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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe Wisenthal and I'm Tracy Alloway. Tracy, we have

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Speaker 2: a special episode of the podcast today which needs very

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Speaker 2: little introduction, but we are speaking to the mayor.

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Speaker 3: I love our transition to local city reporters.

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Speaker 2: It's really fun learning about our city. Mayor Adams, New

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Speaker 2: York City, Mayor Adams, thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 2: on Odd Lots.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I think this is my second time this week, or

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Speaker 5: was it last week? Today's go to fast, but it's

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Speaker 5: way here being at Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I read an article recently from

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Speaker 2: the journalist Derek Thompson. Here's talking about the death of

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Speaker 2: partying in America. People apparently don't party as much as

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Speaker 2: they used to. New York City people still party, but

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Speaker 2: you know, there aren't as many twenty four hour clubs

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Speaker 2: as there used to be. Apparently there's fewer four am

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Speaker 2: liquor licenses, et cetera. You're a man who appreciates night

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Speaker 2: life and partying. What happened? Why don't people party as

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Speaker 2: much as.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question, and first of all is why

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Speaker 5: do I appreciate the night life. It's thirty billion dollar industry,

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Speaker 5: and we viewed the city often as mayors, we viewed

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Speaker 5: it as nine to five, but it's not. When I

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Speaker 5: was a police officer, I work overnights, midnights, and when

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Speaker 5: I go into a night life a restaurant, I walk

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Speaker 5: in the kitchen and I talked to the dishwalpsher, I

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Speaker 5: talked to the busboy or girl. Of those are everyday

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Speaker 5: working class people. And I knew when I came back

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Speaker 5: after COVID, I had to turn our night life around, and.

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Speaker 4: We did that. You can't get reservations in the city anymore.

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Speaker 5: Broadway had the best twelve months in the history of

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Speaker 5: the city. And part of coming back out at night

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Speaker 5: is what is our signature New York the city.

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Speaker 2: That there's no party crisis.

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Speaker 3: No, it still still shuts down earlier than it used

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Speaker 3: to know it does.

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Speaker 5: And part of the problem, I believe you have far

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Speaker 5: too many people on community boys that have been for

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Speaker 5: a long time, and they're not connecting the economics with

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Speaker 5: the desire really not to have any night life.

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Speaker 4: Nightlife is important of the community.

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Speaker 5: It is allowed to let off some steam networking, really collaborating. Listen,

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Speaker 5: you come to New York, You're going to find your

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Speaker 5: mate here because the diversity of this great city.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask about some other specific policy proposals,

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Speaker 3: specifically housing, and you know, I went to your website

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Speaker 3: and I saw the sort of summary of your proposals,

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Speaker 3: and then I clicked in to learn more and it

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Speaker 3: took me to your previous accomplishments under your first term.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really curious if you could maybe broaden out

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Speaker 3: some of your housing policies, Like what exactly are you

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Speaker 5: Well, first of let's look at the fact that when

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Speaker 5: you look at shovels in ground and what we're proposing

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Speaker 5: in our rezoning, including the most comprehensive housing reform in

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Speaker 5: the history of the city sixty years previously, was the

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Speaker 5: first time we really started looking at housing and some

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Speaker 5: of the reform. We're going to build more housing in

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Speaker 5: one term than the twelve years under Bloombirds the eight

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Speaker 5: years under Deblasio combined in one term and twenty five

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Speaker 5: billion dollars we put it into our ten year capital plan.

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Speaker 5: In addition to that, for the first time in history,

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Speaker 5: we are including Nightscha of housing into the plan. So

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Speaker 5: we're looking at a couple of different locations. Number One,

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Speaker 5: we saw the federal Estate government walk away from Nightscha.

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Speaker 5: Nightscha has an eighty eight billion dollar dollar capital problem.

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Speaker 5: We had to find new ways of building on Nightsye.

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Speaker 5: We did the land trust. Many people tried, We got

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Speaker 5: it done. We're also doing the rat programs. Many people

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Speaker 5: have attempted to do it. We got it done. The

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Speaker 5: amazing project that we are getting ready to do in

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Speaker 5: rees House is where we're going to tear down all buildings,

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Speaker 5: build new buildings and without zero deplacement of tennants. That's

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Speaker 5: how we deal with tonight you issue. Then we realized

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Speaker 5: that we want to build more housing. We have to

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Speaker 5: build everywhere. It was unbelievable how many elected officials were

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Speaker 5: stopping that building fifty nine community boards. Ten of those

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Speaker 5: fifty nine were building more affordable housing than forty nine combined.

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Speaker 5: So our goal now is to build all over the city.

