WEBVTT - Ep. 104: Elk Season Check-In 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.160 And we're back with another episode of Cutting the Distance podcast. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.960 I'm Dirk Durham and today I've got a couple of 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.239 cool guests on here, my hunting buddies, Cody Wilson and 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.960 Bradley Demmerman. Thanks for coming on the show today, guys. Yeah, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:27.080 thanks for having us, Dirk. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:28.280 Yep, thanks Dirk. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.320 This Uh, this episode is basically going to be kind 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:32.600 of a mid season update. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:33.320 Uh. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.960 We're at Elk Camp and uh, actually we're in town 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.360 by Oak Camp. We came into town to get some 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.200 more ice and and get a get a burger. We've 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.560 been on the mountain for a few days and uh, 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.559 you know, a season for us down here has kind 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.320 of started. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:49.760 Off with a bang. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.319 We were backpacked in and we've been in there. How 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.200 how many days were we in there? Days? I think five, 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.040 wasn't it four or five? 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.400 Four or five? That's what I just said. Four or 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:04.559 five is what I was thinking. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:09.360 Yeah, and I think we've been into Elk and Herd 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.880 Bugles and Chase Bugles every single day and had some 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.080 really close calls. Now, this kind of country we're hunting 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.720 is a little bit different than we're normally used to. Now, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.920 probably Cody you probably get to hunt some kind of 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.399 open type country being you're a woman guy. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.520 Yeah, I mean it's very similar. It's not this open 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.000 per se, but a lot a lot of similarities. Good pockets, 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.560 a timber and then you got some sagebrush, ridges and 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.760 draws and stuff like that. But pretty similar, just a 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:37.720 little less open. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.720 Yeah. Yeah, I know, Bradley, were you you hunt and guide, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.840 then it's a lot like the country I kind of 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.920 cut my teeth on hunting and lots of brush. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.320 Yeah yeah, I mean where I hunt, it's like you 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.360 can have a forty yard pin on there, but you'll 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.000 never use it. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.200 Yeah, okidding, right, less for some weird reason, you catch 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:05.160 one standing a clear cut, which don't happen too often now. Yeah. So, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.160 uh so the three of us are hunting, We have tags, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.640 we got cameraman Dusty follow us around capturing it all 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.880 on film. So you guys will be able to see 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.040 this show on on the YouTube's here at some point 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.480 on probably next year, after the first of the year. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.480 So so far, so good. Like we none of us 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.200 have really hunted elk together before. Bradley and I have 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.120 hunted bears and mountain lions. Cody and I have hunted 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.880 bears together, but never elk. How do you think it's 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.480 going guys. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.519 I think it's going great. I mean, first day it 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.080 was the first time i'd, like Dirk said, I'd hunted 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.720 elk with him, and he is. He's good at what 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.959 he does. He had a bowl in my lap. He 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.680 had a bowl in my lap the first morning, and 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.799 I messed it up. But you know that's archery el cutting. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.160 And you actually called two bulls in already or the 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.040 first day. One came in so islent. If I would 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.400 have stayed put there, who knows what would have happened. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.160 But you know, my A d D. I kind of 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.880 slipped down the hill a little bit. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:12.840 But the other bull come in, and uh, I was 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.600 really what I was really you know they call you 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.239 the bugler, but I'm really impressed with your cow talks. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.560 Really, yeah, you think they're good, They're awesome. That's my 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.639 biggest I feel like that's my biggest weakness. I'm my 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:25.640 cow calls suck. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.680 I'm embarrassed to blow my cow talk all you guys. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.640 Codes are codis are great, but uh, these elk there, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.320 we've been We've had some really close calls in the 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.320 last five days and uh, but they've made us work 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:46.640 for it where it's not easy train and they're they're 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.320 definitely educated. You know, we're seeing hunters and these bulls 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.640 have been hunted a lot, you can tell. And uh, 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.520 we're just getting right there, but we haven't quite put 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.280 it together yet. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.920 But we've got quite a few more days, so I 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:02.040 know it's gonna happen. