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Speaker 1: of my favorite fun facts interviews from this past season,

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Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with Bengals cornerback chitabey A Woogie.

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Speaker 1: I read that when you were a kid, you were

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Speaker 1: it impacted me so heavily. I definitely grew up with

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Speaker 1: So definitely that duality has raised me to understand others,

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Speaker 1: chittabe A Wugier many stories about you say that your

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Speaker 1: wouldn't disrespect the name grand Master up I put in

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Speaker 1: not the best mathematician like easy math. Yes, but if

426
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Speaker 1: we go in you know, equations, fractions, dancing, where things

427
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Speaker 1: get a little hectic for me. As long as you

428
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Speaker 1: know the value of a pick six, that's the only

429
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Speaker 1: Matthew you need to know. Absolutely, this has been fun.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Welcome to US Cincinnati investal luck

431
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Speaker 1: this year. Thank you. I'm excited to be a next

432
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Speaker 1: a baby faced kid who arguably had the best rookie

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Speaker 1: season of any kicker in NFL history. Go for some

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Speaker 1: fun facts with kicker Evan McPherson from Fort Payne, Alabama,

435
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Speaker 1: population roughly fifteen thousand in the northeast part of the state.

436
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Speaker 1: Describe Fort Payne and some of the things you like

437
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Speaker 1: about your hometown. It's a small town where how I'll

438
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Speaker 1: explain it is everybody kind of knows everybody. It was

439
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,239
Speaker 1: a lot of fun growing up. There not much going on,

440
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Speaker 1: and so all you're all you had to really focus

441
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Speaker 1: on was you know, your your sports and then uh

442
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: and then really church was a big thing in our

443
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Speaker 1: community too, and so you go church on Sunday and

444
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: then pretty much sports, um, every day of the week. Um.

445
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Speaker 1: But small town feel, um. You know, there's only one

446
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Speaker 1: school really in the city. And so everybody goes to

447
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: that one school and um, you pretty much know almost

448
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: everybody in the in the city. Sounds like Lakewood, New York,

449
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Speaker 1: where I grew up. Fort Payne is the home of

450
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Speaker 1: the band Alabama, one of the biggest selling country music

451
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Speaker 1: bands of all time. In fact, there is a museum

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Speaker 1: dedicated to the band in Fort Payne. Are you a

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Speaker 1: country music guy and have you ever gone into the museum? Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent a country music guy. If you

455
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Speaker 1: were to get in my car with me right now,

456
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Speaker 1: that's what would be on the radio. Um. Yeah, I

457
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Speaker 1: just grew up listening to it. Um, you know, being

458
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Speaker 1: for Fort paynees. Like you said, it's probably a big

459
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Speaker 1: part of our culture with the band Alabama being from

460
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Speaker 1: Fort Payne, and it's super cool just to um, you know,

461
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Speaker 1: I have them represent FOURT Payne in a great way

462
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Speaker 1: and you know, on the national country music stage. But

463
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Speaker 1: I've never been in the museum. I drive past it

464
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Speaker 1: every single day, but I've never actually been in it.

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Speaker 1: Something to look forward to on your next visit home.

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Speaker 1: We are chatting with Evan McPherson. You're from a family

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Speaker 1: of kickers. Your older brother was a college punter. Your

468
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Speaker 1: younger brother is headed to Auburn. He's considered to be

469
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Speaker 1: the top high school kicker in the country. How did

470
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Speaker 1: the McPherson boys become such good kickers? I mean, I

471
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Speaker 1: think it just comes down to us just playing a

472
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Speaker 1: lot of sports grown up, and the main one being soccer.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were out in the yard every day

474
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Speaker 1: shooting at a goal, just kind of working on our

475
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Speaker 1: legs strength then even though we didn't really realize how

476
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Speaker 1: we were going to use it, you know later down

477
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Speaker 1: the road. I think it just all started. You go,

478
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Speaker 1: playing soccer to young age and just continuing to play

479
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Speaker 1: it as we grew up. And then you know, when

480
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Speaker 1: my older brother got in the ninth grade, he went

481
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Speaker 1: out and tried out and just saw the kicker at

482
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Speaker 1: the time at the other field, at the other end

483
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: of the field kicking and he thought it was pretty cool,

484
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Speaker 1: and so he just went over and tried it out,

485
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: came home and told the family that he was going

486
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Speaker 1: to be the kicker, and he kind of went from there.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, I probably went outside that day and I

488
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Speaker 1: was like, I've never seen this before, and I probably

489
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: went out and tried it, and you know, the rest

490
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Speaker 1: is history. I mean ever since then, we turned our

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Speaker 1: soccer goal into uprights, and so that's kind of how

492
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Speaker 1: it's been since since then. I am the least handy

493
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Speaker 1: person in the world. I can barely change a light bulb.

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Speaker 1: How did you guys turn a soccer goal into basically

495
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Speaker 1: a makeshift goal post. Yeah, so we just had some

496
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Speaker 1: extra PVC pie laying around the house or around the

497
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: garage or something, and then we just grabbed him. UM

498
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: took some bungee cord and wrapped it tied around the

499
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Speaker 1: soccer goal post, and UM just tied it to the

500
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Speaker 1: soccer goal and that's kind of how we made it work.

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Speaker 1: Described the history of the high school state record for

502
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Speaker 1: longest field goal in Alabama, because it seems like it's

503
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Speaker 1: gone from brother to brother to brother. It has UM.

