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Speaker 2: Oh baby, I must see preseason game. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: my guy, my partner, Jeff Schwartz, schwartzey, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic this morning. Football is back. I'm very

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Speaker 3: much enjoying in two weeks till till college football is back. Man,

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Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say this. You know, and you're

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Speaker 2: really into a big time heavy duty. You played in

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Speaker 2: the NFL eight years. You're a tremendous football player. You

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Speaker 2: know the game. You know everybody's going crazy now they're

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Speaker 2: salivating his foot balls here, but you know, honestly, it

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Speaker 2: really isn't here because I mean these preseason games I

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Speaker 2: turn them on. I couldn't eate three players. I mean,

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Speaker 2: people are excited about football here, but they're not really

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Speaker 2: excited about the football that is here right now. I

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Speaker 2: don't think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I still will watch most of it.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty okay with understanding what Prison's football is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to. You have to understand what

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Speaker 3: it is and what you're watching. It's tryouts, it is.

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Speaker 3: But I was in the same situation as a young player.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just watching to watch football, I am.

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Speaker 3: There's kind nothing more than that. There's no rooting interest

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Speaker 3: in it. There's no you know, I know certain players

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Speaker 3: on some teams. You guys went to Oregon, guys I

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Speaker 3: cover in the PAC twelve guys in a you know,

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Speaker 3: big boys club off some offensive lineman. I know. So

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Speaker 3: you gotta just pick and choose someone to watch. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right. I mean the fourth quarter of these games,

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Speaker 3: I have no idea who's playing. For the most part.

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Speaker 2: I will say this though, and again, you know people

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Speaker 2: say they don't know who's playing. Is no room rooting interest.

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Speaker 2: There was somewhat of a rooting interest last night when

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbar's Baltimore Ravens were playing the Philadelphia Eagles because

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Speaker 2: he had something on the line. He had a streak

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Speaker 2: of twenty three consecutive wins in preseason games. I mean, Harbor,

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Speaker 2: I guess he's a competitor or he's just using this

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Speaker 2: for his resume. I don't know. But now they won

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Speaker 2: the twenty fourth consecutive game. They win twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 2: it was crazy because they had or was it a

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Speaker 2: sixty yard field goal by Justin Tucker. I mean really

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Speaker 2: in preseason games. I don't think normally you're going to

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Speaker 2: do that. But I guess he went out there to

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Speaker 2: win at all cost, so I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: must Sea game. I watched that game because of the streak.

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Speaker 3: So I did some research on this streak because it

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Speaker 3: feels at times very their offensive design heavy kind of

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Speaker 3: the reason why. But that's interesting, since Lamar Jackson got there,

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Speaker 3: they changed their offense for Lamar. That was he changed

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Speaker 3: it back to something more traditional with Todd Munkin. This

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Speaker 3: is their fifth time in five seasons they've won a

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Speaker 3: game by a single point in the preseason. Like they've

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Speaker 3: they've been kind of just getting by in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: So I have a theory and it's backed up by

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Speaker 3: by numbers of coaches in the preseason. They're against the spread, records,

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Speaker 3: defensive coach. Let's putpec non offensive coaches. Because Harbaugh is

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Speaker 3: a special teams guy. They care a lot about the preseason,

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Speaker 3: like they care about like winning and losing, far more

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Speaker 3: than offensive coaches. He Carroll is sixty two percent against

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Speaker 3: the spread. Sean McDermott covered yesterday. He's now thirteen and

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Speaker 3: six against the spread. They care because to them, you know,

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Speaker 3: Robert Sola, I think improved to five and three last

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Speaker 3: night when they dominated the Panthers. Is to them, every

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Speaker 3: rep is the most important rep. Ever, Like that's the

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Speaker 3: way defensive coaches feel. Right, they want to hit and

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Speaker 3: that you know, after the good we won, guys, good job.

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Speaker 3: The offensive coaches are there there to get their work in,

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Speaker 3: work on a few things, make sure no one gets hurt,

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Speaker 3: and move it along. Most offense coaches i've i've been,

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Speaker 2: That's interesting really, but I think that there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: So I don't have to go out there and like

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Speaker 2: playing for yourself more than anything else. It's not more

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Speaker 3: It certainly is.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing about it is you will hear from

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Speaker 3: you know, from coaches, they're like, hey, guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: make sure that you put good film out there, because

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Speaker 3: it's good. You're putting film out just not for yourself

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Speaker 3: there's there's you know, there's guys that are going to

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Speaker 3: they they have film out there that's going to attract

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Speaker 3: the attention of other teams. And so there are coaches, Andy,

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Speaker 3: they'll be very honest with you and be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you might not make this team, but something that you

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Speaker 3: do in these games might get you an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: start somewhere else or play somewhere else. So make sure

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Speaker 3: that again, if you don't think, you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: because once again you might not get it a job

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Speaker 3: on our team, but someone else is watching it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Every team is watching every single player of the preseason,

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Speaker 3: all the film. They're watching it all Andy, And it's

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Speaker 3: important for players to make sure they understand that this

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Speaker 3: is a resume not just for us, but for the

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Speaker 3: thirty two other teams the NFL or thirty one other

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Speaker 2: I get that, but here's the thing that I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I know you could clear this up for me, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I mentioned this I think early on to you

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's important. I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: get some game time play. I know he's a pro,

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Speaker 2: I know he's been there, done that, but I still

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Speaker 2: think you have to get the timing right. You just

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Speaker 2: can't sit on the sidelines and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: on opening day, get in there and play. I think

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Speaker 2: you got to play. These guys, they have a playing preseason.

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Speaker 3: I think Rogers will play in the second game, and

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Speaker 3: you know the Jets have four games. I think he

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Speaker 3: will play in that game. It is interesting to see

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Speaker 3: the mix between older coaches and kind of the younger

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Speaker 3: coaches and how they approach these things. You know, Andy Reid,

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Speaker 3: he said the starters are playing quarter today, who knows.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Holmes will play probably one drive. The offensive

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Speaker 3: With the starters like these, older coaches tend to play

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Speaker 3: And you know, Kenny Pickett played for Mike Tomlin for

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Speaker 3: You know, it just depends. Most older coaches will will

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Speaker 3: don't view the preseason the same way. They view it

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Speaker 3: as a risk. We play our guys as a risk,

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Speaker 3: and it's very different. It's different approaches. I'm with you, Andy,

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Speaker 3: a little more old score. I think that playing helps you.

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Speaker 3: And there's far less injuries than we think that happened.

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Speaker 3: And I understand that, you know, an injury could really

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Speaker 3: derail your season if you're a top echelon team and

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Speaker 3: it's a quarterback, of course, But yeah, I don't. I

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Speaker 3: to get hurt. I think it's it's reps, and reps

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how back in the day, and you

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Speaker 2: probably may not remember this, they played six preseason games,

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Speaker 2: six I mean, and going from six now to three

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how that is a betterment for a ballplayer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I get the fact that the more games you play,

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Speaker 2: if you're worried about injuries, forget about playing on Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think the body has time to RecA

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, there are a lot of coaches that

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Speaker 3: to get hurt. It's just, you know, it's the risk reward, right,

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Speaker 3: The risk of playing the preseason is not worth the

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Speaker 3: of the results. I get it, I get it. But again,

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Speaker 3: injuries are a part of the game. They happen. You

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Speaker 3: can't prevent them, and I think coaches feel like, hey man,

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Speaker 3: one thing we can control is how much our starters

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Speaker 3: playing the preseason. But you're the Jets right now. You

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Speaker 3: have offensive line issues and maybe that's why Rogers not

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Speaker 3: playing at the moment. Your your left tackle is out still,

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Speaker 3: your your backup left tackle is really your right guard

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Speaker 3: he's really supposed to be your right tackle. Then you

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Speaker 3: know you have backup right tackles playing your backup right

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Speaker 3: tackles aren't very good right now. It's just it's a

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Speaker 3: big mess. And so I am curious if that's a

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Speaker 3: reason why Rogers not playing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I found the rather funny. I'm watching Hard

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Speaker 2: Knocks right now, and they had the Jets game on.

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Speaker 2: They had a Hall of Fame game, then that Rogers

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Speaker 2: on the sideline. He looked like a coach. He had

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Speaker 2: the headsets on. Oh yeah, it's crazy. I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: is this all some coaches?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, Yeah, I get Dad, and he probably

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Speaker 2: is just as intelligent as any of the coaches. Really know,

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Speaker 2: we know what's going on. But but still I just

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Speaker 2: think you got to get into the game, and you

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Speaker 2: gotta you gotta get those snaps. But look, I'm not

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Speaker 2: a coach, and that's why I'm here with you, and

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Speaker 2: I learned from you. I do. But to some extent,

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Speaker 2: I think you're somewhat coming over to my side, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got you got to get some playing time in.

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Speaker 2: You're rusty.

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Speaker 3: I've always felt this way. It's not it's not you,

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Speaker 2: here we go. And the story here could be somewhat serious.

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Speaker 2: It really is I'm talking about the Washington command of

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Eric Beenemy is an intense coach. He's always been.

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Speaker 3: not gonna happen as a win enough games and Ron

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Speaker 3: Rivera two, Ron Rivera is in much in danger way

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Speaker 3: more than McCarthy isca was gonna win football games. McCarthy

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Speaker 3: gets fired. It's after the season for failure to you know,

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Speaker 3: win a playoff game or something not because they know

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Speaker 3: either they're two and seven after nine weeks. Ron Rivera

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Speaker 3: is that during all the messes that he's had, you

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Speaker 3: know that during his time as Washington commander as head coach,

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Speaker 3: he's put them all out like he's had to. He's

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Speaker 3: had to be the spokesperson for all these things that

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Speaker 3: have happened in an organization that are not his fault.

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Speaker 3: And in the end, that loyalty doesn't really kind of

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Speaker 3: stay with the new owner. And I feel bad that

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Speaker 3: Ron I had kind of had to deal with all

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Speaker 3: those things that we're going we're not his fault, we're

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Speaker 3: not his doing. We're the where the issues of the

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Speaker 3: old owner, who seem like a pretty terrible human being,

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Speaker 3: and Ron's the one who had to go to the

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Speaker 3: press conferences. Ron's wanted to answer questions. And now that

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Speaker 3: loyalty is not going to carry over to the new ownership.

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Speaker 2: Right, we have our outstanding executive producer A Shay Shape.

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Speaker 2: He found some some items on Eric B enemy what

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Speaker 6: Just take a listen, hey, you gotta understand we're going

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Speaker 6: to grown man's business in a grown man's world.

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Speaker 3: My job is to make sure that I'm doing the

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Speaker 6: Over communicating clarity. I take a tremendous amount of pride

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Speaker 6: in that they also know when I'm getting on them.

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Speaker 6: Ain't none personal. What's personal is that I want us

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Speaker 6: to win. I expect that particular player to be great

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Speaker 6: at all times.

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Speaker 2: I expect the effort to be a standard. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's unbelievable because I think any coach in America will

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Speaker 2: be saying the same thing. And why these players are crying,

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Speaker 2: I guess you know. It's such a turn about from

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Speaker 2: Scott Turner, who was the OC a year ago. They

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Speaker 2: say it was very low key.

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Speaker 3: Well again, I think the question is is the does

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Speaker 3: the intensity end up costing him or his players the

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Speaker 3: ability to get better together, right, Like, if he is

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Speaker 3: questioning players' efforts, that I think is on the players, right,

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Speaker 3: Like the players if you if you're not you don't

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Speaker 3: have a championship effort, man, And obviously the enemy knows

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Speaker 3: what that effort is, like he's multiple times Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 3: That I think is is really a fair game, right,

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Speaker 3: And if players can't deal with that, then maybe they

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Speaker 3: don't deserve to play in the NFL. Right. If you

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Speaker 3: can't give the effort that's required to improve each week,

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Speaker 3: that becomes a real big problem.

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Speaker 2: If it's just, and I know all he's trying to

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Speaker 3: Really, if it's just, if the enemy is and there

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Speaker 3: are coaches that are those types that sort of just

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Speaker 3: yell and scream and never acknowledge, you know, some positive things,

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Speaker 3: then I think maybe that's becomes the problem. But if

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Speaker 3: he's able to do both right, demand the players, you know,

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Speaker 3: give the right proper energy, which is which I think

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Speaker 3: is great, But again you should as a pro you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be able to give the energy already and and

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Speaker 3: still be able to teach and grow the offense, then

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Speaker 3: that's perfect. Again, the answer is really and again, if

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Speaker 3: this hurts the ability for him to coach up his offense,

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Speaker 3: it's a problem. If it doesn't, it's not a problem.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of simple like, and we don't know that

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Speaker 3: until they play games.

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Speaker 2: Right, You're exactly right. He's Jeff Schwartz. He's usually right.

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Speaker 2: He usually is. I'm Andy Furman together with Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tiraq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. But first, Kevin Wyatt with all your sports.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the preseason NFL in action on Saturday, the Bills

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Speaker 5: and Colts with Buffalo winning at twenty three to nineteen.

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Speaker 7: Well, that wasn't really the story.

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Speaker 5: The story, of course, was DeMar Hamlin playing in an

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Speaker 5: NFL game for the first time since he collapsed. You

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Speaker 5: to cardiac arrest. Back on January second in the game

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Speaker 5: against the Bengals, and absolutely a remark recovery. If you

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Speaker 5: go from him being revived at the hospital to him

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Speaker 5: being clear to practice, to him being allowed to wear

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Speaker 5: pads and take contact, and now him in an actual game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just incredible his journey to being able

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Speaker 5: to play back in an NFL game. As Deamar Hamlin

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Speaker 5: and the Bills beat the Colts twenty three to nineteen,

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Speaker 5: the Bears were a twenty three to seventeen win against

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Speaker 5: the Titans Dj Moore.

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Speaker 2: He only had one play for the.

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Speaker 5: Game and his Bears debut, but he made a count,

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Speaker 5: a sixty two yard touchdown catch and run for the

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Speaker 5: new Bears wide receiver. The Baltimore Ravens absolutely dominate the preseason.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that seems to be the safest money you

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Speaker 5: can win right now. They beat the Eagles twenty to

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Speaker 5: nineteen for their twenty fourth straight preseason win. Battle of

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Speaker 5: vala team's Chargers over the Rams thirty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Stetson Bennett in a second consecutive game at SOFI Stadium

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Speaker 5: if you count his National Championship game when he played

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Speaker 5: with the Georgia Bulldogs. Back in January. In college football ESPN,

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Speaker 5: with reports saying that the negotiated resolution between Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 5: been approved by the NC DOUBLEA Committee on Infractions, and

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Speaker 5: that leaves the timing of Harbaugh's expected suspension in doubt.

