1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just keep a real stration right with No Jason, 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little bit rougher. I'm here for it. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Those who really believe in the American process, all of 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: us street shut No Jason. What's your girl? Tesla figure 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: O on the Black Effect podcasting that where name what's 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: happening to straight you is? This is Tesla figure O, 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: your girl bringing you a Instagram live that I did 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: with my brother Killer Mike. I wanted to do what 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: they say is killed two birds with one stone, so 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to share the live that I did with 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Michael render A k A Killer Mike to talk about 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: voting and black voters, and I thought this would be 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: a nice bonus to share with you. My apologies for 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: the audio not being as clear as you are used 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: to hearing with my phenomenal producers Marcy de Pina and 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Dwayne Crawford, but this is pulled from I G and 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to share it. I hope you enjoy it. 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: If you enjoy it, please leave review and let your 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: girl know everybody thank you so much for joining us 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: at the Black Kind of My Camera gotta just it 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: once he came in the Black News Channel I am 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Tesla and Figaro B and C contributor and tonight we 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: have an exclusive interview with rapper activists entrepreneur. We're the 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: host of the new Love and Respect Will Killer Mike 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: on PBS. My homie, my brother from another mother, the 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: one and the only Michael Renda a k A. Killer, Mike. 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: You doing it? I'm doing good? Was that a fly 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: intro though? Being that you know how to command to Mike? 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: So you introduced me so well, I gotta press with 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: myself right, well, you should be. You are an impressive brother. Well, 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me tonight. I don't 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: want to take much of your time. Is so important. 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I say this is an exclusive interview because although you 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and our friends we never did a one on one 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: people actually hearing our conversation. Yeah, exactly one of ones 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: on the phone. Yeah, So this is the first time 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: that you and ither people will hear our conversation what 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: we normally have on the back end. I don't know. 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: We want to tell them everything we say, but we 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: can try to. It might be a little bit too real. 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: But while I have you here, Mike, I want to 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of get straight to it. Um, there's a couple 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: of things we want to talk about in respect for 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: your time. But first, before I get into politics, tell 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: everybody about your new show. Love and Respect would kill 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: the Mike. Well, there's a lot of division, divisiveness, hatred 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: and this you're all going on on regular news agency. Right, 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like you belong to a tribe or a 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: team dependent on if you watch CNN or Fox and MSNBC. 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: And to me, it's just that's not what I'm about. Um, 51 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I can do that and go have a rap beef. 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: I think the people who watched the same news with 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: my grandmother should watch They should be more concerned with commonality, 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: with conversation, with mutual understanding. And I decided, instead of 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: complaining that it's not out there, to just go to 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: the source of what kind of helped me understand the 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: bigger world. When I was a kid, I grew up 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood called a car Heights Ademueal Community. It 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: was a neighborhood started by black people for black people, 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: so there were not many, if any white people at all. 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: I grew up in an all black universe where all 62 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: my heroes and villains look like me, and because of that, 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: my first kind of look into the outside world of 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: people who weren't like me was PBS, so it was 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: people like Fred Rogers, the Electric Company, ses Me Street, 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: and I said, what better place to take a show 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: called Love and Respect? And then public broadcasting. So we 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: just premiered in Atlanta. We're expecting to get picked up 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: next year in more markets. But Revolt TV also partner 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: with them. So on Fridays you can catch me um 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: at ten o'clock in ten thirty on WPB in Atlanta, 72 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: and in on Mondays you can catch me in the 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: evening is on Revolt TV, and you can check it 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: out and we can talk from a place of love 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: and respect. My inaugural show is Our Mayor, Keashing Lance Bottoms, 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: our sixtieth mayor, second female mayor. She did an amazing 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: job at showing people she's a human being. I think 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: a lot of times because she's like you, Tesma, She's 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: a brilliant, beautiful black sister. She's a little more conserved. 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: Right from my neighborhood, and you had the good girls, 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: and you know, you had kind of while on the 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: West Side. She definitely was one of the good girls, 83 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: but her mom was a hairdresser. Dad was a singer. 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: He had got locked up for for drugs when she 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: was a young person. That split her family apart. She 86 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: pledged her herself to use education or reunite her with 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: her friends and grow, and she did that. So you 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: really got a chance to see girl as a human being. 89 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: My second show is gonna be with Big Boy this Friday, 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: who is in a stupid businessman. He's an icon not 91 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: only within music but street fashion and where. So you 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: get a chance to kind of see Big as the 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: dad and now it's now like a cool grandpa. And 94 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: I think that people are enjoy seeing that. So my 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: show is about showing the humanity of people and about 96 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: doing that in a loving and respectful way versus telling 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: people to join my team and bass on those Yeah, 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: that's that's what a lot. What I think your strongest quality. 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: You have an ability, uh to talk to various different 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: people and can articulate the message though that people can understand. 101 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: You moved through hip hop, you moved through business being 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: a business owner. They're in Atlanta, Florida. Actually I mean 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: not Atlanta. Just said Atlanta, Florida, Atlanta, Georgia. You know, 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: actually putting people to work and being able to merge 105 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: those two worlds together and doing it in a way 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: that is not disrespectful. Michael, You're not always tell you 107 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: very proud of you, UM really being able to articulate 108 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: the message in an important way, because what a lot 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: of people don't understand is you have been an activist 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: since fifteen years old. Correct, Yeah, yeah, I was. I 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: was an activist before I was a rapper or businessman. Well, 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: unless you count selling petty drugs. I tried that import 113 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: team and work out there. Well, I've been an activist. 114 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: UM sitting with a group called Black Teams Advancement, which 115 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: was a group and when violence was really starting to 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: pop off at our high school. Uh, former city councilperson 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Quansa Hall, who was in a high school senior, him 118 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: and his homies got us little homies together and they 119 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, y'all gonna stop this because it's leading 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: too much valance. So you guys are gonna get together 121 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and mediate these things and end this valence or we're 122 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna beat you all ads. And to be honest with you, 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: two little homies we started sitting down at the table 124 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: and talking our beasts out and it saved a lot 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: of lines. On from there, I met a woman named 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: Alice Johnson who was an organizer UM out of Chicago 127 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: and West Virginia. She was she was a white woman, 128 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: she was a social activist, and she was one of 129 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: the first people that showed me truly not what an 130 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: ally was but a co conspirator. Alice, much like you, 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: was fearless. She thought that you don't organize for people. 