1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Caf i AM six forty. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Oh right, John's not here, but he always says this, 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: so I'll say it in case we're on the air 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: from one to four. In case you cannot hear the 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: three hours live, you can pick up the podcast, which 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: is posted sometime after four o'clock. 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In between, we will throw somebody into 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: the dumpster who was in the news big time just 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: last week and really has to go in because of 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: their actions and their actions that followed it this week. 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: There's your little hint, all right, So that is what's 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: going on. Oh two twenty, we got a keyword. You 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: can win some money. That's coming up too. One of 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: the big stories this week, particularly for people living in 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Orange County and anywhere near Tustin. Was this fire at 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: a massive blimp hagar Valencia Avenue and Armstrong Road in Tustin. 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: This hangar was apparently constructed in nineteen forty two and 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: once house blims to use in World War Two. Seventeen 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: stories high, wow, one thousand feet long, three hundred feet wide. 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: It's really mostly wooden and they let it burn. So 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: what they're finding out now is that it's not good 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: for the air with the debris and ash from the fire. 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Let's talk now to Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner of 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: what's going on down there about this health emergency. Don, 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: how are you? 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm good, Ken, How are you good? To be back 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: with you? 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: You know what I meant to do. I meant to 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: check it up here at weather dot com to see 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: what it's saying about your air. So what's the story 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: with the state of emergencies? 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: So the story is, fortunately, on the air, the air 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: is relatively good right now. We had some winds over 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: the course of the last thirty six hours or so 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: that cleared the air out. We are hearing from the 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: Weather Service on the emergency call I was on this 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: morning that we're expecting a storm to come in sometime 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: next week, but right now two things. The general air 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: quality is pretty good, and we were meeting with the 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: Air Quality Management District who tell us that the pollutants 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: that came from the burning are pretty much back to 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: their word, is virtually normal, and so we're seeing much 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: better air quality. And unfortunately what ends up happening is 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: these particles drop onto the ground, so we have more 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: dirt and soot and ash. But the air at least 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: is getting better as we speak and virtually back to normal. 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Something I'm reading don some residents feel like they weren't 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: given up proper heads up as this thing was burning. 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: I did a town hall last night for about two 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: hours with some of the residents who are around the 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: one of the neighborhoods around the blimps hangar and heard 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: that loud and clear from them. It's a question that 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: needs to be taken and will be taken to the 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: Range County Fire authority that was responsible for the initial 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: response and in fact is still on site as it 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: continues to smolder a little bit. That will be one 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: of the questions that I and others of my colleagues 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: and know the Mayor of Tustin was on the call 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: with me. He was hearing it and is also with 67 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: me on Orange County Fire Authority. Are there mistakes that 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: were made in terms of notifying residents at the time, 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: And I don't have an answer for you. We don't 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: know what best practices are with the scientists have yet concluded. 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: The City of Tustin and the County are separately contracting 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: with certified asbestos tractors. Asbestos is the big one that 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: was in those buildings and have people mostly worried too 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: early yet to tell from their investigation, but we will 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: will have them on staff or on contract with the 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: county and actually doing some of the cleanup work. 77 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: What do we know the cause of this? 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: We do not. The area is fenced off, the building 79 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: is closed, there's no electrical or water or any facilities 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: going there, so it remains unknown. The investigators from the 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: fire Authority are not yet able to get access to 82 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: the site because it is still smoldering in places, and 83 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: just the structure itself, what's left the shell is very 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: unstable and so work needs to be done just to 85 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: shore it up before anybody can get in there and 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: do an investigation. 87 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess the other question is Why did 88 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: they just let it burn out? 