Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another edition of Notificent. I'm one
Speaker 1: half of your host, Danny Fernandez. Sitting across from me
Speaker 1: as always is your boy. If you way, do you wait?
Speaker 1: Just jammed up, charged up, ready to go. I had
Speaker 1: some chuckles and me gotta gotta gotta keep going. Right,
Speaker 1: did you had a good birthday? We all came to
Speaker 1: your birthday party? Oh yeah, I mean and the hangover
Speaker 1: I didn't have. I feel like I have it now.
Speaker 1: I have like a headache to go away. But you
Speaker 1: know what hydration. You're drinking caffeine right now, that's the opposite.
Speaker 1: Well that's because my body needs it. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: giving you a headache cause you ain't drank enough caffeine.
Speaker 1: So then you drinking love it, love it. Today we
Speaker 1: are talking about a movie, um that is twenty years old.
Speaker 1: We're old. Holy crap. Some of it, like so much
Speaker 1: of it. It was so funny because as I was
Speaker 1: watching it, UM, I was just like, wow, they were
Speaker 1: the first ones to really do this. Yeah you can
Speaker 1: hear you too, totally hear you. Yeah. Yeah, your boy's
Speaker 1: back on keto. So my snacks are back to being crunchy.
Speaker 1: So for everyone who keeps asking and keeping tabs on
Speaker 1: everything I'm eating on Twitter. Yes, I'm back on Keto's now.
Speaker 1: That would drive me nuts better. You've got no one
Speaker 1: better write me a single thing about anything I eat. Ever, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a a nice trolley relationship I've
Speaker 1: built in with our friends of the pod and the
Speaker 1: stream and a super punch that everyone needs to make
Speaker 1: sure the things I'm eating is keeping the keto. Thanks
Speaker 1: for keeping me accountable. Now you can do it. We're
Speaker 1: back on. My face is getting fatter. I was going
Speaker 1: to say the thing that people try to hold me accountable,
Speaker 1: which I've asked them not to appeatedly, is when I
Speaker 1: post my workouts and I started posting a lot of
Speaker 1: people know like I have lime in hashimotos and so
Speaker 1: like I took up took a year, honestly off when
Speaker 1: I was trying to heal myself from working out or
Speaker 1: I couldn't work out to the level that I used to,
Speaker 1: so I was like diving back in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years of doing strength training. Now I'm like squatting
Speaker 1: quite a bit. But like people will be your form
Speaker 1: this and that and blah blah, blah, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, do you want me to only post when
Speaker 1: it's absolutely perfect? Like that's not I'm posting my progress.
Speaker 1: And also I did not ask you. I do not.
Speaker 1: I literally have a trainer that you can see in
Speaker 1: the video. So it's like I pay somebody so you
Speaker 1: don't have to tell me crap. But still people will
Speaker 1: tell me, like especially in the chronic illness community, they'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, man, like I saw you do that,
Speaker 1: so then I tried to do it, Like that's the
Speaker 1: whole reason I post. Yeah, I mean in the end,
Speaker 1: like forms gonna shift and change based on the amount
Speaker 1: of weight and struggle, and you know, like and there's
Speaker 1: some dated like things people say about form, Like they're like,
Speaker 1: keep your chest up, keep your chest up when you're squatting.
Speaker 1: But if you have your chest up when you're squatting
Speaker 1: big numbers, you're curving your back and that's way you
Speaker 1: do not want to do that when you're squatting. So
Speaker 1: I just laugh at people because it's like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: not used to big weights. Don't ever talk to me
Speaker 1: in your life again. Also, just a reminder, I have
Speaker 1: my bachelor's Bachelors of Science and kinesiology, which is literally
Speaker 1: exercise science from the University of Texas where all the
Speaker 1: money went into sports. So just going to throw that
Speaker 1: out there. It is our one hundred episode. Enjoining us today,
Speaker 1: we have film and TV critic. She's written for Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 1: It's Chauncey Robinson. Hi, Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: You are a big horror head. Yes, yes, I love horror.
Speaker 1: Horror is my jam. I do a lot of film
Speaker 1: and TV critic reviews, but I can have a real
Speaker 1: love for all horror that's so dope, which I usually
Speaker 1: give it a lot more space when I review because
Speaker 1: you got something, you know, you get those indie ones
Speaker 1: and staff that aren't you know, I give space. So
Speaker 1: what was your first like, uh, what is the scary
Speaker 1: movie that you remember the most? Like? When how old
Speaker 1: were you when he first saw I don't know, your
Speaker 1: first horror movie. I don't know, probably like I mean,
Speaker 1: my brother and my mom tell me it was like
Speaker 1: six or seven years old. It was like the Nightmare
Speaker 1: Elm Street franchise, which I was like deathly afraid of.
Speaker 1: And any time my mom would go out and my
Speaker 1: brother was ten years older, me would babysit. He My
Speaker 1: mom was like, now, don't play Nightmare Stree, and of
Speaker 1: course he would play it. At any time that Freddie
Speaker 1: came on. He would cover my head with the blanket,
Speaker 1: but of course I could still hear Freddie, so I'd
Speaker 1: have dreams. And I never really knew what Freddie looked like,
Speaker 1: so he always took the form of like my old
Speaker 1: teachers or so ever, like trying to kill me with
Speaker 1: claws of some sort. And it was really cool because
Speaker 1: once I got older, Um, I grew up a lot
Speaker 1: of boys, like so I was like the baby but
Speaker 1: surrounded by all boys. So they would play tricks on
Speaker 1: me with with Freddie and stuff. But then I got
Speaker 1: oldered for some reason, there was like some sort of
Speaker 1: switch and I just came to love Freddie and all
Speaker 1: of that. And I just actually recently visited the Nightmare
Speaker 1: elm Stree house that's actually here in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it is. It was very exciting. I tried. I
Speaker 1: stayed behind the bushes so that the homeowner when I
Speaker 1: took my picture, but yeah, it was very it was
Speaker 1: like a full circle moment. There's a couple of those
Speaker 1: out here, a couple of famous horror one, Halloween one
Speaker 1: is out here. It's a little bit further out. It
Speaker 1: was more in the valley, the Halloween one. Um. I
Speaker 1: also went to the Brady Bunch House too, isn't there one?
Speaker 1: Is that the one where the Halloween houses and passage? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think yeah, the Halloween Yeah. And then right next
Speaker 1: door to it, they have a very cool um gallery
Speaker 1: there that has all the pictures from the So they're
Speaker 1: kind of capitalizing on the fact that people go there
Speaker 1: for it. Um. Yeah, because they actually they moved it.
Speaker 1: They the house was moved because I guess it was
Speaker 1: in line for demolition and they were afraid that, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's like an historic part. So they just moved
Speaker 1: it across the street. And now it's like a train
Speaker 1: track right there. So there's only like a little bit
Speaker 1: of part to like take a picture in front of,
Speaker 1: which kind sects, but like you know, you kind of
Speaker 1: get the selfie on the angle and then like high
Speaker 1: behind a tree and like sate Michael and stuff. It's
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, I know, like they have you been
Speaker 1: to the Amityville House? I haven't. Yeah, there's so many
Speaker 1: like horror houses and have you done any because Danny
Speaker 1: is Um. I'm trying to find a better way to
Speaker 1: say this, but I say crazy because she goes to
Speaker 1: a lot of haunted places. Do you ever do any
Speaker 1: of that stuff? Oh? Yeah, one of the things I
Speaker 1: wanted to do when I mean I grew up. I
Speaker 1: was born and raised in Jersey on the East Coast.
Speaker 1: I can hear about about three years now down in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and one of the things I wanted to
Speaker 1: do eventually was like the go because a lot of
Speaker 1: the haunted places seems to feel like they're more so
Speaker 1: on the East Coast, like the Assylum and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I want to eventually, like maybe spend the night in
Speaker 1: one of those places and just kind of like fill
Speaker 1: it here. An asylum I can't do. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: maybe if I had like a crew or something with me,
Speaker 1: because I did this like comedy ghost Hunting Pilot, where
Speaker 1: we spent the night at Bob Baker's Marionette Theater, which
Speaker 1: has a good vibe to it, and not all places do, um,
Speaker 1: but someplace I would recommend is in San Diego. They
Speaker 1: have the Whaley House, which I've been to multiple times.
