WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Vacation

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Vacation all I ever wanted addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as I take a pre training camp break this week

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<v Speaker 1>my five favorite fun facts interviews from this past year

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<v Speaker 1>with Chitabeya woo Jey, Mike Hilton, Evan McPherson, Frank Pollock,

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite fun facts interviews from this past season,

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<v Speaker 1>where you get to know the person under the pads.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for some fun facts with Bengals cornerback chitabey A Woogie.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that when you were a kid, you were

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<v Speaker 1>so rough and tough that you weren't allowed to play

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<v Speaker 1>certain things with other kids. Was that true and what happened? Yes? True.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it wasn't really a rule up by a

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<v Speaker 1>school or by a teacher or a parent. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, the kids that I was playing

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<v Speaker 1>with didn't want me to play with them because I

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<v Speaker 1>was everything. Home i played, someone was getting hurt or

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<v Speaker 1>injury was happening. So h yeah, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that definitely led me into football. It seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect outlat to take out that aggression. Your parents are

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<v Speaker 1>Nigerian immigrants who earned college degrees in the US. How

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<v Speaker 1>did their values in their work ethic impact you? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it impacted me so heavily. I definitely grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>the duality of being Nigerian American to the tea. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was home raising a Nigerian home, my auntie's uncles, cousins.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to parties on the weekend, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting or a celebration. The Nigerian culture definitely was

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<v Speaker 1>in me. And then when I would go into school

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd get a very good taste of the American culture.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely that duality has raised me to understand others,

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<v Speaker 1>to be heavy on family, to have faith in God,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just to always work hard. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>made it to Nigeria to see where your family's from?

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I have. The first time I went was

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<v Speaker 1>my sophomore year in high school. I was sixteen or

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen or something like that, and you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful just to see cousins who I've never met before,

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<v Speaker 1>family members, see where my parents grew up, and see

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<v Speaker 1>where my grandparents and my lineage basically started. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a village house in the village of Football

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<v Speaker 1>here and that's where everybody congregated, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful, beautiful time in my life. We're visiting with

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<v Speaker 1>chittabe A Wugier many stories about you say that your

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<v Speaker 1>first name means God will guide me. Do you take

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<v Speaker 1>that to heart? Oh? I definitely do. And my culture,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ebo culture this our names mean everything. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother has a similar name, my mom, dad, sister,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it usually resonates with something to do with God.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're very spiritual people. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>my name praised for me every day and they able

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<v Speaker 1>to live comfortably. Because you grew up near San Jose, California,

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<v Speaker 1>what were some of the things you were interested in

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid. As a kid, I was very impressionable.

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching things on YouTube and just learning about

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<v Speaker 1>different things, especially dance. You know, where I grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a dance called turfing, and they had this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called the Hype movement, and the LA had crump

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<v Speaker 1>and the South had crump, and I was interested in

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<v Speaker 1>just like all the cultures, just everything you know that

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. So I think when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just very impressionable when it came to hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop culture, dance culture. Yeah. So, so if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a pick six, is there a dance in mind for

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<v Speaker 1>the celebration. I've been thinking, man, I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>plan it out already. I got a lot. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do something honor the African people, so I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta dance there. I gotta do something under the area

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<v Speaker 1>people to dance there. So yeah, I'm a planet. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing something out for sure. We're chatting to Chitabey Wouje.

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<v Speaker 1>You attended Oak Grove High School, where you ran for

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<v Speaker 1>more than a thousand yards your senior year, but you

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<v Speaker 1>also blocked ten kicks. How do you block ten kicks?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, just being an athlete and then having

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<v Speaker 1>a good get off, And I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was just something I found out I was good

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<v Speaker 1>at thinking my sophomore year in high school. I would

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<v Speaker 1>just rush off the ball real fast and then block

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<v Speaker 1>block punts, kicks, field goals. And yeah, I wonder why

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<v Speaker 1>they have me do that more in college or NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's all good. I think I sell it in

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<v Speaker 1>that corner pretty good. So I'm playing this for Darren

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons to make sure that he's aware of that you

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<v Speaker 1>chose to attend the University of Colorado. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy most about college? The thing I enjoyed most about

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<v Speaker 1>college was the camaraderie I got to see and be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of something real special. Came into a program

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<v Speaker 1>that was rebuilding, and by the time my senior year happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we started to win, ended up being seventh

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<v Speaker 1>in the ranked seventh in the country at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>And those guys, you know, that's something that I think

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<v Speaker 1>will always hold on too, just how we had all

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<v Speaker 1>those experiences that led to that point, and that's led

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<v Speaker 1>us to be great friends even now to this day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that sior class, I'm blessed to play with Josh Tupo

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<v Speaker 1>who was on that team. We still have that connection

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, all those guys have that connection. So

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<v Speaker 1>that camaraderie was very something that that taught me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot how to be a team. And you know when

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the NFL in your sophomore year, you

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<v Speaker 1>lacerated your kidney. That's serious stuff. How bad was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was bad, man, It was bad because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what it was or the severity of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess when I fail, and it happened. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just went to the bathroom in the locker room, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I started to see blood in my us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in my in my pee and H went

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<v Speaker 1>back up and I was like, Yo, this is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Took me to the hospital and thank God that they

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<v Speaker 1>took it serious enough to where I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>we're able to diagnose it properly, and you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>helped me out for the last three games with my

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore year. And it was just a real interesting time,

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<v Speaker 1>first time that I really had an injury that kept

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<v Speaker 1>me out of football and I could walk. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I could think I could do everything. I just couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be careful, you know, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>want I realized that, you know, football is such a

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<v Speaker 1>precious sport to me. I don't want to not play.

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<v Speaker 1>So from that time I started to be real conscious of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every step I took. We're doing fun facts

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<v Speaker 1>with chitube a Wouge. You were a second round draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick by the Dallas Cowboys in twenty seventeen and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a memorable moment in NFL draft history because it

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<v Speaker 1>was in Philadelphia. Cowboys legend Drew Pearson announced the pick

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<v Speaker 1>and he took the occasion to troll Eagles fans. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you amused or did it kind of detract from your moment. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for the splendor and the and the joy

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<v Speaker 1>and the hate that he got for that too. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Drew from that moment, I got to know Drew Pearson.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a great guy, great energy, obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame player now who Thank God that he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to make it in this year. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it meant a lot to him, and it means a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to me and my family, you know, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>forever tied with that momentum. I think they also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put people on notice that they Drew's not in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame yet, like let's you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get him in the Hall of Fame. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>um that that that that just a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>came from that moment, and I'm glad that I was

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. The Dallas Cowboys are known as America's team.

