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Speaker 1: Our three Clay and Buck kicks off now.

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Speaker 2: In case you didn't know, In case you hadn't heard,

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Speaker 2: rough day in the market's Dow down over nine hundred points,

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Speaker 2: Nasdaq cratering three percent. Markets around the world having a

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Speaker 2: rough one, and people are starting to say, hold on

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Speaker 2: a second. You mean that really weak employments picture that

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Speaker 2: was talked about on Friday that we found out about,

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Speaker 2: and the thirty five trillion dollars of debt that we have,

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Speaker 2: and the fact that we have a FED that seems

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Speaker 2: to be a trillion dollars late and a trillion dollars

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Speaker 2: short all the time.

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Speaker 1: Not good. Not good.

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Speaker 2: This is something that you know, you could look at

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Speaker 2: and say has been coming for a long time. But

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Speaker 2: we also need to remember the Biden White House said

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Speaker 2: that they had fixed it, that the recovery happened, that

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Speaker 2: things were good, things are great, all right. Things aren't

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Speaker 2: feeling so great right now for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: A lot of concern out there, a lot of worries

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Speaker 2: about what this market is.

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Speaker 1: Going to do.

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Speaker 2: And that is also something that I think could matter

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Speaker 2: in this election that we are in the thick of now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we usually August would be a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a lull, but in the political cycle. But we

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Speaker 2: have the DNC coming up. We have the elect of

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Speaker 2: the choice, not the election, the choice of Kamala's VP

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Speaker 2: to be announced tomorrow. All indicators are it will be Joshapiro.

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Speaker 2: This will be announced in Philadelphia at a Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: for President rally. Will this help them shore up Pennsylvania?

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Speaker 2: And what does this mean going forward? I am We're

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Speaker 2: returning to a theme today, a broad theme, which is

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Speaker 2: that I am more optimistic at this stage than Clay

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Speaker 2: Trump's chances. Trump isn't defeated. I'm sorry, Clay isn't defeatist

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Speaker 2: at all, but he's worried. Right's fair to say you

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Speaker 2: have concern.

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Speaker 1: Over the numbers. I have concern over the last two

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Speaker 1: weeks that things have gone in Kamala's direction and with

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Speaker 1: her VP announcement tomorrow and then what you know is

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Speaker 1: basically going to be a hagiography coming at the DNC,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that Trump has not been I don't

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Speaker 1: think on the top of his game in terms of messaging,

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Speaker 1: that has turned this into I think Trump would be favored,

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Speaker 1: But if I were looking at analyzing this, I'd say

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Speaker 1: it's like fifty five percent chance Trump wins forty five

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Speaker 1: percent Kamala, And when it was Biden, I was like

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Speaker 1: eighty five ninety percent Trump. I didn't see any way

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Speaker 1: two weeks have not helped. Now here's how I see it.

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Speaker 2: If we can get the American people to pay enough

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Speaker 2: at ten to who Kamala Harris really is as a leader,

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Speaker 2: as a politician, this is going to start to skew

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Speaker 1: And we had mentioned this before, Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Is in public, I wouldn't say, you know, Biden, they

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Speaker 2: used to talk about how he was a gaff machine,

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Speaker 2: first it was just Biden was kind of a jerk

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Speaker 2: so he was a not very smart jerk with dementia,

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Speaker 2: and they were still telling everybody, Oh, you know, isn't

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Speaker 2: it so charming when Joe says something really just obtuse

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Speaker 2: or dumb. Kamala has the same situation. This was a flashback.

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Speaker 2: Now this is a few years so this is years ago.

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Speaker 2: This is not about cognitive decline.

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Speaker 1: This is more about political ability, or one's ability to.

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Speaker 2: connect with an audience. Kamala was trying to explain this

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Speaker 1: Cut five.

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Speaker 2: Here guys that the cloud, as in the Internet, cloud

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Speaker 2: is this thing that like exists above us, you know,

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Speaker 1: Play it.

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Speaker 3: No longer are you necessarily keeping those private files in

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Speaker 3: It's on your laptop and it's then therefore up here

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Speaker 3: in this cloud that exists above us. Right, It's no

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Speaker 2: The cloud doesn't really exist above us its servers. But

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Speaker 2: put that aside for a second, Clay Kamala Harris speaks

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Speaker 2: to people like she thinks that they are idiots. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if she knows that she speaks

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is like cheap shot stuff. I

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Speaker 2: I think that voters, when they hear her talking to them,

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Speaker 2: The best example of that, I think is when she

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Speaker 2: And I'm paraphrasing here because I jotted it down. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't exist in a physical place. It's above us. Above

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Speaker 2: us is a physical place. When she's described describing how

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Speaker 1: And she's every mean about it too, as we find

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Speaker 1: That's what she does. And to me, that's scary because

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Speaker 1: Biden doesn't have the mental or physical capacity to be president.

