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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe Wisenthal and I'm Tracy Alloway. Tracy, we have
Speaker 2: a special episode of the podcast today which needs very
Speaker 2: little introduction, but we are speaking to the mayor.
Speaker 3: I love our transition to local city reporters.
Speaker 2: It's really fun learning about our city. Mayor Adams, New
Speaker 2: York City, Mayor Adams, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 2: on Odd Lots.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: I think this is my second time this week, or
Speaker 5: was it last week? Today's go to fast, but it's
Speaker 5: way here being at Bloomberg.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I read an article recently from
Speaker 2: the journalist Derek Thompson. Here's talking about the death of
Speaker 2: partying in America. People apparently don't party as much as
Speaker 2: they used to. New York City people still party, but
Speaker 2: you know, there aren't as many twenty four hour clubs
Speaker 2: as there used to be. Apparently there's fewer four am
Speaker 2: liquor licenses, et cetera. You're a man who appreciates night
Speaker 2: life and partying. What happened? Why don't people party as
Speaker 2: much as.
Speaker 5: That's a great question, and first of all is why
Speaker 5: do I appreciate the night life. It's thirty billion dollar industry,
Speaker 5: and we viewed the city often as mayors, we viewed
Speaker 5: it as nine to five, but it's not. When I
Speaker 5: was a police officer, I work overnights, midnights, and when
Speaker 5: I go into a night life a restaurant, I walk
Speaker 5: in the kitchen and I talked to the dishwalpsher, I
Speaker 5: talked to the busboy or girl. Of those are everyday
Speaker 5: working class people. And I knew when I came back
Speaker 5: after COVID, I had to turn our night life around, and.
Speaker 4: We did that. You can't get reservations in the city anymore.
Speaker 5: Broadway had the best twelve months in the history of
Speaker 5: the city. And part of coming back out at night
Speaker 5: is what is our signature New York the city.
Speaker 2: That there's no party crisis.
Speaker 3: No, it still still shuts down earlier than it used
Speaker 3: to know it does.
Speaker 5: And part of the problem, I believe you have far
Speaker 5: too many people on community boys that have been for
Speaker 5: a long time, and they're not connecting the economics with
Speaker 5: the desire really not to have any night life.
Speaker 4: Nightlife is important of the community.
Speaker 5: It is allowed to let off some steam networking, really collaborating. Listen,
Speaker 5: you come to New York, You're going to find your
Speaker 5: mate here because the diversity of this great city.
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask about some other specific policy proposals,
Speaker 3: specifically housing, and you know, I went to your website
Speaker 3: and I saw the sort of summary of your proposals,
Speaker 3: and then I clicked in to learn more and it
Speaker 3: took me to your previous accomplishments under your first term.
Speaker 3: So I'm really curious if you could maybe broaden out
Speaker 3: some of your housing policies, Like what exactly are you
Speaker 3: talking about here?
Speaker 5: Well, first of let's look at the fact that when
Speaker 5: you look at shovels in ground and what we're proposing
Speaker 5: in our rezoning, including the most comprehensive housing reform in
Speaker 5: the history of the city sixty years previously, was the
Speaker 5: first time we really started looking at housing and some
Speaker 5: of the reform. We're going to build more housing in
Speaker 5: one term than the twelve years under Bloombirds the eight
Speaker 5: years under Deblasio combined in one term and twenty five
Speaker 5: billion dollars we put it into our ten year capital plan.
Speaker 5: In addition to that, for the first time in history,
Speaker 5: we are including Nightscha of housing into the plan. So
Speaker 5: we're looking at a couple of different locations. Number One,
Speaker 5: we saw the federal Estate government walk away from Nightscha.
Speaker 5: Nightscha has an eighty eight billion dollar dollar capital problem.
Speaker 5: We had to find new ways of building on Nightsye.
Speaker 5: We did the land trust. Many people tried, We got
Speaker 5: it done. We're also doing the rat programs. Many people
Speaker 5: have attempted to do it. We got it done. The
Speaker 5: amazing project that we are getting ready to do in
Speaker 5: rees House is where we're going to tear down all buildings,
Speaker 5: build new buildings and without zero deplacement of tennants. That's
Speaker 5: how we deal with tonight you issue. Then we realized
Speaker 5: that we want to build more housing. We have to
Speaker 5: build everywhere. It was unbelievable how many elected officials were
Speaker 5: stopping that building fifty nine community boards. Ten of those
Speaker 5: fifty nine were building more affordable housing than forty nine combined.
Speaker 5: So our goal now is to build all over the city.
Speaker 5: And that's what City of Yes was about, a little
Speaker 5: more housing in every community that we could allow residents
Speaker 5: and tendants to stay in the community instead of leaving
Speaker 5: the city. So our goal in the future, as we
Speaker 5: move forward forward, want to build faster, We want to
Speaker 5: build more. Drive by Willis point right now, twenty four
Speaker 5: hundred units of affordable housing. That's THEIRS new soccer stadium
Speaker 5: that's paid private dollars, a new school, new open space,
Speaker 5: and you see the buildings actually going up in the
Speaker 5: same term. So our focus is building more and building everywhere.
Speaker 2: The first time I ever heard about controversy at the
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Street Garden was in twenty eighteen, I think. And
Speaker 2: then now it's twenty twenty five and you've come out
Speaker 2: and you said, okay, let's move on. Let's not continue
Speaker 2: to fight this. But setting aside whether it was it's
Speaker 2: right to use that space for housing or not, like
Speaker 2: setting aside these pictures, why does it take seven years
Speaker 2: or longer to come to answers on these questions?
Speaker 5: Great question, And if you if you do an analysis
Speaker 5: over all the things that we've done, we've land plan
Speaker 5: we landed planes that no one else was able to do.
Speaker 5: When you read all the noise, take all the noise
Speaker 5: out of the administration, and you say, okay, let's look
Speaker 5: at the raw numbers. Like you said, your listeners are sophisticated.
Speaker 5: You look at the raw numbers. We were able to
Speaker 5: land the plane on Governor's Island. We were able to
Speaker 5: land the plane in sunset sunset Paarl, were able to
Speaker 5: land the plane on these difficult tasks. So what did
Speaker 5: we do When we brought in Randy Master as the
Speaker 5: first deputy mayor, he was he looked at it. He says,
Speaker 5: how can we leverage this space? How could we walk
Speaker 5: away with a win?