Speaker 1: In fact, I did like a paper on it, and um,
Speaker 1: it's one of travel channels most haunted places. I think
Speaker 1: you can't spend the night there. Um, it was like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's an old town San Diego. Several people have died
Speaker 1: for various reasons in that area and old town is
Speaker 1: historical and it's awesome. Like there's a cemetery that's close by,
Speaker 1: and there's like you know, people wear garb from that time,
Speaker 1: and there's like candle making and and all of that.
Speaker 1: The house is small because people were just like smaller
Speaker 1: back then. You know. It's like everything's more petite, Like
Speaker 1: the beds are petite, the doorways and stuff. Um, So
Speaker 1: I love it. But yeah, actually I don't. I can't
Speaker 1: remember if I've said this on here, but we just
Speaker 1: filment back when he was more famous. He like spent
Speaker 1: the night they're doing a story, uh as a reporter,
Speaker 1: and he said he saw like a woman crawl up
Speaker 1: the wall and he was like, I'm never never again.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you should do it, if you know.
Speaker 1: I was so for BuzzFeed multiplayer, we're going to do
Speaker 1: a video where we try and stream a scary game
Speaker 1: in the Queen Mary, which is haunted, and like they
Speaker 1: had the room set up and all that. But due
Speaker 1: to like do to paperwork, like we yeah you know,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the producing side of things like you know,
Speaker 1: location releases and all that, we couldn't get get it done.
Speaker 1: So everyone's like, oh dang, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh damn, I was. I hated it. It was so
Speaker 1: like we're in the room and even with the lights on,
Speaker 1: like there was this locked door, like it was like
Speaker 1: it went no one would mention it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what's up with this? And no one talked about And
Speaker 1: I was like, see this is a problem, Like y'all
Speaker 1: got to explain everything in this room and I'm pointing
Speaker 1: to this locked door and nobody want to talk to
Speaker 1: me about it. But you're so much bigger than me.
Speaker 1: It's so funny that I like openly go into these faces.
Speaker 1: Well then that's the thing where it's like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be afraid of fighting like a monster or two per cobra.
Speaker 1: But ghosts, you know, they don't you know, they don't
Speaker 1: really hard to you. They harm you because they're terrifying
Speaker 1: just that they are there. But there's not too too
Speaker 1: many stories of them actually like picking up a knife
Speaker 1: and stabbing you or something like they do in scary movies.
Speaker 1: You can usually pick up on vibes to can you
Speaker 1: like believe in that sort of thing? Like I have
Speaker 1: three cats, so that's supposed to keep demons in that
Speaker 1: spirits the way I really do believe in that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like royalty. Yeah yeah, Like historically I got the
Speaker 1: segment tattoo right here. That's cool. If I was going
Speaker 1: to say, while we're still talking to geeking out about
Speaker 1: horror stuff, our friend Ali Gertz, remember she had like
Speaker 1: Halloween party or whatever, and somebody was like, I'll bring
Speaker 1: agi board like in the Facebook group, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: unless you want something, if I'm there, something will happen.
Speaker 1: Like I just a racked that open energy, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. You're not gonna be like playing
Speaker 1: around if I'm there, Like something's gonna percent show up.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well, speaking of all that are what are
Speaker 1: you what are you speaking out about? Um? Recently, I've
Speaker 1: been watching The Hunters on Amazon, the al Pacino. It's
Speaker 1: you know, executive produced by Jordan and Pill but it's
Speaker 1: a really good one about uh Nazi hunters uh that
Speaker 1: I really loved. I actually did a review on it
Speaker 1: too that people can find on Rotten Tomatoes where it.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that it mixes real history with
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of origin of superhero of uh,
Speaker 1: because we actually really did have like Nazi hunters back
Speaker 1: in the ninety seventies and one, and there's still some today,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms and um yeah, it's just great performance.
Speaker 1: It's really bloody. If you like the Boys on Amazon,
Speaker 1: then you like that. I didn't care for the Boys,
Speaker 1: but I like this. I like the Gore is this
Speaker 1: is similar, but I think the characterizations are a lot better.
Speaker 1: And Alpacino it's a it's like his most Alpacino and
Speaker 1: um yeah, it's great ten episodes and it's good, good
Speaker 1: hearty um entertainment. Ye yeah, No, I'm super excited to
Speaker 1: check it out because I've been hearing like, you know,
Speaker 1: mixed sides where some people are like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: love it and some people are oh man, you know,
Speaker 1: and that I usually like, I feel like, you know, now,
Speaker 1: there's this weird thing of like everyone has to like
Speaker 1: or hate something. But I the more enticing to me
Speaker 1: is because once again I'll go on this again, is
Speaker 1: UH is like if you dislike something, you need to
Speaker 1: be able to tell me why and go into detail
Speaker 1: instead of saying this thing sucks, because that isn't criticism,
Speaker 1: that's just being you're you're just that's nothing that gives
Speaker 1: me no information. So uh, that's that's what I like.
Speaker 1: Is I like watching things, even if I might not
Speaker 1: not necessarily be the biggest fan of it. Is like,
Speaker 1: let me see why don't but I'm probably gonna like it.
Speaker 1: That's that's how I was with um, I can I
Speaker 1: cannot stand Hereditary came out. I couldn't stand. I loved
Speaker 1: it and I hate scary stuff. And then I actually
Speaker 1: went to go watch mid Summer and after that I
Speaker 1: was like, boo me once, shame on you, shame on me.
Speaker 1: I'm never coming to a theater to watch areos. This
Speaker 1: is so funny. I'm not doing that because I I
Speaker 1: saw it with you, right, I saw Midsummer or whatever.
Speaker 1: I did not like it either. I did not enjoy it.
Speaker 1: It made me, but I was like he did. And
Speaker 1: they had us fill out a survey after arts two,
Speaker 1: and I felt so bad because I don't want to
Speaker 1: give this. However, what for me? I was so uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: did not enjoy it like that element of it, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, you did your job if you
Speaker 1: made me feel any type of way, and then having
Speaker 1: no emotion, I'm like, you made me hate this movie
Speaker 1: and I was so uncomfortable and you did your job
Speaker 1: then if that's what you wanted, Like, you can't control
Speaker 1: people's reaction to it. So but it's so funny to
Speaker 1: hear that because so many people were in love with
Speaker 1: it and I can't. You did your job, well, you
Speaker 1: made me feel well, that's the thing with Ari. And
Speaker 1: it's so interesting because I find that a lot of
Speaker 1: like horror ends typically are like, Okay, we get what
Speaker 1: you're doing, because like there's a formula and he kind
Speaker 1: of goes against it. And that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: like because it kind of spoon feeds me where he
Speaker 1: just does long, drawn out dread. It's not very jump scary.
Speaker 1: It's very slow paced and like and I just eat
Speaker 1: it up. Did you um watch the problem with the
Speaker 1: the or it's the weird thing about the kid didn't
Speaker 1: sit through that? But I saw I was like nope,
Speaker 1: And but then when I saw I found out about
Speaker 1: that after I watched this stuff, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this makes perfect sense. This guy had such a bleak
Speaker 1: view of humanity. Yeah, there's just no hope. And I
Speaker 1: know it's weird as a horror fan to say that
Speaker 1: I actually enjoy hope and horror movies led to me.
Speaker 1: I like, you know, when I dissect films, I look
Speaker 1: at story structure, right, I look at you know, is
Speaker 1: there a journey I can go on that I can
Speaker 1: you know, hope for something, whether it's for the monster
Speaker 1: or whether it's for the you know, protagonist. And I
Speaker 1: just felt like he just has these movies where it's
Speaker 1: just like there's no hope. What what is this like
Speaker 1: two hours of just feeling really uncomfortable. It's it's so
Speaker 1: funny because you know, I don't think it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes horror enticing to a lot
Speaker 1: of horror fans. I think it's it's the it's for example,
Speaker 1: the movie because I just did um, Haley Mancini and
Speaker 1: George oz is uh Godzilla podcast and almost like, didn't
Speaker 1: god look them out during the reconstruction period in Entrepanels.