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<v Speaker 1>Their fan base is really worldwide, not the US wide.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like to be a Cowboy for four years? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a blessing. Um. I wouldn't trade it for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that picked me obviously from UH College and that

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<v Speaker 1>moment will always hold hold dirt in me and those

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<v Speaker 1>moments that I shared with that team will always hold

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<v Speaker 1>dirt to me. So I'm always thankful for the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of my friends still on that team, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan of those guys and you know, ruin

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<v Speaker 1>for them for the best. So you became a free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like the Bengals really came after you

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of passion. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that stuck out to me was how much

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted me here and everything that coach Zack, coach Lou,

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<v Speaker 1>coach Jackson, all the guys who I talked to, even

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<v Speaker 1>the front office people, was about the culture here that

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<v Speaker 1>they're starting to get the coachure right, the locker rooms good,

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<v Speaker 1>all this kind of stuff. And when I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to visit here and be here now, it all holds true.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I really believe that I'm in the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>place right now to be my best and hopefully to

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<v Speaker 1>help this team be their best. So I'm real excited

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<v Speaker 1>for things to come. I'm real comfortable here already. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys are real cool, the coaches are cool. So

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<v Speaker 1>just excited to get this stand Roland all Right, a

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<v Speaker 1>few non football topics. To wrap things up with, Chitabe wouje.

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<v Speaker 1>You are an avid chess player. How did that start

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<v Speaker 1>and what you enjoy by chess? So, chess started in

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<v Speaker 1>college when me and my teammates slash peers in my class.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be kind of bored in class. We

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<v Speaker 1>had our laptops out, and you know, during a subject

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe we knew about already, we would play some chess,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, virtually on our laptops and it is real competitive,

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't want to lose, because if you lose,

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<v Speaker 1>chess kind of makes you feel like something smarter than you,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that doesn't really feel going when you know

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<v Speaker 1>that something smarter than you. So we would compete there

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<v Speaker 1>and then it kind of died down. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the Cowboys, there was a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>chess players and again real competitive, don't want to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I fostered a lot of relationships through chess.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I've learned a lot about life, how to put

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<v Speaker 1>things in order. You don't want to lose your queen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously, don't want to lose the game by

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<v Speaker 1>losing your king. You know, the rook's more worth more

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<v Speaker 1>than the pond and the bishop in the night. But

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<v Speaker 1>each peace moves, you know, in great symmetry. To have

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<v Speaker 1>a full team basically, so um, I think it's helped

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<v Speaker 1>me articulate and put things in order very well. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you the grand Master of the Bengals locker room. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't disrespect the name grand Master up I put in

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<v Speaker 1>my name next to it, but I will say that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone can beat me on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all right. If you could meet anyone in history, athlete, actor, statesman, politician,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it might be, who would that be. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>very deep question, to be honest. The first name of

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<v Speaker 1>popt to my mind was Muhammad Ali. But as you

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<v Speaker 1>finished the question, I think my real answer would probably Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would mean that I made it to heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be a good thing, so I think, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those would be. That was my first reaction, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I got my thoughts together, it was like, yeah, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>two great answers. Last thing, what's the all time worst

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<v Speaker 1>mispronunciation of chittabay wuje? Dang? It's been a lot, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this. One time someone couldn't send my name

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<v Speaker 1>elementary school that instead of calling me Chuddle Bay, they

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<v Speaker 1>called me cheddar Bay Biscuits. So that was my nickname

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<v Speaker 1>for that guy called Cheddar Bay Biscuits from d Lobster. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you should get an endorsement dealt Hey, man, I enjoyed them.

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<v Speaker 1>They are good. Yeah, yeah, they are really good. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really good. So is this. I appreciate your time, have

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<v Speaker 1>a great season. Appreciate it. Chittaby, of course, was not

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<v Speaker 1>the only free agent defensive back that the Bengals signed

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<v Speaker 1>prior to last season. They also helped themselves and hurt

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<v Speaker 1>the dreaded, hated but grudgingly respected Pittsburgh Steelers by signing

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<v Speaker 1>one of the league's top slot cornerbacks. Time for some

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<v Speaker 1>fun facts with cornerback Mike Hilton from Fayetteville, Georgia, about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles away from Atlanta. What were some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that young Mike Hilton liked to do as a

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<v Speaker 1>kid growing up in Georgia. Man, one, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go to six Flags all the time. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you heard about six Flags over George, you know they

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<v Speaker 1>have some of the best roller coasters. So if I

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<v Speaker 1>did that a lot. Of course, play football and you

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<v Speaker 1>know just enjoyed enjoying my time as a queue. We

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<v Speaker 1>have King's Island nearby. Do you still like roller coasters?

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard about King's Island. Everybody said, definitely someplace I

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<v Speaker 1>have to visit. So I'm gonna take my daughter there

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna have some fun. We're doing fun facts

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Hilton. You attended Sandy Creek High School. You

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<v Speaker 1>were more of a running back than a cornerback back then, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I got recruited mainly to play running back,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I got to college, when I really flipped

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<v Speaker 1>over to play corner Were you okay with that? I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't at first, but I knew, especially in the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>in my size, running back was kind of a ife situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know if I made that switch, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll put me in a position to be here. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the process of having a great NFL career,

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<v Speaker 1>But you are not the most famous football player from

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<v Speaker 1>your high school. Recently inducted Hall of Famer Calvin Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Megatron went to Sandy Creek. Did you see him when

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<v Speaker 1>you were a kid. Did you get to see him? Player?

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<v Speaker 1>Get to know him? Now? I've never actually seen him

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<v Speaker 1>play when I was growing up, but during my high

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<v Speaker 1>school games he would come. So I've had chances to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him and you know, just ask him about

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL life, and you know, we had some good conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just want to say congrats to

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<v Speaker 1>him for being inducted. Was that pretty exciting for folks

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<v Speaker 1>back home to see him getting the all of fame? Oh? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for our town, which you know isn't really the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest town. So you know, everybody knows everybody, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a guy like Calvin Johnson that's inducted, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we take pride in then. So you are an outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>player at one of Georgia's top high school football programs,

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<v Speaker 1>but the University of Georgia wasn't interested. What did head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Mark Richt say to you? I remember my high

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<v Speaker 1>school coach pulled me out. You know, during recruiting time,

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<v Speaker 1>you get pulled out the type to college coaches, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my high school coach was hyped me up

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and I met Rick and the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>he said to him, he was like, You're just not

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<v Speaker 1>just not big enough for me. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been sticking with me throughout my whole career. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look at it as a bad thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just him being honest. But it definitely pushed me

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<v Speaker 1>to help me get to where I am, and it

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<v Speaker 1>still motivates you. Absolutely. I absolutely I still here to

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<v Speaker 1>this day, whether it's from other people or the fans

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<v Speaker 1>of the coaches that I'm not small, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm capable of. So Mark Wrecht made a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>mistake and not recruiting you, but All Mess was smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough to recruit you. What was the best part of

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<v Speaker 1>your college experience, man? Really just being around everybody, getting

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<v Speaker 1>though my college teammates and getting that true college field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just when they say that's the best years

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<v Speaker 1>of your life, that's honest truth. And I enjoyed all four.

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<v Speaker 1>As a senior at All Mess, you received one of

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<v Speaker 1>the highest honors a player can receive at that school.

