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Speaker 2: the size of the fight in the dog. Welcome the

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Speaker 2: Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I am your host, Matt Cox,

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Speaker 2: joined by Jim Root Kaimakan the triumvirate that is the

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Speaker 2: College hoops is the topic. Pounce on all the non

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Speaker 2: We'll get some quick kicks on, but first, money lines

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Speaker 2: have been flying fellas underdogs are barking with vicious attack

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Speaker 1: Not a good struggle for LMU. Second, Kay, I actually

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what his ailment is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the report, the reports around it are not as

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Speaker 1: Well, Crystal Ball, look at you.

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Speaker 2: I actually buy this one as a potential money line upset.

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Speaker 1: Jim, Yes, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So Brown.

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Speaker 1: I wrote up our IVY preview on our three nine

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Speaker 1: I think that might expose them a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Mike Martin's DNA. Now he's been there for

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Speaker 2: A team does not does in no way looks like

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Speaker 1: I put that in the top. Well, so Western Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is classic spot for Western Kentucky to actually

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Speaker 2: Keith Williams is huge. I don't know why the INSTABA

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Speaker 1: You ready for this? Ready for the stat boys, you

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Speaker 1: with one. I like data last four seasons Rick Stansbury

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Speaker 1: at Western Kentucky twenty seven and nine as an underdog

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Speaker 2: That makes so much sense, Like they're fucking bored when

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Speaker 2: it's going to play out perfectly here. I like this, right, So.

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Speaker 1: Even if it's not money line, like I think money

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Speaker 2: I love that. So that's a second Friday one along

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Speaker 2: We got through most of the by games artists. There's

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Speaker 2: Jim start us off with as you lay the case

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Speaker 1: Baylor is hosting Central Arkansas on Wednesday. As you are

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Speaker 1: game tips off. These two teams have played three times

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Speaker 1: in the last four years. Baylor has won by forty one,

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Speaker 1: forty four, and thirty seven. And this is maybe not

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Speaker 2: Last five years.

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Speaker 1: They are bad, bad. This spread's gonna be huge, But

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Speaker 1: I think Baylor, like Matt said, wins by forty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, years, maybe even longer than five years,

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Speaker 2: Baylor just ripped Nickels State. Matthewe a new asshole Nickels

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Speaker 2: State team exactly. Yeah, very good. The Bears are here

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Speaker 1: But Central Arkansas the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Which bear a bear bat bear battle? I totally agree

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Speaker 2: Baylor's killing him. I'm getting something on this game. I

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Speaker 1: Kai, you are a bear ficionado, Which which bear is

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Speaker 1: I assume Baylor is like a grizzly or a polar bear.

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Speaker 1: What we're saying is one bear will maul the other

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Speaker 2: Yes, the Green Bears are coming on top of this one.

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Speaker 2: Let that marinade folks. Let that marriage. Okay, good, Now

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Speaker 2: blowout here, which makes a ton of sense. We just

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Speaker 2: it's a team that's built to run away from bad teams.

429
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Speaker 2: Did Jannie's this Saturday are hosting Bairley Dickinson Ki. We

430
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 2: like Fteru, we just don't like him this season. It's

431
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 2: a young team. It feels like that Saturday morning at

432
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 2: ten am when you go up to play yours in

433
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 2: sixth grade. You're playing two years or a year up

434
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 2: in competition, and this team comes out and impresses you,

435
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,360
Speaker 2: and you lose by fifty and you just can't wait

436
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 2: to go get like a soda at seven eleven after

437
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 2: the game and you give up at a halftime. Feels

438
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 2: like a similar spot here for f to you, yeah,

439
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: or for some of us Matthew, sixth graders who you're

440
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 2: playing against six orders with your Pubert and you have

441
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 2: to yet Yeah, I'm still working, still work on me. No,

442
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 2: this game is going to be terrifying. You saw the

443
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 2: Seaton Hall game against FDU after. You can't stop anyone

444
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: if they tried. They're too young, they play too fast.

445
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 2: Seaton Hall scored one point two to one points per possession.

446
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a lot, a lot, And Saint

447
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 2: John's wants to go. Mike Anderson's gonna have no problem

448
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 2: blowing this team out. He will not step on the

449
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 2: breaks gym. It's going to be blowout Johnny's once again.

450
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm getting something on this game about it the spread.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kai, you said f you can't stop anyone if

452
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: they tried, and I'm not sure they are trying. No,

453
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Their defense has been terrible repeatedly. I

454
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,959
Speaker 1: think we brought up the Seaton Hall game on our

455
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Speaker 1: last week's episode for Blowout of the Week and I

456
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: made the Greg horrenda horrendous defense joke, and I'm gonna

457
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: keep it going because Fairley Dickinson's defense is horrendous always.