Speaker 1: I yes, because Godzilla is an allegory the devastation of
Speaker 1: the atomic bomb, and like that. I think that horror
Speaker 1: moves is that same way of like, yes on the outskirts.
Speaker 1: It seems like this very scary movie, but at the
Speaker 1: heart of it, it's hope that no matter how scary
Speaker 1: things get, no matter what's going down, there's hope that
Speaker 1: you can survive, that you can outlast, you know, the
Speaker 1: horrors of the world around you. And are kind of
Speaker 1: just takes that and goes, no, everything's bad. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to keepetting my money. I understand.
Speaker 1: I did it because I had a similar situation with
Speaker 1: a video game. I forget what video game it was.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out in we're talking, but it was
Speaker 1: this video game where the premise the premises the world
Speaker 1: the apocalypse happened, the world ended, there's not that many
Speaker 1: humans left, We're not going to survive save what's left.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, this it seems like I
Speaker 1: already lost, like an existential crisis. Yeah. I just like
Speaker 1: after the intro, was like, I kind of don't want
Speaker 1: to feel like the bad guys already wanted. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of horror scary movie, would you say that there's Well, first,
Speaker 1: what was everyone's favorite memory from this film? I remember
Speaker 1: as a kid watching this, you know when because this
Speaker 1: came out in two thousands, so now I wouldn't I
Speaker 1: wasn't a kid. I was like a teenager and this
Speaker 1: hit right at the age I needed it to hit.
Speaker 1: And you know, like it was like it was that
Speaker 1: goofy funny and you know, going back and watch there
Speaker 1: are some things that just definitely do not hold up,
Speaker 1: but in a way like it's it's like it kind
Speaker 1: of like is still trying to be like funny. You know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some stuff when people will do
Speaker 1: like off color jokes where you can tell is just
Speaker 1: being malicious and like making fun of where more it's like, no,
Speaker 1: we're just having fun and this is just all silly.
Speaker 1: And like the references to all the movies like picking
Speaker 1: up on that was great. I said this before we
Speaker 1: record it is I've also recently rewatched Screaming the Matrix,
Speaker 1: so like I was able to kind of pick up
Speaker 1: on those things, especially like they really did like knock
Speaker 1: it out the park Um and I have to say,
Speaker 1: it is ambitious to uh to do a parody of
Speaker 1: Scared of Scream when scream itself is almost a parody.
Speaker 1: It's a parody of slasher films, so like it's this
Speaker 1: should not work, but because they play with it, they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what if we take this and make it more slapsticky,
Speaker 1: make it more you know, fart jokey, and it works
Speaker 1: the literal most part. Job penis. I'm like a lot
Speaker 1: of that by men, just like remember when they were
Speaker 1: teens wanting to get laid constantly. Um so yeah, so
Speaker 1: if he is right, it's twenty years old, it's and
Speaker 1: a lot of it does hold up, which is is
Speaker 1: uh to me. They were the first ones to really
Speaker 1: make these parody films stick. Um. And that is the
Speaker 1: Waynes Brothers. It's Keenan Ivory Waynes, and it was writers
Speaker 1: Marlon and Sean and then they had collaborators Phil Bowman
Speaker 1: and Aaron Seltzer. Definitely felt very guy heavy with all
Speaker 1: the jocks. Oh, I think we can just slowly make
Speaker 1: our way to this movie because the thing I do
Speaker 1: like about the movie is it is so perfectly early
Speaker 1: odds it from the outfits to the re princes. I mean,
Speaker 1: so we have the opening scene that matches, it matches,
Speaker 1: it's matching the opening scene of screen and um, I
Speaker 1: didn't get the name of that. I remember back then,
Speaker 1: I knew who the Carmen Electra. Yeah, that was Carmen
Speaker 1: elect Gosh, why didn't I notice that was Karmen Electra.
Speaker 1: It was funny too because they were talking about her
Speaker 1: in Dennis Rodman Yes, and then they made a Prince joke,
Speaker 1: which was, Yeah, it really kind of needed to have
Speaker 1: her as that because so many of the jokes that
Speaker 1: play were based off of her whole thing, like running
Speaker 1: through the sprinklers and then that whole because she was
Speaker 1: supposed to be like the next Pamela Anderson when all
Speaker 1: that came out, and just what she said about Prince
Speaker 1: about my boyfriend, I just screwed him. Yeah, that was that.
Speaker 1: That whole opening scene was funny, but it also like
Speaker 1: sets the tone for the movie in such a great
Speaker 1: way because it's funny, but it it also is like
Speaker 1: that scary movie violence, like even the gag of like
Speaker 1: stabbing her boob and and silicone coming out, which like
Speaker 1: also that's like it's there's a level of like like
Speaker 1: not taking yourself seriously to allow that happen in a
Speaker 1: movie and like play along with it. That. I got
Speaker 1: to give props to Carbon Electra two because I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, people can be very guarding of their image,
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, we're gonna make fun of myself
Speaker 1: and my relationships. But it was um, but then it
Speaker 1: was also still very violent, and then you're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this is pretty violent. And then she gets ran over
Speaker 1: by her parents, who are who are you know doing
Speaker 1: a little drive action. So it's like perfectly gets you
Speaker 1: ready for the movie that you're about to see. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, speaking and making fun of yourself.
Speaker 1: This was on a Ferris breakout role how she became
Speaker 1: known and I was watching this and I was like,
Speaker 1: I would have been, So she was in her early twenties,
Speaker 1: like so insecure about so many of these jokes. Like
Speaker 1: it was it was also peak, like you said, it
Speaker 1: was peaked, TRL peak like Brittany, Christina, Jessica whatever, all
Speaker 1: of those which you kind of looked like a a
Speaker 1: elaboration of all of them put together. Um, but even
Speaker 1: the jokes of her like having Harry boobs or like,
Speaker 1: there were so many jokes like that where even in
Speaker 1: the second one to where I was like, man, that's
Speaker 1: so funny. You just don't really see actresses being willing
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, uh, and she definitely was. So
Speaker 1: she also like just her comedy chops were the fact
Speaker 1: that she hadn't really been acting for at least in
Speaker 1: anything major. I was super impressed with. Yeah, she didn't
Speaker 1: even have an agent when she she said in interviews,
Speaker 1: like it was she didn't even think she had a
Speaker 1: head shot. Yeah, that's so wild, I mean, and also like,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't we can't get in a scary
Speaker 1: movie without me play paying respects to the the parody
Speaker 1: movies that preceded it that made it, which was my favorite,
Speaker 1: Don't Be a Menace to South Central while Drinking Juice
Speaker 1: in the Hood, which Keen and Ivory Waynes produced that
Speaker 1: he was an actor director in Scary Movie, but he
Speaker 1: produced that, and then even before that, he was a
Speaker 1: writer and director of I'm Going Get You, Sucker, which one,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I always think about that, like it's
Speaker 1: like a whole movie can be made on the bit
Speaker 1: of the like pimp being released and yeah, in this
Speaker 1: age that has passed him up. I'm like, that's a movie,
Speaker 1: Like that's a draw, Like I would love to see
Speaker 1: that drama of a pimp being reintroduced to the world.
Speaker 1: And they like, no, pimps aren't cool anymore and they're
Speaker 1: making fun of him. Oh yeah, so so the so
Speaker 1: parody isn't new to Keenan Ivory Wayne. So like if
Speaker 1: anyone was gonna do it, it definitely was him. Uh.
Speaker 1: And of course, uh, since Keenan Ivory Waynes had a job,
Speaker 1: so did the rest of his family. Yeah. I love
Speaker 1: I love that model. So yeah, so then we go
Speaker 1: from the murder to you we open up. We were
Speaker 1: introduced kind of to our main cast as um, you
Speaker 1: already said Anna Faris, and then we also had um
Speaker 1: Regina Hall. But who was the the girlfriend that who
Speaker 1: was spoofy the American pie Buffy? Yeah, Buffy? What was her?
