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Speaker 1: Welcome into What's burnon.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we need that, like breaking news did,

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Speaker 2: because like six seconds ago, the Sixers announced they are

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Speaker 2: firing Doc. Rivers one fifty four to eighty two regular

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Speaker 2: season record, but twenty.

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Speaker 1: And ten in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Sixers have lost in the second round five the past

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Speaker 2: six seasons, so this run actually predates Doc, but also

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Speaker 2: speaks to ownerships frustration levels. So just start, Matt, what

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Speaker 2: do you make of Doc getting fired?

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Speaker 3: Interesting? As someone who played for Doc, uh great motivator.

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Speaker 3: I feel like at time struggles with in game adjustments.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's been well documented all week before he

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Speaker 3: was fired. Just his his his record in closeout games,

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Speaker 3: or his team's blowing three to one, up three two

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Speaker 3: leads game seven, this last game seven. I mean it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: Doc as a coach, but you know, Embiid and Harden

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Speaker 3: played piss poor. I think they know that. I think

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Speaker 3: the world knows that, but I don't know. Rach. Doc

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Speaker 3: has has has been one of those very lucky coaches

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Speaker 3: that from the beginning, starting with t mac onto Boston

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Speaker 3: with two Hall of Famers, onto the Clippers with Blake

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Speaker 3: and Chris, onto seventy six ers, He's always found a

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Speaker 3: team that has at least one bona fide superstar, but two,

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Speaker 3: but his inability to get them over the hump. You know,

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Speaker 3: record very solid, but you know, with teams like that

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Speaker 3: and talent like that, you have to win championships or

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Speaker 3: at least get to the championship, and I think his

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Speaker 3: inability to do that with these very talented teams is

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Speaker 3: possibly why he was fired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's interesting you look at him big

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Speaker 2: picture and there's a lot of reasons why. Hey, this

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Speaker 2: may be justified, But in terms of the specific of

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Speaker 2: Game six in Game seven in this series, I mean,

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Speaker 2: his key players didn't play well down the stretch in

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Speaker 2: Game six, and by the way, if Jason Tatum didn't

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Speaker 2: happen to get hot at the end of that game,

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Speaker 2: the very big of the fourth quarter, this is a

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Speaker 2: different conversation. They win Game six at home, and they're

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Speaker 2: in the conference finals, and he still has his job

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure has his job for years to come.

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Speaker 2: And then game seven, they lose a Game seven on

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Speaker 2: the road against the team that made the NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: last year, that was the number one seed for much

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Speaker 2: of the season this season, with a transcendent performance from

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Speaker 2: a legit star in Jason Tatum. I believe, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he got over fifty, but I believe the way he

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Speaker 2: scored it hadn't ever been done before. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: so many things that had to happen for them to

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Speaker 2: get this result.

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Speaker 1: It just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I always worry when we just are quick to fi

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Speaker 2: our coaches, who are you going to get to replace him?

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Speaker 2: Is that person going to actually be better? And we

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Speaker 2: at least have a good free agent class of coaches.

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Speaker 2: I guess you've got Nick narse MONI Williams out there,

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Speaker 2: Mike Budenholtzer. You've also got openings, though it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of musical chairs. Milwaukee, Phoenix, Philly, Detroit, Toronto. Who

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Speaker 2: do you think is the best candidate and what do

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Speaker 2: you think is the best job?

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Speaker 3: Real quick before I get there. It's hard racing because

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Speaker 3: I think, like you said, you know, these guys didn't

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Speaker 3: show up and play, you know. But I think often

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Speaker 3: that the coach is the scapegoat because you're paying James

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Speaker 3: and obviously Embiid who is their cornerstone so much money,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So I think they think

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Speaker 3: that the coach is always going to be a quick fix,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes it is, but sometimes it isn't. Back to

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Speaker 3: your question, best opening was that the question, Uh, Milwaukee,

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Speaker 3: you know you got Jannis, you have your entire core built.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously they have some decisions to make with

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Speaker 3: Brook Lopez, but I think these guys have been making

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Speaker 3: solid runs the last few years. They've got more time

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Speaker 3: to rest this year and come back healthy next year.