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Speaker 5: And that's what City of Yes was about, a little

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Speaker 5: more housing in every community that we could allow residents

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Speaker 5: and tendants to stay in the community instead of leaving

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Speaker 5: the city. So our goal in the future, as we

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Speaker 5: build more. Drive by Willis point right now, twenty four

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Speaker 5: hundred units of affordable housing. That's THEIRS new soccer stadium

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Speaker 5: that's paid private dollars, a new school, new open space,

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Speaker 5: and you see the buildings actually going up in the

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Speaker 5: same term. So our focus is building more and building everywhere.

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Speaker 2: The first time I ever heard about controversy at the

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Street Garden was in twenty eighteen, I think. And

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Speaker 2: then now it's twenty twenty five and you've come out

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Speaker 2: and you said, okay, let's move on. Let's not continue

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Speaker 2: to fight this. But setting aside whether it was it's

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Speaker 2: setting aside these pictures, why does it take seven years

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Speaker 2: or longer to come to answers on these questions?

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Speaker 5: Great question, And if you if you do an analysis

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Speaker 5: over all the things that we've done, we've land plan

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Speaker 5: we landed planes that no one else was able to do.

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Speaker 5: When you read all the noise, take all the noise

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Speaker 5: out of the administration, and you say, okay, let's look

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Speaker 5: at the raw numbers. Like you said, your listeners are sophisticated.

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Speaker 5: You look at the raw numbers. We were able to

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Speaker 5: land the plane on Governor's Island. We were able to

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Speaker 5: land the plane in sunset sunset Paarl, were able to

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Speaker 5: land the plane on these difficult tasks. So what did

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Speaker 5: we do When we brought in Randy Master as the

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Speaker 5: first deputy mayor, he was he looked at it. He says,

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Speaker 5: how can we leverage this space? How could we walk

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Speaker 4: We did.

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Speaker 5: Elizabeth Street Garden was going to do about one hundred

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Speaker 5: and twenty five units of housing. One hundred and twenty units.

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Speaker 5: We're going to get six hundred and twenty five units

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Speaker 4: And we got.

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Speaker 2: Elsewheared after years of fighting about it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, this is New York. Let's let's be clear about

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Speaker 5: the city. Whatever you try to do, we got eight

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Speaker 5: point five million people. We have thirty five million opinions.

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Speaker 5: You know you're always going to have New Yorkers no

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Speaker 5: matter what you attempt to do. But how do we

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Speaker 5: leverage the best for the city. So we took the

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Speaker 5: concerns of Elizabeth Street Garden. People were concerned about that.

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Speaker 5: They wanted to hold onto the garden, and I said,

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Speaker 5: you got to give me a plan that I could

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Speaker 5: deal with the number one crisis I have in the city,

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Speaker 5: and that is housing, and we were able to leverage

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Speaker 4: That said win. No matter how you talk about it.

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Speaker 3: What's the broad lesson from that experience, Because when we

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Speaker 3: were came about nightlife just then, you know it sounds

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Speaker 3: like community groups and special interest groups are still an

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Speaker 3: impediment or an obstacle to some of the things that

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Speaker 3: you seem to want to do. Is there anything you're

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Speaker 3: thinking about to maybe like encourage more cooperation, build up

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Speaker 3: that city of yes.

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Speaker 4: Idea, yes.

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Speaker 5: And you know what we witness in the city, particularly

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Speaker 5: in our elected officials. Elected officials on Monday they say

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Speaker 5: housing is right, but on Tuesday they say not in

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Speaker 5: my district.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 5: And if I walked away with anything in the last

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Speaker 5: ignore the noise. You have to do what's best long

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Speaker 5: term for the city. And it's a retrospective appreciation and

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Speaker 5: if you do an analysis not only in housing, Look

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Speaker 5: how far I was away from where the noise of

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Speaker 5: the leadership of Democratic Party when I was talking about

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Speaker 5: taking severe mental health illness off our streets. I got

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Speaker 5: an unbelievable pushback when I talk about investing in the

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Speaker 5: police depart and when others were talking defund the police.

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Speaker 5: Everyone was pushing back. And now we see record levels

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Speaker 5: of decrease in crime. When I was talking about the

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Speaker 5: cannabis fight, that we had to do something about it.

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Speaker 5: So when you look at where I was, even in housing,

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Speaker 5: everyone was pushing back on city of Yes, and today

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Speaker 5: all came to where we were. And when you live

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Speaker 5: these experiences, you have a different eyesight than others. And

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Speaker 5: so what I want for my local community groups and

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Speaker 5: organizations is to understand we're in the city together. And

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Speaker 5: far too often folks said that listen, I have my backyard,

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Speaker 5: I have my park, I have all that I want.