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<v Speaker 1>You were chosen to wear the number thirty eight in

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<v Speaker 1>honor of the late Chucky Mullen's a great player who

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<v Speaker 1>has paralyzed in the game. Can you articulate what that

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<v Speaker 1>honor means? Number One, it goes to a senior defensive

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<v Speaker 1>player every year. It shows leadership qualities owning off the

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<v Speaker 1>field most importantly, especially off the field, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>being in the community, doing right in the classroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it comes to own the field, being a playmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>being a voice, being a leader. I really I really

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<v Speaker 1>took to he to it my freshman year when I

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<v Speaker 1>started to learn who he was and why they were

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<v Speaker 1>passing the water down every year, and it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my goals to become the winner. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was blessed a winning We're doing fun facts with

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Hilton. Following your senior year at All Mess, you

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<v Speaker 1>signed with Jacksonville as an undrafted free agent. Things didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out there. You signed to the Patriots for their

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad. They let you go. Did the thought of

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<v Speaker 1>moving on from football even enter your mind? Oh? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>After I got cut by New England, which I was

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<v Speaker 1>only up there for a week, so that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a true experience, like this game is cut through, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a business. I was at home from like week twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean week two. It's about week twelve, week thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So during that whole span I had stopped working out,

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<v Speaker 1>started applying for jobs. I kind of just started to

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<v Speaker 1>accept that you know my opportunity wasn't was going away,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know I got that call from Pittsburgh and

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<v Speaker 1>everything took off. Sense, that's for sure. They gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. You capitalized with four great seasons in the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers uniform. When did you know you made it? I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had a feeling through it through that preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Then it was four preseason games after the

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<v Speaker 1>second and third when I was just making a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of plays and I just had my ears around the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room that like everybody like Mikey, you're good man.

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<v Speaker 1>You have nothing to worry about because you know, being undrafted,

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<v Speaker 1>you're always worried, like today's the day I'm probably getting cut.

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<v Speaker 1>But all those guys kind of kept me, kem me

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<v Speaker 1>confident and kem me rolling. We're talking to Mike Hilton. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've referenced, you're not a big guy, five nine

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four according to the roster, but you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best blitzing defensive backs in the NFL. What's the secret.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give away too much, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just learning the tendencies of the quarterback. You know

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<v Speaker 1>when they're going to snap it, if they're gonna possibly

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<v Speaker 1>have a motion before just you know, watching field and

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<v Speaker 1>just picking out those bits and pieces I can use

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<v Speaker 1>to time up listening up better. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite sack one? If we go one, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>when I actually tied the record in Pittsburgh in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen where I had three, So it was that third

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<v Speaker 1>one when I obviously tied the record is my favorite one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what was that record for three in a game

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<v Speaker 1>or three three in a game? It was I say

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Polamalus on that list and Carneal Lakes on that

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<v Speaker 1>list and myself. So just knowing Pittsburgh history and being

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<v Speaker 1>up there with those guys, it's a great on. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to find out what records you're gonna break. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Mike Hilton. You became a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>You signed a four year, twenty four million dollars deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals. That's generational, changing wealth potentially. When you

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<v Speaker 1>go from undrafted free agent who had been let go

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times to highly coveted free agent signing

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, is it a little bit overwhelming? I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say so, because I know how hard I've worded

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<v Speaker 1>to get in this position from our early experiences being

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<v Speaker 1>cut that kind of just got my mentality rolling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being at home and seeing other guys who, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was bettering, you know, out there competing

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<v Speaker 1>on Sundays. I didn't let it get me down. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the four years I was able to perform,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm ready to perform here and since it so

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<v Speaker 1>since joining the Bengals, you have brought an accountability chart

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<v Speaker 1>essentially to the defensive backs room. Tell us about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something I learned from the learning from Joe Hayden.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out Joe, our appreciation man. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just something especially in the secondary, we're all about

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<v Speaker 1>getting getting our hands on the ball, being in great

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and just making plays. And when I brought it here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys really really embraced it because they know

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<v Speaker 1>if we're doing these things correctly, it's going to pay

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<v Speaker 1>off on Sunday. So I'm excited to see see how

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<v Speaker 1>we fair Sunday. One of the categories is apparently loafs.

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<v Speaker 1>You get punished for loafing, and as a defender of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst thing you can do is loaf to the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>If all other teen is running to the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>you're that one that's have a jog and sticking out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be seen. You're gonna get called out. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of put that not just on the secondarybody

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<v Speaker 1>as a defense, as a whole, like, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>be fast, we want to be physical, and we can't

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<v Speaker 1>have no loafs. All right, let's get to some wildcard

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<v Speaker 1>categories for Mike Hilton. Who is your all time favorite

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.919
<v Speaker 1>athlete in any sport? Any sport? Man? I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go with the King, Lebron James Man. He's the goat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the best to ever do it. And I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of saying his career slowly coming to an end, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've enjoyed watching him my whole lifetime. Have

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<v Speaker 1>the other chance to meet him, I haven't, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully one day, whether he's still playing or not, I

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<v Speaker 1>have that opportunity. All right, what do you like to

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<v Speaker 1>spend your money on? Oh? Man, we're getting personal. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give a husband answer. I have a wife and

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter, so all my money goes to them too,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, especially my daughter or whatever she wants,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say no. So really them too. How

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<v Speaker 1>old is your daughter? And what's your favorite part about

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<v Speaker 1>being a dad? She she turned to on the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>so she just turned to and favorite part just just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them grow up. You know, every day is like

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<v Speaker 1>they learned something new, and you know, it just puts

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<v Speaker 1>a smile on my face. And when every time I

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<v Speaker 1>come home or first d daddy, daddy. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great feeling. Now we're gonna get really deep. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could meet anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it might be, who would that person be? Hint anybody

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<v Speaker 1>to meet, I would say Michael Jackson. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an old school answer. I like it. Yeah, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got an old school So then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've raised around a lot of older people, so that

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<v Speaker 1>s what I know. Do you have any hidden talents?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. That's what we're gonna think about it. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't play any instruments, can't see or nothing. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God bless me. Play football. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. Last thing, is there anything that you are

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<v Speaker 1>really bad at? Really bad it? I'll be honest, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not the best mathematician like easy math. Yes, but if

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<v Speaker 1>we go in you know, equations, fractions, dancing, where things

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<v Speaker 1>get a little hectic for me. As long as you

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<v Speaker 1>know the value of a pick six, that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew you need to know. Absolutely, this has been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time. Welcome to US Cincinnati investal luck

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Thank you. I'm excited to be a next

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<v Speaker 1>a baby faced kid who arguably had the best rookie

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<v Speaker 1>season of any kicker in NFL history. Go for some

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<v Speaker 1>fun facts with kicker Evan McPherson from Fort Payne, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>population roughly fifteen thousand in the northeast part of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe Fort Payne and some of the things you like

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<v Speaker 1>about your hometown. It's a small town where how I'll

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<v Speaker 1>explain it is everybody kind of knows everybody. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun growing up. There not much going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and so all you're all you had to really focus

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<v Speaker 1>on was you know, your your sports and then uh

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<v Speaker 1>and then really church was a big thing in our

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<v Speaker 1>community too, and so you go church on Sunday and

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<v Speaker 1>then pretty much sports, um, every day of the week. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But small town feel, um. You know, there's only one

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<v Speaker 1>school really in the city. And so everybody goes to

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 1>that one school and um, you pretty much know almost

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the in the city. Sounds like Lakewood, New York,

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>where I grew up. Fort Payne is the home of

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the band Alabama, one of the biggest selling country music

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>bands of all time. In fact, there is a museum

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to the band in Fort Payne. Are you a

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>country music guy and have you ever gone into the museum? Yeah,

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent a country music guy. If you

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>were to get in my car with me right now,

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what would be on the radio. Um. Yeah, I

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>just grew up listening to it. Um, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>for Fort paynees. Like you said, it's probably a big

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>part of our culture with the band Alabama being from

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Fort Payne, and it's super cool just to um, you know,

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I have them represent FOURT Payne in a great way

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, on the national country music stage. But

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I've never been in the museum. I drive past it

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>every single day, but I've never actually been in it.