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Speaker 3: So you know, obviously that Milwaukee job is enticing. The

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Speaker 3: Philly jobs enticing. The Phoenix job is enticing. Uh, there's

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Speaker 3: a there's a lot of open spots with open talent,

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Speaker 3: so it'd be interesting to see who goes where. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, is it is the coach the

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Speaker 3: fix or is it the personnel having to do their

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Speaker 3: job as players, uh to get themselves there? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean I think we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: one more second, though, Because there was speculation that some

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Speaker 2: of the Doc move was made in part to please

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Speaker 2: James Harden, he made it clear after Game seven he

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Speaker 2: wasn't a great fan. He was asked about the relationship

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Speaker 2: He fumbled around for a little bit, then he finally

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: Harden has a player option of thirty five point six million. Remember,

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Speaker 2: even if he ops out, he can resign with Philly.

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Speaker 2: They could offer him actually the most money of any

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Speaker 2: team out there. But Matt, you've heard those persistent rumors

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Speaker 2: he's considering a return to Houston. Also, if you're James Harden,

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Speaker 2: what would you do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, not only Houston, but where he played college

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Speaker 3: ball in Phoenix, you know what I mean? And possibly

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Speaker 3: teaming up with Kevin duran again without the Kyrie Irvin drama.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, again, I don't know this

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Speaker 3: Philly trust. The process has been ten years in the

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Speaker 3: making and hasn't necessarily came anywhere. And then you know,

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Speaker 3: you know Jimmy Butler's you know, they picked Obias Harris

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Speaker 3: over me, and you know, personnel decisions left and right

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Speaker 3: that haven't necessarily benefited them. Phoenix, Uh, you know, they

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Speaker 3: were high on everyone's list this year in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: and you know, even though they had to unload the

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Speaker 3: whole house to get Kevin Durant, you know, a healthy

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Speaker 3: possibly a healthy Chris Paul could change his dynamics. But

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Speaker 3: you think about you slide of James Harden, who's a

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Speaker 3: twenty ten guy in Chris Paul's spot that brings a

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Speaker 3: whole new dynamic to Philly or excuse me, to Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Houston is a mystery to me. Obviously he had a

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Speaker 3: great time there and not only in the community. Excuse me,

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Speaker 3: not only on the court was he rocking, but in

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Speaker 3: really just giving, getting back in the community and helping people.

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Speaker 1: A love the community is Yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, he had a good time. But that is a

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Speaker 3: team that you know, we'll talk about it later. Could

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Speaker 3: possibly get the number one pick with Victor, and you

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Speaker 3: add James and Victor with that young core, that'd be

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Speaker 3: interesting to see. But I don't know, you know, I

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Speaker 3: hate to guess where he would be. But to me,

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Speaker 3: it looks like if there's an opportunity to go to Phoenix,

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Speaker 3: that would be an amazing, amazing situation for I think

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Speaker 2: Look, Phoenix to me is the one where I do

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Speaker 2: not I just I don't understand what they were doing

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Speaker 1: Williams. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the roster money was working with,

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Speaker 2: especially after Chris Paul went down.

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Speaker 1: How do you blame coaching for.

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Speaker 2: Them losing to the number one seed in the West

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Speaker 2: when they gave away all of their depth to get

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, which, by the way, I'm fine with. I

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Speaker 2: think if you have a chance to go get Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: you go get Kevin Durant. But then you can't expect

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Speaker 2: to win that season before you have the off season

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Speaker 2: to sort of retool.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was. I didn't like that one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think too. I think his winning percentage

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Speaker 3: is over seven hundred, which is insane, and you look

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Speaker 3: what he's been able to do with that team. The

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Speaker 3: injury to Chris Paul, DeAndre Ayton either quittin or I

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Speaker 3: don't even know what you want to call it, but

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Speaker 3: you know the way that Book and Kad went out

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Speaker 3: there and gave their all. And like you said, Rach,

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Speaker 3: you know, a trade mid season and you expected to

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Speaker 3: instantly bloom flowers with key guys either being hurt or

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Speaker 3: not performing is an unreasonable expectation. So I think out

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Speaker 3: of all the coaches who were fired, I'm with you

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Speaker 3: that one was the one that made the least amount

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Speaker 3: of sense. But you know what we also think, you know,

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Speaker 3: Aidan and Mani Williams, that hasn't been no secret they