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Speaker 5: The agreement did have Harbaugh serving a suspension for the

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Speaker 5: first four games of this upcoming season. In the NBA,

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Speaker 5: ESPN with reports saying the seventy six Ers have pulled

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Speaker 5: James Harden off of the trading block and they'll try

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Speaker 5: to get him to show up to training camp. Harden

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Speaker 5: is believed to be upset with general manager Daryl Moray

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Speaker 5: over the lack of a long term contract. The Nasmith

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Speaker 5: Basketball Hall of Fame has some new members, Droucknovinsky, Tony Parker, Paugasol,

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Speaker 5: and Dwayne Wade all being inducted, Greg Popovich being honored

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Speaker 5: as well. In Springfield, Massachusetts, And in baseball, some late

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Speaker 5: scores from the West Coast. Last night, Orioles over the

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Speaker 5: Mariners won nothing, they outlast him in extra innings. Dodgers

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Speaker 5: beat the Rockies four to one, Rangers top the Giants

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Speaker 5: nine to three and the Diamondbacks shut out the Padres three.

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Speaker 2: Nothing back to you guys. Thanks keV. All Right, it's

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Speaker 2: all about him. We'll get to that in just about

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Speaker 2: a minute. And we're not talking about Jeff Schwartz, but

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Speaker 2: we have to eat my Schwartz at about ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: But if you watch the Hard Knocks Show this week,

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Speaker 2: number one, it was really the Aaron Rodgers show. Now

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Speaker 2: the question is here canny or will he make the difference?

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Speaker 2: Is he difference maker? Last year this team was seven

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Speaker 2: and ten after a seven and four start with about

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Speaker 2: the Jets? Yeah, how do teammates relate when they watched

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Speaker 2: this Hard Knocks and they see it's all about Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers and obviously one man can't do it by himself.

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Speaker 3: Well, I gotta say, I mean, the players seemed absolutely

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Speaker 3: thrilled to have Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback though, so like,

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Speaker 3: I think they're fine with it being about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: because it is about Aaron Rodgers. The success of the

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Speaker 3: Jets this season is about Aaron Rodgers. We know they

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Speaker 3: can play defense, we know that Robert Sulla can coach

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Speaker 3: that side of the ball. Are they going to score

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Speaker 3: points with Aaron Rodgers? That's the question. Is the offense

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Speaker 3: going to do enough to basically succeed? And I think

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Speaker 3: that that's a fair question, and Rodgers is going to

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Speaker 3: be the reason why that happens or not. And so

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Speaker 3: of course the attention is all Aaron Rodgers, and it's

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Speaker 3: just would be like, I think that's totally It's totally

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Speaker 3: normal and it should be that way and they should

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Speaker 3: approach the show that way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're saying I agree with the defense.

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Speaker 2: They have a top five defenss, no, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: And offense, they got the Garrett Wilsons in the world

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Speaker 2: offensive rookie of the Year, Alan Bazzard, they signed him

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Speaker 2: from Green Bay. Randall Cobb they got him from Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: So obviously they got some offensive weapons. Okay, but before

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Speaker 2: Week seven, look who they got on the schedule. The Bills,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the Patriots. That is probably gonna be a win, Chiefs, Broncos,

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Speaker 2: and Eagles. That's like Murderer's row, really, so maybe they

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Speaker 2: could be in bad shape before they get out of

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Speaker 2: the gate.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's no guarantee they're gonna they're gonna win. But

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Speaker 3: the thing is they have the opportunity to be much

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Speaker 3: better because of Rogers. I think the offensive line is

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Speaker 3: a huge problem for the Jets right now. Obviously, it

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Speaker 3: wasn't terribly good in the Panthers' joint practices. It didn't

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Speaker 3: look terribly good yesterday in the preseason game. I'm watching

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Speaker 3: your portion that game. They have to figure out, you know, again,

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Speaker 3: Dwayne Brown's out right now, that's a problem for them.

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Speaker 3: They got a lot of issues. They have to figure

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Speaker 3: these issues out if they want to be as good

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Speaker 3: as as they can be on offense. And so the

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Speaker 3: offense ave lot is a concern of mine, and it

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Speaker 3: could be a real big profer for Rogers if they

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Speaker 3: can't be as healthy and as vibrant as they want

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Speaker 3: it to be.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go further. I'll make this statement, and if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, slap me for me. Okay, If the Jets

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Speaker 2: do not make the playoffs, and this obviously is going

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Speaker 2: to be if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, as you said,

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Speaker 2: there's a good chance that Salor and Douglas Joe Douglas

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Speaker 2: a general manager, will get fired. Sale is he's under

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Speaker 2: contract till twenty twenty five, Douglas through twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Their buyouts would not be too heavy, all right, So

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Speaker 2: I think those guys will be gone if they don't

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Speaker 2: even make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not even a question, I think.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And last year Robert fell for sure.

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Speaker 3: Douglas maybe not. But because you can make the case

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Speaker 3: that he traded for Rogers, he should stay.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why I guess it was to Zach

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Speaker 2: Wilson's situation was last year the Jet started five and two,

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Speaker 2: then it was six and three, then it was seven

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Speaker 2: and four, and then they collapsed. They lost six straight games,

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Speaker 2: six straight games. How demoralizing is that?

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Speaker 3: It's terrible?

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Speaker 2: Have you You've been out some losing teams?

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Speaker 7: Have you?

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Speaker 2: What was your longest losing streak when you played?

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Speaker 3: We started zero to five in in in and ten

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Speaker 3: we were two and fourteen, but we ended up winning,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the sixth game, in the twelfth game,

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Speaker 3: So I mean, but we that year we averaged twelve

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Speaker 3: points a game, which is one of the lowest NFL

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Speaker 3: history in like the modern era. That's crazy. We averaged

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Speaker 3: twelve points a game with two Pro Bowl offensive linement

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Speaker 3: Jordan Grosser, Ryan Khalil, and with Steve Smith, a future

653
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame wide receiver and two Pro Bowl running

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Speaker 3: backs and James Williams, Jonathan Stewart and myself. I wasn't

655
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Speaker 3: terrible and we averaged twelve points a game because their

656
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Speaker 3: quarterback wasn't very good, and of course it wasn't very good.

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Speaker 2: What is it like when you're zero and five in

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Speaker 2: the locker room or during a practice during midweek. I mean,

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Speaker 2: do players say, let's get Is there a feeling of

660
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Speaker 2: like giving up, like they have no chance? You know,

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Speaker 2: players right out of the realm.

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Speaker 3: I mean what we like, we had a good We

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Speaker 3: had a good group in Carolina. There was no quit.

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Speaker 3: Part of it was so if you were called twenty ten,

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Speaker 3: what was called the uncapped year, right, it was a

666
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Speaker 3: year where the CBA was basically the Sound Cup was

667
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Speaker 3: non existent because we were going into a lockout in

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven and they had put it in place in

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Speaker 3: the previous CBA that had that uncapped season in twenty ten,

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Speaker 3: because it was it was almost like it was like

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Speaker 3: a you know, like a poison pill, right, It was

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Speaker 3: something that no one really wanted, and so they put

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Speaker 3: it in place to basically, if we got there, there's

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Speaker 3: something that no one wanted to do. So our owner,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Richardson, he decided that he was going to cut salary.

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Speaker 3: So he cut a bunch of old because again, there

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Speaker 3: was no there was no repercussions for any of this.

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Speaker 3: He cut a bunch of salary and we were really bad.

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Speaker 3: And John Fox are our coach, and I give him

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Speaker 3: a lot of credit for this about week seven or eight,

681
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Speaker 3: it was like, look, guys, you know we're not you

682
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Speaker 3: know we're we're we're gonna struggle this season. We're one

683
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: and six. I'm gonna be fined. I'm gonna find a job.

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Speaker 3: And remember he became the Broncos head coach. Make sure

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Speaker 3: that you guys play for each other, make sure you

686
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Speaker 3: put out good film, make sure that that you do

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Speaker 3: the best you can to be successful. And so he

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Speaker 3: was honest about it.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty bold on his well, not really bold.

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Speaker 3: It just was. It just was. It was honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we we played as hard as we could, man,

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Speaker 3: I mean it was. It was hard, don't mean wrong,

693
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Speaker 3: Like we we didn't. We didn't win a lot of games,

694
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Speaker 3: but we gave a lot of effort. Just you know,

695
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: quarterback play determined so much of your success in this league,

696
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Speaker 3: and our quarterback play was not very good. So it

697
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Speaker 3: was a tough season at not a lot of fun memories.

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Speaker 3: But you have a job, like we're being we're paid

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Speaker 3: to play football, man, Like you're paid to go out

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Speaker 3: every Sunday and play your your darn best, no matter

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Speaker 3: if you're winning or losing or on a bad team

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00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: or good team. It's much easier on a good team.

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00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: It's much more fun than a good team. But you're

704
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Speaker 3: you're paid to go give your best effort. Man, I

705
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Speaker 3: had all of us on that team, or two to

706
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Speaker 3: fourteen that year. We gave our best effort each and

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Speaker 3: every Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Quick question. Okay, quickie, Okay, I understand what Fox did.

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Speaker 2: It was great. You know, go out there, busty your

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Speaker 2: tail because you need film, you know, to get a

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Speaker 2: job somewhere else. Do coaches ever mentioned say you need

712
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Speaker 2: to go out there and bust your tail everybody because

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Speaker 2: you got some paying fans in the stands paying good

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Speaker 2: money to watch you play. Or has that ever been

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Speaker 2: brought up up at all?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Maybe by that's the end of it, all right. He's

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Ferman. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Time to chat with the pro. Eat

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Speaker 2: My Schwartze is next. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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Speaker 2: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our

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Speaker 2: app search FSR to listen live eat My Schwartz right

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Speaker 2: around the bend, by the way, we'll live from the

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Speaker 2: tyrock dot Com Studios. That's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Fermer.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it done. Let's don't eat my Schwartz. Time

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Speaker 2: a little music here we go. All right, all right,

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Speaker 2: are you ready, mister Schwartz.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can you I hate to put you on the spot,

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Speaker 2: but may what the heck? You know you're the football guy.

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Speaker 2: Can you make some early predictions from watching these preseason games?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean maybe one other pass. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson is gonna look that much better this season.

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Speaker 3: How about that? Is that a prediction?

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Speaker 2: I would think that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no, it's personal. You're looking at personal You're

739
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 3: looking at players. You're looking at you at developmental guys.

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Speaker 3: You're looking at guys that are able to special teams.

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Speaker 3: You've seen a bunch of punt returns so far, right.

742
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: The other guys you find to be able to do

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Speaker 3: some extra things for your team. But big swooping takeaways,

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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: there's none. I think. I remember the other Lions went

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00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 3: ford on the preseason, they would owe sixteen the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, I'm going to throw it back. I

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00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: remember when Boomer Siasin was quarterback in the Cincinnati Bengals,

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00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: and the quarterback coach was Dana Bible. I think there

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00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: was some heat between those two because I don't think

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Speaker 2: Boomer respected Dana Bible was Dana Bible really didn't have

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Speaker 2: much of a resume. Okay, So the question I have

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Speaker 2: for you, Jeff Schwartz is does a former player get

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Speaker 2: more respect as a head coach in the NFL than

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Speaker 2: a guy who maybe just was coming through the ranks.

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Speaker 3: No, what does that matter.

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Speaker 2: I would think a player would say, well, yeah, he's

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00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: been there, he's done that. I'm going to listen to

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Speaker 2: him as he knows, perhaps more so than others.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you I've had for a position coaches. It

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00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: has been good to have offensive line coaches that have

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Speaker 3: that have played. I liked it better they understood I

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00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: hadn't really had one who played the NFL, which is

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Speaker 3: Andy Hacking Kansas City, who's actually the first overall pick

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Speaker 3: I think in nineteen seventeen, nineteen eighty seven something like

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Speaker 3: that of her name. It's nice to have those guys

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Speaker 3: in the in the room with you because they get

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Speaker 3: it right. They understand position, and they understand, you know,

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00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: getting beat essentially right, like what that feels like and

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Speaker 3: how that's just sometimes you just get beat right. The

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Speaker 3: other guys can get paid also. But I've never felt

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Speaker 3: that the head coach matter whether you played or not.

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Speaker 3: I mean I played with John Fox and I played

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Speaker 3: with Ron Rivera, who did play, Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid,

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Speaker 3: Leslie Frasier. I mean it didn't matter to me who

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Speaker 3: they played or not. Can you coach? Can you lead?

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Speaker 3: Can you motivate? Can you design a good practice plan?

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Speaker 3: Can you take care of your players? I never felt like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, oh and you read guys didn't play

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Speaker 3: and didn't play in the NFL. I can't trust this guy.

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Speaker 2: No, no, j Have you played for a coach that

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Speaker 2: you felt didn't do as much preparation as he should

782
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Speaker 2: have done for you to get ready for the next game?

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Speaker 3: Sorry he cut out with the with the the two

784
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Speaker 3: minute warn't in there?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Did you ever play for a coach and you

786
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: felt like that coach did not give you as much

787
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: preparation for the next game as he should have, didn't

788
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Speaker 2: do his homework? No, they all did their work.

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Speaker 3: Well, now you have services that do it for you.

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00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: You don't have to. Okay, if you don't know the

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00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: numbers and you don't know the tendencies. That's you just

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Speaker 3: don't even care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but these coaches, I mean they hear stories that

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Speaker 2: they're sleeping in the office. Did they until midnight?

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Speaker 3: That's that's too much.

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Speaker 2: Is it that important to do that? Really?

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Speaker 3: No, you're just c uya the entire time. It's that's

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Speaker 3: too much. There's not too much, all right?

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Speaker 2: How important are wins for both coaches and players in

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Speaker 2: the preseason. I believe that winning is a habit, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to win in the preseason. So

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Speaker 2: you know what it feels like to win.

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Speaker 3: It's not that important, not that important. Are like the

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00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: Chiefs played today? Are you telling me if the Chiefs

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00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: don't win today that's somehow going to affect their confidence

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Speaker 3: for the rest of the season. No, No, Panther's lost

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Speaker 3: twenty nothing yesterday. Do you think that Bryce Young's like,

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Speaker 3: oh boy, we can't win a game this year?