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Something to look forward to on your next visit home.

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>We are chatting with Evan McPherson. You're from a family

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of kickers. Your older brother was a college punter. Your

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>younger brother is headed to Auburn. He's considered to be

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the top high school kicker in the country. How did

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the McPherson boys become such good kickers? I mean, I

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>think it just comes down to us just playing a

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of sports grown up, and the main one being soccer.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, we were out in the yard every day

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>shooting at a goal, just kind of working on our

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>legs strength then even though we didn't really realize how

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>we were going to use it, you know later down

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the road. I think it just all started. You go,

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>playing soccer to young age and just continuing to play

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it as we grew up. And then you know, when

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>my older brother got in the ninth grade, he went

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>out and tried out and just saw the kicker at

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:14.959
<v Speaker 1>the time at the other field, at the other end

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of the field kicking and he thought it was pretty cool,

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and so he just went over and tried it out,

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>came home and told the family that he was going

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to be the kicker, and he kind of went from there.

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I probably went outside that day and I

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>was like, I've never seen this before, and I probably

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>went out and tried it, and you know, the rest

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>is history. I mean ever since then, we turned our

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.959
<v Speaker 1>soccer goal into uprights, and so that's kind of how

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been since since then. I am the least handy

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>person in the world. I can barely change a light bulb.

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>How did you guys turn a soccer goal into basically

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a makeshift goal post. Yeah, so we just had some

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>extra PVC pie laying around the house or around the

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>garage or something, and then we just grabbed him. UM

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>took some bungee cord and wrapped it tied around the

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>soccer goal post, and UM just tied it to the

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>soccer goal and that's kind of how we made it work.

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Described the history of the high school state record for

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>longest field goal in Alabama, because it seems like it's

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>gone from brother to brother to brother. It has UM.

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, when my older brother was in in high school,

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the record might have been fifty six fifty six,

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and for him to get the fifty seven was huge

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>at the time. You know, we're all excited for him,

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's really cool to have your name

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>in a record book, especially for for it to be

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>for the longest field goal UM in state history. And

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know, after you hit that, obviously, then my

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>goal is to beat him. And you know, I really

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 1>got fortunate with you know, my coach give me the

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to attempt long ones, and my senior year, I

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>broke his record, said it with a sixty yard field goal.

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously from there, my little brother now his

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>goal is to break my record. And he's had so

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>many attempts over the course of his career. I mean,

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>his coaches out there letting him attempt seventy yard field goals,

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>which is which is pretty crazy. And he almost made

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the seven yard field goal he attempted, but he came

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>up a little short. And then last week he hits

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a sixty one yard field goal in the first quarter,

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but his teammate false starts, so back him up to

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>sixty six, came up short, and then later in the

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>game he came back and hit another sixty one with

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>no false start. And so he broke my record last

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>last week, and so took my name out of the

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>record book, but same last name. And you know, I'm

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>super super excited for him, and you know, it just

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>shows it as a good coach. So that's awesome. We're

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>doing fun facts with Havan McPherson kicker's dream of walk

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>off kicks that win games. But your first walkoff moment

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>in sports was actually in soccer state championship. You're a

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>ninth grader. Tell me about the game winning goal and

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>what that moment meant to you. And that moment was

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>super special. We had five freshman starting on that team

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and just growing up with those those guys and playing

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>with them ever since we were probably seven years old.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>It was just super special to to honestly win a

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>state championship with the team, but and then on top

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>of that, to score the game winning goal. It was

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>super special, a lot of fun. I mean, I gotta

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>give credit where credits to do. I mean, my teammates

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>did a great job putting me in the position to

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>score that goal. I had a great pass and all

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I had to do is kind of go put my

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>head on it and flip it over the goal. But yeah,

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that was such a special moment for me and I

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>guess for my sports career. People can watch the video

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, and I recommend listening to the commentators as well.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>They got very excited about that double overtime state championship

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.959
<v Speaker 1>winning goal. We're talking to Vin McPherson, when it came

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>time to go to college, you chose to leave the

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>state of Alabama and become a Florida Gator. Why. You know,

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I really trusted in everything that coach Mullen was doing.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was committed to Mississippi State for over

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a year, and that just kind of came down to

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, one, I really enjoyed Startville. I'll talk a

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit about Mississippi State, but I really liked Starvilling,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the town that it was in, and but too like

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff, the strength staff. You know, I really

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>blended well with those guys and really liked what they

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>were doing, and I felt really confident in them, and

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you know they felt confident in me. And so that's

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>really why I decide to go there. And then whenever

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>coach Mullen got the job at Florida, he calls me

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the day landed and offered me a scholarship there. Um.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, I sat there and thought about it for

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, and then I was like, you know, um,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>where my heart lies was kind of with the coaching

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>staff that went to Florida, and you know, I really

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to play in big games, and I thought, um

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>that Florida would give me the opportunity to play in

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot bigger games than if I had gone to

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State. And you know, that's what it kind of

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>came down to. And you know, I felt, I guess

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a little more comfortable at Florida just because I had

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that that bond with the whole the whole staff that

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>was down there. You had a great career for Florida,

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the Bengal selected you in the fifth round

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of the draft, the only kicker selected in this year's draft.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Describe your draft day experience. Draft day was was awesome.

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>We had some people get together at the house to

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>watch because I had a pretty good idea that I

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>was going to get drafted, and you know, I was

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>hoping I would just didn't know where. It's kind of

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a mystery. And the whole day it was pretty special.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we had this Mexican restaurant in town where

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much called my second home. I'm there whenever

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm back home, I'm there all the time. And you know,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>they were kind enough to to cater food to the

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>house for everybody that was there, and I think, shoot,

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we probably started sitting around the TV, probably fourth round

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and just sitting around, sitting around the TV, just sitting

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>there with all my friends and family that I've all

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>supported me throughout my career was super special. And then

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fifth round, whenever it came around and

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I got the phone call, whole place kind of erupted

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and a super special moment for me. Um. Obviously my

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>fiance sitting a round by my side, and she's been

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>with me since my freshman year of high school, and

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>so she's she's watched me grow and help me grow,

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, into what I am today, And it was

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>honestly just a super special moment for everyone involved. Your

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>NFL career began with a bang as you kicked an

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>overtime game winning field goal to beat the Minnesota Vikings

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>at Paul Brown Stadium. Who was the most nervous you,

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>your parents or your fiance. I would probably say my

