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Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast smells like middle aged spirit

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Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. My name is Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: In a room stuffed with heroes. Here we've got Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon, and for the first time in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling Podcast Studio, one of the most powerful men in

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Speaker 1: the NFL who roots for one of the most powerful

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Speaker 1: teams in Miami Dolphins. Right, it's Henry Hodgson. Correct on

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Speaker 1: the second count, not the first count. Well, they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're right at the top of the news. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: just dot dot dive right in there here. That's why

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Speaker 1: you're here, Henry. But you should have been here before.

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Speaker 1: It is nice to have people here in the podcast

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling Podcast studio for the first time. It's

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Speaker 1: beautiful to be here. And and Clay Bond backed we

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Speaker 1: realized that you hadn't even I don't think that did

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Speaker 1: a podcast with us until last week in the studio either,

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Speaker 1: just continuing my mission to sit in all of these

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Speaker 1: chairs one by one. I'm sick of like the Zoom podcast,

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Speaker 1: and even when it's just me, you and Dan doing

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Speaker 1: it market and sometimes you got it because of life

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Speaker 1: comes in but that's not it. I like the flexibility

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Speaker 1: of it. Um, I'm with you it it grew tired

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Speaker 1: in it and what it was UM doing them from home.

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Speaker 1: I like, Also, Henry is wearing these all these official

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Speaker 1: badges today. I know. I just but before I we

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Speaker 1: just before we started, said to Patrick, no one else

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Speaker 1: is wearing this show, I'd take them off and he

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Speaker 1: said no, just so that we could have this conversation.

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Speaker 1: You know what happened. I just wanted you to be comfortable,

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Speaker 1: like to thank you. I had my badge UM in

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Speaker 1: my car, which I did just keep it for easy

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Speaker 1: access to get into the building, right. Yeah, And my

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Speaker 1: car was broken into UM in my driveway and I

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Speaker 1: I discovered like all my way just like it was,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days ago. And like, but

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Speaker 1: my car isn't list a new it's a new least car,

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Speaker 1: so I have nothing in it. So the robber was

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Speaker 1: clearly annoyed because like they rifled through the papers and

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Speaker 1: they took nothing except my NFL best Yeah. If if

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Speaker 1: they would have done this a month ago or like

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Speaker 1: before the super Bowl, that would have been an international incident.

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Speaker 1: It's been a problem right now and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what they're you mean to do now, but what if

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Speaker 1: for the show late to the week, in the week

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Speaker 1: or or um the TV show, if if that person

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Speaker 1: shows up in your bright I wasn't I saw kind

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Speaker 1: of this sketchy guy, you know, middle aged guy doing

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Speaker 1: expenses and watching Ninjio at a random I mean, if

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Speaker 1: that was if he wants to do my share of work,

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Speaker 1: I would be absolutely fine with it. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: you buried that lead. You didn't even mention that to us.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've had your car broken. I'm so

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even that. That's that's happened more than once

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Speaker 1: to you. What your car getting broken into? No, that

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Speaker 1: was you, Henry, right, wasn't your car? Maybe it was West?

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Speaker 1: He left? Yeah, you tweeted about this whole night. But

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Speaker 1: you wearing the lanyard actually yet lanyards, I should say,

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Speaker 1: because Henry's got the I D and the contact keeping

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Speaker 1: thing that shows if you're too close, which you are

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Speaker 1: right now to clay By. West would have hated this

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Speaker 1: setup because he famously refused to wear a lanyard, uh

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Speaker 1: winning exact and they and you know what, I was

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Speaker 1: in exactly the same camp. Never wore the lanyard in

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Speaker 1: the old office, and there was no there was no

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Speaker 1: there was nothing else to go with. Yeah, I will

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Speaker 1: in honor of West. Uh the mic cable all the way.

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Speaker 1: Just tighten it slowly and this episode is going to

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Speaker 1: be titled lanyard, right, it's lanyard. I do enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: How Mark just floated it out there that there was

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Speaker 1: a break in and potential NFL I did anything. So

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Speaker 1: when the random guy comes in in the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks and he's like, hey, Mark contacted security at

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Absolutely, I went through all the correct protocols.

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Speaker 1: That reminds another story where where NFL security famously called

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Speaker 1: me into an office because they were worried that West

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Speaker 1: might have drowned. Well, I mean, well, we can get

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Speaker 1: into that story another time. Went Dan and I spent

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do this, Gregy, you don't know you're needed.

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Speaker 1: We did it for West's friendship. Now you were on

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Speaker 1: a different part of the case. But of course Henry

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Speaker 1: is here because the Miami Dolphins are front and center

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Speaker 1: with the news. It has finally slowed down. I would

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Speaker 1: say the uh free agency frenzy. This was the big

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Speaker 1: has quieted doubt. That's a dangerous thing, but I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to talk about this Dolphins UH news and so

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Ricky Erica really making stuff happen.

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Speaker 1: Random conversation of abiscus cooler in the huddle. The next

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Speaker 1: thing I am on this text chain that was Henry's

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Speaker 1: text to our short lived group text of this particular

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Speaker 1: combination of our show. That was beautiful. That was all

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Speaker 1: that was great producing by Ricky. She saw Henry. She

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Speaker 1: she thought he'd be a great addition to the show,

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Speaker 1: and that was a great idea because who better to

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Speaker 1: talk about a Tyreek Hill trade? And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the Toron Armstead signing uh the number one overall free

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Speaker 1: com also happened. But the Tyreek Hill trade is the headliner.

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Speaker 1: It's the stunner. They gave up a lot to get him, Henry.

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Speaker 1: They gave up a first round pick, a second round pick,

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Speaker 1: gave him the biggest contract ever, depending on how you

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Speaker 1: want to measure it for a wide receiver, but certainly

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Speaker 1: in terms of guaranteed money, it basically comes down to

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Speaker 1: aren't going all in on this season, but they are

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Speaker 1: going all in on Tyreek Hill and what the next

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction as a Dolphins fan, Henry. I

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Speaker 1: was excited because the Dolphins have been trapped in in

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Speaker 1: while every other team in the league seems to be,

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Speaker 1: Ricky was better than Reggie Bush has a dolphin he is.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush had like two good years in Miami. But

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Speaker 1: a extreme close up of clay box choker, the choker

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Speaker 1: my face. It's a little distracting, it's a little too much.

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Speaker 1: stop this team. I think it could be a case

428
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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs trying to zig now that everybody else

429
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Speaker 1: is zagged to deal with that particular offense. And we

430
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Speaker 1: saw it the way that they covered the Chiefs, the

431
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: way that they covered Tyreek Hill. Perhaps they thought there

432
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Speaker 1: might be the Ministran returns that that's that's what's going

433
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: into it too. He's getting older and they got a ton.