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Speaker 3: have not got along and you know not. You don't

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Speaker 3: even have to be in the locker room to know that. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: they give Ate and a bunch of money last year

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Speaker 3: and again come playoff time, you see this guy not

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Speaker 3: slapping people's hands and not performing and on the end

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Speaker 3: of the bitch pouting. Maybe that was something to hopefully

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Speaker 3: wake Aiden up because they have given him a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of money. Now we got the coach out the way,

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Speaker 3: you know, what are you gonna do? So again, I'm

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Speaker 3: with you, that was probably the worst, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: It made no sense to me.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, there's multiple reports out there that

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Speaker 2: they are aggressively shopping Ayton, So in terms of the

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Speaker 2: relationship between the two of them, I don't get why

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Speaker 2: they would. Certainly, you know, if they want to try

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Speaker 2: to keep James Harden in Philly, and this is a

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Speaker 2: because you know, it doesn't seem like those two are

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it does make sense to get

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Speaker 2: rid of Ayton. I still have faith in Ayton as

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like it's going to be in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: So if that's the case, trade him get back some

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Speaker 2: parts that can add depth. Same thing with Chris Paul.

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Speaker 2: He's got that balloon payment basically coming right now. Fifty

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Speaker 2: million of the salary is guaranteed, but if he gets

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Speaker 2: million is guaranteed. Thirty million plus. So they are going

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Speaker 2: to be looking to see what they can get for

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Speaker 2: him too. And that's the case, by the way, hey,

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Speaker 2: where they might get the same amount of salary back.

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Speaker 2: But in players who are multiple players role players guys,

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Speaker 2: so if one guy has hurt, the other guy might

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Speaker 2: still be their depth. It's all crazy idea depth.

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Speaker 3: And rach too. You know, if I'm not mistaken, Aiden

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Speaker 3: being from Arizona going to school at Arizona now playing

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Speaker 3: for the Phoenix Sun. Sometimes you need to get up

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Speaker 3: out of that bubble, you know what I mean, Get

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Speaker 3: out of the bubble, not have all these yes men

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Speaker 3: Maybe a new situation because I agree. I mean we

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Speaker 3: talked about this. I think last week on KG certified.

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Speaker 3: Aiden is very, very, very talented and an array of

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Speaker 3: moves on the offensive end, someone who can block shots,

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Speaker 3: be a rim protector, lob threat, mid range po He

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Speaker 3: can do it all. But I just think he's a

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Speaker 3: little too comfortable where he's at and there's probably the

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Speaker 3: wrong kind of influences in his ear pointing the finger

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Speaker 3: at everyone but him. And I think a new surrounding,

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Speaker 3: as you said, can can serve him well because he

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Speaker 3: is a very talented, young big.

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Speaker 2: That team has so much potential to me, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you've got Katie and Book, You've already got the secret,

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Speaker 3: No, I was going to say, obviously, you get rid

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Speaker 1: You didn't tell me who you think the best candidate

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Speaker 3: I would just love to see rach uh. You saw

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Speaker 2: Well, I know he's been interviewing again that teams have

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Speaker 3: Good team rach, I don't recall this many good teams

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Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of teams that you know, you

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Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, Well, we got another team that is not

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Speaker 2: Recently Grizzlies, by the way, suspended him from all team activities.

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Speaker 2: That's AIG shoe with Nike. I mean, what was your

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Speaker 3: You can't be this dumb little homie. You just can't.

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Speaker 3: stand by him the first time around. We're standing strong

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Speaker 3: So now you're jeopard Ody's not only money that you

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Speaker 3: You're forcing other people's hands. You're forcing Nike sand What

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Speaker 3: Just enjoy the moment. I think so often people always

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Speaker 3: They either got to spend it or show and like,

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Speaker 3: I feel like you know to who much is given

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Speaker 3: So again, if you're his friend, you're in his circle,

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Speaker 3: That's like shooting yourself. That's like Cheddarboom from eight Mile,

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Speaker 2: said it out loud in front of a bunch of people.

434
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Speaker 2: He doesn't feel apparently accountable though to anyone in eight

435
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 2: game suspension at the end of this past season that

436
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 2: didn't do it, what would you do if you were

437
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 2: Adam Silver in the league office?

438
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Speaker 1: What do you think would get the message.