132 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: You organize with people. So the people that are that 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: have the problems that they're not on the board, then 134 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: you don't have a bullet trying to help him. You're 135 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: just trying to do some charity work to feel good 136 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: about yourself. She's the first person to introduce me to 137 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Reverend James Orange, who was a member of s CLC 138 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: and organized with Dr King. So I've been training organizing 139 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: by the people who organized directly with Dr King and SCLC, 140 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: directly with the Double A c p UM, directly with SNICK. 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: And if it hadn't been for her and people like 142 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: James Orange, I wouldn't be here so long before I 143 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: was a rapp rising organizers. My wife always remind me 144 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: that rapping is my job. So I got a really 145 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: good job. But it also has given me a platform 146 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: now that help mobilize people on behalf of organizers that 147 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: are still on the field or not absolutely, and that 148 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: goes right into the first topic. I'm want to talk 149 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: about your mission before you say that, because this is 150 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: what um you know. Today. As a side note, we 151 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: were able to see you know, Julius Jones have the 152 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: board uh is recommending his clemency. And one of the 153 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: things I posted on my page for those are listening 154 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: to my page is actually at Tesla figua I haven't 155 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: pinned out and also killing Mike page for those of 156 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: you who are joining from BNC. But one of the 157 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: things I pointed out was that how it is so 158 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: important that we have strategy, and you know, you and 159 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: I talked about this all the time. You know, people say, well, 160 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, entertainers don't matter when they speak up, or 161 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: marching doesn't matter, or protest doesn't matter, or old Tesla, 162 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: you're just talking on TV, it doesn't matter. Or when 163 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm training somebody it doesn't matter. And you and I 164 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: talk a lot about having a collaborative effort, of strategic 165 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: effort and what I call push the line and you 166 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: call organized strategized, mobilized, plot and playing. I'm saying it 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: out of order, but it's all the same thing. But 168 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: one of the things I wanted to point out to you, 169 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and I always say this, and this, this really hits 170 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: home when you talked about allies. And you know, I 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: tell folks all the time that there are different levels, 172 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, to the game. And you do a wonderful 173 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: job on allies, bringing in partners people of color, white, whatever, Jewish, Italian, whatever. 174 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: You do a great job of bringing allies into the 175 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: political folk. And it's so interesting because I actually my 176 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: staff and firm that I owned in Orlando with three 177 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: hundred employees, what's called the Allied Group. And so in business, yeah, 178 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: it was actually called the Allied Group, and our mission 179 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: was said that we're horizontal organization and nobody's above or 180 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: beneath the community, our clients and our candidates. Because it 181 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: was a staffing firm, guy's our direction. So in business, 182 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: I was very much about being an ally. In politics, Mike, 183 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: I find myself being a soldier also was in the military. 184 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I was an M sixty gunner in the military. And 185 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: I say this because I want to bring this point home. 186 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna give the mic back to kill 187 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: the mike. But I believe that there's roles in politics. 188 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: We have allies that you talk about, We have accomplices 189 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: that our sisters shout out to. To mak A Mallory 190 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: with Until Freedom, you and her were on the stage 191 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: together at the Grammy Awards and she talked about accomplices, 192 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: which is folks as riding along. You know, always give 193 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the analogy from the hood riding along in the car 194 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: with you and they're driving you to the spot, but 195 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily put in the work. But where I 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: feel my role is being a soldier, which is why 197 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: my podcast is called straight Shot No Chaser, meaning that 198 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: we also need soldiers. We need a small a group 199 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: of folks that are willing to put their fingers, their 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: DNA all up in it and willing to risk it all. 201 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: So with all three of those things, allies, accomplices, and soldiers, 202 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: I think we can move forward. So with that said, 203 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts on that, and then 204 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: I want you to explain how that ties into my strategy, 205 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: which is pushed the line politics until something happens, and 206 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: into your mission, which is plot plan strategized, organized, and mobilize. Yeah, 207 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: but well you push the line into something that happens. 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: If if you, for me, were pushing the line, that 209 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: just means, hey, you you're not You're not gonna stop 210 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: that you're not gonna stop. That's one thing when you 211 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: said when you when you when you look at on 212 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: the street perspective, you say, man, am I gonna am 213 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: I gonna engage this person? You have to say, man, 214 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: this this person gonna push the line on the like 215 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: what does that mean? That means that nothing's gonna be safe. 216 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna scorch the earth to make it happen. So 217 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: if I engage this person, I have to make sure 218 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: all the way that means if I'm on the seat 219 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: next to this person, because you then and ain't enough 220 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: just to be an accomplished I gotta be a conspirator. 221 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: When you arride with somebody that's gonna push the line. 222 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: You got to know when I get in this call, 223 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: I ain't trade. I don't get to say let me 224 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: get out. You know what I mean? This thing all 225 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: the way or this hold you're gonna go on me 226 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: with me with plot playing, strategized, organized, and mobilized. What 227 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm seeing is, you know, first you plot something out, 228 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: you think it's just a good idea. Then you get 229 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: with other people you're playing, then you strategize, you come 230 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: up with what is a real strategy. If I show 231 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: up and I sit on the lunch counter and I 232 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: allow people to pour things on me, and I allow 233 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: them to do the world to see how ugly that 234 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: he is, that's a moral compass. To show the world 235 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: that things he could change. America gets embarrass that changes. 236 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: If you still trying to do that modus sixty years later, 237 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: then I can guarantee you they've already out organized around that, 238 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: and now they might even be using your thing to say, well, 239 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: this is reversing. So Dick Gregory told me until he 240 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: cuts me until it for about forty five minutes, I'm 241 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: talking to my wife on my side with me and 242 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: t I first met Seve Gregory. We got on on 243 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: the phone. When we say hey, it's the Gregory ship. 244 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: We mare it's all attracted. He said, Nigga, we did. 245 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: That's extre is. And don't what the hellerg Nigga's talking 246 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: about because I'm black out, and what I understood at 247 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: the end of that conversation is pushing the line means 248 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: that I'm going to constantly be willing to reinvent what 249 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing to push the line. I'm constantly going to 250 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: engage them. When I say plot, planing, strategize, organized, and mobilize. 