458
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, Saint John's has won two games by I'm

459
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Speaker 1: trying to do Matthew fifty eight. They beat Missisippi Valley

460
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Speaker 1: State by and then they beat Saint Peters, who's actually decent,

461
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: like it's a solid second best team in their continence,

462
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 1: probably by twenty one. So I would be surprised if

463
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,959
Speaker 1: this one is not a thirty five plus point blow up.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a loser for me. Thank you for

465
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Speaker 2: reminding me, Jim cordially, f you for that. But I

466
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Speaker 2: think it's a valid point and one that supports our

467
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Speaker 2: case here in general. I'd like to looking ahead, you know,

468
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Speaker 2: we're doing it recording us on a Tuesday. With so

469
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Speaker 2: many games on daily basis in college basketball, you sometimes

470
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: lose like the obvious, you know, no brainer plays, And

471
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Speaker 2: so I think it's like good that you can right

472
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Speaker 2: now circle this as when it comes up on Friday

473
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Speaker 2: that the line drops. That's one you hop in on pounds.

474
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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't just look at my number, maybe like.

475
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like it just kind of hits you in

476
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Speaker 2: the face. And more that if someone slaps in the

477
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 2: face like this matchup, edge does go ahead and take it.

478
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Speaker 2: That's our very perceptive advice. Our third section of the outline,

479
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: we're talking big boys, heavyweight bouts, the power games, plural

480
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Speaker 2: of the week out a few we want to hit.

481
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Speaker 2: There'll be some juice here matchup next week, so I

482
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Speaker 2: would call this more of like a B list trio

483
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Speaker 2: of games, but still some intriguing matchups.

484
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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, the Hall of Fame tip off Scotts that being

485
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Speaker 1: called B list.

486
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot. We do have like legit, legit

487
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Speaker 2: heavyweights coming up for the over the weekend though, so

488
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Speaker 2: it's not we're reaching into the future. Okay, So yeah,

489
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Speaker 2: for those of you who are tardy to listen to

490
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Speaker 2: this podcast, this will be more current. But for those

491
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Speaker 2: listening on Wednesday, you'll have to sit patiently. Let's start

492
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Speaker 2: with Ohio State at Xavier. Thursday is when this game

493
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Speaker 2: is taking place. Battle for Ohio. Two teams that were,

494
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Speaker 2: you know, top fifteen, top twenty five aspirations depending on

495
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Speaker 2: your preseason priors for each squad. A little bit of

496
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Speaker 2: a lame situation with injuries Zach Fremantle for Xavier, Ohio

497
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Speaker 2: State Justice suing among other minor dix Or Dixon dings

498
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: and bruises. Did I say Dixon bruises. Yes, that is

499
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: a tough Freudian slip for me. There, I'll just keep

500
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: on powering thro it. Actually I didn't really didn't really happen,

501
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: but here we are. It's gonna be a tough situation

502
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: for the Buckeyes going into the centas center, Kai and

503
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Speaker 2: I need a very well thought and eloquent take as

504
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Speaker 2: you continue to hold in the laughter of me saying

505
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: Dix on this podcast. Ohio State seems back after that

506
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Speaker 2: Bowling Green blowout. Obviously, Bowling Green was missing one of

507
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: the best players, Kate Methini, but Ohio State was missing

508
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: justice suing Kyle Young is back. That's a huge boost, Jim.

509
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: I guess his inter ear issue is at least manageable currently.

510
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Speaker 1: I always think of arrested development with the vertigo painting

511
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Speaker 1: Lucial too.

512
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Speaker 2: It's especially big because Xavier is still without Zach Fremantle,

513
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 2: uh their second best player behind Paul Scruggs. I am

514
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: hesitating to back Xavior until Freemantle's back in the lineup,

515
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: so it's an automatic lean towards Ohio State. The only

516
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Speaker 2: one angle I can think of for Xavier, Jim is

517
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Speaker 2: it's at Xavier Saviors. Home court is good, their fans

518
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: are passionate, and it's Ohio State. It's in state rival

519
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: that they're planning.

520
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: Travis Steel always seems to win like one or two

521
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: games that really encourage the fan base and make the thing.

522
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Speaker 1: Maybe he's turning the corner. Usually it's the Cincinnati game,

523
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: but this is another big rivalry game that will certainly

524
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: please boosters and please fans if he's able to pull

525
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Speaker 1: it out. But I'm with you, man, without Fremantle, this

526
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: team's been bad. They pulled out a cover against Kent State,

527
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: but it was not deserved. I think they were losing

528
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: at halftime and it got dicey late, and I'm kind

529
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Speaker 1: of getting closer Matt to the E. J. Ladell Naysmith watch.