439
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Speaker 3: I would hate to be in this position because I

440
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 3: think Adam Silver by all means, people thought Adam Silver

441
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 3: let him off easy the first time with a slap

442
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 3: on the wrist. He went to this so called rehab

443
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 3: program that did he really go or not? Is that

444
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 3: just you know? Is that you know? Is that glittering lights?

445
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 3: I initially said twenty five to thirty games, but Adam

446
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 3: Silver may may have to make a statement this time

447
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 3: and really show him that he's not fucking around. And

448
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: Adam is the one commission that will do that. You know,

449
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 3: he will make a statement and it'll be unfortunate if

450
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 3: he goes half a season. I mean, think about again,

451
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 3: you're losing your own money and endorsements, but now you're

452
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: fucking up your team bro, you know so I don't

453
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 3: expect it to be any less than thirty games. I

454
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: hope it's in that twenty to thirty range. But again,

455
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 3: Adam may feel like he has to. You know, Adam

456
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 3: is a good dude. And if you sit down and

457
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: look him in the eyes and tell him everything you

458
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: you know, he feels you learned and then you you

459
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: basically joh lied to Adam's face.

460
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Speaker 2: So how is they just did that. He just sat

461
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: as complete disrespect.

462
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see what Adam does. I'm

463
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 3: hoping for the lesser just because you know, this kid

464
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 3: has so much potential, you know what I mean. So

465
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: it's gonna be ugly. I think it's going to be

466
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 3: anywhere from twenty to half the season. I hope it's

467
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: not like a real smack in the face and he

468
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: says you're done for the season, because that would you know,

469
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: that would hurt a lot of a lot of people involved.

470
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Speaker 3: So I'm hoping somewhere in that twenty to forty range,

471
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Speaker 3: but hopefully closer to the twenty side.

472
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Speaker 2: I mean, I want joy out on the court. He's

473
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 2: one of my favorite players to watch. It sucks for

474
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: all of us, by the way. The fans lose too

475
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: when John Moran is off the court. That is a fun,

476
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: competitive team. He does things every night that are just

477
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: so fucking highlight worthy you want. I mean, it gets

478
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 2: you up off your couch. But he's the one who's

479
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: taken this away from himself. It's not Adam Silver who's

480
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: going to be taken it away. It's not the people

481
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: out there who are critical of him, who are taken away.

482
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Speaker 1: As you said, he told on himself. He's the one

483
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Speaker 1: making these decisions and.

484
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Speaker 3: He got I mean again, outside of missing forty million,

485
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: which is no one wants to give away, he's got

486
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: to really you know, with me coaching like he's got

487
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 3: a really dope shoot, you know what I mean, and

488
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: and seeing kids how much they love him and look

489
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 3: up to him, and knowing that his shoe will go

490
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 3: quick because Kyrie had a shoot that was going crazy.

491
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: So you saw John that and Jah's that new wave.

492
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 3: His shoe is gonna go crazy, and you just think

493
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: he's just fucking all this up for look look at

494
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: me type shit. Like again, it's not on the floor

495
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: on the floor, he's incredible, it's off the floor, young

496
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 3: immature shit. That is going to end up hopefully not

497
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: having this guy out of the league, but just hindering

498
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 3: him and his team and his family and his community.

499
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Speaker 2: This is gonna be interesting to see what Nike does too,

500
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 2: by the way, because because of the Kyrie decision, yes,

501
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: they're more dependent on jaw, so I would expect them

502
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: to give him even a little bit more room.

503
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Speaker 1: But we'll have to see. I don't know, sor right,

504
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: let's talk him actual basketball, Matt, I don't know what

505
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: you thinks. Should we do that.

506
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 2: Celtics heat Eastern Conference Finals repeat from last season? We

507
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: know last year it came down to seven, but right

508
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: to the wire, right, he'd have always played the Celtics tough.

509
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: They're two and two this season.

510
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: Do you think the number eight seed in Miami's unlikely

511
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: postseason run ends here? Or is Butler in company the

512
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: perfect batchup to take out the Celtics.