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: That's a great question. And what I've been told from 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: my sources with the fire authority is that most of 91 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: the burning was actually inside the building. And if you 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: have been in there, those things are utterly massive. They 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: could park six blimps in them at a time, and 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: to the to the point where so high in empty 95 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: space that they would have their own weather. There would 96 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: be clouds forming and rain that would get in there. 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: That's a way of just putting in context how big 98 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: these are. The wood was mostly inside the building, and 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: so we had helicopters that were dumping flame retardan and 100 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: water on it early on, and it was hitting the 101 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: roof and just rolling down the sides and utterly ineffectual 102 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: because the majority of the fire was actually the timbers 103 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: that were inside the structure holding up the roof and 104 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: the walls, and so there really was no way to 105 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: get access to it. It was impossible to send fire 106 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: crews inside because just the danger, and so there really 107 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: wasn't much choice but to let it burn out and 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: let some of the roof crumble to have better access 109 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: to it. 110 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Did they realize that there might be stuff like asbestos 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: in these materials. 112 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: To be honest, I think most people knew that there 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: were asbestos and other chemicals in that building. It was 114 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: built in nineteen forty two and conditions were different, structures 115 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: were built differently. I don't think it comes as a 116 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: surprise to anyone that there was asbestos in there. What 117 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: you do about that in the case of the fire, though, 118 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: or under these circumstances, there really is, sadly, not a 119 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: lot that can be done other than, as we say, 120 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: let it burn out. We're giving notices out to the neighbors, 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: our health department about what they need to do to 122 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: protect themselves. We're seeing things get back to pretty much normal, 123 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: at least with air quality. It is no surprise that 124 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: there was asbestos in there, and it is late to 125 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: say this, but there is another structure, an identical twin 126 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: to the one that burned, and I think we will 127 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: be taking some hard lessons in the event, heaven forbid, 128 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: there'd be a problem with that one. 129 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Well, these are property to the US Navy. 130 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: Right correct. Navy owns the Navy is responsible for maintenance upkeep. 131 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: At this point, we've been in touch with the Navy. 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: They were on the call with me this morning. The 133 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Navy is taking the responsibility that it recognizes it has 134 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: and will be the lead on the actual demolition and 135 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: clean up of the site, removal of the degree, etc. Which, 136 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: because of the chemicals, especially the asbestos, needs to be 137 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: done right, needs to be done professionally and needs to 138 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: be done soon. 139 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: And there was nothing in there in the hangar itself. 140 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: No, no, they were empty. 141 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: All right, Don, thank you so much for that update. 142 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 143 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. With circumstances for better, but thank you. 144 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: All right, that's Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner with an 145 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: update on the situation in Tustin or a massive blimp 146 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: hanger burnt to the ground, and we're talking massive. If 147 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: you've seen the size of blimpse as you heard them say, 148 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: you could fit a number of them into this hangar. 149 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: It was made of wood and apparently that included asbestos. So, 150 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Orange County Health officials are urging people. 151 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: They're giving out these tips avoid touching fired to bring 152 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: an ash. Yeah, that's probably a good idea, and said, oh, 153 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: what does it feel like where protective equipment masks and 154 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: gloves if you might encounter asbestos close to the remove 155 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: your shoes before entering your home, keep your windows closed 156 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: on windy days. Spread your patios with water instead of 157 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: sweeping them. Avoid using leaf blowers. I think that's all 158 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: the time. But wash off ash from your cars, your 159 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: outdoor toys or outdoor furniture, and your pets. Deborah Mark, 160 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: wash off the ash off your pets. Yeah, but you know, 161 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Don said, the situation seems to be better there. I 162 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: didn't really get a clear reading. They used to have 163 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: on my phone when I looked up a city would 164 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: give you sort of the air quality. Oh right, see, 165 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: but he says it's actually better because it was there 166 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: was some wind there, and then if it lingers that 167 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: much next week, we probably got some rain coming in, 168 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: so that'll dampen down the effect of this. But yeah, 169 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: this was used for many movie and TV shows. These 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: big hangars. They went in there and they did scenes 171 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: from movies like Star Trek, Austin Powers, TV shows like 172 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: The X Files and Jag. The hangers were featured in 173 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: those films and movies. All right, as soon as I return, 174 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear a keyword, and you follow the instructions, 175 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: you could win some money. 