530
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: He was a monster in the first two games, a

531
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Speaker 1: little bit quieter in the Bowling Green blowout, but I

532
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: think he could average like twenty three a game in

533
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. He's clearly added a three point stroke

534
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: to his arsenal. He's a legitimate, like near forty percent

535
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: shooter from deep I think this is a continued coming

536
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: out party for him. I would I would definitely lean

537
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: towards Ohio State.

538
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost helps that his team is somewhat the

539
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: walking wounder right now. He's really he is the Bell

540
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: Kyle of that squad and they're going They're gonna go

541
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: as far as he takes them, and I think in

542
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: this matchup, he's got a pretty juicy one to dominate,

543
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: so I would lean the buck eyes. There another one, Jim,

544
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: that you'll be in person. This is Friday in the Desert,

545
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Arizona versus Wichitas State, the former of which

546
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: I love, the latter of which I am starting to

547
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: short some stock in. I like the Wildcats a lot,

548
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: point blank. I only have like a great nuanced matchup

549
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: angle here. I just think they're the better team and

550
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: whichital is sort of hanging by a thread living off

551
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: Tyson Ettien's heroics, who also hasn't really been that great

552
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: by the way. So a lot of things to sort

553
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Speaker 2: of sour.

554
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Speaker 1: About wichital Yeah, struggling with illness.

555
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: Get some yeah, some non COVID illness thing.

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

557
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Speaker 2: This is similar to Western Kentucky in my opinion, which

558
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: toss State is much better as a dog. So you've

559
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: seen them against Jacksonville State South Alabama so far, having

560
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: covered other game, haven't looked particularly good. They are big

561
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: favorites in both. The're off to a rocky start, but

562
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: they're much better as a dog. This is going to

563
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: be a fairly large spread. I think I wouldn't be shocked,

564
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Speaker 2: Jim A nice shockers if they kept this game close.

565
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Well kay, I'm looking at the Ken Pond projection is

566
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: three so wow, well too low. I will be on

567
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: Arizona if it is three.

568
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I will too.

569
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Speaker 1: I just think Arizona is like a top twenty ish

570
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: team and Wichita's more like sixtieth ish kind of where

571
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: they finished last year, especially if ETN can't get right Matt.

572
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: The one I'm kind of more intrigued by is let's

573
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Speaker 1: take the assumption that Arizona wins, they would play Michigan,

574
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Speaker 1: assuming Michigan beats UNLV on a Sunday night headliner Arizona Michigan.

575
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Any quick thoughts on that one? If we if we

576
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Speaker 1: get it, this could sound stupid in the future, but

577
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to get.

578
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Speaker 2: That one man. Michigan is just a team. I'm not

579
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: looking to get in the way up right now, but

580
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: I would lean the foreign feelines, as I call Arizona

581
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: the team that's basically a bunch of non US dudes.

582
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: I just like this Arizona makeup kir Chris at the

583
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: point guard looks like he has that settled. The Bigs

584
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: are awesome. We love Tommy Lloyd os Oi. I would

585
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: lean the cats there. Let's get to some Air Force

586
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: Reserve Hall of Fame tip off Saturday Sunday, Villanova versus Tennessee,

587
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: Perdue versus North Carolina. The Tari Hills do not belong

588
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: in this class of teams KAI based on how they've

589
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: played so far. Yeah, it's a that shot deserves to

590
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 2: be fired. I'm sorry, I don't know how you can.

591
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: You can't skin that cat any other Differently, I'm sorry.

592
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: You can't get away from Loyola Maryland at home. You

593
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: can't get away from Brown Hebert Davis. It could be

594
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: exposed against Purdue here, what say you? Yeah? And Perdue

595
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: looks pretty unstoppable. I know we've only seen them against

596
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: Bellerman and Indiana State, as is the recording of this podcast,

597
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: but they look could and they have so much size

598
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: to battle you and C. And that's kind of U

599
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: and C's advantage over most teams. They have size, they

600
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: have Bake hot Garcia Mannick, a very very intimating front line,

601
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: one of the best in the country. It's not going

602
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: to be as effective against Williams and Edie of Purdue.

603
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: So I think it's a major advantage for Purdue. Purdue

604
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: has solid guards, you and c maybe has better guards.

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Speaker 1: Gym.