513
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 3: It almost seems like Dalton Jimmy Butler and and and

514
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: Don't get this misconstrued, but it's like Doubton Lebron at times,

515
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 3: like don't ever doubt Lebron. Jimmy Butler has shown I

516
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: mean he's not Lebron. I'm not saying he's Lebron, but

517
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: he's one of the most competitive grinders, blue collar superstars

518
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: we've ever had that can will his team to where

519
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: they need to go. Considering the injuries and and and

520
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: they lost their first game in the playing, didn't they.

521
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean the skin of the skin of

522
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Speaker 2: their teeth here right right.

523
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Speaker 3: You know, now they got guys hurt. But to get

524
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Speaker 3: to the series, this team matches up really well with

525
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Speaker 3: with Boston, and you know they've played each other last year,

526
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: and you know, if you recall, you know, Jimmy Butler

527
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: rebound pull up three in transition. You know, if that goes,

528
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: they're going to the finals, you know what I mean.

529
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: So they got guys that can guard Tatum and Brown

530
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: or at least make them work, and they got versatile wings.

531
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun. You know, this is this is

532
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: the Bubble matchup, and everyone was talking about the Bubble

533
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: with some bullshit and Bubble was this and that where

534
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: you know we're getting to repeat, you know, two or

535
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: three years later of these Bubble matchups. And I personally

536
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: think that Boston is either the first best or second

537
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: best team left in the playoffs. So I expect them

538
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: to win, but it won't be easy. But again, I

539
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if Miami kept this this amazing run

540
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: going with the hopes of getting if they can get

541
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: past Boston, getting Tyler Herro back for the finals.

542
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: Well, Boston had those sort of flaky, underperforming moments in

543
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: the series against Philly. I would expect the heat and

544
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler to take advantage of that better than the

545
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: Sixers did.

546
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 3: And Rachel we would call how well they played without

547
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: Jimmy that one game and took Philly to the wire.

548
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: So this is a team that is coach well, that

549
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: is very prepared, and you know, we've sung Coach Bolster's praises.

550
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: One of the best coaches in the game. Will be

551
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame coach as soon as he hands

552
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: it up. So, like you said that, this team is

553
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: not going to beat themselves, and you're not going to

554
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: luck up and beat this Miami Heat team. You have

555
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 3: to literally beat this team. So night, you know, if

556
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: you decide to take games off or slip, Miami's going

557
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: to win that shit. They're not going to be Philly

558
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: and give you a chance to play around and come back.

559
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: So Boston has to play better. Jason Tatum has to

560
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: be very consistent this round, and if they do that,

561
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: to me, I think they should win. But there's a

562
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: lot of you know in the past that you know,

563
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: I feel like Boston is going to keep the window

564
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: open for this team, and that could be dangerous.

565
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: This is great for me because in sports, right, I mean,

566
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: sometimes the team's just much more talented or something, and

567
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: it kind of is an uneven matchup. It's close enough

568
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: here that what we're really testing with Boston is what

569
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: is their mental metal right, because we know that on

570
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: paper the more talented team. Jason Tatum has shown us

571
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: he can be transit I mean he can he can

572
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: just be transcendent. But are they tough enough to get

573
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: through this round?

574
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to see it?

575
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, obviously hopefully Missoula learned from

576
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: his you know non call in time. You know when

577
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: you look at the coach because you always want to

578
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: look at the coaching matchup too, and to the Spolster

579
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: is night and day and this is not what Yeah,

580
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: they definitely got the advantage on the coaching side too,

581
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: the X and o's and the strategy and the in

582
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: game adjustment. So that's why it makes it even more

583
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: important for those players to come out there and really play.

584
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: It's it's it's do or die every single game. There's

585
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: no games off because Miami is not the kind of

586
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: team that you can mess around with.

587
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point.

588
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: Also, by the way, Tyler Hero was originally projected to

589
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: come back not before what a theoretical NBA Finals run

590
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: would be, but apparently he's a little bit ahead of schedule.

591
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: Reports are that he's doing well, So, I mean, we

592
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: don't know, but it's possible he could come back toward.

593
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: The end of this conference finals. We'll find out. I

594
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: don't know something or what. Get to the West over here.

595
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: Lakers Nuggets another bubble rematch, right, both teams coming in

596
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: a little stronger this time because the Lakers proved in

597
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: the last round. They have defint matter and Anthony Davis

598
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: further along when he was back in the bubble when

599
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: they won the title. They've got Reeves, Lonnie Walker, Dennis,

600
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: the menas all producing when called upon. And look, we

601
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: still saw the toll that the Joker had on eighton,

602
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: So it is going to be rough for Davis.