176 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: That's coming up next you're listening to John and Ken 177 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: on demand from k all. 178 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Right, you know, oh, by the way, coming up after 179 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: two thirty, Oh that story the other day and Sino, 180 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: I think a homeless guy who was rummaging around in 181 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: a dumpster found a person's torso body parts. Steve Gregory 182 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: has the update on that horrifying story. And the man 183 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: who's now been arrested suspected of killing his wife and 184 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: well the in laws are missing. So described as weird 185 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: by neighbors. He's also the son of a Hollywood executive. 186 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: A lot of intriguing details will come your way from 187 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Steve after the news at two thirty. All right, So, 188 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: if you were able to rip off the governor government 189 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: to the United States or maybe the state of California, 190 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: So the tune of millions of dollars, and we're talking 191 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: about the old COVID nineteen pandemic relief scams. What would 192 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: you do with the millions? Because the theory is you 193 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: have to spend it on something, sort of launder it, 194 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: just get it out pretty quickly. You buy goods see 195 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: dear marked by a sanctuary. 196 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: I swear I was just going to say that. 197 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: What kind of animals anything. 198 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 6: I would have cows, I would have goats, I would 199 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 6: have chickens, I'd have turkeys. 200 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: And all the ones that people eat. 201 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, But then I'd also have an area where 202 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 6: I would like to save dogs and cats so that 203 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 6: they wouldn't be in the shelters waiting to be euthanized. 204 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: And you know what, if you scam the government, they 205 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: caught you, that might be good with the jewelry. Look 206 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: what she did with the money. The good thing she 207 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: was saving animals, preserving them from slaughter, bad treatment or whatever. 208 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: No elephants, No elephants, And you're. 209 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: Saying I like elephants. I'd take a few elephants. 210 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: There's not a lot in California to save. 211 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 5: But that's true. 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 6: But tiger, tigers and deer, all the deer from Catalina. 213 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: Oh you're still thinking about that. Okay, you're gonna go 214 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: over there with a very boat and try to take 215 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: them away. I wish I could lure them off with 216 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: some grass or some feed. Yeah, and trying to save 217 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: the In case you don't know, Catalina is still planning 218 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: a big deer hunt because there's too many of them 219 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: and they're destroying the island. So you can shoot from 220 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: a helicopter. 221 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 5: See, if I had. 222 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: My own sanctuary, I would somehow if I had enough 223 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 6: money to have my own sanctuary, the money that I 224 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: guess that I laundered, then I would get them. I'd 225 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 6: somehow get get all of the deer. 226 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: And I believe you. I mean, I mean you might. 227 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: With some of the millions, you probably would buy some 228 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: more expensive coats. But right, So, the first guy I'm 229 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about brought himself an island. How's that? 230 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: It's actually called Sweetheart Island. This was a Florida man, 231 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: a businessman by name of Patrick Parker Walsh. It was 232 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: funny about him. He ran some sort of blimp we're 233 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: talking about blimps again, blimp advertising business that ran into problems. 234 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: So he eventually submitted a whole bunch of fraudulent applications 235 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: during the whole COVID nineteen pandemic relief situation, which was 236 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: so easy to defraud. So it says here that his 237 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: was probably some of the more unusual purchases. More than 238 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty billion dollars went out the door 239 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: in federal COVID nineteen fraud. Another one hundred and twenty 240 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: three billion supposedly misspent or wasted. You they may sound 241 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: like a lot. Do you know how much the US 242 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: government dispersed over the COVID nineteen pandemic four point three 243 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: trillion dollars, So that's a small percent ten percent of 244 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the money went out between fraud and waste. But they're 245 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: still trying to track down the thieves. There's a Tennessee 246 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: rapper who bragged about stealing more than seven hundred grand. 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: He posted that on YouTube. A pizzeria owner and host 248 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: of a cryptocurrency themed radio show, look at this different. 249 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: He bought an alpaca farm in Vermont. 250 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 5: Is that's what we're talking about? 251 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do they do? 252 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: They do? 253 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: They use them for something. 