606
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: They're going to be relying on them a whole lot

607
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: in this game. Caleb Love has not been terrible this year.

608
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 2: He has a one to twenty eight.

609
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: What R J.

610
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: Davis is playing great? So U and C his guard

611
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: are going to be on full display in this game.

612
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: We'll see what the spread is. Ken Pump suggests it's eight.

613
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: That feels pretty high for a mutral. I'd probably lean

614
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: towards the tart heels.

615
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: That does feel high for that matchup. Ky, you need

616
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: to answer for Dawson Garcia. It's fifth on the team,

617
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: fifth on the team, and usage came off the bench

618
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: in one of the games. He's their third big right now,

619
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: like kind of indisputably their third best big. What's happened?

620
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: He started the second game though, Jim, I think he's

621
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: going to get more minutes.

622
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: All right, Brady Mannick has been like their highest used

623
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: go to guy at this point.

624
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: It is kind of bizarre. Yeah, that is bizarre, Jim, Hey,

625
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: it's a weird team. It's a weird team right now,

626
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: I don't quite understand that team. The defensively, they have

627
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: real major issues. So until I show up outside of

628
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: the ball, I'm not U and C will be having

629
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: none of my money. That's where I'm at with them.

630
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: Which team is more likely to prevent the Villanova Perdue meeting?

631
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Do you think Tennessee pulling the upset? Do you think

632
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: North Carolina pulling the upset Tennessee? I think tell me,

633
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: why tell me?

634
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you why. No, I'm I

635
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: just think the balls. The balls are more bullet proof

636
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: to me, they have less holes. So I'm looking at

637
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: Tennessee here. I know they're it's not the same Tennessee

638
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: as we saw last year. They actually have some creation,

639
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: some dynamic shot making at the point of attack, a

640
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: little more balanced. Awesome has been awesome, and Fulkerson is

641
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: getting healthier. I know he's not at one hundred percent

642
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: most likely, but he's a key piece up front, and

643
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: they have just a bunch of men on the wing

644
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: that I think are great neutralizers. So I'm looking at

645
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee to potentially win this little foursome pot here. Wow Wow, Wow.

646
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: Rocky Incomton Hua, which I'm sure I'm butchering his name.

647
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a Kamla.

648
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: I believe he's come out of nowhere. Who is he?

649
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Who is he? He's starting for them, He's looking really good.

650
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, Tennessee's awesome. JJJ is great, like they're a

651
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: complete package. This game versus Fillanova is gonna be awesome

652
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: because we very very very much like the Cats. They

653
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: should have beat in Ucla. They lost in over time.

654
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: This is like the best matchup of the week.

655
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I think pop quiz where is Kamwa from nationality? Saint Louis, Missouri, Finland.

656
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: He's finished as.

657
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: A Nordic man of sorts? Interesting? Yep, good fun fact, Jim.

658
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate that no matter what, we are.

659
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Getting four good games. I don't care who wins. Who'd

660
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: be two. We're getting four awesome games from this little

661
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: tip off. Cannot wait for it. We're going to be

662
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: tuned in on Saturday and Sunday.

663
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: It's great that I can name like ten players in Tennessee,

664
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 2: but I can't name their best players so far this year.

665
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: So that's that's tough. Fourth section the mid major special

666
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: of the week, sort of an undercard for many who

667
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: may not be tracking. Not a ton of great ones here.

668
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Want to highlight two Oakland hosting Toledo. This is Wednesday evening. Jim,

669
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: the creator of Toledo Faders Anonymous. I'm starting to see

670
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: enrollment skyrocket again. They look really good. Yet again, I

671
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: have not faded them myself yet, so I haven't fallen

672
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: back into any sort of relapse or addictive patterns. Again,

673
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: I did not.

674
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: I thought you took Detroit.

675
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: No, it's true. I did take Detroit and they should

676
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: card that game. You're right, so I have. I'm kind

677
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: of in the corner still abusing the substances. I haven't

678
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: enrolled though, I haven't taken accountbility for my actions. Again,

679
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: if I do take Oakland in here and Toledo wins

680
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: this game outright or covers, I will be enrolling officially

681
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: next week. What do you see in this matchup?

682
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: I will probably be on Toledo. Ken Palm has this

683
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: as Toledo minus one. I'll just Toledo's better. Yeah, well,

684
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to learn from my past mistakes. Man.

685
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: That's part of the process of king. For the listeners

686
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: that are not familiar with it, we bet against Toledo

687
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: a lot last year early in the season, and they

688
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: were a juggernaut. I believe they started like ten to

689
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: one against the spread. So we formed our little Toledo Fighters,

690
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: anonymous support group. I'm going the other way this year.