434
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: I thought they got a totally fair value, and he was.

435
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I think it was a win for the Dolphins, but

436
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: I thought the Chiefs made it sort of made sense

437
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: to me somehow, even though it was getting rid of

438
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Speaker 1: Tyreeko because of what they got and because of the

439
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: cap situation. Well, they're banking on Patrick Mahomes working well

440
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: with whoever is in it wide receiver that actually has

441
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Speaker 1: not It's not as if they've drafted guys who are

442
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Speaker 1: who have already passed through the system and they didn't

443
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Speaker 1: flourish the way that some projected. They haven't found the

444
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: next Tyreek Hill when they've looked for that kind of speed.

445
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: So there I saw stuff yesterday where like the football

446
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: world was getting a little too excited about what the

447
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs did. In my opinion, because I like the act

448
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: that they It's forward thinking, and I think it was

449
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: shrewd because if you give Tyreek kill that money. We've

450
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: seen that video game and we know it works. We

451
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: know that they can dominate teams with Tyreek Hill, with Mahomes,

452
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: with Kelsey. You're banking on the fact that you're gonna

453
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Speaker 1: go find a crop of other receivers this offseason that

454
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Speaker 1: can they have to equal what Tyreek Hill gives you.

455
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,239
Speaker 1: There's other ways to do that. We trust Andy Reid too,

456
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: but part of me just feels like this was what

457
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were. You're taking a major piece out of

458
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: the puzzle, and good teams rebuild, reload, and they find

459
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: the next Tyree killed me. We've seen the Patriots over

460
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: the years do this a hundred times and sell high

461
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: on a player and then three years later it's like

462
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins made the mistake here. Tyreek Hill was good

463
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Speaker 1: for two more seasons and then he got disgruntled and

464
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: he's on another team. Right, But I mean, Tyreek Hill

465
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Speaker 1: is hard to replace. It's one thing to say you're

466
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Speaker 1: replacing a you know, uh number one receiver, but he's

467
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: one of the two or three non quotterback best you know,

468
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: weapons skill position guys that can school from any point

469
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Speaker 1: on the field. There aren't many of those guys out there,

470
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Speaker 1: so I think trying to say week and ago drop

471
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: that guy is pretty difficult. That they didn't they didn't

472
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: mean to draw Tarrek Kill when they drafted Tarrek Kill.

473
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: They were the ones stood by him when he was

474
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: under investigation from the NFL, under investigation from authorities, and

475
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: they ended up giving him another contract pretty soon after that.

476
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: This was the moment they decided, Okay, it's been a

477
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: great partnership, but maybe now it's time to have a divorce.

478
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: I find that interesting, and I think they they are

479
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: confident in their organization, especially offensively, that they can fill

480
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: it in that it's not all good luck to them,

481
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: because as we all indicated, there's there's not a lot

482
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Speaker 1: of people on the planet that can get the football

483
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: anywhere on the field, and it's he might score, it

484
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: makes the margins. So there's also not a lot of

485
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: there's almost no one on the planet that can get

486
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Speaker 1: the ball to t In anywhere on the field. For

487
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: some of those big plays. Uh, it was the combination.

488
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: It'll be fascinating to see the Chiefs this year. I

489
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: do not like that they like either odds somehow change

490
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: for the a f C West title and their Super

491
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: Bowl odds change. That's where I think it's going a

492
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: little too far. We've gone too far on this topic.

493
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, all right now. We gotta,

494
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, just zoom through the sorry to drown Armstead,

495
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, like the numbers one guy. He's really good.

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: He's been good. He's been really good. He's missed a

497
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: lot of time and that's the only reason why he

498
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: was as relatively cheap as he was. He's still got

499
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: a lot of guaranteed money, but not maybe the huge,

500
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: like record setting contract that some people expected. But that's

501
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: because he's missed five games on average for about five years.

502
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: So that's that's something they have to think about. Baker

503
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Mayfield um has been in the news, but not really.

504
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: It's been just about how teams aren't going after Baker Mayfield.

505
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: That it's almost felt like a piling on, Like the

506
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Panthers kind of put it out there quickly that they

507
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: weren't going to go after him. And then we got

508
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: the classic reporting from my old colleague at Pro Football Talk,

509
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson, who said that the Panthers and Baker had

510
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: mutual disinterest the other which really felt like, uh oh,

511
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: this girl like doesn't like me, well, I don't like

512
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: her either. Like that, it just wasn't a great um moment.

513
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: I feel like in this tough Baker Mayfield offseason, there

514
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: was a report from Mary Kay Cabot that maybe the

515
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks would be in at the right price wheels in

516
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: the locations that made sense to begin with. And if

517
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: you're if you're interested even vaguely in Baker Mayfield, you

518
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: do the opposite of what the Washington commanders did, which was,

519
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, panic and overpay for something that has question

520
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: marks attached to it, sit around and wait right so

521
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: early on that sit and wait because the Browns are

522
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to give him. It's a salary. It's it's

523
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: it's essentially like we not we need to get Baker

524
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: Mayfield salary off our books and so that you know,

525
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: their ability to trade them for value is just lower

526
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: and lower, and the landing spots are lower and lower.

527
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: And there's a draft coming up. Why go get Baker

528
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Speaker 1: Mayfield if you're the Seahawks, if you want to go

529
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: get Malik Willis for someone else, It's like Baker Mayfield

530
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: is gonna have to sit and wait, I think for

531
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Speaker 1: a landing spot. The reason he and jim me g

532
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: will is because invariably three to four quarterbacks while their

533
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: bodies shattered in August, and then you can sell high.

534
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: I don't think it will take to Logs because but

535
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: I think I think, but I think even during the draft,

536
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: but I think it could be a case of of

537
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: the Seahawks saying to the Browns, will take it, send

538
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: us a pick, rather than the other way. I see.