254 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: You're right, he probably didn't have a good intention. Yeah, 255 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: so never mind. 256 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the people like the alpaca coat, right, the feel 257 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: of it there. I don't it's very soft. 258 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 5: I don't wear that. 259 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: An ex Nigerian government official grabbed half a million dollars. 260 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: He was caught wearing a ten thousand dollar watch thirty 261 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: five grand gold chain when he's arrested. Nearly thirty two 262 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: hundred defendants so far have been charged with COVID nineteen 263 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: relief fraud. That they have a long way to go. 264 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: And of course in some of these are foreign actors. Yeah, yeah, 265 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: I gotta find them. There's Constantine zardakas a New York doctor. 266 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: This is a good story. Deeply in debt. So he 267 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: sent in at least eleven separate applications for pandemic aid 268 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: that were fraudulent. He took in three point eight million dollars. Okay, 269 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: So he goes out and he buys a Rolex and 270 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, wristwatches Cardier valued at one hundred and forty grand, 271 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: and he made a big down payment on a yacht. 272 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: But this one's great. He used three million dollars of 273 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen money he ripped off to pay off 274 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: part of a civil judgment against him for breaching a 275 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: real estate lease. He sent eighty thousand dollars of delluded 276 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: cash back to the government to settle a federal lawsuit 277 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: alleged he violated the Controlled Substances Act by dispersing twenty 278 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: thousand doses of a weight loss drug without keeping records. 279 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: So he used some of the money to pay off 280 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: a civil judgment and to pay off the federal government 281 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: to settle the case against him as a doctor. That's 282 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: pretty good because people who do this they don't manage 283 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: their money very well to begin with. They're already involved 284 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: in some shaky things. So another guy by the name 285 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: of Lee E. Price, the third from Houston. He swindled 286 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: nearly one point seven million. He spent fourteen thousand on 287 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: the fourteen thousand dollars on a watch. 288 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: Heep beliked those rolexes. 289 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: I know, and they say, if you're walking around the 290 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: streets of La with one, you gotta be careful. But 291 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: would you show that to people? You want to know 292 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: what people do? 293 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 6: I see people wandering around with those rolexes all the time. 294 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: In your swanky neighborhood. 295 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 5: Huh No, not in my neighborhood. 296 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 6: When I go to John's on the West Side, I 297 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: go to restaurants, I see people. 298 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, two hundred and thirty three grand. He spent 299 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: on a good old, flashy Lamborghini. Oh you know it 300 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: can go? Oh and he bought an suv can go 301 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: from zero to sixty and three seconds. Well, get an 302 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: electric card. You should see. How are you ever in 303 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: a Tesla when it can take off like the Model 304 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: X Wow? No, you wouldn't believe to pick up on 305 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: those cars because of the battery situation. Another guy created 306 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: a fake company. They claimed that they had ten employees, 307 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: so they rushed him money to keep his business and float, 308 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: and he went right out and he oh, he bought 309 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: a Pokemon card in nineteen ninety nine. It's described as 310 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: a cha Chaizard Chahrazad Pokemon card, which is a gold 311 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: dragon like creature. And I guess he thinks, like a 312 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: rare baseball card, it might be worth something, so he 313 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: spent fifty eight thousand. I don't know what's worth today, 314 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: but there you go. Fraudster's in the news and they 315 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: said that they're still working on this. It's like three 316 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: years later, they're still trying to catch people that ripped 317 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: off the government. Federal and good luck California. All right, 318 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: we got more coming up. We'll be checking in with 319 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Steve Gregory coming up next to talk about this grizzly 320 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: story out of Encino, where apparently it started with the 321 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: discovery of a body part and has led to the 322 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: arrest of a man for killing his wife. And now 323 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to find the guys in law. 324 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 325 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 326 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: I just heard another ed pill add in there. It's like, 327 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: I'd much rather do that than have shocked theraphy to 328 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: my penis. I mean, seriously, why would any man choose that. 329 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't care whether or not did you're fifteen years 330 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: younger down there. I'll take the pill, thank you. 331 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 6: Well, just you know, you'd have to deal with just 332 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 6: not having sex that much. 333 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: So if you don't know what that's about, listen to 334 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: the podcast. Is the end of last hour, right go 335 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: to KFIAM six forty dot com four o'clock and use 336 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app and you can hear the whole show 337 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: back and you can hear the discussion of shock therapy 338 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: for your penis. Ah, I got one more animal story 339 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: for you coming up, though I can't wait, of course not, 340 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and I think you are going to want to wait. 341 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure and you won't agree or no. 342 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 6: This has to be a really bad one because the 343 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 6: other one we both agreed on and we were kind 344 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 6: of on the scene. 