. Well, 735 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: thank you for all you do and for sharing this 736 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: information with other Sandra, You're welcome, and thank you to 737 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: our listeners. You can check out everything at soul proof 738 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 1: dot com and a reminder to go to we Don't 739 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: dot dot com for so many afterlife things. In all 740 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 1: past episodes, I'm Sandra Champlain. You've been listening to Shades 741 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast 742 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network. Thanks for listening 743 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast Day 744 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: and Paranormal podcast Network. Make sure and check out all 745 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: our shows on the I Heart Radio app or by 746 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: going to I heart radio dot com.