WEBVTT - The Toxic Avenger

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler Dared Haven and

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<v Speaker 1>I heard radio podcast What is up? Everyone? Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>an all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a very very special episode for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only do we have the lovely Courtney Robertson calling

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<v Speaker 1>into coast with us today, but we also have one

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<v Speaker 1>of Jared's buddies from Bachelor in Paradise, Australian joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Another strip on the boy Dean, shall we that was terrible?

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<v Speaker 1>Before you embarrass yourself anymore? Um, I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>if if Courtney is here. I think she's here. Courtney

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<v Speaker 1>are either can you hear me? We can hear you,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can't see you. Hang on start video. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fantastic, just another day. How the hell are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Courtney, It's good to see you again. I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to say for the listeners out there, funny, weird,

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<v Speaker 1>a little coincidence. Back in October two nineteen, my best

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<v Speaker 1>friend's sister was getting married and so in Hawaii, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Caitlin and I went to Hawaii and while we

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<v Speaker 1>were there, Courtney and her now husband were also vacationing

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<v Speaker 1>there in the same hotel, the same hotel. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild. I think it was like right after your season, right, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right after Paradise. My now husband. We were walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the beach and hughes he saw you guys. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Baby's like, no way. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually a little star struck. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of heresy. I was like, were a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>That's late. We got a picture at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. But it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>because Kitlin I think recognized you as well, and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's Courtney. Uh. And I never really watched

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<v Speaker 1>the show, so I was like, oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And then eventually we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce ourselves. But they sat. It was funny, the Lokal incident,

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<v Speaker 1>so relaxed and just happy and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>great the same for you guys. So that was October nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But in December nineteen, you guys got so so just

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<v Speaker 1>for the listeners out there, breaking up down on this timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>So you got engaged in December and then got married

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<v Speaker 1>or was that you're married your wedding in Actually we

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged in December and then we got married this

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<v Speaker 1>past October. But when we were in Hawaii is actually

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<v Speaker 1>right around the time I conceived with our son, So

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<v Speaker 1>a little a little tidbit there, we kin. We kind

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<v Speaker 1>of was like we had talked about. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>a total surprise or anything for us at our age,

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<v Speaker 1>where like it doesn't need to go, it didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to go on a certain order. Did you guys talk

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<v Speaker 1>about kids before getting married. Yeah, so you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>both on board of that. Huh yeah, it just happened

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit sooner than expected. Well that's so that's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny that that was the trip that we potentially

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<v Speaker 1>Joaquin was conceived. Yeah, yeah, that's the that's the date

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<v Speaker 1>that it end up. And it was so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so nice for us dating. Um, you know, I've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to your podcast, but like now you can't go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, that was one of our last big trips.

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<v Speaker 1>He's here, Sorry, it might be up hearing him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>changing him and take him for a walk. That's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That is podcasting right there. Nice zooms. My dogs, as

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<v Speaker 1>deancon a test bark probably every three minutes, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>do right about now. Um, so corney. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on getting married. So you got married in COVID

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<v Speaker 1>COVID times back in October. We saw the pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>People magazine. They look beautiful. What was it like? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of my friends got married during COVID and

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<v Speaker 1>it was so crazy and stressful. What was it like

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys to know that you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>plan a wedding and get married during times where people

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<v Speaker 1>were quarantining. Yeah, you know, so we had started planning

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding before COVID hit and so to posts were paid,

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<v Speaker 1>everything was paid, and I was like, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should just go down to the courthouse, like let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>not and say we did. And everything was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>nonrefundable and it's like I'm not only the money on

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<v Speaker 1>the table, and so what we ended up doing we

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<v Speaker 1>had eight five people on a guest list. We just

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<v Speaker 1>had our immediate family. We had a small celebration. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so it was kind of nice. I had, like I

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<v Speaker 1>got the experience of planning a big wedding, which I

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<v Speaker 1>found out like not for me. It was like so stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the day it worked out perfectly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still was stressful. I mean, the caterers were

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<v Speaker 1>masks and um, Sedona was So have you been to Sedona?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have, Yeah, so I saw that you

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<v Speaker 1>got married there. I love Sedona, especially in October. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the perfect time to be there, exactly. But so