251 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Organized is probably the most powerful word in that. I've 252 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: been watching a lot of stokely car Michael the Crumbie 253 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: tour ad this week, and he always came back to 254 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: the same thing. Black people across the globe need to 255 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: be in a constant state of organization. Every time I 256 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: talked to Tesla, figure O, I am met with the 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: greeting I love your brother. I met with this is 258 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: what's happened, this is what I'm encouraging. But I met 259 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: with a challenge to organize. What are we doing on 260 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: the ground level? Boost in the ground? Organized? And I 261 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: am a mobilizer, meaning although I'm not on the day 262 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: to day basis organized and next to TESLAA Tesla make 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: sure that I'm educated about what is going on. Others 264 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: and including j B who's the brother out of Tulsa, 265 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: Um who's a rapper who first let me know about 266 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: the junior case. Brothers like Um Mr check point out there. 267 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: These people make sure I'm informed and when it's time 268 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: for me to get people in best in my Alabama 269 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: to talk about what's going on in an Amazon factory, 270 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: they make sure I have the information to help mobilize 271 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: to get people there. And in his in his greatest 272 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: of heydays, It's important to understand that Dr King, although 273 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: was was an organizer with the s CLC, what he 274 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: grew into was one of the greatest mobilizes this country 275 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: has ever seen. So when we say, especially in the 276 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: Black community, um, celebrities don't have a place in this 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: the only reason I knew who Malcolm is because Malcolm 278 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: is if they often use a cult clip of Malcolm 279 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: critiquing the fact that we use comedians and stuff to 280 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: to get people together. I'd like to say if it 281 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: wasn't for people like Muhammad Ali that some of the 282 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: some of the message Japan Africanism wouldn't have gotten now 283 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: after he joined the Nation of Mislam. And actually, if 284 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't for people like did Gregory, Malcolm's legacy would 285 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: not have lived on. If it wasn't be entertainments like 286 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: Spike Lee that did a movie. No matter how you 287 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: feel about that movie and pique my interest was one 288 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: of the reasons that I started reading about him. But 289 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I want to tell people this, Arnold Swarzenegger was an 290 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: act Ronald Reagan, who they call the greatest president ever, 291 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: was in that. When you look at John Wayne and 292 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Charlton Heston, who was the head and once at one 293 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: time the inn al right, both were actors. Sonny Bono 294 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: as an actor. Al Franken is an actor. And I 295 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: can go own and on and on with a lot 296 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: of people that a white destituency and conservatives constituency and 297 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: especially has used celebrity to mobilize people on their behalf. 298 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: And what I'd like to encourage us to do is 299 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: do less less slander of of of of of athletes 300 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: and entertainments and more education. We have to do what 301 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Fred happened does. You have to brought it down to 302 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: ten specific points that are so simple. What you give 303 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: it to little baby, dub Baby or even some third 304 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: graders sun babies. That is easily type, easily digested, and 305 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: it's easily done, just easy understood and easy to get 306 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: back out there. So rather than slandering one another, resent 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: put each other down, let's come up with a very simple, 308 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: effective ten points, and let's start to educate one another 309 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: so that we get on point. So that when I 310 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: organized our leaders like Tesla and Figura already, you get 311 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: mobilizers like me that comes that next to her, make 312 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: sure the crowd is there, say my piece, and then 313 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: give the stage to Truity, the organizers that are going 314 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: to give us instruction. Yeah, and I think that's where 315 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: of the disconnect is. You are okay with passing the mic, 316 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: but what we've seen and this is not what celebrities 317 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, just elected leaders who have just become 318 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: comfortable and leading every discussion when we I don't know 319 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: why we're so anti actors because to me, almost everybody 320 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: in in politics is an actor, especially this congress that 321 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing right now. That's right, these are Oscar Award 322 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: winning actors. In fact, we need a whole a whole 323 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: new award section for those that act the best. But 324 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: with that said, it is it is really the ego 325 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: um that is the challenge where people don't want to 326 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: move aside. And it's so disappointing because we're not asking 327 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: you to move out the way, We're just asking you 328 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: to pass the mic so that when we always say 329 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: each one, teach one, everybody can be touched, everybody doesn't 330 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: hear the same message for the same people. We have 331 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: to be able, um, to have various messages, talk to 332 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: various demographics to touch them all. Shout out for BNC 333 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: News for allowing me even to have you know, this conversation. 334 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: This would never happen on an MSNBC, A CNN or 335 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Fox News. No this to anybody, But I don't see 336 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: I G handles being lent to folks at least like 337 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: me and you to have a very candid conversation, not 338 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: telling us what you can and cannot say. So again, 339 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: black media is important those platforms, but we still need 340 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: to be to be able to go over the PBS 341 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: like you're doing or when I go to Fox News. 342 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: We still have to get all of those, all of 343 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: those platforms dominated and understand that we have different perspectives. 344 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: So with that said, I want to get straight into 345 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: the politics and some things because again I know we're 346 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: going on top time tomorrow is a big election race. Um. 347 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: We could go on and on about if the plotting 348 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: and the planning and the organizing was on point, because 349 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: really we were to have this conversation, we would go 350 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: all the way back when I became an independent voter, 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: uh in two thousand twelve, when Democrats lost. Then what 352 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: people are seeing Mike for the first time is a 353 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: repeat of what happened last time. But the thing is 354 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: the differences. People were so in love with Barack Obama 355 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to hear anything I had to 356 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: say about the lack of organizing that was going on 357 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: on the ground. Barack Obama did a president, Barack Obama 358 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: did a magnificent job, would organize for America, but people 359 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: did not necessarily learn how to implement that on the ground. 