Speaker 4: We did.
Speaker 5: Elizabeth Street Garden was going to do about one hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty five units of housing. One hundred and twenty units.
Speaker 5: We're going to get six hundred and twenty five units
Speaker 5: of housing.
Speaker 4: And we got.
Speaker 2: Elsewheared after years of fighting about it.
Speaker 5: Yes, this is New York. Let's let's be clear about
Speaker 5: the city. Whatever you try to do, we got eight
Speaker 5: point five million people. We have thirty five million opinions.
Speaker 5: You know you're always going to have New Yorkers no
Speaker 5: matter what you attempt to do. But how do we
Speaker 5: leverage the best for the city. So we took the
Speaker 5: concerns of Elizabeth Street Garden. People were concerned about that.
Speaker 5: They wanted to hold onto the garden, and I said,
Speaker 5: you got to give me a plan that I could
Speaker 5: deal with the number one crisis I have in the city,
Speaker 5: and that is housing, and we were able to leverage
Speaker 5: that space and walk away with over six hundred additional
Speaker 5: units of affordable housing.
Speaker 4: That said win. No matter how you talk about it.
Speaker 3: What's the broad lesson from that experience, Because when we
Speaker 3: were came about nightlife just then, you know it sounds
Speaker 3: like community groups and special interest groups are still an
Speaker 3: impediment or an obstacle to some of the things that
Speaker 3: you seem to want to do. Is there anything you're
Speaker 3: thinking about to maybe like encourage more cooperation, build up
Speaker 3: that city of yes.
Speaker 4: Idea, yes.
Speaker 5: And you know what we witness in the city, particularly
Speaker 5: in our elected officials. Elected officials on Monday they say
Speaker 5: housing is right, but on Tuesday they say not in
Speaker 5: my district.
Speaker 4: We don't want to hear it.
Speaker 5: And if I walked away with anything in the last
Speaker 5: three years and seven months, is that you have to
Speaker 5: ignore the noise. You have to do what's best long
Speaker 5: term for the city. And it's a retrospective appreciation and
Speaker 5: if you do an analysis not only in housing, Look
Speaker 5: how far I was away from where the noise of
Speaker 5: the leadership of Democratic Party when I was talking about
Speaker 5: taking severe mental health illness off our streets. I got
Speaker 5: an unbelievable pushback when I talk about investing in the
Speaker 5: police depart and when others were talking defund the police.
Speaker 5: Everyone was pushing back. And now we see record levels
Speaker 5: of decrease in crime. When I was talking about the
Speaker 5: cannabis fight, that we had to do something about it.
Speaker 5: So when you look at where I was, even in housing,
Speaker 5: everyone was pushing back on city of Yes, and today
Speaker 5: all came to where we were. And when you live
Speaker 5: these experiences, you have a different eyesight than others. And
Speaker 5: so what I want for my local community groups and
Speaker 5: organizations is to understand we're in the city together. And
Speaker 5: far too often folks said that listen, I have my backyard,
Speaker 5: I have my park, I have all that I want.
Speaker 5: I don't want any additional people here. But if you
Speaker 5: do that, then you're going to hurt the long term
Speaker 5: plan of this city.
Speaker 2: So your main opponent in this race has made affordability
Speaker 2: the sort of cornerstone, and you talked about obviously the
Speaker 2: expansion of affordable housing in New York City under your administration,
Speaker 2: which is real. Nonetheless, New York City is a crazy
Speaker 2: expensive place to live. Yes, I think it's worth it
Speaker 2: because I think it's the best city in the world.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know what, I'll pay the high
Speaker 2: cost of housing here because I love New York City.
Speaker 2: But do we just have to accept you know, it's
Speaker 2: sort of in the same way you said, Okay, you
Speaker 2: know New York's always gotta have thirty five million opinions
Speaker 2: for eight point five million residents, that's New York City.
Speaker 2: Do we just all have to accept that the city
Speaker 2: has to be incredibly expensive?
Speaker 5: No, no, we don't. And what government must do is
Speaker 5: utilize their powers to help working class people. And when
Speaker 5: you think about it, that's what we have done. We
Speaker 5: put thirty billion dollars back into working class people, and
Speaker 5: we looked at what is driving the course. Number one,
Speaker 5: as we talked, affordable housing was one area, and we're
Speaker 5: doing that.
Speaker 4: We're building.
Speaker 5: We break breaking records year one, year two, and year three.
Speaker 5: We build more affordable housing individual years in any other
Speaker 5: administration in history.
Speaker 4: But look at the other areas.
Speaker 5: What's the number one cause of bankruptcy medical day were
Speaker 5: excuse in medical debt for low income New Yorkers forced
Speaker 5: to care children? Sixty seven hundred age out every year
Speaker 5: they slip through the cracks. They don't get to support
Speaker 5: that they deserve. We're paying their college tuition and we're
Speaker 5: giving them life cultures into their twenty one instead of
Speaker 5: aging out at eighteen, so they don't slip through the cracks.
Speaker 5: Or what hurts women the most but families, in particular childcare.
Speaker 5: We dropped the cost of childcare from two and twenty
Speaker 5: dollars a week to a month to less than twenty
Speaker 5: dollars a month. We were the first one in twenty
Speaker 5: years to drop to earn it. To increase the earned
Speaker 5: income tax credit, we're paying for high speed broadband in
Speaker 5: low income housing and Nisia and other locale locals in
Speaker 5: the process reduce the cost of using our subway system
Speaker 5: for low income New Yorkers. So the real message is
Speaker 5: I can't handle the price of bread, but I could
Speaker 5: put bread back in the pockets of New Yorkers and
Speaker 5: we've done it after sum of thirty billion dollars. So
Speaker 5: it's easy to talk about pine the sky ideas that
Speaker 5: is not within the span of the control of the mayor,
Speaker 5: like free busses. Free busses is a three billion dollar
Speaker 5: price tag, and if you're stating that the foundation of
Speaker 5: your plan is based on increasing taxes on the high
Speaker 5: one percent earnest when in fact you don't have the
Speaker 5: authority to do that. You know who has the authority, Assemblyment.
