Speaker 1: Keep that. Hello the Internet edit.
Speaker 2: Welcome to this special Friday trending edition.
Speaker 1: Of Dirty Guys. Yeah, there he.
Speaker 2: Is, you might have. I'm hoping that he will keep it.
Speaker 2: You got to hear him take a big hit, big
Speaker 2: old hit right as we were starting. Uh, I'm Jack O'Brien.
Speaker 2: That over there is Brian the editor.
Speaker 3: Who's that? It's only me, Brian the editor?
Speaker 2: 'tis I chis only I coming to us all the
Speaker 2: way from Mexico dea Mexico City.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: One of the few pieces of middle school Spanish that
Speaker 2: I I think I retained. I don't even know if
Speaker 2: it's right though. It's that Mexico, Mexico, Okay, if you
Speaker 2: say so. But I think mister Vachiano, my Italian Spanish
Speaker 2: teacher who got mad at me once I started wearing
Speaker 2: cross colors clothes. Wow, I think he might know a
Speaker 2: little bit better than you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He just pulled me aside one day and was like,
Speaker 2: I used to think you're a good kid. To look
Speaker 2: at you, that is, to look.
Speaker 3: At you, that is a fucking trans I know.
Speaker 1: So now I think you were a punk.
Speaker 2: I think he literally used the word punk and it
Speaker 2: was my last day I was moving the next day,
Speaker 2: and he was like, I just want you to know
Speaker 2: on your way out. Anyways, at least he taught me
Speaker 2: the wrong name for Mexico City, Brian. We don't usually
Speaker 2: do trending episodes on Friday. I was at my keyboard
Speaker 2: last night furiously typing about some shit I'm seeing in
Speaker 2: response to the fires. But the main reason that I
Speaker 2: wanted to check in with people is, you know, Miles
Speaker 2: has been out all week. I wanted to let him
Speaker 2: kind of share what was going on with him and
Speaker 2: his family in his own time and in his own way.
Speaker 2: But he did tweet about it a couple of days
Speaker 2: ago and given me permission to share a couple of
Speaker 2: things with you guys. So first of all, just read
Speaker 2: his tweet. Hey everyone, the family is safe, but we
Speaker 2: unfortunately lost our home like countless others did in the
Speaker 2: eaton Knon fire. I will have more to say once
Speaker 2: I'm able to process things a bit, but for now,
Speaker 2: just wanted to let people know we are safe and
Speaker 2: we will find a way forward. Miles and yeah, we
Speaker 2: actually you know, I've been texting with him a lot, obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, their their safety was my number one concern.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people's number one concern, but
Speaker 2: this is just a real mind fuck and incredibly difficult
Speaker 2: to deal with. Uh, They're they're going through it. But
Speaker 2: as we were about to record this, uh, he happened
Speaker 2: to call so Brian and I got to got to
Speaker 2: speak with him. They just put up a h a
Speaker 2: gofund me this morning after a while of like kind
Speaker 2: of not knowing it, you know, feeling weird asking for help,
Speaker 2: but they they finally did, which I think is the
Speaker 2: right thing. And immediately, uh, you know, they're they're getting
Speaker 2: a lot of donations. They're well on their way to
Speaker 2: their goal. But we're gonna we're gonna put the link
Speaker 2: to the GoFundMe in the episode description of this episode,
Speaker 2: and you know, please if you can, if you have
Speaker 2: something to give, by all means. They're great people and
Speaker 2: just the the outpouring from the listeners.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Miles wanted to, uh wanted to thank all
Speaker 4: the listeners for all their kind words and support. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and uh just for being the you know, great people
Speaker 4: that Zey Gang are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're always.
Speaker 2: You know, we always talk about when it comes to
Speaker 2: like our listeners showing up to comedy shows for guests
Speaker 2: on the show who who have a comedy show and
Speaker 2: Zigang will show up and they're always like, man, you
Speaker 2: guys have like really great fans.
Speaker 3: And they're totally not weird at all.
Speaker 2: They're not weird. How did that happen? We don't know
Speaker 2: how that happened, because we're both.
Speaker 3: Very weird people.
