1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, the podcast. Hello 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: my Little Peanuts s It's me your host, Lance Bass. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Me. Lads, right here on 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: my heart, I have my co host with the Most. 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I was hoping, yeah, host with the Most. Yeah, okay, Uh, 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Turkey Turchin, Michael church In, Hello there. I'm so glad 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: that you're actually here because you know, when you listen 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: to the first couple episodes of this, you disappeared. I 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: was gone that. I was like, I swear, I swear 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: we're still together. Um. Everyone thought we were like divorcing 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: or something like. Um, and I do because a lot 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: of people out there have been asking, why do you 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: call us penis? I don't call you my literally literally 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: just said penis. I did, Yes, you literally said penis 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: when I opened up the show just now, And I 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: know I meant to yeah, Well, I'm saying, they're like, 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: why do you call us a little penis? It's little 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: pen huts um, and I have to say, I don't 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: even know where it came from. When I was doing 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: my show years ago, uh, they it was a live 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: show and then I've never done radio before except being 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: interviewed and they're like, okay, three to one go. I'm like, uh, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: And the only thing I can think of was like, hello, 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: my little Peanuts, and it just stuck from that day 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: and so I just think it's a cute little term 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: of endearment for the listeners out there. I mean, who 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to be a little peanut, you know, 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: like Charlie Brown and the peanut and the Peanuts. Oh 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: my god. This week was very exciting for us because, uh, 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, for those of you that don't know, we 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: have fifteen month old baby twins, and we were super 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 1: excited that we finally got to meet our egg donors. Okay, 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: so a lot of the times you don't get to 34 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: meet your egg donor because it's uh, it's anonymous, and 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: and we didn't even know her name for three years now. 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: We had pictures of her, right, so, I mean we 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: knew exactly all her history and family history. Um he's 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: argentinean Argentinian. Uh, And so she wanted to meet us, 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and so she came over to the house met the kids, 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: and it was so special. She's such a cool girl. 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: It's so cool, and she looks just like our son. 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it is uncanny, and she was like, obviously 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: we knew what she looked like in the photos, and 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: we're like, oh wow, she's a beautiful girl. She's a lady. 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Gorgeous I mean in person, even more gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah, 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: we have more embryos, you see, Babe. Don't you want 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: to have another one? Absolutely not at this moment. I'm 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: trying to convince him to have another baby. And I know, okay, 49 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: we can. We have a few more months to decide, 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: but I don't want a third guest. Jeff he has 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge on multiple It's very true. So 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: let's introduce her guests of the day. Jeffrey Brandon, timmo Alright, 53 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: pop singer, songwriter, producer from Kenton, Ohio, founding member of 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: the Grammy nominated pop group Eight Degrees. Um study psychology 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: at Kent State. See, I'm learning all kinds of no, 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: you did not, oh my gosh. Okay, well we're gonna 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: get into that. Decided to move to l A to 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: pursue a career in entertainment. Okay, let's just get into 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: this because I didn't know really the origin story of 60 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: nine Degrees and it started with you. Well, well, yeah, 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean I mean just kind of on a whim too. 62 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I had been in singing all 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: my life, enquired and all that because I heard that 64 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: through the grape vine that you were in college or 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: something and you're trying to press some girls and you're 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: like singing, and that's how it all. It's really tacky 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: story people. You guys had this great story of being 68 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, with with and all this stuff, and and 69 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: and we have a different story, and and it wasn't 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: exactly like I set out to do it. I had 71 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: some experience in quartets, but my where I'm from is 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: a small town that's all about football, right, and so 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, I've always shied away from the arts and 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: and uh. And then one night we were at this 75 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: party and these girls would not talk. I was in 76 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: college and I had run into some kids that I 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: went to school at high school with, and you know, 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: these girls would not talk to us at all. And 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like, well, why don't we sing him a song? Like, 80 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: let's sing an acapella song. So I picked three guys 81 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: out of that I was with, and we parted out 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: my girl and sang it to and then they talked 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: to us. This is like a movie. This is a movie. 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: This is just chop. It's like the most you know. 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: And so I was like, all right, well this is it. 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: I saw the reaction and then I just felt something 87 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: crazy about it. Literally, my mom thought I was crazy. 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: I was like a quarter, not even a semester away 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: from graduating with my psych degree, left a quarter semester 90 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: before a quarter. Yeah, And I called my parents that night. 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Obviously there there were some drinks involved to make this decision, 92 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: and then I was like, Hey, this is it. I 93 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: called my mom. I'm like, I'm quitin school. I'm gonna 94 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: start a group. We're gonna go to l A. Because 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: you didn't have YouTube and snapchatting social media to break 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: or American Idol or anything, you had to go to 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: go to where the scene was at. And so she 98 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, sure, honey, how much have you had 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: to drink? And I was like a lot, but this 100 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: is what I want to do. And then we, you know, 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: we could quit school and then drove to l A 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later to try to pursue it. 103 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: We had nothing going on, we had no in roads, 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: no connections, any of that stuff. We just, uh, we 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: moved out west and you know the other guys at 106 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: that point, yeah, I'd gone to school with them, but 107 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: I didn't know them as singers. They were all jocks, 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: they were all football players. But you know, I thought, 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: you know, there was a certain ring to the sound. 