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Speaker 1: I think almost everybody had agreed on that. But Kamala

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Speaker 1: So that's almost scarier on some level because Biden at

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Speaker 2: Well, this is why there's this storyline that the Democrats

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Speaker 2: go on that debates day, for example, and say I

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Speaker 2: want to ban fracking. But you also look like a

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Speaker 2: inexcusably dumb thing to say, and also a reckless thing

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Here's the problem. Fetterman said

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Speaker 1: is what they're doing right now. It's a cleanup on

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Speaker 1: I said I didn't believe in fracking, but I'm taking

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Speaker 1: that back now. I said, defund the police, and I

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Speaker 1: the Trump economy pre COVID and they're gonna say, for

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Speaker 1: kind of your thesis, although you don't have the football argument,

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Speaker 1: like in your head, you just don't think blue collar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no way, that's in my mind. That's just not

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do think that any hope that that

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Speaker 2: because a lot of it is also you know, social

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the factors into every for everybody in different ways,

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Speaker 1: So I think that that's gone.

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Speaker 2: I just think that the the you know, white working

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck Sexton show. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: He was kind a little a little testy over on.

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Speaker 1: What's his nickname for him? Slopp Adopolis, right, instead of Stephanopolis.

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Speaker 5: She has a Jamaican father and Indian mother. She's always

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Speaker 1: The man is sir? One second? So you just did it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, George, the one who keeps repeating it's you've done it. Sure,

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Speaker 5: That is exactly my point. You simply can't say that

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Speaker 1: George, ap did.

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Speaker 5: Not say that Kamala Harris is not black. She is biracial,

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Speaker 2: Can I just say democrat operative posing as journalist George Stephanopolis.

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Speaker 1: But what he said is she tries to be all

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Speaker 2: I share that same view.

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Speaker 1: Apparently got his nanny pregnant when he had a ten

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Speaker 1: Some might say that's a bit weird if you want

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Speaker 1: to call like they've been going after jd Vance for

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Speaker 1: saying that cat ladies without kids. I haven't seen Kamala's

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Speaker 1: husband attacked as much for getting a nanny pregnant. But

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Speaker 1: when I look at Kamalin, I've said this for some time.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama connected well with the Black American community because

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Speaker 1: he married Michelle and he had two kids, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of black families in America could look at Barack

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Speaker 1: and Michelle Obama and say that is an aspirational version

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Speaker 1: of what we would like to have a couple of kids.

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Speaker 1: Highly successful parents families matter a lot in politics. Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris has no children of her own, she didn't get

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Speaker 1: married till she was forty nine. She married a white

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Speaker 1: Jewish lawyer from la and she in general has appeared

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Speaker 1: to be picking her partners based on their ability to

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Speaker 1: rise her up in the political arena. She started when

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Speaker 1: her twenty sleeping with a sixty year old man who

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Speaker 1: gave her two jobs tallying four hundred thousand dollars. And

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Speaker 1: now we find out that her husband got divorced because

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Speaker 1: he got his nanny pregnant when he had a ten

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Speaker 1: year old and a five year old living in the house.

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Speaker 1: I would submit to you that Kamala Harris and Doug

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Speaker 1: what's his name, em Hooff, her husband, do not look

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Speaker 1: very much like the average black family in America. No

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Speaker 1: kids of Kamala's own, and she married a white Jewish guy.

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Speaker 1: I think there is a lot of identity conversations going on,

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Speaker 1: because now Kamala wants to show up and say, if

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Speaker 1: you're black, you should be voting for me.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, she's trying to argue this is

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Speaker 2: where it's introduced in the conversation in a way where

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Speaker 2: it becomes something that people are going to want to address,

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Speaker 2: which is Kamala. Kamala's appeal is I am a part

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Speaker 2: of it? Is I am a black woman. Therefore I

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Speaker 2: understand the issues of the black community more. Black voters

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Speaker 2: can trust me more because of that shared experience. And

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Speaker 2: there are some black people as well as other people

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Speaker 2: who are saying, hold on a second, and that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's all this, And it's just interesting that George Defhanopolis

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Speaker 2: would get so surly with Byron Donald's a black man

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Speaker 2: and lecture him about Kamala Harris and her you know,

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Speaker 2: blackness visa VI or you know, the the black authenticity

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Speaker 2: that she has when it comes to the black community.