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Speaker 2: But I think for a team like maybe Denver who

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00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: has not been accustomed to winning, a team like Washington,

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Speaker 2: I think it's important.

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Speaker 3: I think to me, it's it's individual confidence builds in

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Speaker 3: the preseason. I don't think team confidence because your half

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Speaker 3: her team gets gets sliced down in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're right about that. Now, will fewer preseason

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Speaker 2: games be more beneficial? No, I mean it's rougher for

817
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: players because they'll have less time to show their skills

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Speaker 2: and to get a job. Really, this is basically what

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Speaker 2: it is. Yes, so that's not good. Okay, we're going

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00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: to be better few of preseas. Okay, that's it. Well

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Speaker 2: we'll continue this. I'm going to do that with you. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to tell you if these NFL teams

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Speaker 2: will join the party, that and more right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Next, are they welcome? Well, that's coming

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Speaker 2: right up. Good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports. Ready. He is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman,

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Speaker 2: And here he is the one and only Jeff Schwartz,

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Speaker 2: and I owe you an apology. I am so sorry. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I owe you an apology because I just reminded myself

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Speaker 2: by looking at Twitter that your Carolina Panthers are still

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00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: blacked that locally on TV, and I said I was

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Speaker 2: going to write to the station manager to give him

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Speaker 2: some hell, but I forgot to do it. Well, I apologize.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's to be fair. So the local Fox station here,

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Speaker 3: all the local affiliates are owned by like third parties, right,

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00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: so it's not owned by like Fox per se, and

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Speaker 3: the third party has dispute with Direct TV, and so

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Speaker 3: I can't the Fox doesn't work. So like the regular

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: season of football, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I guess I will I watch on the streaming on

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Speaker 3: the app. But yeah, I couldn't watch Panthers pre game

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Speaker 3: last night. It was on NFL network. I found an

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Speaker 3: illegal stream. I tweet about it, so someone gave me

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Speaker 3: a stream to watch. No ideal, but I was able

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Speaker 3: to watch a little bit of that. I just want

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Speaker 3: to see Bryce young player. I mean, I'm not really

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Speaker 3: worried about anything else, but.

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Speaker 2: You would think that the Carolina Panthers would have some

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Speaker 2: sort of a TV network in and around the state,

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Speaker 2: so there might be other cities in the state of Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but the different cities have different affiliates

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Speaker 3: that carry the Panthers game. So it's not just so

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00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: here it's like it's Channel forty six, it's the Fox affiliate.

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Speaker 3: But other places it's the CBS affiliate. It's just what

860
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: that is each on local television here, So it just

861
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: depends on where you live what affiliate carries it. Does

862
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: that make sense?

863
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: Really? It's crazy. I don't get it either, but who

864
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: knows either? And what about the NFL network. It's not

865
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: on the NFL network.

866
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: It is, but it's blocked out because of the preseason.

867
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,239
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872
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: football game right now, because it's here. It is here

873
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: right now. Sorry, Baseball, move aside. It's football time now.

874
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: Winning playoff games says, you know, it's great, but making

875
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs even a consecutive seasons is quite the accomplishment

876
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You know that better than anybody. Let's

877
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: take a look at the AFCs for example. I'm going

878
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: to go back to nineteen seventy seven. With the exception

879
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: of that striking eighty two, at least one team has

880
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: won this division after missing the playoffs the previous season

881
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: and every year. Okay, the question I have right now,

882
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: we'll get into some of these teams. Will these teams

883
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: join the playoff party this year? I'm gonna start off

884
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: with the Las Vegas Raiders, and I say they're not

885
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: gonna go to the playoffs this year.

886
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: You take, Jeff Schwartz, not gonna be a playoff team

887
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: this year?

888
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: You're correct, Okay, they got some problems.

889
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are in the in the running

890
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: for like warts record, yea, very well the season.

891
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah right, here's a team right now. I mean Josh

892
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Jacobs still on the outside looking in quarterback situation. Jimmy Garoppolo,

893
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: I got he's got it. They say he's got a

894
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: clean bill of health with that foot injury, but you know,

895
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: how's he going to operate without that Jacobs in the backfield.

896
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be less offense, right no doubt

897
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: about that.

898
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: Well, up will be back for the season. I don't

899
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: have a fear of.

900
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: That, all right, Okay, but the defense right now is

901
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: real shaky, no doubt about that.

902
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: Max Crosby. And then so I had to write a

903
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: I didn't have to, but for Fox Sports, we we

904
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: are running a series this preseason and we rate the

905
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: young talent in the NFL and the Raiders. I wrote

906
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: a but I'm doing the AFC West teams and I

907
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 3: just did the Raiders one, and it's it's interesting about

908
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: the Raider. It's not interesting, but you know, they just

909
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: had three years of really bad drafting and it's caught

910
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: up to them now. Max Crosby was great, but he's

911
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick. But I'm talking like the first

912
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: second round picks. It's just not been good. And that

913
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: catches up to you, right You're you're, you're they're void

914
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: of like a depth, a deep roster right now. It's

915
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: a big problem. And that's where you know, Max Crosby great,

916
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs fantastic, and then it's like mean Hunter renfro

917
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: It is not bad, but it's not you know, it's

918
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: not you know, it's not that he's not a superstar

919
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: like that's it. It's they have said they have six

920
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: or seven guys they've drafted in the last five to

921
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: seven years that are starting for them. This is not

922
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: good enough. It's not what good teams you know, it's

923
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: not the ratio good teams have.

924
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they move off for Derek Carr. I don't know

925
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: if that's such a great move or not. Year two

926
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: on the coach, Josh McDaniels, he's gonna be on the

927
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: hot seat. You talked about coaches are gonna be on

928
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: the hot seat. I think his name's got to be there,

929
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: even though it's his second year of coaching.

930
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but he's for sure hot seat.

931
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. I mean last year there's

932
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: six and eleven and uh, it's just one of those things.

933
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: They just they don't mesh well together. I don't know

934
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: what the problem is. And again, you're right, they got

935
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: two or three guys that are really big time players,

936
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: but other than that, the supporting cast is not there.

937
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: And uh, six and eleven last year, I ain't got

938
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: a cut up for Judgh mcdangels and his future.

939
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: No chance. Yes, I think that it's a good possibility

940
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: that he's he's gone, and you know they're in the

941
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: Killer Williams Hunt.

942
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: Really yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I just you know, everything

943
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: was really good moving to Vegas, and the hype was

944
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 2: there Derek Carr, I mean, he had some great numbers.

945
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: And I still don't think it was a great move

946
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: getting rid of Derek Carr. I really don't.

947
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they just you didn't get you didn't

948
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: get better at that position. We know important quarterback, you know,

949
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: it is for success on your team.

950
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: And speaking of quarterbacks, I mean here's a situation right now.

951
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Arizona Cardinals again, a team that's

952
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: not going anywhere, not going to the playoffs. And even

953
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: if their quarterback Kyler Murray is better with I reconstructed

954
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: ACL if he was ready to go in Week one,

955
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: which I don't think he will, there's some serious questions

956
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: about their ability to compete this year on a drasta

957
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: that is really terrible, especially on defense, and the coaching

958
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: staff really is new. They just don't know the personnel.

959
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to be terrible, but I think they

960
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: want to be bad, Like there's a they I mean,

961
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: I think the new staff would love to draft Killer

962
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: Williams call Williams is a special football player. And I

963
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 3: think that they want to be bad this season. We're

964
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: new GM, new head coach. No allegiance at all to

965
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. They do not they I mean the contract

966
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: obviously they have you know, are of the contract and

967
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: that might be a problem for them. But there's nothing

968
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: about the staff that says, I need to keep a

969
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: guy that we didn't draft, right that we didn't, you

970
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: know that we didn't. There's they do not care.

971
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny because all the hype with Kyler

972
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: Murray and then last year boy that they put, they

973
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: just buried the guy. I mean really and truly mean

974
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: to announce the situation that he didn't study and things

975
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: like that. I just did that stuff.

976
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: They didn't announce that that that was that was in

977
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 3: the contract, like the agent.

978
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: But that contract shouldn't have been out there. That's what

979
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I mean the agents.

980
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the agents did that. I mean, that's

981
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 3: just that that's an agent thing. They wanted to embarrass

982
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: I imagine Arizona for the Yeah, but but.

983
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: It hurt his client. It hurt Kyler Murray. I really

984
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: believe that. I just don't think that stuff should be

985
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: a material for the public to have or even the media.

986
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Kyler Murray right now is in the doghouse

987
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: and a lot of people just don't think he's the

988
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: same guy that they was when he was drafted by Arizona. Well,

989
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: he was a loose he didn't do his.

990
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: Homework, sure, but I will say that, I mean, if

991
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: he was better, he wouldn't be in the doghouse. Like

992
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: it's it's a it's a Also, he hasn't played up

993
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: to the standards that people think he should play. It like,

994
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: that's part of it too. It's not just that he

995
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: you know, if he had If if this was a

996
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: situation where he was playing really, really good and they

997
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: put this clause in his contract, I mean, people will

998
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 3: like probably be like okay, whatever it matter. But he

999
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: hasn't played as well people as people think he should.

1000
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: So that becomes the problem here. It's all about if you.

1001
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: It really is all about you know, are you good

1002
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 3: enough to to have distractions? Are you good enough to

1003
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: have these questions about you? And when you don't play

1004
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: as well, people can point to see this is why

1005
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: so Converde has to play better football, and these questions

1006
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: won't be asked. Yeah.

1007
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: I think that this team right now may have the

1008
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: word record in the NFL.

1009
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: I really yeah, But I think they I think they

1010
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 3: want NFL.

1011
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's then you took of kyleon Moraman. He overshadows

1012
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: the major problems on this team right now. The defensive line.

1013
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: They lose JJ Watt, he retired, Zach Allen goes to

1014
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 2: free agency. Okay, they released that edge rusher Marcus Golden.

1015
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: They don't have an established one guy that could be

1016
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: a pass rusher on this roster.

1017
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: Really yeah, again, Andy, the point is they they want

1018
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: to be bad. And remember the way you tank in

1019
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: the NFL is not on game day. Too many players

1020
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: are playing. I just I went over the when we

1021
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: were two to fourteen. You play hard every game, the

1022
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: coaches coach to win every game. You tank by having

1023
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: a bad roster and by and by Kyler Murray. You

1024
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: know he's like sort of healthy, but you don't play

1025
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: him for last six games of the season. You know,

1026
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 3: like that that's how you tank. You do not tank

1027
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: on game day. I mean very famously, you know the

1028
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: whole Brian Forest thing, like no, I'm not doing that like,

1029
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: it's not the way it works. So Arizona is trying

1030
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: to be bad with their roster and the bad roster,

1031
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: and they bad roster.

1032
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: They don't have to try too different. They know to

1033
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: try too hard, they will be bad, no doubt about that.

1034
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: I think another team that probably will be on the

1035
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: outside looking in not making the playoffs, although I'm interested

1036
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: in watching their new quarterback Richardson. Uh at the Indianapolis

1037
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: Colts got a first year head coach. Anthony Richardson is

1038
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback you played a little bit yesterday. I guess

1039
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna take time for Richardson. We don't know what

1040
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna do, how good he may may be. But uh,

1041
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, what's the story with him at the mornning

1042
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: back position? Yeah, I mean he'll play.

1043
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: He'll be there. You're all gonna play. They have to.

1044
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: He's not gonna lose out of ten million dollars. Lidean

1045
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: Bell tried this already, like it, you're not gonna You're

1046
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: not gonna. It's that's too much money to not It's

1047
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: too much money. You're not gonna lose ten million dollars.

1048
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: But what you do is you just sit out as

1049
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: long as possible, so you don't you don't beat up

1050
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 3: your body in training camp.

1051
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: Right, which isn't a bad idea really, but you know,

1052
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: and that's why when you watch the NFL the first

1053
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: two weeks usually you could see the rust. You could

1054
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: see a little bit of a rust on these players, right,

1055
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: You've seen that.

1056
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, running back, I don't. I don't know. It's

1057
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: a good question about running back. I don't know if

1058
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: we're going if we see much rust at that position.

1059
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: But I'm curious sitting this, well, you know, guys, a

1060
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: lot of guys you know out big starts out to

1061
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: Jacobs and and uh and and Taylor. I'm curious if

1062
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: that ends up hindering those guys when they come back

1063
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: this year.

1064
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: Now, what happens if Anthony Richardson isn't ready? I mean,

1065
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: who's quarterback in this school club? I mean, they're gonna

1066
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: go over.

1067
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. The Colts have been very clear about this.

1068
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: I actually really appreciate their honesty on this. They have

1069
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 3: said to them, it does not matter how he passes

1070
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: this season. Our only job is to get him ready

1071
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: for next season and get him reps. You know again,

1072
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: I love the honesty of that, because I think that's

1073
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 3: a very a very wise thing to do. He actually

1074
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: had a great throw yesterday too, like a really like

1075
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: probably the best throw of any rookie you know playing

1076
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: in week one. It was a really good that was drop.

1077
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: It was a great throw. Just get him reps, man,

1078
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: get him reps. Does it matter if he is bad, good, great, terrible?

1079
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: Every four weeks you want to see better play from him.

1080
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: That's all you want. So week one and improve to

1081
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: week five. He's better week five, and then at week

1082
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: nine or ten you see improvement. It's all about next season.

1083
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: It's all about making sure you can maximize his ability

1084
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: to help you win football games.

1085
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: Was on a rookie contract, and you know what's funny.

1086
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: Back in the day, when they draft a quarterback, he'd

1087
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: be on the sideline for maybe a year at to

1088
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was he's a perfect example. Have the clipboard

1089
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: in this now you drift the quart it back, you

1090
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: push your run into action, and I don't know which

1091
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: is better. I get the fact that you're paying big

1092
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: money for these guys. You want to get on the fields.

1093
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: Because coaches get fired now so fast. If Shane Styken

1094
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: in year three is not winning. He's being fired after

1095
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 3: that season. And the best way to win is to

1096
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 3: have a good quarterback who has some experience and knowledge

1097
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: and has had the underneath them. That's why you do it.