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was there because I think people are traveling and

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<v Speaker 1>you can drive there, so it was our venue was

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<v Speaker 1>so packed, so that was a little bit tricky to navigate,

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<v Speaker 1>like we did our first looks just because of timing,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like people gathering around. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't my dressed to get soiled or anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>but it turned out to be nice. So glad it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Let honest, I gotta say, I gotta say, your husband

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<v Speaker 1>looks great in his tuxedo. But I think the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that really stole the show was Joaquin. Thank you, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you. Thank you. The little baby tuxedo that

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<v Speaker 1>thing kill I saw the picture of that and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is I mean totally he really did.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a perfect gentleman and it was so nice

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<v Speaker 1>to have him there and our whole family have a

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<v Speaker 1>good walk. I'll text you what I'm done. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so Courney, we usually like to start, you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>guests off with some Q and a's kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>to know you a little bit. Obviously we know you

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<v Speaker 1>from the Bachelor franchise Ben Flannic season. Um, were you

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<v Speaker 1>on any other Were you on Bachelor Pad at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it just Bachelor you know, Bachelor Paradise. They

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<v Speaker 1>had contacted me for that and I was actually dating

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that they liked at the time in Venice, so

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't go over very well. Um, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to do it, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>But Bachelor Pad was after my season. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>last one they did. I think that was when Rachel Trueheart.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch that the one? Yeah, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time I met Nick and he

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<v Speaker 1>told me that story and I went back in YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is insane but also fantastic. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were girls from my season on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I think the last Bachelor Pad they did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was as well. So Dean, just to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know this guy, Nick Peterson, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>my season, my first season of Bachelor in Paradise. He

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<v Speaker 1>so Bachelor Pad was like more of a competitive show

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<v Speaker 1>before paradise came around where you could actually win money.

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<v Speaker 1>So long story short, at the end, like the couple,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick and somebody else had to choose to either share

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<v Speaker 1>the money or keep the money. And if somebody chose

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the money that then they kept it all

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves and Nick chose to keep it and not

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<v Speaker 1>share it. And it was like this huge controversy. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like its like on live TV. And Rachel was

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<v Speaker 1>on My season four Things. I just like you saw

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<v Speaker 1>her heart like instantly break was it was thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>was a I think it was two fifty. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a hundred twenty five each. I think, so

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<v Speaker 1>he got to keep all of the two, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? I think I remember seeing something. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>if you if one person wants to keep it and

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<v Speaker 1>in person says to share it, the person that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps it. But if they both wanted eep it,

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<v Speaker 1>then no one gets the money exactly. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>scary if you keep it, because the better play would be,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, to share it. If you both share it,

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<v Speaker 1>you split it. But if you both keep it, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're broth screwed. Did did they end up dating after

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<v Speaker 1>the show or no. I don't even know if they

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<v Speaker 1>were dating during the show. It was like they went

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<v Speaker 1>on It was kind of weird. I remember, like the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were like quote unquote dating. They

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<v Speaker 1>went on dates. And it was also very strategic, so

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just about romance, like you had to strategize

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<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, I'm gonna pair up with you and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to try to work towards this. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a combo of Bachelorette and Survivor. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching a lot of Survival lately. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on Survivor. I think that'd be fun. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's for another conversation. Definitely did a show like

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<v Speaker 1>that back in the day. I did one in New

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<v Speaker 1>Zeeland and I thought it was called what was the

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<v Speaker 1>treasurer Island and you could win a million dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>then you'd have to decide if you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it to charity or keep the money, which obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people kept it. But we lived

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<v Speaker 1>on an island on Fiji. On Fiji, I was the

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<v Speaker 1>first one to go home. It was it was really

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. It's really hard to live off the land,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like a competition style show. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a couple's competition style show. I actually did

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<v Speaker 1>it with the Fear Factor Grand Champion. He was my

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<v Speaker 1>friend in New Zealand. But how are you do you

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<v Speaker 1>get angry? I mean, like you really like like day

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<v Speaker 1>one of like not getting enough food, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing my mind. I think I would be okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But with all that stuff, you should do it. You

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<v Speaker 1>are made for that show. There's so the couple of

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<v Speaker 1>seasons that I saw, there's a lot of like planning