539
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: That seems crazy to me. I also saw something that

540
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: the Panthers didn't think that he was a big enough

541
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: upgrade on a significant upgat on Sam Donald. It's like,

542
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: this is the this is the organization that brought you

543
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: the decisions to guarantee saying Donald two years, he is

544
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: a significant upgrade. I don't necessarily buy that he's like

545
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: a great idea for them, And maybe even they put

546
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: it out there so that they can just offer a

547
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: fifth round pick during the draft and and happily get

548
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: him for cheap. But he's m let's I'm I'm pushing

549
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: back on like, let's not go too far, and that

550
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: Baker is a total bum. He's an NFL quarterback Sam

551
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: Donald is a total bum well. I think also he's

552
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: one of the worst starting quarterbacks who has had his

553
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: amount of starts since we've been doing this. There's something

554
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: question you give Greg an opportunity to pull back on

555
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: the shift like chance in the third gear. I mean,

556
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: it's are you are you know at this point he

557
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: should not be starting any any NFL games. Where it's

558
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield should be starting NFL games, I'm totally with, Like,

559
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe that sound Donald will be starting NFL

560
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: games either, though I would see what I'm Donald to

561
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: be starting right somewhere. I do think right because it

562
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. I think the whole idea is

563
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: is pointless of like Baker Mayfield being a bad influence

564
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: in the locker room and so like you can't have

565
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: him around a ricky quarterback. I don't think it's true,

566
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: but I think some teams might because they're these people

567
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: come from a different era and if you're going to

568
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: draft a rickey quarterback, maybe they think, well, Baker is

569
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna come in and frown and then he's not going

570
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: to be good at football anymore, which, again it's a

571
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: dumb idea. But I think some teams might believe that,

572
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: is Mark said, I think they might believe that he

573
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: does in gender. Yeah, consistent goodwill from his teammates, which

574
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: you want out of your court. Well, I would ask this, like,

575
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: with all that's happened, who how many Browns players tweeted

576
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: publicly at Baker Mayfield we love you, we support you.

577
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: There's I'm not saying none, but it's been it's been

578
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: a whisper and it's just like I think the teams

579
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: post oh b J and why he left and what

580
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: happened with all that, that was about as messy as

581
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: possible for Baker Mayfield. His stock has dropped as far

582
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: as any quarterbacks in the league. I mean, it's kind

583
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: of stunning. Where we were two weeks ago when we

584
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: talked to Tony Grossi with a post the possibility that

585
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: the Browns would go maybe looking for a Derek Carr

586
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: instead of Baker Mayfield. Instead, everything happened the way it did,

587
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield has no job right now. I think

588
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: he can repair his reputation though, but it comes with

589
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: perfect I just feel like if he gets there that

590
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be annoying. Pete Carroll does not want to rebuild.

591
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: There's something in me that just like believes that Pete

592
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Carroll is gonna cook up these like close game win

593
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: magic where the running game actually does work and and

594
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: it's like no one believed in us, and Baker say,

595
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: no one believed in us, and it's like they go

596
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: ten and seven, but it's actually above expectations. I see it.

597
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: But why what Baker needs to be somewhere where things

598
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: are opened up right and he's not handing the ball

599
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: off a lot, and he he has an opportunity, uh

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00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: to spread it around Like I don't I don't know

601
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: if that if that, if that's Seattle, Yeah, I think, yeah,

602
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I think having two talented receivers that you can he's

603
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: not going to throw the ball that much, but when

604
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: he does, there's a Uh wasn't that in Cleveland? It

605
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: actually fits in Okay, two good receivers not gonna much.

606
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: That was Cleveland. I just wonder about the plan in

607
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland when Baker was clearly injured, not hurt, like he

608
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: was clearly injured and it was severely affecting his ability

609
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: to throw the football and he's kept playing. Never thought

610
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland would just be such a Baker. I'm not I'm

611
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: not defending, I'm I'm just wondering why you continue to

612
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: play him and why case Keenum was the backup, and

613
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: why when your quarterback was playing objectively horrible football, did

614
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: find a better option for a team with players that

615
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: could have contended but ultimately couldn't because the quarterback was

616
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, that's on them. I agree with that. Um.

617
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I've been very critical of the Patriots offseason in general.

618
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: It's just like bringing back all year old favorites James

619
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: White and Matthew Slater, who who I love, but nothing

620
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: other than that. But I gotta say all that criticism

621
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: is over now because Malcolm Butler is back on the

622
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Patriots two year deal. One of my favorite players in

623
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: NFL history, certainly Patriots history, and has had ups and

624
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: downs in his career, made a lot of money, personal problems.

625
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not even joking here. I am so happy

626
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: that Malcolm Butler is back with the Patriots that I

627
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: don't care about the rest. Then go six and eleven.

628
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't love fly on the wall with that. In

629
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: that meeting with Belichick where it's like, well, let's go

630
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: back over what happened on that in that Super Bowl?

631
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't it was Matt Patricia that he had the beef with.

632
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: He's also back then Pustricius like deeply ensconced in the

633
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: in the procedure at this point, we're in the program. Yeah,

634
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: and he he left and he since had beef with

635
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: more people. And so I wonder if they've both grown

636
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: after the pre Super Bowl incident. I hope so and

637
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: and Belichick will probably be asked that question again, but

638
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: can you still play? And Malcolm Fler was was a

639
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: sweet guy and what he happened with him from where

640
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: he came from and what he turned his career into

641
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: where he was really good on the Titans for for seasons.

642
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: He was up and down, but he had pretty high

643
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: moments and he's had ups and downs, and he had

644
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: some pretty serious sounding personal issues that prevented him from

645
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: playing football a year ago. So I I love this story.

646
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's back. And uh, I don't know my

647
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: my Walker was such a big J. C. Jackson fan.

648
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get him a Malcolm Butler shirt because I'm

649
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: a big fan and it's got to work out. He's

650
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: their number one cornerback now, by the way, he really

651
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: might be I'm not even I'm not that. But but

652
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: if if I told you in December, that would be

653
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: where where we were in middle March. Or do you

654
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: think the Patriots have had? I think they're gonna have so.

655
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to add players because

656
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: as I've mentioned on this show, and they gave away

657
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Shack Mason for like a bag of spoons, like I

658
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: found that the head scratcher. I don't know. Their top

659
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: outside corners are Jalen Mills and Malcolm Butler right now.

660
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to add a lot

661
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: of players, and there are a lot of players available

662
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: around forty guys from the one oh one still available,

663
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: and plenty of other like professionals that are not on

664
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: the one on one that they also keep giving away

665
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: players because that seems to be part of the plan this.

666
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: The spoons don't even match either there from different sets,

667
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: and so you just put them in a bag and

668
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: threw them in the summer us all right. Finally, in

669
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: the news, uh surprising news this morning that a Texas

670
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: grand jury is considering another charge against DeShawn Watson. This

671
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: came as a big surprise because Deshaun Watson's Lloyd Or

672
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: said quote, the criminal investigations have been completed, So that

673
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: was plural investigations said completed when he released a public

674
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: statement on this story, when the grand jury and Harris

675
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: County declined to bring chargers, and that was now almost

676
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, we thought that that was it. There

677
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: has been reporting since that the Browns were aware of this. Uh,

678
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I call into question a lot

679
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: of the reporting that's happened around Deshaun Watson just because

680
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: we've now seen that it's been proven to be false.