Speaker 2: But we're always so proud when we just get a
Speaker 2: look at who you guys are in the community that
Speaker 2: we've built around this show, and uh, yeah, I'm so grateful,
Speaker 2: and my Alas was so grateful, and I was, you know,
Speaker 2: sitting there crying like a bitch as I We're not
Speaker 2: like a bitch, but I was sitting there, yeah, very
Speaker 2: high pitched and I just pleasant to listen to no.
Speaker 2: But yeah, thanks to everybody who is reaching out and
Speaker 2: you know, finding ways to help Miles and his family
Speaker 2: and a lot of the people who are you know,
Speaker 2: going through it right now because of these kind of
Speaker 2: unprecedented fires, the increasingly precedented fires. I will say, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, he said a lot, and I don't
Speaker 2: I wasn't taking detailed notes because again I was crying,
Speaker 2: but like trying to act like I wasn't so I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, totally, totally, man, he is going to
Speaker 2: be back when he can be so he'll he'll be
Speaker 2: able to speak to it himself. And then I did
Speaker 2: just want to talk about the people who aren't being
Speaker 2: that helpful when it comes to the crisis that La
Speaker 2: is living through.
Speaker 1: The fires.
Speaker 2: You know, as we record this on Friday, still the
Speaker 2: biggest ones are not contained. So some of them I
Speaker 2: think are zero percent contained, which seems like not the
Speaker 2: number you're looking for. But a lot of people, a
Speaker 2: lot of firefighters fighting valiantly out there, a lot of
Speaker 2: just Steph Curry from way downtown, water drops happening.
Speaker 1: Kobe Swish except not anyways, don't.
Speaker 2: I do just want to I do just want to
Speaker 2: continue to talk about this American need to find the
Speaker 2: singular villain, as long as that singular villain is not
Speaker 2: a wealthy fossil fuel executive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has.
Speaker 2: Been systematically poisoning and you know, creating the circumstances for
Speaker 2: what we're all experiencing and living through. That that would
Speaker 2: be I think, if if we're going to find a villain,
Speaker 2: there's your villain.
Speaker 3: These people who have who.
Speaker 2: Have buildings on college campuses named after them, you know,
Speaker 2: for having just made obscene amounts of money from the
Speaker 2: fossil fuel industry. Those are the people who we should
Speaker 2: be blaming.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna blame anybody, here's a novel idea. We
Speaker 4: could look out for each other and not try to
Speaker 4: constantly find a villain. Yeah, yeah, that's something I'd like
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and I do feel like there are some
Speaker 2: people who are doing that. But the way, and that's
Speaker 2: usually happening under the surface and not it's not being
Speaker 2: it's not happening in the media, and you know, the media.
Speaker 4: It's not narratively as exciting to help each other out
Speaker 4: and cool resources and all that stuff. It's much more
Speaker 4: exciting to have an action movie going.
Speaker 3: On in the fucking news.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, that's right. And social media has also been
Speaker 2: I don't know. I go back and forth on like
Speaker 2: the direction of media feels inevitable. I always tell this
Speaker 2: anecdote about how the inventor of the loud speaker blamed
Speaker 2: himself for the rise of fascism and and oh yeah
Speaker 2: that guy, and I think at the time he was
Speaker 2: doing that, it made sense to people because like one day,
Speaker 2: in order to reach a big group of people. You
Speaker 2: had to have a loud voice and stand on like
Speaker 2: a soapbox, like literally, that's where that comes from. And
Speaker 2: then somebody created a technology and now you know, they
Speaker 2: could reach an entire auditorium full of people.
Speaker 1: And he was like, that is my fault. Hitler is my.
Speaker 4: Bad, and which is funny because I mean radio, you know,
Speaker 4: was invented right around man.