345 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: Egg I'm coming around to get you. Yeah, I know 346 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: you'll see. There's a lesson, an important lesson. It's the 347 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: only reason I'm doing the story a lesson. Now, this 348 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: story tells us there is something good to come from 349 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: a vagrant. I can't believe I'm saying this, but apparently 350 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: a vagrant is the one that discovered the body part 351 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: of a woman which has led to the arrest of 352 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: a man for killing his wife. It's all happening out 353 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: of the San Fernando Valley places like in Sino Tarizana. 354 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: Let's bring on Steve Gregory KFI News for more on 355 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: this gory story. 356 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: Steve, Yeah, Kim Good afternoon and on Wednesday that a 357 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: homeless person but around six fifty in the morning, was 358 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: rifling through one of the dumpsters and when he discovered 359 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: this bag, and he was looking for recyclables, and inside 360 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: this bag, though, was a dismembered body, and so he 361 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: immediately notified someone who called nine to one one. When 362 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: the officers got there and discovered this, they found inside 363 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: a naked body, but they couldn't really determine who it 364 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: was at that point. There was no distinguished How big 365 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: is this bags? 366 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: How big is this panist? 367 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: I'm assuming based on what I have been told that 368 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: it was like one of those large, you know, large 369 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: trash bags like those what they call them a fifty 370 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: gallon trash bag. I've seen one of those commercial trash bags, 371 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: so that's what I was led to believe. It was 372 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: the size of one of those commercial trash bags. So 373 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: when detective started really looking into it, within a few 374 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: hours they were able to arrest a man named Sam 375 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: Haskell Junior, and they arrested him in Tarzana at a mall. 376 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: But Haskell has a two point one million dollar our 377 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: house in Tarzana and that's where Haskel, his wife, their 378 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: three children, and his wife's mother and father all lived 379 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: at once. Well, what's unusual about this now is the 380 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: wife is missing as well as the in laws. The 381 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: kids were in school on that morning and they were 382 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: able to be taken to a relatives home where that's 383 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: where they remain now. Haskel Junior is in jail on 384 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: two million dollars bail. They are expected to file at 385 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: least one murder charge against him on Monday. And the 386 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: reason I say that is because it seems highly suspicious 387 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: that not only do you have the one bag filled 388 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: with body parts, but now you don't have the in 389 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: laws there. You can't find the in laws and both 390 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: of their vehicles are missing, and now investigators are telling 391 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: me that it would appear to be that the mother 392 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: and father have also met their demise. And that's because 393 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: there's been some stories leaking out about other bags being 394 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: found in the house and evidence of dismemberment, is what 395 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: one dodective said. 396 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, then that I understand as a way a murderer 397 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: makes it more difficult to idea bodies, so they don't. 398 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: They're saying it is a woman's body parts that were 399 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: found by the homeless guy. 400 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: Right, and but they but they can't rush to a 401 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: conclusion on it because they don't have a definite ID 402 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: and it could very well be the mother. It could 403 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: be the mother of the of the or his in law, 404 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 2: his mother in law. So that's why it's been some 405 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: there's no rush to judgment on this. And when you've 406 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: got a situation where you might have blood evidence, which 407 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: detectives have said that they found, it's not that simple. 408 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: If you've got even if it's familial DNA where they 409 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: all come from the same lineage, it's still hard to 410 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: separate out the DNA profiles from a mixture of blood 411 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: like that, they don't have a baseline from which to 412 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: work with. So they have to go through and find 413 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: They got to find DNA samples from each of those 414 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: individuals somehow and then try to profiles to see if 415 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: indeed blood evidence that they recovered is that of one, two, 416 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: or all three of those people. 417 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: They were pretty quick to arrest him. There were surveillance 418 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: footage that they used showing him throwing this bag in 419 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: this dumpster. 