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<v Speaker 1>and manipulation and like strategy that go involved into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think I would be so good at

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<v Speaker 1>that part. I think I would go like I'd probably

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<v Speaker 1>like the middle of the pack. I think at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day. Yeah, I think the issue, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you wouldn't be too much into the competitiveness

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<v Speaker 1>of winning. You would just rather want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the wilderness and enjoy yourself, like I think. When I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes down to it, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're on those shows, you need to of course be

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<v Speaker 1>able to live, uh, you know, without a roof over

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<v Speaker 1>your head, but you also need to have some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of competitive vantage where you are going to do certain

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<v Speaker 1>things in order to win, and I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>have the personality for that, which is a positive. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out for blood. But I don't know that's another

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<v Speaker 1>here nor there. We'll save that for another time. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if there's like a survivor casting producer listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>get me on a show, let's see it firsthand. But Courtney,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jared was gonna say, I don't think we ever

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<v Speaker 1>got We've got a couple of questions that we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, just actually, but just as a

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<v Speaker 1>group kind of like answer your questions. Yeah, what's on

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<v Speaker 1>the docket. One of these conversations starting questions is what

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<v Speaker 1>famous couple would you want to double date with? M

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<v Speaker 1>game this couple that I would want to double date with?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, she's stumped me. Do people fire this

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<v Speaker 1>off really quickly? I think I would definitely like to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with Oprah, but obviously like somebody like really

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<v Speaker 1>funny would be good, like a comedian. What about you, guys?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a question I would have never anticipated. Know Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's dating someone, but if Armie

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<v Speaker 1>Hammer is with someone, that would be an interesting double

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<v Speaker 1>date right now to have that conversation. Uh oh, to

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<v Speaker 1>see if he would maybe want to filet your skin

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<v Speaker 1>off and cook it in a frying pan. I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see what he ordered. Well, I'm not gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>poor guy, obviously, I think he denied it. Though I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's already like denied it. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like cannibalism. I wonder if you'd order like a filet rare,

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<v Speaker 1>don't cook it at all. Um, let's see, Like obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the first one comes to mind is someone like Ashon

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<v Speaker 1>and Mila there. They seem super fun obviously out for

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<v Speaker 1>me personally, of course, Tom and Giselle tom Brady and

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<v Speaker 1>she's a bunch of I mean, that's just yeah, I'm surprised,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you so long to say that. I figured

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been the first one that you're out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a part of me though, that maybe wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on a double date with them, because I

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<v Speaker 1>hold Tom Brady in such high esteem. I almost don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to meet him because I just want to have

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<v Speaker 1>this image of who Tom Brady is. I've gone back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth in this even though I've never had the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to meet him. In my head, I always prepare

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<v Speaker 1>myself if that opportunity ever arises. So I go back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth whether it would be Tom and Giesel. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what's what's funny about that? A little

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<v Speaker 1>side no here is that kind of happened to me once.

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<v Speaker 1>My Like my favorite musician growing up my entire life

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<v Speaker 1>was this guy, Like I know every single one of

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<v Speaker 1>his like three hard songs, every word of every song,

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<v Speaker 1>um My my rob Tom. I thought, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. I met him in person a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, we we exchanged ems every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while. And he's not like a dick or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's like not the interactions ever go as I've

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of expected them to go, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, And so it kind of like humanizes him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and it knocks him down a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of notches on the pedestal. But I don't know, Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that happened with you and Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Tom Brady and just I'll eat what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing because whatever they're doing is working. It's definitely he

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<v Speaker 1>would order like spinache dry, not cooked at all with

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<v Speaker 1>like a piece of chicken that has zero salt or

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<v Speaker 1>pepper on it and it's just grilled to the like

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty degrees for eighteen and a half minutes because

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be cooked. Just thought Tom Brady had

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<v Speaker 1>like a super weird diet, like he ate like a

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<v Speaker 1>pine of ice cream, you know, the clickbait. I always

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<v Speaker 1>getting sucker for that. And it was like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing Tom Brady won't eat? And It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a tomato. It doesn't eat tomatoes. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just about to say that. I was like, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't eat you know it was a tomato. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I did know his DEBATOI also you have to realize,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Boston's I listened to Boston Sports Radio every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and like for the past twenty years, our lives have