Speaker 5: My opponent is an assemblyment. If he couldn't get it
Speaker 5: done as the assemblyman, how is he going to get
Speaker 5: it done as a mayor, particularly when the governor who
Speaker 5: signs off on it sayd that she's not raising income taxes.
Speaker 5: New York City is the highest income tax in the country,
Speaker 5: The state is the highest in the country. And so
Speaker 5: what I did put money back in the pockets. Do
Speaker 5: you know there's no income tax for low income New
Speaker 5: Yorkers in the city because of my ax attack. That
Speaker 5: is how you look at the power of the mayor's
Speaker 5: office and say, how do I help working class people.
Speaker 5: I'm blown away that he has hijacked the narrative of
Speaker 5: being a broking class mayor and putting money back in
Speaker 5: affordability issue when I've done it. That's my record is
Speaker 5: clear on putting money back in the pockets of working
Speaker 5: class people.
Speaker 3: Since we're talking about your opponent's policies, zorn Mum, Donnie,
Speaker 3: you've said that New Yorkers don't understand what socialism is.
Speaker 3: Can you give us your definition of socialism? Like, what
Speaker 3: is socialism to you?
Speaker 5: Well, first, I would say this, seventy percent of New
Speaker 5: York is like the theme and concept of socialism. And
Speaker 5: many people, if you were to ask, they will tell
Speaker 5: you they've never been to a socialist country. I've been
Speaker 5: to a communist and socialist country. I've been to Venezuela.
Speaker 5: I've been to Cuba. I know what rational books are.
Speaker 5: I think it is the concept that you're going to
Speaker 5: take money from one area of the population and equal
Speaker 5: it out across the board. And many government run locales
Speaker 5: and facilities such as supermarkets. Now, when you do that
Speaker 5: in concept, it sounds good, but if you open when
Speaker 5: the government runs supermarket, you want to kill the bodego industry.
Speaker 5: You're going to kill the independent of supermarket industries. So
Speaker 5: I think the whole concept of believing as though resources
Speaker 5: from the top end that those who believe that we
Speaker 5: should not have any billionaires in the city, which I
Speaker 5: just don't, it doesn't balance out because when you look
Speaker 5: at where the tax dollars come from and spreading the wealth.
Speaker 4: If you want to use that classification across the entire population.
Speaker 5: That doesn't work for me, has never worked anywhere on
Speaker 5: the globe. There's not one country we can point to
Speaker 5: that says this concept has been successful.
Speaker 3: I mean, we do have progressive taxes, though you just
Speaker 3: said that lower income New Yorkers don't have to pay
Speaker 3: New York tax So there is an element of that here. Like,
Speaker 3: is there a point at which is too much? Or like,
Speaker 3: what exactly is the issue when you say it's too much?
Speaker 3: Explain it to me more, like, is there a point
Speaker 3: at which the redistributive.
Speaker 2: Effects flips into socialism?
Speaker 3: Yeah, flips into socialism.
Speaker 5: Well, I think so. I think there's a balance. And
Speaker 5: I like to say all the time, I want the
Speaker 5: person who drives the limousine to get a fair wage
Speaker 5: and be able to provide for his family. And I
Speaker 5: want the person assists in the backseat of the limousine
Speaker 5: to be able to use his discretionary dollars or her
Speaker 5: discretionary dollars. When you look at the billionaires in this
Speaker 5: city that everyone wants to demonize, they're the ones who
Speaker 5: pay into their philanthropic actions into our museums. They're the
Speaker 5: ones that sponsor like the Robinhood Foundation to deal with
Speaker 5: where people are slipping through the cracks. They're the ones
Speaker 5: and their tax dollars are paying for our teachers and
Speaker 5: our firefighters and those who are on the low economic end.
Speaker 5: That perfect financial ecosystem is what makes a city like
Speaker 5: this great. So if your position is that, particularly in
Speaker 5: the atmosphere where you now could run your organizations and
Speaker 5: entities outside the city, you can easily go to Connecticut,
Speaker 5: New Jersey, of Miami, which we lost a great deal
Speaker 5: of high income earners. If your position is we don't
Speaker 5: want you here in our city, ideally that's attractive to
Speaker 5: people to hear we're getting rid of all the billionaires,
Speaker 5: But when you drill down in the numbers, those billionaires
Speaker 5: are keeping the lights on. And because we have billionaires,
Speaker 5: we're able to do things like as attacks for the
Speaker 5: working class.
Speaker 2: Going back to something you said earlier, you're talking about
Speaker 2: federal funding, federal support for Nitscha, the public housing. Should
Speaker 2: any mayor of New York City currently, should the mayor
Speaker 2: have a oppositional relationship with Trump. A lot of people
Speaker 2: want that. A lot of people want the mayor to
Speaker 2: stand as a bulwark to some extent against Trump's policy.
Speaker 2: You obviously benefited from the fact that he dropped Charger
Speaker 2: or his DOJ dropped charges against you. There's been cooperation
Speaker 2: in terms of ice on wrikers. How do you think
Speaker 2: about the fact that whether you know, they're sort of
Speaker 2: sort of yeah, detrumpifying New York City for both the
Speaker 2: citizens and also undocumented residents.
Speaker 5: The most dangerous thing that being a married mayor during
Speaker 5: this time is people read headlines and not the fulls,
Speaker 5: you know, and that's unfortunate when you think about it.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.
Speaker 5: And when you look at the definition of the relationship
Speaker 5: I have with the current president, everyone is ignoring the
Speaker 5: relationship I have with President Biden.
Speaker 4: I called myself the Biden of Brooklyn Eye.
Speaker 2: I watched that video clip. I watched it like ten times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we had a good relationship and I like
Speaker 5: the president. Do I believe there were those in this
Speaker 5: administration that participated in law fair He actually said it,
Speaker 5: He said his Justice Department was politicized when he partnered
Speaker 5: his son, he knew what was happening there. But Biden
Speaker 5: came to the city and spent the whole day with me.
Speaker 5: When I was dealing with law and enforce Smith issues
Speaker 5: and we didn't have an ATF had someone to be
Speaker 5: in charge of the alcohol, tobacco and firearms, and he
Speaker 5: appointed someone.