420 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they said they had evidence based on surveillance footage 421 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: that showed him at the scene of where the body 422 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: was found. But that's as far as they would really go. 423 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: They wouldn't really get into much detail about it. The 424 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 2: interesting thing about Sam Sam Haskell Junior is his father 425 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: is a very well known former agent to the stars. 426 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: He had clients like Dolly Parton, George Clooney, would be Goldberg. 427 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: So Haskell grew up in a very wealthy and very 428 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: affluent circle. I had been told by other people that 429 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: claimed to have known him and claimed to have actually 430 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: gone to school with him, that he was a very 431 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: troubled child, even back in private school, and had been 432 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: taken out of the one of the private high schools 433 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: in the valley because he had violent tendencies and was 434 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: very difficult to deal with He had an assault with 435 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: deadly weapon charge back in eight His neighbors have described 436 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: him as weird. 437 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: I saw that weird, one neighbor said, I just took 438 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: something about it was very strange, right. 439 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: And then he had a pseudonym or a professional name, 440 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: if you will, Samuel Baschinger. And he's a director with 441 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: credits now that his credits go back to twenty thirteen 442 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: with this pseudonym. But he's known to work with Machine 443 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: Gun Kelly who's a music artist, Taiga which is a 444 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: music artist, and Olivia Holt who's also. 445 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 5: I think she's an actress. 446 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: And then his mom former Mississippi with the Miss USA pageant. 447 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: And in one of his social media posts, because he 448 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: was very active on social media, and on one of 449 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: his social media posts, he posted a short video in 450 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: which he says, my resume says unhappy, bitter and resentful. 451 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: So if that gives you a little peek into who 452 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: this guy is. 453 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: But he did have some kind of a job involving 454 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: people in the music business, you say. 455 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the entertainment industry. Like I said, 456 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 2: he was in a very expensive house. I think it 457 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: was six bedrooms that it was over worth over two 458 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: million dollars, six bedrooms. Like I said, all the family 459 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: lived there. It's not clear. An apparent immediate motive is 460 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: not clear. But when we get the filing on Monday. 461 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: I was told that they're going to probably file the 462 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: murder charge on Monday morning. And it's very possible they 463 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: might file murder charges against him for the in laws too, 464 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: if they're able to find the other bags, because a 465 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: neighbor said, a neighbor claims that she was told by 466 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: LAPD when they went by there that we can't go 467 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: in the house, but there are other body parts. 468 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: And other bags in the house. 469 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: But that was a neighbor's assertion and we have not 470 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: independently confirmed that. 471 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: All Right, Steve, thank you very much for that Reportably 472 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: you're looking to see what you come up with on Monday. 473 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, all right. 474 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: That's Steve Gregory CAFI News. This gruesome story out of 475 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: the San Fernando Valley. A manned by the name of 476 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Samuel Haskell, the son of sam Haskell Senior. There's a 477 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: big movie TV guy, president of Magnolia Hill Productions. Anyway, 478 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: the sun has been arrested and it looks like they 479 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: found a bag probably we don't know. It could be 480 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: his wife's body parts, and his in laws are also missing. 481 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: He spared His children apparently found safely at school. But wow, 482 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: neighbors described him strange. If you look at the pictures, 483 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: he does have those eyes that just look really off. 484 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: Something's clearly not right. 485 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 486 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 487 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Coming up next hour. Oh, it's Friday, three o'clock. You 488 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: don't want to miss this. If you do, you can 489 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: always check out the podcast posted up in the four 490 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: o'clock hour on the app or at KFIAM six forty 491 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: dot com. But we have of a sheriff from Sacramento 492 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: County who's tipped at Target and Walgreens because they wanted 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: to combine with them to set up an operation to 494 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: nab shoplifters, and he doesn't think that they really were 495 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: cooperating very well. The details will come from Alex Stone, 496 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: ABC News from KFI. He'll be on after three o'clock 497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: to tell us what the complaint is by the Sacramento 498 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: County sheriff against these big retailers not seeming to care 499 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: enough to want to stop shoplifting. In their stores. This 500 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: story that people have been talking about that a woman 501 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: that was trying to visit an inmate in Orange County. 