1098
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: And I think with Richardson kind of how how green

1099
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: he is, I think playing would be good for him,

1100
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: like getting reps and just kind of and he's so

1101
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: athletic too that you can put him out there and

1102
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: not fear that that you know, hits might to tear him.

1103
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 3: He'll get lost, scramble in the yard. He's two hundred

1104
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: and forty five pounds. Man, he's gonna he'll be okay.

1105
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: He's gonna be fine, even even with truckles this year.

1106
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: All the experience that he has will we'll we'll pay

1107
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: off into year two. Plus. The times a lot of

1108
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks sit out is because their team sort of

1109
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: has a chance to win. The coaches want the opportunity

1110
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: to win. There's no colds are going to win anything

1111
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 3: this year, So play the young cat. Yeah.

1112
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything better than throwing a guy

1113
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: to the wolves. I mean, playoff. We just experienced to

1114
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 2: see how fast the NFL is as opposed to college

1115
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: and just getting to know the game itself. The reads.

1116
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: You can't do that on the sideline with a clipboard.

1117
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 2: You got to go out there and play correct. That's

1118
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: what it's all about. All right, let's get it rolling

1119
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: right now. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Ferman. And by

1120
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: the way, you can get us on Twitter at Jeff

1121
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: Schwartz's GEO.

1122
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: F F.

1123
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Schwartz will read it, will retweet him or at Andy

1124
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: Furman Episode bety Yet, we'd love to hear from you

1125
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Speaker 2: at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eighty

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Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. We

1127
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: got bottom barrel betting in this hour and the blame

1128
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: game in our number three. But just call these teams

1129
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: the party crashers. That's next. Will they really be invited? Well,

1130
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: we'll get to that in just about a minute. He

1131
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Fermer, live from the tiraq

1132
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: dot com studios on Fox Sports Sunday right here on

1133
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. And let's talk about hype, because the

1134
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: hype machine's in full swing. It's full swing right now.

1135
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: No team, there's not one team in the NFL. Jeff,

1136
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: that made a bigger turnaround last year than the Detroit

1137
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: Lions after they were three thirteen to one and twenty

1138
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: twenty one. They came back from a one in six

1139
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: start last year to win eight of their last ten games,

1140
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: and they just missed the postseason. They got a young roster,

1141
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: they got to coach Dan Campbell, who's like a hype machine,

1142
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: and everybody's going crazy. As a matter of fact, I

1143
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: just found out that Ford Frickfield this year. They're sold

1144
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: out for the first time, So they got big things.

1145
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: They got big expectations in Detroit. Is it real? Should

1146
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: they believe it? I think the fact that Aaron Rodgers

1147
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: is no longer in that division that's a big plus

1148
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: for them.

1149
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's okay to believe in a little

1150
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 3: bit of the hype. The thing is, is Jared Goff

1151
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: to play as well this season. Have they improved the

1152
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: defense enough to be competitive? And those are legitimate questions.

1153
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: I also think that the winner of the preseason, the

1154
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: winner of the off season, is rarely the winner in

1155
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: the regular season. And there's a lot of hype on

1156
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: this team being really good, and it's warranted after the

1157
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: way they finished last season. But again, How many years

1158
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: have the Chargers won the Super Bowl in the offseason? Right?

1159
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: How many years as any team either dream team in Philly? Right?

1160
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: If you recall that and it was twenty twelve, they

1161
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: went like ten the next season. You know, the winner

1162
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: of the off season and the team we're most hyped

1163
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: typically doesn't end up being the team that we think

1164
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: they're going to be. If you look around the NFL

1165
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: last season, I believe seven out of eight divisions were

1166
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: won by the best quarterback. It's kind of simple. Do

1167
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: we believe that Jared Goff is the best quarterback in

1168
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: that division? Is he better than Cousins?

1169
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: But be Cousins is up and down, but still Cousins

1170
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: got numbers. There's no doubt about that. I mean, if

1171
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm drafted, I'm taking Cousins of a golf There's no

1172
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind. But I think that this Detroit

1173
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: team can win despite golf because of the people around him.

1174
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not a recipe for long term success.

1175
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: We can win despite our quarterback.

1176
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're right. Look, this team hasn't won the

1177
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: playoff game since nineteen ninety one. They haven't won an

1178
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: NFL title just nineteen fifty seven. It's unbelievable really win title.

1179
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: So if they get to the playoffs, it'll be huge,

1180
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: it really will. I mean, but you know, they got

1181
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: to get started up early because the schedule is not

1182
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: that not that pleasant, to be honest with you. Opening

1183
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: game at Kansas City, it's a night game September seventh.

1184
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: That doesn't cut it right there. I mean, I would

1185
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: think Kansas City wins that game. However, if Detroit wins

1186
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: that game, they'll be going There'll be no school the

1187
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: next day in Detroit, that I promise you.

1188
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: Oh, no chance, correct, right, Yeah, But look, but they're

1189
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: not they're not winning Super Bowl, so it's not really

1190
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: important conversation they have in my opinion.

1191
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: But I will say this though, the Kansas City games

1192
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: would be tough to no doubt about that. But after that,

1193
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: they got some winnable games Seattle, Atlanta, Green Bay, Carolina,

1194
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. So there's a good chance they could be one, two, three, four, five,

1195
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: five and one after their first six games.

1196
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 3: It's fair, but I just I just again, I would

1197
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: just be again the idea. A lot of times, the

1198
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: winner of the off season is not the winner in

1199
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Speaker 3: the regular season. And we've seen that year after after year.

1200
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: Do you believe in the Lions though? Will they be

1201
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: in the playoffs in the NFC?

1202
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I think so?

1203
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: Okay, good, all right, I'm with you there. I think

1204
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: they And I like Dan Campbell after I saw him

1205
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: last year in Hard Knocks. I like that guy. You

1206
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: we like playing for a guy like that, an emotional

1207
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: coach like that who every other word of his mouth

1208
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: is the F bomb.

1209
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I don't. I'm kind of different to that.

1210
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: It wouldn't bother me.

1211
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: Okay, we move on. The New Orleans Saints, all right.

1212
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: Obviously they finished one game at a first last year,

1213
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: but they do play in the worst division of the NFL. Okay,

1214
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: quarterback Derek Carr, he could be the best quarterback in

1215
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: the NFC South, really, So we'll see what happens in

1216
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: New Orleans.

1217
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but their roster is continuing kind of declining

1218
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: year by year. You know, this this idea that you

1219
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: can just you know, pay whatever you want for any

1220
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: sort of player, It doesn't. Yeah, it's great for a while,

1221
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: but eventually the bill comes due and the bill is

1222
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: come and do uh. They're just not as talent as

1223
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: they used to be around around car I think they're

1224
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: gonna be good kind of eight or nine win team,

1225
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: but that's probably the max for this team this year.

1226
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: And Alvin kamaras Alpha three games with a suspension. That's

1227
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: gonna hurt.

1228
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna hurt. But yeah, I think they're about

1229
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: a nine win team. I'm not I'm not that high

1230
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: on them.

1231
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: So they'll be on the cusp on the border of

1232
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: becoming a playoff team. The only thing they have going

1233
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: for them is the division that they're in.

1234
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 3: I think the Panthers win their division, but we'll see

1235
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: as goes on. That's my that's my that's my pick

1236
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 3: for them. There's always a team that goes from worse

1237
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: to first in the division. I think it's the Panthers

1238
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: that the Green Baby Papers actually weren't the worst last

1239
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: year though, right because they almost made the playoffs.

1240
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: Almost right one game out they missed pay a game.

1241
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Love looked pretty good Friday night in Cincinnati here,

1242
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: so maybe there's some hope yet for the Green Bay Packers.

1243
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he looked okay, he had some bad those early.

1244
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: He played better than the second half. But again, I mean,

1245
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 3: you're not playing starters like that's part of the preseason.

1246
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: I get that, but you have to Here's the thing

1247
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: about Jordan Love. I feel like we would sort of

1248
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: know he's had in his fourth season. You know, Aaron

1249
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: Rodgers is a rarity, right when a guy sits behind

1250
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: in their Hall of Famer and it comes in becomes

1251
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: like special. We would sort of know if Jordan Love

1252
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: was special, alrighty, I feel like he was that special.

1253
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 3: Rogers would have been jettison two years ago. I think

1254
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: Jordan Love is just a dude. He's just gonna be okay.

1255
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: And that's not good enough obviously to replace, you know,

1256
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: a legend like Rogers. I think she'd be okay, nothing,

1257
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: nothing special, right, And look.

1258
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything special on that roster besides him.

1259
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: Think about that. I mean, who is a special player

1260
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: right now on Green Bay in your mind?

1261
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean I was saying some offensive linemen, they're pretty

1262
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: good if Buck Derek can stay healthy.

1263
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the offense, I mean right now with DeVonta Adams,

1264
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: he's gone. I mean, most of those guys have jettison

1265
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: to New York.

1266
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: I think Watson, I think Watson could be good, but

1267
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: I mean not, you know, obviously not not kind.

1268
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: Now, is green Bay making the playoffs?

1269
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: No, I would say, I would probably say no, all.

1270
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: Right, it's good, all right, I mean, and it's so hard.

1271
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate asking the questions to you because

1272
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't mean to put you on the spot. But again,

1273
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: you can't tell anything this time of the year. You

1274
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: really can't. I mean, who knows what's gonna happen. But

1275
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: I would say that if I was a betting man,

1276
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: I would not bet on the green Bay Packers to

1277
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: make the playoffs this year, right, I just don't think

1278
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: they would. I mean, and I take I take what

1279
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 2: you say very much to my heart because it makes

1280
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. You don't have a quarterback, you

1281
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: ain't going anywhere. That's just the nature of the business.

1282
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: That's how important that position is. And although I want

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01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: to see the sper Lines do well, but Jared Goff,

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, and I have a lot of confidence.

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Speaker 3: In that guy. It's very simple, man, the game. I mean,

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01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: it comes down to, like, you know, can you can

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01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 3: you uh? Can you win that position if it's that important?

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01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Jared Goff might be great again, it's possible,

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 3: but I think he's very sheltered by the system he's

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01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: in and and that to me is not something you

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: can rely on uh year and a year out as

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01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: as successful. That's that it's a problem for me with Gough.

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01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: Maybe he's going to be different this season. Maybe he

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: is a guy that you can rely on as you

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: can other quarterbacks in this league. But I think you win,

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: you win kind of because he's not. You don't win

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: because of golf. You just win because that's scripped, you know,

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't screw up like that's I think to me,

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01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: that's still an issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go back to that team that

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Speaker 2: you played on that average twelve points a game, okay,

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01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: and the guys get together, go out to have a

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: couple of Bruce Ki's. Sometimes they have to practice during

1304
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: the week. Is there any conversations saying, you know, we're

1305
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: not that bad, but we just don't have a quarterback.

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01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: We're not going to win. Is there is there talk

1307
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: like that, knowing that you don't have a star quarterback

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01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: so you don't have a chance to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew were Yeah, we knew the quarterback wasn't

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: very good.

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01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: And when you knew he wasn't that good, you say,

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01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: like we don't have a chance to win. So you

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: just know that going in.

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, there were games that we like, we talked

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,439
Speaker 3: about that, Yeah, that we knew, Like, there was games

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: that we knew we're just working to win. Now again,

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: you don't play any less hard, but there were games

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: that we knew we were not gonna win. Yeah, amazing,

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01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: it really is.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox What's Sunday at Fox Bots Radio.

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Speaker 2: New coach, new offense, same old quarterback. That's coming up

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Speaker 2: next right here in Fox What's Sunday Live for the

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Speaker 2: tiraq dot com studios. But first, here's Kevin Wyrett with

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Speaker 2: all your updates.

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Speaker 5: NFL preseason on Saturday, the Bills and Colts started off

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01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 5: the slate of action. The Buffalo bill has won twenty

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Speaker 5: three to nineteen. But the story of that game Damar

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01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 5: Hamlin playing an NFL game for the first time since

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01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 5: he collapsed because of all cardiac arrest he suffered back

1330
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 5: in January second so a remarkable recovery from him being

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 5: revived at the hospital to him being cleared to play,

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 5: to him being cleared to have contact at practice, and

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 5: now he's in a full game, even if it is

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Speaker 5: just the preseason. It's absolutely incredible how far he has

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 5: come in just a few short months. Beat the Titans

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01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 5: twenty three to seventeen as DJ Moore had a huge

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 5: play in his Chicago debut. Only had one catch, but

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 5: he made a count sixty two yard touchdown reception a

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 5: catch and run for the new Chicago Bears receiver Jets

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Speaker 5: with a shoutout win twenty seven tozering over the Panthers,

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Speaker 5: Jaguars over the Cowboys twenty eight twenty three. Ravens unstoppable

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 5: in the preseason. It's now twenty four straight preseason wins

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Speaker 5: for the Baltimore Ravens. They beat the Eagles twenty to

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 5: nineteen and they have now set a new NFL record

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 5: Chargers and Rams. In the Battle of La, it's the

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 5: former San Diego team with a thirty four to seventeen

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 5: win against the former Saint Louis team. And in college football,

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01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh in the NCAA appeared to have an agreement

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01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 5: that would have him serve the first four games of

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01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 5: the upcoming season. However, ESPN were the reports saying that

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 5: that negotiated resolution has actually not been approved by the

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01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 5: NCAA Committee on infractions, and that means the timing of

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01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 5: that suspension is now in doubt. In the ESPN saying

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 5: that the seventy six ers have pulled James Harden off

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 5: of the trading block and they'll try to get him

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01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 5: to show up to training camp. Harden is believed to

1357
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 5: be upset with general manager Daryl Morey over the lack

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 5: of a long term contract and Derek Davitsky, Tony Parker,

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01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 5: Pawve Saal, Dwayne Wade the newest players in the Naismith

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Speaker 5: Basketball Hall of Fame. Greg Popovich also honored in the

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Speaker 5: ceremonies last night in Springfield, Massachusetts. And some late baseball

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Speaker 5: scores from the West Coast extra innings in Seattle, the

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Speaker 5: Orioles that last, the Mariners won nothing, Dodgers top the

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: Rockies four to one, Rangers over the Giants nine to three,

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Speaker 5: and the Diamondbacks shut out their N West rival the

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Speaker 5: Padres three.

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Speaker 2: Nothing. Back to you guys, thanks, Keevisey. In about an hour.