681
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it even matters whether they knew it

682
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: or not. But this this is another thing now that

683
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: he's a member of the Browns. That is sort of

684
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: part of the experience with with Deshaun Watson. It was

685
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: a tenth criminal complaint. It is one of the women

686
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: um that is also part of the twenty two civil allegations.

687
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: She told police that Watson ejaculated on her during a

688
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: massage appointment, and Uh, they're expected to deliberate an issue

689
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: a decision Thursday or Friday. Deshaun Watson was expected to

690
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: meet with the media on Friday and that was the

691
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: first thing I thought was, will Deshaun Watson still be

692
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: meeting with with the media on Friday? I mean it's

693
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: technically a because I was like, wait, there's another grand jury,

694
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm not you know, legal stuff sometimes

695
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: not a lone of us understand this all fully. And

696
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: it was very confused, right. It happened in a different

697
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: county this this particular. That's why it is a separate

698
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: grand jury. Um. I I also question did the Browns

699
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: or whoever? The Saints of the Falcons, No, this was

700
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna come up this week and at the timing that

701
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: it has. I mean, there's more to be seen with

702
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson. The other side all this is that

703
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: no matter what happens here, the NFL still in the

704
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: middle of their investigation deciding what to do with to

705
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. Could put him in the Commissioner's list and

706
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: he could not play all next season if if that's

707
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: what they felt comfortable with that their findings, I mean

708
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: it is, you're like the team that went and got him.

709
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: You're taking on a big risk in terms of availability

710
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: to coul see a lot of Jacoby Brissette next season.

711
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how the Browns go, how this

712
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: happens a week after he um starts assigns with them,

713
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: and how the Browns didn't know that this was coming,

714
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: because clearly, again from you know, they weren't expecting one

715
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: week into into the relationship with him for this too

716
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: they're saying, they're saying they didn't know about it. Well,

717
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: they aren't saying anything publicly, and neither is Deshaun Watson's lawyers,

718
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: which I think is at least for now telling, but

719
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: there was reporting where Brown's sources according to ESPN at

720
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: least is one place I saw that that they said

721
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: they were aware of it. Well, hopefully in they're going

722
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: through this process independent of everything else that takes place, Right,

723
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: they've made a decision to have Deshaun Watson be their quarterback.

724
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: UM And now from the league standpoint, for the Brown standpoint,

725
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: from every team standpoint, I think you just prioritize a

726
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: way to have a conversation around sexual violence and sexual assault,

727
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: right and how to prevent this in the future, and

728
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily prioritizing pr like oh, well we did this,

729
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: and like he's on the team. Now, how do you

730
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: go forward? How do you address this, Well, how do

731
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: you address it when he if he is still pushing

732
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: back as publicly in terms of that he hadn't didn't

733
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: done anything wrong. It's the truth has come out and

734
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: so and so that's that's up to them to determine,

735
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: like and not just it's not just a Browns priority

736
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to be a league wide priority, and how do we

737
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: approach this discussion around sexual violence and sexual assault. Um, well,

738
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: I think the league, or at least portions of the league,

739
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: showed us what their priority was last week, and it's

740
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: it's just this sort of coming with with this trade.

741
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Browns fans are already annoyed

742
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: about it and upset about it because it's just so

743
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: awkward that they can't talk about in the same way

744
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: bringing a franchise changing talent to their organization in the

745
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: same way that they would want to. I said, I

746
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: saw this article in the Cleveland Plane Dealer last night

747
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: that Bernie Kozar and who was it, the second year

748
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: cornerback on the Greg Newsome, We're at like a charity function,

749
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: a celebration of the Browns, And so they were talking

750
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: to fans and it was like this event and like

751
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: Bernie Kosar and Greg Newsome did did not know how

752
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: to talk about it, Uh, didn't really want to talk

753
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: about it, and they were just like, well, we're not

754
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: comfortable talking about that right now. And Newsom said even

755
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: even as an answer to a question like is everyone

756
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: fired up? And his answer was just like, well, we

757
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: were fired up about the team we had, and he

758
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: adds to it, and it's just that that is part

759
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: of what you're buying as part of this. And when

760
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: you have a press conference scheduled for Friday and it's

761
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: the day that this could be coming out, it's just

762
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: like here we go. That's just part of the equation.

763
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: You have to have some sort of organizational plan, not

764
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: just in terms of this, but really in everything you

765
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: you would like to see. This is this is the strategy,

766
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: this is how we're going to Uh, these are the

767
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: people we are prioritizing in this conversation, and this is

768
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: the result that we would like to get. But it's

769
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: it seems like last minute adjusting to the news of

770
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: yesterday constantly and like statements and and that's who knows

771
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: and we're we're talking about it. The next segment on

772
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: this show is almost directly related to Deshaun Watson, like

773
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: we it's not like we want to be scolds and

774
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: like that. This is why we got into you know,

775
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: talking about football is like we want to talk about this.

776
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: It's like no that he and the Browns and just

777
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: the news of the day has given us no choice

778
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: but to talk about it. I didn't think we would

779
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: be talking about it today. But um, before we move

780
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: on to that segment, which by the way, I should

781
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: have mentioned at the top, Mark and clay Bon titled

782
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: that I'm excited to talk about So sorry, Ri're just

783
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to She's like an extra twelve, but you know,

784
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: twenty four minutes an extra minutes. I uh, do we

785
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: need another break in this show, Eric, or should we

786
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: just go right to the segment? Let's go to the break,

787
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: all right. I am excited about this segment. I'm excited

788
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: that Mark and Claibon have entitled that I'm excited about

789
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: because it's been a darker week than it should have

790
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: been over the last two weeks in the NFL. Considering

791
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that we have gotten the best trade tsunami in NFL history.

792
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Years after the original trade tsunami, it really arrived on

793
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: mass the NFL is now matching the NBA trade for

794
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: trade in terms of big time players. It makes NFL

795
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: now more entertaining, It makes these podcasts more entertaining, It

796
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: makes my life better and so I've been excited about that.

797
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: And it also makes looking ahead to the twenty twenty

798
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: two season more exciting because now we can start thinking

799
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: about these teams. So we wanted to get off all

800
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: the doom and gloom and get to like, what's gonna

801
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: bring us joy, what we're gonna be excited about. Let's

802
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: start with the Henry. How about you? Okay, I'll talk.

803
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you something I'm excited about. Greg.