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.440 Oh yeah, we got time. Yeah. Yeah. On that first 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.960 calling set up we did you there was a bullet 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.560 came in that was bugling, so you you snuck down 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.720 there and got it right on him. And then another 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.320 one snuck in quiet that didn't bugle at all, and 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.800 he came in and almost right to Cody, kind of 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.880 in between where you guys first initially set up, and 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.320 then he kind of come in there and got got 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:31.880 we got a senate or something. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.040 I think he caught my wind because I was up 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.760 above you guys, and I think he just got past 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.800 me and slipped by me without me seeing, and I 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.160 think he just caught my win and took off. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.919 Spooked out of there. Yeah, and then later that is 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.800 that the same day, then we got on another big 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.760 six point same day had a big six point just 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.320 ripping bugles and and our motive operation. Since it's such 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.960 open country and and and all. Then we've kind of 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.120 like tried to keep the color like the color back 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.080 a ways and not put too much pressure on the 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.800 bowl and keep them talking and let the shooters like 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.880 snak sneak in, slip in and get close and let 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.159 you know. If the bull comes, great, If not, then 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.040 you're you're getting getting get into position and get a 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.040 narrow into him. But that was a nice bowl. He 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.279 kind of gave you the run around there for a bit. Yeah, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:22.080 he did, you know. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.240 He piped off when we were headed down the hill, 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:30.159 and me and Dusty slipped up and I caught a 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:34.159 glimpse of him through the trees moving and so he 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.240 kind of went underneath the little ridge line there, and 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.440 I knew we could get closer, so me and Dusty 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.159 slipped up more. And when I got up there, he 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.920 bugled again. But when I popped over the hill to look, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.679 he was down there with his head in a tree, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:56.359 just getting after raking, and I I just motioned to 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.400 Dusty like let's go. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.240 And if he stayed that. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.560 Tree, you know, I could slip up there and put 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.719 an arrow in him pretty easy, but as it being 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.800 what it was, you know, he popped his head out 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.840 and looked up, and I don't know of I'm sure 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.640 he had cows down below, because he popped his head 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.200 out of there and then looked down the hill, and 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.920 he went down the hill after him. And then boy, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.360 you guys slipped up and I think you yelled at him, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:29.360 screamed at him. Yeah, and no, sooner than being dust, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.240 he'd get around them trees. All I seen was antler 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.279 tips just coming over the hill. And by the time 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.080 I got clear of the trees where I could shoot, 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:38.200 he was almost there. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:38.800 I just hit my. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.760 Knees and drew my bow and he'd come up there 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.159 frontal and all I could see was like from his 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:48.480 brisket up and I just wasn't comfortable taking that shot 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.200 at sixty I don't know, it might have been sixty 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:51.919 five sixty. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.320 I didn't have a chance to range it. But it's 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.599 a long shot from them. Yeah, yeah, even at broadside 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.919 for most people, that's a pretty long shot. So yeah, no, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.800 you did the right thing. It's kind of hard, you know. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.520 You guy gets in that situation, You're like, oh man, 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:07.280 it's a beautiful bul. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:07.719 I want to. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.040 I think I can do it, but man, that's a 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.720 that's a poke, especially for frontal. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.000 Yeah, it's just not a shot that I'm comfortable taking. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.840 I mean, I would rather not take that shot than 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.720 boon that bowl. And you know, just have that all 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:24.400 my conscience. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.160 Yeah, well, you never know, and you know he may 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:28.760 move off and you may be able to get back 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.240 in a position to shoot him at twenty yards. It's 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.920 you have so many I've had so many times where 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:38.760 I've passed marginal or poor shots to where then another 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.120 one that was a chip shot was presented to me. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.320 So no, it's it's okay to pass him up. And 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.600 sometimes you're just like, dang it, I really wish I 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.920 would have got that bull. Maybe I should have shot. 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.119 But if it goes bad, then you have to carry 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.880 that monkey around on your back for a while, and 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.360 that that gets in your head and your next shot 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.200 might be bad. And it's it's hard, it's really hard. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.240 So Well was fired up. You know, he was screaming. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.520 He wasn't silent, right, he was yelling back at us. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.800 And you know when a bull's fired up like that, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.040 I just feel like, you know, if you just wait 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.480 just get that good shot. You know, if he's fired 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.080 up like that, I feel like the chances of having 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.240 that opportunity or higher, you know. 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.280 Yeah, what do you guys think about the weather here? 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:23.280 How's the weather been? 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:25.880 Well, we got snowed on dr. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.120 Man, We've seen it all. We've seen beautiful bluebird days. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:38.920 We've seen rain, saturating rain, we've seen snow and fog. Again, 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.000 we're on another bowl that was bugling pretty good the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.120 other day the other morning and the fog Cody got 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.520 got up there in position, and man, I thought for 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.800 sure we're gonna get this bowl. And then it starts 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.640 snowing and sleeping, and the fog was thick as peace suit. Man, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.520 you couldn't see sixty yards. And I'm like, this is 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.960 gonna happen, This is gonna happen today. And it's just 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.280 those slippery old bulls just slipped through your fingertips. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.040 Sometimes, yes, they do. Yeah, I think. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.680 What the first three days we were here, it rained 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:13.520 all night, every night, every night, and yeah, yeah, I 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.400 think the third day we went up on the mountain anyways, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.800 even though it was foggy and rainy, and got up well, 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.880 that's when we chased that bull, and we thought it 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.360 was going to happen, and I thought it was too 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.920 because being dusty were I bet that bowl wasn't sixty 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.560 eighty yards three different times and then one time we 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.800 had him, he couldn't have been forty Yeah, I mean 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:33.520 he was close. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.120 Yeah, but. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.559 Yeah, I mean the weather's been. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.040 So hit and miss, but hopefully it cleared off today 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.680 and it's been nice and hopefully we get three or 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:46.720 four good days like this. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.400 Yeah. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.600 Yeah, what do you guys think? You know? 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.240 What I thought's odd down here where we're hunting is 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.520 what is it the twentieth of September? Yeah, yep, sure is. Yeah, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.400 So what do you guys think about the like these 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.240 satellite bulls we're seeing, you know, just feeding by themselves, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.600 And is that strange to you or is that just 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:10.240 I mean, I feel like. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:12.800 I just feel like that. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.640 There was a rut fest before we got here in 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.200 the and the bulls are kind of this, you know, 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.360 the five points in the rag horn. The little rag 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.280 horns are kind of timid and they're not really interested. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:25.680 You know. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.720 Most of the bulls we chase, besides the two you 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.440 called in, have been the herd bulls. Yeah, yeah, and 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.240 that's kind of really the only action I feel like 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.040 we've had as far as calling. But the you know, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.880 we seen those bulls last night, those little rag horns 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.240 just feeding and bugle at them, and they wouldn't even 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:41.760 lift their. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:42.440 Head, you know. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.640 Yeah, that's so weird. And my my buddy Corey Miller, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.840 which been on the podcast before, he's hunted this area 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.000 before a couple of years ago. He said, yeah, it 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.680 was the it was September twentieth and he's seen two 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.680 five points just feeding side to side on a hillside 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.520 and he'd bugled him. The wouldn't lift their head. And 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.079 so I don't know if it's the if they man 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.560 really established some pecking order and get kicked them little 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.600 balls out and they know better than to come towards 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.439 the bulls that are bugling, or if they just haven't 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.360 felt their oats yet or smelled the you know, smell 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.720 the cow and heat, or I don't know what the 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.560 deal is the right answer is to that, that's kind 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.959 of it's kind of weird. But for the big bulls, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.240 they're acting pretty ready, you know when you get on them. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.920 Yesterday I had the opportunity to get really close to 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.400 a big bull, and he only bugled once, maybe when 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.960 when you were relocate him. It's like, so we set 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.360 up and I started Dusty and I started walking to 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.880 him where It's like, okay, he sounded like he was 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.280 up here. We'll just walk that way and surely he'll 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.600 pipe off a few more times. Bradley'll keep him talking 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.000 and we'll just slide in there. And then he just 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.040 kind of went quiet, and so me and Dusty got 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.520 up there. I think I feel like we sat there 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.520 for twenty minutes, maybe at least or or or better. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:08.120 And and no, not a peep, not a sound from 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.320 the bowl. But then Dusty said, did you hear that? 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.200 I'm like, I thought I heard something, but I thought 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.680 it might be a little bird or something, but it 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.000 just went Mick. It wasn't me, it was just ah. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.200 And then I heard it again. I'm like, I don't 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.400 know if that's an elk or not. But I thought, well, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.800 maybe we should all move up. So I thought, well, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.040 I'm gonna I'm gonna bugle here and see how far 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.160 off in the distance. Maybe that thing's moved around the 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.360 hillside and I'm in a little better position to cast 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.640 my bugle than Bradley was because you were faded back 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.120 there quite a ways. Maybe he's just not hearing you. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.640 So I ripped a bugle and bam, he bugled right there. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.280 He was probably yeah, like eighty yards away. I was like, 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.280 holy cow, they're right here. As soon as I bugled. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.559 Then I started seeing elk and I could see a 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.520 cow or two and they started filtering over towards us, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.840 but down low, out of sight. We couldn't really see him. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.120 But then I seen that bull moving around back there. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:11.080 I'm like, oh man, and he started bugling a little 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.280 bit more. For whatever reason, he would Bradley would would 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:19.000 call and he wouldn't talk, and then Cody he split off. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.000 So we made kind of a triangle. And so Cody 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.800 would call, Bradley would call, and he wouldn't answer either 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.800 one of you guys, but he would answer me. And 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.440 I don't know if it's because I was so much 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.000 closer that he felt like I was a threat, like 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.120 I was. I was close to his cows, and he 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.440 was like, I'll bugle at you because you're in my 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:42.400 in my zone or whatever. But man, he got at first, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.319 and it was he had such a weird bugle, as 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.959 like he was. He kind of kind of got us there. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.520 I kind of was thought on, this thing's like a 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.720 little five point and he had kind of a squeaky 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:55.720 bugle and these really crappy chuckles, just the just really 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.320 bad chuckles. 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:01.559 And those chuckles, yeah, they I went and told Cody, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.000 I said, I think that's a guy. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.679 Yeah, had that conversation, like we met up and he's like, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.920 that's a guy, and I'm like, but right after that, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.400 we were still together and talking and that bull lit Buldon, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.719 I'm like, that's a b Yeah. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.840 Yeah. He was giving us those real whimpy, shitty bugles 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.640 and chuckles, and then he let one rip a big, grally, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.960 wheezy aggressive bugle. It's like, oh yeah, And I thought 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.440 that might be a good bull. And then I seen 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.800 him and I'm just like, holy cow, he's a really 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.600 good bull, like trophy and just about anybody's eyes. He's 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.960 just a really big, beautiful bull. And man, that thing 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.640 he would be kind of paces back and forth, and 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.160 I didn't want to. I was kind of exposed. I 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.560 wasn't a good place to be calling from. But then 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.280 then I could his cows were coming towards me more 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.960 and more and I'm like, I'm gonna be The cows 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.520 are gonna pop up any second, and I'm gonna be pegged. 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.120 So I'm gonna just challenge him for these cows right here, 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.640 right now and see what happens. And I did, and 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.760 probably within about three or four bugles here he came. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.440 And I'm like, oh, Dusty, here he comes, and man, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.480 what a what a beast man. He had a huge body, 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.320 huge neck, he just he was just coming in straight on. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.200 I'm like, well, he's just walking along. I'm like, all right, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.120 if he gets to those trees right there, that'll be sixty, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.920 and then he gets in front of him, be fifty five. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.640 And if he gets it around fifty to fifty five broadside, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.640 and you know, everything's good. He's not watching and not 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.680 looking at me, I might just send an arrow. Well, 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.520 he got to about sixty and stopped. He's seen us. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.240 He looked and seen us. We were just out in 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:45.640 the middle, and we had a lot of sun on 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.720 us too. At that by then the sun had come 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.120 up and was like was shining off the one side 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.280 of us. So we stood out like a like a beacon, right, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.360 and he turned around and left as soon as he 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.440 turned around. I screamed at him, and he like stopped 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.400 and stutter stepped and turned back around. But I wasn't 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.320 quick enough with getting my bugle tube down, so I 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.200 had to hold it free spring, you know, out the 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.440 side of my mouth here. And he stared us down 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.480 for a while and then turned again, and I screamed 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.480 at him again, and he looked back, and we did 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:20.040 this two or three times and then then he's just like, eh, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.040 you're not a threat. So he just kind of walked 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.120 back in behind the scenes, right, he kind of just 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.840 kind of disappeared right about that time. Out pops the cows. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.480 Here comes one, here comes another. We had like five 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.240 cows right right there in front of us at anyway, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.200 I don't know, fifteen to twenty yards maybe probably maybe 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.480 even less than that, and they would kind of graze 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.800 and they'd look up and look look up at us, 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.880 chewing their chewing their grass, and then like put their 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.040 head down, and I'm like, I don't know how these 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.200 cows are and just not turn it inside out? How 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.520 are we not done for? You know, cows are usually 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.160 the smartest, you know, they're really looking for the things 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.520 that are out of place. But then Finally, after a while, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.800 one of them pegged this and then they spooked, and 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.119 I screamed at him like, okay, here's my chance. As 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.560 they run off, that bull's gonna boil out of there, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.680 especially since I screamed he's gonna boil out of there. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.960 He's gonna run out to that little spot that's about 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.000 fifty to fifty five yards and I'm gonna get him. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.399 And he ran out there right by those cows. But 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.080 I had a great big limb on a fir tree 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.200 that was covering his whole body. There was no shot whatsoever. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.959 I'm just like doug on it away he goes. They 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.120 all take off, So I'm like, well, if I can 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.280 dog them and if I can push them, he may 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.120 just push those cows off and turn around to fight, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.200 so which I've done this a lot. So Dusty and 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.359 I just are double timing towards him, and we'd scream 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.639 and he'd scream and we'd get close, and then the 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.160 next time he'd scream, he'd be about another one hundred 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.080 and fifty yards, so we'd go at him again. I'm like, 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.159 we're gonna catch him, or he's gonna catch us. We're 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.520 gonna probably slip through one of these openings. He'd be 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.400 standing there looking at us. But then finally, the last 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.000 time I heard him, you was quite a ways away. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.080 It's like, no, he's getting the heck out of dodge 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.800 with these with these ladies. He's not no, he don't 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.280 want to fight. He's just gonna gonna push him off. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.600 So but that was a pretty close encounter, dang it. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:11.639 It was really close. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.760 And man, dude, when you find a runner where we're hunting, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:15.840 they run. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.399 They run. Yeah. Yeah. And then last night again we 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.920 had we got on one of we walked stepped down 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.680 that bowl. We called and he was like, I bet 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.920 he was within shot shooting range. Shit, they're not been trees. Yeah, 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.359 you guys, Yeah, I mean he wasn't far, that's for sure. 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.920 But within a minute he was. He was moving out, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:36.840 moving out with the with the ladies. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.679 And yeah, well yeah, he was so close. You know, 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:41.200 you guys. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.680 I set back call and you guys slipped up there 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.000 and I bugled. I'm like, the cody or there, just 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.440 because your guys with bugles sound great too, by the way. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.879 They just bugle, you know, or without a helm, like 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.200 surely they wouldn't have bugled. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:57.280 It was way too close. 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:58.919 To me, right, Yeah, it was just like it was 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.560 right there. Yeah, I'm like, I walked into this thing. 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.480 Yeah, I thought one of us was going to get seen, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:05.560 like it was that close. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.600 Yeah, man. And then he didn't. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.880 He didn't like us. He he pushed those cows and 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.720 and Cody and Dusty took in after him. And it 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.400 was a foot race across his steep, rocky tree covered hillside. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:19.560 Man. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.240 It was it was hard terrain probably to keep up. Yeah, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.920 it wasn't easy. I mean just the loose rock, yeah, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.520 and about nine thousand feet elevation and just trying to 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.280 get up there with him. And it was he beat 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.200 us by a long shot. And we watched that bull. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.080