WEBVTT - Recapping Loss in Pittsburgh, Antoine Winfield Jr. Getting Sacks | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bucks Insider Live. Casey Phillips here with senior

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<v Speaker 1>writer and editor Scott Smith. We're here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>everything Buccaneers related, from the game that did not go

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<v Speaker 1>as we had wanted it to go, to this upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>game that we will hope we'll go a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course to answer all of your Facebook questions,

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<v Speaker 1>those later in the show. So for now, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>start with the takeaways on this game of Now that

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<v Speaker 1>we've had a few days to digest the unfortunate outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the big things that stand out

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Well, Casey, it's just most a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>NFL games come down to one score or just a

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<v Speaker 1>few points, and no matter who is favored or by

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<v Speaker 1>how much, it's still a lot of them come down

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<v Speaker 1>to that. And that means that a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>games come down to a handful of plays one team makes,

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<v Speaker 1>some one doesn't, and a lot of times those key

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<v Speaker 1>plays are and what coaches like to call situational f ball,

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<v Speaker 1>third downs, red zone, short yardage, two minute drills, and

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<v Speaker 1>short yards including two point conversions, and the Buccaneers have

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<v Speaker 1>already lost two games by two points in which they

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<v Speaker 1>could have tied the game with a two point conversion

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<v Speaker 1>and did not. The Buccaneers just simply didn't make the

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<v Speaker 1>plays in those key moments, and the most glaring of those,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously were the third and elevens and longer four of

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<v Speaker 1>them almost consecutively that Mitchell Drabinsky and the Steelers were

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<v Speaker 1>able to convert, and Coach Bull said on Monday that

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<v Speaker 1>he knows exactly what happened, of course he does, after

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<v Speaker 1>watching the film on each of those four plays, and

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<v Speaker 1>in each one of them it was a different player

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<v Speaker 1>who made the critical mistake. Uh. It's disappointing, obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers certainly expected to win against a one in

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<v Speaker 1>five team that had a secondary depleted by injuries, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did not make the plays in those key moments

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<v Speaker 1>in situational football, and that is probably what has to

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<v Speaker 1>change for the Buccaneers to get back on track. Three

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<v Speaker 1>and three first place in the NFC South. That's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the optimal stick way to look at it, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>also lost three of their last four games, and a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of those I felt like they were very winnable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that in particular, we talked going into

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<v Speaker 1>the game about how depleted that Stealers secondary was, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we assumed this could be a get right

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<v Speaker 1>game for the Buccaneers offense that has so much potential

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<v Speaker 1>and we've seen it with you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the same people put up thirty plus a game pretty consistently,

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<v Speaker 1>and to see the especially the struggles early on getting

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<v Speaker 1>that going. And so what did you see happen this game?

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<v Speaker 1>And not only not maybe being able to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the secondary that was pretty depleted, but even some

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<v Speaker 1>of your more go to guys like Chris Godwin, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw I think he was only one of six in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the early targets to him. So what did

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<v Speaker 1>you see happening from the passing game and particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>longer passing game that wasn't clicking. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best game for some of those guys, including

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady. Um, Tom Brady has been awesome and actually

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<v Speaker 1>the the the uh passing game was sort of getting

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<v Speaker 1>right before that game through Tom Brady through for three

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty one yards and three touchdowns. Against Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>he threw for another three fifty and the win against

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta had just the one touchdown. Because red zone has

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<v Speaker 1>become a problem in the last couple of games and

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<v Speaker 1>was again here, so it was surprising. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that they were unable to make these connections even if

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh defense was playing a sort of game that

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<v Speaker 1>was intended to try to take away the big plays.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why Tom Brady kept trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Chris Godwin early on and they just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>hook up, which is uncharacteristic because those two over the

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<v Speaker 1>time Tom Brad's been here, have had a great connection

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they will continue. I'm not worried in

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<v Speaker 1>the long run that that's not gonna work. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris ended up catching six catches for yards, which would

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<v Speaker 1>normally seem like a good day, but he was targeted

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<v Speaker 1>twelve times, so that's not great efficiency. But Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike Evans to Chris Godwin is still what this

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<v Speaker 1>offense is all about and what is going to carry

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<v Speaker 1>us forward. I believe in The amazing thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>is it's hard to believe that we're watching these two

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<v Speaker 1>guys at the same time together on the same offense

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, And if you look at this list here,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we know Mike Evans is the leading receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>franchise history by a long shot. Chris Godwin is about

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<v Speaker 1>to become number two, number one of everybody that's not

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<v Speaker 1>named Mike Evans. He only needs thirties six more yards

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<v Speaker 1>to pass a buccaneer legend and Kevin House and six