804
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: And I know that we started the show talking about

805
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: this Dolphins high powered offense, but I'm I'm going to

806
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: continue and we don't need to dwell on it because

807
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: we already did. But I am being excited to watch

808
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: that Dolphins offense. How it's going to be able to

809
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: attack the field. How Mike McDaniel, this guy who you know,

810
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: they had a round of of introductions of free agents

811
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: last week and they were referred to him as a mastermind,

812
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: a genius, a kind of mega brain or something like that.

813
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: How he's going to use all these new pieces to

814
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: attack the field, to attack teams, and just again I

815
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: started with this, but just to make the team exciting

816
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: to watch, it's been. It's been like you know, like

817
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: punishment of some kind. Like on Sunday, I get excited

818
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: game where Brian Flores I think, had you know, cooked

819
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: up seven pick sixes against Jared That's exciting, but I

820
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: like it when that happens with the ball. That's kind

821
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: of more easy to What about Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know,

822
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: running off the field with someone on his back. No,

823
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, thinking it's fun. It's fun,

824
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: it's fun. But those are moments that you've pulled out

825
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: because those are actually like high points. I'm talking about

826
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: just like on a consistent basis, being like, oh wow,

827
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: they've got the bull. I'm excited to watch this rather

828
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: than I'll probably just make a cup of b What

829
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: about the game winning touchdown from Cleo Lemon to great?

830
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: All of these things I attempting to do. What around

831
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: walks blowout I'm trying excited about. Heck, would like to

832
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: just Tweek threw a blowout, Like think about like like

833
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: Lamar blowing out the Dolphins. Fun. He would like to

834
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: not be worried about the outcome of the game at all.

835
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: It's just ire with like thank basic football fans, uh,

836
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: feeling that offense is more exciting, more points is more exciting,

837
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: more points, more rules that make more points is great.

838
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: And I've never gotten sick of that. So I can

839
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: imagine as a Dolphins fan, it's tough. It's been tough

840
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: a couple of months. What what are you excited about.

841
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm excited about some of these addressers change in spots

842
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: um and getting to places where they can affect the quarterback.

843
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: I love the Buffalo Bills and Von miller Um. I

844
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: like it when older players generated excitement in new fan bases,

845
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: especially after Matt Ryan catches a whole bunch of shade

846
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, we're all older than that Ran, Like

847
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: what are you saying about? What are you saying about

848
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: all of us? But in like a sneaky part of

849
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: things is Josh Allen has had so much of a

850
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: burden in the run game in these past couple of years,

851
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: and now Roger Staffold and O. J. Howard come over

852
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: and and I think they can impact the game. Brian

853
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: day Ball leaves. I think the Bills will be able

854
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: to run the ball, and like, sorry, Hayk, I wish

855
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: they had, but well they got Duke Johnson. I like

856
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: Mkissic more, but but I it needed to do something there,

857
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: so that worked. Yeah, And it just it puts a

858
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: team that has been a contender in a different light

859
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: and there's change there. There's just change within all of

860
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: these contenders and that's what gets me excited where it's

861
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: it's different, but it's also the same and when we

862
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: can kind of see the evolution of things, and I'm

863
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: excited at Buffalo is my number one thing. I was

864
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna have you go next, but since since it's just

865
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: jumping off of you, I'm with you that. I like

866
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: when superpowers who know how to do things change up

867
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: just enough. And I think they have, like their moves

868
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: have been so smart. Jamison Crowder replacing Cole Beasley. Love

869
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: it you give Isaia Mackenzie some money like that, uh

870
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: saffold with the run the Run game you mentioned, von.

871
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: I like Duke Johnson, I like as much as Brian

872
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: Dable was great and they'll probably miss him, I guess.

873
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I just I'm excited to see a slightly different version

874
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: of this Bill's offense with these new pieces and Josh Allen,

875
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: like what is next for him? I guess I'm stuck

876
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: on those two playoff games being like two best games

877
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: I just I've ever seen from from a quarterback and

878
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: what's going to be next and what they do. So

879
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: this Bill's team, I think has just been so smart

880
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: with how they are trying to stay at the top,

881
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: because they really have been at the top now for

882
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: a few years and going into the season, to me,

883
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: they are the a f C favorites. As good as

884
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: the rest of the a f C looks and as

885
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: exciting as it is in the a f C East,

886
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: I think will be better than it's been in a while. Like,

887
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: to me, the Bills are the favorites, and I'm excited

888
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: about the moves that they mixed it up as stepping

889
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: up to Yeah, the Dolphins adding Tyreek Hill and set

890
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: in general, like believing in their coach and everything you

891
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: talked about makes that division much more interesting than it

892
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: was a season ago. I mean, it's just a great

893
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: trash heap for most of last year and the Bills are.

894
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you guys both, I'm I'm

895
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: excited about the Bills even as a Dolphins fan, because

896
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: that's that's a fun team to watch. Again, this is

897
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: supposed to be fun. People will not expect much from

898
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots now, which I like. That's where they've generally

899
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: done their best work. I'm also excited about the Oki

900
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: dok from the Pittsburgh Steelers, who have somehow mind tricked

901
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: the entire planet and thinking that they're okay with Mitchell

902
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Trupisky starting. What do you think it is Malik Willis

903
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: or a rookie? I think it's a rookie. It's not

904
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: what people it's not mitchells for all. I think it's

905
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: a rookie. They I totally think they have to be.

906
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: You'd be crazy to think that you're gonna satisfy your

907
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: fan and based with the current plan, was wasn't Mike

908
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Glennon thought he was the best quarterback? Was at the

909
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Bears draft party being celebrated as Mitchell Drabinsky um got drafted, binga.

910
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Is it not going to happen again now with Mitchell

911
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Robinsky at the Steelers draft party when they don't go

912
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: to these parties. The differences the Bears gave Mike Glennon

913
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: seventeen for absolutely no reason. What do you got Mark, Well,

914
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: I know, I know you know some of the that

915
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: we're excited about. It's like generally positive, um, but I

916
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: do think that there is one more um chapter of

917
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: immense potential drama at the quarterback position, and I'm I'm

918
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: not going to let this go until I hear otherwise,

919
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: and it would have to come through a massive new contract,

920
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: which I don't think the Arizona Cardinals are convinced they

921
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: need to give Kyler Murray right now. And I'm just saying,

922
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: if you get to that part where these sides cannot

923
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: hang together because Kyler Murray even just during this show,

924
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: tweeted out saying basically, I've done nothing but give my

925
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: all to the Cardinals and will continue you to do that.

926
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm not really too worried about my future as a

927
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Cardinal saying that he would just let his agent and

928
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: all the money thing that's cool. Does that really quell

929
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: anything for me? Not at all. I think this is

930
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: a massive holdout potential right here, and maybe a you're

931
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: looking forward to that kind of well, that kind of it.