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Speaker 1: Now, the question I don't know the answer to. And

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Speaker 1: I actually took some calls on this Thursday and Friday

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Speaker 1: from black listeners because I was curious how it plays

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Speaker 1: in that community. Buck, you and I are white guys.

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's race has nothing to do with whether I

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Speaker 1: personally am going to vote for her or not. I

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Speaker 1: think she's wrong on the economy, I think she's wrong

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Speaker 1: on the border, I think she's wrong on crime, and

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Speaker 1: I think she will be a disastrous president. For the

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Speaker 1: three things that I care about the most. Those are

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Speaker 1: the three things that I care about the most personally.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Tim Scott had won the Republican primary,

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Speaker 2: we'd be sitting here talking about how we are all

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Speaker 2: in on, you know, for Jim Scott. And you know,

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Speaker 2: this is the way Republicans actually think. We just want

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Speaker 2: the best people in these jobs, and we want the

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Speaker 2: best leadership we can possibly get. It's not about checking boxes.

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Speaker 2: It's not about the superficiality of someone is more worthy

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Speaker 2: or less worthy than an immutable characteristic or because of

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Speaker 2: an immutable characteristic. It's just assessing them. As we look

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Speaker 2: at everybody as an individual human being. The left views

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Speaker 2: them as members of groups, and some groups need to

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Speaker 2: be advanced.

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Speaker 1: That's how they say. So the question I have is

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Speaker 1: how is this And I don't think there's an easy answer.

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Speaker 1: How does this play in the black community? And is

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Speaker 1: Trump making that conversation more or less likely to occur

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Speaker 1: in the black community. We had a caller, I think

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Speaker 1: on Friday Buck who called in. I think it was

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Speaker 1: a black guy from Virginia, and he said, this is

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Speaker 1: why Byron Donald's as a VP, he could have made

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Speaker 1: this argument because he's a black guy, and he could say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the black community's having this conversation about who's going to

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Speaker 1: advance our cause is the best? Should we do identity

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Speaker 1: politics because Kamala Harris claims that she's a black woman,

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Speaker 1: or should we pick the person who's going to address

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Speaker 1: the economic, border and crime issues, and that maybe that

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Speaker 1: conversation plays differently inside of the black community. If Trump

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Speaker 1: had on his ticket a vice president who was black.

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Speaker 1: I'm open to that idea. I thought it was an

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Speaker 1: interesting one. My concern is when Trump spends time on this,

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Speaker 1: this is what Kamala wants to talk about. She wants

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Speaker 1: to talk about being a woman and being black. She

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Speaker 1: wants to play the identity politics card. Are we going

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Speaker 1: too much into that arena and fighting a battle on

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Speaker 1: her terms when they're way more fertile areas to be

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Speaker 1: attacking her on. I think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean even that it's convenient timing in some ways

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Speaker 2: for our side that there's a vote under a ballot

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Speaker 2: initiative underway in California this fall to repeal the ballot initiative,

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Speaker 2: or really the Just Crime Overhaul, effectively legalizing a lot

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Speaker 2: of crime that Kamala Harris was a huge advocate for

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Speaker 2: when she was state attorney general. And you know, these

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Speaker 2: are things that these are things that reasonable intelligent people

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Speaker 2: making decisions based upon past record and likely future performance

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Speaker 2: of a leader, a person given power to execute certain

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Speaker 2: functions in a role. They can see that and say,

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris makes horrible decisions.

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Speaker 1: This is what I've said before.

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Speaker 2: She's a Democrat who lacks wisdom, knowledge, insight, track record

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Speaker 2: you know, of success, So she has a track record

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Speaker 2: is not a good one. She is effectively a vessel

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Speaker 2: now for the Democrat machine to create a narrative of

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Speaker 2: a person who does not really exist. And I understand

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Speaker 2: they may be able to do that successfully. I have

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Speaker 2: no I have no illu usions that this isn't a

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Speaker 2: possibility for them. I just think that the more that

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Speaker 2: can be exposed, the better Trump and also the down

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Speaker 2: ballot chances are. But I mean, if they can elect

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Speaker 2: It's like I said about Fetterman. If they can Electkama

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Speaker 2: they can get anybody elected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what scared me. That's what I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about last night as I was getting ready for bed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we made fun of what how is Rachel

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Speaker 1: Maddow going to react if Trump wins. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: if Kamala wins. We have to come in a couple

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Speaker 1: of days after the election and be like, let's get

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Speaker 1: ready for Kamala Harris until twenty twenty nine. That's what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I can't. I can't even psychologically go there.