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<v Speaker 1>more to pass Mark Harrier. And the only guy who

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<v Speaker 1>would have more yards than him in team history is

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<v Speaker 1>his teammate Mike Evans, Which I think it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>snuck up on me a little bit that we have

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<v Speaker 1>one in two. Are we're as soon gonna have one

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<v Speaker 1>in two in franchise instory? Yeah, that means it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a fun time to be a buck stand two watching

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<v Speaker 1>all of these receiving yards. Yeah. Um, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Winfield Jr. Has definitely been a bright spot on

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<v Speaker 1>this team in this defense, no matter what has been

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the games or how many points allowed

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<v Speaker 1>or anything that he has seemed to me maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>most consistent player on defense is Yeah, you would agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that, So tell me what you've seen from him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that we can be saying that about

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's essentially having to play a new role

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<v Speaker 1>and is still such a young player is amazing to me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most telling thing about this is that

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<v Speaker 1>with Logan Ryan out and then Mike Edwards out, the

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<v Speaker 1>what they didn't Okay, So when we had both those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Winfield and Mike Edwards would start at safety and

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<v Speaker 1>base packages and then in sub packages like the nickel,

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<v Speaker 1>which you usually are in about seventy percent at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's almost your really your base defense. Antoine Winfield

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<v Speaker 1>goes down to become the slot corner and Logan first

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<v Speaker 1>Logan Ryan and then Kean O'Neill came in to be

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<v Speaker 1>the third safety. With Logan Ryan and Mike Edwards out,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't take Antoine Winfield back and make him a

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<v Speaker 1>safety the snaps and put in a third quarterback into

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<v Speaker 1>the slot. They kept winfielding his role and put the

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<v Speaker 1>very inexperienced d Delaney a cornerback at safety. That is

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<v Speaker 1>because they did not want to mess with what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening with Anton Winfield and they had this new role

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<v Speaker 1>for him where he's a safety and a slot corner,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is making impact plays every single game, including

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<v Speaker 1>a sack in this last one, and you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him in that role. Look at this over.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the only defensive back in the NFL, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>including all these three guys. Here are five guys here

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<v Speaker 1>who has double digit sacks in each of the last

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<v Speaker 1>three seasons, which which for him, are his only three

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<v Speaker 1>NFL seasons. But here's another thing in addition to this

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<v Speaker 1>that might amaze you. He's got eight point of sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>How far away do you think that Antoin Winfield is

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<v Speaker 1>from being the Bucks all time leader among safeties and sacks. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're asking, probably pretty close, right, he's already got it. Whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>he's that's the most sacks any Buckaneer safety has ever

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<v Speaker 1>had in his career. That's two years and six games.

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<v Speaker 1>That is incredible, what a statistic. Like. John Lynch was

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing player. He's in the Hall of Fame. He

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<v Speaker 1>used to have the record at six because they just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't blitz him. All right. That's the best part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is the role he's being put in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that bowls sets them up, and that's what the guys

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<v Speaker 1>talk about about why they love Bowls scheme. It sets

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<v Speaker 1>them up to make so many of those splash plays

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<v Speaker 1>at all different positions. And I think was it Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Foote who was saying the other week about how they

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<v Speaker 1>look for Tursday mornings, like, is my name gonna get called?

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<v Speaker 1>I want? I want to be the guy? Yeah. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>the better comparison for Antoine than the other safeties in

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<v Speaker 1>the league is Randey Barber, because Randey Barber played that

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<v Speaker 1>slot role and they blitzed him a lot, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he had a billion sacks I mean his I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and just an amazing number for a defensive back. That's

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<v Speaker 1>more what Antoine Field is chasing, right, Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think I saw that he's tied among all defensive backs

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<v Speaker 1>in the league this year for Secon Yeah, for three

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<v Speaker 1>and we're six games in, so it could be five,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be six by the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he can add a couple of picks to

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. He was already a pro bowler last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've made the prediction on our Salty Dogs podcast

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<v Speaker 1>before the season that I thought antro Winfield would be

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<v Speaker 1>a first team APL PROB. Yeah. I think hes got

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<v Speaker 1>to have counting numbers for for the voters to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for you, So he needs more sax and a few

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<v Speaker 1>more picks and they'll have a shot. Okay, And then

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of mentioned this earlier in the show, But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you know football fans, They're passionate and

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<v Speaker 1>that occasionally can mean a bit of a skies falling mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fair, it's understandable. Nobody likes to lose. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that this is at three and three, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not where the Bucks wanted to be or hoped to

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<v Speaker 1>be at this point in the season. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>see as what this means for where we're at and

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward of can they still accomplish what they want