110 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: And it was a really kind of impulsive decision, but 111 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: it was it was there something about it that I 112 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: really kind of wanted to do. And the reaction was cool. 113 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: And my parents, you know, although very strict about school, 114 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: they were like, look, if you really are feeling this, 115 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something you've always had a knack for. 116 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: You know, we're behind it. You can always go back 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: to school. And then you know, uh, they kind of 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: have you know, supported what I did. And and then 119 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: we got lucky. You know, those guys I was with 120 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: quit when we were in l a here. You know, 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: we had some three of them, There were three other guys. 122 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: We had some opportunities and we we end up we 123 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: would sing everywhere for food and money and acapella. You 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: guys know, we all started the say so we would 125 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: tell those guys now always stayed in touch with them. 126 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, I always felt bad because they were very 127 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: talented guys, probably not obviously, not to the level of 128 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, Nick and the crew that I ended up 129 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: being blessed to be with, but um, yeah, I mean 130 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I write with them all the time, you know. I 131 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I co produced a lot of music for them, and 132 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: they've done a lot of stuff on the production side 133 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: of things, and I always wanted to give back to 134 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: them because I felt bad although they made the decision 135 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: to quit. I mean, I just kind of felt bad 136 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: that here, you know, literally like minutes later almost that 137 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, we ended up getting signed and basically they 138 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: took the ball to the five yard like, so that's 139 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: kind of what happened. Well, I mean I replaced someone 140 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: in then Sync. Uh. You know, they had a bass 141 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: singer that was friends with Joey, and he was like, 142 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: I just don't want to do this because it was, 143 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: you know, the kid market. He didn't want teenage market 144 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: after him. Um. And so yeah, we got signed like 145 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: just a few months later. Um, and he went back 146 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: to delivering pizzas. Oh my goodness, man. But I mean 147 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that you replace 148 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: literally the market you want to get. Yeah, well we 149 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: know that now, right exactly. Who's listening right now? Tweens 150 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: and teens. That's the market we want. Everybody wants that. 151 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, so the lesson is here, kids, Um quit school, 152 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Um follow your dreams and just throw caution to the 153 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: wind and just do it. Just just kidding, No, go 154 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: to school, kids, stay in school. We don't encourage encourage that. 155 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: All right, So how did you end up meeting all 156 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: of the guys And do you remember that first moment 157 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: that y'all sang together for Port Haartney? Yeah, I mean 158 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting because I was, you know, I 159 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: got an odd job. I really wanted to do it 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: and stick with it, and I was out here by myself, 161 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: and so I was like, you know, I got a 162 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: job working security at all the clubs, and I actually 163 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: worked at Phil Collins's house that was being built in 164 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, uh and and did all these different things. 165 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: But I would you know, again, no social media back then. 166 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: So you're putting ads in newspapers and I'm auditioning people 167 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: when I'm off the clock, and I couldn't find anybody. 168 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: You would think in l A, you know, the mecca 169 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: of entertainment and people that are trying to make get 170 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: you'd you'd find somebody. I found nobody, and then I 171 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: ran into a guy. I went on a random audition 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: for a commercial for uh, just a random thing, and 173 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: then I'm beginning. The commercial was a Navy commercial and 174 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: and then the woman that got me that that that 175 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: gig it was actually my brother's roommate's age and he 176 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: wasn't there, so she said, will you go? And I 177 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not I'm not an actor. But anyway, 178 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: she introduced me to a guy that went to school 179 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: with Nick, to high school with Nick and Drew and Justin, 180 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: and he was like, I got the perfect guy for you, 181 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: and he played me a tape. I didn't know what 182 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: Nick looked like, he had no pictures of him. I'm like, 183 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: whoever that guy is, get him on the phone. So 184 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: I called him, talked to him into coming out. And 185 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see what Nick looked like until he got 186 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: to l a uh several months later, and then he 187 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: brought his brother out and and Justin joined after that. 188 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: So that's how it all got started. We sang backstage 189 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: with Boys the Men concert got discovered there. That's how 190 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: it happen. Yeah, we idolized Boys the Men, So yeah, 191 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: we snuffed backstage. Yeah, all of us did. Right. Um, 192 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: there was at that time, you didn't hear the word 193 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: boy band any There was no such word as well America. 194 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: There was nowhere Germany, you know they were over there. 195 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: It really was just you know, boys, de men and 196 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: like Shy and Joda see and then you had all 197 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: for one in there. But that there were no boy bands. 198 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean think I think the closest thing to it 199 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: was maybe New Kids, but that was kind of a 200 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: generation before us. But we I mean, but our generation 201 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: just grew up on R and B soul. I mean 202 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: that's just what we lived. Um. It's uh. I loved 203 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: meeting you guys because we met over in Europe because 204 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people, I don't even think realize y'all 205 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: came out before us and Backstrey Boys and came out 206 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: right at the same time as Backstreet. But you know, 207 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people know this story, but some people don't. 208 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: We were signed to Motown. In Motown really wanted people 209 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: to think we were a black group. We were a group, 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: so they didn't put our picture on anything. So so 211 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't shoot a music video at first. 212 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: We uh, we didn't have our picture on the cover 213 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: that was sent to sent to the radio stations, and 214 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: then we would show up to do radio shows at 215 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: R and B stations and they were like, what you 216 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: guys are you guys aren't I need degree? So know, 217 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: basically that didn't work right. We didn't fool the public 218 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: on that one. And so uh, you know, we had 219 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: a regroup and they brought a new president and and 220 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: and they sent this overseas. Unfortunately we got to meet 221 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: you guys there, and I remember seeing them and going, 222 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: please never let these guys come to the United States, like, like, 223 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: if they come to the United States, we're finished, right. 224 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: But I loved beat around you guys over there one 225 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: because it was familiar to have just Americans in the 226 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: room because we were there for you know, a couple 227 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: of years, and we went on some kind of tour 228 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: was maybe it was in England we did. We did 229 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: a couple I mean, I know there was one called 230 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: Smash Hits or pop it was one or both of those. 231 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: And that was where boy band it was like boy 232 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: Band Central never forget five was on this right now. 233 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: You remember something went down between you your groups where 234 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: someone was trying to beat someone's ass. Well, I don't 235 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: know what happened. Explain it. I mean, look, you so 236 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: when you're younger, you're pretty dumb andt I still have 237 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: teenagers in my older middle age. But when we were there, 238 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: there was, if you remember, was like a new up 239 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: and comer competition during that tour, and it was us 240 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: in five as to be the new up and coming. Yeah. So, 241 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: and then Jimmy Ray was one of those. Yeah, that's 242 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: what we opened up for Jenna. That was our first 243 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: opening act in Los Angeles with Jimmy Ray at the 244 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Santa Munka Pier. I love it good times. He was 245 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: like a rockabilly. Do you remember that about me? And 246 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: that's what he did. We went from the Janet Jackson 247 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Velvet Rope Tour to opening up for Jimmy Ray. You know, 248 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: it happens. You gotta start somewhere. That's still pretty awesome. Yeah, 249 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's great, but I did. I I just 250 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: always we got along with you all so well, and 251 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I just remember that, but like, ah, these guys are awesome. 