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Speaker 5: I don't want any additional people here. But if you

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Speaker 5: do that, then you're going to hurt the long term

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Speaker 2: So your main opponent in this race has made affordability

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Speaker 2: the sort of cornerstone, and you talked about obviously the

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Speaker 2: expansion of affordable housing in New York City under your administration,

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Speaker 2: which is real. Nonetheless, New York City is a crazy

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Speaker 2: expensive place to live. Yes, I think it's worth it

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know what, I'll pay the high

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Speaker 2: But do we just have to accept you know, it's

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Speaker 2: know New York's always gotta have thirty five million opinions

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Speaker 2: for eight point five million residents, that's New York City.

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Speaker 2: Do we just all have to accept that the city

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Speaker 2: has to be incredibly expensive?

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Speaker 5: No, no, we don't. And what government must do is

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Speaker 5: utilize their powers to help working class people. And when

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Speaker 5: you think about it, that's what we have done. We

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Speaker 5: put thirty billion dollars back into working class people, and

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Speaker 5: we looked at what is driving the course. Number one,

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Speaker 5: as we talked, affordable housing was one area, and we're

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Speaker 4: We're building.

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Speaker 5: We break breaking records year one, year two, and year three.

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Speaker 5: We build more affordable housing individual years in any other

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Speaker 5: administration in history.

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Speaker 4: But look at the other areas.

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Speaker 5: What's the number one cause of bankruptcy medical day were

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Speaker 5: excuse in medical debt for low income New Yorkers forced

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Speaker 5: to care children? Sixty seven hundred age out every year

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Speaker 5: that they deserve. We're paying their college tuition and we're

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Speaker 5: giving them life cultures into their twenty one instead of

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Speaker 5: aging out at eighteen, so they don't slip through the cracks.

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Speaker 5: Or what hurts women the most but families, in particular childcare.

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Speaker 5: We dropped the cost of childcare from two and twenty

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Speaker 5: dollars a week to a month to less than twenty

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Speaker 5: years to drop to earn it. To increase the earned

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Speaker 5: income tax credit, we're paying for high speed broadband in

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Speaker 5: low income housing and Nisia and other locale locals in

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Speaker 5: the process reduce the cost of using our subway system

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Speaker 5: for low income New Yorkers. So the real message is

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Speaker 5: I can't handle the price of bread, but I could

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Speaker 5: put bread back in the pockets of New Yorkers and

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Speaker 5: we've done it after sum of thirty billion dollars. So

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Speaker 5: it's easy to talk about pine the sky ideas that

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Speaker 5: is not within the span of the control of the mayor,

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Speaker 5: New York City is the highest income tax in the country,

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Speaker 3: Since we're talking about your opponent's policies, zorn Mum, Donnie,

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Speaker 3: you've said that New Yorkers don't understand what socialism is.

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Speaker 5: Well, first, I would say this, seventy percent of New

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Speaker 4: If you want to use that classification across the entire population.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we do have progressive taxes, though you just

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Speaker 2: Going back to something you said earlier, you're talking about

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Speaker 2: You obviously benefited from the fact that he dropped Charger

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Speaker 5: The most dangerous thing that being a married mayor during

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.

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Speaker 5: And when you look at the definition of the relationship

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Speaker 4: He visited my crisis management teams.

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Speaker 5: He sat down and spoke with me about going after violence,

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Speaker 5: But when we needed the President of the United States

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Speaker 4: But how does that help New York. How does it.

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Speaker 5: Help New York to communicate and coordinate to go after

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Speaker 3: This is the perfect segue for me to ask something

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Speaker 5: I would love to see what's in those Epstein filess.

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Speaker 6: You know, well that was another chase.

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Speaker 2: There's what's going on here because a lot of people

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Speaker 5: I don't know if his advisor is security personnel advise

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Speaker 5: Everybody let it go over their head. The Southern District

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Speaker 4: I mean, we need to really think about that.

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Speaker 5: That's unacceptable and I should outrage every American that any

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Speaker 4: Put you in jail for thirty three years.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I want to go back to ice for

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Speaker 2: a second. I take your point absolutely about violent criminals

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Speaker 2: to cooperate with the administration on nonviolent undocumented migrants.

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Speaker 4: We don't clear.

441
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Speaker 5: And as you mentioned, of the city's a sanctuary city,

442
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: and understand, Centuary City is not a law. It is

443
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: a belief that we believe in this city. If you're

444
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Speaker 5: in New York and you buy a bottle of water

445
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 5: and you pay taxes on that, those taxes go to

446
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Speaker 5: your goods and services.

447
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Speaker 4: So in this city, if.

448
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Speaker 5: You are documented or not, we don't question you on that.