691
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to be Toledo backer loudly rather

692
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: than anonymous Toledo public backer. That's what I am.

693
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm kind of done doubting Oakland after they cover against

694
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: West Virginia at beat Ocloma State. That was impressive. It

695
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: seems like Grape Campy has finally figured out the zone. However,

696
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: that Toledo can shoot the shit out of the ball.

697
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: They're a very, very tough team to zone. If any

698
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: team can shoot Oakland out of this zone, it is Toledo.

699
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: So advantage Rockets in that sense.

700
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's regression coming for Oakland too. Opponent have made

701
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: eighteen percent of their threes through two games and just

702
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: fifty three percent of their free throws. Like that ain't

703
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: sticking around, especially it's a good shooting team like Toledo.

704
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the over actually has some value here.

705
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Jamal Kane could have thirty forty. I don't really see

706
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: a good matchup for Toledo on that side of the ball.

707
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: So he's a stud. Former Marquette transfer Craig Campy calls

708
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: him their batman, so he's given him like, yep, you're

709
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: awesome and this offense is yours. So him and Jalen

710
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: Moore one of the best one to two punches in

711
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: all of Mid Major. Tim second mid Major. We want

712
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: to highlight here, Saint Peter's at Wagner. Kind of a

713
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: New York Big Apples showdown here. Wagner has been a

714
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: mini wrecking ball so far this season. Any C, Yeah,

715
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: major wrecking. I'm probably understanding that ANYC favorites preseason with

716
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Bryant one A, one B depending on how you rank

717
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: those teams in the NEC. And then Saint Peter's at

718
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: the top of the MAC total pole as well. I

719
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: kind of like Wagner, Jim, what are you looking at here?

720
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting both these teams have played at VCU.

721
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: It's weird to have a common opponent this early in

722
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: the season. They'll transitive property like this, yeah, and so

723
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's flawless, it never fails, transit property perfect.

724
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's got down big early but ended up coming

725
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: back only losing by three to VCU, whereas Wagner just

726
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: controlled that game, like totally control them on the road,

727
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: won that game by I believe double digits, and Wagner

728
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: isn't even making shots yet this year they're shooting twenty

729
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: nine percent from deep and they've still been excellent. This

730
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be a rock fight. Though both teams are slow,

731
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: Saint Peter's much much better defensively than they are on offense.

732
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: This kind of double is our next category, Matt. Maybe

733
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: we use this as a little transition to the Claire

734
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Eyes out Game of the Week.

735
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: We should point out Saint Peter's is in New Jersey

736
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: for the listeners at home, Matt, you said it was

737
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: New York battle, but we know Jersey City. Yeah, you

738
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: can throw a stone headed you don't know gets your

739
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: New York geography. Wagner's on Staten Island. I just think

740
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: you're you're a borrow kind of. It's it's literally one

741
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: of the literally is a borough. Sorry, not kind of.

742
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: It is a borrough, yes, but New York's that's misleading anyways,

743
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Wagner's legit. I think they're better than Bryant, so I

744
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: think they are the NEC favorites. Gim is right, rock fight.

745
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna bet on Wagner in this game.

746
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: For the record, I AM's biggest fan this year as

747
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: a holder of a rather sizable fifty to one to

748
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: win the NEC ticket, so that I have a feeling

749
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: that's going to come up more than once on the

750
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: pod this year. Go Wagner, Seahawks.

751
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Hey, you and me both brother, we're rooting for the

752
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: same horse. I have a theory the books just like

753
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: fat fingered the odds on Wagner, like they didn't actually

754
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: mean to make it. Was it plus? What's the price

755
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: you guys are holding fifty to one? Fifty to one

756
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: for the conference favorite. I think they just meant to

757
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: put five to one and actually hit the extra zero.

758
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Here's what I think happened. Because their four best players

759
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: are super seniors, and they were all going to be gone,

760
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: and they were not included in initial projections.

761
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: For this year.

762
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I think bart Torvik site did not have the super seniors,

763
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: and they use that and then suddenly you add their

764
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: four best players, including two first team All Conference guys

765
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: and a Player of the Year caliber player, and they

766
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: vault up. And they never adjusted the price, so let's

767
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: go Wagner.

768
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: You guys need to tip Bart when that ticket eventually cashes.

769
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: What knock just happens, so you quick call your eyes

770
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: out Game of the Week. We don't like to spend

771
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: too much time in the section cause it's not fun

772
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: to talk talk about obviously not fun to watch, but

773
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: there are betting opportunities for these basically throwaway type games.

