WEBVTT - Mayor Eric Adams on the Future of New York City 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:13.960 Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.000 Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots podcast. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.079 I'm Joe Wisenthal and I'm Tracy Alloway. Tracy, we have 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.320 a special episode of the podcast today which needs very 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.720 little introduction, but we are speaking to the mayor. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.920 I love our transition to local city reporters. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.239 It's really fun learning about our city. Mayor Adams, New 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.400 York City, Mayor Adams, thank you so much for coming 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:40.040 on Odd Lots. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:40.960 Thank you, thank you. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:42.960 I think this is my second time this week, or 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.919 was it last week? Today's go to fast, but it's 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:47.159 way here being at Bloomberg. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.560 Thank you so much. I read an article recently from 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.159 the journalist Derek Thompson. Here's talking about the death of 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.200 partying in America. People apparently don't party as much as 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.040 they used to. New York City people still party, but 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.120 you know, there aren't as many twenty four hour clubs 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.440 as there used to be. Apparently there's fewer four am 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.759 liquor licenses, et cetera. You're a man who appreciates night 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.080 life and partying. What happened? Why don't people party as 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:11.520 much as. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.000 That's a great question, and first of all is why 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.880 do I appreciate the night life. It's thirty billion dollar industry, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.280 and we viewed the city often as mayors, we viewed 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.880 it as nine to five, but it's not. When I 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.960 was a police officer, I work overnights, midnights, and when 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.960 I go into a night life a restaurant, I walk 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.720 in the kitchen and I talked to the dishwalpsher, I 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:40.360 talked to the busboy or girl. Of those are everyday 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.039 working class people. And I knew when I came back 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.039 after COVID, I had to turn our night life around, and. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.240 We did that. You can't get reservations in the city anymore. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.760 Broadway had the best twelve months in the history of 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.880 the city. And part of coming back out at night 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.440 is what is our signature New York the city. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:59.720 That there's no party crisis. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.440 No, it still still shuts down earlier than it used 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.160 to know it does. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.000 And part of the problem, I believe you have far 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.280 too many people on community boys that have been for 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.160 a long time, and they're not connecting the economics with 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.360 the desire really not to have any night life. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.840 Nightlife is important of the community. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:26.160 It is allowed to let off some steam networking, really collaborating. Listen, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.120 you come to New York, You're going to find your 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.560 mate here because the diversity of this great city. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.000 I wanted to ask about some other specific policy proposals, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.200 specifically housing, and you know, I went to your website 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.480 and I saw the sort of summary of your proposals, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.240 and then I clicked in to learn more and it 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.880 took me to your previous accomplishments under your first term. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.120 So I'm really curious if you could maybe broaden out 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.880 some of your housing policies, Like what exactly are you 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:55.680 talking about here? 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.519 Well, first of let's look at the fact that when 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.560 you look at shovels in ground and what we're proposing 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.320 in our rezoning, including the most comprehensive housing reform in 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.320 the history of the city sixty years previously, was the 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.840 first time we really started looking at housing and some 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.680 of the reform. We're going to build more housing in 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.440 one term than the twelve years under Bloombirds the eight 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:25.120 years under Deblasio combined in one term and twenty five 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.280 billion dollars we put it into our ten year capital plan. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.600 In addition to that, for the first time in history, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.920 we are including Nightscha of housing into the plan. So 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.960 we're looking at a couple of different locations. Number One, 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.080 we saw the federal Estate government walk away from Nightscha. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.000 Nightscha has an eighty eight billion dollar dollar capital problem. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.480 We had to find new ways of building on Nightsye. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.080 We did the land trust. Many people tried, We got 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.800 it done. We're also doing the rat programs. Many people 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.000 have attempted to do it. We got it done. The 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.480 amazing project that we are getting ready to do in 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.560 rees House is where we're going to tear down all buildings, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.760 build new buildings and without zero deplacement of tennants. That's 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.560 how we deal with tonight you issue. Then we realized 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.800 that we want to build more housing. We have to 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.960 build everywhere. It was unbelievable how many elected officials were 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.120 stopping that building fifty nine community boards. Ten of those 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.320 fifty nine were building more affordable housing than forty nine combined. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.440 So our goal now is to build all over the city. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.640 And that's what City of Yes was about, a little 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:33.159 more housing in every community that we could allow residents 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.000 and tendants to stay in the community instead of leaving 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.560 the city. So our goal in the future, as we 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.359 move forward forward, want to build faster, We want to 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.440 build more. Drive by Willis point right now, twenty four 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.920 hundred units of affordable housing. That's THEIRS new soccer stadium 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.240 that's paid private dollars, a new school, new open space, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.080 and you see the buildings actually going up in the 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.680 same term. So our focus is building more and building everywhere. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.800 The first time I ever heard about controversy at the 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.880 Elizabeth Street Garden was in twenty eighteen, I think. And 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.760 then now it's twenty twenty five and you've come out 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.560 and you said, okay, let's move on. Let's not continue 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.200 to fight this. But setting aside whether it was it's 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.160 right to use that space for housing or not, like 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.760 setting aside these pictures, why does it take seven years 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.240 or longer to come to answers on these questions? 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.200 Great question, And if you if you do an analysis 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.240 over all the things that we've done, we've land plan 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.040 we landed planes that no one else was able to do. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.520 When you read all the noise, take all the noise 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.920 out of the administration, and you say, okay, let's look 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.360 at the raw numbers. Like you said, your listeners are sophisticated. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.919 You look at the raw numbers. We were able to 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.440 land the plane on Governor's Island. We were able to 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.800 land the plane in sunset sunset Paarl, were able to 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.200 land the plane on these difficult tasks. So what did 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.880 we do When we brought in Randy Master as the 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.720 first deputy mayor, he was he looked at it. He says, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.960 how can we leverage this space? How could we walk 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:01.720 away with a win? 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:02.360 We did. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.679 Elizabeth Street Garden was going to do about one hundred 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.840 and twenty five units of housing. One hundred and twenty units. 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.919 We're going to get six hundred and twenty five units 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:12.479 of housing. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.000 And we got. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.320 Elsewheared after years of fighting about it. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.040 Yes, this is New York. Let's let's be clear about 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.800 the city. Whatever you try to do, we got eight 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.839 point five million people. We have thirty five million opinions. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.960 You know you're always going to have New Yorkers no 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.039 matter what you attempt to do. But how do we 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.919 leverage the best for the city. So we took the 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.520 concerns of Elizabeth Street Garden. People were concerned about that. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.560 They wanted to hold onto the garden, and I said, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.520 you got to give me a plan that I could 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.680 deal with the number one crisis I have in the city, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.320 and that is housing, and we were able to leverage 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.919 that space and walk away with over six hundred additional 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.400 units of affordable housing. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.800 That said win. No matter how you talk about it. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.720 What's the broad lesson from that experience, Because when we 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.080 were came about nightlife just then, you know it sounds 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.280 like community groups and special interest groups are still an 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.800 impediment or an obstacle to some of the things that 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.520 you seem to want to do. Is there anything you're 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.600 thinking about to maybe like encourage more cooperation, build up 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.000 that city of yes. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:17.800 Idea, yes. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.560 And you know what we witness in the city, particularly 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.080 in our elected officials. Elected officials on Monday they say 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.360 housing is right, but on Tuesday they say not in 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:27.920 my district. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:28.880 We don't want to hear it. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.960 And if I walked away with anything in the last 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.280 three years and seven months, is that you have to 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.400 ignore the noise. You have to do what's best long 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:43.360 term for the city. And it's a retrospective appreciation and 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.120 if you do an analysis not only in housing, Look 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.160 how far I was away from where the noise of 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.800 the leadership of Democratic Party when I was talking about 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.160 taking severe mental health illness off our streets. I got 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.480 an unbelievable pushback when I talk about investing in the 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.200 police depart and when others were talking defund the police. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.559 Everyone was pushing back. And now we see record levels 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.560 of decrease in crime. When I was talking about the 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.880 cannabis fight, that we had to do something about it. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.640 So when you look at where I was, even in housing, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.320 everyone was pushing back on city of Yes, and today 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.520 all came to where we were. And when you live 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.120 these experiences, you have a different eyesight than others. And 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.000 so what I want for my local community groups and 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.640 organizations is to understand we're in the city together. And 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.040 far too often folks said that listen, I have my backyard, 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.520 I have my park, I have all that I want. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.840 I don't want any additional people here. But if you 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.240 do that, then you're going to hurt the long term 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.160 plan of this city. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.640 So your main opponent in this race has made affordability 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.760 the sort of cornerstone, and you talked about obviously the 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.360 expansion of affordable housing in New York City under your administration, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.960 which is real. Nonetheless, New York City is a crazy 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.640 expensive place to live. Yes, I think it's worth it 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.240 because I think it's the best city in the world. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.560 So it's like, you know what, I'll pay the high 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.600 cost of housing here because I love New York City. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.160 But do we just have to accept you know, it's 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.680 sort of in the same way you said, Okay, you 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.240 know New York's always gotta have thirty five million opinions 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.439 for eight point five million residents, that's New York City. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.360 Do we just all have to accept that the city 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:20.800 has to be incredibly expensive? 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.920 No, no, we don't. And what government must do is 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:32.000 utilize their powers to help working class people. And when 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.680 you think about it, that's what we have done. We 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.880 put thirty billion dollars back into working class people, and 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.480 we looked at what is driving the course. Number one, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.200 as we talked, affordable housing was one area, and we're 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:44.600 doing that. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:45.160 We're building. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.200 We break breaking records year one, year two, and year three. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.240 We build more affordable housing individual years in any other 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:53.560 administration in history. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.000 But look at the other areas. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.560 What's the number one cause of bankruptcy medical day were 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:04.199 excuse in medical debt for low income New Yorkers forced 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.960 to care children? Sixty seven hundred age out every year 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.760 they slip through the cracks. They don't get to support 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.800 that they deserve. We're paying their college tuition and we're 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.160 giving them life cultures into their twenty one instead of 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.040 aging out at eighteen, so they don't slip through the cracks. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.400 Or what hurts women the most but families, in particular childcare. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.360 We dropped the cost of childcare from two and twenty 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.320 dollars a week to a month to less than twenty 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.080 dollars a month. We were the first one in twenty 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.920 years to drop to earn it. To increase the earned 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.600 income tax credit, we're paying for high speed broadband in 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.360 low income housing and Nisia and other locale locals in 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.200 the process reduce the cost of using our subway system 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.960 for low income New Yorkers. So the real message is 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.560 I can't handle the price of bread, but I could 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.840 put bread back in the pockets of New Yorkers and 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.800 we've done it after sum of thirty billion dollars. So 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.959 it's easy to talk about pine the sky ideas that 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.040 is not within the span of the control of the mayor, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.920 like free busses. Free busses is a three billion dollar 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.280 price tag, and if you're stating that the foundation of 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.800 your plan is based on increasing taxes on the high 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.839 one percent earnest when in fact you don't have the 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.359 authority to do that. You know who has the authority, Assemblyment. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.520 My opponent is an assemblyment. If he couldn't get it 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.920 done as the assemblyman, how is he going to get 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.720 it done as a mayor, particularly when the governor who 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.960 signs off on it sayd that she's not raising income taxes. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.840 New York City is the highest income tax in the country, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.200 The state is the highest in the country. And so 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.840 what I did put money back in the pockets. Do 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.480 you know there's no income tax for low income New 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.400 Yorkers in the city because of my ax attack. That 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.800 is how you look at the power of the mayor's 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.680 office and say, how do I help working class people. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.800 I'm blown away that he has hijacked the narrative of 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.360 being a broking class mayor and putting money back in 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.840 affordability issue when I've done it. That's my record is 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.120 clear on putting money back in the pockets of working 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:09.800 class people. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.840 Since we're talking about your opponent's policies, zorn Mum, Donnie, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.520 you've said that New Yorkers don't understand what socialism is. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.840 Can you give us your definition of socialism? Like, what 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:22.160 is socialism to you? 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.960 Well, first, I would say this, seventy percent of New 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.720 York is like the theme and concept of socialism. And 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.280 many people, if you were to ask, they will tell 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.480 you they've never been to a socialist country. I've been 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.240 to a communist and socialist country. I've been to Venezuela. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.200 I've been to Cuba. I know what rational books are. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.839 I think it is the concept that you're going to 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:48.720 take money from one area of the population and equal 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.720 it out across the board. And many government run locales 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.439 and facilities such as supermarkets. Now, when you do that 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.120 in concept, it sounds good, but if you open when 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.560 the government runs supermarket, you want to kill the bodego industry. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.880 You're going to kill the independent of supermarket industries. So 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:12.120 I think the whole concept of believing as though resources 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.040 from the top end that those who believe that we 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.320 should not have any billionaires in the city, which I 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.400 just don't, it doesn't balance out because when you look 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.960 at where the tax dollars come from and spreading the wealth. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.079 If you want to use that classification across the entire population. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.080 That doesn't work for me, has never worked anywhere on 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.920 the globe. There's not one country we can point to 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.080 that says this concept has been successful. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.560 I mean, we do have progressive taxes, though you just 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.920 said that lower income New Yorkers don't have to pay 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.800 New York tax So there is an element of that here. Like, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.000 is there a point at which is too much? Or like, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.360 what exactly is the issue when you say it's too much? 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.440 Explain it to me more, like, is there a point 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.560 at which the redistributive. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.160 Effects flips into socialism? 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.560 Yeah, flips into socialism. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.080 Well, I think so. I think there's a balance. And 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.120 I like to say all the time, I want the 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.880 person who drives the limousine to get a fair wage 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.160 and be able to provide for his family. And I 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.719 want the person assists in the backseat of the limousine 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.800 to be able to use his discretionary dollars or her 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.199 discretionary dollars. When you look at the billionaires in this 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.160 city that everyone wants to demonize, they're the ones who 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.200 pay into their philanthropic actions into our museums. They're the 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.080 ones that sponsor like the Robinhood Foundation to deal with 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.560 where people are slipping through the cracks. They're the ones 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.360 and their tax dollars are paying for our teachers and 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.920 our firefighters and those who are on the low economic end. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.120 That perfect financial ecosystem is what makes a city like 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.440 this great. So if your position is that, particularly in 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.400 the atmosphere where you now could run your organizations and 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.479 entities outside the city, you can easily go to Connecticut, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.080 New Jersey, of Miami, which we lost a great deal 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.760 of high income earners. If your position is we don't 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.120 want you here in our city, ideally that's attractive to 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.880 people to hear we're getting rid of all the billionaires, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.400 But when you drill down in the numbers, those billionaires 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.280 are keeping the lights on. And because we have billionaires, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.720 we're able to do things like as attacks for the 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:15.520 working class. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.400 Going back to something you said earlier, you're talking about 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:38.040 federal funding, federal support for Nitscha, the public housing. Should 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.960 any mayor of New York City currently, should the mayor 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.520 have a oppositional relationship with Trump. A lot of people 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.280 want that. A lot of people want the mayor to 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:52.160 stand as a bulwark to some extent against Trump's policy. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.920 You obviously benefited from the fact that he dropped Charger 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.440 or his DOJ dropped charges against you. There's been cooperation 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.960 in terms of ice on wrikers. How do you think 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.960 about the fact that whether you know, they're sort of 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.960 sort of yeah, detrumpifying New York City for both the 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.240 citizens and also undocumented residents. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.840 The most dangerous thing that being a married mayor during 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:19.240 this time is people read headlines and not the fulls, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.640 you know, and that's unfortunate when you think about it. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.960 Sometimes you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.359 And when you look at the definition of the relationship 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.400 I have with the current president, everyone is ignoring the 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.400 relationship I have with President Biden. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.400 I called myself the Biden of Brooklyn Eye. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.080 I watched that video clip. I watched it like ten times. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.560 Yeah, because we had a good relationship and I like 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.640 the president. Do I believe there were those in this 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.360 administration that participated in law fair He actually said it, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.000 He said his Justice Department was politicized when he partnered 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.640 his son, he knew what was happening there. But Biden 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.720 came to the city and spent the whole day with me. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.200 When I was dealing with law and enforce Smith issues 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.920 and we didn't have an ATF had someone to be 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:09.720 in charge of the alcohol, tobacco and firearms, and he 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.040 appointed someone. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.320 He visited my crisis management teams. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.399 He sat down and spoke with me about going after violence, 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.399 which was my the issue that I ran on, and 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.320 so the same goes to for this president. I didn't 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.200 know Donald Trump. A lot of people don't realize that. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.679 I didn't know until I met him at the Alfred E. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.600 Smith dinner and he spoke with me. He was on 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.080 the campaign trail prior to even meeting me, saying it's 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.760 wrong what they doing to this mayor in New York City, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.640 and he saw what was happening. And when he came 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.880 into office, the same things I was saying about dangerous 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.119 migrants and asylum seekers pre election, I was saying post election. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.800 And when I walked out of the voting booth on 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.639 election day and the microphone was in my face and 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.200 they said who did you vote for? I said VP Harris. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.280 I was very clear, you know, did I disagree with 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.760 what I saw the Democratic Party was doing? Yes, but 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.680 I still remained loyal to do was what I thought 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.280 was right to do so when you fast forward to today, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:13.560 we took the ministration to court more than any other 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.640 mayor in the country, nor the mayors going to court 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.159 as much as I have pushing back on the policies. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.240 But when we needed the President of the United States 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.680 to look at a project we had in Sunset Park 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.719 or Windfall, billions of dollars investment of five hundred thousand 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.840 homes were going to use the energy, fifteen hundred union jobs. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.120 I flew to Washington and sat down with the President 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.879 and said, mister President, we can't have this project destroyed. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.000 He lifted the stop work order. That project is now 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.800 moving forward. That's what mayors of big cities are supposed 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.399 to do. Knock and pout in the corner and just 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.679 call the president names and say, well, you know what, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.640 people are upset of the outcome of election. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.000 But how does that help New York. How does it. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.600 Help New York to communicate and coordinate to go after 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.840 dangerous people. We had dangerous Venezuelan gangs in the city. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:10.000 They were forcing women who are migrants and undocumented into prostitution. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.000 I coordinated with federal authorities. We took down to twenty 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.359 seven gang members we were able for gun possession and 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.199 other dangerous crimes. So it is my job as the 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.640 mayor of the biggest city in America to sit down 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.199 and not war with the president, but work with the 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.359 president to deliver for the people of this city. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.680 This is the perfect segue for me to ask something 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.800 that might seem slightly random, but actually I think it's 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.720 relevant because you've recommended before that New Yorkers should read 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.359 Cash Ptel's book All about the Deep State. What do 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.280 you think about the Trump administration's refusal to release the 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.359 Epstein files. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.120 I would love to see what's in those Epstein filess. 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:51.080 You know, I think we all do. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:51.639 You know. 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.919 I'm eager to look at UFOs. You know, there's so 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.080 many history. I'm still trying to figure out who kid 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:57.840 to kill Kennedy. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:19:59.880 You know, well that was another chase. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.240 There's what's going on here because a lot of people 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.520 are really confused because for years this was a yeah, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.160 and then suddenly it's like it's a hoax. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:08.480 What do you do? 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:09.800 You have a you have a you have a guest 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.080 for what's going on at all. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:16.560 I don't know if his advisor is security personnel advise 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:20.120 otherwise of timing. I don't have no idea. I look 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.080 forward to seeing. There's so many deep secrets in America 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.640 that I think we all want to know, and it's 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.280 imperative that as much as we can find it as possible. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.280 And I'm going to talk about cash Cashier's book, which 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.600 I thought was a good book. People laugh at the 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.679