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Speaker 1: I know, when my older brother was in in high school,

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Speaker 1: I think the record might have been fifty six fifty six,

506
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Speaker 1: and for him to get the fifty seven was huge

507
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Speaker 1: at the time. You know, we're all excited for him,

508
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: and you know, it's really cool to have your name

509
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Speaker 1: in a record book, especially for for it to be

510
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Speaker 1: for the longest field goal UM in state history. And

511
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Speaker 1: so you know, after you hit that, obviously, then my

512
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: goal is to beat him. And you know, I really

513
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Speaker 1: got fortunate with you know, my coach give me the

514
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Speaker 1: opportunity to attempt long ones, and my senior year, I

515
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: broke his record, said it with a sixty yard field goal.

516
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Speaker 1: And then obviously from there, my little brother now his

517
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: goal is to break my record. And he's had so

518
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Speaker 1: many attempts over the course of his career. I mean,

519
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: his coaches out there letting him attempt seventy yard field goals,

520
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: which is which is pretty crazy. And he almost made

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00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: the seven yard field goal he attempted, but he came

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Speaker 1: up a little short. And then last week he hits

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Speaker 1: a sixty one yard field goal in the first quarter,

524
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Speaker 1: but his teammate false starts, so back him up to

525
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Speaker 1: sixty six, came up short, and then later in the

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Speaker 1: game he came back and hit another sixty one with

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Speaker 1: no false start. And so he broke my record last

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Speaker 1: last week, and so took my name out of the

529
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Speaker 1: record book, but same last name. And you know, I'm

530
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Speaker 1: super super excited for him, and you know, it just

531
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: shows it as a good coach. So that's awesome. We're

532
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: doing fun facts with Havan McPherson kicker's dream of walk

533
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Speaker 1: off kicks that win games. But your first walkoff moment

534
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: in sports was actually in soccer state championship. You're a

535
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Speaker 1: ninth grader. Tell me about the game winning goal and

536
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Speaker 1: what that moment meant to you. And that moment was

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00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: super special. We had five freshman starting on that team

538
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and just growing up with those those guys and playing

539
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: with them ever since we were probably seven years old.

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Speaker 1: It was just super special to to honestly win a

541
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Speaker 1: state championship with the team, but and then on top

542
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: of that, to score the game winning goal. It was

543
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Speaker 1: super special, a lot of fun. I mean, I gotta

544
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Speaker 1: give credit where credits to do. I mean, my teammates

545
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: did a great job putting me in the position to

546
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Speaker 1: score that goal. I had a great pass and all

547
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: I had to do is kind of go put my

548
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Speaker 1: head on it and flip it over the goal. But yeah,

549
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: that was such a special moment for me and I

550
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: guess for my sports career. People can watch the video

551
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and I recommend listening to the commentators as well.

552
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Speaker 1: They got very excited about that double overtime state championship

553
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: winning goal. We're talking to Vin McPherson, when it came

554
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: time to go to college, you chose to leave the

555
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: state of Alabama and become a Florida Gator. Why. You know,

556
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I really trusted in everything that coach Mullen was doing.

557
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Speaker 1: You know, I was committed to Mississippi State for over

558
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: a year, and that just kind of came down to

559
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Speaker 1: I mean, one, I really enjoyed Startville. I'll talk a

560
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: little bit about Mississippi State, but I really liked Starvilling,

561
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: the town that it was in, and but too like

562
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff, the strength staff. You know, I really

563
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: blended well with those guys and really liked what they

564
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: were doing, and I felt really confident in them, and

565
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: you know they felt confident in me. And so that's

566
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Speaker 1: really why I decide to go there. And then whenever

567
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: coach Mullen got the job at Florida, he calls me

568
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: the day landed and offered me a scholarship there. Um.

569
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Speaker 1: You know, I sat there and thought about it for

570
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: a couple of days, and then I was like, you know, um,

571
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: where my heart lies was kind of with the coaching

572
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: staff that went to Florida, and you know, I really

573
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: wanted to play in big games, and I thought, um

574
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Speaker 1: that Florida would give me the opportunity to play in

575
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: a lot bigger games than if I had gone to

576
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State. And you know, that's what it kind of

577
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: came down to. And you know, I felt, I guess

578
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: a little more comfortable at Florida just because I had

579
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Speaker 1: that that bond with the whole the whole staff that

580
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: was down there. You had a great career for Florida,

581
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Speaker 1: and then the Bengal selected you in the fifth round

582
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Speaker 1: of the draft, the only kicker selected in this year's draft.

583
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Speaker 1: Describe your draft day experience. Draft day was was awesome.

584
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Speaker 1: We had some people get together at the house to

585
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Speaker 1: watch because I had a pretty good idea that I

586
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Speaker 1: was going to get drafted, and you know, I was

587
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: hoping I would just didn't know where. It's kind of

588
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: a mystery. And the whole day it was pretty special.