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<v Speaker 1>revolved around Tom Brady and so whether it be the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship status on and off the football field, his diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know a lot about Tom Brady's diet, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not proud to say, but oh well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>had somebody oh not to bring politics into it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying one side or the other, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would say I would love to double date with Barack

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<v Speaker 1>and Michelle, Like that would be what I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I'm currently reading his memoir. I swear I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, Barack and Michelle, Jared, you stole mine,

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<v Speaker 1>you cheat? Or how did you know? I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that? I just read your mind. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that's when when we when you call us the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with someone for so long, like I can get I

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<v Speaker 1>can see your reaction, and I look at your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you about say the Obama's and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to jump in before he does so I can

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<v Speaker 1>steal his good idea. All right, well before we just

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<v Speaker 1>before I get too angry and just dwell on this

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<v Speaker 1>any longer. Next question, what is the nicest thing that

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<v Speaker 1>your significant other has done for you lately? So Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin embartto done for us lately? What is like We'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with Courtney, Like, what was like the last I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he does nice things for you all the time, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, what's like the one thing that stands out

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<v Speaker 1>to you that happened most recently? You think, well, today

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<v Speaker 1>we actually have a little date today. Um, they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing some work in the house. I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>a house for your details. But he planned a trip

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<v Speaker 1>for us for our Valentine's Day. Yeah, he got somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the baby. He's got it all lined up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like pleasantly surprised. It was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to travel right now, but just a quick

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<v Speaker 1>twenty for our trips. So he does a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>awful things like that. I mean, like on the daily level,

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<v Speaker 1>he lets me sleep in and he does the morning

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<v Speaker 1>shift with the baby, and like, I'm a person who

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<v Speaker 1>needs an extra hour of sleep, and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like he'll say, like, oh, take your time in the

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<v Speaker 1>shower once. You'll see once you have kids, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>your showers are quick. So those little things like me

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<v Speaker 1>in the world to me, how much sleep did you

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<v Speaker 1>get the first month of having a child? What should

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<v Speaker 1>I prepare myself for? Not sued. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you go with interrupted sleep, but we actually did baby wise,

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<v Speaker 1>like a sleep um schedule, like you wake him up

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<v Speaker 1>every three hours and you feed him, and the goals

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<v Speaker 1>to get him to sleep for twelve hours a night,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is so he sleeps for twelve hours, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wake up every three hours. You said an

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<v Speaker 1>alarm and it's like he's still sleeping. You gotta wake

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<v Speaker 1>the baby up to feed him. So but it works.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you the type person that can wake up

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<v Speaker 1>and immediately go back to sleep. No, my wheels are up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my gosh, I gotta oh laundry, gotta

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<v Speaker 1>did this, or like exactly you know, sometimes there's anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I have some calming techniques, but like if

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<v Speaker 1>I have to get up to p and the mill

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<v Speaker 1>and night, it's like usually like two hours I'm up

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband snoring, the baby sleeping. I'm like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with this picture. I'm also the type of person

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<v Speaker 1>where if I know I have to wake up like

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<v Speaker 1>super early the next day, you know, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>catch a flight or whatever. Even if I had to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up a four thirty, like, I can't sleep because

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<v Speaker 1>all I could think about is not oversleeping. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>have nightmares about missing flights on a nightly. But I

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<v Speaker 1>won't hear what you guys? What your significant sweeties? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you got? Why don't you go first? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna say, Cailin made me dinner last night.

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<v Speaker 1>That was very kind of her. She made me just

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<v Speaker 1>a nice plate of roasted vegetables. Yeah, it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It was healthy, nutritious meal. Also, also, this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like a nice thing that she did

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<v Speaker 1>for me in like a weird way. I told her

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<v Speaker 1>that I was going to play golf this morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>told her this last night, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>really nice of her not to be like, not to

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<v Speaker 1>like press me on it. You know, She's like, Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>go have fun. So I thought that was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the nicest thing, Ashley? I mean, ash does nice

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<v Speaker 1>things for me every day. She does nice things for me.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in the other room and want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>she heard that. Let's see, Oh, she maybe did the

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<v Speaker 1>last night too. She may be, uh, she may be

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<v Speaker 1>a nice garden salad a mix of kale and spinach.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady special with dude, stop stop Jared, you stop

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<v Speaker 1>stealing my answers. Man, you gotta start having your own answers.