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Speaker 2: Will this marriage work? Well, that's right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: We of course the fifty online that we'll be called

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff schwartzem

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. But right now talking about the marriage

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Speaker 2: to marriage I'm talking about is in Denver, well Sean

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: Payton's offense bring life back to the quarterback Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, I'm reading these reports out

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Speaker 2: of Denver. These media people are ready to bury Russell Wilson.

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01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: Don't just wait. You may end up burying him, that's

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: for sure, but I just don't think now's the time.

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: Give him some time, give him the chance. You know

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: the other night when Denver was playing in that preseason

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: game and Sean Payton put him in for a couple

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01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: extra series, you know, the speculation was for media people, oh, oh,

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01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: Sean Payton wants to see some more. He's not getting

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: a job done. I mean no, he just let him

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Speaker 2: in there on the new offense. That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Both I think he did it for low confidence, because

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter you're playing against the Cardinals threes, twos

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 3: or threes. The confidence that Russell Wilson will gain from

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01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: playing playing well is important and that's why Sean Payne

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 3: kept him in. But it also goes to show you

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01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: that his confidence is severely lacking if you're having to

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 3: keep a twelve year quarterback in the twelfth season in

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 3: the middle of the end quarter of the first preseason

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: game to get his confidence back up. So both are true.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't think Russell Wilson fits this offense

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Speaker 3: at all. I just I think Russell Wilson, what he does,

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01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: what he's done well in his career, is not at

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: all this offense. And I'm just not sure this is

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: a great fit for him. We'll find out season goes along,

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: but I think he'll be better this year by default

1405
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: because he can't be any worse. But I don't see

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson as ever returning to what he was in Seattle,

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Speaker 3: like not even well.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't the legs anymore, I'm sure of that, but

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: it's important. He was sacked only once on Friday. He

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01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: was like seven to thirteen ninety three yards, but I'm

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: gonna ask you this chef you talk about, you don't

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: think he fits this off as what exactly is this

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: Denver offense?

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Speaker 3: Well, they want to run the football, you know that,

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: and they're gonna when Champagne has done in the past

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 3: right as complex passing scheme it quick throws, timing routes

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 3: in the pocket. Russell Wilson has never been a guy

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Speaker 3: where you're like up timing routes. That's his thing. It's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's not what he's done in his career.

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Speaker 2: Well, in fifteen years. I would look this up, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know how correct it might be, but I

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01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: did look it up and it said that in fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton's offense has averaged more than twenty five points

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01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: a game twelve times. Okay, Hackett coach. Last year they

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: had a league worst sixteen point nine points a game.

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Speaker 2: So I would think that he's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be better, right, But if people think he's

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Speaker 3: going to be any sort of semblance of what he

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Speaker 3: was in Seattle, I think you're really your hope's a

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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Too high, right, And look, I mean the point is

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Speaker 2: that he's older too. I mean, he just doesn't have

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01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: it what he used to be. I mean, he was

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01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: always sacked a lot. You know, that's just the way

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Speaker 2: he was when he played in Seattle. He always got sacked.

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Speaker 2: Thought he only got sacked once, as I said on

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Speaker 2: Friday Night. But you know, I gotta believe he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be better. But I can't wait for October fifth, when

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: the Jets are playing the Denver Broncos in Denver because

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: of the remarks that Sean Payton made about I guess

1441
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: the entire New York Jets front office and their coaching

1442
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: staff saying that Hacket is nothing offensive coordinator in New

1443
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: York who was like, did the worst job of any

1444
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: coach in the National Football League. I mean, we'll see

1445
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 2: what happens right now. Let's see if he does any better.

1446
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: Really and truly by saying that the pressure is on

1447
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, he really is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the pressure for this season is on Russell Wilson

1449
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 3: because Sean Payn is a track record of working with

1450
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 3: many quarterbacks and having success. Even when Drew Brees was

1451
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: out right what Taysom Hill did or any of the

1452
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: backups did Teddy Bridgewater for that stretch, remember Teddy Bridge

1453
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 3: were won like five games in a row for them.

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01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: If Russell Wilson can't play that that's on Russell Wilson now,

1455
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: like Sempayne is a proven quarterback coach, a proven winner,

1456
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 3: someone who has gotten the most of his quarterbacks this season,

1457
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: the pressure is all Russell Wilson. Man, It's not. It's

1458
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: not in Sean Payne because guess what, if he doesn't

1459
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: play well this year, they'll move on from Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: They'll find a way to get out of the deal

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 3: and get him somewhere else that the drafting on the

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: quarter do something they'll get out of. They get out

1463
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 3: of Russell the Russell Wilson business pretty fast. Sean Payne

1464
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 3: will still be there. This the all pressure on Russell

1465
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: Wilson this season, you know.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, I'm looking at the death shot. I think

1467
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy is a proven receiver. Other than that, I mean,

1468
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: what do they have on offense? I mean, really, some

1469
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: gip run for the Bengals last year. He's now there,

1470
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: They're running back, they're starting running back in Denver. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they don't have much to work with. They really don't correct,

1472
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Speaker 2: So I don't expect much. I really don't playoffs. Perhaps,

1473
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think a playoff team

1474
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, no chance, no chance. I'm with you

1475
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: on that.

1476
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: There we go.

1477
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: And again, if there's a problem with Russell Wilson and

1478
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: he doesn't get off on the right foot, what do

1479
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: they do that they stick with him, that they go

1480
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: to the backup quarter but they do, yes, so he's

1481
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 2: their quarterback. Yes, win or lose. It's amazing. So we'll

1482
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 2: see what happens. They play vague, you know what, they

1483
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: got a shot an opening day because they're playing Vegas

1484
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: at home. So in other words, they got they got

1485
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: a shot it going.

1486
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: Too and oh their started to one last year finished

1487
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 3: three and fourteen.

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, you just can't. You don't know.

1489
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, for us to discuss these teams

1490
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: right now, is it somewhat foolish A little bit in

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Speaker 2: a way. I mean, it's exciting, but it's it's foolish

1492
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: because we're going to look back and say, wow, did

1493
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: we say that the Lions are going to be the

1494
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: division and to make the player.

1495
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: My division that's going to make the playoffs that division?

1496
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: But I think the Broncos can't go to and oh

1497
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: they got the first two games at home and it's

1498
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: against Vegas and Washington.

1499
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean great, right, then I'll bet they're under

1500
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: because some people are overreacting, like I mean, I just

1501
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm unmoved by someone starting fast in the NFL. Doesn't

1502
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: bother me, it makes me change in my opinion at all.

1503
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 3: I got to see half a season before I.

1504
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: Decide whether or not. It's funny you say that, because

1505
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 2: you know it's all I hear about these tac We

1506
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: got to get up to a quick start. And I

1507
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: remember last year the Bengals started oh and two, you know,

1508
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: and everybody thought the world was coming.

1509
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: To an end. Well, Joe had the appendectomy, right, yeah.

1510
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And now they say he was running on the

1511
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: sidelines the other day and he's passing the football. But

1512
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: who knows. I don't know. They I don't leave everything

1513
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: they released, but you know, and they're not going to

1514
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: come out publicly and say he's not going to play

1515
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: Opening Day in Cleveland. But again, even if they lose

1516
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,839
Speaker 2: that game without him in Cleveland, it doesn't mean anything,

1517
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: you know. I know it's a divisional game, but you know,

1518
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: you can start off oh and two and still have

1519
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: a successful year. You can.

1520
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the the numbers have shown that started.

1521
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: Oh and two you make the playoffs at a much

1522
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: lower percentage anything else.

1523
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that. All right, let's move on.

1524
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: Let's have a little fun right now. He's Jeff Schwartz

1525
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: im Andy Furman. We are Fox Sports Sunday and Fox

1526
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. The game that never gets old. We call

1527
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 2: it bottom barrel betting. You know what, it's freaking next,

1528
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: bottom barrel betting right around the bed about eleven minutes

1529
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: now before the top of the hour. He's Jeff Schwartz

1530
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: and Andy Furman, and this is Fox Sports Sunday and

1531
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,919
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio live from the Tairaq dot Com studios.

1532
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: It's his game. He's dominating it right now. So let's play.

1533
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: Let's do it. It's bottom Bear wanting to sleep. People,

1534
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 2: get my money.

1535
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: I'll put your brain to sleep.

1536
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 7: Daddy, Yes it is.

1537
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: And our host to one and only, Shay Say, how

1538
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: are you, Shay?

1539
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 7: She I'm doing great. Good morning, guys. Let's get the

1540
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 7: skin going. Yeah right, all right, So Scott Taylor has

1541
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,799
Speaker 7: taken on Darryl Pilgrim in the Modus Super Series. Odds

1542
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 7: Darts Tournament. The match starts at four thirty five am

1543
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 7: Pacific Standard time tomorrow. Taylor is set at minus one

1544
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 7: twenty and Pilgrim is set up minus one ten money line.

1545
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 7: Who you guys taking?

1546
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 3: I thought the name Pilgrim. I'll play Pilgrim.

1547
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: The wait before we before we could, Tine, do you

1548
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 2: know anything about this, Jeff? Have you studied this?

1549
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 4: No?

1550
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: Jeff? Can you sound real confident about this?

1551
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 3: So I just said, I like the name Pilgrim.

1552
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm taking Taylor. I'm taking I like to name Taylor,

1553
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: all right, do me something. Oh, Scott Taylor, he's my guy.

1554
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 7: Alright, move on today at seven am Pacific Standard time,

1555
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 7: the big are taking on the moves in the thunder

1556
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 7: Pick World Championship Europe.

1557
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 3: The what the big?

1558
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 4: No?

1559
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: I I the thunder Pick.

1560
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 7: The thunder Pick.

1561
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 3: What is that?

1562
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 7: So it is a tournament in Europe.

1563
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 3: It is a crypto what is it?

1564
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 7: Thunder Pick World Championship in Europe? It is a darts

1565
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 7: it's a dark start. Okay, yeah, okay, that's you a thing, baby.

1566
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm really a big darts guy.

1567
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 7: So the bigger plus one eighty eight, while Moves is

1568
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 7: minus two sixteens.

1569
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 3: Always I'm always taking an underdog on this. Let's do it,

1570
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: let's do it.

1571
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm going with big by the way before

1572
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: we continue. Who won last week? We didn't.

1573
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 7: We didn't do that.

1574
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: We skipped, we were too busy something else.

1575
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 7: It was the US women's national team.

1576
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure they all right.

1577
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: Next, that's been a week ago. Wow, yeah. Yeah.

1578
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 7: So the International Handball Championships for under nineteen is kicking

1579
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 7: off today. Croatia is taking on Egypt at eight thirty

1580
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 7: am Pacific Standard time. Croatia is coming into the match

1581
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 7: minus one eighty six, while Egypt is coming into the

1582
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 7: match plus one ninety.

1583
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: You guys got I feel like Andy growing up in

1584
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: New York. He's he's a big, big handball guy for.

1585
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: Something handball in Corney, Allen. I'll tell you that.

1586
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, really was. So who do you got? I'll let

1587
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 3: you go first to Egypt.

1588
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: I just think that they're quicker for some reason. I

1589
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: don't know, why go with Egypt. They get their results

1590
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: for his Stuffatia Bravada.

1591
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 7: Bavada's great, all right, but yeah, So the Welsh Fire

1592
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 7: taking on the Trent Rockets in the one hundred Cricket League.

1593
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 7: The match starts on the fourteenth at ten thirty a m.

1594
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 7: Pacific Standard time. Welsh Fire is that set at minus

1595
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 7: one oh five while the Trent Rockets are at minus

1596
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 7: one twenty five. Who you got, oh.

1597
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: Give me the uh, give me the rockets here, they're

1598
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: gonna rocket the the uh? Would you say we're playing here?

1599
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 7: It was the Welsh Fire and the Trent Rockets.

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: No, what what sport the cricket Oh they're gonna they're

1601
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 3: gonna rock.

1602
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 2: Make a difference really?

1603
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 3: Oh for my punnet was I don't say they're gonna

1604
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: rock at the cricket ball.

1605
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: Oh it makes you get the Rockets? You got the Rockets? Yeah,

1606
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: go with the Fire. I like the Welsh Fire, I

1607
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 2: really do.

1608
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: The Welsh Fire guy I figured that.

1609
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I never heard of them, but I kind

1610
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: of liked.

1611
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 7: And then last one here, Milan Regner is taking on

1612
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 7: Znik Kazinski in the Czech Republic Table Tennis Liga Pro.

1613
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: You know, I like to watch that now. I would

1614
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: watch that. Really, the way they play, they sell like

1615
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: five miles behind the table. It's unbelievable.

1616
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 7: Really, I'm a DJ when it comes to table tennis.

1617
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 7: But they're both minus one twe who you got?

1618
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: Oh see, this is how sportsbooks get you. They should

1619
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 3: not both be minus one twenty. That's ridiculous. That's how

1620
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: you get you at the vig right there, buddy, I jeez,

1621
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 3: I would pass it for both minus one twenty. Give

1622
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: me my choices.

1623
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 7: Again, it's Zednik Kazinski and Ron Record. Sure, I'll take

1624
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 7: that one Kazinski it.

1625
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 3: Is, and both sides is a joke.

1626
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 7: And it's such a random minus one twenty, so random,

1627
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 7: I'm gonna.

1628
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: Go them a lot. Now, Look, Jeff, you you like

1629
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: to put a couple of shekels down every now and again?

1630
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: Would you and all these events we just discussed, would

1631
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: you bet on any single one of these?

1632
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, I bet on all of

1633
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 3: them I could find on the internet. I told you

1634
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 3: I did that. I don't know if they wont or not,

1635
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 3: but I bet on them. Yeah.

1636
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: Wow, Well you did that because obviously you were involved

1637
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,879
Speaker 2: in It was a it was an inchest But we'll continue.

1638
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: By the way, why aren't these teams welcome? That had

1639
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: so much more? Right here on Fox Sports Sunday next

1640
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in, that's coming right out. Good

1641
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: morning America. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Ready.

1642
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: He is Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman, and we are

1643
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the ti rack dot Com studios. Tyrack

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1647
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: buying should be Jeff Schwartz. I get the feeling tell

1648
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. I get the feeling that although

1649
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 2: the NFL is basically right at our doorstep right now,

1650
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 2: there's not much news, not much meat. We were kind

1651
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: of speculating what's going to happen with the Russell Wilson's

1652
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: of the world. Chan pay right and I don't want

1653
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: to bore you. I read, but you've been there, done that,

1654
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: played eight years. I don't want to bore you with that.