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Speaker 2: We stay focused on guest is in sight, all right,

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Speaker 2: Trump voters, victory is in sight if we stay focused

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton show, let me give a shout out.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Mark Schlareth, who is a NFL analyst friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: just said they're up in Alaska. He's with his dad,

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Speaker 1: they are doing work in the backyard. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening to us. I hope that we are keeping

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Speaker 1: you entertained. And certainly I can't wait to make that

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Speaker 1: up to Alaska at some point. We talked about that

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Speaker 1: cool of the trip that would be. You have been.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to make that trip at some time. I've

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Speaker 1: got to add it the odds. This is a big story, Buck.

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Speaker 1: The odds are continuing to swing on who Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: is going to pick. With reports that she is down

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Speaker 1: to Shapiro and Waltz. It's now about a sixty five

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Speaker 1: percent chance she goes Shapiro, about a third of a

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Speaker 1: chance that she goes with Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: And I still think it's going to be Shapiro because

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Speaker 1: partly they accidentally released this video on was it Friday

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Speaker 1: or Saturday? The Mayor of Philadelphia accidentally posted this video

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Speaker 1: about Josh Shapiro being the VP. Listen to this. Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris is on.

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Speaker 2: The roads of victory in the roads coast Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: where united behind her the woman's and can lead.

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Speaker 1: Are we ready to fight for it? She is the

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Speaker 1: right person at the right time for this job.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna do right by labor, it's gonna do right

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Speaker 2: by working people.

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Speaker 1: And I can't think of a.

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Speaker 2: Better partner than Governor Jo Shapiro.

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Speaker 1: His policies are not only supported to working class, but

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Speaker 1: it's set standards for progressive leadership that benefits Paul citizens.

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Speaker 1: We're getting behind Kamala Harris, CaMLA.

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Speaker 4: Herk Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris for president and Josh Shapiro,

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Speaker 4: Jos Shapiro, Josh Shapiro for Vice president.

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Speaker 1: Now we need you, Okay, intentional leak, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: and if you watch hero is gonna be the vice president,

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Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like. Or they not watch the video.

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Speaker 1: I guess they could argue they made multiple versions and

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Speaker 1: change the vice president's name in the ad if I

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Speaker 1: were trying it sounds like the decision has been made

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Speaker 1: and that video just got posted too soon. Do you

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Speaker 1: think it's accidental? Like what is? It fails to me

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Speaker 1: like at Shapiro and they've already done the videos. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed because I said, I had a

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Speaker 2: feeling that might just go with Rocketman out of even

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Speaker 2: though they know they can't win Arizona, just because it

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Speaker 2: adds a little less communist manifesto to the Democrat ticket.

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Speaker 2: But you know, this time around, Shapiro has has some

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Speaker 2: of the same some of the same effect, I think,

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Speaker 2: But they just think that they that's the state that

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Speaker 2: they have to win, and that's what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: I can't see it going another way. I mean, Waltz

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Speaker 2: of Minnesota. If they do that, the story will be

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Speaker 2: as we've been discussing, that they're afraid of antagonizing the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party, afraid of antagonizing their anti Semite base.

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Speaker 1: That's really what it would be.

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Speaker 2: Right, There's no other way to see it, because Shapiro

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Speaker 2: is just an electoral perspective, a.

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Speaker 1: Smarter choice, I think it actually is. But it's that

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Speaker 1: I think it also buck reinforce horses the failures of

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis when it came to BLM, because my first reaction

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Speaker 1: is if Kamala Harris picks the mayor, sorry, the governor

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Speaker 1: of Minnesota, it just brings back up the fact that

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Speaker 1: she raised all that money for BLM protesters that were

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Speaker 1: burning down Minneapolis. So I can't imagine that she's gonna

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Speaker 1: pick anybody other than Shapiro. The announcement's supposed to come tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I would think the announcement will leak in advance in

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Speaker 1: some way, so we will let you know. And I

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Speaker 1: would love it if she picked somebody other than Shapiro,

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Speaker 1: but I would frankly be stunned if it's anybody other

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Speaker 1: than Shapiro. And don't worry, it's all gonna work out, everyone.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're here to tell you.

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Speaker 2: We're here to keep your focused, to make the arguments,

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Speaker 2: to equip you with the information you need, to get

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Speaker 2: your annoying socialist neighbor to see reality, and Clay, we're

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Speaker 2: still happy warriors.

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna work out. I'm nervous bucker