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<v Speaker 1>First it was Brock and Michelle. Now you're stealing the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner thing, all right. She also made me a hot

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney and I are sick of this. She made me

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<v Speaker 1>a hot chocolate. It was very special. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really thick batch of milk, chocolate, hot chocolate, and

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<v Speaker 1>she put some whipped cream and marshmallows and then drizzled

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<v Speaker 1>it with some caramel syrup and just made it with

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<v Speaker 1>some love, you know. And then she let me watch

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she lets me watch Wheel, Fortune and Jeopardy

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<v Speaker 1>every night. That's very nice because I really get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I know, you know, it's the small things, really,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're married as Courtney. And one last question

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<v Speaker 1>before we wrap this up and get into it with

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<v Speaker 1>Jared's buddy Jake Ellis, And it's kind of in tune

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<v Speaker 1>with the first question here, but these are Jared's questions.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, he wrote these before the show started.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, if you were stranded on a desert island

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<v Speaker 1>with another couple friend, who would be best and why?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't really understand what they mean by another

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<v Speaker 1>couple friend, but I'm assuming it's like a double date

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<v Speaker 1>on a desert island to survive. Who would it be

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<v Speaker 1>for me that I would take my best friend and

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, Amy Dean. She was a producer on The

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor and about it. You guys might have met her

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, but she's super savvy. I'd take her.

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<v Speaker 1>She would help you. She would help you, guys, survives

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, Oh yeah, totally. She's super savvy and

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<v Speaker 1>she's not a complainer, Like I don't do well with complainers,

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<v Speaker 1>so right, she'd just be funan, I gotta be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Calin are one of the first to come

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<v Speaker 1>to mind because you're so earthy, like you're one with nature.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if I was stuck in a desert island,

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<v Speaker 1>I would need somebody who who could show me which

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<v Speaker 1>plants to eat, how to cook my own meals, how

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<v Speaker 1>to catch build a shell up there, build start a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you're very sweet and so like, if God

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<v Speaker 1>forbid we did need to go to the cannibal route

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<v Speaker 1>and eat someone, I feel like you would say, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I would offer myself up. And you're pretty you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're six what a six four? You know, so like

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<v Speaker 1>you know you could last a couple of weeks. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a good hopefully, hopefully it will

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with like starting with like a leggerant arm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like maybe I don't have to kill myself first,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would just like be uh amputee at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the very like least, no, you just want to die,

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't want to pain. Um. I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>bring Let me think who I would bring here. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like Ben and Jess. I feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a good couple to be on a

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<v Speaker 1>desert island with for the same reasons Jared would want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on an island with me, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and taste really good honestly, so I think at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, that would probably be the

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<v Speaker 1>best choice. All right, well, courney, uh, we're gonna move

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<v Speaker 1>on with Jake, so stick Obviously you're sticking around. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be here for the whole episode of us UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not done answering some stupid questions because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have plenty of stupid questions for you. So well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to sit tight, but I want our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to sit tight as well, because we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>one quick break and then we're gonna jump into um

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<v Speaker 1>having Jake on here, So stay tuned. Will be back,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, welcome back to help I suck at dating

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<v Speaker 1>Jared here Dean of course, and we have Courtney Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>as well. She's gonna be here the entire podcast. We

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<v Speaker 1>also have a very special guest joining us from all

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<v Speaker 1>the way from Down. I'm not. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I say it like that. Buddy of mine. We were

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<v Speaker 1>on Bachelor and in Prioritise Australia together, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>he was also on the Bachelorette Season two of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>My buddy, Jake Ellis, Jake, how the hell are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm good. Thanks for having me a long

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<v Speaker 1>time coming. I know. I said you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast for a while and finally we got

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<v Speaker 1>you here. Now we just gotta get you on the

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<v Speaker 1>American version of Paradise. That would be uh, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be an experience. I think I've walked on two seasons