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplish at three? Aid? Like I said before, three

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<v Speaker 1>and three and three doesn't feel great because you're one

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<v Speaker 1>in three in your last four and a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>games there that you really felt like you probably should

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<v Speaker 1>have won. That being said, if you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>the glass half full, look at it. They are tied

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<v Speaker 1>for the division lead with Atlanta, who looks to be

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<v Speaker 1>better than you expect. But we already have a win

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<v Speaker 1>over them. We already have a win over New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a shot to make it a first

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<v Speaker 1>half sweep in the division this weekend against Carolina. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different sites that have NFL playoff

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<v Speaker 1>odds on them. One of the most prominent five thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>They often they do a lot of election stuff too,

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<v Speaker 1>their playoff odds or i'm sorry, their division winning odds.

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<v Speaker 1>For the Buccaneers, they still have US at and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the third that's the third best of all the eight

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<v Speaker 1>division leaders. Because some of these quite frankly, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these teams have a lot more competition. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles are six and oh and their record, their their

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<v Speaker 1>playing fids are below us. Because Giants are five. One

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas is four and two. It's got to be frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying anything about the other teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks Division, but by record at least there it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the toughest division in the league. And the Buckneers

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<v Speaker 1>already have a two and old record against division opponents.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're about to play a Carolina team that recently

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<v Speaker 1>fired its head coach and has tons of injuries at

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position. You obviously cannot go. They're expecting to

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<v Speaker 1>win just because of that because we just saw what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Pittsburgh. That being said, if the Buccaneers can

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<v Speaker 1>fix a few things, they should have a good shot

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<v Speaker 1>at going three and old in the division this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me what those things are in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>that you most want to see this weekend against Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>and and maybe the chances of being able to fix

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<v Speaker 1>them in essentially one week that there's, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what they know they need to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>can it actually happened this weekend. Tempted to say running games,

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<v Speaker 1>since the Buccaneers are last in the league in the

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<v Speaker 1>arts per game, and I'm not sure they've really need

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<v Speaker 1>to be a great running team in order. They really

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been a great running team the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>but still had the highest scoring offense in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I would say is probably red zone.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last few games, the Bucks are I think

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<v Speaker 1>three of nine or three of eight and something like

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<v Speaker 1>that in the red zone if that means scoring touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to score touchdowns. The Buccaneers had the ball

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<v Speaker 1>about six inches from the goal line in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>The second of one brought into power package lost three

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<v Speaker 1>yards third down. Tom Brady got sacked your six inches

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<v Speaker 1>from the end zone and you settle for three points

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<v Speaker 1>and you lose the game by two. Kind of easy

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<v Speaker 1>to connect the dots there, So red zone would be

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. The other thing that's confounding is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but sometimes you're watching a game

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not going exactly how you want, but you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this has got to turn around, and you say, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>always says, boy, this would be a good time for

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<v Speaker 1>a for an interception. Where are the takeaways? The Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>have not had it. They've had one takeaway in their

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<v Speaker 1>last three games. And this is a Todd Bowles defense

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<v Speaker 1>that is among the league leaders in takeaways since he

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<v Speaker 1>got here. It's it's part of the DNA of this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are they They're gone, there's no takeaways. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird note and it's partially positive. But the last

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<v Speaker 1>two games, neither team has committed a turnover in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>That's only the second time in team history that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks have gone two straight games in which neither team

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<v Speaker 1>committed a turnover. So it's weird, and obviously you like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the offense hasn't turned the ball over,

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<v Speaker 1>but where are the turners and defense? So give me some,

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<v Speaker 1>give me, give me a little bit of success and

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<v Speaker 1>red zone, which I think they can fix by self

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<v Speaker 1>scouting and seeing what's working best and what's not. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know how you you can't really coach turnovers,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need to get some more. Turnovers are so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because sometimes they're fluky, right that there was the

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<v Speaker 1>forced fumble, but then they fell on it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sometimes a tipped pass that you could have

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<v Speaker 1>intercepted if it hadn't been tipped. You know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>just some weird things about it. But then I know

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<v Speaker 1>that they wouldn't say that that's acceptable because that's always

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<v Speaker 1>the case. And they've gotten more, you know, turnovers and

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways in the past. The Bucks are about I think

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<v Speaker 1>tied for fourth something or like that in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways with nine, but five of those came in one

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<v Speaker 1>game in New Orleans and four of them were in

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<v Speaker 1>one quarter, so they definitely come in. Bunches were in

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<v Speaker 1>a drought. Now we need to go from drought to bunches,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, that is going to do it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>On this edition of Buccaneers, Insider Live. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being with us. Enjoy the game this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week. M