774
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: Iu p ui at Utsa. This is Wednesday again. A

775
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: lot of Wednesday content here. More incentive you guys to

776
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: listen to the second this thing drops. I don't know

777
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: why this tournament exists, but UTSA is hosting like this

778
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: mini MTE pod of four atrocious basketball teams, and so

779
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: this will be I believe, the third game in three

780
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: days for both squads. The Roadrunners are hosting the Jaguars.

781
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Both teams kay first year underneath regimes. It is the

782
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: ultimate rebuilt from the ground up. It's bad versus worse.

783
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: I don't know who's the worst. I think UTSA actually

784
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: might be the worst team. No, I don't think so,

785
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: but too far it is gross. It's very worthy of

786
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: clawi your eyes out Game of the Week, which is

787
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: a very clunky title. That's my mistake still works, shopping

788
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: still work shopping. UTSA is being inflated currently in markets

789
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: from the last couple of years when they had Jackson

790
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: and Wallace, two of the best scorers in the country

791
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: for four years, so they're not nearly that caliber team anymore.

792
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: They lost it text saying him Commerce the other day

793
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: a team that will be D one but isn't quite yet.

794
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: They're D two. So yeah, this game's gonna be gross.

795
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: Who knows what the spread's gonna be. I'm sure you

796
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: TSA is gonna be favorit like ten, maybe eleven. And

797
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: even though I hate Ie Pu i Jim, it's really

798
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: tempting to bet on them.

799
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I up Ui is cheeks man. This stinks out loud.

800
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: They lost by sixteen to Denver in this exact event

801
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: on Monday. It's brutal. I'm with you, though, kay, that

802
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: eleven is way too high because I think UTSA is

803
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: down there in the dumps with them. UTSA shouldn't be

804
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: favored by double digits over almost anyone, so yeah, this

805
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: would be a cup of your eyes. Don't watch and

806
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: potentially back a bad, bad, bad basketball team, and.

807
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: Iupui I'll hold your nose bet on the cheeks. Yep,

808
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: I'll probably bed the under. It's weird Ie Puis coach

809
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: that he wanted to run this season, but like every

810
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: coach for King says that it's like a talking point,

811
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: that it's almost like it's a mandatory point to read.

812
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: I wonder they said it before he looked at his

813
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: roster and just so, oh, I have no good players.

814
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Well, I think he said it to Blue Ribbon, which

815
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: was what in September or something, so like he had

816
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: at least a month of practice. I don't know if

817
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: you just like, have you epiphany too late, But yeah,

818
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: two bad teams in each tsa their total price, if

819
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: you will, might be inflated by as Kai Metz and

820
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: the Jackson Wells's. In fact, I'll probab look at the

821
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: under in that one as you always should, and they

822
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: call your eyes out game. Our final section of our

823
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: six pack, we're gonna talk about some tournaments, real quick hitters,

824
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: four big ones coming up. Obviously, the Maui is the headliner. Well,

825
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna start with there and then pick out a

826
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: few opening round matchup angles for the other three. The

827
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: Charleston Classic, the Myrtle Beach Imitational in the Virgin Islands.

828
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: Want I want everyone picking a winner of these fields

829
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: as well.

830
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: I have a winner in the Charleston Myrtle in Virgin

831
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Island opening round. Kay, want you to te those up

832
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 2: while I let Jim kick us off with the Maui context,

833
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: because we're all excited to have Mali back. But two

834
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: things that will make this a little bit less esthetically

835
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: pleasing as we hoped. One, it's not in Maui, which

836
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: fucking pisses me off because I'm literally going to Maui

837
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: and there will be no tournament there.

838
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I may hope you go to the Lion in the

839
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: Civic Center and just sit there set.

840
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit there like I'll probably take all these

841
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: stupid videos and me dunking on the I can't really

842
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: dunk by the I'll over dunk. I'll get a little

843
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: ladder up there and kind of hold hold myself and

844
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: hang on the rim and whatever. I don't know, that's

845
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: so stupid. And secondly, Jim, all these teams are slow paced, boring,

846
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: old school drag out type teams, aren't they.

847
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's painful. They're pace rankings right now at ken

848
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: Pom as we record this three hundred and third, three

849
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: twenty first, three point thirty two, three forty three, forty one,

850
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 1: three forty three, three point fifty three. It is going

851
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: to be half court brawl style ball. It is a

852
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: disappointment in that regard, but at least there are some

853
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: solid teams here. We've got Oregon, We've got Houston. Get

854
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: me that championship game and I'll be happy. Notre Dame

855
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: in Saint Mary's also pretty feisty. Kind of a bummer

856
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: that they're playing in the opening round because I think

857
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: they should both be in the semi final side. Apologies

858
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin in Texas A and M but you are

859
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: both consolation squads at this stage. Yeah, Matt, it's it's

860
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: just going to be gross. I don't know if I

861
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: want to fully recommend unders, just because I think everyone

862
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: knows these teams are slow. Everyone knows it's going to

863
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: be inefficient, so it's.