932
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: It's like the last chapter to the most mad off

933
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: season of time. It was actually going to be some

934
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: most I was excited about because I think next, you know,

935
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: we've we've have like Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, we've those

936
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: stories have now ended. And that was like stuff that

937
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: had been building up with the last twelve eighteen months.

938
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: We're into a new round. I think you've hit Kyler.

939
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I think Lama Jackson is coming up to be a

940
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: free agent next year. I think there's gonna be a

941
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: whole another round of people who are going to be dissatisfied, disgruntled,

942
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: and we're going to spend I know this annoys you,

943
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: but we're gonna spend the next twelve months talking about

944
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: where they end up or what their futures might hold.

945
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: But what's time. But the difference with Kyler and Lamar

946
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: or any of those other ones is Kyler has already

947
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: put out a statement that essentially I read as I

948
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: won't play without a new contract and that and this

949
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: is a team that's seemingly put out some bad stuff

950
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: about Kyler, and yeah, it's very confused. I don't know

951
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: where it goes though, because I just can't. You know,

952
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna go somewhere ugly where we think, at least

953
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: we know the Cardinals have made an offer to Kyler

954
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Murray and there's been someone response there. I don't even

955
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: know if the Ravens have made an offer to Lamar. Now,

956
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: there was a report um or actually I think they

957
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: said it publicly that the reporting was it was close

958
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: to thirty five a year, and that the Ravens have said,

959
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: we've been waiting for Lamar to engage, and when when

960
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: Lamar really wants to engage, he will, and there's doesn't

961
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: he have no if you're if you're waiting for him

962
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: to engage and you've made an offer, then the answer

963
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: was no, that he's already engaged. He seems pretty chill

964
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: about it. It's just weird. It's weird for the team

965
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: to imply that Lamar is like sitting there playing Call

966
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: of Duty or elden Ring or something that that they

967
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: imply is always playing video, but it's it's like it

968
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: really is Instagram and he does he's playing. It's like

969
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: willing gauge at Lamar's pace. If you've made an offer

970
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: and he doesn't like it, then that's that's well. The convention,

971
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes belief and I don't know how

972
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: anyone can really get this information because Lamar's representing himself.

973
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: But the belief, at least from Jason lacking for at

974
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: CBS is usually tied in with the Ravens, is that

975
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: Lamar wants to play it out that at least he

976
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: sees that as a really viable option. And I totally

977
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: get that. I think it's very risky. But he's gonna

978
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: make nineteen million dollars this year, which is way more

979
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: than he's made in his any any other year. Certainly,

980
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: it's certainly enough to to live off for the rest

981
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: of your life, and you want to make money, But

982
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: if you believe in yourself, like Lamar Jackson does, he

983
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: thinks that going the Kirk Cousins route, getting to the TAG,

984
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: maybe even doing the TAG twice, which by the way,

985
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be about the same guaranteed money for two

986
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: years as you're gonna get in your first two years

987
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: of a long term deal, is the way to go.

988
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Because the only way to have the most power in

989
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: most money that any quarterback has ever had in the

990
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: history of football will be to go that route. I

991
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: mean Kirk Cousins. Has Cousins is the example because he's

992
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: kind of gotten there. He's made as much or more

993
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: money than almost any quarterback in the last seven years.

994
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: And that's Kirk Cousins. Imagine you do that if you're

995
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: a La bar. If Eric do Costa would like to

996
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: prevent that, then he could probably make a better right

997
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: he could. I what I think, what you're saying, and

998
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: I think it's fair, is that the Ravens might look

999
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: at that and be like, bet, like, okay, we'll we'll

1000
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: do that, and we'll just like isn't it different though

1001
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: than like the the obviously the Josh Allen situation where

1002
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: the organization is totally hell bent on resigning his like,

1003
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: this doesn't get me excited about. This is not the

1004
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: stuff that gives me joy though contracts. Alright, well, sorry,

1005
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: all right, well well how about I'm showing my my

1006
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: Patriots Homerism. But I really do like the idea of

1007
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels running this Raiders offense, and I think it's

1008
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: gotten lost in the shuffle a little bit weirdly because

1009
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: McDaniels has been below the radar, I guess, just in

1010
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: terms of like big stories, in terms of what his

1011
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: impacts hasn't He hasn't left the team yet, but it's

1012
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: gonna be a totally different offense. I mean, he's very,

1013
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: very different from Jon Gruden. He's certainly different from Greg

1014
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Olsen other guys Derek Carr has worked with. I think

1015
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: he's a really good game planner. I think he does

1016
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: a good job of not putting players in position to

1017
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: do things they don't do well. I think he deserves

1018
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: not not a lot of credit for Tom Brady's success,

1019
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: but some for the way that they approached things, in

1020
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: the way Mac Jones got into the league and I

1021
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: and I just look at these guys that they have.

1022
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is as impressive a dude, like listening to

1023
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: him out of press conference as as there can possibly be.

1024
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is an impressive guy. He's very intelligent. Darren

1025
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: Waller is an impressive guy, Hunter Renfro All these guys

1026
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: to me just like scream football smart and and real

1027
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: life smart. And I think Josh McDaniels is a great

1028
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: coach for them, And I just think they're gonna be

1029
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: more fun to watch as an offense, and they're gonna

1030
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: be dynamic, and I think McDaniels is a key part

1031
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: to that, helping those guys maximize what they do. And

1032
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: I think like the Raiders are gonna be a prime

1033
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: time team that I'm more excited to watch than the

1034
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: last few years where it's just like, Okay, I don't

1035
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: hate it, they're not the Giants, but I'm not excited.

1036
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: It's mostly about me and the prime time games. And

1037
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are going to deliver because of Josh.

1038
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: Well I want to just because of Josh, but he's

1039
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna be part of it. Does that mean the a

1040
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: f C West gets more prime time games with all

1041
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: those editions than the NFC East That that is a

1042
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: coin toss. With the way this operates, it's gonna get

1043
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: a lot because the North is hot right now for sure.