Speaker 3: So I think he's big up in himself a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why it looks ridiculous, because
Speaker 2: in retrospect, it's like that was one tiny step along
Speaker 2: the path toward like mass broadcasting technology. But I also
Speaker 2: just always bring it up because I think, you know,
Speaker 2: as invisible as that seems to us, now, the invention
Speaker 2: of the loudspeakers, we're at a point where like social
Speaker 2: media basically like people are like, okay, it's kind of
Speaker 2: beside the point to make arguments about social media, but
Speaker 2: just some of the like fucking Henry Winkler, the Fonds,
Speaker 2: the book. I guess it was Thursday, and it was
Speaker 2: pretty early on Thursday too, you know, apparently got like
Speaker 2: truly existentially scared for the first time, and you know,
Speaker 2: seeing his friend's houses burned down and declared there's an
Speaker 2: arsonist on the loose in LA And it of course
Speaker 2: got like tons of play and like so many people
Speaker 2: in the comments being like, yes, finally somebody saying it,
Speaker 2: like so that the idea that it immediately took hold
Speaker 2: in the comments and around social media is like, not
Speaker 2: only was there an arsonist, but there was a conspiracy
Speaker 2: to say there wasn't a Narsenist. And because I guess
Speaker 2: they this is like part of the narrative that we
Speaker 2: want to blame climate and fossil fuel executives unfairly.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't, I truly don't know, like.
Speaker 4: What baffling Like, yeah, based based on what mister Fonzareli.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It seemed like he was implying
Speaker 2: he had a a secret source. I'm sure he. You know,
Speaker 2: wealthy people hang out with other wealthy people. They love
Speaker 2: to be like I know a guy who knows a thing,
Speaker 2: like who uh secretly knows that there is in fact
Speaker 2: yellow cake uranium in Iraq?
Speaker 4: You know, like he's like Ron Howard told me that
Speaker 4: his brother Clint saw guy with a flamethrower.
Speaker 2: Then they found a unhoused person with a blowtorch in
Speaker 2: the valley, and this, you know, seemed to confirm what
Speaker 2: everybody already wanted to believe, that it's actually.
Speaker 1: Poor people who are the problem.
Speaker 3: With fun house person get a blow torch.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: And that's like early what early reporting of a thing
Speaker 2: that it seemed like everybody already really wanted to believe.
Speaker 2: Like Andrew Huberman, do you know who that is? Has
Speaker 2: a massive podcast. He's like a Stanford PhD. But he's
Speaker 2: like now spent four years too many being told he's
Speaker 2: smart by everyone around him, and it's poisoned his mind
Speaker 2: and now he thinks he's like smart about everything.
Speaker 1: And so he took a.
Speaker 2: Video of like an empty lot and I think it
Speaker 2: was Santa Monica that had a fire in it and
Speaker 2: was like, they're starting fires out here, man, like geez,
Speaker 2: And someone in the comment was like, wait, I know
Speaker 2: those people they are in that video. They were they
Speaker 2: were there trying to fight that fire. But it was
Speaker 2: and you can like see the difference in the person
Speaker 2: pointing out like, oh no, that's me, that's that's my friend.
Speaker 2: We were trying to fight that fire with a garden
Speaker 2: hose until the firefighters got there. Uh, those people are
Speaker 2: being downvote, you know, their their comments are dead before
Speaker 2: they hit the feed. And then yeah, the comments that
Speaker 2: are like this is the conspiracy. They don't want us
Speaker 2: to know that it's actually drug addicts and unhoused people that.
Speaker 4: Are caused fire horny for like secret knowledge or like
Speaker 4: they're in some some sort of fucking club that knows
Speaker 4: more than everybody else and the secret.
Speaker 2: The wild thing about this conspiracy, The reason I'm so
Speaker 2: skeptical about Andrew Huberman's eyewitness testimony and the fonds Is
Speaker 2: testimony is it's a conspiracy that is protecting unhoused people
Speaker 2: and drug addicts, the people who have never once been
Speaker 2: protected and treated with any deference in the history of
Speaker 2: the United States. Like there's absolutely if there's a way
Speaker 2: to blame them, they are going to be blamed, trust
Speaker 2: you me. So anyways, after those initial reports. The other
Speaker 2: thing that's making me somewhat skeptical the police, who would
Speaker 2: love nothing you know, would love nothing more than a
Speaker 2: bad guy to pin this thing on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something to do.
Speaker 2: They're already, as we've talked about, like during past press conferences,
Speaker 2: they're already jumping into the press conference being like don't
Speaker 2: even think about it, and the press is like, we sorry,
Speaker 2: who are you talking. Don't even exactly don't even think
Speaker 2: about it, Okay, I'm just saying, do you mean like arsonists?
Speaker 1: Do you mean Luke? Don't no, don't don't even.
Speaker 3: Don't think about anything.