Speaker 4: He visited my crisis management teams.
Speaker 5: He sat down and spoke with me about going after violence,
Speaker 5: which was my the issue that I ran on, and
Speaker 5: so the same goes to for this president. I didn't
Speaker 5: know Donald Trump. A lot of people don't realize that.
Speaker 5: I didn't know until I met him at the Alfred E.
Speaker 5: Smith dinner and he spoke with me. He was on
Speaker 5: the campaign trail prior to even meeting me, saying it's
Speaker 5: wrong what they doing to this mayor in New York City,
Speaker 5: and he saw what was happening. And when he came
Speaker 5: into office, the same things I was saying about dangerous
Speaker 5: migrants and asylum seekers pre election, I was saying post election.
Speaker 5: And when I walked out of the voting booth on
Speaker 5: election day and the microphone was in my face and
Speaker 5: they said who did you vote for? I said VP Harris.
Speaker 5: I was very clear, you know, did I disagree with
Speaker 5: what I saw the Democratic Party was doing? Yes, but
Speaker 5: I still remained loyal to do was what I thought
Speaker 5: was right to do so when you fast forward to today,
Speaker 5: we took the ministration to court more than any other
Speaker 5: mayor in the country, nor the mayors going to court
Speaker 5: as much as I have pushing back on the policies.
Speaker 5: But when we needed the President of the United States
Speaker 5: to look at a project we had in Sunset Park
Speaker 5: or Windfall, billions of dollars investment of five hundred thousand
Speaker 5: homes were going to use the energy, fifteen hundred union jobs.
Speaker 5: I flew to Washington and sat down with the President
Speaker 5: and said, mister President, we can't have this project destroyed.
Speaker 5: He lifted the stop work order. That project is now
Speaker 5: moving forward. That's what mayors of big cities are supposed
Speaker 5: to do. Knock and pout in the corner and just
Speaker 5: call the president names and say, well, you know what,
Speaker 5: people are upset of the outcome of election.
Speaker 4: But how does that help New York. How does it.
Speaker 5: Help New York to communicate and coordinate to go after
Speaker 5: dangerous people. We had dangerous Venezuelan gangs in the city.
Speaker 5: They were forcing women who are migrants and undocumented into prostitution.
Speaker 5: I coordinated with federal authorities. We took down to twenty
Speaker 5: seven gang members we were able for gun possession and
Speaker 5: other dangerous crimes. So it is my job as the
Speaker 5: mayor of the biggest city in America to sit down
Speaker 5: and not war with the president, but work with the
Speaker 5: president to deliver for the people of this city.
Speaker 3: This is the perfect segue for me to ask something
Speaker 3: that might seem slightly random, but actually I think it's
Speaker 3: relevant because you've recommended before that New Yorkers should read
Speaker 3: Cash Ptel's book All about the Deep State. What do
Speaker 3: you think about the Trump administration's refusal to release the
Speaker 3: Epstein files.
Speaker 5: I would love to see what's in those Epstein filess.
Speaker 5: You know, I think we all do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I'm eager to look at UFOs. You know, there's so
Speaker 5: many history. I'm still trying to figure out who kid
Speaker 5: to kill Kennedy.
Speaker 6: You know, well that was another chase.
Speaker 2: There's what's going on here because a lot of people
Speaker 2: are really confused because for years this was a yeah,
Speaker 2: and then suddenly it's like it's a hoax.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 2: You have a you have a you have a guest
Speaker 2: for what's going on at all.
Speaker 5: I don't know if his advisor is security personnel advise
Speaker 5: otherwise of timing. I don't have no idea. I look
Speaker 5: forward to seeing. There's so many deep secrets in America
Speaker 5: that I think we all want to know, and it's
Speaker 5: imperative that as much as we can find it as possible.
Speaker 5: And I'm going to talk about cash Cashier's book, which
Speaker 5: I thought was a good book. People laugh at the
Speaker 5: terminology of a deep state, Uh, but it is. We
Speaker 5: have people in government who have been in government through presidents,
Speaker 5: through mayors, through governors, and they're very arrogant. They believe
Speaker 5: they are the elected. They believe they answer to no one.
Speaker 5: They believe that they are able to hold up projects
Speaker 5: that they don't like. And I saw that firsthand as
Speaker 5: the mayor. And they're connected to reporters, they're connected to prosecutors,
Speaker 5: and they're connected to be able to they write a
Speaker 5: letter on you in a minute, they get a story
Speaker 5: planted in a minute and leaks. And I saw it
Speaker 5: in how it operates. Now think about this fore moment.
Speaker 5: Everybody let it go over their head. The Southern District
Speaker 5: of New York classified themselves as sovereign.
Speaker 4: I mean, we need to really think about that.
Speaker 5: As soveign, there's no sovereign entities in America, everyone responds
Speaker 5: to someone. If you believe you have to report to
Speaker 5: no one, even main justice, you could do whatever you want.
Speaker 5: That's unacceptable and I should outrage every American that any
Speaker 5: entity with that level of prosecutorial power that can really
Speaker 5: disrupt your life. You know, peopot in me, mya diamond,
Speaker 5: I was indicted for calling the fire Department asking them
Speaker 5: to do a building inspection, not to pass what I
Speaker 5: ran on. I ran on making the FDNY I respond
Speaker 5: to businesses that could not open, and they connected it
Speaker 5: to well, you had a bunch of upgrades when you
Speaker 5: paid for your tribho and we're going to now turn
Speaker 5: that into bribery and we're gonna.
Speaker 4: Put you in jail for thirty three years.
Speaker 2: Come on, I want to go back to ice for
Speaker 2: a second. I take your point absolutely about violent criminals
Speaker 2: and the need to address them, whether they're migrants or not.
Speaker 2: But obviously, you know there's ice raids happening across the country,
Speaker 2: including nonviolent but undocumented migrants. New York City has a
Speaker 2: long history of being a self designated sanctuary city. Setting
Speaker 2: aside the sort of violent criminal element, what is the
Speaker 2: degree to which you know this is going to continue,
Speaker 2: presumably going forward at least to the rest of the
Speaker 2: Trump administration. What is the degree to which you're inclined
Speaker 2: to cooperate with the administration on nonviolent undocumented migrants.
