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Speaker 1: Submit and Bullshits next Door and Lasses. We've been podcasting

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Local Radio Season seven, Take us to your network,

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Speaker 1: Ala La Locomotives, Welcome back to look at That Our Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm the ASA and I'm Mala. In past episodes of

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Speaker 1: look at Our Radio, we've discussed the cancelation of some

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Speaker 1: And if you have any holiday stories, we of course

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Speaker 1: it's okay. Everyone we know and love has has AI

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Speaker 1: generated images, but not us. But not us. But we're

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Speaker 1: just we get it, we understand, we empathize. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: get it, we get it, we get it. We're just

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Speaker 1: saying that, like we've noticed a lot of conversation around it.

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Speaker 1: You know, things get really popular, they seem very um harmless, harmless,

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Speaker 1: and then people start digging and then the truth is revealed, right,

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Speaker 1: So apparently folks are upset, rightfully so because these AI

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Speaker 1: of scoured art online and pulled images from other artists

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Speaker 1: you know, different things about like artists being ripped off

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Speaker 1: going to the original artists to get it done and paying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw like some of our artist friends, like one

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be using them because they're scamming and stealing from artists.

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Speaker 1: If you want an illustration done of you, just pay

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Speaker 1: an artist, find an artist that you like, because there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of artists to do illustrations, are our designer,

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Speaker 1: graphic designer does illustrations. There's there's a ton of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a ton of artists out there if you want

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Speaker 1: that really beautiful illustration. AI is not always good. My friends,

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Speaker 1: watch any sci fi movie. It always ends not always good.

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Speaker 1: It always ends badly. And then folks are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we shouldn't. We should know by now

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Speaker 1: not to submit our faces to these platforms because who

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Speaker 1: owns it, who's behind it? What do they do with

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Speaker 1: your face and images of your face? You know, the like, um,

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Speaker 1: we see these videos pop up online of people doing

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Speaker 1: the deep fakes, you know, like using pictures of someone

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Speaker 1: like they're saying or doing things that they have not done.

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Speaker 1: You know. Like the technology is pretty advanced, so there's

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Speaker 1: like all these different things out there about like it's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: But then like, um, we've been putting our faces on

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Speaker 1: the internet, like on Instagram and TikTok like will for

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Speaker 1: a long time now, Like I think it's too late

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Speaker 1: for all of us. Also on the end of things,

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Speaker 1: you know, it definitely out there. Yes, we touched on

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Speaker 1: a lot today, y'all, So thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think of this episode. Let

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Speaker 1: us know what you think about all of the disappearing art, right,

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Speaker 1: it's like this, It is really really incredible, horrible contrast

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Speaker 1: of I think at the top of the conversation, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about art disappearing from platforms and then art being

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Speaker 1: stolen via AI. So dang, let us know, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot full circle. That's wild. Yeah, no, so true. Let

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