449
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 5: You can go get medical assistances if you need it,

450
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 5: Your child will be able to go to school, You

451
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 5: can call a police. If you're a victim of a crime,

452
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: you could make sure that you could walk through the

453
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Speaker 5: streets or the city of New York. And that is

454
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Speaker 5: what our entire belief system is. We will never cooperate

455
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Speaker 5: or collaborate with ICE on civil enforcement. That is against

456
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Speaker 5: the law. We never done and we never will. We

457
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Speaker 5: will coordinate with them when it comes down to criminal enforcement.

458
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 5: Because we need to be very clear on this, and

459
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Speaker 5: I think this has been distorted. ICE is not a

460
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Speaker 5: criminal organization. People could dislike. I don't like taking money

461
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 5: out of my pockets, but it's still a federal agency

462
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: and it's needed to make sure our tax dollars are collected.

463
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Speaker 4: Is spent.

464
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Speaker 5: ICE is not a criminal organization. ICE is a federal

465
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Speaker 5: law enforcement agency. Our city has determined that parts of

466
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Speaker 5: their duties we are not allowed to collaborate with.

467
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Speaker 4: We respect that and we never will.

468
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Speaker 5: But I'm going to collaborate with law enforcement agencies HSIFBI,

469
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Speaker 5: ICE when it comes down to keeping this city safe.

470
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Speaker 5: These gangs were extremely dangerous, and you had others who

471
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Speaker 5: were committing real crimes in this city. And I don't

472
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Speaker 5: care if you're documented or undocumented. After twenty two years

473
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Speaker 5: of being in the law enforcement community, I'm going to

474
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Speaker 5: keep New Yorker safe.

475
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Speaker 3: But isn't ICE's definition of a crime that includes basically

476
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Speaker 3: anyone who entered the country illegally?

477
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Speaker 6: Right?

478
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Speaker 3: That's the problem. They're not distinguishing between gang members, filing criminals,

479
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Speaker 3: and people. But you know, are just trying to work.

480
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Speaker 4: Great question, because it is a crime to enter and remain.

481
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: That's a crime.

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Speaker 5: We don't collaborate on that, Okay, because it's clear in

483
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: our law that of certain even crimes of that nature,

484
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 5: we will not collaborate in. And so when it comes

485
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 5: down to that level of crimes, we would not collaborate.

486
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 5: We're very clear on what we will collaborate. But I

487
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 5: also want to point this out because it's often ignored.

488
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Speaker 5: I'm off, someone is always pointing up Mike in my

489
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 5: face and saying, hey, every what do you What are

490
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 5: you going to do about what ICE is doing. That's

491
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Speaker 5: a federal agency. I think we're getting were allowing our

492
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Speaker 5: federal electors off the hook. I don't control the rules

493
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Speaker 5: of the federal agencies. I don't have I have the

494
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: city council. That's my job to look at laws, to

495
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 5: sign their laws. You know, we're not asking our federal

496
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 5: partners enough. Hey, guys, what are you doing about this?

497
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Speaker 5: That's not my job. The enforcement of immigration is a

498
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 5: federal authority, not a city authority. I'm going to do

499
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Speaker 5: my job. I don't control who come across the border.

500
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: I control who's in the city when they are across

501
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Speaker 5: the border. And I told President Biden this, I said, listen,

502
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 5: we have a porous border. I went down to El Paso,

503
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: I went down to the Darien Gap to Ecuador, Columbia, Mexico,

504
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: and I saw the flow, and I saw how they

505
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: were telling people. The streets are paved with gold in

506
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Speaker 5: New York. Why don't we control the flow. We have

507
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 5: serious population issues across our country. We should be allowing

508
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 5: people to come into the country and say, hey, Kentucky

509
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: need backstretch workers in the racing industry. Here's where you're

510
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: going for three years, and then you could go wherever

511
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 5: you want in the country. This is a win win

512
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: if we handled it better. We had no control at

513
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: the border. We were allowing anyone to come through. Now

514
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 5: that we see a substantial decrease, we're no longer and

515
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: get long again. Four thousand people a week into to

516
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Speaker 5: this city, which was just not sustainable.

517
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Speaker 2: Speaking of crime, the crime stats have improved a lot

518
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years. The rat I've been

519
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: monitoring your war on rats. Impressed.

520
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: He's a single issue voter.