360 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: And so when you have a lack of organization, when 361 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: you have a lack of planting seeds, why should we 362 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: expect a harvest tomorrow? So give us your thoughts on 363 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: um on that, and then I want you to talk 364 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: about how Virginia, how do you see Virginia really laying 365 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: the groundwork? And just as the point of clarity, Virginia 366 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: has always lost whatever power was in office, Virginia has 367 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: uh always went in the opposite direction. However, except when 368 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Terry Terry ran the last time he actually did, I 369 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: was able to keep the same power in Congress. So 370 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: tell us what do you see uh for Virginia and 371 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Not just people know are very 372 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: familiar with you being a seragan from Bernie Sanders and 373 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: a progressive, but people also don't understand that you can 374 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: have a conversation outside of that. What do you see 375 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: Virginia as being the telltale sign on what we should 376 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: expect in two thousand and twenty two? And is it 377 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: because we did not or they did not follow the 378 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: philosophy of Fred Hampton? Well, yeah, because you don't. Democrats 379 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: have done have done an amazing job at calling their 380 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: girl for their from burbial girlfriends at two or three 381 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: in the morning and not delivering anything for their birthday. 382 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, there there's a there's a phenomenon that when 383 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: they're in trouble, they come out and they say, hey, 384 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: we're in trouble. We need you to flip Georgia, we 385 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: need you to flip Texas, and we got something for 386 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: you when we've done. What you have for me is 387 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: never clearly defined, is usually reactionary in some kind of ways, 388 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: saying protect us, it's very often not affirmative, and saying 389 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: this is what we want and this is what we deserve. 390 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: And I think that Virginia may suffer because of that, 391 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: UM and beyond Virginia may suffering, I think in two 392 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats are prepping to get beat pretty badly. Because 393 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: when you have a woman I saw on Sunday Sunday 394 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Morning News UM say that I can't afford to get 395 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: two gallons of milk for my babies a week because 396 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: gallons of milk and now five dollars. When when you 397 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: see people, whether the headlines are true or not, when 398 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: a headline runs that says forty five billion promise to 399 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: HBC used two billion on is only only two billions 400 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: get into them? Wasn't that's inflammatory or not? If you're 401 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: not ahead of the story to say this has happening, 402 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: both feel bad. Oftentimes, when I talked to candidates locally, 403 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: what I say to them is if and win elected, 404 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: what wins are you going to give people early? Because 405 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: people need affordable house people need to know that something 406 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: is being done about homeless as people need to know 407 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: that jobs are coming. And if you don't do that, 408 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: then people are gonna feel like they've wasted their time. 409 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna get apathetic to the political process. So, although 410 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: I hope I don't see that in Virginia, the danger 411 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: is there, although I hope I don't see that. In 412 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: two the danger sold there at the gym. Clyde bowing 413 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: Um has popped back up out of South Carolina, this 414 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: time not the sabotage anyone's campine, but to say, oh 415 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: ship boss, we in tromp and if it were, if 416 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: we're saying that now, then we have to start saying 417 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: if we're not going to whoop them locally or state 418 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean state wide and nationally, what can we do locally? 419 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: So I'm for everyone to not worry as much about 420 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Virginia if you're not going to Virginia to help my 421 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: boots on the ground, if you're not actively putting out 422 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: positive stuff encouraging people online, and if you're not active, 423 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: if you're not actively able to get there and influence, 424 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: focus on us going on around you. Because in Atlanta 425 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: right now, we have a very hot mayorial races going on, 426 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: and it's not the fact that the mayorial race is 427 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: hot because policy is getting discussed. To me, it's become 428 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: a mustling in affair. It's become something very dirty um 429 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: and it's going to hurt black candidates in this city, 430 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: is this city becomes less black in the up and 431 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: coming elections to come in the next twenty years. I 432 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: think it's wrong. The type of um, the type of 433 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: campaigns that I'm seeing run, I think it's ugly, and 434 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I think that there's something that's going to come back 435 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Karmen to bite us in our food. In Atlanta, I'm 436 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: seeing mayorial candidates approached by old mayors inciting it in 437 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: some way because of association. These people are rough. When 438 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: I could easily say the same thing about that mayor, 439 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm seeing Mayor or your candidates stand next to people 440 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: who are Trump supporters, obvious white supremacy. They have not 441 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: seen a fair election in forty years. In mind you, 442 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: we've had people like Maymie Jackson, Google him and the 443 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: young group him able to bring economic prosperity to the 444 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: whole and make sure that our community was taken care of. 445 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: And I think that we're making a big mistake aching 446 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta in the way we're campaigning. So I pour other 447 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: black cities like Charlotte, Columbia, um Jacksonville, Tampa, Birmingham to 448 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: look at the mistakes that are being made now. Because oftentime, 449 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: after miss McConnell and Nacy Pelosi talked about each other 450 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: after words the day after they are on the same 451 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: board meetings that we're not in it besides infrastructure, that 452 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: we're not in Like it was tell y'all she was like, hey, y'all, 453 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: we didn't finished fight, and we didn't got everybody elected, 454 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and none of us at the table, the side where 455 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: the money goes. If we don't start getting in the 456 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: room by ourselves to say what's this gonna look like 457 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: for our community? If we only start wanting and keep 458 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: running about ego and title and prominence, then we're gonna 459 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: lose those seats. We're gonna lose real footing in our 460 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: ability to help our community. And it's all want to 461 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: be because of pride and ego and lack of organizing. 462 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: What Tesla tells us on a constant basis is we 463 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: must be boots on the ground, pushing the line organizing. 464 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: That is the exact same thing that Plumbatori said to us. 465 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: What she also says that there are certain things we 466 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: don't need to involve ourselves. Being certain public debate is 467 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: not about us step to yourself private to get with 468 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: your neighborhood units, get what your city council people, and 469 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: do what George Jackson appolled you to do. Get you 470 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: a secret army, Get you a secret army of voters together, 471 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: get your secret shooting club together, Get you a secret 472 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: fruit and vegetable bottling club together. But I'm telling you, 473 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: if we do not do for self, we're gonna be 474 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: are the only ones on the outside of the gates 475 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: while everybody else in the city feast. And then the 476 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: next two or four years and we're gonna regret it, 477 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be turning around look by allies and 478 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna be gone. We're gonna be looking at the complies. 