1044
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: If the Bengals are the third favorites in Vegas, like,

1045
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: that's a spicy division. People are giving up on the

1046
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: Steelers too quick, dude, that's a hot division. But I

1047
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: think the a f C West, yeah, number one along

1048
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, but to your point, read like

1049
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: they they're not even looking at what makes sense. It's

1050
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: like it's the end of city. Like while I have

1051
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: the Nielsen box data from two thousand and seven, and

1052
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: this means the game's more exciting. I think Chandler Jones

1053
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: makes that more exciting because we've seen a good Raider's offense,

1054
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: but then there's been on the other side. Okay, but

1055
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: here's how they were good is by getting third and

1056
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: three over and over on six minute eighty four yard

1057
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: drives that they either get a field goal or like

1058
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: they get the fourth try of of Josh Jacobs on

1059
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: third and goal. Like that, they haven't been exciting. I

1060
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: think they could be exciting. Herbert's exciting, the Chiefs are exciting,

1061
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting? And the Bronx Wilson so Wilson

1062
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: like that's offense. I mean the Broncos have Russell Wilson

1063
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Packet, which I think is he was going

1064
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: to be one of mine because it's like this could

1065
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: go really, really well. But you're also in the a

1066
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: f C West and all these a f C West

1067
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: teams have to go play the NFC West, so it's

1068
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: gonna be Russell Wilson with his new team versus all

1069
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: his old friends and foes and former team, which I loved.

1070
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: I think Nathaniel Hackett as much as I find him

1071
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: totally delightful whenever he speaks. Um, I also want to

1072
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: see what how what does how does he respond? Because

1073
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: he seems like such an almost childlike, bubbly individual, Like

1074
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: what if they're one in four and things are going poorly?

1075
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Do you get a different, darker version of Hackett that

1076
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: is equally quotable. So, I mean, these are things that

1077
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: I am genuinely excited about. He does seem like the

1078
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: like super excited head coach where the losing maybe takes

1079
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: a toll on him, Like right, yeah, I don't know

1080
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: if he'll be like full at him, but that would

1081
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: you'd feel for him because he's such a positive seeming individual.

1082
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: You would feel for him as long as he handles

1083
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: it in the right way. Like I'm trying to think

1084
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: of some coaches that have been like that. Dave McGinnis,

1085
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember him as a head

1086
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: cou just like a happy guy that but like Pete

1087
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Carroll his first time around, and you know Dennis Green went,

1088
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: it started going dark in each one of his places

1089
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Like that didn't that man didn't want to be unhappy,

1090
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: but you made him unhappy. Yeah, that was a nice man,

1091
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: happy man. Sadly things didn't work out. Clay Bonne. Anything

1092
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: else that's gonna bring you some joy I'm giving, Like

1093
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: the PG title of this y Yeah, well I didn't

1094
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: want to give Eric anymore work. Just guys coming back, um,

1095
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: even even Baker. Um. The injury rate in this league

1096
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: is so high and there's always whenever you talk about

1097
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: people always want you to give a caveat. Well if

1098
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: they stay healthy. It's literally an aspect of the human condition.

1099
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: Like we could use that caveat for everybody. So like

1100
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: even somebody like Jalen Waddle right who was who was

1101
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: eight months off of a broken ankle last year, Like

1102
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: he gets a full healthy off season. I'm thinking about

1103
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: all the guys that were out. Um, I'm excited for

1104
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: for hurt guys to come back and get an opportunity,

1105
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: some of them with new teams. Um, so I'm excited

1106
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: about that. I'm gonna throw out the second year quarterbacks

1107
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: just generally like that. This was as high up a

1108
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: draft class of quarterbacks as they've been in a while,

1109
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: and as rookies. You know, maybe they didn't get everyone

1110
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: as excited as you as you thought you would be,

1111
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: other than Mac Jones, who I think I think probably

1112
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: over uh performed in terms of expectations. But I'm excited

1113
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: about year two Mac Jones. I think Mac Jones can

1114
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: get better. Justin Fields is a name and the Bears

1115
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: are a team that we just haven't said in two months.

1116
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm cautious, I'm nervous a little bit about the

1117
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: offensive staff and the talent that they have around him.

1118
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to watch Justin Fields play a full

1119
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: season of football, and especially after that Urban Meyer story

1120
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: the last week, I'm excited to watch Trevor Lawrence play

1121
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: with like a legitimate head coach. These were guys we

1122
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: were thrilled about. They should be better in this next season.

1123
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: It's a league fully about quarterbacks, and like they I

1124
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: am excited about that. I am also piggybacking on that,

1125
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: excited that there's no group of young men that have

1126
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: to operate at the behest of Urban Meyer this year

1127
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: anywhere on awhere, Like it's like, oh, guess what you

1128
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: might perform better if your coach doesn't ditch the plane

1129
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: to bump and grind a wait stah possible? All right?

1130
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of things we haven't

1131
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I've got one more can Greg, So it's got a

1132
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: lot highlighted. Actually, so I went I actually we must

1133
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: there must be some group think going on here, because

1134
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: I had some that you also mentioned, so well, I'll

1135
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: throw one more out there, sorry, Mark, to jump into

1136
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: into yours. Um. There are five international games this year

1137
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: being played in London, in Mexico City, and then for

1138
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: the first time in Germany and Munich. And in the

1139
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: past you know, obviously fans have shown up to those games,

1140
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: had an amazing time. You guys have had the chance

1141
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: to be there. Patrick one day, we hope you would

1142
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: be able to join us as well, you know, breaking

1143
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: place send claim into Germany with us exactly full stadiums

1144
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: of excited fans. But you could probably say that the

1145
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: product on the field wasn't you know, quite as exciting

1146
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: as it could be. The teams in London that the

1147
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: Packers who coming for the first time to London, the Saints,

1148
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: a Jacksonville Jaguars team without Urban mayor the in Mexico City, UM,

1149
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and then in Munich the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

1150
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: good teams. I've been allowed to be part of the

1151
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: conversations around those matchups as well. There are some exciting games,

1152
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: can you give like a little hit and around the

1153
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: NFL because I don't know what for sure will happen,

1154
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: and I would hate to leave people in the wrong direction.

1155
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: But what I mean I can say without any uh

1156
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: anything where it's I'm not being transparent. Those are exciting.

1157
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: They are going to be some really exciting international matches,

1158
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: and we're starting the campaign send around the NFL, including

1159
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Clay Bonn. You have to include all of that in

1160
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: the hashtag to Germany. That's evolved because last week it

1161
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: was sending Gregg to Germany very specifically. That's not true.

1162
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: We talked about it. It was it was all about

1163
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: Greg's background. Um, well, I thought that was a good hook. Look,

1164
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: I know they're not sending me without the team, and

1165
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that anyways, But yes, I um and

1166
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: my first generation German descendant, so my family was there

1167
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: for hundreds of years. It really is a connection here.

1168
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: You said you and West had family back in German.