521
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Speaker 2: I've been very impressed with the war on rats, and

522
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: I've looked at the stats on three to one one

523
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: calls for rats, et cetera. On the other hand, the

524
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: city is still dirty. When I take my kids to

525
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: the park, only half the time. Can I expect to

526
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Speaker 2: be able to not even half like find a clean

527
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: bathroom elevators at the subway is still like, you know,

528
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Speaker 2: it's this is a world class city. Do we just

529
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Speaker 2: have again sort of going back to the thing, like

530
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: is this inevitable that a city like New York City

531
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Speaker 2: has to have it so that we don't even have

532
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Speaker 2: clean bathrooms most of the time, Like speaking like from

533
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: a family issue like public childcare obviously incredibly important, but

534
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: there's all these other things that make it much more difficult,

535
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Speaker 2: I would think than it needs to be that. I

536
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: feel like everyone has just come to accept, like, you know,

537
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: we can't have clean bathrooms in a public park.

538
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Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent.

539
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 5: I would never accept a city where there's disorder, there's

540
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 5: carry outs in this dirt. I just don't won't remember

541
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Speaker 5: when I came into office. Many people don't realize that

542
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: we had encampments in our subw so.

543
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: It was the worst of the COVID pandemic.

544
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, all.

545
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: Over we had on a long highways. January and February,

546
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: I went out and there's still pictures that someone sent me.

547
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: The other day, I went out and visited people that

548
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 5: were living in encampments. And I saw that when I

549
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 5: walked in and crawled in their encampments and their boxes

550
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 5: and the tents, I saw stealth food, human waste, drug

551
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: path frenaria. Many of them was dealing with schizophrenic behavior, bipolar.

552
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 5: And I went back to the team and said, we

553
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 5: can't do the city, can't live this way. Go look

554
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 5: at Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portly, but look at these

555
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 5: other cities. You don't see that here. Because I had

556
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: a zero tolerance. And once we dealt with the encampments,

557
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: once we dealt with the crimes, we moving twenty two

558
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: thousand legal guns off our streets, one hundred thousand ghost vehicles,

559
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: illegal veh because that were running our streets. Once we

560
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: dealt with that, Now we move into the next layer.

561
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Speaker 4: LEYA.

562
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: We immediately went after the road that's in our city,

563
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: which was just really an indicator of just total uncleanliness

564
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: in the city.

565
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: Now we put in place a twelve.

566
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Speaker 5: Hundred person a quality of Life team, our Q team

567
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: we call it. That's going after those nagging issues. I

568
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: still run right around the streets one am, two am

569
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: in the morning, calling my commissioners when I see an

570
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: encampment or I see an overflowed trash. They all tell

571
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 5: you about those horrific calls that they give from me,

572
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: because we should see it before you see it. You

573
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: should deserve a clean bathroom. You deserve to be able

574
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: to go to a park where there's no trash on it.

575
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: You deserve to not have to worry about a road

576
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 5: and running across your feet. You know, this is what

577
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: you deserve. These are the basic things that we deserve.

578
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 5: But we had to deal with the level one issue,

579
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 5: first dealing with getting us out of COVID, dealing with crime,

580
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: and then this unexpected crisis of dealing with the min

581
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: using a silum seekers.

582
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: You know, people tell us all the.

583
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: Time that, okay, Eric, you have to migrant in silum

584
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: secrets behind you.

585
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Everything is okay. It's not.

586
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: We spend seven pointy seven billion dollars. Five hundred million

587
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: of that should have gone to chronically absent children. A

588
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: billion should have gone to building housing for our seniors.

589
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 5: A billion should have gone to making sure that we

590
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: boost up our Department of Sanitation. What I'm trying to share,

591
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 5: the long term repercussions of what we experience is going

592
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: to have long term impacts on our city.

593
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: On the quality of life issues and crime. I got

594
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: to say, practically every time I'm in Broadway and Lafayette

595
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 3: the station, which is pretty often, there are people shooting

596
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: up in the corner. I literally went down the stairway

597
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: the other day and a guy was standing there shooting

598
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: himself up in the arm and I was three inches

599
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: away from him. That was uncomfortable. That happens all the time,

600
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: and no one seems to be doing anything about it.

601
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: What exactly is the obstacle to improving some of the issues.

602
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: Is it budget? Is it enforcement?

603
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 6: What is it?

604
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: You know? And I hate it.

605
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 5: I hate it when I see someone what we call

606
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: not in on the street exactly when I see someone.

607
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: We were up at the Hub the other day. It

608
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 5: was just a state of total disrepair until we got

609
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 5: in there and zoomed in. We put in place what

610
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: we call our path team and our scout teams, and

611
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time in the subway system,

612
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: and the goal is how do you talk people off

613
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 5: the system. Now, we were able to take eighty five

614
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: hundred people off our system that was living on our system.

615
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 5: But I cannot tell you how much a challenge. It

616
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: is dealing with people who dealing with severe mental health issues.