Speaker 1: What's the actress who played Buffy? Actress Shannon Elizabeth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Shannon Elizabeth is playing Buffy. Anna Faris playing Sydney.
Speaker 1: And Regina Hall. What was the name of her character?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, Brenda Brenda. Yes, because
Speaker 1: the Brandon Brenda, which honestly just these two Regina Hall
Speaker 1: and an affairs. I want to I need them to
Speaker 1: do another movie together because I remember, like, not only
Speaker 1: in this movie do they kill it, but in Scary
Speaker 1: movie too, they kill it and just there. The way
Speaker 1: they play together and then on their own is like
Speaker 1: comedy super team. I'm so glad that they brought Regina
Speaker 1: Hall back for two at three. Okay, so the actor
Speaker 1: that played Greg who's been he's been in like a
Speaker 1: couple of other things to he always plays the same,
Speaker 1: like the kind of dick. I just was like, this
Speaker 1: man looks like he's in his late thirties. And I
Speaker 1: loved it because it was actually and um I think
Speaker 1: Regina to she was like thirty I think at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just love the fact that that is so on
Speaker 1: part because when you would see like Freddie Prince Jr.
Speaker 1: He would be like twenty seven playing a fifteen year old.
Speaker 1: I made all of us insecure, I think growing up
Speaker 1: because he thought we were supposed to look like people
Speaker 1: we were like fifteen or something and they were all
Speaker 1: like twenty five. And actually make that joke in the
Speaker 1: movie like oh they'll get like Jennifer Love huge tits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like people who are twenty five playing then and
Speaker 1: they're all joking because they're approaching thirty. That's so yeah,
Speaker 1: that was so funny. Uh So they they're they're all
Speaker 1: kind of sitting around chopping it up and and so
Speaker 1: then we get to one of the one of my
Speaker 1: first big laugh moments. This is one of the scenes
Speaker 1: that I would just rewind over and over, which is
Speaker 1: all the different news reporting on the killing, and we
Speaker 1: get to black black news and it was funny because
Speaker 1: it's is tackling because this was still when that trope
Speaker 1: was live that you know, black people were killed first
Speaker 1: and scary movies, so they they just kind of nodded
Speaker 1: to that, got out and just was in. Then we
Speaker 1: kind of get to be not too I know what
Speaker 1: you did last summer, and we'll get into those details
Speaker 1: right after this break and we're back. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Welcome back to nerdifficent Um. Your host if you wide away.
Speaker 1: Across from me is Daddy Fernandez and our wonderful guests, Johncey,
Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm good, You're doing a good job
Speaker 1: so far. We have our guests place. This is something
Speaker 1: that we we mentioned every couple of months is that
Speaker 1: we're on the comedy side of the network, so we're
Speaker 1: not all facts and uh yeah, yeah, we kind of
Speaker 1: I can't say the word that I want to say.
Speaker 1: We kind of talk around, kind of dock around. We
Speaker 1: messed around, We messed around. We like to have fun here.
Speaker 1: We're talking about fun properties as in scary movie. So
Speaker 1: if you were getting into the I Know What You
Speaker 1: Did Last Summer, which honestly, it's kind of funny with
Speaker 1: those two franchises, the Scream franchise and the I Know
Speaker 1: What You Did Last Summer franchise was just like two
Speaker 1: teen high schools like battling each other at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like the Freddie Prince Junior, Sarah
Speaker 1: Michelle Giller, and then you had um, um crap boy,
Speaker 1: am I blanking on her name? Who's Nev Campbell? Yeah? Um?
Speaker 1: And then Matthew Lillard and that whole you know, ended
Speaker 1: up doing Scooby Doo and then and then that's in
Speaker 1: the same universe. See, you had Freddie Prince Junior and
Speaker 1: Matthew Lillard and Michelle Dillard came back together. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I was doing scissors, um so yeah, So
Speaker 1: I loved that. There were other things that they spoofed
Speaker 1: in here, though, like a lot of pop culture things
Speaker 1: that weren't just horror related. Yeah. Yeah, we had Matrix
Speaker 1: pop up in there. We had American pie American Pie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were. There's usual Suspects. My favorite part, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite ports because I love that, you know, um,
Speaker 1: this movie twists. I think we always think of, like
Speaker 1: you know, the sixth sense. We think of, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes. We don't talk about the cool
Speaker 1: twist of usual Suspects. They're like, oh, I can't walk,
Speaker 1: just kid, and I can and I'm cool as hit.
Speaker 1: Like that is to me. It's so cool and I
Speaker 1: love that they like truly did it and like there
Speaker 1: was no joke to it. It's just like, no, that
Speaker 1: we're doing this because it's like one of the coolest moments.
Speaker 1: And I think movie twists. But so, speaking of those
Speaker 1: pop culture moments, Roger Ebert actually said he remarked in
Speaker 1: his review that to quote to get your money's worth,
Speaker 1: you would need to be familiar with the various teenage
Speaker 1: horror franchises. I mean, I guess so you don't think
Speaker 1: that you would have to have watched I mean it's funnier.
Speaker 1: You know they're making fun of it, but you can
Speaker 1: just tell they're actually you can just tell they're making
Speaker 1: fun of the dumb girl trope like in a lot
Speaker 1: of it, like there's a scene with carminal Lecture that
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about where like she has the gun,
Speaker 1: the grenade, the blobble and she grabs a banana, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's just like stuff like that where you always
Speaker 1: are screaming in the movie, like why are you going upstairs?
Speaker 1: Why are you going upstairs? You know, And so it's
Speaker 1: just kind of like I think horror movies in general,
Speaker 1: which is like what if he was saying that scream
Speaker 1: was already kind of making fun of those. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it also played on I mean not just the
Speaker 1: horror pictures, but also just like we were saying, like
Speaker 1: pop culture in general, like the fact that with Karma
Speaker 1: Karmen Electra, she had to be that the main person
Speaker 1: in the beginning because there were just so much of
Speaker 1: her and the news of that in that area. So
Speaker 1: it just made sense she was relevant and even if
Speaker 1: you didn't know horror, you knew things about her and
Speaker 1: Prince and Dennis Rodman and and just her being in
Speaker 1: Playboy and stuff. So I thought it was one of
Speaker 1: those things where it used horror and kind of not
Speaker 1: even like to subverted, but like just what horror the
Speaker 1: horror genre can be, which is a reflection at times
Speaker 1: of twisted reflection of society in general, and so I
Speaker 1: feel like there was some sort of like meta but
Speaker 1: also comedy throwing into that because the Wayne's brother is
Speaker 1: particularly keenan. They're just so like well first in that
Speaker 1: sort of way that they go about their comedy. He's
Speaker 1: just so smart. Oh yeah, he's definitely smart and ahead
Speaker 1: of his time, and a lot of his movies will
Speaker 1: show you that. But I think you made a good
Speaker 1: point is you know, a lot of people, to go
Speaker 1: back on our horror theory, which we went off on
Speaker 1: earway in the episode. A lot of what makes horror
Speaker 1: work is taking uh you know, things that that we
Speaker 1: are actually fearing and growing. The reason Exorcist was as
Speaker 1: big as it was was that was back when people
Speaker 1: were afraid of demons possessing people and you know, Chainsaw
Speaker 1: massacre based off of actual murders and nineties. This time
Speaker 1: of time, there wasn't you know that many like horror
Speaker 1: style phobias, which is why you had so many slashes,
Speaker 1: because that's kind of like an easy go to. Everyone
Speaker 1: is afraid of getting stabbed no matter what's going on
Speaker 1: in the world. So it was I think it is
Speaker 1: like to think of like that formula for a horror movie,
Speaker 1: it's a parody. Is a no brainer because if you're
Speaker 1: doing references, now you can reference you know, the things
Speaker 1: we are scared of and you know, movies and stuff
Speaker 1: and the like. And also that's my theory as to
Speaker 1: why I think Midsomar was so popular because with all
Speaker 1: these firefests and your and your like Coachella's like you can,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, like people were able
Speaker 1: to put themselves in the shoes. Was like, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: go off to uh, you know, nowhere a place to
Speaker 1: like see this cool festival. Oh no, but it goes
Speaker 1: it goes wrong. And I think women Summer Too just
Speaker 1: played on the ignorance of of other cultures, treating other
Speaker 1: cultures as the other. And I thought, of course it
Speaker 1: was a safe bet that they made that culture white,
Speaker 1: but it could have been any other and it was
Speaker 1: playing into this whole newness like they worship their trees
Speaker 1: like you know, like things like that was that was
Speaker 1: the beauty of it, which I'm glad, like, Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're going to do the culture is scary and kills people,
Speaker 1: you go ahead and make it away and I think
Speaker 1: that's what Scary Movie was playing onto, like where we
Speaker 1: were in pop culture where things where people were coming
Speaker 1: parodies of themselves almost. I mean that's kind of how
Speaker 1: it is now too, but it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: playing on that path that we were going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of the other pop culture things referenced The Titanic,
Speaker 1: which is so funny seeing that to Dawson's Creek up
Speaker 1: in the beginning. I love when they could get actual
Speaker 1: cameos by people. Um, the Budweiser was as that one.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so it's time. A nice little thing
Speaker 1: I noticed rewatching it is that the beer that he
Speaker 1: has says killer love it. I loved that they changed
Speaker 1: the Killer's mask. I think that they had to probably
Speaker 1: for a certain point. It's just for a copyright or
Speaker 1: whatever like, so the mask wasn't exact one from Scary
Speaker 1: move from Scream. Yeah, but then I loved how period
Speaker 1: ghost face periodically, like as he got high it would change,
Speaker 1: and like when he was scared he would it would change. Um.