589
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we had this Mexican restaurant in town where

590
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: I pretty much called my second home. I'm there whenever

591
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm back home, I'm there all the time. And you know,

592
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: they were kind enough to to cater food to the

593
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: house for everybody that was there, and I think, shoot,

594
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Speaker 1: we probably started sitting around the TV, probably fourth round

595
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: and just sitting around, sitting around the TV, just sitting

596
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Speaker 1: there with all my friends and family that I've all

597
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: supported me throughout my career was super special. And then

598
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, the fifth round, whenever it came around and

599
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: I got the phone call, whole place kind of erupted

600
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: and a super special moment for me. Um. Obviously my

601
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: fiance sitting a round by my side, and she's been

602
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: with me since my freshman year of high school, and

603
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: so she's she's watched me grow and help me grow,

604
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, into what I am today, And it was

605
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: honestly just a super special moment for everyone involved. Your

606
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: NFL career began with a bang as you kicked an

607
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: overtime game winning field goal to beat the Minnesota Vikings

608
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: at Paul Brown Stadium. Who was the most nervous you,

609
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: your parents or your fiance. I would probably say my

610
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: parents are a fiance for sure. I can't tell you

611
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: which one was probably more nervous, But I think I

612
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: was super confident in myself, so once I was really

613
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: nervous at all, I know they panned over to me

614
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: after they called the time out, and I was kind

615
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: of smiling. You know, I'm all super confident and my

616
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: abilities to make that kick. It's a pat in my

617
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: mind and on you. I was gonna do everything in

618
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: my power to put it through. You had a walkoff

619
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Speaker 1: game winner in your first home game, a walkoff game

620
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: winner in your second home game, and you thought you

621
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Speaker 1: had a walkoff game winner in your third home game

622
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: for a gust of wind led to a miss against

623
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Do you cringe when you see footage of

624
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: the postgame celebration. I don't think I cringe. I laugh

625
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: more than everything, because you know, you can't really do

626
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: anything about it now. It's it's it's in the past,

627
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: and so I kind of it's honestly more funny than

628
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: it is cringey to me, just based off of what

629
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: I felt in the moment. Thought it hit it well,

630
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: and I thought it was just gonna stay its course

631
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: and you know, split the uprights, but the wind had

632
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: different plants, and so that's definitely something I learned from.

633
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: And I don't think you'll see me celebrate early on

634
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: a field goal again. I do think we will be

635
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: seeing you celebrate game winning field goals again, though, that's

636
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: for sure. A few wildcard categories. To wrap up fun

637
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Speaker 1: Facts with Evan McPherson. You have a very youthful appearance.

638
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: Do you have any amusing stories about people not buying

639
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: that you are a professional football player? I got a couple,

640
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: I guess too. Um, since I've been here, it's funny because, um,

641
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: outside the facility, UM, Kevin Hubert, he's really you know,

642
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: taking me under his wing and you know, we'll go

643
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: golf a little. Or we went to the Friday night

644
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: you UC game and at the golf course, Um, we

645
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: were checking in getting our golf cart, and the guy

646
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: that was checking us in was like, UM, what he's like,

647
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: is this your son or something? And he's like he's

648
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: like no, he's just a guest. He's with me, all right.

649
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: That was my first experience hearing somebody say something like

650
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: that about me and Kevin. And then at the UC game,

651
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: the Friday night UC game, we go down and um,

652
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: we're talking to Kevin's X neighbor and she asked about

653
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: it was Kevin's nephew. Kevin was like, no, we're He

654
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: was like no, we're co workers. And so we go

655
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: on talking whatever, and she didn't believe it. Ever, he

656
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: said it and so Kevin's other friends knew who I

657
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: was and you as a kicker, and later on she

658
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: was like, so who are you really? Still wasn't still

659
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: wasn't buying it, and his other friends were like, he's

660
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: the kicker for the Bengals. And she's like what. She's like,

661
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. She's like, you looked like you're seventeen.

662
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean he looked like I'm seventeen, but

663
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two. And then the last one I'll give

664
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: you it was when we were at Detroit and I'll

665
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: walk out of the out of the locker room and

666
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: the security lady is sating right there and she's like,

667
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: do you have credentials? And I'm like, no, I'm a player,

668
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: she said. She said nah. She's like, I don't believe you.

669
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I need to see credentials. And I was like, well,

670
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm a picture on myself. I could show you because

671
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: I had my phone, and so I'll show her a picture.

672
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: He's like that's not enough, like I need to see credentials.

673
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: And luckily at that time Al Golden was walking out

674
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: and the lady said, hey, sirs, is he a player?

675
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, and so she'll let me go.

676
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: And finally got onto the field, and what it was funny?

677
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: And when I got to the field, they were giving

678
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: me a hard time. They wouldn't let me onto the field.

679
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: So those just a couple of instances. But um, you know, hopefully,

680
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: like you said, we'll be celebrating a lot of more

681
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: game winners and maybe people start to recognize me a

682
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: little more. Trust me, someday you'll be very happy you

683
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: have this youthful appearance. Who is your all time favorite

684
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: athlete in any sport? So I grew up really liking

685
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be funny Tom Brady. I was a Patriots

686
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: fan growing up. I really liked how he competed and

687
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: what he brought to the team and obviously how much

688
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: he won. And so he's probably one of my favorite

689
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: athletes growing up. But um, other than him, a wild

690
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: card that nobody really think of. His name is Ronald

691
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: Dino and he played for Barcelona AC Milan and I

692
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: appreciate you played for Brazil national team. He was my

693
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: favorite soccer player, I'd say, and whenever I was growing

694
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: up playing soccer, he was the guy that I really

695
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: looked at to I guess you could say, emulate last thing.