1655
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to do something that it's right in your

1656
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: in your meat, in your meat and potatoes. It's college football.

1657
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: You're the voice on a PAC twelve, and I want

1658
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 2: to get into what's going on with this college football realignment.

1659
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 2: No one knows it better than you. You're on top

1660
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: of it. Am I right down the wait, did I

1661
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: hit that on the head that with this NFL? I

1662
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: just I don't. I don't want to bore you. You're

1663
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: my friend, I love you to death.

1664
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm not it is. It is a lot of just

1665
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 3: like you know, we're just to go through I'm gonna

1666
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 3: same thing. I mean, my podcast, We're going through every division.

1667
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 3: But that's part of it's part of the you know,

1668
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 3: the NFL preview cycle. I'm ready. So I'm happy there's

1669
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 3: actual games because we could talk about things that we

1670
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 3: see on the field.

1671
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: Right, No, you're you're exactly right. And look, you watch

1672
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: these games and you can't tell much and by the

1673
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: third or fourth quarter there's guys out there you'll never

1674
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: see again. So just as the way it is. But

1675
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: the college thing is a big story, the real problems

1676
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: in college realignment. And you know as well as I do,

1677
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 2: it's all about the money. They're talking about.

1678
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: Now.

1679
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: Four ACC schools are against dating cal and Stanford coming

1680
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: to the ACC. Just the thought of like having col

1681
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: Or Stanford traveling from the West Coast to play an

1682
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: ACC school to me is mind boggling. I don't get it.

1683
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 2: Help me out with this.

1684
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 3: Well, the location of your school does not determine your

1685
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,440
Speaker 3: conference anymore, right, I mean, look at you know, Arizona's

1686
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: gonna have to travel to Orlando will play games. Oregon's

1687
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 3: gonna have to travel to Rutgers to play games, right,

1688
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 3: I mean that's just to New Jersey. Like this is

1689
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 3: this is what the sport is now. You know, there's

1690
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: no allegiance at all to location, uh to tradition to

1691
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: so you know, Callen Stanford having to travel and and

1692
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 3: and a remind you, guys, this is not the travel

1693
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: concerns are not about football. It's about other sports. Because

1694
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: in football, you'll fly in and fly out, end of story. Like,

1695
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: you play your game, you go home. You are a

1696
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 3: chartered plane, your everything's taking care for you. It's the

1697
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 3: other sports, the Olympic sports have to travel multiple times.

1698
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean football, you know a conference you know you'll play,

1699
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: you play five five road games in a year, right,

1700
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 3: most teams will play a bunch of home games because

1701
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: they're good enough, and you play five like it's not

1702
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: a problem. It's a problem for Olympic sport athletes. And

1703
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: so I hope that we understand that that's what discussion

1704
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: is about.

1705
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: So you're tell them, So, how does Clemson play Stanford

1706
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: in soccer?

1707
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 3: I mean really, well, so you would I think what

1708
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 3: would happen is.

1709
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: You would.

1710
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: If you're Stanford, you'd fly the East Coast and you

1711
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: would you would play Clemson, North Carolina, North Carolina State Duke,

1712
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 3: and Wake Forest all in like a two week stretch.

1713
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: So you're not going to school for two weeks.

1714
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: Well you're not. But now with the you know, the

1715
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: ability to do this online, it makes it a little

1716
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 3: bit easier, right. I mean, my kids did no online

1717
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 3: school and then all of a sudden COVID happened. Now

1718
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: they're set up to do online you know, anytime they

1719
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: need to, Like if there's a heeb there's never a

1720
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 3: snow day, but let's say there is. They could just

1721
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: get on their iPads and do a day of schooling.

1722
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that's what you have to do.

1723
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 3: It's not ideal, but you make it work for the

1724
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 3: Olympic Sports and then Clemson would fly out. I guess

1725
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 3: the travel actually would be worse for the teams going

1726
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 3: to the West Coast because you only have two teams

1727
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: to play. If you're a Stanford or cal and you're

1728
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 3: traveling to you know, you know east, you have a

1729
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 3: multiple multit of teams. You can play in regions. Right,

1730
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: you can even go from the Carolinas, go play Virginia,

1731
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 3: Go play Virginia Tech. I mean you used that for

1732
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 3: a month and play all your games out on the

1733
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 3: East coast if you wanted to, and then fly back

1734
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 3: and play the games in Florida, right, Like, there's an

1735
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 3: opportunity to do those to do that trip. You play

1736
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 3: you know, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, pitt and you come

1737
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 3: home for two weeks and then you come back after Carolinas.

1738
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it makes a little bit of sense

1739
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 3: if it's that direction. The other way is really hard

1740
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 3: because to fly all the way the you know, if

1741
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 3: you're a volleyball team, to fly all the way on

1742
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 3: a on a commercial airline all the way to the

1743
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 3: West coast to just play Stanford and col is ridiculos us.

1744
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 3: Now Stanford fits the a CEC a little bit better, right,

1745
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean with Duke and wake Forest and some of

1746
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 3: the Virginia, some of the academic institutions correct that. We

1747
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 3: it makes a little bit of sense. But again, the

1748
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: travel is ridiculous, and this is not considered. All we

1749
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: talk about what's good for the sports, about football, and

1750
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: this decision're only made about football, and it's you know,

1751
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 3: it's none of this is fun, man. I mean, no

1752
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 3: one likes no one likes this. It's just it's where

1753
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 3: we're at with with you.

1754
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: You're the PAC twelve expert, You're the inside. You do

1755
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: PAC twelve on radio every single day. They got four

1756
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: teams left. Where are they going? What are they going

1757
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: to do? What? What's the talk with the back twelve?

1758
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 3: So Oregon State and washing in Washington. I think we

1759
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 3: end up in the Mountain West, is my best guess.

1760
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 3: Stanford would rather never play sports again than ever move

1761
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 3: to the Mountain West, so that feels unlikely for them

1762
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 3: to do that. I don't I don't, to be honest

1763
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 3: with you, I don't know what Calen stanf are very interesting.

1764
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what happens to them. As I mentioned, like,

1765
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 3: I could serve a situation where Stanford's and ACC or

1766
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 3: Col's in acc They're not going to Mount West. I mean,

1767
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 3: cal athletically would fit well in the mount West, but

1768
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, just academically, just that that just doesn't feel

1769
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 3: like something they would want to do. Cal and Stanford

1770
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 3: of the Enigma, Man, I don't know what they do.

1771
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 2: You got to be you've got to be dying inside

1772
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: because you're a PAC twelve guy. You played for ore

1773
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: A Gun. It does, but the question is not where

1774
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 2: they're going. How did it happen? How did the PAC

1775
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: twelve deteriorate like this? Who made that happen? And why

1776
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: did it happen? Just and great institutions there and that's

1777
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 2: in that conference.

1778
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 3: Well, it's many mistakes over many years. So you know,

1779
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 3: going back to twenty ten, Larry Scott's knew on the

1780
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: job and he tried to get Texas and Oklahoma into

1781
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve. If you remember, it didn't happen because

1782
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 3: they were stubborn. They could have easily made it happen,

1783
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: but Texas won the Longhorn Network and ESPN through some

1784
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 3: more money their direction. The PAC twelve could have made

1785
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 3: it work, but they were so insistent on the Pactolve

1786
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 3: network being THEIRS and Texas had to be part of it.

1787
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 3: So you'll get Texas Oklahoma then you know a couple

1788
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 3: years later, Yeah, the yeah, the direct you know, you

1789
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 3: have the Direct TV saga where you just can't get

1790
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 3: PACTLVE network on direct on DirecTV, and you point, direct

1791
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: TV was was huge. Right now it's going to diminish

1792
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: now with Sunday Ticket leaving direct TV. But you know,

1793
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: I live in North Carolina. I have Direct TV for

1794
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: NFL Sunday Ticket. I didn't have Pack twelve network. A

1795
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't have Pac twelve network. In twenty eighteen,

1796
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: ESPN offered to buy Pack twelve network and they said no.

1797
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 3: They wanted to keep it in the house. Part of

1798
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 3: the issues with Pat twelve network were they never they

1799
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: never met the lofty expectations that it was that they

1800
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: set forth for it. Part of that, again was not

1801
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: getting on the right distribution plan, not being able to

1802
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 3: give it to the masses. So and then they tried

1803
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 3: to expand. More recently as the US, he said no.

1804
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: And most recently is this television deal right where they

1805
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 3: were they were offered thirty million dollars a year by ESPN.

1806
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 3: They said no because they believe they're worth fifty million

1807
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 3: dollars a year, which is ludicrous. I do not understand

1808
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: how they came up with that number. They had they

1809
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 3: paid for a media consulting company. They really hadn't done

1810
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 3: TV deals before like this in the college space. I

1811
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 3: don't know if that person that company led them astray,

1812
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 3: if the president's or valued themselves. I mean, look, there's

1813
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 3: arrogance the Patrol conference just just from the idea that

1814
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,879
Speaker 3: you know, the academic part of this makes the pactoral

1815
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 3: presidents feel like they're superior. It just does, right, And

1816
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve presidents really did no fault of their own.

1817
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: Quite honestly, you know, are very you know, very much

1818
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 3: academically inclined. They just don't care about football as much

1819
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 3: other schools do, some other conferences do, and so they don't,

1820
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 3: you know, their their focus is not on what can

1821
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 3: we do to make ourselves the best football conference. It's

1822
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 3: just not And in the end, obviously that hurts them

1823
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 3: because you know, they lost out on the opportunity to

1824
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 3: have basically have a conference right.

1825
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: Right, if you remember, I mean, I'm sure you remember this.

1826
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: When Larry Scott was the commissioner of the PAC twelve,

1827
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, I think he wanted to really get some exposure,

1828
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 2: didn't he put like a big sign in Times Square

1829
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: in New York City. Yeah, I don't know why he

1830
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: did that, but I guess he just wanted to get

1831
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: some exposure because I think part of the problem with

1832
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: the Patsov at that time is that the games began

1833
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 2: so late. The time factor, well, the time was a

1834
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: major factor.

1835
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 3: That's never going to change. There have to be games

1836
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 3: on that time of day. So like you can be

1837
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 3: upset about that, you can whine about it. That has

1838
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 3: to happen. The question is why was why were we

1839
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 3: so hesitant to have a better distribution plan. That's the problem.

1840
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 3: It's not that it's not that we weren't on TV networks.

1841
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 3: It's that we'd have just we have it. We weren't

1842
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 3: seen enough by everyone. That's the problem. And it's not

1843
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 3: that games are on late. It's like one or two

1844
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 3: games a week. Man, This is like a weird talking point.

1845
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 3: It's one or two games a week. They were on

1846
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 3: that late and guess what, Packed Off after Dark got

1847
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 3: really good ratings. People watched the Packed after Dark. That

1848
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: wasn't our problem. The problem was no one could see

1849
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 3: PAC twelve network like it's it's things like that that

1850
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 3: were the problem. It wasn't that we were on late.

1851
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 3: I mean that again, plenty of plenty of people watch

1852
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 3: those games. It was the lack of distribution. It was

1853
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 3: the lack of I think our president's really caring very

1854
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 3: very much about football in the end, over valuing our conference,

1855
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 3: you know, paying too much for San Francisco offices. It's

1856
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 3: like little things like that over over the over the

1857
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: time USC not being good for many years, I think

1858
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: really heard our conference. So it's it's many different things.

1859
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: It amazes me that now it is no longer about

1860
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 2: geographical rivalries. It is no longer about being in the

1861
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: same time zone. It's all about money. And I think

1862
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 2: fans realize that although some of these rivalries that used

1863
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 2: to be really really big will be no more. Like

1864
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma's Oklahoma State you know, they're gone right now,

1865
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: They're gone from that conference. But I think fans will

1866
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 2: appreciate some of these games that are happening right now

1867
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 2: with the expansion. But it just doesn't make any sense.

1868
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: It really doesn't. It makes sense for the for the coffers,

1869
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: the money being brought in, but it doesn't make any

1870
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 2: sense as far as schools traveling from place to place. Look,

1871
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 2: and I think I mentioned this to you once before.

1872
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 2: I think this should be an edict that no school

1873
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 2: can be in a conference that you're in two different

1874
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: time zones. It doesn't make any sense really.

1875
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's three different time zones because I mean the

1876
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 3: pat troll, the PATV wasn't two time zone. So that's

1877
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 3: it's more that you don't want it to be in

1878
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 3: three time zones, right, not too but no, I'm look man,

1879
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 3: it's about money. What what what the networks are banking

1880
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 3: on is that casual fans? So right, so let's say

1881
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 3: like USC is a bad example, Like they're there way

1882
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 3: during that they're replacing like Cal playing Stanford with like

1883
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 3: Penn State playing USC, and they're hoping that that that

1884
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 3: those extra games, now, those extra big games will get

1885
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: tire ratings that they're they're betting that those games with

1886
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 3: those those new matchups, those marquee matchups, and you're gonna

1887
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 3: get a lot more now, right, Oklahoma, Texas and then

1888
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 3: SEC the four PAC twelve schools in the Big ten,

1889
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 3: you have better games. They're banking that those better games

1890
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 3: are the reason why CAP fans want to watch now

1891
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 3: because they have me and you we're in a ready right, Yeah,

1892
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 3: it's they want to get a bigger fan base, a

1893
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,799
Speaker 3: more casual fan base to want to watch college football,

1894
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 3: and they're banking that it will happen with more marquee

1895
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 3: matchups each week, which.

1896
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: Is I may be mistaken. I haven't seen the schedules

1897
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 2: come out yet, but won't some of these games go

1898
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: head tohead with other games at the same time?

1899
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 3: Maybe, but probably unlikely because well, okay, so Fox, NBC

1900
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 3: and CBS have the Big Ten, right right, ESPN has

1901
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: the ACC and the Big twelve. You know, there's obviously

1902
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 3: no PAC twelve really to worry about any after twenty

1903
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 3: twenty four. I mean, the SEC's on ESPN. I think too.

1904
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 3: They might, they might cross over, but you're probably not

1905
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 3: gonna get that much. I mean, you're gonna have a

1906
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 3: weekend where you're gonna have Penn State play USC and

1907
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 3: then Oklahoma play LSU, like back to back, like you know,

1908
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: three thirty eastern eight eastern, right, I mean, it's gonna

1909
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 3: be pretty awesome, dude, It really will be. Originally again, it's.