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>parents are a fiance for sure. I can't tell you

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>which one was probably more nervous, But I think I

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>was super confident in myself, so once I was really

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>nervous at all, I know they panned over to me

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>after they called the time out, and I was kind

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>of smiling. You know, I'm all super confident and my

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>abilities to make that kick. It's a pat in my

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>mind and on you. I was gonna do everything in

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>my power to put it through. You had a walkoff

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>game winner in your first home game, a walkoff game

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>winner in your second home game, and you thought you

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>had a walkoff game winner in your third home game

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>for a gust of wind led to a miss against

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. Do you cringe when you see footage of

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the postgame celebration. I don't think I cringe. I laugh

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>more than everything, because you know, you can't really do

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>anything about it now. It's it's it's in the past,

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I kind of it's honestly more funny than

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>it is cringey to me, just based off of what

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I felt in the moment. Thought it hit it well,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was just gonna stay its course

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, split the uprights, but the wind had

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>different plants, and so that's definitely something I learned from.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you'll see me celebrate early on

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a field goal again. I do think we will be

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>seeing you celebrate game winning field goals again, though, that's

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>for sure. A few wildcard categories. To wrap up fun

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Facts with Evan McPherson. You have a very youthful appearance.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any amusing stories about people not buying

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that you are a professional football player? I got a couple,

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess too. Um, since I've been here, it's funny because, um,

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>outside the facility, UM, Kevin Hubert, he's really you know,

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>taking me under his wing and you know, we'll go

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>golf a little. Or we went to the Friday night

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you UC game and at the golf course, Um, we

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>were checking in getting our golf cart, and the guy

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that was checking us in was like, UM, what he's like,

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is this your son or something? And he's like he's

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>like no, he's just a guest. He's with me, all right.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That was my first experience hearing somebody say something like

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that about me and Kevin. And then at the UC game,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the Friday night UC game, we go down and um,

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Kevin's X neighbor and she asked about

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it was Kevin's nephew. Kevin was like, no, we're He

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>was like no, we're co workers. And so we go

0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>on talking whatever, and she didn't believe it. Ever, he

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>said it and so Kevin's other friends knew who I

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>was and you as a kicker, and later on she

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, so who are you really? Still wasn't still

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't buying it, and his other friends were like, he's

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the kicker for the Bengals. And she's like what. She's like,

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you. She's like, you looked like you're seventeen.

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I mean he looked like I'm seventeen, but

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty two. And then the last one I'll give

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you it was when we were at Detroit and I'll

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>walk out of the out of the locker room and

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the security lady is sating right there and she's like,

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>do you have credentials? And I'm like, no, I'm a player,

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>she said. She said nah. She's like, I don't believe you.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I need to see credentials. And I was like, well,

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a picture on myself. I could show you because

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I had my phone, and so I'll show her a picture.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>He's like that's not enough, like I need to see credentials.

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And luckily at that time Al Golden was walking out

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and the lady said, hey, sirs, is he a player?

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>And he's like yeah, and so she'll let me go.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.240
<v Speaker 1>And finally got onto the field, and what it was funny?

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And when I got to the field, they were giving

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>me a hard time. They wouldn't let me onto the field.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>So those just a couple of instances. But um, you know, hopefully,

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>like you said, we'll be celebrating a lot of more

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>game winners and maybe people start to recognize me a

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>little more. Trust me, someday you'll be very happy you

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>have this youthful appearance. Who is your all time favorite

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>athlete in any sport? So I grew up really liking

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be funny Tom Brady. I was a Patriots

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>fan growing up. I really liked how he competed and

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>what he brought to the team and obviously how much

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he won. And so he's probably one of my favorite

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>athletes growing up. But um, other than him, a wild

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>card that nobody really think of. His name is Ronald

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Dino and he played for Barcelona AC Milan and I

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you played for Brazil national team. He was my

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>favorite soccer player, I'd say, and whenever I was growing

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>up playing soccer, he was the guy that I really

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>looked at to I guess you could say, emulate last thing.

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman,

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>historical figure, whoever that might be, who would be at

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the top of your list. Probably God. I think that

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>would be pretty cool. You can ask about that gust

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of wind. Yeah, I'll ask him what was up with

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>that gust of wind against Green Bay? Because I was like,

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I knew what my mind and what my body was

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>telling which way the wind was blown. But I was like,

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess he had a different, different plan. So I'll

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely ask him about that. This has been great. I

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate your time. Congratulations on a great start and

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>best of like this year. Thank you. Before we get

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.600
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0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>fun facts with offensive line coach Frank Pollock born in

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Camp Springs, Maryland, near Washington, DC, before attending high school

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix, Arizona. Frank, where did you spend the bulk

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of your childhood and what did you like to do

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>as a kid? A group in Phoenix. I moved out

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>there when I was two. My parents were in the

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Navy and when they met and got married and had

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>me and we moved out to Phoenix. So our group

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix seventies and eighties and love sports, love football right

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>from the get go, and just did all the sports

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>growing up as a kid, like probably every other kid,

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and just blast. I always assume and maybe it's stereotypical

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that the child of military parents has a very disciplined

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>life as a kid. Was that the case for you? Yeah,

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say they were military parents because they got

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>out like right after I was born, within two years,

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>because then my younger sister was born in the same

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>DC area and then we left, so I know, we

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>really remember my dad ever being in the military. I

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>was like two, so but yeah, I mean I was disciplined.

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>My dad grew up in Cleveland and then went to

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Benedict in high school and so kind of a you know,

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>midwestern upbringing out there in the West Coast. You know,

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>discipline was big in our house, and you know, so

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>he kept me in line off every got a little squirrelly.

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun facts with Frank Pollock. You're a big man.

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>You're a former NFL offensive lineman. Were you always the

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>big kid in the neighborhood? No, Actually, I was a

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>late bloomer. I was decent sized young with then by

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the time I got the high school, everyone was taller,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>bigger than me. It's funny to see someone my high

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>school JV team pictures and some of my good buddies

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that they were all taller and bigger than me, and

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>now I tower over them. So I was a late

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>bloomer and grew a ton right before my senior year

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and then obviously throughout college. When it came time for college,

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he became a lumberjack at Northern Arizona University y NAU.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It was the only scholarship offer I had outside of

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of local junior colleges, so I took it

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and ran with it. Northern Arizona has a remarkable record

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of sending coaches to the NFL. Who did you overlap

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>with as a player and then as a young assistant coach. Yeah,

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I was very fortunate to be coached by some incredible

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>coaches early on in college. Are my office a line

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 1>coach my sophomore junior years was Bill Callahan and then

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>before him, actually for one year really my true sophomore year,

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a late redshirt hardship there, but was Andy

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Reid was my line coach before coach Callahan came in.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And then the see for most of those years. Four

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the five was Brad childress Um Marty morney

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Wig was a young GA running back coach on that staff.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Steve Hagen, who coached a long time in the league

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>tight ends and receivers, was our was our receivers coach. Um.

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I was very fortunate. And then uh, they had a

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>few good coaches kind of came in after me when

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I had left on a different staff. And actually Brad

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Craigthorpe's dad was on that staff. Uh, the younger Zampez

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Ken Zampez was on that staff. I'm drawing a blank.