696
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman,

697
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: historical figure, whoever that might be, who would be at

698
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: the top of your list. Probably God. I think that

699
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: would be pretty cool. You can ask about that gust

700
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: of wind. Yeah, I'll ask him what was up with

701
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: that gust of wind against Green Bay? Because I was like,

702
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: I knew what my mind and what my body was

703
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: telling which way the wind was blown. But I was like,

704
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: I guess he had a different, different plan. So I'll

705
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: definitely ask him about that. This has been great. I

706
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: really appreciate your time. Congratulations on a great start and

707
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: best of like this year. Thank you. Before we get

708
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: to our next fun facts interview, here's a reminder that

709
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast just presented by Ultimate Bengals, the

710
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Speaker 1: free to play fantasy football game. This past season, Ultimate

711
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Speaker 1: Bengals awarded a weekly winner during the course of the

712
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714
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Speaker 1: Store and Google Play. Up next, the man who made

715
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: the term glass eaters famous. This offseason, time for some

716
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: fun facts with offensive line coach Frank Pollock born in

717
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: Camp Springs, Maryland, near Washington, DC, before attending high school

718
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona. Frank, where did you spend the bulk

719
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Speaker 1: of your childhood and what did you like to do

720
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: as a kid? A group in Phoenix. I moved out

721
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Speaker 1: there when I was two. My parents were in the

722
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: Navy and when they met and got married and had

723
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Speaker 1: me and we moved out to Phoenix. So our group

724
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: Phoenix seventies and eighties and love sports, love football right

725
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: from the get go, and just did all the sports

726
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid, like probably every other kid,

727
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: and just blast. I always assume and maybe it's stereotypical

728
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: that the child of military parents has a very disciplined

729
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: life as a kid. Was that the case for you? Yeah,

730
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they were military parents because they got

731
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: out like right after I was born, within two years,

732
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: because then my younger sister was born in the same

733
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Speaker 1: DC area and then we left, so I know, we

734
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: really remember my dad ever being in the military. I

735
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: was like two, so but yeah, I mean I was disciplined.

736
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Speaker 1: My dad grew up in Cleveland and then went to

737
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Benedict in high school and so kind of a you know,

738
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: midwestern upbringing out there in the West Coast. You know,

739
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: discipline was big in our house, and you know, so

740
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: he kept me in line off every got a little squirrelly.

741
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Frank Pollock. You're a big man.

742
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: You're a former NFL offensive lineman. Were you always the

743
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: big kid in the neighborhood? No, Actually, I was a

744
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: late bloomer. I was decent sized young with then by

745
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: the time I got the high school, everyone was taller,

746
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: bigger than me. It's funny to see someone my high

747
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: school JV team pictures and some of my good buddies

748
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: that they were all taller and bigger than me, and

749
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: now I tower over them. So I was a late

750
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: bloomer and grew a ton right before my senior year

751
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: and then obviously throughout college. When it came time for college,

752
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: he became a lumberjack at Northern Arizona University y NAU.

753
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: It was the only scholarship offer I had outside of

754
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: a couple of local junior colleges, so I took it

755
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: and ran with it. Northern Arizona has a remarkable record

756
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: of sending coaches to the NFL. Who did you overlap

757
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: with as a player and then as a young assistant coach. Yeah,

758
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate to be coached by some incredible

759
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: coaches early on in college. Are my office a line

760
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: coach my sophomore junior years was Bill Callahan and then

761
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: before him, actually for one year really my true sophomore year,

762
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: I had a late redshirt hardship there, but was Andy

763
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: Reid was my line coach before coach Callahan came in.

764
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: And then the see for most of those years. Four

765
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: out of the five was Brad childress Um Marty morney

766
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: Wig was a young GA running back coach on that staff.

767
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Steve Hagen, who coached a long time in the league

768
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: tight ends and receivers, was our was our receivers coach. Um.

769
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate. And then uh, they had a

770
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: few good coaches kind of came in after me when

771
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: I had left on a different staff. And actually Brad

772
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Craigthorpe's dad was on that staff. Uh, the younger Zampez

773
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: Ken Zampez was on that staff. I'm drawing a blank.

774
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: The head coach Carl Darelle at Colorado was on that staff.

775
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: All these young guys that have gone and have great career,

776
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: so um and hes had a lot. Mike Shanahan coach

777
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 1: there early in his career. Um, I'm drawing a blank.

778
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: Now I'm the old New England old line coach's Karnekia

779
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: He's he coached there early in his career. So it's

780
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of one of those unique, weird places. I always

781
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: call it the cradle to coaches on the West coast.

782
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: I know Miami of Ohio's got that title on the

783
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: east the Mississippi. I'm I'm gonna claim it on the

784
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: West Mississippi rightfully. So we're visiting the Frank Pollock. You

785
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: mentioned Bill Callaghan, who is the brother the dad I

786
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: should say of offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. He was Zach

787
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: Taylor's head coach at Nebraska. He is a big reason

788
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: why you became a coach. Correct, Yeah, he's He's He's

789
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: been huge impact on my life from a player in coaching.

790
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm a member writing him a letter when I was

791
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: playing that I wanted to come in GA for him

792
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin and then and he wrote me back a

793
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: nice letter saying that love to have you GA for me.

794
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: In fact, I saved that letter and years later when

795
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: I ended up coaching with him form in Dallas as

796
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: his assistant. I showed him that letter. He was flabbergast

797
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: that I still kept it. So he's been huge for me.

798
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Learned a ton and still learning a ton from him.

799
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: He's been been very fortunate in that regards. He learned

800
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: a degree in advertising. If you didn't get into coaching,

801
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: is that what you would have done? No, it was

802
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: the classic. I didn't want to I didn't want to

803
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: go down to the pe route. I wanted something a

804
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: little bit different. So I just decided advertising didn't have

805
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of math in it, like, yeah, I'll do that.