864
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Probably really price ten Yeah, and we don't have the.

865
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: Civic Center rims to carry us tenny overs. So unfortunately,

866
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: not a lot of a severe angle there unless you

867
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: really want to just go for it neutral site, especially

868
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: in like the second and third day, maybe that's when

869
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: you go for the unders when teams are tired.

870
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the malle overs have been a thing.

871
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to run the numbers real quick here on

872
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: the fly, But you're right, everything sets up for the

873
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: for to swing the other way. Kai any opening round

874
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: locks for this the maue, I think, yeah, it's hard

875
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: to say that well spread. I would take Houston at

876
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: almost any number over Butler, especially if Aaron Thompson is

877
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: still on the Pine, because that team is terrible. You

878
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: talk about IDPUI, Butler was in a dogfight with ip

879
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: U I in the first game of the season. They

880
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: could be super bad without Aaron Thompson the floor. It's

881
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: going to be Houston Oregon in the championship. I think

882
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: Oregon's gonna win it. I think Saint Mary's is my

883
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: dark horse, but I think Orton's probably the right pick.

884
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there'll be like future odds for this.

885
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: I don't believe there usually there is. There are definitely yep,

886
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: we've talked about it on the show before. In fact,

887
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: you did. I probably blacked out anyway. I think Saint

888
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: Mary's has a good value. I think Organ is probably

889
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: the right favorite, but I would take Saint Mary's is

890
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of a sneaky dark horse.

891
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm picking an organ.

892
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm with you Kai, Chalky for Kai and Jim, a

893
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: little bit cute for Matt. All good value though so

894
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: good for us. Let's get the other three turns real

895
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: quick here Charleston Classic. Eight interesting teams, none that really

896
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: likes stick out. The one matchup I want to highlight

897
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: a personal early round edge for me is Boise against

898
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: Saint Bonaventure. See the Bonni's played twice now. This team

899
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a hangover, is still lingering.

900
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: They've had some slow starts shun o'shoony, their interior full crumb,

901
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: is a little bit dicey. They've had some good play

902
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: from their backup in Klabe, but it's just not the

903
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: same team.

904
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: What did you call their backup?

905
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: I thought it was a bought's b a b y balipe.

906
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: All right, we'll tell the prompters wrong, so I blame

907
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: you for for messing up that script. The shun backup,

908
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: whose name I will not pronounce again, has been pretty solid,

909
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: but it's still not the same Bonnie team we saw

910
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: last year. They've lost the mojo Kai. I'm taking the

911
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: Bucks in this game, the Bucking Brons of Boise. Okay, yeah,

912
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: we'll see what the spread is. Uh. I think Clemson

913
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: might win the tournament. I think they're just like, oh yeah,

914
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not pretty, but Brownell just kind of

915
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: just wins with this team. The defense is just always awesome.

916
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see Marquette after that. Illinois win is

917
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: at the start of something great. It is a winnable

918
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: tournament like this field's wide open. I think I think

919
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: any of these teams can win. Matt Bonnie's are probably

920
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: the favorite. I'm not condensed in West Virginia quite yet.

921
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll go ahead and get cute, as you

922
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: like to say, and take Clemson.

923
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Nice. Glad you're geting cute because I'm staying chocky. I

924
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: think Saint Bonaventure has been uninterested in playing a couple

925
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: of not great MAC schools, and they will turn it

926
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: on a little bit here, and especially if Shoon is back.

927
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: I think he's hopeful to play Thursday, as the last

928
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: report I saw, So I'm gonna go with the Bonnies.

929
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: If Shoon is out, I'll go with Ole Miss. How

930
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: about that?

931
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: Kai Adam believe it the fighting Kerments Ribbit, I like it.

932
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Jim always like current. Let's hit a few others. The

933
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach Invitational. I have no profound takes here, Kyle.

934
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: What sticks out in this first round? Four some for sure?

935
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: Davidson versus Mexico State. It's an awesome matchup between two

936
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: mid majors. Two completely different teams in terms of style,

937
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: Like one's super physical Mexico State, one's more finesse in

938
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: my eyes, at least with Bob mckillops offense. So that's

939
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: gonna be great to watch. Oklahoma has been great so far.