1910
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 2: It does and the local rivalries have be gone. But

1911
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 2: I want to if you don't mind, I like to

1912
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 2: continue because I got a couple more questions. I know

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Speaker 2: you have the answers, because it's great to get your

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Speaker 2: feeling on this because you're there. I mean, you do

1915
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Speaker 2: it every day, and you played in the conference. You

1916
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Speaker 2: have a feeling for the conference, and you know what's

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Speaker 2: going on with the conference. So we're gonna continue with

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Speaker 2: this because I really want to get this and if

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Speaker 2: anybody wants to call us on it, that's eighty seven

1920
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Speaker 2: seven ninety eight on Fox. I'm sure there's people who

1921
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Speaker 2: are big college football fans won't know what's going on

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Speaker 2: because Jeff Schwartz does have the answers eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine or at Jeff

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Speaker 2: Schwartz on Twitter or at Andy Furman FSR. They've got

1925
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Speaker 2: the blame game at the bottom of the ARRA. So

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Speaker 2: we will continue. I got some questions for Jeff Schwartz

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Speaker 2: on this college movement right here. Stay with us next

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Speaker 2: trying to grow. Okay, we'll get to that in just

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Speaker 2: about a minute. It's about twenty three minutes past the hour.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sport's ready, here's

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman, and we are live from

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Speaker 2: the Tiraq dot com studios and Jeff Schwartz, the expert

1933
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Speaker 2: on college expand I know it's with the PAC twelve

1934
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Speaker 2: network and with Fox during the week as well. But

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Speaker 2: here's the question I have for you, and I don't

1936
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Speaker 2: even know if there is an answer. We talked about

1937
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Speaker 2: Florida State is among four ACC schools against dating Callen

1938
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Speaker 2: Stanford to the ACC. Okay, the schools that are against that,

1939
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Speaker 2: Florida State mentioned, North Carolina, Clemson, NC State. Question I

1940
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Speaker 2: have for you because I have no idea why why

1941
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Speaker 2: would those schools be opposed to expansion in the ACC

1942
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Speaker 2: Because those schools would not get financial a gain to

1943
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Speaker 2: the bottom line coming to the conference anyway, Callen Stanford, Well.

1944
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Speaker 3: It would dilute the shares for so Florida State is

1945
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Speaker 3: already upset.

1946
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Speaker 2: They want to get out.

1947
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Speaker 3: They don't have enough money. They believe on their TV

1948
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Speaker 3: deal and they want to get more money. Well, if

1949
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Speaker 3: you add more teams to the ACC, the probabil that

1950
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Speaker 3: you get more money is less right. You actually would

1951
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Speaker 3: get less money unless ESPN and Fox decide to up

1952
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Speaker 3: the deal. And we know that to get Oregon in

1953
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Speaker 3: Washington into the Big Ten, Fox had to give the

1954
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Speaker 3: Big ten more money because the the the teams did

1955
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Speaker 3: not want to dilute their shares to add Oregon in Washington.

1956
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Speaker 3: So Florida State and North Carolina is they don't want

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Speaker 3: to dilute their current share to add those schools. Right.

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Speaker 3: If ESPN were to say, hey, we'll chip in the

1959
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Speaker 3: money to pay for those schools to join the conference

1960
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Speaker 3: at a reduced rate, I think they would be all

1961
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Speaker 3: for it. But Florida State wants to break up the

1962
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Speaker 3: a SEC anyways, like they're not in this to to,

1963
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Speaker 3: you know, to make sure that the AC states together.

1964
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Speaker 3: They want to leave as soon as possible.

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Speaker 2: They want to go the SEC.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, but people are mixed on whether or not

1967
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Speaker 3: they actually would get that invite, but they want to

1968
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Speaker 3: be gone. And so adding to teams I count Stanford,

1969
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Speaker 3: that's that's scream stability. They don't want stability, they want instability.

1970
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Speaker 2: They want it cuts the pioup even more so. In

1971
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Speaker 2: the words, if they're getting one hundred million dollars divided

1972
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Speaker 2: by fifteen teams, now it's one hundred million dollars divided

1973
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Speaker 2: by seventeen teams. Yes, yes, get easy, all right. So now,

1974
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Speaker 2: according to reports, the ACC is facing something like a

1975
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Speaker 2: thirty million dollar annual revenue gap with the SEC and

1976
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Speaker 2: the Big ten thirty million dollars less per team according

1977
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Speaker 2: to this report, as opposed to the SEC in the

1978
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Speaker 2: Big Ten. And you know what, rightfully, so, the SEC

1979
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Speaker 2: and the of the Big twelve probably the best. Well,

1980
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Speaker 2: I'd say the Big Twelve and the Big Ten. I'm

1981
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Speaker 2: not going to say the SEC is the best football

1982
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Speaker 2: conference from top to bottom. Should have got powerhouses in there,

1983
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Speaker 2: you know, Georgia and LSU. But but the point is

1984
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Speaker 2: that I think that maybe the Big Twelve were Big

1985
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Ten top to bottom is a better football conference and

1986
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Speaker 2: the ACC legs far behind. They really do.

1987
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Speaker 3: Yeah, We're exactly right, they do.

1988
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Speaker 2: It's crazy, but I just don't understand how how the

1989
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Speaker 2: television deal works with these teams, you know, and honestly,

1990
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Speaker 2: what's going to happen? And maybe on way off, based

1991
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Speaker 2: on this, I think eventually these schools will break away

1992
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Speaker 2: from the NCAA, form their own conferences whatever it may be,

1993
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Speaker 2: maybe four big conferences throughout the entire country, and cut

1994
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Speaker 2: their own deals. I mean, you know, Today cut their

1995
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Speaker 2: own deal years ago.

1996
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Speaker 3: But NBC, Yeah, but Notre Dame is a huge sell.

1997
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Speaker 3: You can't cut your own deal with the TV network.

1998
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Speaker 3: So I mean there's a lot of dead weight in

1999
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Speaker 3: these conferences.

2000
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that I get, but there's some strength

2001
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Speaker 2: in numbers, That's what I'm saying. I mean there is

2002
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Speaker 2: dead weight. Obviously, the Vanderbilts of the world. That's a

2003
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 2: dead weight, there's no doubt about that. But the conference

2004
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: as a whole, you know, could carry on. But again,

2005
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where this money is coming from.

2006
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Speaker 2: You when you see an entity like ESPN cutting their

2007
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Speaker 2: talent because there's no money, they're hurting and cutting a

2008
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Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of staffers, and now they're

2009
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 2: coming up with money for the for the deals, I

2010
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Speaker 2: don't understand where it's coming from.

2011
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Speaker 3: Buddy, If you ever noticed, there was no recession, so

2012
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Speaker 3: to claim that you have to cut jobs for a

2013
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Speaker 3: recession that never happened. I mean, ESPN and Fox have

2014
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Speaker 3: plenty of money for live for live television rights. They

2015
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Speaker 3: might not want to pay some of their personalities quite

2016
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Speaker 3: the same, but this this never the losing money thing

2017
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Speaker 3: never happened, so it they They always have money for

2018
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Speaker 3: TV rights, and.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll finally understand. I think you'll agree with this.

2020
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Speaker 2: If there's a good game on TV, no one cares

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Speaker 2: who the announcer is, people are gonna watch it. No

2022
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 2: one turns on a game for the announcer, correct. I

2023
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 2: mean these guys are making ridiculous money.

2024
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Speaker 3: I don't think so, But I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they do either. I think that people.

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Speaker 2: I think Network of Network people think they do. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you get guys that making ten million dollars a year

2028
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Speaker 2: to call a game on TV, which is absurd. I

2029
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: mean people will turn on a game if the game

2030
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Speaker 2: has been enough to watch and no one says, well,

2031
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Speaker 2: I'm not watching this because so and so is doing

2032
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Speaker 2: the game behind the microphone. That's not the case. People

2033
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Speaker 2: will watch it.

2034
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Speaker 3: Correct.

2035
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Speaker 2: If Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman were doing Ohio State Oregon,

2036
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 2: They're going to watch that game, even though they have

2037
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,719
Speaker 2: to go through the pain of hearing my voice.

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Speaker 5: Right.

2039
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Speaker 2: That's the way it is. Okay, what's happening now with

2040
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 2: SMU is now as a potential target with Stanford and

2041
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: Cal from the PAC twelve. I mean it's great. I

2042
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 2: mean SMU where they coming out of, really the American Association.

2043
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Speaker 3: They're in DFW and they're in Dallas, and that helps them.

2044
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess the market size that's it, You're right.

2045
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I don't know. You gotta change. Look,

2046
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 2: I get it with the NIL some of these coaches

2047
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: couldn't handle it, so they quit. You know. Really, I

2048
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 2: think coach Kate quit Duke coach coaching basketball at Duke

2049
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 2: because he couldn't adapt to the change, didn't want to

2050
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 2: didn't want to adapt to it. Really, you know Jay

2051
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: right at Villanova, I think he left. He didn't want

2052
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: to adapt to the change of NIL. But I think

2053
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 2: you have to adapt to the fact that these conferences

2054
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 2: are moving. That's the way it is right now. If

2055
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 2: you don't like it, I'm sorry, but that's just the

2056
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 2: way life is. You have to adapt to change, and

2057
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: a lot of people can't. A lot of people can't.

2058
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Speaker 3: Think. I think you're spot on. There's a lot of

2059
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 3: people have trouble with that all the time, not just

2060
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 3: not just you know, in college sports, but yeah, I

2061
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 3: think a lot of older coaches are having trouble with

2062
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 3: the new way college sports is run.

2063
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Speaker 2: Right, you know what, And it's not going to change

2064
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 2: just just the way it is. No, No, is it correct?

2065
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Are there a lot of problems

2066
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 2: with it? Yeah, I think the fact that a student

2067
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Speaker 2: athlete can make more than a coach. I scratched my head.

2068
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 2: God blessed these student athletes. They should have been paid

2069
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,520
Speaker 2: eons ago because they're the ones that bring in the attendants,

2070
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 2: they bring in the marketing, they bring in potential new

2071
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 2: students to the school. They do so much for the school.

2072
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: They should be paid, no doubt about that. But for

2073
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 2: them to make more money than a coach, I think

2074
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 2: there's something wrong there. I think they got to tweak

2075
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 2: this thing a little bit, this NIL, But I have

2076
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 2: no problem with it. I really don't. I mean the

2077
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 2: amount of sports, the Olympic sports, as you suggested, a

2078
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 2: lot of these athletes on the Olympic sports are making

2079
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 2: big money. It's not just football and basketball.

2080
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what you do about NIL, because

2081
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: you wouldn't. It's funny, man, you would never limit any

2082
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 3: other ones, like you would never have legislation to limit

2083
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 3: what we can make with me and you can make.

2084
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 3: But for some reason it's it's ruining college sports, which

2085
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 3: is of course, it's absolutely not ruining college sports. So

2086
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 3: like you just just let it be, like Nils, fine,

2087
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be adjusted. That's going to be

2088
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 3: changed to go legislation needed for it. It is, it is,

2089
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 3: It's fine as is. It's the free market. Let the

2090
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Speaker 3: free market decide what these guys should make.

2091
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm with you right there. Really it is what it is.

2092
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can make big time money and look,

2093
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, it's gonna change recruiting too,

2094
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: because if I'm a student autre, if I'm a five

2095
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 2: star football player, I don't want to go to Rutgers.

2096
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why not. Because it's a bad

2097
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 2: school or it's in a bad conference. You're in the

2098
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 2: metropolitan New York area, which is a lot harder for

2099
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 2: me to get NIL money. I would think, because you

2100
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 2: got pro teams there, I'll go into a college town

2101
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: where I could probably make big money. Right go to

2102
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Speaker 2: an LSU or oile state.

2103
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you can make the case that there's well,

2104
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 3: there's less interest in college sports in New York than

2105
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 3: anywhere else. I mean, but what teams are in New

2106
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 3: York that you're going to go play football for?

2107
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 2: Wait, where you're gonna play this army?

2108
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean USC has a robust NIL program

2109
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. I mean it's a I think I

2110
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 3: think if it's about do you care about you know,

2111
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 3: do you care about college sports, not whether or what

2112
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 3: city you live in.

2113
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the market sizes is a situation. If you

2114
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 2: go to a college town, I think there's more interest.

2115
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 3: Maybe like the problems in that town, but there's less

2116
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 3: there's less businesses, there's less money typically like what has

2117
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Speaker 3: more money? Still Water or Los Angeles for an io deals.

2118
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, but I'll come back and say there's

2119
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 2: more competition in LA because that money may be spent

2120
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 2: on the Clippers, did Lakers, the Dodgers, whatever it may be.

2121
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 3: I mean us he doesn't have a problem, So I'll

2122
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 3: put it like that, and US is I mean when

2123
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 3: USC is rolling. Though, to be fair, they're like if

2124
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Speaker 3: you were to rate all the teams, I think it's

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Speaker 3: like A. I think it's a. It's a Lakers town,

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 3: probably first than Dodgers and Trojans. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of how you went to Oregon.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of businesses are an R if

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Speaker 2: you if you are going right now, you're being recruited

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Speaker 2: right now to go to Oregon and you're going to

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Speaker 2: get some nil money, where do you go? I guess

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01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: a car dealer there and that's it. Then Nike, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: them all, Yeah, you're right, you're right about that. He's

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Speaker 2: trying to buy the Portland Trailblazers too.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he really is. I mean, that's just

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Speaker 3: I think it's just conjecture people think he might. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's eighty five. I don't think he's trying

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Speaker 3: to buy the Blazers.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what happens there, all right, but

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Speaker 2: you clean it up a little bit for me, So

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Really. Do anybody want to call on that?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven

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Speaker 2: nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine at Jeff Schwartze

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Speaker 2: and Andy Furman ephis So, by the way, they're down

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Speaker 2: three stars, how could they compete? That's next. But first,

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Speaker 2: our guy Kevin Wired with all your sports.

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Speaker 5: NFL preseason on Saturday, we had a few slate of

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Speaker 5: games as the Bills played the Colts to begin the day,

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Speaker 5: Buffalo winning at twenty three to nineteen.

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Speaker 2: However, the start of the game DeMar Hamlin.