617
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: They don't know they need care. That is why I

618
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: was trying to get off. We need to pass the

619
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: Involuntarily remove a bill because they are people who are

620
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: harmful to themselves and harmful to others, and we have

621
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 5: to take them inside. We have to bring them inside.

622
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: And many people just have a philosophical disagreement with me

623
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 5: on this issue. I want to say that if you

624
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: are using drug use, we need to take you inside.

625
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 5: If you are thirty degree, whether you don't have on shoes,

626
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: you have soil your clothing, you're yelling and screaming. We

627
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: have to talk them off the latch now and hope

628
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: that they have to building trust and the Scout team

629
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: are doing an amazing job, but it takes longer and

630
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 5: you see those repeated offenders over and over again. But

631
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: our goal is to go after this illegal to shoot

632
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: up drugs in public. But when you do a real crackdown,

633
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: you get a lot of heat that we're criminalizing drugs

634
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: because drugs, you know, addiction is a disease. So we're

635
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: trying to use the right balance. But we are far

636
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: more encountering people than others would like us to do.

637
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: We get a lot of complaints because we encounter people

638
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: who are injecting themselves with drugs, people who are dealing

639
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: with severe mental health illnesses, and I got to really

640
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: ignore that noise for the better public overaw public safety

641
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: of the city.

642
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: Hotel prices in New York City are insane, and part

643
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: of it seems to be this sort of opposition to

644
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: hotel expansion, both from the owners of existing hotels and

645
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: from unions. Also, you can't do airbnb, but whatever, I

646
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: care less about that. When you think about like the

647
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: vitality of New York City, like, do you have any

648
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: vision like how to break this impass or do we

649
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: just have to accept that as much as the city

650
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: is going to grow, that the number of the capacity

651
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: for our ability to take in tourism is just going

652
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: to be sort of capped by our inability to build

653
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: any new hotels.

654
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: We need to build more, and we're at the pre

655
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 5: pandemic levels. Our hotel industry is doing well, I think,

656
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 5: you know to May. In fact, we have sixty five

657
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: million tourists that came in last year. This is still

658
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: the hot spot.

659
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Speaker 2: How was New York City is the summer, shipping the

660
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Speaker 2: summer from tourism perspective, now, it's not.

661
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Speaker 4: The levels we have.

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Speaker 5: I think some of the conversation around tariff, some of

663
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 5: the conversations impacted our tourism, particularly some of our domestic tourists.

664
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Speaker 5: We used to get a lot of tourists from Canada

665
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Speaker 5: and we never really recovered the way we should have.

666
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Speaker 5: Our our Asian market, Chinese were they were a major

667
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Speaker 5: part of our tourism.

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Speaker 4: But we're gonna We're gonna bounce back. We had it.

669
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Speaker 5: We had to hit during COVID and we were able

670
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Speaker 5: to recover after COVID and this is still a good product.

671
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 5: You know, people want to yes, and we we believe

672
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Speaker 5: the tourists. The hotel industry is going to continue to growth.

673
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: You know, some bumps in the roads. We're looking at

674
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Speaker 5: a conversation around what we could do with our hotel tax.

675
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do we get more rooms?

676
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: Though that's the goal. We got to build more. We

677
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: have to encourage more building. There were certain laws that

678
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: were put in place previously about getting and receiving uh

679
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: the permits to build. We had to do a real

680
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 5: analysis of how do we encourage to get more rooms

681
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 5: in the city.

682
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Speaker 3: I have one more question. Yes, this is my most

683
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Speaker 3: important one, possibly and something I've always wondered, a great

684
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: mystery of our times. But in the course of prepping

685
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: for this interview, Joe and I watched a lot of

686
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Speaker 3: your previous interviews, your previous videos. I was watching your

687
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: famous contraband video. Where in the world did you get

688
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: a used crack pipe to use as a prop in

689
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: that video?

690
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 4: That was and actually I'm gonna remake that video.

691
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: Oh a lot in times when I did that first

692
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: video for those not a where it was a video.

693
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: Showing how you should look in your child's room for drugs.

694
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: When I did the first video, and still today people say, oh,

695
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 5: you know, how can you do that as hard on children?

696
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: You know, many people don't know that if someone is

697
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 5: selling drugs in your home, when the police come, they

698
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 5: come in and do a raid. Everyone goes grandmother, grandfather,

699
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: children go to acs. Families are disrupted, and we need

700
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 5: to take control.

701
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: Of our homes. Now. It may not be in your home,

702
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: you know, in.

703
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: Your home this is something that you don't have to

704
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 5: even worry about, or possibly I don't have to worry

705
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: about it. With Jordan, my child but when you go

706
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 5: to many of the inner cities where violent is rampant and.