252 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: We just loved it. You guys had a good vibe 253 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: and we're cool to hang out with and and we 254 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: were so you know, I had so much respect for 255 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: your talent. I mean, a lot of those boy bands, 256 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to be considered because we were 257 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: on Motown. This aren't the vocal group. And of course 258 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: we bristled back against you know, being kind of monickered 259 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: this this new boy band. But you guys were a 260 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: vocal group. And you guys could also dance too, And 261 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: so you know, some of those other groups, they weren't 262 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: performing live and they were you could tell they were assembled, 263 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: and they weren't nearly too definitely a formula, no question 264 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: about it. But you guys were a killer, I mean obviously, right, 265 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: and so we you know, we were excited to see 266 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: it from because you were from the States and up 267 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: and coming and going through the same experience as we were, right, 268 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: and uh, we just kind of had a connection there 269 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: with you guys. We didn't really connect with the backstreet 270 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: boys that often, you know, but because they were already 271 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: off to the races at that time. Um, but you 272 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: guys were always fantastic. And what I love about is 273 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: none of you guys have changed, you know, we you know, 274 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: every time we run into you and do stuff with 275 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: you still has that sort of kinship and good vibe 276 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: to it, so it's it's pretty he don't even answer. 277 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: He didn't change he was you were saying, you know, 278 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: because Motown and they wouldn't put picture is anywhere. The 279 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: only country that happened to us was France. Like France 280 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: was weird back in the day because they would only 281 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: pay play you know, English music, So it's really hard 282 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: to break that market. And so I guess the record 283 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: label purposely didn't put our pictures out. And so when 284 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: we went there for the first time, you know, when 285 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: fans come to the hotel and their face when they 286 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: saw no way so confused. But again, there was no 287 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: social media that you couldn't there was no googling. Uh, 288 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: you just didn't know what some of these bands looked like. 289 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: But I will never forget that. It was so funny, 290 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: and we never went back to France, and it was 291 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: and really a lot of those spots overseas in Europe 292 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: and now now it's a lot different. You've got to 293 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: break right away. Even in the United States, you know, 294 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: they used to artists developed, so if you didn't break 295 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: right away, you'd get another shot. But in Europe, you know, 296 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: if you didn't break right away, that was it. We 297 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: didn't eat. We didn't. We never broke hereup. We went 298 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: over there a couple of times. Every time we had 299 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: a different staff and by the third time they're like, 300 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: if you guys aren't aren't breaking? Now you're not breaking. 301 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: It's so weird how that works. Uh, it is different 302 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: back in the day because you did have to go 303 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: to every radio station, so I know it was hard 304 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: to you know, get some time to go to France, 305 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: go to England. England was hard for us because we 306 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: just didn't go that much and I thought we could 307 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: do much better there and we had you know, we'd 308 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: had top tens whatever, but it wasn't like America or Germany. Germany, 309 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: you guys crushed. I mean, Germany was just our I 310 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: mean that was our home and for two years it 311 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: just we were doing so well there that no one 312 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: wanted us to go anywhere else. So it was in Germany, 313 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Austro Switzerland, um our number, our first number one was 314 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: in Australia. Never went we never touched down and all 315 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: that's amazing at all. But then when we came to 316 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: America and got signed in America and then just things 317 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: just went out of control. We never went back anywhere. 318 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: That never well you didn't need to, well, I mean, 319 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: but we wanted to. And that's what sucks, because you 320 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: want to go back to the ones that started you. 321 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: But the label never wanted to take us out of 322 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: the country. And again, it was that time where because 323 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: you have to go to every station in this country 324 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: is so huge, you're just constantly on the road going 325 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: to every little city around the countries. And so this 326 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: we had no time. And then when one album cycles done, 327 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: they're ready to get in the studio and then you 328 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: go do the radio circuit again. Right, you visit all stags. 329 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: Did you think that your group was handled right by 330 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: the label? Did you all have a lot of opinions? 331 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: You think they worked you a little hard because I know, 332 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: looking back, I would do things differently and say, look, 333 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: give us just some time. Well, look, everybody hates the label, right, 334 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's sort of the that's sort of the 335 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: artist's label relationship throughout the tenure of you, your career 336 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: and everybody's career. But you know, with us, it was 337 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: especially weird because they didn't market us the right way first, right, 338 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: So the second time around, you know, they really pushed us, 339 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: and you know, we did that whole circuit for years 340 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: and years and years. I mean, I think at one point, 341 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, you do the radio shows and then you 342 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: go on your own tour. But for us, it was 343 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: radio shows for about three years straight and then we 344 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: would pepper in a small tour. But really, you know, 345 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: I think that the labels also barred our artists, as 346 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: we know later, right, you go do the radio show 347 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: for this ad for another another artist and on the label, 348 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: And we didn't know that until many years later. And 349 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: plus we had we were getting compared to you guys, 350 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: and you guys were bigger than than than us, and 351 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: we're selling more records and had more presents out there 352 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: within the media. So you know, you you're always afraid that, Okay, 353 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: we're getting compared to these guys. So we gotta keep working, 354 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: gotta keep grinding, and we'll do whatever it takes, you know, 355 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: to stay relevant and and all that stuff and keep 356 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: our fan base growing. But then there's always some the 357 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: chance that somebody is right behind you too. So I 358 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: think if if to your point, I would love to 359 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: change some stuff, and it would be not the work 360 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: ethic and all that, maybe a little less busy work 361 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: but to enjoy the moment, you know what I mean. 362 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: As we get older, we're like, man, we're pretty lucky 363 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: to do this and be hanging out here on on 364 