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<v Speaker 1>now in Australia, so I think I'm I think I'm prepped.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go. Yeah, you're ready to go. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>of course everybody knows you from Down, Bachelor in Paradis Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor Rette. Um oh, Dean, where you guys? Says them?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm so sorry. I was just looking up

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<v Speaker 1>the fellow cast members from his Bachelorette season and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Courtney Dolber. Yeah, yeah, very well, very well,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys been friends since he moved over there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Delver, he's the man. Yeah yeah, yeah. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't said I think he was stuck in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>for the Wall, wasn't he. Yeah, he's like working doing

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<v Speaker 1>some TV thing. But he's back up in California now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's officially homeless living in his van. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but he loves that stuff exactly, him and Sam. Him

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<v Speaker 1>and Sam are doing it together, so I think they're

0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>happy doing that. But it's it's it's pretty crazy, like

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it's such a obviously, such a small world. The whole

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>um it's a Bachelor Nation. I think that's a much

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>bigger Yeah, it's um, yeah, it's crazy. It's fun though.

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, man, I remember the first time, so when

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.479
<v Speaker 1>I went down to Paradise, you and I became really close,

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh, dude, the first thing that like struck me

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 1>from Bachelor in Paradise. Every guy there, I'm not joking.

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be like six three six four at

0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the shortest. I looked like I was five four on

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that show. When watching it back, I'm like, you know,

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm six ft. I'm not a short dude by any stretch.

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But I realized when I get what the hell is

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that supposed to mean? Six ft? Otherways? Don't remember being sixtight?

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>How told do you think I was? I thought you

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 1>were like five eleven. Shut the hell out. He's in

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 1>my two inch box to be specific, that's true. No,

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.639
<v Speaker 1>well I guess you just you know you're in a

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>group full of tool guys. Well I'm six four. Everyone

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.959
<v Speaker 1>else in our season was yeah, I think they went

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way out just like six seeks. Oh dude,

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I realized quickly. I was like, none of these girls

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.159
<v Speaker 1>want to be like, none of them are gonna want

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:21.679
<v Speaker 1>to go on dates with me. Here comes like some

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>American shrimp. As they're just walking around, like I realized,

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>like Australian girls down there they want like big beefy dudes.

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>And here comes like a guy who tries to look

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>like a backstreet boy, like, hey, you guys want you

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>guys want to go on a date with me? Who

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.399
<v Speaker 1>is like who wants to have some fun? Huh? Did

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you walk in singing Backstreet boys to me? Remember? I mean,

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>if I was, that was definitely unintentional, and I was

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>singing it to myself yeah, his comfort song. Jake, I've

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>got some questions for you. So I didn't get a

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>chance to watch Bachelor in Paradise Australia with with Jared

0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and you on there, but the rundown I have here

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that you were painted as the bad boy contestant. So

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.399
<v Speaker 1>tell me, I want to know why. What was the

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 1>bad boy persona? Well? Look, yes, well season one of Paradise,

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>so when I obviously was straight after my season of

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bacherette where I look, I finished third in that

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was sort of painted as the family you know,

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the nice guy, which which I am very much so

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>as this don't jump into yet. But then yes, on Paradise,

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I had the first date and I took

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 1>someone on a date and got quite romantic and looked

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>at that girl gave me her rose. And then in

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.679
<v Speaker 1>TV Land it was obviously what you guys know as

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 1>well that it seemed like it was the very next day,

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>um and another girl walked in who ended up being

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>my my ex girlfriend, my girlfriend, and it was obviously

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>my turn to give the rose. So I sort of

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>just kick the other girl off off Paradise and give

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it to me it but the country hated that I

0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>was Jake the Snake, that was my nickname. So what

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>did it feel like to be like start off like

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody loves you and then getting heat and then you

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>ultimately rebounded because then everybody fell in love with you

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>again once you and Megan had your romance. But what

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>was that like? Because Courtney, who's on here? Courtney was

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>on I forget what season was, but she ended up

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>winning The Bachelor, but Corney got villainized, and then Corney

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.479
<v Speaker 1>went on to write a book called I Didn't come

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.159
<v Speaker 1>here to Make Friends. Confessions of a Reality Show Villain.