707
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Speaker 4: Drugs are pervasive.

708
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: When we did that video, the number of responses people

709
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 5: gave me was like, wow, I didn't know that and.

710
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: So that that broke crack pipe pike.

711
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 5: Back then when I did it, it was just about everywhere,

712
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 5: like you see in certain communities, you see needles.

713
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: Did you just pick one up off the street or

714
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: something off the street.

715
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last question, A bunch of people through gave Andrew

717
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: Croma tons of money and it came up totally short

718
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: in the primary. You're still running, yes, A would you

719
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Speaker 2: consider in September dropping out if you're fourth in the

720
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Speaker 2: polls or third in the polls? And be why should

721
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Speaker 2: anyone donate to your campaign or your super packed given

722
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: how ineffective those dollars seemed to be in the Democratic primary?

723
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Speaker 5: It was it in effective in the last file and

724
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: we were raised one point five.

725
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Speaker 2: No, the money given to Cuoma was totally ineffective because

726
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: he got trounced. Yeah, so why should anyone feel that

727
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: any political giving is going to be useful in this environment.

728
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: And money is important. It's unfortunate.

729
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 5: I am probably the only elected officials that are stated

730
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: over and over again, we need to take money out

731
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: of politics completely. We should give a dollar amount to

732
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: every candidate. They could only spend that dollar amount and

733
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 5: that's it. There's no reason we should be calling up

734
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: individuals asking for money. But that's the nature of the beast.

735
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 5: And so when you look at it, those money, those

736
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Speaker 5: dollars are used for important reasons, because television is extremely expensive,

737
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 5: your staff, it's costs money, et cetera. He didn't lose

738
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: because of this shortage of dollars. He lost because he

739
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 5: did not want to be mayor of New York City.

740
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: Is not a consolation prize. You know, you step down

741
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: as governor and then you wake up one day and say, okay,

742
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: I want to do a consolation prize and run.

743
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: To be the mayor of the City of New York.

744
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: And it was obvious.

745
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: You don't come out on weekends, you don't do this,

746
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: don't sit down and speak on podcasts or interviews. You

747
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 5: live in a bubble. He always lived in a bubble.

748
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: Governor's son went on to become a g went on

749
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Speaker 5: to become governor. And then there's another pattern that a

750
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 5: lot of people are ignoring what he feels about black

751
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: men who are elected. Nobody wants to talk about this.

752
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: He did it to Carl McCall. When Carl McCall ran

753
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: to be the first black governor, Andrew Cuomo got in

754
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: the race of sabotage his campaign. He did it to

755
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: Charlie King. Charlie King was running to be attorney general,

756
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 5: raised five million dollars, was one of the leading candidates.

757
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: He got in, pushed Charlie King out. He did it

758
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: to David Patterson. David was gonna run for re election.

759
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 5: He decided to sabotage his campaign and moved him out.

760
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: Now he's trying to do the same thing for me.

761
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 5: And like you said, your audience needs to really understand

762
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 5: what happened. I ran for independent. Everyone knew I was

763
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 5: running for independent. Everybody thought I was foolish for doing so,

764
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 5: not understanding that the only mayors that have won on

765
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Speaker 5: the independent line we sit at mayors.

766
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Speaker 4: We knew that Mundanni.

767
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Speaker 5: Was going to be on the general election ballot on

768
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: the Rooks family line. Why did and you throw his

769
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 5: name into it if he was in the primary. He

770
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: did it because he thought he could follow the same

771
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 5: process that he's done for a long time. So let's

772
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: look at the polls. The posts had him up for

773
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 5: forty points, forty points. He sent out a poll through

774
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: his staffers the day before the election that he was

775
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: up ten points. He lost by thirteen points. How could

776
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 5: we trust when you have an unexpected voting environment right now?

777
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 5: This voting, this vote is going to depend on new voters,

778
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 5: and everyone is talking about the energy on the Madonnie camp.

779
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: Nine percent of the voters, two point five million Democrats

780
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 5: having voted yet a million independents having voted Jets, several

781
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 5: hundred thousand Republics having voted Jet. Never in my history

782
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 5: of politics have I seen the energy around the stop

783
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: Madonnie movement coming from my bodega's owners, coming from my

784
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: small property owners, coming from my Jewish community, coming for

785
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: my former former Soviet and Socialist block constituents that are

786
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: here right now say they don't want to go backwards.

787
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Speaker 4: So I said it before.

788
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Speaker 5: If you look at some of the old tapes, I said,

789
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Speaker 5: this is going to be the most exciting male race

790
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: in the history of the city. I knew it in

791
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Speaker 5: seven eight months ago.

792
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Speaker 2: Politics.