479 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: They're gonna be donna win fair and tying rat on us. 480 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: And if we have any coded spiritus, they're gonna be 481 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: few and far swings because they're gonna be their hall 482 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: um for all a tree already to scare us. So 483 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you get about your ship, because if you're 484 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: not about your ship in two the Republicans are definitely 485 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: gonna be shp in on that perfect analogy. You don't 486 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: I encourage people local, you know, if if if federals 487 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: is is frustrating you again, local racist city races, a 488 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: city commissioner, mayor. We're only talking about four or five 489 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: people in most cities, seven people, ten people. Some of 490 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: the largest cities may have ten or twelve in in 491 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: or in um in Orlando, with six commissioners and a mayor, 492 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: that's a lot of power. So when you're trying to 493 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: figure out, well, hey, how come Corey Bush can't get 494 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: them to do this, So how come Bernie Sanders can't 495 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: get them to do do this? And a body of hundreds 496 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: of people that represent people all over the country. Get 497 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: involved in your local races, and you'll be surprised on 498 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: what can actually happen. I'm always trying to do training. 499 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: I want to give this plug to everybody. I'm always 500 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: trying to do free training. My goal is to have 501 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: a thousand people boots on the ground by mid turns 502 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: next year to get some type of game, some type 503 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: of knowledge, because I think we we don't do enough 504 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: political education. We do a lot of forums and interviews 505 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: and talks, but I'm really trying to do that. I'm 506 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to working with you next year on some 507 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: things when it comes to actually voter education as well. 508 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna do that. We're definitely gonna do a push 509 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: the line plot plan strategized cold. I think that you 510 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: are one of the most able and willing teachers there. 511 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: If my if my presence help mobilizing, not only my presidence, 512 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: my money, because we're gonna scholar shield some people in Atlanta. 513 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: I don't want you using money as an excuse not 514 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: to come. We're gonna get some books on the ground, 515 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: organizers with you, and we're gonna organize. It doesn't ultimately 516 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: matter to me what the people decide. It matters that 517 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: the people decide and decide from a place of education. 518 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I've long been telling people that I honestly think there's 519 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna be some type of split. I think you're gonna 520 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: see black household split. I think you're gonna start to 521 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: see black men go to a more conservative voting base 522 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: because a lot of their reward they're seeing. And this 523 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: is what I'm getting in the barbershop, they fayed up 524 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: with this. I vote for you, an't get ship ship. 525 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: And I think that those men, before they make this 526 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: drastic decision to go all the way the other side, 527 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: that they need to understand what being independent can do. 528 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: They need to sit in the room with Tenselent and say, well, 529 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: how can the twenty black men affect an election in 530 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: one of the war I mean, and one of the 531 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: sorrows in Atlantic And I think that if we started 532 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: doing these small victories and these small victories, started expecting 533 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: things on a small level, then you start to see 534 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: bigger change. Now give you an example. There's a woman 535 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: named Chief Judge josh A. Jackson in the cab County. 536 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: I knew Chief Judge josh Jackson was gonna be chief 537 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: judge when was eleven years old, because when he was 538 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: eleven years old, she was pushing the line on ours already. 539 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: She was like, we going to college, You're gonna do this. 540 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. This is an eleven years old. 541 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Her last two years of high school, she struggled with homelessness. 542 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Her and her mother, we did not have any idea. 543 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: Her last two years. She was like, Michael, I'm dyslexic, 544 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to write my paper. She said, 545 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: you write it out, don't you worry about it. I'll 546 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: type it out, type my papers out. Made so I 547 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: got into college with more house. He went up to Buffalo, 548 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: went to topic. She's now chief judge. She started a 549 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: program to end recidivism where she allowed people who may 550 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: have been called up in bullsh into her court to 551 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to take a year to change their 552 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: life instead of going to jail. Miss our Lee, who 553 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: was a woman who was in the juvenile court in 554 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Pullton County for was was appointed to a position by 555 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Republican government, is very progressive. Woman from juvenile court was 556 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: a point. So Chief Judge Josh Jackson as a woman 557 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: who grows up those are Frederick Douglas High schools, comes 558 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: out he's a lawyer. Now judge creates a program that 559 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: gets picked up by progressive woman that's appointed by a 560 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: conservative governor. This program, now, instead of men getting and 561 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: women getting out of jail with twenty five bucks and 562 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: a sack of close, get out with resources to help 563 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: them really get in acclimated towards society and become citizens again, 564 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: and not just for citivism members again. This is the 565 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: power of doing things on a local level. So I 566 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: impoor people as you get caught up in the national fervor, 567 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: right as you get caught up in what's happening in 568 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Virginia and DC in those places. Don't forget what's going 569 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: on ten blocks around you, because you whatever you're doing 570 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: in your city can become the prototype for other cities 571 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: to use become better for their citizens and more progressive. 572 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: One other example I give you is Mayor Ted who 573 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: was in one of the smallest municipalities in the state 574 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: of Georgia, Alan Clarkston. He decriminalized marijuana full two or 575 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: three years before city like Atlanta did, and thankfully under 576 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: the city council at that time in America, seeing read 577 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: they followed his plan. They also decriminalized me or one 578 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: up to announce and it has allowed a lot of 579 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: kids who are in college you would have lost their scholarships, 580 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: the ability to stay in school, and has lost a 581 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of black men and women who would have lost 582 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: their jobs, the ability to keep their jobs and take 583 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: care of their families. I think it was one of 584 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: the wisest decisions he did his mayor, and I look 585 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: forward to more wise decision coming on the local level 586 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: because people understand. People are ready to be more progressive 587 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: on the ground here. Absolutely, and even when you see 588 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: with the City of l a is doing pushing some 589 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: of the most progressive police reform. When you look at 590 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Colorado completely ignored, you know, a state that actually ended 591 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: qualified immunity, has one of the most progressive UH police 592 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: reformed policies in the country. When you look at Houston, 593 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: what Houston has done with a black mayor. Houston is 594 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: number four, fourth largest city in the country. And you 595 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: look at the fact that he banned Choko's immediately after 596 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: George Ford was murdered. When you look at he actually 597 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: created an easier way to report UH police misconduct, you know, 598 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: using technology which you don't see on the federal level. 