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 1>So what was it like for you guys to be

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of villainized for a little while? Um, Like, it

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely took a bit to get used to. I think,

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously our demographic and have big bachelory here

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>is in Australia, is nowhere near one of these over

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>there in the States. Like obviously you know Courtney must

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>you must have dealt with it so much more. It

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was like us Weekly. I was on the cover. It

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.679
<v Speaker 1>was like me and Eater, and uh, it does just

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>go away, you know, like time really does kind of

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>same now I don't really, I'm sure you guys gets

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>for pictures and stuff all the time. It's very few

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and far between, but I mean it didn't feel good.

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know. I felt like I was

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like in a microscope and everyone was judging me, and

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just this a weird thing to go through. Yeah, definitely,

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>people say like awkward things to you, Like they are like,

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>come up now, like you don't seem that bad, And

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, like, you know that I think was tricky

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to navigate. I don't know if you guys deal with

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that ever, Like people are awkward when they want to

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>meet you and they come up and like, I get

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 1>it a lot. Once Ashley and I started dating, I

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>got a ton which I knew I was going to

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 1>get flak for it because you know, for years it

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>made it seem that like, and to a certain extent

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it was true that I was the one refusing to

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship with ash and she was just

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like completely ready seven. So when we got into a relationship,

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew like people were going to think that I

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>was like only doing it because I was jealous or

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>had alternative motives. But um, I remember people coming up

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to me and they'd be like Ashley, I love you

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>so much, Jared. I hated you for so long, but

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>now you guys are together, so I like you and

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you can go yourself, and it's very nice

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>meeting you as well. It's so awkward, right then, what

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>do you You're like, this is a compliment, like, oh man,

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>but that just kind of fades away. And Jake the snake,

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was like they called me, like the

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>girls that were calling me like a black widow and

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of yeah, I know, and now I can

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>laugh at it, but at the time I was with

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the guy too, and I think for me it was

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>more just like embarrassing, Like I don't know about you guys,

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm very easily embarrassed, and there was a lot

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of embarrassment that came with it, like with being the villain.

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And now I can own up to it, but especially

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>with the guy that I was with, Like I was

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, this is embarrassing. You know well, and

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Court you were you were saying that that might have

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>been like a kind of a thorn in your guy's

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>relationship too. You think, like the fact that they did

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of like villainize you on the show at least

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>when they were airing the show. I think we would

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>have had a much better shot if we had like

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>a story book. I think that would have It was

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>really hard for him, um And I think he kind

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of started to he was getting it in the media

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and people were like, why did you pick her? She

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>seems awful, and so that was like an insecurity of mine. Um.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think we probably could have made it

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>work if that if we had a different I think

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>they could go back and redo our season and make

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>it look like how they deal with some people. Um,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>and people would be shocked because they had I know

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>they had the like heartfelt interviews from me, they just

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>really didn't show any of them. So they decided to

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>pick you as like the villain, and they're like, all right,

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>we're sticking to our guns and we're just gonna make

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it like paint her as bad as we want to

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>do it. We just kind of it's kind of mess

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>up that they have that ability and like that power

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to do that sort of thing to help you interpret, uh,

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>like things negatively, Like with Jake, dude, you literally did

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong. And Corney same thing with you pretty much,

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 1>and Dean you made your mistakes, but like it was

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>all just from you, like acting from you, like making

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>decissions with your heart. It wasn't like you were intentionally

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>being malicious. But like Jake, I remember you in Paradise.

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You literally just liked a girl more and gave her

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>your rose instead of this other girl. And people are like,

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Jake the snake, Are you still with the girls? She

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>still with the girls? No? We m we split up

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>probably a couple of months ago. Said together for three years,

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>but we still split up probably four or five months ago, um,

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>which is like a whole other story. But oh my gosh,

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>how's that going. Yeah, it's been it's been difficult. Um.