806
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I kind of always knew I wanted to coach.

807
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: I tried to stay away from it later in my

808
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: life and then got back into it. That's where my

809
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: badgion is. After being named an All American in Northern Arizona,

810
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: you were a sixth round draft pick by the forty

811
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Speaker 1: nine ers in nineteen ninety. Describe your draft experience. It

812
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: was funny you ask. It was a little different than

813
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: how they do things now, but it was kind of

814
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: a drawn out process over three days, and in fact,

815
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: it went like Saturday, Sunday, and Monday was kind of

816
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: like the last day. So my agent at the time

817
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: in Phoenix had a you know, a big to do

818
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: party and whatnot during the first day of the draft,

819
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: and he had a bunch of you know, high first

820
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: round draft guys. I knew I clearly was not going

821
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: to be taken that day, but just enjoyed the festivities.

822
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: But I was under the impression that maybe the next

823
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: day I might go. And then I didn't get any information,

824
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: and so I had to get up early on Monday

825
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: morning go to his office. He was a little kid

826
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Speaker 1: in Phoenix, and I was just a wreck. I mean,

827
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: we're getting into the later rounds. The sixth rounds gone,

828
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: the seventh rounds gone. This is about me. Had twelve rounds.

829
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: We're in like the ninth and tenth round. My agents

830
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: calling around teams. He calls the Washington Redskins and hits

831
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: up Charlie Castle. I guess he showed interest in me

832
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: pre draft draft and he goes, what do you mean

833
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: the Niners took him way back in the sixth round.

834
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Speaker 1: And he goes, what, they haven't even called him. And

835
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Speaker 1: he tells me that. I go, I'm not believing I

836
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: get a phone call. So he calls the Niners and

837
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, yeah, we're gonna call him. We were

838
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: just we just worked out a draft a trade, and

839
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: we haven't a chance to call him yet. So that's

840
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: sums up in a nutshell. It's like, you know, there's

841
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: some sixth round old line guy. We'll get back. We'll

842
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: get to him whenever we can get to him. So

843
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: that was kind of my draft experience, but nonetheless I

844
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: got my foot in the door. That might be the

845
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: greatest example of how the draft has changed that I

846
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: have ever heard. You were an NFL player for nine years,

847
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: seven in San Franz, two in Denver. You won a

848
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring with the ninety four San Francisco forty

849
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: nine Ers when they beat the Chargers. What do you

850
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: cherish the most about your experience as an NFL player?

851
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: The great teammates, the camaraderie with all my teammates. I

852
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: told the guys all the time, that's what you're gonna miss.

853
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: Number one, the great experiences and that we had. We

854
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: wanted a lot of football games. Loved my experiences with

855
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: all the different coaches that came through the Niners years

856
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: that I was there and in Denver, and then just

857
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: just those great experiences and being part of being able

858
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: to you know, play pro football. This is a dream

859
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: come true. And being able to be on such a

860
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: great winning organization again a championship there with the Niners

861
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: was tremendous. Something always uh, we're relish, we're doing fun

862
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: facts with Frank Pollock. The list of Hall of Fame

863
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: players that were your teammates is remarkable. I'm going to

864
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: name a few and I would like you to just

865
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: share a memory or a description, whatever comes to mind.

866
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: Joe Montana prankster. First thing it comes to my training camp,

867
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: you'd take guys bikes and throw them up into the trees.

868
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: He had at Rockland Community Sieri Community College in rock And, California,

869
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: because he didn't have to stay in late meetings. He

870
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: knew the skiss system so kind of an old veteran.

871
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: They led him out of the meetings early and you'd

872
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: find it was on the campus as like. He'd ride

873
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: bikes to the meetings back to the dorms and he

874
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: would put guys bikes in the trees. Great guy loved

875
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: to go out with the old line especially and take

876
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: him out, treat him out for some drinks and dinners.

877
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: And it was a lot of fun. Great guy. Did

878
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: he prank you, No, he never pranked me, but he

879
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: did save me from getting just abused as a rookie

880
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: from Charles Haley. But he was a guy was constantly

881
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: liked to pick on rookies. One day in the locker room,

882
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: we would sign his autograph footballs in front of the

883
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: equipment room every day. It was part of our deal.

884
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: And then Charles Haley sees me over there, so he's

885
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: just you know, taking his ribbings, getting his opportunities at

886
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: me as a rookie. And Joe lockers right there and

887
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: he said, hey, hey, Charles, leave him alone. And then

888
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a great guy. And

889
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: so Charles never messed me again because Joe told him

890
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: not to mess with the man. It's like, okay, I'll

891
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: take it. I have newfound respect for Joe. Montana. John Elway.

892
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: John el was another guy loved hanging out with the

893
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: old line. Good time guy loves loves to hang out

894
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: with the fellows. He was rehabbing his shoulder hit an

895
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: injury and then I was on an ir with the

896
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: back surgery that year, so at some point doing rehab

897
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: together like they have you off to the side. He

898
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: was gonna start throwing some balls, So they asked if

899
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I would just go stand over there and he's gonna

900
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: throw these deep out routes to him. I just had

901
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: to stand there. Oh my god. I mean he must

902
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: have been like thirty forty yards away, and how hard

903
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: he through. My hands were hurting in red and hurt afterwards.