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>The head coach Carl Darelle at Colorado was on that staff.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.720
<v Speaker 1>All these young guys that have gone and have great career,

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.399
<v Speaker 1>so um and hes had a lot. Mike Shanahan coach

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:50.479
<v Speaker 1>there early in his career. Um, I'm drawing a blank.

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm the old New England old line coach's Karnekia

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>He's he coached there early in his career. So it's

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of one of those unique, weird places. I always

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>call it the cradle to coaches on the West coast.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I know Miami of Ohio's got that title on the

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>east the Mississippi. I'm I'm gonna claim it on the

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>West Mississippi rightfully. So we're visiting the Frank Pollock. You

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Bill Callaghan, who is the brother the dad I

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 1>should say of offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. He was Zach

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Taylor's head coach at Nebraska. He is a big reason

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>why you became a coach. Correct, Yeah, he's He's He's

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>been huge impact on my life from a player in coaching.

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a member writing him a letter when I was

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>playing that I wanted to come in GA for him

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>at Wisconsin and then and he wrote me back a

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>nice letter saying that love to have you GA for me.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I saved that letter and years later when

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I ended up coaching with him form in Dallas as

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 1>his assistant. I showed him that letter. He was flabbergast

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that I still kept it. So he's been huge for me.

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Learned a ton and still learning a ton from him.

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>He's been been very fortunate in that regards. He learned

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a degree in advertising. If you didn't get into coaching,

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>is that what you would have done? No, it was

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the classic. I didn't want to I didn't want to

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>go down to the pe route. I wanted something a

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit different. So I just decided advertising didn't have

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of math in it, like, yeah, I'll do that.

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I kind of always knew I wanted to coach.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I tried to stay away from it later in my

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>life and then got back into it. That's where my

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>badgion is. After being named an All American in Northern Arizona,

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you were a sixth round draft pick by the forty

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>nine ers in nineteen ninety. Describe your draft experience. It

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>was funny you ask. It was a little different than

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>how they do things now, but it was kind of

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:36.959
<v Speaker 1>a drawn out process over three days, and in fact,

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>it went like Saturday, Sunday, and Monday was kind of

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>like the last day. So my agent at the time

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix had a you know, a big to do

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>party and whatnot during the first day of the draft,

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 1>and he had a bunch of you know, high first

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>round draft guys. I knew I clearly was not going

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to be taken that day, but just enjoyed the festivities.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 1>But I was under the impression that maybe the next

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>day I might go. And then I didn't get any information,

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and so I had to get up early on Monday

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>morning go to his office. He was a little kid

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix, and I was just a wreck. I mean,

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>we're getting into the later rounds. The sixth rounds gone,

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the seventh rounds gone. This is about me. Had twelve rounds.

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>We're in like the ninth and tenth round. My agents

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>calling around teams. He calls the Washington Redskins and hits

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>up Charlie Castle. I guess he showed interest in me

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>pre draft draft and he goes, what do you mean

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>the Niners took him way back in the sixth round.

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, what, they haven't even called him. And

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>he tells me that. I go, I'm not believing I

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>get a phone call. So he calls the Niners and

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, yeah, yeah, we're gonna call him. We were

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>just we just worked out a draft a trade, and

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we haven't a chance to call him yet. So that's

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>sums up in a nutshell. It's like, you know, there's

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 1>some sixth round old line guy. We'll get back. We'll

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>get to him whenever we can get to him. So

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of my draft experience, but nonetheless I

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>got my foot in the door. That might be the

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>greatest example of how the draft has changed that I

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>have ever heard. You were an NFL player for nine years,

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>seven in San Franz, two in Denver. You won a

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.959
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl ring with the ninety four San Francisco forty

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>nine Ers when they beat the Chargers. What do you

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>cherish the most about your experience as an NFL player?

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>The great teammates, the camaraderie with all my teammates. I

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>told the guys all the time, that's what you're gonna miss.

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Number one, the great experiences and that we had. We

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted a lot of football games. Loved my experiences with

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>all the different coaches that came through the Niners years

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>that I was there and in Denver, and then just

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>just those great experiences and being part of being able

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to you know, play pro football. This is a dream

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>come true. And being able to be on such a

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>great winning organization again a championship there with the Niners

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>was tremendous. Something always uh, we're relish, we're doing fun

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>facts with Frank Pollock. The list of Hall of Fame

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>players that were your teammates is remarkable. I'm going to

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>name a few and I would like you to just

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 1>share a memory or a description, whatever comes to mind.

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Joe Montana prankster. First thing it comes to my training camp,

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you'd take guys bikes and throw them up into the trees.

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>He had at Rockland Community Sieri Community College in rock And, California,

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>because he didn't have to stay in late meetings. He

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>knew the skiss system so kind of an old veteran.

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>They led him out of the meetings early and you'd

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>find it was on the campus as like. He'd ride

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>bikes to the meetings back to the dorms and he

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.439
<v Speaker 1>would put guys bikes in the trees. Great guy loved

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>to go out with the old line especially and take

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>him out, treat him out for some drinks and dinners.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>And it was a lot of fun. Great guy. Did

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>he prank you, No, he never pranked me, but he

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>did save me from getting just abused as a rookie

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>from Charles Haley. But he was a guy was constantly

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>liked to pick on rookies. One day in the locker room,

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>we would sign his autograph footballs in front of the

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>equipment room every day. It was part of our deal.

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And then Charles Haley sees me over there, so he's

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>just you know, taking his ribbings, getting his opportunities at

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>me as a rookie. And Joe lockers right there and

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>he said, hey, hey, Charles, leave him alone. And then

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, this is a great guy. And

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>so Charles never messed me again because Joe told him

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>not to mess with the man. It's like, okay, I'll

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>take it. I have newfound respect for Joe. Montana. John Elway.

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>John el was another guy loved hanging out with the

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>old line. Good time guy loves loves to hang out

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>with the fellows. He was rehabbing his shoulder hit an

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>injury and then I was on an ir with the

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>back surgery that year, so at some point doing rehab

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>together like they have you off to the side. He

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>was gonna start throwing some balls, So they asked if

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I would just go stand over there and he's gonna

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>throw these deep out routes to him. I just had

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to stand there. Oh my god. I mean he must

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 1>have been like thirty forty yards away, and how hard

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>he through. My hands were hurting in red and hurt afterwards.

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was just trying to protect my face

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>from not getting just I mean, it is ridiculous how

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>hard that guy throws. That was like, like, wow, it's impressible.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>They talk about the elway cross, the point on the

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>end of the football where you've got the scenes that

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>come together, and how he used to leave an indentation

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of that cross on guy's chest and stuff that's legit

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>because he zipped the ball in there. Man, it was crazy.

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Rice, unbelievable work ethic. I shared stuff like this

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.280
<v Speaker 1>with my guys all the time. This guy was so talented,

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>but you were never ever going to outwork him. He

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>was just my niacole over it. Just relentless prepractice, post practice.