Speaker 1: And then also The Blair, which was the other scary
Speaker 1: movie that they referenced as well, when she runs into
Speaker 1: the woods Gail's Storm, Gail hail store storm and my
Speaker 1: brothers and I used to always quote Officer Doofy reporting
Speaker 1: for duty. You would always quote that and then him
Speaker 1: like him with a vacuum. I can't like that. Well, also,
Speaker 1: like here's a here's a funny thing that I noticed
Speaker 1: they were really good at still, because I find that
Speaker 1: when people are doing comedy and parodies, they typically in
Speaker 1: a reason why a lot of these don't work is
Speaker 1: they don't treat it as a real movie where you
Speaker 1: have to leave bread crumbs and do this, and they
Speaker 1: truly did because the slightest bread crumb is if you
Speaker 1: pay attention to Doofi's underwear, they make his his um
Speaker 1: uh his uh, his his member. I guess we'll say
Speaker 1: to keep it clean long enough so that the scene, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you look at the size of his downstairs, it's
Speaker 1: long enough so that he would be able to do
Speaker 1: that scene. I was like, huh, that's a nice little
Speaker 1: note because I was thinking, I was like, why would
Speaker 1: it Why were like I was like, this seems like
Speaker 1: such a like subtle joke to make him like well endowed.
Speaker 1: And then that scene came and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, they just left that like unnecessary bread come
Speaker 1: of like yet no, he'd be able to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a plot I think that was like, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have those parody movie movies sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: like there's just a whole bunch of skits thrown in
Speaker 1: and some of the it or once We're kind of
Speaker 1: similar to that where it seemed like maybe they weren't
Speaker 1: as connected and conclusive. But this first movie, it really
Speaker 1: told a story like there was actually like there was
Speaker 1: some you know, one offs here and there, but it
Speaker 1: still played into the characters and what they were going through.
Speaker 1: So you actually were trying to figure out who is
Speaker 1: the killer and the twist that happened, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that is a twist, you know, it wasn't It was
Speaker 1: actually a plot, which is great. It makes it, you know,
Speaker 1: even better. Yeah. So the tagline for the movie's poster
Speaker 1: was no shame, no mercy, no sequel. And then when
Speaker 1: Scary Movie two was released a year later, that was
Speaker 1: something that was so fascinating to me. This came out
Speaker 1: in two thousand and they were able to shoot an
Speaker 1: entire other movie in a year and release that and
Speaker 1: the Scary Movie two came out in two thousand and one. Um.
Speaker 1: The tagline for that was we lied, which I love,
Speaker 1: also love that just wasn't addressed. Um. And we can
Speaker 1: hop into this when we moved in a scary movie
Speaker 1: two that they all died and then just like they
Speaker 1: were back just fine. Um it for some of the
Speaker 1: some of the male characters that I didn't care if
Speaker 1: they like killed off. I think one thing we definitely
Speaker 1: need to mention about the movie is that it was
Speaker 1: very successful. Like it did well. It was a hit.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the kids, everyone I knew was referencing
Speaker 1: it top to bottom, and it was it was like
Speaker 1: very vindicating for Keen and Ivory Waynes, who was forced
Speaker 1: to leave in Living Color by Fox who produced the show. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they decided to recut and air skits at random,
Speaker 1: and it brought down the resell value of the show
Speaker 1: which would have gone to keenan So they really did
Speaker 1: do that thing where they screwed over the creator. Oh
Speaker 1: and you could tell a d percent that he had
Speaker 1: his hands on this, him and his brothers, Like there
Speaker 1: was no way, in my opinion, that this movie would
Speaker 1: have come out the same if a white person had
Speaker 1: written it. It was just so many jokes talking about that,
Speaker 1: like exactly what we said about like what happens to
Speaker 1: black people in scary movies? And even just like so
Speaker 1: many of the pop culture references. UM. So I'm glad
Speaker 1: that it it has survived this like twenty years. I
Speaker 1: did want to say. The original title of Scary Movie
Speaker 1: was scream if you know what I did last Halloween. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they might have just gotten flagged by legal um
Speaker 1: and so they changed it to Scary Movie. It has
Speaker 1: on the Tomato Meter, a current score, an audience score.
Speaker 1: On Metacritic, it has a B minus. I also think
Speaker 1: it depends on who's reviewing it. Yeah, I mean definitely.
Speaker 1: This is one of those films where there's this specific
Speaker 1: style of comedy was going for and some people just
Speaker 1: aren't for aren't for against it, which is why, like
Speaker 1: I always will stand on that belief of like even if,
Speaker 1: like I think a great review on Rotten Tomato is
Speaker 1: fifty if if if if half people liked it, half didn't,
Speaker 1: I want to see it. I love, for example, one
Speaker 1: of the examples, I will always stand by his mother.
Speaker 1: A lot of people do not like it. I loved mother,
Speaker 1: and I think you should see it. To see how
Speaker 1: you feel about mother. Um, if you're not squeamish, there's
Speaker 1: a lot that goes on. Yeah, but yeah, so and
Speaker 1: I think of this especially. This was like in the nineties.
Speaker 1: There was this nineties time. I remember I used to
Speaker 1: for some reason torture myself and watch Ebert like give
Speaker 1: bad reviews to comedies and like scream at the television
Speaker 1: because I disagreed. Um. It's like it was like Twitter,
Speaker 1: except I didn't get to bug him. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: what a beautiful time that was critics. I used to
Speaker 1: actually stay out late um on and on the East
Speaker 1: Coast and watch um, Roger Ebert at the movies and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I came on like right after the eleven o'clock news
Speaker 1: because he was like, it's kind of he was very
Speaker 1: much my inspiration for getting into film and TV cript
Speaker 1: after I graduated uh college, And it was one of
Speaker 1: those things where when I first started, I would look
Speaker 1: at older movies and then see what he said, and
Speaker 1: if they lined up, I'm like, I'm on the right track.
Speaker 1: But of course he got it wrong. But one of
Speaker 1: the things I always take when it comes to looking
Speaker 1: at film like he did was that he tried to
Speaker 1: look at what it was trying to achieve and who
Speaker 1: it was for, you know, like he want to compare
Speaker 1: like Oscar bait movie to you know, the run of
Speaker 1: the Mill, like uh, comedy necessarily, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the same thing with scary movie. It was trying to
Speaker 1: achieve a parody and playing on that, and I think
Speaker 1: it achieved that. Like above and beyond, m smart, smart,
Speaker 1: smart critics brain right there. I like it, I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, because we had talked about Anna Farris, and um,
Speaker 1: this is Keenan said, the biggest surprise was on it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really a surprise, it was a gift, he said.