Speaker 1: Don't even think about anything. Please.
Speaker 2: That would actually help us a lot, you know, Like
Speaker 2: Andrew Huberman in his video is like on the phone
Speaker 2: with the police being like, hey, there's a fire here
Speaker 2: or the fire station. The police are coming. They apparently arrived.
Speaker 2: It is not a location where one of the fires started,
Speaker 2: so they were able to put it out, And like
Speaker 2: there's a Fox News article that is like, actually the
Speaker 2: police like say, there's no exact instances of arson, like
Speaker 2: that was before they found the one on housed guy
Speaker 2: with like a lighter or slash blowtorch. But they were like,
Speaker 2: there's none, there's no examples to support the fonds and
Speaker 2: Andrew Huberman, but like you know that they would fucking
Speaker 2: do anything to have that be true.
Speaker 3: I mean you can tell from that that press conference.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like looking at the context of that
Speaker 4: press conference is like why are you even here, Like
Speaker 4: either help or get the fuck out of the way,
Speaker 4: like no one's checking for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so horny for there to be a bad
Speaker 2: guy they can blame. They need it to coming. It's coming.
Speaker 2: There's going to be bad guys. There's going to be
Speaker 2: un house people that they're going to pin this on.
Speaker 2: I think there's already on somebody, But I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I would remain pretty skeptical that that is actually what's
Speaker 2: going on here, as opposed to the fact that there
Speaker 2: are all these fires starting all over the place. Because
Speaker 2: it is the most windy it's ever been, which seems
Speaker 2: to be the thing that drove the fires.
Speaker 4: That's a That's another thing where you can tell that
Speaker 4: everyone's brain is kind of broken. Not everyone, but people
Speaker 4: who are coming up with these wild ideas. I lived
Speaker 4: in LA for thirty five years. Yeah, fires number one
Speaker 4: are a part of life in southern California, Like there
Speaker 4: are fires that devastate eight people's lives every year.
Speaker 3: What's unusual about this.
Speaker 4: Is it's fucking January and this is hot. I cannot
Speaker 4: remember a time when fire season extended well into winter
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 3: This is highly.
Speaker 4: Unusual to messi rans that cause flash flooding. This is
Speaker 4: this is a flooding season, not a fire season.
Speaker 1: This is not fire season.
Speaker 4: This is not normal, and it just seems like peoples
Speaker 4: have this. It's like they memory hole. It's kind of
Speaker 4: like with the hurricane people during hurricane season, where it's
Speaker 4: like the government sent the blah and it's like, no, dude,
Speaker 4: this happens every year. It's just getting worse and more frequent. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and there's no one to blame in regards to this
Speaker 4: is a this is a thing that happens, but the
Speaker 4: frequency and the scale of this is highly unusual, and
Speaker 4: this is this is a climate disaster, Like, this is
Speaker 4: very not normal. Blaming unhoused people with lighters on them
Speaker 4: is fully delusional. And yeah, I get that it's a sexy,
Speaker 4: sexy idea to like turn this into like some sort
Speaker 4: of criminal investigation, but we're in we're in a really
Speaker 4: fucked up room, and acknowledging that is is it would
Speaker 4: be a huge step to addressing the actual issue. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 4: it's it's wild that people cannot accept the reality of
Speaker 4: the situation.
Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, it's it's very frustrating, and it just
Speaker 2: you know, I like the fact that it's the fonds, like, well, respected.
Speaker 2: I think liberal icon the Fonds, and like Andrew Huberman,
Speaker 2: like Stamford scientists, guy like these are the sorts of
Speaker 2: people that we used to be able to rely on.
Speaker 2: And now you know, I will say, all right, so
Speaker 2: fossil fuel. If we if we need to create villains,
Speaker 2: it's the fossil fuel executives who knew about the ship
Speaker 2: before anybody and then took that knowledge and used it
Speaker 2: to suppress the information. Also, just the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: so what we're seeing is a massive problem with the
Speaker 2: fact that for a long time we didn't let people
Speaker 2: publish stuff they thought they saw, right, Like, people would
Speaker 2: think they saw something and then they would go to
Speaker 2: a news room. They would you know that had a
Speaker 2: legal department that didn't want to get sued, and.