599 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: When you look at the fact of that he has 600 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: put in place about body cameras, pushing twenty four hour voting, 601 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: all of those things were done with the snap of 602 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: the finger. Because at the local level, it is the 603 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: executive branch. There is no Joe Mansions, there is no cinemas, 604 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: There is no thousands of people, you know, to get 605 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: to determine. It's usually about six or seven or ten 606 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: or fifteen that make a decision and you can push 607 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: the line. And when I go over training, when I 608 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: get into that, I show people how a lot of 609 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: these states Mike, you and I talked about the other days. 610 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: You were like, Wow, we're talking about I was telling 611 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: you about Compton, and I was saying, even though you 612 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: have six hundred thousand people register vote, it's only ten 613 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: twenty thousand people that come to the post. Some cities, 614 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: I've even seen five thousand, four thousand, one thousand that 615 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: actually come to the polls. So it doesn't re wire 616 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot of numbers to get to the post 617 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: to actually win. And so on Thursday, just another shout out, 618 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing a question and answer. I have a whole 619 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: training program called are You're gonna run for office? Or 620 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: run your mouth? And on Thursday a p M on 621 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: my Instagram Live, I am answering questions, questions and answers 622 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: um to give you more tools on what you need 623 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: to do to run because a lot of folks will 624 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: put their name on the battle and be surprised. Shout 625 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: out to commission and Regina Hill, who is running again 626 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: to be re elected tomorrow. She was arrested Mike twenty 627 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: one times, was a felon. I ran her campaign as 628 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: director UH Communications in two thousand fourteen and she won 629 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: the first time out beat a sixteen year legacy incumbent. 630 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: So I know what can be done. She's as real 631 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: as it gets. It don't get no realer. They can 632 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: they can say whatever they want to say about it. 633 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: But one thing about Regina Hill, She's about getting to work. 634 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: So I will talk about that at another time. But 635 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, I do you touched 636 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: a little bit on black men and that that was 637 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because that's the last point 638 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: I want to drive home. And for those in the comments, 639 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: my Instagram page is at the bottom pinned, and so 640 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: was Killer Mike. So if you're joining us from the 641 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: BNC family, please follow my brother Killer Mike. Those who 642 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: are joining from the Killer Mike's page piece please follow me. 643 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: Tesla and fig grow down and is pinned at the bottom. Again. 644 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: Shout out to BNC News for making this happen. My 645 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: last question to you, Mike, you mentioned black men, and 646 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: so I want to ask you. You said, you know, 647 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: black men are getting tired and fed up. And one 648 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: of the things that we see as we talk about 649 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: black voters, we know that black men are included in 650 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: black voters because obviously black voters are black men and 651 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: black women. But there has been conversation and particularly in Atlanta, 652 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: on how black men and all over the country, but 653 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: I want to speak specifically to Atlanta because obviously that 654 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: was who was courted the most and dated the most, 655 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: and you know, went did put so many resources into 656 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: flipping Georgia. But black men are feeling I'll ask you, 657 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: are they feeling left out? Is it they left out? 658 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: Because maybe the media has a fear of black men. 659 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: Are they left out? Because honestly, black women do vote 660 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: in higher numbers, but we know they can vote to 661 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: higher numbers for several reasons. One of them is voted suppression. 662 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: But are they left out because, like you said, they 663 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: kind of like, forget it. I don't want to be 664 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: a part of that anymore. Why are black men feeling 665 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: left out? And two? Is there something we can do 666 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: about it? And to my sisters, are you willing to 667 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: allow black men to lead? You know there's always a 668 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: conversation black women lead, black women leading. I'm all about 669 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: that because for far too long black women have not 670 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: had a chance to lead. But we also complain that 671 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: black men are not leading enough households. So my question 672 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: to you is can black men lead their house and 673 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: for ladies? Before you get mad and start adding me 674 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: understand that when we are voting, much like white men, 675 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: the household votes, and if black men are leading their households, 676 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: you're usually following that black men because that black men, 677 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: because that's sir. And what white women do, they follow 678 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: their white men, which is why so many white women 679 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: voted for Trump. So I want to ask you those 680 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: questions three things. Why are black men feeling left out? 681 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: Are they left out by choice? Or is the media 682 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: making it that way? And three is the black community 683 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: prepared for black men lead? Well, black men are being 684 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: left out because we're being left out purpose. Black men 685 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: do come out and vote, We vote over nine Democrat. 686 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: And when I'm talking about black men now, I'm specifically 687 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: talking about black working class men. Those men that I 688 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: see standing in the line in their work uniforms before 689 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: and we're doing lunch and after. Those men deserve acknowledgement. 690 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: Those men deserve praise, and those men deserve something for 691 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: their vote. So I'm gonna say that to all politicians. 692 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: If you do not start paying attention to the black 693 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: worker class man, you're gonna see even greater absences in 694 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: the black vote because they're part of the Black vote. 695 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Because you're not servicing them. When you talk as a 696 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: southeastern or right running for governor or running for mayor 697 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: and you speak against safe, for instance, the A R 698 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: fifteen rifles. When you speak against that and I live 699 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: in Camilla, Georgia, or I live in Brunswick, Georgia, or 700 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: I live in North Florida, You're probably losing my vote 701 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: as you say that national policy because I have to 702 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: live next to the people with the seventy five ft 703 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: rebel flags hanging above the their one. And I'm not 704 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: gonna live there and not have a rifle. There's no way. 705 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: So you need to understand the nuance and how to 706 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: talk to me. You need to help me understand why 707 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: it makes sense for me to want another workforce, even 708 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: to come into my community that may be competing with 709 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: my job. You're losing a lot of us regionally because 710 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: you're you're doing totallying politics nationally and you're not paying 711 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: attention to what my needs and wants are. You're not 712 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: doing enough to help make more positive child support laws 713 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: their states where I have to pay child support and 714 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: the woman is not forced to allow me to spend 715 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: time with my children. You someone politicians are only clever 716 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: enough to say, hold on, that's not right. You know, 717 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: in terms of black men being left out of the 718 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: media um discourse, absolutely they are becau hus If you 719 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: put a man in the media discourse, then you're gonna 720 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: start hearing some man answers, especially the working class man. 721 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: They like putting the brothers who went to more House 722 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: with me and went to some of the h b 723 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: c U s and then you get the Ivy League, 724 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: the Harvest and Gale. They like putting us up there, right, 725 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: But they don't necessarily want to uncles up there because 726 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: I often don't say before I give yourself that what 727 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: you got, because I don't open the ages and you 728 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: understand commerce you understand, and in matters of a black 729 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: man leading the household, I just want to say from 730 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: the time the hold before you answer that, because I 731 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: won't complete clarity because I see some comments that I 732 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: am not talking about uh leading the household literally, I 733 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: mean the vote. I know you understand, but you know 734 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: people are always looking for a way for for black 735 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: men and black women to beef. So I want to 736 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: make sure that they understand clarity on what I'm asking. 