603
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: But what do you think? What do you think sort

604
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: of what's your overall take up on this matchup?

605
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: Well, I mean to back up a little bit. Just

606
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: as we sung Miami's praises from coming through the play

607
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: in and you know, we're starting to hear whispers that

608
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: you know, Lebron has the last chance guy following him

609
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: around for this amazing run you know that they're making,

610
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: and how great would for these guys to come in

611
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: through the plan and get through the number one seed

612
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: and get to the finals and possibly win it. You know,

613
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's a lot of work to do.

614
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 3: It's a lot easier said than done. But you know,

615
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: the Lakers have got themselves here. I think the most

616
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: important thing is going to be Anthony Davis' consistency. We

617
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: just spoke about Jason Tatum. I think Jason Tatum is

618
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: more consistent than Anthony Davis. But Anthony Dave this is

619
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: going to have to win the Magic Johnson Western Conference,

620
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, most valuable Player in order for this team

621
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: to win, because this is no longer on Lebron. But

622
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: you know, A just caught up to Lebron, and for

623
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: the first time we've seen it in this playoff run,

624
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: and he is not capable. And again this is not

625
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: a knock. He's done it for goddamn nineteen years. He's

626
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: been able to put the whole franchise in his back

627
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: and run him through everything. Just A just caught up

628
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: to Lebron. So Lebron is wisely picking and choosing his spots.

629
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: But eighty has to be that consistent, consistent piece that

630
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: is going to not only make a Yokic work on

631
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: the defensive, end, but also make Yolkic work on the

632
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: offensive end. And I think one thing, Rachel. They had

633
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: a lot of success with Yokic in the bubble, and

634
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: obviously he's gone on and won two MVP since then,

635
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: but they also had more depth in Dwight Howard and

636
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: Jabelle McGee, those big bodies that they can throw on

637
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: Jokic where he can't bully these guys. You know. So

638
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: you have Tristan Thompson who is a proven winner but

639
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: hasn't got much burn. I heard yesterday that the Mobamba

640
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: is being reevaluated to hopefully have a chance to playing

641
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: this series, to be able to throw some fouls at him.

642
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: But I think it all comes down to ad being

643
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: very consistent, and then the role players. Which role players

644
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: are gonna shine and can those role players shine away?

645
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: You know, you got KCP who is a former Laker

646
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: who is has been played well all these playoffs. Expect

647
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: him to come tough. Aaron Gordon did a good job

648
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: offensive and defense, leave Michael Porter junior, Bruce Brown who's

649
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Speaker 3: been amazing in these playoffs. And then you on the

650
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Speaker 3: flip side, you look at d Loo and Austin Reeves.

651
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Speaker 3: Can these guys, answer the phone. Excuse me, answer the

652
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Speaker 3: bell when it comes to playing on the run, Yeah,

653
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: both both the Lakers. You know, the Lakers haven't gone

654
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Speaker 3: into Memphis and took game one, went into Golden State

655
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Speaker 3: and took game one. Can they go get game one

656
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Speaker 3: in Denver? Denver's favored. We're gonna have to see. But

657
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Speaker 3: A d has to be the superstar Anthony Davis. He

658
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: can't be just Hey, I'm gonna play defense today and

659
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Speaker 3: be great on defense. You've got to be great on

660
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Speaker 3: both ends for this team to have a chance to advance.

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Speaker 2: Matt Jokic isn't just sort of one of a better

662
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Speaker 2: version of some of the big men than Anthony Davis's face.

663
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Speaker 2: He's a different version, right, I Mean he's craftier, he's

664
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Speaker 2: the way he passes all the stuff. What is the

665
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Speaker 2: sort of what does Anthony have to do differently than

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Speaker 2: just sort of a straight up center that you're banging

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Speaker 2: and going against.

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Speaker 3: Well, I asked Kevin Garnett this last week, like what

669
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Speaker 3: would you do against you know, A Jokic? And it's

670
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Speaker 3: just give him constantly, give him different looks. It's making

671
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Speaker 3: him works, it's meeting him higher. Don't let it allow

672
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Speaker 3: him to get positioned. You know, once he comes over

673
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Speaker 3: half court, ride and bump him, make it uncomfortable front him.