Speaker 1: I had seen everybody and I kept saying no, to
Speaker 1: the point that the casting people were getting pissed. But
Speaker 1: I was looking for someone specific. I remember the casting
Speaker 1: person saying I read a girl that I think is right,
Speaker 1: but she's never done anything before, and I was like, size, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: see I love that though. And her co star John Abrams,
Speaker 1: who played Bobby uh It said quote, Anna was just amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, to come in that green and to have
Speaker 1: that kind of comedic timing was bananas, which I agree.
Speaker 1: And of course everybody I was talking to my trainer
Speaker 1: about this this morning. He was like, man, that scene
Speaker 1: where she's doing it with him. I'm like, yes, we
Speaker 1: all remember the end of that scene. I think when
Speaker 1: I think of this movie, that's like the first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to the mine. Yeah, the first thing that
Speaker 1: comes to mind. Very guy. It's very like Jackass like
Speaker 1: pretash point, oh, very much like in that same you know,
Speaker 1: American pie vibe. Uh. And then one other thing that
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up before we move on to
Speaker 1: Scary Movie Too is Regina Hall. So she I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: her her movie theater scene is so funny to me, Like,
Speaker 1: I just love that. So she said when she was
Speaker 1: getting Brenda, when she was getting that roll down, she says, quote,
Speaker 1: I just remember watching Jada Pinkett Smith's scene and scream
Speaker 1: to trying to get how she collapsed when she dies
Speaker 1: in front of the audience. She said, I literally tried
Speaker 1: to die like Jada. Shechem that it was definitely she
Speaker 1: gave the last screen, which unfortunately I did laugh in
Speaker 1: the original, which yea. So it was like that it
Speaker 1: was so extra and I was like, that's great that
Speaker 1: Jada did it and Regina did it too. I know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that there's so many scenes like that where they get
Speaker 1: to recreate it and just have fun with it, and
Speaker 1: I truly just enjoyed it, Like that scene, the scene
Speaker 1: where she's doing the her talent for the beauty pageant
Speaker 1: and it and she's like screaming and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's good, that's good. Like it's just so like so
Speaker 1: fun because you just kind of remember those scenes and
Speaker 1: it is like when you're watching the scene, you have
Speaker 1: that suspension of disbelief in these movies and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But when someone gets to be like, okay, but that
Speaker 1: was kind of silly, right, and you feel kind of
Speaker 1: vindicated and get to laugh at it. It really did
Speaker 1: like capitalize on that. Joel are amazing producer and researcher,
Speaker 1: actually did make a list of all of the UM
Speaker 1: pop culture. So these are ones that I haven't mentioned yet,
Speaker 1: which is we talked about The Exorcist, but just yeah,
Speaker 1: that was in this one obviously, the second one becauseam
Speaker 1: which Carmen Electra mentions UM Election, the Shining Shakespeare in
Speaker 1: Love which was playing in the theater UM, Thelma and Louise,
Speaker 1: The Fugitive, Schindler's List, Boogie Nights Big Mama's House. Those
Speaker 1: are actually Brenda. When she's killed in the theater, she's
Speaker 1: killed by piste off movie goers, and she's like ruined
Speaker 1: all those movies for them. Here's my favorite thing, though,
Speaker 1: is because it's it's a misdirect joke, because everyone is like,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a movie that like relates to them,
Speaker 1: like there was a monk who was like film yes,
Speaker 1: and then it's a it's a pope who's like Big
Speaker 1: Mama's House. Uh goodness gracious, that one made me laugh
Speaker 1: because it was so ridiculous. U. Plus, I love a misdirect. Um.
Speaker 1: The sixth Cents, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, we said, the Matrix,
Speaker 1: you said, the Usual Suspects and Halloween, so I think
Speaker 1: we got all of them. Yeah that was all yeah,
Speaker 1: so fun. And I like that Marlon Waynes ends up
Speaker 1: dying even though he was a friend of the killer.
Speaker 1: Um that's because we did that screen us. Yeah that
Speaker 1: screen bit. I didn't realize back when I first watched
Speaker 1: it how they truly did mock the beats, like down
Speaker 1: to the dad being brought into it. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: makes you realize how like smart of a parody of
Speaker 1: this movie is even when he's doing UM and then
Speaker 1: during the credit scene where he's at the convenience store
Speaker 1: and he's like, now, this just like in the show,
Speaker 1: but in that one he's actually been making a grab
Speaker 1: and dash convenience store. So you think he's talking about
Speaker 1: how to survive a scary movie. It's like how to
Speaker 1: survive robbing somebody. We have scary movie too, which you know,
Speaker 1: I actually still liked it was you know, they did
Speaker 1: have a uh a second run UM because then who
Speaker 1: was the guy who played the small hand man. That's
Speaker 1: Chris Elliott. Oh my god, and he is so I
Speaker 1: literally wrote down and I put he is gross in
Speaker 1: like every role because he was also in UM, and
Speaker 1: uh there's something about Mary which he had like all
Speaker 1: the hives and stuff. And then uh, in Ship's Creek
Speaker 1: he's great, he plays the mayor, but he's also gross
Speaker 1: in Ship's Creek and it's just funny that he has
Speaker 1: like he plays that character so well. Yea, UM, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that was right when you're coming into scary
Speaker 1: movie too. They're obviously parodying The Exorcist. We had Andy
Speaker 1: Richter James Woods, who I was like, uh, Tim Curry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tim Curry was so great. Like I just I had
Speaker 1: the biggest crush on Tim Curry in Clue. And I
Speaker 1: love the fact that they took someone who's kind of
Speaker 1: who's been in this world, you know, being an it
Speaker 1: and like you got to play a part in like spoofing,
Speaker 1: helping to spoof this. My when you said that your
Speaker 1: scary movie when you were little was Nightmare on Elm Street.
Speaker 1: Mine was House on Haunted Hill. It was the remake
Speaker 1: one because that's like what they would show. I think
Speaker 1: my parents had like Stars or HBO or something, and
Speaker 1: that's what they would show. And that was also kind
Speaker 1: of like the vibe here with like getting them all
Speaker 1: to come to this mansion and spend the night. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I love that he was in it. We
Speaker 1: also had David Cross. Yeah. It was super funny. Um.
Speaker 1: And of course On Affairs came back, Regina Hall came back.
Speaker 1: They replaced Buffy yeah, and the and then they had
Speaker 1: one of the Masterson's, yeah, the brother. Also you know
Speaker 1: you could tell his way back because James Woods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was said, yeah, And I was like, uh, sorry,
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying that in the when you
Speaker 1: said Chris Elliott, but you said James Wood. I was like,
Speaker 1: why are you being so mean? And Chris Ellie, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just miss her. I know this is when he
Speaker 1: was cool, back when he was Hades. Yeah in Hercules. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's so crazy is that I read that
Speaker 1: and I kind of mourned the fact that he wasn't
Speaker 1: able to do it. But Marlon Brando was actually supposed
Speaker 1: to play the part that James would did. He was
Speaker 1: in his twilight of course, and like so he wanted
Speaker 1: to do it though, but by that time he was
Speaker 1: getting fed when he was always getting fed his line
Speaker 1: in some regards, once he got kind of older, he's
Speaker 1: getting fed his lines. He was on an oxygen matth
Speaker 1: and he was trying to push through. They just said
Speaker 1: we can't. We gotta let this go, like we can't
Speaker 1: put it. But I would have, really, I would have
Speaker 1: loved that had Marlon Brando, yeah, played that part. I
Speaker 1: just and I was like, jas would but because it
Speaker 1: would have been so great had Marlon Brando played that.