1169
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: The name Sessler is German and there it's just like,

1170
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: maybe we could do a live show from Wesseling. I

1171
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: feel like, let's do all this and before we go, though,

1172
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: I do want Mark you too, UM do the one

1173
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: about you and McGregor that isn't o highlighter. We didn't

1174
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: green by the way you color is green. But I

1175
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: appreciate that because you send out these Instagram stories a

1176
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: lot of you and McGregor, a lot of nicole kidman.

1177
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you're excited about. I think

1178
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: you and McGregor is one of the for me. He

1179
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: is like my top one or two or three actors

1180
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: ever and he's playing Obi Wan Kenobi and it's a

1181
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: bit of a nerdy thing. But I thought he was

1182
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: done wrong Clayband, I don't and it's prequels. He was

1183
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: done wrong and he coming back now in a thing

1184
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: where apparently, you know, competent people wrote the story and

1185
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: he uh. The only thing that finds strange is that

1186
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: Al L. Guinness, who played Over One, like a solid

1187
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: twelve years after this version of Ewan McGregor looks twenty

1188
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: seven years older than you. You and McGregor is like,

1189
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: it's like like like a top Gun. The sequel doesn't

1190
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: work because like he's top Gun. It's like Tom Cruise

1191
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: still looks thirty seven and Kelly McGinnis from the first

1192
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: one looks seventy two in real life, so it's like

1193
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: they had to recast the whole thing anyways. Well, no,

1194
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a Guinness that taken fire, and

1195
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: I think I think maybe it's just hair in in

1196
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: styling his chart. Yes, a little bit. But I am

1197
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: excited because I've always said the prequels, which I love,

1198
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: and people are starting to appreciate the prequels even more,

1199
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: I think, not not myself, but other people are yet

1200
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: even but they've always, they've always The dialogue was like

1201
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: a Wikipedia article about Star Wars lore, which of course

1202
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: I would read. But now we we get uh you

1203
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: and has a chance with some better dialogue and looking

1204
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: forward to that as well, you serves. I bumped into

1205
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: you and McGregor on a hike and guy, and I

1206
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: was I didn't say anything to him, I but we're

1207
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: on a very narrow path and I was like, oh,

1208
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: it comes um McGregor. He nodded. It was like, yeah,

1209
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: we nodded. We nodded each other. That was it. I think,

1210
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I said, good morning. I've known you last decade and

1211
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: you've never told me that story. I mean, it's not

1212
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,479
Speaker 1: a very good story, it's an excellent story. Really, It's

1213
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: like the thing you've ever told me, did you look

1214
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: at him and think, okay, top three Mark actors at

1215
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: that point, Mark, he hosted less often about known for

1216
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: his looks. But then you looked at him and he

1217
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: thought like, I'm taller and better looking than him. No,

1218
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. You didn't think that if I bumped into

1219
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: Winslet or DiCaprio, I would have. I would have made

1220
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: reference to Mark. But all right, well we're making headway.

1221
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: Were you elevated at the time. Did you have a

1222
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: chance to tell him that you had the high ground

1223
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: or something, because no, I don't think we were like

1224
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very narrow path and we

1225
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: had to think a short is maybe not short, but

1226
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: definitely Henry is. I was told than him, but I

1227
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: didn't notice whether he was short. Well, this is more

1228
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: Star Wars and Ewan McGregor talked than Dan would have allowed.

1229
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: By the way, I tell you something about Dan. About

1230
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: eight minutes before the show, I got like a string

1231
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: of this typically a greg move, but a string of

1232
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: butt dials from Dan. I thought he was like trying

1233
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: to reach me, and I kept putting the phone on

1234
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: speaker and it was like clearly sounds from Disneyland where

1235
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: he is You're like rides or something in the background,

1236
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: but it's like, are you all right, Dan? Are you

1237
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: all right at Disney World? We don't know. He's then

1238
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: communication went totally dark all right before we go. I

1239
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: just saw a slack from Erica from fifteen minutes ago. Uh,

1240
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: and I just wouldn't feel right before giving her a

1241
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: chance to talk about some she's excited about. Wow, thank you.

1242
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: It was Broncos related, but but Mark took it. So

1243
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: we're definitely feeling the same way. I couldn't think of

1244
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: a team last season that I was less interested in watching,

1245
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: and the Broncos was that team in it you think about,

1246
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Commanders. There's some other teams, but for

1247
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: some reason for me, the Broncos were the last. They

1248
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: were thirty two of thirty two that I would want

1249
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: to they were, they were in the middle. I mean

1250
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: I added certain interests in them. Yeah, they just I could.

1251
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: I loved all, you know, the receiving corps and every

1252
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: I just could not get behind it with with the

1253
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the Fongio experience and and everything. So I

1254
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: am really excited to watch them this year with Russell Wilson,

1255
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: Like Mark said, with a new head coach and experience,

1256
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: we're not dealing with the quarterback shuffle and like to

1257
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: really see this team become interesting. Yeah, good fun, young talent.

1258
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you in terms of I thought that paired

1259
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: very well with my comments. You didn't together a very

1260
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: complimentary and and Fonio hasn't quite taken you know, an

1261
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: urban urban Meyer level, you know, shots from the athletic.

1262
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: But there have been a handful of comments from former

1263
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: defensive players who said that Vic Fongio's way of dealing

1264
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: with younger fleets maybe didn't match up with the type

1265
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: of respect that they would and should be afforded us

1266
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: young professionals. That it sounds like the defensive players who

1267
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: were pretty good and and didn't exactly max out their

1268
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: talent weren't exactly loving the Fungio experience and maybe they

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Speaker 1: won't miss him too much. I will miss all you guys.

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Speaker 1: What a fun show. Uh sorry for making you, uh

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Speaker 1: beat out all that work there Erica a segment. But

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be bringing back We're excited to

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Speaker 1: talk about one more time. We do have the around

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Speaker 1: the NFL broadcast on Friday. Check that out. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Mark, Colleen and I. And that's on NFL network,

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Speaker 1: I believe at three pm Eastern noon Pacific, and there's

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Speaker 1: some re airs in less gigantic news blows up the

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Speaker 1: show like it did a year a week ago. Then

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Speaker 1: you don't get the rears. People did not see our

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Speaker 1: final incredible, final m E and F block segments. The

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Speaker 1: lost we were. We were forty minutes into our show

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Speaker 1: when the Deshaun Watson news broke. And uh, and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were our best work, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, No, it dragged. It wasn't a great They

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Speaker 1: can't be all home runs, they really can't. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: was fun though, this was one of our best. We

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Speaker 1: we miss Dan. He will be back on Monday. Until then,

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Speaker 1: this has been thin slice of heaven for Mark Lesler,

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Speaker 1: Handsome Hank Patrick Clavon see you Monday. Please heed that call.

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Speaker 1: Shut up to Shirk