904
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just trying to protect my face

905
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: from not getting just I mean, it is ridiculous how

906
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: hard that guy throws. That was like, like, wow, it's impressible.

907
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: They talk about the elway cross, the point on the

908
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: end of the football where you've got the scenes that

909
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: come together, and how he used to leave an indentation

910
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: of that cross on guy's chest and stuff that's legit

911
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: because he zipped the ball in there. Man, it was crazy.

912
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, unbelievable work ethic. I shared stuff like this

913
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: with my guys all the time. This guy was so talented,

914
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: but you were never ever going to outwork him. He

915
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: was just my niacole over it. Just relentless prepractice, post practice.

916
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: It was it got He's just an animal. On how

917
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: he would work out in his conditioning, his work ethic

918
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Unbelievable. Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott is one of

919
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: my most favorite individuals. I got the utmost respect for

920
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: that guy for how he was on the field and

921
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: in the locker room, but him afterwards, years later before

922
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: I got on the coach and I got to do

923
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: some business stuff with him and got to learn just

924
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: get to know him little bit better. Such a class

925
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: to act and just a man, a man's man, a gentleman.

926
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: He does a lot for the community with his all

927
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: star helping kids charity. He's genuine, he's He taught me

928
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: as an early player leadership from the locker room and

929
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: chemistry matters more than anything on a football team. I

930
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: played with him for two years and when he left

931
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, we had a slow start the next

932
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: year and we had a team only players meeting and

933
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm a young guy. I'm as when they're listening, and

934
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: all the old guys our leaderships then got up in

935
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: every one of them to a man reference where Ronnie

936
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: would say this, Ronnie would do that. He wasn't on

937
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: our team anymore. I'm like, when I coach someday, never

938
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: forget that. So it's all about leadership got come from

939
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: the players, and chemistry matters more than anything. Line one,

940
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: culture matters. Gan Sanders he was. He came in with

941
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: all the hype right primetime. You're like, what's this guy

942
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like? You know? And then when he came in,

943
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: he was just like one of the guys that all

944
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: that was just his persona off the field to get

945
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: himself endorsements. He was just a regular guy, worked his

946
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: butt off. His work ethic was right up there with

947
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the fellas and how we ran things there,

948
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: and his talent and speed were incredible. We had a

949
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: pretty good player. Dexter Carter was our kick returner, first

950
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: round draft pick out of Florida State, same year as me.

951
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: Fast and he was good. And then Dion got there,

952
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: well he's gonna start returning kicks, and then you could

953
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: literally see the difference of speed and I'm like, oh

954
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: my god, That's when I ever realized how fast he was,

955
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: and some of these players in this league was We

956
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: could literally see the difference where Dexter Carter is not slow,

957
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: he's fast, and you're like, holy cow, up close and

958
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: seeing that, and he would lay out his whole uniform,

959
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: pregame ritual, his shoes, his socks, like it was like

960
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: one of them chalk lines of a dead body. His pants,

961
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: his band dans, his sweet towels, all that laid out,

962
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: his wrist bands on his elbows and wrist whatever it was,

963
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: his gloves, his helmet, That's how he would he would

964
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: lay it out and he would walk around the locker

965
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: room and dollars signed boxer shorts to get getting ready

966
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: for a game. And it was kind of like where

967
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: I learned. Also, is like every players got their own

968
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: unique way to get themselves ready. They're all professionals. You

969
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: just have their own unique way getting So I was

970
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: ready to play a fantastic player. You don't do that

971
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: with your clothes. Now, I don't. I don't have the

972
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: physique or a skill set he had. I keep my

973
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: IKEA clever it up there all right. A couple of

974
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: wild card categories to wrap things up. Who is your

975
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: all time favorite athlete in any sport? Jeez, that's a

976
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: great question. I was a big Cowboy fan growing up,

977
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: so I love twenty doors set Roger stall Back. We

978
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: didn't have any professional sports teams set the Suns, so

979
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: at the time that the Sons. Is a big Walter

980
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Davis fan, and then I was a Dodgers fan, so

981
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: Dusty Baker was my favorite player growing up in the seventies.

982
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Those are really the guys I idolized at the time

983
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid. Do you have any hidden

984
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: talents or off field interests that might surprise us? My

985
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: wife would definitely say, I have no hidden talents whatsoever.

986
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm worthless at home. I got I can't do anything,

987
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: So I would say probably not, except I do like

988
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: to golf a little bit on my time off in

989
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: the summer. But I'm horrible, but I love it. It's

990
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: fun to get outside and a beautiful setting on a

991
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: golf course and drink and eat while you play. It's

992
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: always fun to do that. If you're horrible but you

993
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: love it, we'll play. We'd be a good match. Last thing.

994
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: And this is kind of deep. If you could meet

995
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman, politician, religious figure, whatever

996
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: it might be, who would that person be. That's a

997
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: great question, and I've always I have pondered that if

998
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: I could go back in time, and I'd always want

999
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: to go back in time to meet some of the

1000
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: legendary athletes and coaches. And then so with my position

1001
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: right now, I have to say Vince Lombardi and just

1002
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: pick his brain on his approach to the game and

1003
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: practice and just experience and meet a guy like him

1004
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: what he's done so much to the sport and person.

1005
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: But really anybody. I'm a real big sports historian, h

1006
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: I love that stuff. So I'd love to meet any

1007
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: of those guys. I mean, Babe Ruth, who would not

1008
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: want to go back in time and just just to

1009
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: be able to be around Babe Ruth. I mean, he

1010
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: was heard he's pretty fun too to be around. But

1011
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: Vincent Brie is the first guy that comes to mind.