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: your podcast and doing a radio show with you guys, 365 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: you know talking pushing close to thirty years later. Um, 366 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: and that's a blessing and it's fun. And now we 367 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: have fun on stage all the time because we were 368 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: It's like icing on the cake, right, But back then 369 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have taken a deep breath 370 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: and go, man, this is pretty pretty awesome. But we 371 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: were always like man, grind, grind, grind, you know that 372 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: goes It's twenty five years later, you're still working with 373 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: the guys. What is next for nine eight degrees? And 374 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: when we see Nick come in and do something every 375 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: once in a while, yeah, I mean I think we've 376 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: well that's the plan. I mean before pandemic, pre pandemic, 377 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean we were doing a lot of shows, sixty 378 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: some shows a year and a pretty healthy amount. And 379 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, look, he he obviously hosts a lot of 380 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: shows and his Mr host he has like he's like 381 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrest has every job and takes every job for me. 382 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: He does give me one show, Just give me one show. Well, 383 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: we're all happy, you know, we're all happy for him 384 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: that he has those opportunities and he sort of formulated 385 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: those with his hard work and his success. But um, 386 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, we love when he's with us and and 387 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: we have a blast. Right, So when pandemic happened, he 388 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: started focusing on, you know, what he could do, and 389 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot was the hosting stuff that took up a 390 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: primary primarily most of his time. And then Vanessa got 391 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: a part on a show n C I s Hawaii. 392 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: I think it is what it is must suck to 393 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: live in Hawaii. Well, they had to move, so and 394 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: he's a big family, so he didn't want to be 395 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: away from his kids, you know, juggling that her shooting 396 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: schedule and there's together and some of the stuff they do, 397 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: so he's not able to do as much. So to 398 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: your point, and to get to a long, a long 399 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: winded answer over with, you know, hopefully this year, you know, 400 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: in the fall, we're gonna be able to do some shows. 401 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: We plan on doing a tour you know, fall end 402 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: the summer, in the fall when their schedules lightening up 403 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: a bit. But you know, in the meantime, we're all 404 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: we're all keeping busy, which is we're fortunate enough to 405 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: do so when I think of none of degrees, it 406 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: also brings like I think Christmas because I think you'll 407 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: do Christmas so well. I love thank youll seeing Christmas songs. 408 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Do you all plan on doing another album? You know, 409 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: there's some there's some talk about us doing new music. 410 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: We've we've recorded some songs that we're pretty happy with 411 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: and then you know, I got approached by a label 412 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: recently that wants us to do another one. I mean 413 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: the first one, and I'm glad you recognize that, and 414 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: and thanks for the thanks for the kudos on it. 415 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: We're proud of. I think that's the first Christmas albums 416 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: the album we're all most proud of. Right, Um, it 417 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: did really well. It sounds great, and you know, for 418 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: us and you guys that are a harmony based group, 419 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: you don't get to really showcase that on a lot 420 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: on so you just kind of just do the hooks, 421 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: some backgrounds here and there. You know. That's why I 422 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: love the Christmas apposde one. I just love Christmas. But 423 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: we got to go back to our roots, you know, 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: and we were just a cappella groups. And as a 425 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: bass singer, that's all you know, that's all I lived for. 426 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: And you get the showcase your voice on that and 427 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: pop songs. You don't really that group, he doesn't get 428 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: a chance. And you spend hours in the studio, right, 429 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: like hours doing these bass parts, three different types of 430 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: bass parts, and then they mix it in and just 431 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: cover it up and like what did I do that 432 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: basine with a big bassline? Oh my god? Like why 433 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: did I? Why did I spend all those time? Because 434 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: it was fun, that's why. So you did a show 435 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: with my boy Chris kop Patrick v h One, I 436 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: forget what my god, every but he figure out what 437 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: it was if they even saw it. So I have 438 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: a lot of shows, you know, boy band fan at 439 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, that you were the age, Yeah sure, 440 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: because I like, yeah, I loved I mean, I would 441 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: love back to boards and I love them sink and 442 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: then that was kind of it. Especially liked what separated 443 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: ninety degrees was that you didn't wear shirts. That's right. 444 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: Really you didn't need to dance because you know, you 445 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: could make your chest dance. Well. First of all, first 446 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: of all, we couldn't if we tried, I mean other 447 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: than Drew. Other than Drew, We the rest of us 448 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: have two left feet. We just we couldn't dance. But 449 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean we uh you know. The show 450 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: was called Mission Man Band. It was on H one 451 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: in social experiment, putting different members of groups together, see 452 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: what happens. It was you Chris kop, Patrick Um, Rich 453 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Cronin rest in Peace, um and then uh calling me 454 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: back Brian, which who was going through a lot at 455 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: that time, ton A ton it was. It was interesting 456 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: for all of us. I was going through a pretty 457 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: bad divorce at that time too, and and so it 458 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: was a rough time for all of us, you know. 459 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: And and it's posts you know, having the success of 460 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: our bands, right, and it's when they you know, it 461 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: wasn't like now that it's come back around and a 462 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: nostalgia play with our fans and all that stuff. It 463 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: was when we were deemed uncool anymore. And so I 464 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: think the show came into an awkward time. You know, 465 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: now it would probably they do it well. It took 466 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: him a couple of years convinced because I knew they 467 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: were going to set us up to be whack. I 468 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: knew it. I knew it it's but but you know, 469 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: at the time, vach One had a platform called Urge, 470 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: which was their version of like iTunes, right, so you 471 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: know what I kept going back and doing. I was 472 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, look, I'll do it, but 473 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: but my song has to get played on Urge. You 474 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: gotta really push it on Urge, and uh, you know, 475 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: they had the Top twenty countdown. I was like, you 476 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: gotta put my music video in the top five and 477 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: they're like, well, we can't promise you that that's pay 478 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: all up, but we'll do our best way. So I 479 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna put that, put out, this 480 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: record in this this show is gonna make it and 481 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: and oddly I never finished the album right, really never 482 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: put it out. And then the show made us worse 483 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: look worse than I than I expected. But honestly, I 484 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't trade the experience for anything, because it really it 485 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: took took me really far out of my comfort zone, 486 