Speaker 1: And we have to talk about the Exorcist girl. Do
Speaker 1: you know who that is? If he that Russian doll
Speaker 1: and Natasha Leone. What oh man, that is a woman
Speaker 1: after my own heart. Yeah, it was like I love
Speaker 1: a boss, I love red hair. Well, she was in
Speaker 1: American Pie, she was in some of the right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was in some of these um movies that they're parodying.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny thinking of her and also a
Speaker 1: Gina Hall that they've been like working actors for like
Speaker 1: twenty plus years, like successfully, That to me is also wild.
Speaker 1: One thing that I wanted to point out pop culture wise,
Speaker 1: is they all of a sudden in the middle of
Speaker 1: the movie and you could tell. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so of this time they stopped to like
Speaker 1: parody the Nike out. That's that's actually one of my
Speaker 1: favorite really, it's like, that's why I remember this. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this conversion. If you don't know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, we'll put it in like the footnotes. But
Speaker 1: if you're you know, older than Niffy and I and
Speaker 1: don't remember this, if you google Nike basketball ad is
Speaker 1: the first thing that comes up on YouTube still to
Speaker 1: this day, kind of twenty years later. Um, what about you?
Speaker 1: If he what points like stood out for you? Oh? Well,
Speaker 1: the point that's still solid is just when the person
Speaker 1: is falling and uh, grab my head is like use
Speaker 1: the with him with the food. I mean, I forget that.
Speaker 1: See my brothers and I used to do that to
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, yeah, it's so funny to like my jams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my jams. It was such a long gag too. And
Speaker 1: that was the thing. I think that's what really made
Speaker 1: a hit so hard is that it went so long
Speaker 1: with how he did the turkey, how he didn't. I
Speaker 1: was like that scene was like one of probably one
Speaker 1: of the longest scenes in that sequel, and it just
Speaker 1: was so funny. Yeah, that was the that was That's
Speaker 1: the thing, is like you really do like a slow
Speaker 1: burn of a joke where it's like you're just seeing
Speaker 1: it and you're just getting everyone's reaction, and then he
Speaker 1: messes it up so great. Uh. I would be remiss
Speaker 1: without pointing out Tori Spelling. And it was funny that
Speaker 1: she was in this and she's also a teen queen.
Speaker 1: Was a teen queen, um, and I love the takes.
Speaker 1: So they were copying Poulter Guys. Well, they copied Poulter
Speaker 1: Guist in many things, but um, the scene with Poulter
Speaker 1: guyst with the mom being pulled up like the wall
Speaker 1: in her panties, but her like actually enjoying it and
Speaker 1: wanting to lock this guy down and him piecing out
Speaker 1: I thought was really funny. Um, the clown is also
Speaker 1: from Poulter guyst that whole scene. So they had Amityville Horror.
Speaker 1: We obviously mentioned the Exorcist, the Haunting, which I remember
Speaker 1: from the nineties, Um, Changeling, hollow Man, Hannibal, the Legend
Speaker 1: of hell House, and like I said, House on Haunted Hill. Um.
Speaker 1: So for this, the budget was forty million. It grossed
Speaker 1: one one point two million worldwide. The consensus, unfortunately on
Speaker 1: Rotten to Itatos is quote a sloppy, rushed out product.
Speaker 1: It was fascinating watching these compared to the originals because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they got to cut the budget
Speaker 1: by like just the filming was so different that I
Speaker 1: was like, it's really great that they were able to,
Speaker 1: especially with the first one, Like makes so much money
Speaker 1: on something that is so low budget. Yeah, Well, it's
Speaker 1: It's funny because if you ask the Wayne brothers, they
Speaker 1: actually admit that it was rushed to, Like interviews afterwards,
Speaker 1: you know, they're just kind of like, well, they wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, things like they wanted a sequel, we weren't
Speaker 1: even supposed to have one, and they wanted it quick,
Speaker 1: and they pretty much they felt like they didn't have
Speaker 1: enough time to put together like a really you know,
Speaker 1: a cohesist. And you notice it too because in the sequel,
Speaker 1: I mean, it just feels a little smaller too, I
Speaker 1: guess because in the first one they were in the town,
Speaker 1: you had all these different characters popping in and out,
Speaker 1: and then this one they kind of secluded them in
Speaker 1: a house, which is of course the haunted house kind
Speaker 1: of trope, which is probably why it's not my favorite
Speaker 1: subgenre of horror, because I like it when it's a
Speaker 1: little bit larger light. But um, you could tell, like
Speaker 1: I felt like in the first one it was a
Speaker 1: bit more like cohesive with the plot but also really
Speaker 1: playing on all types of things, and I felt like
Speaker 1: this one was a little bit more slapstick. You know,
Speaker 1: there are a lot more gags in this well, yeah,
Speaker 1: like that was the thing kind of seeing them both
Speaker 1: is the first one obviously is like this kind of
Speaker 1: almost love letter to these horror films and really trying
Speaker 1: to create this plot around the idea of a parody,
Speaker 1: and this one really seemed like I was like, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna try and be funny, Like we're gonna be funny.
Speaker 1: It's you know, we've done the the artful love letter.
Speaker 1: Now how many funny gags can we fit in? And
Speaker 1: references and we start to like lean back into almost
Speaker 1: getting into scary um like parody territory where it's not
Speaker 1: as good. And I think three is where it leans
Speaker 1: back even more. And then after three, so we talk
Speaker 1: about the ones that I don't don't Yes, so there
Speaker 1: were four seat goals. I forgot to mention that the
Speaker 1: first Scary Movie had a nineteen million dollar budget and
Speaker 1: gross two eight million, so they had a really good return.
Speaker 1: And another thing I forgot to mention is that On
Speaker 1: Affairs is not even on the cover because again she
Speaker 1: wasn't seen as a star. Uh so I had the
Speaker 1: Wayne's Brothers that had has Shannon, Elizabeth, Carmen, Electra and
Speaker 1: then the guy who played like a fourty year old.
Speaker 1: We have to take a really quick break and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna hop into the future of scary movie right
Speaker 1: after this and we're back. Welcome back. Everyone still talking
Speaker 1: about the Scary Movie franchise. Yeah, so you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about scary movie to three, we can kind of
Speaker 1: glance through because, like I said, as as we go
Speaker 1: forward down the scary movies, they get, um they get
Speaker 1: less scary. Yeah. Well, it's so interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm on Keenan Ivory. Wayne's looking at his like producing
Speaker 1: writing credits and like it stops after two. So we
Speaker 1: should have mentioned that he for the first one was
Speaker 1: the highest. He had the highest opening weekend for a
Speaker 1: black director. Yeah, making history, Yeah, groundbreak. I mean I I,
Speaker 1: of course, obviously as a writer and actor, I have
Speaker 1: so many deep thoughts on black movie theories. And it's
Speaker 1: literally how I was able to There was a podcast
Speaker 1: called um what is it called the Fantasy Flicks League
Speaker 1: that they doubted me and then I was right, which
Speaker 1: was they asked me to guess the opening weekend for
Speaker 1: um US and I guessed I believe it was either
Speaker 1: uh forty or fifty million, and they're like, what for
Speaker 1: horror and all this. I was like, well, look, you
Speaker 1: got the guaranteed twenty for a black movie. You bump
Speaker 1: it up to thirty because it's a good black movie,
Speaker 1: and you get the other twenty for the other people
Speaker 1: who actually want to see a black director, and what
Speaker 1: does that's fifty fifty mill And let me see what
Speaker 1: what did us opening weekend? Box office got opening they
Speaker 1: had seventy one million, so so they well over my guests.
Speaker 1: But I just knew he got the guaranteed. So anyway,
Speaker 1: just to truncate this whole segment is I put a
Speaker 1: lot of thought into, um, just that theory, and I
Speaker 1: like that he made history. Uh but yeah, after that
Speaker 1: Scary Movie three, he's not there. He went on to
Speaker 1: make another banger, which I haven't I haven't rewatched, but
Speaker 1: I probably should. White Chicks, Yeah, Little Man, which people
Speaker 1: didn't like, but I actually kind of liked it. Um.
Speaker 1: And then uh so so Scary Movie three, Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so Scary Movie three and four were both directed by
Speaker 1: David zucker So. He is the director and writer of
Speaker 1: Airplane Film. He also was the creator of the Naked
Speaker 1: Gun franchise. Is so he definitely lives in parody world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but to revisit kind of um, something that was said earlier.