Speaker 4: We don't clear.
Speaker 5: And as you mentioned, of the city's a sanctuary city,
Speaker 5: and understand, Centuary City is not a law. It is
Speaker 5: a belief that we believe in this city. If you're
Speaker 5: in New York and you buy a bottle of water
Speaker 5: and you pay taxes on that, those taxes go to
Speaker 5: your goods and services.
Speaker 4: So in this city, if.
Speaker 5: You are documented or not, we don't question you on that.
Speaker 5: You can go get medical assistances if you need it,
Speaker 5: Your child will be able to go to school, You
Speaker 5: can call a police. If you're a victim of a crime,
Speaker 5: you could make sure that you could walk through the
Speaker 5: streets or the city of New York. And that is
Speaker 5: what our entire belief system is. We will never cooperate
Speaker 5: or collaborate with ICE on civil enforcement. That is against
Speaker 5: the law. We never done and we never will. We
Speaker 5: will coordinate with them when it comes down to criminal enforcement.
Speaker 5: Because we need to be very clear on this, and
Speaker 5: I think this has been distorted. ICE is not a
Speaker 5: criminal organization. People could dislike. I don't like taking money
Speaker 5: out of my pockets, but it's still a federal agency
Speaker 5: and it's needed to make sure our tax dollars are collected.
Speaker 4: Is spent.
Speaker 5: ICE is not a criminal organization. ICE is a federal
Speaker 5: law enforcement agency. Our city has determined that parts of
Speaker 5: their duties we are not allowed to collaborate with.
Speaker 4: We respect that and we never will.
Speaker 5: But I'm going to collaborate with law enforcement agencies HSIFBI,
Speaker 5: ICE when it comes down to keeping this city safe.
Speaker 5: These gangs were extremely dangerous, and you had others who
Speaker 5: were committing real crimes in this city. And I don't
Speaker 5: care if you're documented or undocumented. After twenty two years
Speaker 5: of being in the law enforcement community, I'm going to
Speaker 5: keep New Yorker safe.
Speaker 3: But isn't ICE's definition of a crime that includes basically
Speaker 3: anyone who entered the country illegally?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: That's the problem. They're not distinguishing between gang members, filing criminals,
Speaker 3: and people. But you know, are just trying to work.
Speaker 4: Great question, because it is a crime to enter and remain.
Speaker 4: That's a crime.
Speaker 5: We don't collaborate on that, Okay, because it's clear in
Speaker 5: our law that of certain even crimes of that nature,
Speaker 5: we will not collaborate in. And so when it comes
Speaker 5: down to that level of crimes, we would not collaborate.
Speaker 5: We're very clear on what we will collaborate. But I
Speaker 5: also want to point this out because it's often ignored.
Speaker 5: I'm off, someone is always pointing up Mike in my
Speaker 5: face and saying, hey, every what do you What are
Speaker 5: you going to do about what ICE is doing. That's
Speaker 5: a federal agency. I think we're getting were allowing our
Speaker 5: federal electors off the hook. I don't control the rules
Speaker 5: of the federal agencies. I don't have I have the
Speaker 5: city council. That's my job to look at laws, to
Speaker 5: sign their laws. You know, we're not asking our federal
Speaker 5: partners enough. Hey, guys, what are you doing about this?
Speaker 5: That's not my job. The enforcement of immigration is a
Speaker 5: federal authority, not a city authority. I'm going to do
Speaker 5: my job. I don't control who come across the border.
Speaker 5: I control who's in the city when they are across
Speaker 5: the border. And I told President Biden this, I said, listen,
Speaker 5: we have a porous border. I went down to El Paso,
Speaker 5: I went down to the Darien Gap to Ecuador, Columbia, Mexico,
Speaker 5: and I saw the flow, and I saw how they
Speaker 5: were telling people. The streets are paved with gold in
Speaker 5: New York. Why don't we control the flow. We have
Speaker 5: serious population issues across our country. We should be allowing
Speaker 5: people to come into the country and say, hey, Kentucky
Speaker 5: need backstretch workers in the racing industry. Here's where you're
Speaker 5: going for three years, and then you could go wherever
Speaker 5: you want in the country. This is a win win
Speaker 5: if we handled it better. We had no control at
Speaker 5: the border. We were allowing anyone to come through. Now
Speaker 5: that we see a substantial decrease, we're no longer and
Speaker 5: get long again. Four thousand people a week into to
Speaker 5: this city, which was just not sustainable.
Speaker 2: Speaking of crime, the crime stats have improved a lot
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years. The rat I've been
Speaker 2: monitoring your war on rats. Impressed.
Speaker 3: He's a single issue voter.
Speaker 2: I've been very impressed with the war on rats, and
Speaker 2: I've looked at the stats on three to one one
Speaker 2: calls for rats, et cetera. On the other hand, the
Speaker 2: city is still dirty. When I take my kids to
Speaker 2: the park, only half the time. Can I expect to
Speaker 2: be able to not even half like find a clean
Speaker 2: bathroom elevators at the subway is still like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's this is a world class city. Do we just
Speaker 2: have again sort of going back to the thing, like
Speaker 2: is this inevitable that a city like New York City
Speaker 2: has to have it so that we don't even have
Speaker 2: clean bathrooms most of the time, Like speaking like from
Speaker 2: a family issue like public childcare obviously incredibly important, but
Speaker 2: there's all these other things that make it much more difficult,
Speaker 2: I would think than it needs to be that. I
Speaker 2: feel like everyone has just come to accept, like, you know,
Speaker 2: we can't have clean bathrooms in a public park.
Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I would never accept a city where there's disorder, there's
Speaker 5: carry outs in this dirt. I just don't won't remember
Speaker 5: when I came into office. Many people don't realize that
Speaker 5: we had encampments in our subw so.
Speaker 2: It was the worst of the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 4: But yeah, all.
Speaker 5: Over we had on a long highways. January and February,
Speaker 5: I went out and there's still pictures that someone sent me.
Speaker 5: The other day, I went out and visited people that
Speaker 5: were living in encampments. And I saw that when I
Speaker 5: walked in and crawled in their encampments and their boxes
Speaker 5: and the tents, I saw stealth food, human waste, drug
Speaker 5: path frenaria. Many of them was dealing with schizophrenic behavior, bipolar.