940
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: They've kind of killed everyone they've played. We'll see if

941
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: they can dominate this tournament. They should be the favorites.

942
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: And then Utah State. Jim a team that after watching

943
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: them against Richmond, I am coming around with them. I

944
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: think they're going to kill Penn. Penn's defense is a

945
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: sieve right now. That will be a matchup. I'll be

946
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: looking to fade the Quakers in the opening round.

947
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm calling Utah State again. UNBC West, that's what

948
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: we're going with. With their coach and two of their

949
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: four best players are UNBC guys, I'm with you. Penn's

950
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: struggling defensively right now, and Utah State's offense. UNBC West

951
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: offense looked sharp against Richmond, like a lot of really

952
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: good cutting, some shooting around the perimeter. They're big guys

953
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: can space the floor, justin bean Thatt's boy, you know,

954
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: had a career high in that one. So yeah, that's

955
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: that's the first round matchup that I'm looking at. Also,

956
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: I think old de Mini will probably crush Indiana State,

957
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: who is mega shorthanded and figuring out a new up

958
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: tempo style right now.

959
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: I agree to the point on Pen. I want to

960
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: underscore is the teams the obvis that upset out last year.

961
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: I think we saw the rust impact defense almost more

962
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: than offense. I think Angoli people think it's going to

963
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: hurt offense by their defense, but I think it's actually

964
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: the other way. Yeah, we've seen Penn really trouble to

965
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: guard people. Harvard same boat as well. I have no

966
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: profound opening round locks there. However, the Virgin Islands Paradise Jam,

967
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: which concludes our tournament spot white section, I'm looking at

968
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: the Bradley Braves who are playing Colorado State. Seen everyone

969
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: likes and I'm sorry I will die on this Bradley, help,

970
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: They have not looked good so far. You will die

971
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: on the sill. I may have already I have, I've

972
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: already been I'm already dead. I may have already been

973
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: pronounced dead. But I am looking for reincarnation. The best

974
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: player to Sean Henry did not play last game. Does

975
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: that mean you should lose to Howard at home? No,

976
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't. It doesn't excuse that lose.

977
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: It is the most generous term you could have used.

978
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: Lost by twelve, murdered by Howard Jim all the more

979
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: reason why you're going to be getting inflated value in

980
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: this price. I would have hoped this spread opens. Kempom

981
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: has it at twelve. I hope it's even higher than that.

982
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: I just think Bradley is going to take a little

983
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: bit of time, So maybe I'm jumping the gun here, Kai.

984
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: But the Braves have length, they're built to defend, and

985
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: they caught a South Dakota State team the opening night

986
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: that I think is a mini juggernaut in the making

987
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: right now. So I think we'll look back at that

988
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: loss and forgive it, look back at the Howard loss

989
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: later and be like it was an outlier. Without Henry,

990
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: and we'll be talking about Bradley as an upper half

991
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: Missouri value team by the end of the year, although

992
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: I guess that's not really saying much at this point.

993
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: Given Vals, I think you're drunk.

994
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: I know you're wrong for this.

995
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: Bradley roster is terrible. They're not good, They're bottom half.

996
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: It's bad Missouri Valley team. They're going to get killed

997
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: by caliad of State, who is firing on all cylinders.

998
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: I will be on the Rams in that game, and

999
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be a centennial state championship. That's Colorado

1000
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: for all you did at home, Colorado States, Colorado. The

1001
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: Buffs might win the tournament, but I'm taking the Rams

1002
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: smallest of small dark horse play on Northeastern. If Joe

1003
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: Pridgen is back in the lineup.

1004
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: But had officially ineligible for this season.

1005
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh, is he strays and should be back? I think so,

1006
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: then scratch that. No, Northeastern, just Colorado and Colorado State.

1007
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: Talked him off the ledge real quick there, folks, Yep, yeah, yeah, Matt.

1008
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm unfortunately with Kai. I watched that Howard game. Bradley

1009
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: has no talent offensively. It is dark and I know

1010
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: Henry didn't play, but Tevin Inen is also out there,

1011
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: their key shooter. I think they need him for spacing.

1012
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: They're they're in trouble. Colorado State's the best team in

1013
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: this field if they're healthy. They've got a little bit

1014
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: of banged up injury issues. Kendall Moore and David Roddy

1015
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: dealing with things. But I think Colorado State will win

1016
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: assuming those guys playing.

1017
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: I have nothing for them to add. That concludes our episode. Folks,

1018
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: thank you for tuning in. Hopefully you tuned in on Wednesday,

1019
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1020
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1021
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