793
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Speaker 3: That's right, Where were you actually the night of the

794
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: Democratic primary, and what was your reaction when mom Donnie won.

795
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: Were you like, oh, I expected this because of all

796
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Speaker 3: the reasons you just laid out about quota.

797
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think about it.

798
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: I think I was in the best sleeping I knew

799
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: what the outcome was going to be. I said six

800
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Speaker 5: months before the primary that Madonnie was going to win,

801
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: and all I had to do is wake up to

802
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: at an early day I had things to do in

803
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Speaker 5: the city, or I think we had a storm that day.

804
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: I could have been going around the city looking at

805
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 5: some of the rain sites. You know, you think about

806
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 5: I always use sports as an analogy. You know, I

807
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 5: have the crown, and just the thought that Andrew is

808
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: gonna tell the second sitting mayor, second mayor of color,

809
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: that I should step aside for him.

810
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the highest level of arrogance. You know.

811
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 5: During my difficult moments COVID, my LUSS asylum seeker love Fair,

812
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 5: I just stepped down and stepped up. I said, I

813
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: was elected to serve the city. No matter what I

814
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: had to face, I was gonna live up to my commitment.

815
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 5: He didn't do that. When it got hot, he left.

816
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 5: He abandoned his obligation for the City of New York.

817
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 5: I would never do that to the city. I didn't

818
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 5: abandon it as a police officer. I'm not going to

819
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: abandon it as the mayor.

820
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: You and are Producer care were the only two who

821
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: knew six months earlier that I'm down he was gonna win.

822
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Eric Adam, thank you so much for coming on odd lots.

823
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your chance to chat.

824
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 6: Thank you.

825
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: Thanks.

826
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: Can Joe call you if he sees a rat?

827
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well no, thank you so much.

828
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Speaker 7: I enjoying it, Tracy.

829
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Speaker 2: I'm glad we finally got a chance to speak to

830
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: the mayor. I've never talked to uh, never talked to

831
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: him before.

832
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: Uh No, neither have I. I'm enjoying this transition. I

833
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 3: do think it's a really interesting New York is obviously

834
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: a really interesting p tree dish in which to experiment

835
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: with a lot of economic policies, and it sort of

836
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: solidifies a lot of the trends we've been talking about

837
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: over the years, including affordable housing, taxation and things like that.

838
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: I liked your question about when is there some magic

839
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: line from which progressive taxation becomes socialism?

840
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 4: Right?

841
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: And I actually think like this is a question for

842
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people, including Mom, Donnie, etc. Is there

843
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: like what actually like constitutes like an acceptable or an

844
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: ideal level of redistribution because obviously, you know Mayor Adams

845
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: was talking about you know, yeah, socialism has failed everywhere,

846
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: as he asserted, and yet an important element of New

847
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: York City is the money that is raised from wealthy

848
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: New Yorkers do as you put it, you know, put

849
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: a put money back into people's pockets to make the

850
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: city more affordable.

851
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 3: Right, So at the moment that's optional. Billionaires can choose

852
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: to do it. But I mean, if you think it's

853
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: a good thing, then why not make it you know,

854
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 3: I mean potentially maybe mandatory at some higher level.

855
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And why does it have to just be billionaires,

856
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: because also there are a lot of people who are

857
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: not billionaires who are also very wealthy, and that everyone

858
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: just talks about billionaires, which I think is an important

859
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: element of this conversation. You know, I do think that

860
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: like there is a certain degree to which some of

861
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: the pathologies of the city or just take it as

862
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: like it's New York City and deal with it. And

863
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: this is like what you do. So it's like and

864
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: this is like, these are the costs. So of course

865
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: it is going to take years to figure out whether

866
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: we're going to use a specific plot of land that

867
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: is contested and turn it into housing. Of course it's

868
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: going to do is going to be a certain level

869
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: of public drug consumption and rats. Although the rats have

870
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: declined and broken bathrooms and stuff like that, it does

871
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: feel like in the discourse we just sort of accept

872
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: that because it's New York City, that there are certain

873
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: things that are just going to be like SuPAR or

874
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: actively hostile. Again, like from a family perspective, like, it

875
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 2: really is not good at all that it's so hard

876
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: frequently to find a bathroom in a public area.

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Speaker 3: I will just say here, I mean, other major cities

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Speaker 3: my mind also that New York still has this extremely

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Speaker 2: But anyway, there's plenty more to talk about. If you

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Speaker 2: wins reelection, we'll have them back on. Well, definitely, we'll

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Speaker 2: definitely have them back on to talk about how all

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Speaker 2: of these things are going?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Shall we leave it there?

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Speaker 2: Let's leave it there.

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