1012
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Just would love to pick his brain on everything that

1013
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: he'd done, And I can't. I'd be remiss if I

1014
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: didn't mention Paul Brown, all right, So he would. He's

1015
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: incredible how much he's invented for this game. Um, and

1016
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: since since I come to the Bengals and learn a

1017
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: little bit more about him, already knew some of the

1018
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: stuff that he's done and created invented. But he'd be

1019
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: another guy to be really cool. We have a I

1020
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: guess mister Brown upstairs has got a lot of his

1021
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: artifacts and memorabilia upstairs, and my first time I was here,

1022
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: I got to go check out some of that stuff.

1023
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: I know some of those things. I'm his writings are

1024
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: up there. I'd love to go up there one of

1025
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: these days in the off season and read some of

1026
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: his notes on plays and whatnot. This has been great.

1027
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: It's awesome to have you back on the Bengals coaching staff.

1028
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: Continued success and thanks for the time. Thank you very

1029
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Much's awesome to beback. Appreciate it. My final favorite interview

1030
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: from this past season was with Bengals president Mike Brown.

1031
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: We sat down in his office shortly before the Bengals

1032
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: headed to Los Angeles for Super Bowl fifty six. Mike,

1033
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: football has been your life personally and professionally. Can you

1034
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: articulate what this Super Bowl trip means to you? What's

1035
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: very satisfying. Our team came together and we've had a

1036
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: string of amazingly close games. They were exciting. We prevailed

1037
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: in four of them, really to get to this point.

1038
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: Twice against Kansas City, the first one here and we

1039
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: had to win that one to win the division and

1040
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. And just as pleased as it's

1041
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: possible to be. If you're in my position, this is

1042
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: what your goal is in life. And here we are.

1043
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: We have a chance to win a big winning That

1044
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: would be great if we could pull it off. But

1045
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: it's an exciting time for me and for all the

1046
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: people here with the Bengals. At what point did you

1047
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: think that this team could be a contender. Well, Joe

1048
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Burrow makes you think you can win any game that

1049
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: you go into, and we have amazing white outs. We've

1050
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: got three guys that are just tremendous. That gives us

1051
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: a live offense. These days in the NFL, the goal

1052
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: is to score thirty points or more. That's what you

1053
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: need to win it. You can even lose it that figure,

1054
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: but if you can get there with enough defense to

1055
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: go with it, you prevail. And we did Noise get there.

1056
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: We did Noise prevail. But as we went along, our

1057
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: confidence built because you could see we could play with anybody.

1058
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: And then we got to the point where we were

1059
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: winning these close games. And here we are. We'll see

1060
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: what happens next, but this is a good group of players,

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: a good group of people, and they look forward to

1062
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: see what happens out in La Mike. When your father's

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00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are winning championships. His quarterback was Autogram, the

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00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady of his era winning seven championships. Does Joe

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00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: Burrow remind you of Autogram in any way they compete?

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: They just performed best when the pressure is greatest. And

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: remember having utter confidence and Auto grammart somehow, some way

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00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: he would get us where we needed to go. And

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00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: the same as true with Joe. Joe finds the way

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00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: and the players believe in him here, just as the

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: old Browns players believed in Otto. They thought that they

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00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: were going to do it. They had confidence, and Otto

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: was the one that instilled that, just as Joe does

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00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: with our guys these days. I don't know if you've

1075
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: ever seen the movie Jerry McGuire, but there's a cheesy

1076
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: line in it where the female character says to Tom Cruise,

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00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: the sports agent, you had me at hello when you

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00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: met with Joe Burrow at the NFL scouting combine? Did

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: he have you at hello? He was focused, and he

1080
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: wasn't very interested in small talk. Zach did some football

1081
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: discuss with him then and at another time as well,

1082
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: I think, and you perked up when you saw him,

1083
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: and how he conducted him, so he has a air

1084
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: about him that calls for respect. When he came here,

1085
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: he earned that. Everyone believes in him here. That's what

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: you want from your quarterback. After clinching the AFC North,

1087
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor gave you and your wife Nancy a game

1088
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: ball and said if he was working for a different owner,

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00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: he probably would not have had a third year as

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00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: the head coach. What did you see that gave you

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00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: confidence that Zach ultimately would be successful. He's organized, he's

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00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: a good person, He's knowledgeable about football. He was young

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00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: and went through some things. But quite honestly, we were

1094
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: injured the year with Joe and the team was injured,

1095
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: and that was what set us back more than anything.

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00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: But you could see the basic structure was what I

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00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: hope for. He knows the passing game and that's where

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00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: the NFL is these days, and he teams well with Joe.

1099
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: They both believe in each other. I never thought that

1100
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: there was any question that he was capable of doing this.

1101
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: So it's off to Super Bowl fifty six in Los Angeles.

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00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: Do you typically attend the Super Bowl? I used to.

1103
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm old now and so I don't. I have in

1104
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: recent years, had get together with a group of friends

1105
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: and we sit and watch and have a nice time

1106
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: at home. Here Katie has taken over. She goes to

1107
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I've seen that stick and it's quite amazing.