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: and all of us that were involved that we're going 487 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: through all these different things personally and professionally at the time, 488 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: we kind of had this bond. So that's why I 489 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: think that show made Chris and I close of course 490 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: rich And and Brian, who had been going through things, 491 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: uh quite quite a treacherous time, had some people lean on. 492 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: So it was a great experience, believe it or not, 493 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: even though the show was short lived, and really what 494 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: I wanted them to do was film what was going 495 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: on after the cameras went off. At Chris's house, there 496 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: was a party the whole time. It was wild. It 497 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: was I'm pretty sure still has parties, but you would 498 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: have some epic parties at his house in Orlando. But 499 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: instead they kind of had it curated to like get 500 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: us booed when we go out and perform. And you know, 501 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: I remember from the show, it's just one scene with 502 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Chris Kirkpatrick, like they asked him to like sing, and 503 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: he just was so insecure to say, well, of course. 504 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean but we all were so insecure at that 505 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: time because yeah, and it's you know, like with us, 506 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: it was you know, j C justin like the three 507 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: of us. They never with throw us a ball, and 508 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was just all about them. And I think, 509 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, we're good singers. I'm not a great singer, 510 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: but I'm good great man. You know, I can I 511 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: guess sing um so when you you know, when the 512 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: band you know is over and you're kind of like, okay, 513 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: what do I do? Yeah, you have this insecuritive like, 514 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: well I'm not good enough. Yeah, I mean, well, look, 515 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: I I wanted to do that, but I've like being 516 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: you know, getting on stage makes me nervous. In the studio, 517 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: I love, um, but I've always wanted to be behind 518 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: the scenes, you know. I love producing other people and 519 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: putting you know, different things together and being created with 520 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: folks and maybe providing people an opportunity because I've been fortunate. 521 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: So that was always something that I wanted to do. 522 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: So I immediately started writing, ghostwriting because you know, none 523 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: of us can write songs, right boy man, we can't 524 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: produce to me there, So I started ghost writing, producing stuff, 525 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: producing music for TV. And I was at the time, 526 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: I was a young dad. I had two young kids, 527 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: so I wanted to kind of create my life so 528 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: I could be with them. As you guys can relate 529 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: now with your beautiful kids that we saw the other night. 530 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: So well, let's talk about your family. You have five kids? Um? Okay, 531 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: how wait, what are the ages now? So it goes 532 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: twenty four. Take a swig of this right now. Well, yeah, 533 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: it's coffee. We're drinking coffees, but usually it untails heavier substances. 534 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean and then and then sixteen, then eleven. 535 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: So we both had two kids from a previous marriage 536 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: and then we have one together. So when the first halp, 537 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: when we first got together, we took our time. I 538 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: had dated in years. I got a divorce, and I 539 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: had dated in years and just hung out with girls. 540 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: And then it was like, I'm not getting, you know, married, 541 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: but how do you date? I mean, you're Jeff Timmins, right, 542 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: and you haven't dated in a while. You got married young, 543 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: you're still young, and now you're in this world of 544 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: online dating, and even the online I got divorced pretty quickly, 545 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: so the online stuff wasn't even developed. So so I mean, 546 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: where do you go to meet anybody? And then what 547 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: do you say? Like, you know and so, and I 548 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: just wanted to be a dad, you know, and so 549 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't really kind of ever bring anybody 550 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: around my kids. And then I met my wife, who 551 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: was amazing, and we just hit it off and she 552 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: was cool and she had a life of her own. 553 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: And you know, when I met her. She didn't really honestly, 554 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: she didn't know who I was. I mean literally, she 555 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: was like her friends and she's like, I don't care. 556 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean whatever, right, which which was you know, you 557 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: feel like wow really, but also wow really it's kind 558 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: of cool that, you know, and then we just kind 559 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: of yeah, who was Prince Harry. I've never heard of 560 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: this Prince Harry guy? About him? Oh my goodness at 561 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. What is the best 562 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: thing about being a dad? Oh? My gosh, everything. I mean, look, look, 563 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, you know, we we lead a weird lifestyle, right, 564 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: and it brings you that back down to earth and 565 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: and just the things you get to see with your kids. 566 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: They're all different, they all have their personalities, and you 567 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: have twins in that they're probably a lot different personality wise, right, Um, So, 568 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: so you know, getting to see them develop and have 569 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: developed their own personalities and what they like to do, 570 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and and just you know, take pride and trying to 571 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: get them to be as good as they can and 572 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: try as hard as they can and love them as 573 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: much as you can unconditionally, and that's all you can 574 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: that's all you can really do. And that's the purest 575 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: thing we've got, right, We've got our parents and siblings, 576 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: and but having children, that part of it's a lot different. 577 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: And so you know, and then you know, we go 578 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: back and do this and it's crazy and it's weird, 579 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: and and then you go home and you're just dad, 580 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: you know. So my kids, my youngest ones, that we 581 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: had this long hiatus, all they knew me is is 582 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: was that I didn't see me in any other way, 583 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: which was really cool. Yeah, we you know, did a 584 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: tribute concert for Eron Carter and raise awareness for children's 585 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: mental health UM, which was a beautiful event. And I'm 586 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: so glad that you joined us. UM. That was the 587 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: first time I brought my kids to my venue. UM. 588 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: And you were saying, it's like, oh what you always 589 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: wondering what your kids are going to gravitate to, right, 590 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: So I was so interesting how they were going to 591 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: take all this world in because one their COVID baby, 592 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: so they haven't seen that many people before. UM, but 593 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: just seeing their personalities and watching you guys on stage, Uh, 594 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: my daughter probably couldn't care less, Like she was just 595 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of like curled up with me, like going on. 596 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: But my boy I think got bit by the entertainment, 597 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: but he was an awe and putting him on stage 598 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: and putting a microphone in his hand for the first time, 599 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: It's like he knew what he was doing. I'm like, 600 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: oh lord, it was like sucking on the speakers, like 601 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: as you're all were thinking, like blaring. I'm pretty serious 602 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: deaf now, but but he was like hugging the speakers 603 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: the whole time. And people tell me all the time 604 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: it's like, well, do you would you mind if your 605 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: kids go into entertainment, And honestly, I would say, I mean, 606 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: of course not, but I would not encourage it. Um. 607 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't look be a producer, writer, a drummer, sure, 608 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: but being a front man or being known. I just 609 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: don't want that pressure all my kids And they can 610 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: be and do whatever they want, but I'm definitely gonna like, 611 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: don't you like the piano? That's I share your sentiments. 