Speaker 1: When the Fox decided to stop uh Living Color and
Speaker 1: recut and release it, one of Keenan was quoted as
Speaker 1: saying that there was it was it didn't work because
Speaker 1: it was an African American product made for African Americans
Speaker 1: and you had these like white guys trying to figure
Speaker 1: that out and that they lost that, which is why
Speaker 1: it did worse. I do believe the Scary Movie franchise
Speaker 1: is for everyone, but at its core it had black creators,
Speaker 1: and you I think as a creator, you put yourself
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, and so when you have that at
Speaker 1: your foundation, that that flavor is going to be looked
Speaker 1: for in subsequent movies. And you know, this director is
Speaker 1: the goat, Airplane Goat, naked gun Goat, but you you
Speaker 1: don't have the flavor, you know, like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: expect you know, uh, even Scorsese himself to be able
Speaker 1: to do a reboot of Uh, Don't be a Medicine
Speaker 1: South Central and it be good. You know. That's why
Speaker 1: it's so funny to see, Uh, not to sound like
Speaker 1: a snob, but it's so funny to see like directors
Speaker 1: who are popping now and people go, oh, he should
Speaker 1: direct this, he should go direct like so many people
Speaker 1: are like Taka wat t teachers addressed. I was like, no, takeo.
Speaker 1: Watt is an amazing director. But there are certain things
Speaker 1: that he crushes at, and that's what he should direct.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't, yeah, exactly, because everyone has a style. It's
Speaker 1: just like music, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: want to listen to Savage do at Tayman Paula song
Speaker 1: and yeah almost fellow in my chair. But you're so right.
Speaker 1: How did you say something so controversial? Ye's so right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, so uh And I think that's why it
Speaker 1: kind of like fell off, is it? It's moving forward
Speaker 1: with an amazing you know, parody artist, but it's it
Speaker 1: lost the flavor. But three still was the last one
Speaker 1: I did in Enjoy because you had Anthony Anderson in
Speaker 1: there and he was actually showed up. Yeah early early
Speaker 1: heart Yeah like before he's in his bag. He's in
Speaker 1: his bag now. But Anthony Anderson and he had um
Speaker 1: those bad dreads because they were making fun of McKay
Speaker 1: fiber's dreads. Yeah, it was so good. Um uh. In
Speaker 1: in an Affairs is still in this one too, and
Speaker 1: Regina Hall, which is also because I think it's for
Speaker 1: they're not in it, right, she's in it. I think
Speaker 1: the fifth one is the one where no one from
Speaker 1: the Origina, which makes the most sense. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to see this. I had read that they had
Speaker 1: actually asked the Wayne brothers to come back for the
Speaker 1: fifth one, but they turned them down, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have to do you know. It's
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like an artist thing, right,
Speaker 1: It's like what you decided to go ahead with three
Speaker 1: and four without us, and now you want us to
Speaker 1: come back to you. Yeah, but this one is making
Speaker 1: fun of the Ring Signs Matrix Reloaded and eight Mile,
Speaker 1: so already you know, it's it's interesting because it's it's
Speaker 1: following the Ring plot, which once again, this could probably
Speaker 1: be a great movie if they just honestly followed, like
Speaker 1: in the same way in the first one where they
Speaker 1: create their own plot that surrounds that kind of surrounds
Speaker 1: this parallel world of it. But it really is like
Speaker 1: attacking it, for lack of a better word, word of
Speaker 1: just like we're gonna make fun of it and not
Speaker 1: we're gonna essentially honor it. Yeah, real life people they
Speaker 1: had in this, Simon cow Eminem, Michael Jackson, and Pamela Anderson,
Speaker 1: so they were still pulling yeah people, Oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: I think it was still still you know, like still popping.
Speaker 1: I went and saw it. Scary Movie four came out
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. I will just say I
Speaker 1: wanted to point out um one of the writers on
Speaker 1: both of those three and four was Craig Mazin, who
Speaker 1: does Chernobyl on HBO. So to me, it's really funny
Speaker 1: go anytime. It reminds me of the Russo Brothers, who
Speaker 1: did one of my favorite movies that I watched just
Speaker 1: because it's dumb. Is you mean dupri and they did that,
Speaker 1: And so I always think it's funny when you go
Speaker 1: on to do something like huge, but like you look
Speaker 1: back at your stuff and it was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: wrote a scary movie three and four? Okay, okay, sir, okay.
Speaker 1: So and then there was five mm actually kids that
Speaker 1: was in five really okay. I haven't seen it still.
Speaker 1: I did not watch it for this podcast. Yeah you're like,
Speaker 1: I won't put myself through that. Nope, nope. So but
Speaker 1: but now we're we have some rumblings Lantern Entertainment is
Speaker 1: thinking of rebooting the Scary Movie franchise. According to the
Speaker 1: geek Nerd Nation. Uh So, my only advice to Lantern
Speaker 1: Entertainment is like kind of know what made one great,
Speaker 1: you know, like I wouldn't naturally be like, you gotta
Speaker 1: get the Waynes brothers, but honestly, I don't. I think
Speaker 1: you can do it without them, And I think they're
Speaker 1: past this, they don't want to revisit this, but just
Speaker 1: really just knowing what although Marlin did a haunted house,
Speaker 1: oh that's true. So I don't know. I think he's
Speaker 1: still in. I think he's still down. Yeah that you
Speaker 1: can also watch all not all of these, but you
Speaker 1: can watch that on on Netflix. And I watched one
Speaker 1: and two last night on Netflix. Um, sorry to me
Speaker 1: to cut you off, but yeah, so I think they
Speaker 1: might actually be That would be nice. It would be
Speaker 1: a nice touch, even if it is just like if
Speaker 1: they're doing a whole franchise to pass the torch, just
Speaker 1: have it off. I think it's a right time for
Speaker 1: it too, though we've seen I mean, there's the whole
Speaker 1: bit of like elevated quote unquote elevated horror and what
Speaker 1: that means, and you just had a resurgence of the
Speaker 1: horror genre for one, but also just kind of getting
Speaker 1: into the mainstream of you know us and of course
Speaker 1: get Out and Hereditary and Midsummer others and other films
Speaker 1: around that. So I think it would be it would
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they parodied I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole conjuring universe right for oh man, I just you
Speaker 1: saying that just made it makes sense in my head.
Speaker 1: Is if they just kind of do attack like the
Speaker 1: elevate the idea of an elevated or like. I think
Speaker 1: that though they could, because you know, the scary movies
Speaker 1: they made fun of, like the teen genre too, so
Speaker 1: I think this one could make fun of the superhero genre.
Speaker 1: I think that people have been waiting to do that.
Speaker 1: Uh so I feel like that could also be like
Speaker 1: just a lot of the tropes that we still see
Speaker 1: you with them. Um yeah, all right, Well wasn't there
Speaker 1: a Superhero parody? Oh yeah, Superhero movie? But I mean
Speaker 1: that was technically done way too early. Here's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean something that people will actually watch, okay,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if anyone saw. Yeah, let's say
Speaker 1: Superhero movie that was also two eight done by Craig too,
Speaker 1: because we've had so many superhero Superhero movies were different
Speaker 1: back then, so I feel like they were almost parodying different,
Speaker 1: like different, they're not paring the Marvel and d C
Speaker 1: of today, So but they should. Gosh. I love that
Speaker 1: they did it in the style of the scary movie
Speaker 1: like seeing where they're all in the movie seats and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh man, well I think we have to
Speaker 1: wrap up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chauncey. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Um well? A lot of all of my um film
Speaker 1: and TV criticisms can be found around Tomatoes, also the
Speaker 1: international publication People's World, and also on my YouTube channel
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Speaker 1: give a shout out to some of the sources that
Speaker 1: we used today on the podcast. Would be Adam K.
Speaker 1: Raymond who's at Vulture, Roger Eber dot com, Entertainment Weekly
Speaker 1: articles by Shirley Lee, Alan Carter, and Rebecca Rebecca Asher Walsh.
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