Speaker 5: And I went back to the team and said, we
Speaker 5: can't do the city, can't live this way. Go look
Speaker 5: at Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portly, but look at these
Speaker 5: other cities. You don't see that here. Because I had
Speaker 5: a zero tolerance. And once we dealt with the encampments,
Speaker 5: once we dealt with the crimes, we moving twenty two
Speaker 5: thousand legal guns off our streets, one hundred thousand ghost vehicles,
Speaker 5: illegal veh because that were running our streets. Once we
Speaker 5: dealt with that, Now we move into the next layer.
Speaker 4: LEYA.
Speaker 5: We immediately went after the road that's in our city,
Speaker 5: which was just really an indicator of just total uncleanliness
Speaker 5: in the city.
Speaker 4: Now we put in place a twelve.
Speaker 5: Hundred person a quality of Life team, our Q team
Speaker 5: we call it. That's going after those nagging issues. I
Speaker 5: still run right around the streets one am, two am
Speaker 5: in the morning, calling my commissioners when I see an
Speaker 5: encampment or I see an overflowed trash. They all tell
Speaker 5: you about those horrific calls that they give from me,
Speaker 5: because we should see it before you see it. You
Speaker 5: should deserve a clean bathroom. You deserve to be able
Speaker 5: to go to a park where there's no trash on it.
Speaker 5: You deserve to not have to worry about a road
Speaker 5: and running across your feet. You know, this is what
Speaker 5: you deserve. These are the basic things that we deserve.
Speaker 5: But we had to deal with the level one issue,
Speaker 5: first dealing with getting us out of COVID, dealing with crime,
Speaker 5: and then this unexpected crisis of dealing with the min
Speaker 5: using a silum seekers.
Speaker 4: You know, people tell us all the.
Speaker 5: Time that, okay, Eric, you have to migrant in silum
Speaker 5: secrets behind you.
Speaker 4: Everything is okay. It's not.
Speaker 5: We spend seven pointy seven billion dollars. Five hundred million
Speaker 5: of that should have gone to chronically absent children. A
Speaker 5: billion should have gone to building housing for our seniors.
Speaker 5: A billion should have gone to making sure that we
Speaker 5: boost up our Department of Sanitation. What I'm trying to share,
Speaker 5: the long term repercussions of what we experience is going
Speaker 5: to have long term impacts on our city.
Speaker 3: On the quality of life issues and crime. I got
Speaker 3: to say, practically every time I'm in Broadway and Lafayette
Speaker 3: the station, which is pretty often, there are people shooting
Speaker 3: up in the corner. I literally went down the stairway
Speaker 3: the other day and a guy was standing there shooting
Speaker 3: himself up in the arm and I was three inches
Speaker 3: away from him. That was uncomfortable. That happens all the time,
Speaker 3: and no one seems to be doing anything about it.
Speaker 3: What exactly is the obstacle to improving some of the issues.
Speaker 3: Is it budget? Is it enforcement?
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 4: You know? And I hate it.
Speaker 5: I hate it when I see someone what we call
Speaker 5: not in on the street exactly when I see someone.
Speaker 5: We were up at the Hub the other day. It
Speaker 5: was just a state of total disrepair until we got
Speaker 5: in there and zoomed in. We put in place what
Speaker 5: we call our path team and our scout teams, and
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time in the subway system,
Speaker 5: and the goal is how do you talk people off
Speaker 5: the system. Now, we were able to take eighty five
Speaker 5: hundred people off our system that was living on our system.
Speaker 5: But I cannot tell you how much a challenge. It
Speaker 5: is dealing with people who dealing with severe mental health issues.
Speaker 5: They don't know they need care. That is why I
Speaker 5: was trying to get off. We need to pass the
Speaker 5: Involuntarily remove a bill because they are people who are
Speaker 5: harmful to themselves and harmful to others, and we have
Speaker 5: to take them inside. We have to bring them inside.
Speaker 5: And many people just have a philosophical disagreement with me
Speaker 5: on this issue. I want to say that if you
Speaker 5: are using drug use, we need to take you inside.
Speaker 5: If you are thirty degree, whether you don't have on shoes,
Speaker 5: you have soil your clothing, you're yelling and screaming. We
Speaker 5: have to talk them off the latch now and hope
Speaker 5: that they have to building trust and the Scout team
Speaker 5: are doing an amazing job, but it takes longer and
Speaker 5: you see those repeated offenders over and over again. But
Speaker 5: our goal is to go after this illegal to shoot
Speaker 5: up drugs in public. But when you do a real crackdown,
Speaker 5: you get a lot of heat that we're criminalizing drugs
Speaker 5: because drugs, you know, addiction is a disease. So we're
Speaker 5: trying to use the right balance. But we are far
Speaker 5: more encountering people than others would like us to do.
Speaker 5: We get a lot of complaints because we encounter people
Speaker 5: who are injecting themselves with drugs, people who are dealing
Speaker 5: with severe mental health illnesses, and I got to really
Speaker 5: ignore that noise for the better public overaw public safety
Speaker 5: of the city.
Speaker 2: Hotel prices in New York City are insane, and part
Speaker 2: of it seems to be this sort of opposition to
Speaker 2: hotel expansion, both from the owners of existing hotels and
Speaker 2: from unions. Also, you can't do airbnb, but whatever, I
Speaker 2: care less about that. When you think about like the
Speaker 2: vitality of New York City, like, do you have any
Speaker 2: vision like how to break this impass or do we
Speaker 2: just have to accept that as much as the city
Speaker 2: is going to grow, that the number of the capacity
Speaker 2: for our ability to take in tourism is just going
Speaker 2: to be sort of capped by our inability to build
Speaker 2: any new hotels.
Speaker 5: We need to build more, and we're at the pre
Speaker 5: pandemic levels. Our hotel industry is doing well, I think,
Speaker 5: you know to May. In fact, we have sixty five
Speaker 5: million tourists that came in last year. This is still
Speaker 5: the hot spot.
Speaker 2: How was New York City is the summer, shipping the
Speaker 2: summer from tourism perspective, now, it's not.
Speaker 4: The levels we have.