612 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the way I was with my kids. 613 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: I never really pushed it on them. In fact, like 614 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: my oldest ones didn't see it. They knew a little 615 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: bit about it, but you know, I was like, if 616 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: they what if they you know, people would always ask 617 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: us that question, right, what if they wanted to be 618 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: an entertainment And I have the same answer. It's so difficult. 619 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: All jobs are difficult. This one is especially tough, especially 620 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: if you don't have thick skin, right what it does 621 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: to you inside and emotionally and and you know with 622 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: your insecurities that everybody has, and especially with kids. And 623 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: that's why I'm so glad we did this benefit concert 624 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: because it's all about you know, children's mental health, and 625 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: you put I mean even I mean I was sixteen. 626 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: I got I was a kid, but even like Aaron 627 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: was starting at seven eight years old, what does that 628 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: do to you? You nor psyche, especially being a soul artist. 629 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I always said I loved being in a group because 630 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: it was never about me. Um. I love being with 631 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: a group of people on stage having a good old time. 632 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: But people like Aaron and Brittany and Michael Jackson, it's 633 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: just always yes, yes, yes. We were in our twenties. 634 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean we weren't even teenagers, and it gave you, 635 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: it gave you an identity crisis, you know, and being 636 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: in a group. So I can't imagine, you know, or 637 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: with all the social media too, right, Like, how is it. 638 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: What is it like being justin Bieber. I mean we 639 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: had it crazy, you know, it couldn't get out of 640 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: our tour bus and in the hotels without social media, 641 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, noing, noing, everything you do at all times. 642 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how these guys handle it. You know, 643 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: phones on your camera, everything you do is documented. And 644 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: that's what I was talking to. Uh, my friend, do 645 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: you remember Pantara Sarah? Okay, so she's a big club 646 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: promoter here, I mean the biggest in l A from 647 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: the late nineties, and now you know she's retired from 648 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: that world. But I mean she was the one, and 649 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: she was always and then it was just fun saver cameras, right, 650 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's what you had to look out for. 651 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: But her places always no cameras. Last that was what 652 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: was great about her. She had was her was Dublin's 653 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: her thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, every hot spot. But it 654 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: was so great because our generation. You know, when I 655 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: was first coming to Los Angeles, you don't have to 656 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: worry about anything. No one took pictures, no one talked 657 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: about you. There was no TMZ out there waiting for you. 658 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: You could just be who you wanted to be. Now, 659 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't see anyone really going out in the younger 660 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: generation that's known because I think they're all just scared 661 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: to leave their house, which is totally understandable. You know, 662 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy. Now, that's sad. It's very sad looking back. 663 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: What is your absolute favorite moment in your career? Oh man, 664 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: that's such a tough question, as you know, give me. 665 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: I haven't done so many cool been a part of 666 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: so many cool things. I mean, look, I think you 667 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: know doing a song with Mariah Carey was Stevie wonder 668 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: We did a song with Stevie Wonder, right and Marian 669 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Joe and or you know, we got to sing at 670 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: the White House. We we got the perform from Michael 671 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Jackson on that aniversary special and we idolized Michael. Which 672 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: song did y'all do with? We did Man in the 673 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: Mirror with Usher and Luther vandros So it's like it's 674 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: quite I mean, I talked about nerves like super don't 675 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: sing at all really next to those guys, and I 676 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: was such a great night. And sadly, I think you 677 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: know that was oh eleven, happened little next days after 678 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: the next day. Yeah, um, so I don't even know 679 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: if people even saw that special, I mean did, I guess, 680 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: But it was such a wonderful night because we had 681 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: just gotten done with the VM as we go right 682 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: into this Michael Jackson thirtieth anniversary. Every artist was there. 683 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: You didn't know who was going to perform at all. 684 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Michael goes up and performs a whole concert that none 685 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: of us knew it was going to happen. It was 686 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: a cool night. Totally get why people cry because literally 687 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: had a tear going down. I'm like, why am I cry? 688 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: Like what is this? What is he doing to me? 689 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: But man, what what? What a night? And we got 690 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: to do Jackson five. I forget what so long we 691 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: did with them, but just to be able to say, wow, 692 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: we're the last to sing with the Jackson five, that's 693 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. That's that's a moment. That is a moment. 694 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: All let's take a little break here. When we come back, 695 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: we have more Jeff Timmins. Alright, Jeff, we want to 696 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: uh go over a little pop culture with you. But 697 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: first I have a little questionnaire from August. Oh my goodness, 698 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: and I want to see if your answers match them today. 699 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Okay, So here we go. What is 700 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: your girl type Jeff Tippins. Probably I probably said a 701 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: sense of humor. Yeah, yes, relaxed with a cool sense 702 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: of relaxed with a cool sense of people surprised I 703 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: put cool in there. I'm so maybe that's why I 704 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: put cool in there, because um, this is bet you 705 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: never you. Is there something someone didn't know about you? Oh? 706 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: My gosh, probably a lot. Uh. I don't know that 707 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: I played football. Well, we were just talking about this 708 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: guy Michael Jackson. Yes that I like Michael Jackson. I 709 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: guess in fifth grade I bought Michael Jackson's thriller own 710 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: record and tape and tried to dance like Michael. That failed. 711 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: That's right, Like I had the jacket and everything. Yeah, 712 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: I know. I just ran into Corey uh at the 713 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Funco Pops. You have to go see this Funco pop store. 714 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Yeah? Tracy, Tracy told me about that, 715 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: and I was at me. I was at a meeting. 716 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't go. I was gonna try to meet up it. 717 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: I've been twice now. It's like your Disney World and 718 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm such a Funco collect turned out. Well, you guys 719 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: have a funk o dog we do. We have a 720 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: couple of funco's many inventory left, though I felt, look, 721 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,239 Speaker 1: I felt like Joey Vatne. You know, if you if 722 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: you offer him, if you first swag, Joey's gonna take everything. 