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Speaker 3: Send double team from the baseline, sometimes sometimes send him

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Speaker 3: from the middle. Just keep Yokic guessing. And you know,

676
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Speaker 3: I take this back to our we believe here when

677
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Speaker 3: we had to guard Dirt and Nelly put me and

678
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Speaker 3: Jack and sometimes Al Harrington. But the one thing was

679
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Speaker 3: is we always gave Dirk different looks. He never knew

680
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Speaker 3: where we were coming from. And although you know Jokic

681
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Speaker 3: is a great passer, you want to make the other's beach.

682
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Speaker 3: I don't give even if he's passing Jamal Murray. You

683
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Speaker 3: want to make everyone but Jokic come in here and

684
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Speaker 3: beat you. So I say all that to say they

685
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Speaker 3: just have to keep him off balance. They got to

686
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Speaker 3: make him work. And not only do they have to

687
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: give him different looks on the defensive him, but they

688
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: got to keep putting his ass in to pick and

689
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: roll on the offensive end and get him tired and

690
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: make him work. So it's going to be very interesting.

691
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: There's a reason why he's a you know, the reigning

692
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: MVP and arguably one of the greatest centers we've ever seen. So,

693
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Speaker 3: But on the flip side, you know, we can say

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Speaker 3: the same thing with the consistently Anthony Davis. He's one

695
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Speaker 3: of the greatest power forwards we've ever seen, so Ad

696
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Speaker 3: has his work cut out on both ends. The one

697
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Speaker 3: thing that scares me is the Lakers' depth in that

698
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Speaker 3: front quart as far as you know, able to put

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Speaker 3: big bodies on Jokinch. So we will have to see.

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Speaker 2: All right, We got a guest question, who do you

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Speaker 2: think is going to show up big in the Conference

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Speaker 2: finals and win the Larry Bird East MVP. You already

714
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Speaker 2: said that you think that the pressure is on Anthony

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Speaker 2: Davis to win the MVP in the West, that that's

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Speaker 2: the only way the Lakers are going to win.

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Speaker 1: What about the East?

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Speaker 3: Same thing. Jason Tatum, he has to be the rain.

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Speaker 3: He's the Raining. He won the inaugural Larry Bird. He

720
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Speaker 3: has to win his second straight award for Boston to advance.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot riding on Anthony Davis and

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum. If they're the best players in these series,

723
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Speaker 3: both their teams advance to the finals. If they don't,

724
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Speaker 3: neither those teams will advance.

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Speaker 1: Plus, you know Tatum won last year.

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Speaker 2: It was the first time the Larry Bird Trophy was

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Speaker 2: named the Larry Bird Trophy.

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Speaker 1: I think you got to keep in the Celtics family, right.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Boston.

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Speaker 3: Fan, keep wondering that you might start calling the Jason

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Speaker 3: Tatum Trophy.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into some odds. A The Raider presented by DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: one Lakers Denver, Give it to me, Mad Nuggets are

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Speaker 2: six point favorites.

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Speaker 1: Who do you got in Game one?

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Speaker 3: I got Denver winning Game one.

743
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Speaker 1: With the spread against the spread? What are we talking?

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Speaker 3: You look at the I'm not someone who really looks

745
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: at I just think straight head to head. I think

746
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Speaker 3: Denver WI win, they get a little bit more rest altitude.

747
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Speaker 3: So I'm taking my heart is with the Lakers to

748
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Speaker 3: win the series. But I have Denver in Game one,

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Speaker 3: all right?

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Speaker 2: And what about Wednesday Night's game? Boston eight point favorites

751
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Speaker 2: over the heat.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot. I'm taking Boston to win Game one

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Speaker 3: at home, but I don't know if it's going to

756
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Speaker 3: be by the spread. But I think both these series

757
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: are going to be great. But I think that that

758
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: this Eastern Conference series is going to be just a grind,

759
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Speaker 3: and I'm excited to see it. So I got Boston.

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Speaker 3: I got the home teams protecting home court in Game one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I do picks on DraftKings, and I got to say

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00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: I go with the money line more than the spread.