Speaker 3: They would vet stuff.
Speaker 2: They would have to vet stuff, and they wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to publish stuff without having it fact checked. And
Speaker 2: the reason that we had that system in place is
Speaker 2: because back when people could publish stuff, they thought they
Speaker 2: saw the world, believed in ghosts, and they thought they
Speaker 2: thought plagues were caused by like, you know, letting fresh
Speaker 2: air in and you know, demons and shit. So I
Speaker 2: just like I would also lump Mark Zuckerberg again. His
Speaker 2: new plan to not fact check because that is biased,
Speaker 2: is fucked up and probably going to take us into
Speaker 2: down a very bad path that we're already like well
Speaker 2: on our way down.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, man, it just you heard him, folks,
Speaker 4: the democratization of the news has ruined us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean kind of yeah. It really like.
Speaker 4: There are no arbiters. There are just people yelling into
Speaker 4: the void.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like this fire. Being in the midst
Speaker 2: of this fire and watching it, Like I'm talking to
Speaker 2: people the day after the Funds is like it's arsonists.
Speaker 2: People are like, yeah, I agree, people are being weird,
Speaker 2: but I did hear there's arsenists. I'm just like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't I don't think there's
Speaker 2: necessarily a way to put the whole social media genie
Speaker 2: back in the bottle.
Speaker 4: But you know, but if you got listeners, you know,
Speaker 4: if you listening to this show, you probably got a
Speaker 4: decent head on your shoulders. But if you got any
Speaker 4: goofy ass friends talking this nonsense, please check them what
Speaker 4: they talk about they talk about. Please please don't let
Speaker 4: please don't let these these weird ass. You know, I
Speaker 4: would say thoughts, but there's not a whole lot of
Speaker 4: thought put into them. Don't let this stuff go by unchallenged,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, if you if you hear people spouting
Speaker 4: nonsense like this, check your people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think like we're we're at such a weird place
Speaker 2: where like a lot of community has been destroyed, and
Speaker 2: then the one thing that gives you a feeling of
Speaker 2: being part of some larger hole or shared delusions is
Speaker 2: like yeah, shared delusions and like transmitting memes and ship
Speaker 2: like on on social media, like being part of social media,
Speaker 2: but it's like so toxic. It's just like and you
Speaker 2: get to be a neuron that's sending delusional messages to
Speaker 2: the shared brain that we're all part of. That that's
Speaker 2: how you get to be part of this large body
Speaker 2: of humanity that we're all part of. So it's yeah,
Speaker 2: the past few days have made me certain that in
Speaker 2: like one hundred years, looking back on the year twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, people will be like, oh, wow, the United
Speaker 2: States was the worst place you could have possibly lived
Speaker 2: at that moment in time.
Speaker 1: Like those people.
Speaker 2: Worked so hard, justified so much, burned so many calories
Speaker 2: on cognitive dissonance in order to live and die in
Speaker 2: a place that objectively was one of the worst places
Speaker 2: to live and die.
Speaker 3: And that hates you. That hates you, like yeah, that
Speaker 3: does not want to see you shine at all.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 2: Anyways, so that's my hope. Will take what we do
Speaker 2: have each other and uh, like I said, we will
Speaker 2: be linking off to uh the GoFundMe for Miles's family
Speaker 2: in the show notes.
Speaker 4: Yes, please only donate if you have the funds to
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 3: Don't put yourself out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if you if you can, Miles obviously will
Speaker 4: really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: But do not put yourself out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so many people have helped so much already, like honestly, like,
Speaker 2: please don't do anything that is going to make it
Speaker 2: too difficult for yourself.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you you guys that gang are great and
Speaker 4: we thank you for your support and your kind words. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, those are some of the things that are
Speaker 4: doing This Taco Bell story never that's and that's what
Speaker 4: we call it tease for Monday. That's uh uh, Brian
Speaker 4: antically made that up.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to find a Taco Bell story. All right,
Speaker 2: have a great weekend again. Thank you guys for being
Speaker 2: such a great community. We love y'all, and Miles loves
Speaker 2: you guys and really appreciate it to you and we'll
Speaker 2: talk to y'all on Monday.
Speaker 4: Have a great weekend, Bright, stay safe, take care of
Speaker 4: each other.