Speaker 5: I think some of the conversation around tariff, some of
Speaker 5: the conversations impacted our tourism, particularly some of our domestic tourists.
Speaker 5: We used to get a lot of tourists from Canada
Speaker 5: and we never really recovered the way we should have.
Speaker 5: Our our Asian market, Chinese were they were a major
Speaker 5: part of our tourism.
Speaker 4: But we're gonna We're gonna bounce back. We had it.
Speaker 5: We had to hit during COVID and we were able
Speaker 5: to recover after COVID and this is still a good product.
Speaker 5: You know, people want to yes, and we we believe
Speaker 5: the tourists. The hotel industry is going to continue to growth.
Speaker 5: You know, some bumps in the roads. We're looking at
Speaker 5: a conversation around what we could do with our hotel tax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do we get more rooms?
Speaker 5: Though that's the goal. We got to build more. We
Speaker 5: have to encourage more building. There were certain laws that
Speaker 5: were put in place previously about getting and receiving uh
Speaker 5: the permits to build. We had to do a real
Speaker 5: analysis of how do we encourage to get more rooms
Speaker 5: in the city.
Speaker 3: I have one more question. Yes, this is my most
Speaker 3: important one, possibly and something I've always wondered, a great
Speaker 3: mystery of our times. But in the course of prepping
Speaker 3: for this interview, Joe and I watched a lot of
Speaker 3: your previous interviews, your previous videos. I was watching your
Speaker 3: famous contraband video. Where in the world did you get
Speaker 3: a used crack pipe to use as a prop in
Speaker 3: that video?
Speaker 4: That was and actually I'm gonna remake that video.
Speaker 5: Oh a lot in times when I did that first
Speaker 5: video for those not a where it was a video.
Speaker 4: Showing how you should look in your child's room for drugs.
Speaker 5: When I did the first video, and still today people say, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, how can you do that as hard on children?
Speaker 5: You know, many people don't know that if someone is
Speaker 5: selling drugs in your home, when the police come, they
Speaker 5: come in and do a raid. Everyone goes grandmother, grandfather,
Speaker 5: children go to acs. Families are disrupted, and we need
Speaker 5: to take control.
Speaker 4: Of our homes. Now. It may not be in your home,
Speaker 4: you know, in.
Speaker 5: Your home this is something that you don't have to
Speaker 5: even worry about, or possibly I don't have to worry
Speaker 5: about it. With Jordan, my child but when you go
Speaker 5: to many of the inner cities where violent is rampant and.
Speaker 4: Drugs are pervasive.
Speaker 5: When we did that video, the number of responses people
Speaker 5: gave me was like, wow, I didn't know that and.
Speaker 4: So that that broke crack pipe pike.
Speaker 5: Back then when I did it, it was just about everywhere,
Speaker 5: like you see in certain communities, you see needles.
Speaker 3: Did you just pick one up off the street or
Speaker 3: something off the street.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Okay, last question, A bunch of people through gave Andrew
Speaker 2: Croma tons of money and it came up totally short
Speaker 2: in the primary. You're still running, yes, A would you
Speaker 2: consider in September dropping out if you're fourth in the
Speaker 2: polls or third in the polls? And be why should
Speaker 2: anyone donate to your campaign or your super packed given
Speaker 2: how ineffective those dollars seemed to be in the Democratic primary?
Speaker 5: It was it in effective in the last file and
Speaker 5: we were raised one point five.
Speaker 2: No, the money given to Cuoma was totally ineffective because
Speaker 2: he got trounced. Yeah, so why should anyone feel that
Speaker 2: any political giving is going to be useful in this environment.
Speaker 4: And money is important. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: I am probably the only elected officials that are stated
Speaker 5: over and over again, we need to take money out
Speaker 5: of politics completely. We should give a dollar amount to
Speaker 5: every candidate. They could only spend that dollar amount and
Speaker 5: that's it. There's no reason we should be calling up
Speaker 5: individuals asking for money. But that's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 5: And so when you look at it, those money, those
Speaker 5: dollars are used for important reasons, because television is extremely expensive,
Speaker 5: your staff, it's costs money, et cetera. He didn't lose
Speaker 5: because of this shortage of dollars. He lost because he
Speaker 5: did not want to be mayor of New York City.
Speaker 5: Is not a consolation prize. You know, you step down
Speaker 5: as governor and then you wake up one day and say, okay,
Speaker 5: I want to do a consolation prize and run.
Speaker 4: To be the mayor of the City of New York.
Speaker 4: And it was obvious.
Speaker 5: You don't come out on weekends, you don't do this,
Speaker 5: don't sit down and speak on podcasts or interviews. You
Speaker 5: live in a bubble. He always lived in a bubble.
Speaker 5: Governor's son went on to become a g went on
Speaker 5: to become governor. And then there's another pattern that a
Speaker 5: lot of people are ignoring what he feels about black
Speaker 5: men who are elected. Nobody wants to talk about this.
Speaker 5: He did it to Carl McCall. When Carl McCall ran
Speaker 5: to be the first black governor, Andrew Cuomo got in
Speaker 5: the race of sabotage his campaign. He did it to
Speaker 5: Charlie King. Charlie King was running to be attorney general,
Speaker 5: raised five million dollars, was one of the leading candidates.
Speaker 5: He got in, pushed Charlie King out. He did it
Speaker 5: to David Patterson. David was gonna run for re election.
Speaker 5: He decided to sabotage his campaign and moved him out.
Speaker 5: Now he's trying to do the same thing for me.
Speaker 5: And like you said, your audience needs to really understand
Speaker 5: what happened. I ran for independent. Everyone knew I was
Speaker 5: running for independent. Everybody thought I was foolish for doing so,
Speaker 5: not understanding that the only mayors that have won on
Speaker 5: the independent line we sit at mayors.
Speaker 4: We knew that Mundanni.
Speaker 5: Was going to be on the general election ballot on
Speaker 5: the Rooks family line. Why did and you throw his
Speaker 5: name into it if he was in the primary. He
Speaker 5: did it because he thought he could follow the same
Speaker 5: process that he's done for a long time. So let's
Speaker 5: look at the polls. The posts had him up for
Speaker 5: forty points, forty points. He sent out a poll through
Speaker 5: his staffers the day before the election that he was
Speaker 5: up ten points. He lost by thirteen points. How could
Speaker 5: we trust when you have an unexpected voting environment right now?