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: Usually on games I do player points and rebounds as

765
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Speaker 2: this that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, man, those.

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00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: Spreads either Vegas is too good at doing them to

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Speaker 2: pick or we talked about.

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Speaker 3: This, like I don't understand how how are they so good?

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00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: Like if you watch these games good crazy enough, it's

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00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: probably going to be six and eight points just like

772
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: or five points or seven points? Like what? Like? Who

773
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Speaker 3: are these people?

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Speaker 1: They're too good for me? All right, draft lottery on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night.

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00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: We got to get to that before we go, because

777
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: you know, Victor web and Yama the big prize. This

778
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: guy could turn a franchise around. I haven't seen this

779
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: kind of excitement since the Zion draft. And frankly, maybe

780
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more because Victor is such a

781
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: sort of interestingly different player. He just he does everything

782
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: a big man does but also takes the ball off

783
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: the floor. I mean, he's just been fantastic. He dazzled

784
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas when he did some stuff with some

785
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: other prospects. Business perspective, He's gonna bring you a lot

786
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: of money right off the bat. So which team needs

787
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Speaker 2: this guy most?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the worst part about these lotteries is

789
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: you're always going to franchises that have issues and you're right,

790
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: thank you, and winning starts at the top. So you

791
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: look at you know, Detroit, the Rockets in San Antonio.

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00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: You know, San Antonio obviously historically has been great, but

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00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: just of late that they're down. So you look at

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00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: those top three teams and then you throw you know,

795
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 3: Charlotte and Portland in there at the bottom. I would

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00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: love to see since Dame is such a gun hoer

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00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: for Portland, I would love to see him get a Victor.

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Speaker 1: That'd be pretty great.

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Speaker 3: And be able to use that and mentor him in

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Speaker 3: school him because I feel like, you know, with our

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00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: brother Boogie, Boogie was a high talented obviously, you know

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Speaker 3: we're not talking about Victor woman Yama, but Bookie was

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00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: great in his own way. But he went to an

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: organization with no structure, no foundations, seven coaches in eight years,

805
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: and that can derail a lot of young great players,

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Speaker 3: especially a Florin player who's coming and living in the

807
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Speaker 3: States for the first time and thinking, hey, this is

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Speaker 3: how the NBA is, this is how the world is.

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00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: Foundation is very important for these young stars. So hopefully

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00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: he goes somewhere with a little bit of stability and

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Speaker 3: some guidance from either you know, veteran players and coaches.

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00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: So off those five I just listed, I would love

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00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: to see if Dame's going to stand poor, then I

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00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 3: let us see Damon chance to get a big fella.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that would be the most fun. I'm

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00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: totally with you in terms of just sort of the

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Speaker 2: teams of the best odds. I hope he ends up

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Speaker 2: in San Antonio of those three bottom teams, just because

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Speaker 2: I do think Greg Popovich would give him that structure

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00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: and really teach him the game. Tim Duncan is still

821
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: hanging around that franchise. I just think that that is

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Speaker 2: the best incubator for his talents. Houston worries me just

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Speaker 2: because of what you just said. I mean, it's a

824
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: very similar situation to what you just describe with Sacramento

825
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Speaker 2: with Boogie. And by the way, if James Harden did

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Speaker 2: decide to come back there, it's not like he's known

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Speaker 2: for mentoring young players, at least not right on the court.

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Speaker 3: Maybe in the community. Maybe in the community. Right in

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Speaker 3: the community.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic, by the way, bring that up over and

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Speaker 2: over again with you. All right, I'm excited though, over

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Speaker 2: the draft, lottery and all we got to have.

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Speaker 1: We got a good.

834
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Speaker 2: Month coming up, conference finals and finals. Matt will be

835
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Speaker 2: with you all the way. You got huge all the

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Speaker 2: smoke guests coming up, right, You want to plug anything

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Speaker 2: before we get We want.

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Speaker 3: To surprise people. We got a good variety of championship

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Speaker 3: winners and people in the movie business and owners, so

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Speaker 3: we're doing a lot of different We're being versatile on

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Speaker 3: all the smokes.

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Speaker 2: To stay tuned, all right, best showing basketball right now. See,

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Speaker 2: I'll be sure to catch that. You can catch what's

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Speaker 3: See y'all soon, John, Get your shit together, bro,