1108
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: It's fun, but I've done it enough times that I'm

1109
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: ready to hand it off to Katie. I covered a

1110
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl years ago where Marv Levy, the Buffalo Bills coach,

1111
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: refused to pose for a picture with the Lombardi Trophy

1112
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: before the game. He thought it was bad luck. Have

1113
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: you ever held the Lombardi Trophy? No? Have you dreamed

1114
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: of that moment where the commissioner hands you the Lombardi

1115
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: Trophy after a Bengal Super Bowl win? Oh? I don't

1116
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: dream of such things. Yes, I know that's what you

1117
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: would like to have happened, But I don't have night

1118
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: thoughts along those slides. I didn't live here in nineteen

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: eighty one or nineteen eighty eight, but Dave Lappham has

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01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: dis gribe for me what the city was like when

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01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals were going to those two Super Bowls. What

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: does it meant to you to see the city of

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and this area gets so excited about this team.

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01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: This is a wonderful moment for me. What our goal

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01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: is beyond winning on the field. That's how you get

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01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: to the next goal, which is to excite the city

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: and get our supporters feeling happy about how it's going

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01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: and enjoying it. Getting involved in the ways they do

1129
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: that for me is a real treat and enjoying that

1130
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: part of it as much as anything. Tyler Boyd recently

1131
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: described how much he appreciates you attending every practice, regardless

1132
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: of the weather, regardless of the circumstances. You are always there,

1133
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: and he went on to say he enjoys going over

1134
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: and as he put it, chopping it up with you,

1135
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: having brief conversations with you. What did those interactions with

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01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: the mean to you. Well, as I've gotten older, I

1137
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: know our players less well. I watched them. Tyler's one

1138
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: I still get to talk to occasionally, and I appreciate

1139
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he comes over and treats me as

1140
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: buddy if you will for a moment or two. It's fun.

1141
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: And once upon a time I knew all the guys

1142
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: I had. I signed them all every year I did that,

1143
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: and they were on a first name basis with me

1144
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: from those days. These days a lot of them want

1145
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: to call me mister Brown, and that's that puts me

1146
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: a notice of where I am in life. But it's

1147
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: fun to watch them. I have nothing that I would

1148
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: prefer to do more than sit and watch the team practice.

1149
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: They're remarkable athletes. Enjoy the passing game. I enjoy watching

1150
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: the offensive line and the defensive line when they get together. Oh,

1151
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: it's just for me. What is the thing I like

1152
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: to do best? Some people rather play golf, some people

1153
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: rather collect stamps. I don't know that. This for me

1154
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: is all that and more, and it's what I want

1155
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: to do and I'm lucky to have it. You'd rather

1156
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: be on a golf cart next to the practice field

1157
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: than on a beach in Acapulco. Well, I'd rather be

1158
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: out with the players. I would. I don't have anything

1159
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: any desire and be to be an Alcapulco. But I

1160
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: believe I'm very happy with what my lot is. I

1161
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: feel fortunate, and the weather is the weather. I just

1162
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: accept that part of it. In some ways makes it

1163
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: more interesting because it presents challenges, and that's sort of

1164
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: fun to see how that can be handled. The NFL

1165
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: is big business, but it remains family business. In Cincinnati.

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01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: You are experiencing this with your son, your daughter, your

1167
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: son in law, two of your granddaughters. Does that add

1168
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: to how meaningful this whole experience is? Oh, it was

1169
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: my goal to be able to do this. My father didn't.

1170
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: I've been involved with this as his assistant and then

1171
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 1: really for a while with him in his older days.

1172
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: I had a big role in it really that wasn't

1173
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: recognized outside of here. And now it's gone to where

1174
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: I ran it to where now I am passing it

1175
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: on to Katie and Paul and Troy and the girls

1176
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Elizabeth and Caroline. They're smart, they work hard, they like it,

1177
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: and it's the point now where I have to learn

1178
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: to shut up more. What do you think your father

1179
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: would think of the twenty twenty one Cincinnati Bengals. He

1180
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: would have liked this team. This was his kind of team,

1181
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: and we're wide open. We get some remarkable plays on offense,

1182
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: we have a defense that is solid, we have a

1183
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: lot of pieces. Maybe we won't prevail every time out,

1184
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: but believe me, they'll know they had to go and

1185
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: this team can play with anybody. This was his dream

1186
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: fifty four years ago when he bought professional football to

1187
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Cincinnati for the Bengals to be Super Bowl champions? Is

1188
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: that part of the motivation for you to realize his vision? Honestly,

1189
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't think of it in those terms. I think

1190
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: of it as to what it means for the people here.

1191
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: That's what pleases me. I enjoy seeing them celebrate and

1192
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: have fun. One of the things that was just first

1193
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: straight for me. After the game in Kansas City where

1194
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: we won the way we did, I was out in

1195
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: the parking lot on the bus. I go with the

1196
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: players on the bus and I'm sitting there watching and

1197
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: they're interacting with their families and their children, And for me,

1198
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: that was about as good a time as I could have.

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything except watch to see them feeling

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: good about themselves and how it had gone. That was

1201
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: what made me happy. Well, I share your happiness over

1202
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: the excitement of Bengals fans, but I'm really happy for

1203
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: you and I truly hope that we all get to

1204
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: see you holding that Lombardi Trophy after a Bean Super

1205
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: Bowl win over the Rams. Thank you so much for

1206
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: your time, Congratulations on this great season, best of luck

1207
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: on Super Bowl Sunday. Thanks Unfortunately, Mike didn't get to

1208
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: hold up the Lombardi Trophy this past February, but I

1209
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: think we all like his chances within the next few years.

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: That's going to do it. For this episode of The

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