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>It was it got He's just an animal. On how

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>he would work out in his conditioning, his work ethic

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>was unbelievable. Unbelievable. Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott is one of

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 1>my most favorite individuals. I got the utmost respect for

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that guy for how he was on the field and

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room, but him afterwards, years later before

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I got on the coach and I got to do

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>some business stuff with him and got to learn just

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 1>get to know him little bit better. Such a class

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to act and just a man, a man's man, a gentleman.

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>He does a lot for the community with his all

0:48:55.960 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>star helping kids charity. He's genuine, he's He taught me

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>as an early player leadership from the locker room and

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>chemistry matters more than anything on a football team. I

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>played with him for two years and when he left

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Raiders, we had a slow start the next

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>year and we had a team only players meeting and

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a young guy. I'm as when they're listening, and

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.840
<v Speaker 1>all the old guys our leaderships then got up in

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>every one of them to a man reference where Ronnie

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>would say this, Ronnie would do that. He wasn't on

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 1>our team anymore. I'm like, when I coach someday, never

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>forget that. So it's all about leadership got come from

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the players, and chemistry matters more than anything. Line one,

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>culture matters. Gan Sanders he was. He came in with

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>all the hype right primetime. You're like, what's this guy

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like? You know? And then when he came in,

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>he was just like one of the guys that all

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that was just his persona off the field to get

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>himself endorsements. He was just a regular guy, worked his

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>butt off. His work ethic was right up there with

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the fellas and how we ran things there,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and his talent and speed were incredible. We had a

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty good player. Dexter Carter was our kick returner, first

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick out of Florida State, same year as me.

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Fast and he was good. And then Dion got there,

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>well he's gonna start returning kicks, and then you could

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>literally see the difference of speed and I'm like, oh

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>my god, That's when I ever realized how fast he was,

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and some of these players in this league was We

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>could literally see the difference where Dexter Carter is not slow,

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he's fast, and you're like, holy cow, up close and

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing that, and he would lay out his whole uniform,

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>pregame ritual, his shoes, his socks, like it was like

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.240
<v Speaker 1>one of them chalk lines of a dead body. His pants,

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>his band dans, his sweet towels, all that laid out,

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>his wrist bands on his elbows and wrist whatever it was,

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>his gloves, his helmet, That's how he would he would

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>lay it out and he would walk around the locker

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 1>room and dollars signed boxer shorts to get getting ready

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>for a game. And it was kind of like where

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I learned. Also, is like every players got their own

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 1>unique way to get themselves ready. They're all professionals. You

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>just have their own unique way getting So I was

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to play a fantastic player. You don't do that

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>with your clothes. Now, I don't. I don't have the

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>physique or a skill set he had. I keep my

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>IKEA clever it up there all right. A couple of

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 1>wild card categories to wrap things up. Who is your

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>all time favorite athlete in any sport? Jeez, that's a

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>great question. I was a big Cowboy fan growing up,

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>so I love twenty doors set Roger stall Back. We

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any professional sports teams set the Suns, so

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>at the time that the Sons. Is a big Walter

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Davis fan, and then I was a Dodgers fan, so

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Dusty Baker was my favorite player growing up in the seventies.

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Those are really the guys I idolized at the time

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>growing up as a kid. Do you have any hidden

0:51:55.520 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>talents or off field interests that might surprise us? My

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>wife would definitely say, I have no hidden talents whatsoever.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm worthless at home. I got I can't do anything,

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So I would say probably not, except I do like

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to golf a little bit on my time off in

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the summer. But I'm horrible, but I love it. It's

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>fun to get outside and a beautiful setting on a

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 1>golf course and drink and eat while you play. It's

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>always fun to do that. If you're horrible but you

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>love it, we'll play. We'd be a good match. Last thing.

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:27.919
<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of deep. If you could meet

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman, politician, religious figure, whatever

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it might be, who would that person be. That's a

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>great question, and I've always I have pondered that if

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I could go back in time, and I'd always want

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to go back in time to meet some of the

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 1>legendary athletes and coaches. And then so with my position

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>right now, I have to say Vince Lombardi and just

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>pick his brain on his approach to the game and

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 1>practice and just experience and meet a guy like him

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>what he's done so much to the sport and person.

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>But really anybody. I'm a real big sports historian, h

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I love that stuff. So I'd love to meet any

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 1>of those guys. I mean, Babe Ruth, who would not

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>want to go back in time and just just to

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>be able to be around Babe Ruth. I mean, he

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>was heard he's pretty fun too to be around. But

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Vincent Brie is the first guy that comes to mind.

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Just would love to pick his brain on everything that

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.759
<v Speaker 1>he'd done, And I can't. I'd be remiss if I

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't mention Paul Brown, all right, So he would. He's

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>incredible how much he's invented for this game. Um, and

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>since since I come to the Bengals and learn a

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit more about him, already knew some of the

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff that he's done and created invented. But he'd be

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>another guy to be really cool. We have a I

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>guess mister Brown upstairs has got a lot of his

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>artifacts and memorabilia upstairs, and my first time I was here,

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I got to go check out some of that stuff.

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I know some of those things. I'm his writings are

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 1>up there. I'd love to go up there one of

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 1>these days in the off season and read some of

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.879
<v Speaker 1>his notes on plays and whatnot. This has been great.

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>It's awesome to have you back on the Bengals coaching staff.

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Continued success and thanks for the time. Thank you very

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Much's awesome to beback. Appreciate it. My final favorite interview

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>from this past season was with Bengals president Mike Brown.

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 1>We sat down in his office shortly before the Bengals

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 1>headed to Los Angeles for Super Bowl fifty six. Mike,

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 1>football has been your life personally and professionally. Can you

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>articulate what this Super Bowl trip means to you? What's

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 1>very satisfying. Our team came together and we've had a

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 1>string of amazingly close games. They were exciting. We prevailed

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in four of them, really to get to this point.

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Twice against Kansas City, the first one here and we

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.840
<v Speaker 1>had to win that one to win the division and

0:54:56.040 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 1>get into the playoffs. And just as pleased as it's

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.880
<v Speaker 1>possible to be. If you're in my position, this is

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.399
<v Speaker 1>what your goal is in life. And here we are.

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 1>We have a chance to win a big winning That

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>would be great if we could pull it off. But

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's an exciting time for me and for all the

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 1>people here with the Bengals. At what point did you

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>think that this team could be a contender. Well, Joe

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Burrow makes you think you can win any game that

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you go into, and we have amazing white outs. We've

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>got three guys that are just tremendous. That gives us

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a live offense. These days in the NFL, the goal

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>is to score thirty points or more. That's what you

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 1>need to win it. You can even lose it that figure,

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but if you can get there with enough defense to

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 1>go with it, you prevail. And we did Noise get there.

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.359
<v Speaker 1>We did Noise prevail. But as we went along, our

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 1>confidence built because you could see we could play with anybody.

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>And then we got to the point where we were

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 1>winning these close games. And here we are. We'll see

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>what happens next, but this is a good group of players,

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a good group of people, and they look forward to

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>see what happens out in La Mike. When your father's

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns are winning championships. His quarterback was Autogram, the

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady of his era winning seven championships. Does Joe

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Burrow remind you of Autogram in any way they compete?