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Speaker 5: He played in his first NFL game since his cardiac

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01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 5: arrest back on January second, so in a few short months,

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Speaker 5: he went from questionable whether he'd survived that incident to

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01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 5: being back on a football field playing just an absolutely

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01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 5: incredible recover for the Bill's safety. Bears and Titans, Chicago

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01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 5: wins at twenty three to seventeen. DJ Moore, their newest receiver,

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01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 5: a big play in his debut catch and run sixty

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01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 5: two yards for a touchdown. Jets with a shutout win

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Speaker 5: over the Panthers twenty seven to nothing. Jaguars over the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys twenty eight to twenty three. The Ravens. Probably the

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Speaker 5: safest money you can bet right now is the Baltimore

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Speaker 5: Ravens winning in the preseason. It's because they've now won

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Speaker 5: twenty four games in a row in the NFL preseason.

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Speaker 5: That is a record. They beat the Eagles on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: twenty to nineteen. Battle of Los Angeles, charges over the

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Speaker 5: Rams thirty four to seventeen. In the college ranks, ESPN

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Speaker 5: reporting that the negotiated resolution between Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 5: and the NCAAA over alleged recruiting violations has not actually

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Speaker 5: been approved by the NCAA Committee on Infractions, and that

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Speaker 5: leaves the timing of Harbaugh's suspension in doubt. The agreement

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Speaker 5: had Harbaugh serving a suspension for the first four games

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Speaker 5: of this upcoming season. NBA News ESPN with reports saying

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01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 5: the seventy six ers have pulled James Harden off of

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Speaker 5: the trading block and they'll try to get him to

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Speaker 5: show up to training camp. Harden is believed to be

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Speaker 5: upset with general manager Daryl Morey over the lack of

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Speaker 5: a long term contract. The Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: has some new members. Derektovitsky, Tony Parker, Pau Gasal, Dwayne

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Speaker 5: Wade all enshrined, while Greg Popovich also honored as a

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Speaker 5: head coach in the ceremonies last night in Springfield, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 5: saying some baseball scores from yesterday late night action on

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Speaker 5: the West Coast extra innings in Seattle, Orioles where they

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Speaker 5: won nothing win over the Mariners, Dodgers top the Rockies

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Speaker 5: four to one, Rangers over the Giants nine three, Diamondbacks

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Speaker 5: shut out there nlst rival the Padres three to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Becco, you guys, thanks, keV, have a great day.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: Were they lucky thirteen a year ago? Well we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in just about a minute. He's Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Ferman with Fox Sports Sonia, Fox Sports Ready,

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Speaker 2: dot Com. All right, here's the question of the day.

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Speaker 2: All right, No Dalvincook, no Adam Fieln, no Eric Kendricks,

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Speaker 2: no Zadarius Smith, no Patrick Peterson, no expectation that they're

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Speaker 2: gonna win thirteen games again, well, getting out scored over

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01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 2: the course of the season, and what about no expectation

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Justin Jefferson will ever get single? Okay, Well,

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01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen now with quarterback Kirk Cousins. I'm talking

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01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 2: about the Minnesota Vikings. This team right now, I think

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01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,919
Speaker 2: had a negative points spread last year. Right, the opponents

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01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: outscored them and they still won thirteen games. But look,

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01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: can Kirk Cousins survive? What's the story with the Minnesota Vikings.

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01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 2: I can't figure that team out and I don't think

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01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a winning record this year. I really don't.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so last year, we know that they were

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Speaker 3: really good at one score games, and if you cut

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01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 3: that in half, let's just say that even next year,

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01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 3: let's say they're like three and four and one score games,

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01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna win about nine or ten games. Right. I

2214
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 3: go back to the idea of the best quarterback in

2215
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 3: the division typically wins the division, and right now, Cousins

2216
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,799
Speaker 3: is the best quarterback in that division. The Vikings offense,

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01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 3: I think, well, we saw watching a quarterback series, and

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 3: this is very true. It does take a little bit

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01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 3: of time to figure out an offense. It takes about

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01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 3: half a season to sort of get things going in

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01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 3: the right direction, and Kevin O'Connell and Kirk Cousins both

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01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 3: mentioned that as a kind of an issue last season.

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01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 3: I really like the Jordan Addison addition a lot. I

2224
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 3: think that defensively, You're right that they need to get

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01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 3: better defensively, and I'm not really sure if they have

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 3: the dudes to do that. We'll find out, but I

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01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 3: think the Vikings are going to be better than that

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01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 3: we think. I know there's regression when it comes to

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01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 3: winning those close games. I get that, but the division

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01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 3: is not that great right now. And I think it's

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01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 3: kind of crazy to me that people are just so

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01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 3: on the Lions and they're like, yeah, Vikings whatever, Man,

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01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,600
Speaker 3: we have the best quarterback in division. That that that

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01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 3: is as simple as as it gets. Most of the time,

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01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 3: the best quartad division wins the division. Right.

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01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: But I will say this, last year they went eleven

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01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 2: to zero and one score games. All right, that ain't

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01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 2: gonna happen again.

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01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 3: Well, they went well, they yeah they I mean the

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Speaker 3: play I think it was like nine to oh the

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01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 3: playoffs they lost and being okay. But here's so I'm

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01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 3: gonna find their record because we talked about this of

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01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:43,560
Speaker 3: my podcast this week, we previewed the North divisions. Some

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01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 3: of those those one score games are tad misleading, right.

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01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 3: So for example, they played Arizon it was Arizona, right,

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01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 3: and they won thirty four to twenty six. And they

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01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 3: were up in that game, like thirty four to ten

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01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 3: and they were up, Sorry, they were up. That's not

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01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 3: the right game they were. That was a closer game.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of games where they the one score

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01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 3: thing was sort of like not not really accurate representation

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01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 3: of of what actually happened in the game. And they

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01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 3: also deserve some credit for being able to come back

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01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 3: on some of these games. So it's again, it's not

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Speaker 3: always indicative of of how the game result ended up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but look, they won

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Speaker 2: the division, they end upc North by four games. That's

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01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 2: not gonna happen easy again. And also, let's look at

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Speaker 2: the schedule. I get it with the kirk Couzes.

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Speaker 3: It's the Miami game. They're up twenty four to ten

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Speaker 3: with three minutes left. The Dolphins scored with a minute

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Speaker 3: left to make it a one score game. You know,

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01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 3: like that type of stuff. It's like, yeah, okay that

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01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 3: you know, that's really not INTICATMAR.

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Speaker 2: But they struggled with some bad teams last year. I

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01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: mean because they weren't all the time.

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Speaker 3: The defense wasn't as good. Like, no, they have legitimate concerns.

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Speaker 3: How in the season. I just think that we were

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Speaker 3: The people are way more excited about the Lions than

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Speaker 3: the Vikings. I find that a little bit, a little

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01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 3: bit a little over the top.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you right there, but I think that they

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01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 2: want to see the Lions do well because they've been

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 2: so bad for so long. But looka's on their schedule

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01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: this year Kansas City, Cincinnati, Philadelphia and the forty nine ers.

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01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 2: So that's tough. That could be four losses right there.

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Speaker 2: And I looked at last year's results and you're right

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01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 2: about the defense right there. Look, Dallas kicked their tail

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01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 2: pretty good forty to three last year. That game was

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Speaker 2: in November. They lost to Detroit last year thirty four

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01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: to twenty three. Indianapolis took them into overtime. Last year.

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01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 2: They did lose to Green Bay this second time on

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01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:41,640
Speaker 2: New Year's Day. So they struggled, although they managed to

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01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 2: win thirteen games. But you know what, they showed their

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01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 2: true colors in the playoffs with a giant speed in

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Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty four. That's what they did.

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, thanks are going to win the NFC. But

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01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 3: I think we're a little bit too high on them.

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01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's seen a little bit too low on them,

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Speaker 3: as my opinion.

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01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: There, they may not even made the playoffs.

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01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 3: That in the NFC, and they'll make the playoffs. Everyone's

2293
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 3: being fired they don't make the playoffs.

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01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 2: Right, you're right, I mean everybody everybody finds a team

2295
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 2: that they're in love with, and this year the team

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01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 2: that they were in love with is the Detroit Lions.

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01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. You know, they're everybody's favorite,

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01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 2: the ice cream flavor of the day. That's what they are.

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01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions. That's it. And you know what, I'm

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01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 2: on board. I want to see them win. I mean,

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01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 2: the fans of Detroit they deserve it. They've been down

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 2: for so long. I'd like to see the Lions win.

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01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 2: I really would. And I like Dan Campbell. I don't

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01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 2: know the guy, but I watched them on Hard Knocks.

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01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 2: I think it was last year. It's very intense, and

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01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 2: I like the guy. I think the I think these

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: players have bought in. They got good players, but it

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01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 2: takes a coach sometimes to really get the guys. Guys

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01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: to buy in. Thinking this this Eric be anymything that

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01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier today, you may be onto something.

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01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean, these players may be upset the yelling and

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01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 2: the screaming, the intensity that he has. They may eventually

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01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 2: buy in. If they win the first two three ball

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: games and then all of a sudden, he's a hero.

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01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: They dropped three of games in a row. Big time trouble,

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01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 2: big trouble because they'll blame it on him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's it perfect all right.

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Speaker 2: Now, speaking of yelling and screaming, we're gonna do that

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Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. Do you know why it's

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Speaker 2: time to point fingers? Why is that? Because the blame

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Speaker 2: game is next blame game coming right up hanging with

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Speaker 2: us about eleven minutes before the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: By the way, at the top of the hot it's

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock on the East coast. Mike Harmon and Dan Bayer.

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Speaker 2: What a combination that is. Harmon and Buyer nine am

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Speaker 2: on the East Coast right now, and we're live from

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Speaker 2: it's the blame game. Let's do it. You ruin me,

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01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 2: it's all your fault, it's your fault.

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Speaker 7: What is all your fault?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone's.

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Speaker 1: Fault's a liar, that's why there's the blame game.

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Speaker 2: The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. He's

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Speaker 2: a liar. Shy she he's a liar. Let's do it,

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Speaker 2: Sha sha, Let's.

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Speaker 7: Get right into it, all right, So we're gonna back

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Speaker 7: back off kind of this last hour you guys have

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Speaker 7: been talking about it. Who's to blame for the acc

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Speaker 7: not wanting cal or Stanford.

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Speaker 3: Economics, you know, just just a there's economic factor to this,

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01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 3: Like it's it's about money. It's all that simple. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to lose any money to add those teams.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's be quite honest. You know, what to blame

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01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 2: is being biggish, That's what it is. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to share my money with you I don't blame them.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame them. Really, it's fifteen teams in the league.

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Speaker 2: They share X amount of dollars. Now they'll be seventeen

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Speaker 2: teams in the league and they don't want to share

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Speaker 2: the same amount of money with them. So you've been

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01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 2: a pig being selfish. That's fine. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: it's more important for me to keep that money that

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Speaker 2: to make the conference grow. That's selfishness, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Talent Stanford made the conference that much

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Speaker 3: better though. That's if it was like Notre Dame. They're

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Speaker 3: being selfish about that then, But I don't think it

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Speaker 3: changes very much of of.

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Speaker 2: But it gives them more visibility. Now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: they become a conference on each coast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no one watches Talent, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm trying to defend the dACC. I

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01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 2: don't know why it's not a good conference. It really isn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Next, who's to blame for the controversy within the running

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01:57:58,360 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 7: back of contracts in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: The passing game, I don't know the teams that I

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Speaker 3: mean the passing game, I guess, right, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: the way the game is evolved, there's no like, I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's a terrible culprit other than that.

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Speaker 2: There is you know who it is. If you want

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Speaker 2: to play. Somebody blame Dan Marino because I've always felt

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Speaker 2: that Dan Marino was the godfather of the forward pass

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, and they started passing and passing more

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Speaker 2: and more and they said, you know what, we don't

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Speaker 2: need you, we don't need running backs. We can survive

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Speaker 2: without you guys. So that's basically it. All right, Dan Marino,

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Speaker 2: let's blame him, all right.

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Speaker 7: Next, who's to blame for the lack of no hitters

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Speaker 7: in the MLB?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 7: So, yeah, there was one this past week, but it's

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Speaker 7: with the with the pitch counts and the lower pitch

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01:58:58,080 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 7: counts and the amount of times the pitchers can actually

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Speaker 7: play a full game and just managers taking them out

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Speaker 7: too soon. No hitters are kind of extinct, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what they have now? They have this stupid rute,

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Speaker 2: the combined no hitters exactly those ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just hard to do it. In MLB history,

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Speaker 3: there's been like twenty four perfect games since the games

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Speaker 3: he plays is like eighteen eighty. It's just it's hard

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Speaker 3: to do well.

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Speaker 2: John Harbar said, it's the twenty four game consecutive winning

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Speaker 2: streak with the Ravens and exhibition game is like a

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Speaker 2: no hitter. It's just as good. That's status just as

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Speaker 2: good as a no hitter. So just talk to John

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Speaker 2: Harbo about that. I don't believe it.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's hard to I think baseball's

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Speaker 3: just hard.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, very hard, you know what, Johnny Vandermire, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I hate to be a historian here. Johnny Vandermir pitched

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Speaker 2: back to back no hitters for the Cincinnati Reds. I

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Speaker 2: think it was in the thirties, right that that record

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Speaker 2: will never ever be broken because to break that record,

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01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 2: you'd have to pitch three no hitters in a row.

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Speaker 2: Never gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: Next, kind of back backing off of that one. Who's

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Speaker 7: to blame for the low pitch counts in the MLB

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Speaker 7: this year?

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Speaker 3: What you guys aren't pitching? I am, I am. I

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Speaker 3: watched MLB, but I do not pay atention to pitch counts.

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Speaker 2: I think that the crazy uh analytics that manages follow

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Speaker 2: like the like the Aaron Boons of the world. Even

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Speaker 2: even the manager David Bell in Cincinnati. They just analytically,

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Speaker 2: that's what they do. They just look at the analytics

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Speaker 2: and they go, gotta go with your gut. Sometimes gotta

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Speaker 2: manage with your gut.

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Speaker 3: So doing well in Texas there you go go.

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Speaker 2: With your gut, you know, lefty righting situation, things like that. Anymore?

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Speaker 2: Is that it? Oh wow? Oh thank you for the staff. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: have a great week. We'll see you. God bless you.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us.