737 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: When we feel out the census, when we feel out poles. 738 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: When we vote, two houses typically vote together. You can 739 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: have a house where you may have a Democrat and Republican. 740 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: But when I say leave the household, I'm talking about 741 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: actually the vote, not who says what bills are paying 742 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: and so forth. I want to put that out there 743 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: because you know they love looking for reasons to separate us. 744 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: So go ahead, me's lady right, He'll have them talk. 745 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: But before I vote, I sit down and I say, so, 746 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: who you like and why you like them, and what's 747 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: best for our household, and what's best for our business 748 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: and what's best for the community. Now. A lot of 749 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: times I know you sell. You don't want to be 750 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: a lot of times we we we agree because to 751 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: be honest, financially and my wife could be much more 752 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: conservative than me. I'll be with let's let's let's help everybody, 753 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: let's do everything. She'd be like me, bro, please when 754 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: we gotta make sure that we use problem in law seeks. 755 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: We got fifty employees, you know, UM, but voting has 756 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: never happened in the vacuum, just between men and women 757 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: in our community. Frederick Douglas warned that UM voting should 758 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: be given to to not only black people, but women 759 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 1: that the very same time. Because America was smart enough 760 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: not to do that. In their devious ways, they split 761 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: the abolitionists and the women sufrage movement. Soon after black 762 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: men got the right to vote black men, when churches 763 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: in South Carolina voting black women had shotguns and rifles 764 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: surrounding that church to make sure them hood. The klansman 765 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: was not gonna interrupt the voting process, but the photo 766 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: vote happened, a discussion happening. So I run my household 767 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: the same way my grandparents ran. You know what that 768 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: means equally and yolt and discussion together. As a man, 769 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: it is my job to be the captain, the point person, 770 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: the leader, the spokesman. But I do not leave speak 771 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: or points just for myself. It is a consensus that 772 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: comes between me and my woman, and oftentimes me my 773 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: woman and our greater family. So for me, when I 774 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: say I'm a black man, I'm the leader, that just 775 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: means I'm a quarterback on the field. If you ain't 776 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: got no offensive lineman, you ain't got no running back, 777 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: you ain't got no wide receiving, You're just gonna be 778 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: a beat up as quarterback on the back of that field. 779 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: So I was in charge of leading. I leave, we 780 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: lead according to morals and principalities, not just on a 781 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: whim that Michael may wake up. So I encouraged black 782 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: families to sit down, turn off your TV, talk to 783 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: each other over the kitchen table, like I saw my 784 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: grandparents do. Talk to your neighbors. The side's best for 785 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: you as individuals, for you as a couple, was you 786 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: for your household, your neighbors, and move accordingly. Don't let 787 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: these TV folks, and don't let people from other communities 788 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: split you up. Don't let them split you as a family. 789 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Don't let them split you as a community. Don't let 790 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: them split organizations because like my grandfather was fun and 791 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: telling me that dem folks business that ain't got nothing 792 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: to do with me, your grandst Well, Mike, you said it, 793 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: you ended it, dropping the mic as usual. So important. 794 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to touch on that because it's so so important, 795 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: um that as you talk about the mission to plot, playing, strategized, organized, mobilized, 796 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: that we do need each other. As I talked about 797 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: push the line, my push the Line logo, as you know, 798 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: has two men in two and a child on the side, 799 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: that's watching two men and two people in a business 800 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: suit and two people in street clothes. All of them 801 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: are pushing the line. One is pushing the P, one 802 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: is pushing the U, the S and the H. And 803 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: what people notice on that shirt, they're not looking to 804 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: the side to say, well, what is Mike doing and 805 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: why Mike ain't doing this? They're looking ahead and they're 806 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: looking forward. They're pushing forward, paying attention to what can 807 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: I do? Is that on social media? Is that side 808 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: of petition? Is it donate five dollars? Is it being 809 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: the a run or is it being the Moses? But 810 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: the goal is is that you are actually pushing the 811 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: line politics until something happens. And if we do that, 812 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: we can move forward. And I did that logo strategically 813 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: with two men and two women for a reason and 814 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: a child on the side, because what they see, they 815 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: will be and so if they can see us continue 816 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: to connect like this on Black News Channel to talk 817 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: about issues that are pertaining to the black community. Are 818 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: to watch you on PBS, but making sure that you 819 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: also had an air on Revolt TV, which is also 820 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: owned by man our brother Sean Puff what they call 821 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: Puff Daddy Combs um, so all of that is important 822 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: as we continue to organize, as we contain to move forward. 823 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: I want to thank you and your wife for the time. 824 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: Shout out two mrs. The mrs who who is in 825 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: charge of it all respectful to her one of the 826 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: thank you. You know what else gonna I'm voting with him. 827 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: We sit out in the household, we decide what we 828 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: want outside of our household, and we made that decision together. 829 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: So this is we're voting for. We'll talk about while 830 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: we're voting for me, and we vote together. Hey, y'all 831 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: do everything together. You'll go to the club together, y'all, 832 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: traveling together, y'all, y'all go everywhere. Y'all, y'all need to 833 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: go see. If y'all want to see what a real 834 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: hip hop couple, it could be a whole hip love 835 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: and hip hop just on the Render family alone, because 836 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: they do everything. It's a beautiful love and beautiful relationship. 837 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: I wish I wish I could say the same to 838 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: have that type of camaraderie. But it took you. You 839 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: had to go through a lot to get there. You know, 840 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: it's not everybody's business to know, but y'all go, you 841 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: had to get me together. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, 842 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: you definitely got gathered. But I want to I want 843 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: to tell everybody this, man, I know a lot of 844 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: times testing you are like ourdevor of the Bible. You're 845 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: truly a warrior and a woman that I was a 846 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: man was gladly following following the battle because that's what 847 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: the Lord is intended me to do. I want to 848 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: tell the people that take time to spread negativity online that, 849 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: like I've just seen a brother, he said sellout, Brother, 850 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: you won't I g If you're gonna call me a sellout, 851 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: do it on black Plena. That ship don't mean nothing. 852 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: I want to say that the time that you spend 853 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: sending negative messages and doubtful words, you should spend with 854 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: young people in your community trying to help them be 855 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: better organizers by becoming one. The time that you spend 856 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: disparaging people online, you should spend in your community actually 857 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: doing something, dude. And if not, then I just know 858 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: you co and tell pro and I don't care what 859 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: you say. I believe that many of the people on 860 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: our front lines or really just fellal agents and long 861 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: after weeks all we're gonna see a list of a 862 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of the niggas that I knew that work that 863 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna say work for the government, the same way 864 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 1: they did with Dr King. I remember asking Andy one time, 865 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: if y'all knew that guy was working for the face, 866 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: why did y'all talking from on? Can they say we 867 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: just tell a bunch of misinformation and jime, you got 868 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: out the room. We did the real planing. So just 869 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: know we know who you niggas are information And when 870 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: you're won back the massive with the wrong plan, we'll 871 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: be coming with the right that's right, and we're gonna know, 872 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: and we're gonna know who told because we know we 873 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: gave you the wrong plan on purpose. See that's a dicing. 874 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: We come from the streets. We're a little bit different 875 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: than the ones on on all those other networks. And 876 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: I also want to say this to anybody saying something negative. 877 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: The best way you can prove this to me tomorrow's 878 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: go live at the job. Go take your phone, do 879 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: what me and Mike do. Go live to tell your 880 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: supervisor how you feel, and make sure you go live. 881 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: Tell them how you really feel. Call them all kind 882 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: of white supremacist, call them out on cable news like 883 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: I do them front of fifty five million people, and 884 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: then you can come ride with the homie. Until then, baby, 885 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: you're not my colleague, you are simply my student. So 886 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: I want to say, I want to thank you so 887 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: much for joining us the homy killer, so they'll never 888 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: want to do that. I call the consequence of conscious concerts, 889 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: of the consequences of consciousness. They loved typing what they 890 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: love typing, but when it comes down the shore and 891 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: their real name when it comes down the show and 892 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: they face when it comes down and saying, this is 893 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: my first and last name. So the fast can really 894 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: come looking for you to get on that list. Oh, 895 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: they get real quiet then, so we know who you are. 896 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: Like Mike said, we appreciate your chiming then because you 897 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: made the numbers look good for us, So shut out 898 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: to you kill them. Mike and the entire well Michael Renders, 899 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: who we had this evening, joined us in the entire 900 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: Render family. We want to thank you so much. We 901 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: love you, Thank you for giving us your time and 902 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: anything else you want to shout out that we just 903 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: need to remember before we get out of here on 904 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: on your next upcoming projects. I know we mentioned at 905 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: the beginning to watch Love and Respect would kill the mike. 906 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: But just in case, they joined us at the end, 907 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: tell us where they can catch that this week. You 908 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: can catch it on w p B A with you 909 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: Georgia PBS station on Fridays. You can catch it on 910 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: Mondays on a Vote TV. I would like to encourage 911 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: the people that are listening from Atlanta to police go 912 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: out and vote tomorrow. Um, if you want to know 913 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: who I'm voting for, I'm voting for the person that 914 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: and the Young endorsed. And that's because I trust and 915 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: the Young as a leader. I know he has had 916 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: over seventy years of experience. I know he has been 917 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: a mayor of my great city. He brought forty billion 918 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,479 Speaker 1: dollars into this city in the N eleven billion, which 919 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: directly went into black contractors, companies, and hands and workers. 920 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: I trust that black leadership has done a great job 921 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: over a hundred and twenty years here, not just as mayor, 922 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: but Alonzo Herman. When you look at the Brando brothers, 923 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: we are we are city where black people can and 924 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: will much like DC, much like Chicago, much like out 925 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: of Compton, much like out of places like Inglewood. So 926 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: I just want to say, black cities everywhere, municipalities, do 927 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: what's best for yourself. Please get out and vote tomorrow. 928 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: The last two mayor oral elections in Atlanta were decided 929 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: about less than seven hundred and fifty votes. That's how 930 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm poor in your vote. Is. I love him to 931 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: spect to inventially again. Leader. I will follow you on 932 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: to battle anytime, too. Is. Let me know what need 933 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: it and let's do this more often next year, look 934 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: forward to me and Tessible to make sure that people 935 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: can get there and learn how to organize and y'all 936 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: next time. Alright, honey, feez, thank you so much to 937 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: Killer Micha again for joining us on being c news. 938 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: Um the audio went out a little bit, but what 939 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: Killer Mike was telling you is that next year, stay 940 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: tuned to both of us because we are going to 941 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: come to your city. We can't touch everybody, but we're 942 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: gonna stop by a few cities. Like they used to say, 943 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: it's an old school song and said old rap song. 944 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm in your city. I'm always trying to I'm always 945 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: trying to do a little audition, y'all, trying to give 946 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: Mike to give me at leasta, can I singer hook 947 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: or something a little rapper two and sixteen when y'all 948 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: hear the voice over on Loving Respect and you said, 949 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: I know that. Boys, Yeah, that's I'm gonna get on 950 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: this record. I'm gonna get on this record one way 951 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: or the other. But go ahead of Mike, salute, I 952 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: salute you HOMEI I'm gonna let you get out and 953 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap it up with the folks. All right, y'all, 954 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining. That was wonderful exclusive 955 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: interview with me, Tesla Figuro Killer Mike at the bottom. 956 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: You can follow me Tesla figure on my page, uh 957 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: and follow Killer Mike as well. Thank you so much 958 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: being C family. I know this is new. You don't 959 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: see BNC News go live a lot, so um, this 960 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: was something new that we wanted to check out, see 961 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: how it how it vibes, how it worked. 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