723 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: But with the Fonco because you know, they do a 724 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: little show where they bring in you know, like Danny 725 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: DeVito and Freddie Prince Jr. And you know and people 726 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: that have funcos and they the creator of Fonco sits 727 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: with you and you build your own Funco as he's 728 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: interviewing you for thirty minutes. Really fun. And then afterwards 729 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, just go through the store and just 730 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: take whatever you want. And so I'm there like in 731 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Star Wars, like okay, I'll take a little Princess Leana here. 732 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: And then Tracey's like, no, take that, take that, and 733 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: they just kept loading me up with everything. I walked 734 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: out with hundreds of our entire guest bedroom is fun 735 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad. It is bad. Um And I 736 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: felt so guilty. And then they're like, well, you're definitely 737 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: the king of taking the fun I took the most 738 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: of any celebrity that's been in there, but they made 739 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: me do it and I have kids and we made 740 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: a great funco Christmas tree this year. It really works. 741 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: Fans were really upset that I took him out of 742 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: the boxes. But yeah, especially the BTS. There's a big TS. 743 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: It was probably like, yeah, collector thing, and you know 744 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: they were in my Christmas tree. Oh my gosh, how 745 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: dare you take them out of their box. I'm like, 746 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to resell these, I just I want 747 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: to enjoy them. Oh. One thing, I don't know if 748 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: I've ever told you this story when I because when 749 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: I lived in Russia to train the whole cosmonaut thing, 750 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: it was such a stressful time and never had a 751 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: day off, hardly had any hours off, but there was 752 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: when I did have an hour or two off. I 753 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: would always be invited by the NASA astronauts in their homes. 754 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: You know, the cosmonauts had crappy apartments and like it 755 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: was just didn't even have air condition or whatever. But 756 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: then of course the NASA Americans they had wonderful homes 757 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: with like at it, you know, like two story beautiful homes. 758 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: So they would invite me sometimes to come have a 759 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: beer with them. And they built this little makeshift bar 760 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: in their basement and called Sheep's Bar, and it was 761 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: just really makeshift, but they had a jukebox and they 762 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: had maybe eight or nine songs on there, and one 763 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: of the songs was no Cha we made it. And 764 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: I swear to god, I listened to that song hundreds 765 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: of times. Hundreds of times that someone likes that song. 766 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: That song, Oh my god, that's probably we know. You've 767 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: made it to a Russian cosmonauts slash Nasa like seven 768 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: songs that they played and you guys are huge at 769 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: Russian Russia were top seven on the Russian jukebox. What 770 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: with Me? You remember one? Because I literally just we 771 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: just kept playing it over and it's funny story. So 772 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: I just it was like a piece of home with me. 773 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: It's interesting because we almost didn't record that song. There 774 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: were a couple of days was it well, because it 775 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: was at that time it was kind of that Latin 776 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: explosion Ricky Martin, and so we thought, wow, people are 777 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: going to think we're trying to bite the you know, 778 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: whatever is going on. So but we did it anyway. 779 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it turned out like such a good song 780 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: that we just had to do it. It was a 781 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: fun one to do so. I love that. All right. 782 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: Back to your August nineteen questionnaire, Um, who would you 783 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: do a duet with? Probably, said Christina new Mariah. No, 784 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: it's a boy oh, Brian McKnight close Joe No, baby face, 785 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: baby face Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's funny. Yeah, what 786 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: he was on fire but back then. And then your 787 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: last your favorite song probably once week Day Boys Man 788 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: close clothes water when dry. Nope, Um, it's so hard 789 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: to say any boys the Man song pretty much hard 790 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: to say, if I mean, come on, that's one of 791 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: the first ones, right, yes, and that's every single guy group. Yeah, 792 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: that is probably the first acapella they ever did. It's 793 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: a great good And then your favorite Degree song was 794 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: Invisible Man, which that was your first, right, Yeah, that 795 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: was our first one. That was my favorite one out 796 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: of all but um, gosh, oh man, I don't know 797 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: still still oh my gosh, yeah that one. All right. 798 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: We've had some fan questions for you, Jeff um, which 799 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: band member of Degrees or in the nineties boy banders 800 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: would you want to see on Dancing with the Stars next? 801 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: This is from Christina or out of any any of them? Well, look, 802 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: j C was a pretty good dancing. He's amazing. Man, 803 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: would he would crush it on that he would Oh 804 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: my god, he would never do it. Yeah, he will 805 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: do it, but leave my backyard anything. But yes, that 806 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: man can dance. He can dance. I mean, oh you 807 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: guys could, but he I thought I remember him being, 808 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, probably one of the best ones. Yeah, yeah, 809 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: I remember because I didn't really say I like the 810 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: Mickey mouse Club but before Justin and j C joined it, 811 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: so I was like early Mickey mouse Club. But I 812 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: do remember after I joined the man, I was watching 813 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: clips of him on that show and he was He's amazing. 814 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: He's amazing, it's incredible. He is good. What's an underrated 815 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: song you wish ninety eight degrees performed more? This is 816 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: from Radium. There's a song we have called Stay the 817 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Night that it's in the tradition of a boy band 818 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: pop song, but they didn't put it out for some reason. 819 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, that we get a lot of requests for 820 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: that one, so I like that one. There's another one 821 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of sad called Yesterday's Letter that we used 822 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: to perform. We don't perform it. We only perform you know. 823 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: Now it's just just to hit it and your legends. 824 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: You have to just get the legendaries. We can tell them, 825 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: that's right, we can tell them what we want. Uh. 826 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever regret your ninety eight degrees tattoo? This 827 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: is from Disney Girl? Well look for a while I 828 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: did so. So when when ninety degrees was not popular 829 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: for a while, I was getting, you know, harassing me, 830 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: like guys in Guitar Center there like did you get this? No? 831 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: I got it. And look it was before he even 832 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: knew we were gonna become popular. So I just like, 833 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, at that time, you just get your your 834 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: tats and your band, right, Um, But yeah, I got it. 835 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: And then Nick had one that he had in his son, 836 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: a smaller one, and then as soon as we felt 837 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: it was falling off a little bit, he filled it in. 838 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: But but I wore long sleeve shirts for a long time, 839 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: and my wife was like, she's like, you gotta own it, 840 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: you gotta own it. And then you know, I just like, yeah, wait, 841 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: how did y'all come up with nine eight degrees? Well 842 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: we were called just us when we started, right, and 843 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: then the label was like that's that name sucks. You 844 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: need to come up with something better, and we made 845 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: this long list of names, I mean like all of us. 846 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: They were probably like two hundred names, and they were 847 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: all bad. We had Verse four, you know, next issue, 848 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: next issue, very like Quintessential boy Band. Yeah, could you 849 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: imagine if they were called Verse four today's world, the 850 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: games will be like we couldn't. We literally could not 851 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: find one. That's stuck and it's to you know, look, 852 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: we say yeah because we were saying love songs and 853 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: it's a hot and we you know, of course had 854 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: our story, but really we couldn't come up with the name. 855 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: And our manager at the time had a you know, 856 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: attractive girlfriend and she was from New York and she 857 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: had a bunch of hot friends and they were like, 858 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: why don't you guys call yourselves degrees? And so we went, okay, cool, 859 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: that was easy. That's kind of great because the name 860 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: really does make a break, and it really can't our 861 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: original name what wasn't going to be anything because Louke 862 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: Proman was like, I got the name Kismut Kismut kismet Um. 863 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: That was definitely vetoed. And then Justin's mom was just like, 864 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, heard everyone saying and she was like, well, 865 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: you are very in sync, and I'm like, yep, that's it, 866 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: And then who thought of using the the initials and 867 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: all that was that after the fact that you guys 868 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: kind of I was wondering if the new nickname because 869 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: the guy replaced with Jason, so I was an end. 870 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: But I'm Land, so I have nothing you know in there, 871 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: and so they started trying to call me Lanston Lanson 872 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: to make it, which was kind of like a fun 873 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: joke for a while, and like and still still some 874 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: people that I worked with back then call me that. 875 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: You still call you funny, but like after it was 876 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna be either London or just to make it work London, 877 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, And then thank god that just fizzled out, 878 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: Like okay, that's that's what Paris Hilton really wanted to 879 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: name her daughter. I was gonna say, that's really crazy, 880 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: simple life and show London. I was the name London. 881 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna name my daughter London, all right. Ao. Alexis 882 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: asked what was it like working with Stevie Wonder on 883 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: the song Fromulan. It was amazing. I mean, you know 884 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: how these things go. You're not always in the studio 885 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: with them, so here we thought, you know, oh man, 886 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in the studio with Stevie. Said no, 887 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: we didn't get to be in the studio with him, 888 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: but we did shoot the video with him, and we 889 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: were so excited and he couldn't have been cooler. Right, 890 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: you never know what to expect because we worked with 891 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: some other people and you know, he disappointed, but he 892 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: was incredible, you know. And the older you get, you 893 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: know a lot of times you just don't sound the 894 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: same anymore. You know. It's just that's what happens with 895 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: your vocal cords. Um, Stevie sounds still kills. He still kills, 896 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and he probably doesn't even warm up or anything. 897 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. He had a trailer on the on 898 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: the video to shoot site and he had like a 899 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: whole studio in there and invited us in and saying 900 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of songs for us, and we're like just tripping. 901 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: We're like look at each other, like wow, this is great. 902 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: It was cool. And that's what's so fun. I mean, 903 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: because I'm just always a fan. That's why I have 904 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: pop culture shows like I just love I pretty much 905 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: con found some love for everyone out there. Um, and 906 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: being able to kind of rub elbows with the people 907 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: that you love and you're trying to be cool, Like, yeah, 908 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean I don't even try to be cool. I 909 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: gave up on it a long time ago. And and 910 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: you're exactly right, like, you know, although we get to 911 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: travel on some of these circles, were blessed it, right, 912 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: we're still fans, right, That's why you got into music 913 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: in the first place, right, because your fans and you know, 914 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, that's We've had some pretty cool, cool 915 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: experiences like that. I love it. I love it well, Jeff. 916 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: It has been rate catching up with you likewise, Um, 917 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: what what is next for you personally? And uh, how 918 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: can everyone stay in touch with you? Yeah, I'm all 919 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: on all the socials. Thanks again for having me again. 920 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: Congrats on the on the babies and they're gorgeous. It 921 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: was great to see them in person, and and thanks 922 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: for you know, having me to be a part of 923 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: Aaron's event. Um, yeah, I'm on all the socials and 924 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, look, there's a lot of there are a 925 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: lot of cool things. I'm working on a lot of 926 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: stuff behind the scenes. I'm in town. Are creating this 927 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: really cool label with some pretty cool partners. We're gonna 928 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: be announcing that that that label and Adventure on February nights, 929 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: so look out for that with some great artists and 930 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: doing some TV stuff, documentaries coming out that I'm working on. 931 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: So just trying to trying to keep busy, always working 932 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: on music. So you've always been so creative, Well, I try. 933 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: It's great your passion. You can tell your passion and 934 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: I love that. Thanks again, happy to do it, love it, 935 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I appreciate you guys. Congrats on the show too. 936 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Alright, Turkey Turching, That's all I 937 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: have for everyone. Is there anything else you would like 938 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: to tell everyone before we let everyone go? Oh god? 939 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: What can I tell? Oh? I was looking at the 940 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: charts and you know we aren't the number one. Yes, 941 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: I did get Since that, I was like, this is 942 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: three weeks in a row number one in music. That's 943 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: incredible because they're like sixty thousand plus podcasts the trust. 944 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: That's incredible. I mean, I've had like three different types 945 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: of shows and we never cracked the top fifty. I 946 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: don't think. But thanks to Heart, they really know how 947 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: to number of people know we're here. So thank you 948 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: for listening who was on the next show? I don't 949 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: think we know yet. We never know. Oh maybe No, 950 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: we don't know, but it is a surprise. But follow 951 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: us on our socials Frosted Tips with Lance um, and 952 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: we will be telling you who's coming up next because 953 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: we love your questions so d M s. We like 954 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: talking to you there, Um Jeff, once again, thank you 955 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: so much for being to appreciate everyone. Be good to 956 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: each other out there, don't drink and drive, and we 957 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: will see you next week on Frosted Tips with Me. Lance. Hey, 958 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at frost the 959 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: Tips with Lance and Michael Urson Art and at Lance 960 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: Bass for all your pop culture needs, and make sure 961 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: to write us a review and leave us five stars 962 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: six as you can see you next time.