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>They just performed best when the pressure is greatest. And

0:56:57.000 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>remember having utter confidence and Auto grammart somehow, some way

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 1>he would get us where we needed to go. And

0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the same as true with Joe. Joe finds the way

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and the players believe in him here, just as the

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>old Browns players believed in Otto. They thought that they

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 1>were going to do it. They had confidence, and Otto

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was the one that instilled that, just as Joe does

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>with our guys these days. I don't know if you've

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 1>ever seen the movie Jerry McGuire, but there's a cheesy

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 1>line in it where the female character says to Tom Cruise,

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the sports agent, you had me at hello when you

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>met with Joe Burrow at the NFL scouting combine? Did

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>he have you at hello? He was focused, and he

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't very interested in small talk. Zach did some football

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 1>discuss with him then and at another time as well,

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, and you perked up when you saw him,

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and how he conducted him, so he has a air

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>about him that calls for respect. When he came here,

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 1>he earned that. Everyone believes in him here. That's what

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you want from your quarterback. After clinching the AFC North,

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor gave you and your wife Nancy a game

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 1>ball and said if he was working for a different owner,

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>he probably would not have had a third year as

0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the head coach. What did you see that gave you

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 1>confidence that Zach ultimately would be successful. He's organized, he's

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a good person, He's knowledgeable about football. He was young

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and went through some things. But quite honestly, we were

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>injured the year with Joe and the team was injured,

0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and that was what set us back more than anything.

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:16.720
<v Speaker 1>But you could see the basic structure was what I

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hope for. He knows the passing game and that's where

0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the NFL is these days, and he teams well with Joe.

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>They both believe in each other. I never thought that

0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 1>there was any question that he was capable of doing this.

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's off to Super Bowl fifty six in Los Angeles.

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you typically attend the Super Bowl? I used to.

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm old now and so I don't. I have in

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>recent years, had get together with a group of friends

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and we sit and watch and have a nice time

0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>at home. Here Katie has taken over. She goes to

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. I've seen that stick and it's quite amazing.

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>It's fun, but I've done it enough times that I'm

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.480
<v Speaker 1>ready to hand it off to Katie. I covered a

1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl years ago where Marv Levy, the Buffalo Bills coach,

1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 1>refused to pose for a picture with the Lombardi Trophy

1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:28.800
<v Speaker 1>before the game. He thought it was bad luck. Have

1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you ever held the Lombardi Trophy? No? Have you dreamed

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of that moment where the commissioner hands you the Lombardi

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Trophy after a Bengal Super Bowl win? Oh? I don't

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 1>dream of such things. Yes, I know that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have happened, But I don't have night

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts along those slides. I didn't live here in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one or nineteen eighty eight, but Dave Lappham has

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<v Speaker 1>dis gribe for me what the city was like when

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals were going to those two Super Bowls. What

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<v Speaker 1>does it meant to you to see the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati and this area gets so excited about this team.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a wonderful moment for me. What our goal

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<v Speaker 1>is beyond winning on the field. That's how you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the next goal, which is to excite the city

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<v Speaker 1>and get our supporters feeling happy about how it's going

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoying it. Getting involved in the ways they do

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<v Speaker 1>that for me is a real treat and enjoying that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it as much as anything. Tyler Boyd recently

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<v Speaker 1>described how much he appreciates you attending every practice, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of the weather, regardless of the circumstances. You are always there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went on to say he enjoys going over

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<v Speaker 1>and as he put it, chopping it up with you,

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<v Speaker 1>having brief conversations with you. What did those interactions with

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<v Speaker 1>the mean to you. Well, as I've gotten older, I

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<v Speaker 1>know our players less well. I watched them. Tyler's one

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<v Speaker 1>I still get to talk to occasionally, and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he comes over and treats me as

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<v Speaker 1>buddy if you will for a moment or two. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And once upon a time I knew all the guys

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I signed them all every year I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were on a first name basis with me

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<v Speaker 1>from those days. These days a lot of them want

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<v Speaker 1>to call me mister Brown, and that's that puts me

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<v Speaker 1>a notice of where I am in life. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch them. I have nothing that I would

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to do more than sit and watch the team practice.

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<v Speaker 1>They're remarkable athletes. Enjoy the passing game. I enjoy watching

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and the defensive line when they get together. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just for me. What is the thing I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do best? Some people rather play golf, some people

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<v Speaker 1>rather collect stamps. I don't know that. This for me

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<v Speaker 1>is all that and more, and it's what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do and I'm lucky to have it. You'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>be on a golf cart next to the practice field

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<v Speaker 1>than on a beach in Acapulco. Well, I'd rather be

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<v Speaker 1>out with the players. I would. I don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>any desire and be to be an Alcapulco. But I

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<v Speaker 1>believe I'm very happy with what my lot is. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel fortunate, and the weather is the weather. I just

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<v Speaker 1>accept that part of it. In some ways makes it

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting because it presents challenges, and that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fun to see how that can be handled. The NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is big business, but it remains family business. In Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>You are experiencing this with your son, your daughter, your

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<v Speaker 1>son in law, two of your granddaughters. Does that add

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<v Speaker 1>to how meaningful this whole experience is? Oh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>my goal to be able to do this. My father didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been involved with this as his assistant and then

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<v Speaker 1>really for a while with him in his older days.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a big role in it really that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>recognized outside of here. And now it's gone to where

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<v Speaker 1>I ran it to where now I am passing it

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<v Speaker 1>on to Katie and Paul and Troy and the girls

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth and Caroline. They're smart, they work hard, they like it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the point now where I have to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to shut up more. What do you think your father

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<v Speaker 1>would think of the twenty twenty one Cincinnati Bengals. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have liked this team. This was his kind of team,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're wide open. We get some remarkable plays on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a defense that is solid, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pieces. Maybe we won't prevail every time out,

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<v Speaker 1>but believe me, they'll know they had to go and

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<v Speaker 1>this team can play with anybody. This was his dream

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four years ago when he bought professional football to

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati for the Bengals to be Super Bowl champions? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the motivation for you to realize his vision? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think of it in those terms. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as to what it means for the people here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what pleases me. I enjoy seeing them celebrate and

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<v Speaker 1>have fun. One of the things that was just first

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<v Speaker 1>straight for me. After the game in Kansas City where

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<v Speaker 1>we won the way we did, I was out in

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot on the bus. I go with the

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<v Speaker 1>players on the bus and I'm sitting there watching and

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<v Speaker 1>they're interacting with their families and their children, And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was about as good a time as I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do anything except watch to see them feeling

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<v Speaker 1>good about themselves and how it had gone. That was

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<v Speaker 1>what made me happy. Well, I share your happiness over

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<v Speaker 1>the excitement of Bengals fans, but I'm really happy for

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<v Speaker 1>you and I truly hope that we all get to

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<v Speaker 1>see you holding that Lombardi Trophy after a Bean Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl win over the Rams. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>your time, Congratulations on this great season, best of luck

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<v Speaker 1>on Super Bowl Sunday. Thanks Unfortunately, Mike didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>hold up the Lombardi Trophy this past February, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all like his chances within the next few years.

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