502 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: Orange County Jail called the o'lacey she got locked in 503 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: over an eight because she fell asleep. Yeah, but ships well, 504 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: she was at the maximum security jail of visiting inmate 505 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: was directed to a public visiting area. All right, So 506 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: she fell asleep in the visiting area, the visiting booth. 507 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: I guess I was at where like the inmate comes 508 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: in behind the plextion you talk, and no one noticed 509 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: her there when they closed the place at five pm. 510 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: She was not discovered until they reopened the next morning. 511 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Get eight. Is she gonna sue? 512 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: Is that? What? This is? 513 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: The woman? What? The woman was treated for a laceration 514 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: to her hand. 515 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 5: Well, she was probably trying to, you know, bang. 516 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: Open a door, karate chop her way out. 517 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 518 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, so isn't there anybody in the jail overnight that 519 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: can see on a security camera that there's somebody going 520 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: crazy in the visiting room. 521 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 6: Apparently there was no camera there. She didn't she had 522 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 6: to turn in her cell phone. 523 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: You're right. 524 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: Security cameras inside the waiting area can only be monitored 525 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: from the guard station inside the room, which was not 526 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: manned overnight because they don't allow visits overnight, so they 527 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: just shut the thing down. There is no phone inside 528 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: the visitors waiting area. The woman was not allowed by 529 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: state law to bring her cell phone agency, so she 530 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: couldn't call anybody. You're doing it. Oh, she's gonna sue, 531 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: isn't she If she hurt her hand and she was 532 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: screaming to get out of there. Yeah, when if she 533 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: had a Medican emergency, that's right there, So an internal investigations. 534 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: I think you need to look around better before you 535 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: shut the place. 536 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 6: You imagine how stressful that would be. I mean, forget 537 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: that you're in a jail anywhere where you can't get out. 538 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: Just gonna slide down and take another nap. They'll be 539 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: back in the morning. Would you really be that stressed out? 540 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 541 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: I like getting stuck in an elevator, which makes me 542 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: queasy in case it drops her. 543 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that would be horrible. Yeah, that's probably the 544 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: worst thing. But you don't have your cell phone. 545 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? Just twiddle your thumbs? Yeah, 546 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 5: took a nap, but she already took a nap that 547 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: was the problem. I know, I I'm tired anymore. 548 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: You all right? I mean, I'm sure they got to 549 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: find you in the morning. I don't think it's that 550 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: stressful a situation, but this is leading to it. They're 551 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna instore an emergency phone in the waiting area. Well, 552 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: there you go, just like you have in the elevators. 553 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: She's probably hungry, and now you'll find out there's nobody 554 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: overnight that answers that phone. Yes, send her a pizza. 555 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: She's probably hungry, says Deborah Mark, speaking of hungry. Well, sorry, 556 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: I have to come around with another animal story for 557 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: you that did not have a good ending, not for 558 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: the animal but for the lady. Well, a woman in 559 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: Arizona who only met well, it looks like she was 560 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: on her own property in a place the Pine Lake community. 561 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: This is fifteen miles southeast of Kingman, Arizona, if you 562 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: know where that is. She apparently went out because she 563 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: thought it's a good day to feed the elk. 564 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 565 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: Oh, can he guess what happened? No, grandma got run 566 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: over by an elk. Yes, she went out under a property. 567 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: According to her husband, When he returned around six pm, 568 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: he found her on the ground in the backyard with 569 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: injuries consistent with being trampled by an elk. And then 570 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: he saw a bucket of spilled corn nearby. There are 571 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: no witnesses to the event, and I guess they didn't 572 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: really have security cameras on this property. Do you have 573 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: security cameras? 574 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I do, was all over the place. 575 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: I told this story before, but I feel like I 576 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: must be the only one my neighborhood does, because the 577 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: police are always can we check out your security for why? 578 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: God, everybody has cameras that I know of. 579 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: I thought so, but it seems like my neighbors in 580 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: the immediate area they're older. I guess they don't bother. 581 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't seem to because they're always asking me if 582 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: they can look at Not always, but it's happened twice 583 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: this year, which I thought was unusually high if they 584 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: can look at some footage that maybe I picked up 585 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: something suspicious. All one of them was a small car accident. 