Speaker 5: This voting, this vote is going to depend on new voters,
Speaker 5: and everyone is talking about the energy on the Madonnie camp.
Speaker 5: Nine percent of the voters, two point five million Democrats
Speaker 5: having voted yet a million independents having voted Jets, several
Speaker 5: hundred thousand Republics having voted Jet. Never in my history
Speaker 5: of politics have I seen the energy around the stop
Speaker 5: Madonnie movement coming from my bodega's owners, coming from my
Speaker 5: small property owners, coming from my Jewish community, coming for
Speaker 5: my former former Soviet and Socialist block constituents that are
Speaker 5: here right now say they don't want to go backwards.
Speaker 4: So I said it before.
Speaker 5: If you look at some of the old tapes, I said,
Speaker 5: this is going to be the most exciting male race
Speaker 5: in the history of the city. I knew it in
Speaker 5: seven eight months ago.
Speaker 2: Politics.
Speaker 3: That's right, Where were you actually the night of the
Speaker 3: Democratic primary, and what was your reaction when mom Donnie won.
Speaker 3: Were you like, oh, I expected this because of all
Speaker 3: the reasons you just laid out about quota.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think about it.
Speaker 5: I think I was in the best sleeping I knew
Speaker 5: what the outcome was going to be. I said six
Speaker 5: months before the primary that Madonnie was going to win,
Speaker 5: and all I had to do is wake up to
Speaker 5: at an early day I had things to do in
Speaker 5: the city, or I think we had a storm that day.
Speaker 5: I could have been going around the city looking at
Speaker 5: some of the rain sites. You know, you think about
Speaker 5: I always use sports as an analogy. You know, I
Speaker 5: have the crown, and just the thought that Andrew is
Speaker 5: gonna tell the second sitting mayor, second mayor of color,
Speaker 5: that I should step aside for him.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the highest level of arrogance. You know.
Speaker 5: During my difficult moments COVID, my LUSS asylum seeker love Fair,
Speaker 5: I just stepped down and stepped up. I said, I
Speaker 5: was elected to serve the city. No matter what I
Speaker 5: had to face, I was gonna live up to my commitment.
Speaker 5: He didn't do that. When it got hot, he left.
Speaker 5: He abandoned his obligation for the City of New York.
Speaker 5: I would never do that to the city. I didn't
Speaker 5: abandon it as a police officer. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: abandon it as the mayor.
Speaker 2: You and are Producer care were the only two who
Speaker 2: knew six months earlier that I'm down he was gonna win.
Speaker 2: Eric Adam, thank you so much for coming on odd lots.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your chance to chat.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 3: Can Joe call you if he sees a rat?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well no, thank you so much.
Speaker 7: I enjoying it, Tracy.
Speaker 2: I'm glad we finally got a chance to speak to
Speaker 2: the mayor. I've never talked to uh, never talked to
Speaker 2: him before.
Speaker 3: Uh No, neither have I. I'm enjoying this transition. I
Speaker 3: do think it's a really interesting New York is obviously
Speaker 3: a really interesting p tree dish in which to experiment
Speaker 3: with a lot of economic policies, and it sort of
Speaker 3: solidifies a lot of the trends we've been talking about
Speaker 3: over the years, including affordable housing, taxation and things like that.
Speaker 2: I liked your question about when is there some magic
Speaker 2: line from which progressive taxation becomes socialism?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: And I actually think like this is a question for
Speaker 2: a lot of people, including Mom, Donnie, etc. Is there
Speaker 2: like what actually like constitutes like an acceptable or an
Speaker 2: ideal level of redistribution because obviously, you know Mayor Adams
Speaker 2: was talking about you know, yeah, socialism has failed everywhere,
Speaker 2: as he asserted, and yet an important element of New
Speaker 2: York City is the money that is raised from wealthy
Speaker 2: New Yorkers do as you put it, you know, put
Speaker 2: a put money back into people's pockets to make the
Speaker 2: city more affordable.
Speaker 3: Right, So at the moment that's optional. Billionaires can choose
Speaker 3: to do it. But I mean, if you think it's
Speaker 3: a good thing, then why not make it you know,
Speaker 3: I mean potentially maybe mandatory at some higher level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And why does it have to just be billionaires,
Speaker 2: because also there are a lot of people who are
Speaker 2: not billionaires who are also very wealthy, and that everyone
Speaker 2: just talks about billionaires, which I think is an important
Speaker 2: element of this conversation. You know, I do think that
Speaker 2: like there is a certain degree to which some of
Speaker 2: the pathologies of the city or just take it as
Speaker 2: like it's New York City and deal with it. And
Speaker 2: this is like what you do. So it's like and
Speaker 2: this is like, these are the costs. So of course
Speaker 2: it is going to take years to figure out whether
Speaker 2: we're going to use a specific plot of land that
Speaker 2: is contested and turn it into housing. Of course it's
Speaker 2: going to do is going to be a certain level
Speaker 2: of public drug consumption and rats. Although the rats have
Speaker 2: declined and broken bathrooms and stuff like that, it does
Speaker 2: feel like in the discourse we just sort of accept
Speaker 2: that because it's New York City, that there are certain
Speaker 2: things that are just going to be like SuPAR or
Speaker 2: actively hostile. Again, like from a family perspective, like, it
Speaker 2: really is not good at all that it's so hard
Speaker 2: frequently to find a bathroom in a public area.
Speaker 3: I will just say here, I mean, other major cities
Speaker 3: in the world do it differently, right, Like you go
Speaker 3: to a place like Tokyo, you do not see people
Speaker 3: nodding off in the street. And it kind of blows
Speaker 3: my mind also that New York still has this extremely
Speaker 3: high tax rate and a lot of these quality of
Speaker 3: life issues.
Speaker 2: But anyway, there's plenty more to talk about. If you
Speaker 2: wins reelection, we'll have them back on. Well, definitely, we'll
Speaker 2: definitely have them back on to talk about how all
Speaker 2: of these things are going?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Shall we leave it there?
Speaker 2: Let's leave it there.
Speaker 3: This has been another episode of the Authoughts podcast. I'm
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