586 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: And did you did your camera pick up anything? 587 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: No? 588 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: It did not. No, Sometimes it misses motion or it's 589 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: hard to explain. 590 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I get it. 591 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: I have the same You've had the same problem, right, 592 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: There's like a skip in it. Yep, yep, uh the well. 593 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: The husband immediately called emergency services. She was alive, but 594 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: they put her in a medically induced coma and eventually 595 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: she she died. 596 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: That's sad. 597 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: The lesson here is do not feed wild animals, especially 598 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: if they are bigger than you. 599 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 6: Looks yes, and I'm not don't email me. I'm not 600 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 6: laughing that this woman died. 601 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: It's just oh, I feel bad too. 602 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel really bad. 603 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: But you have to make wise decisions in life. And 604 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: if an animal, I mean, I've told this story before. 605 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: Trip I made the Yellowstone years ago out on a 606 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: trail and there right ahead of me was a moose 607 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: and it was one freaking large moose and I just stopped. 608 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: It was feeding on a tree and looking over at me. 609 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: But I said, I did not have an impose to 610 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: say hi. 611 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: Did you tell Elsie? 612 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: I did not take out a granola bar? Would you 613 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: like it? 614 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: Snack? 615 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: Who would do that? 616 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: Well? 617 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Plenty of I stood my ground. I said, I don't 618 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: want to run either, And eventually I walked off in 619 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: a separate trail and it didn't. It just put its 620 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: head back in the tree and ignored me. I'm sure, you. 621 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 5: Didn't take a picture. You you didn't want to take 622 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 5: a picture. 623 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: You know what I didn't have. This is that long ago. 624 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: I didn't have a self mobile phone. Then this is 625 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: a while ago, so I wasn't carrying like a traditional 626 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: camera either at the time. Because is a very short walk, 627 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: I took a Niellowstone. 628 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 6: I don't think you would have taken a picture, though, 629 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 6: because you would have been too worried. 630 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: Right that they Yeah, I think that takes precedence. 631 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get a little nervous over at the encounter. Yeah. Yeah. 632 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: They are putting doorhanngers on people's residences warning them not 633 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: to approach or try to feed the elk. And they 634 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: look like a moose, they're that big. And they spoke 635 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: with the victims husband and other residents, and they did 636 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: observe multiple elk tracks in the yard. So clearly this 637 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: woman's probably seen them out there and thought, as we're 638 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: in November now, as late October this happened, maybe there's 639 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: less food for them and just wanted to do the 640 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: right thing by bringing out a bucket of corn. 641 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 6: But no, I mean, I understand it's tempting. I mean, 642 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: if you don't really think about what could happened, right, 643 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 6: you think, oh, oh, it's just going to come over, 644 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 6: it's hungry. I'm just going to feed it, and I'm 645 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 6: gonna walk away. I mean, I could understand how some 646 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 6: people wouldn't realize how dangerous it could be. 647 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Well, this is the first death due to an elk 648 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: attack in the state of Arizona. But there have been 649 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: a tax before, but nobody was killed. Feeding is one 650 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: of the main sources of conflict between humans and wildlife. Fed, 651 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: wildlife becomes habituated to humans. That's what happens, so said 652 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: they total an example, in twenty fifteen, two children suffered 653 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: minor injuries after a food seeking elk circled the picnic 654 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: table from which the family was eating. In twenty twenty one, 655 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: an adult female received serious head injuries from an elk 656 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: that once again got used to the humans and decided 657 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: to come up and take a close look and see 658 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: if you got anything good there, anything you'd like to 659 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: share with me today. So it's like, you know, would 660 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: you do that with a bear? Just hand out? Oh god, no, 661 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: piece of cake? Yeah, all right, were tan? It's the 662 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: Friday three o'clock hour. Is there anything more exciting? Than that, 663 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh Johnny Ken Show. 664 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 5: Nothing. 665 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna have money to give away at three twenty. 666 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: That's right, you're gonna listen to the keyword you could win. 667 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: We're gonna have moistline callers. Parts one three twenty, Part two, 668 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: three fifty. We're gonna throw somebody into that dumpster with 669 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: the mob members. 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