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously, as I said, you know, you guys deal

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>with it a lot more and technically than than what

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>we do over here. But you know, like reality to that,

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>he's really taken such a big lape in the last

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>few years, and you know it was a lot of

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>pressure even on us to stick together. Like we went

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>through some tough times. You know, obviously lived my life

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the last four years in front of the Bachelor World

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>and I lost with my parents the last three years. Um,

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, just been through a lot of heartache and

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of lord of paying a lot of difficult

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>situations and that just added so much stress to our relationship. Yeah,

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and then add on top of the media and everyone

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.479
<v Speaker 1>knowing your business or wanting to know your business, and

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it just unfortunately just didn't didn't work out for now.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not the right time. But look, I know I

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>love her, um, if I'm being honest, and that's that's

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>something that's still real, but it's just not We're just

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>not right for each other unfortunately. Yeah. Well, and you guys,

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys called it quit kind of in the middle

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>of this whole quarantine or a pandemic. It seems like great. Yeah,

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>so you know, we've been pretty lucky over here. As

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I was telling you guys before, it hasn't been as

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>intense and you know, in lockdowns and sort of separation

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, it's definitely

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>out of stress. Um. But look, you know, I wish

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that nothing but the best, and I hope she'd finds happiness.

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I think, you know, obviously that's what everyone

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>wants and that's what I want as well. Listen to me, almost,

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm grown up, You're so mature. I'm shore, I'm blown

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>away by the maturity here. It's just a long way

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.959
<v Speaker 1>from Jake the snake apparently. But I well, let's let's um,

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>let's let's expand on that a little bit. Let's talk.

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about like our own toxic traits that we

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>might have, like Jake, uh, Courtney, Jared and myself, Like,

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what kind of things do you think we do that

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>could be labeled as toxic, like if you're looking at

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it from the outside, like like if we had Megan

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>on here, or if we had Courtney, you're you got

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>engaged to it was Ben, right, Yeah, So let's say

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>we had let's say we had our exes on here, right,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, all right, what toxic traits do

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>we have? What do you think they would be? Well?

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think with Bachelor, like, we're all pretty

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>lucky that we got to go through this experience because

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it really for me personally, Uh, it started making me

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>more self aware of certain flaws I had because you

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>start talking a lot through a lot, more through things,

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>where before I would just procrastinate or push things off

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>for never really just opened myself up. So I think,

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like looking, you know, within my own relationship now and

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>then looking at XS, I guess like a toxic thing

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I have is that I always, I definitely, unintentionally maybe

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>a little bit lead people on. Note not in a

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>malicious way, but like I for in a great example

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>is one time, uh, and this happened a couple of

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.719
<v Speaker 1>times where I would go on dates with girls and

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like one of my strengths is I feel that I

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>make a decent first impression because I really like to,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, ask people questions and and get to know

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>them more. And so I would always I feel like

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>on first dates, dates would always go well. But I'm

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>such the person where I'm like, you know, if if

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not into it, then like it's over. And I

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>never really go on a second day. And I would

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>always keep people out of arms distance. And I feel

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like that's a toxic characteristic to have because then it

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>would like kind of lead people on a little bit

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>without letting them know what went wrong or give them

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>any closure. And like one time a girl texted to

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>me and this is she like reamed me out about

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>how I never gave her a chance and I'm going

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to die alone because I refused to commit to anybody.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know, she's not wrong. But

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>now I'm married, so it all worked out. It all

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>worked out at the end of the day. What about you, guys,

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>fest Okay, Well, I mean things, I've totally what you said, Jared,

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like since the show. I mean, I've really done a

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of work on myself. I got a life coach

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and um, not that I won't go down that that conversation,

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I think I've worked on really being

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>less reactive. Um, that's something that you know, I think

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that got me in trouble a lot on the show,

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>whereas like what is the famous three words Wait a minute,

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, So I've really worked on like okay, just

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>pump the brakes, um, don't overreact or anything like that.

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So um, but I think communication in the relationship. That's

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>something that I like, if something's bothering me, like I

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily bring it up right away and then I'll

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>boil over. So those are things that I've really worked on.

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But so you're not no toxic traits anymore. Those are

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>all in the past. No, I definitely do. I definitely

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>get a little evy um, but yeah, toxic traits, I mean, well, no,

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm married too, so coming in. Actually he's coming with

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the baby. He's probably sleeping in. I like, I like

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>my sleep. That's a boring one. I don't think. I

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think. I don't think those are so bad. That's

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>not too toxic. If those if those are the worst

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>things about you, I think that you're doing pretty well

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>for yourself. I'm trying. I'm trying to work on being

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>more president right now. You know, with social media and distractions,

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, sure for me, just like an unattractive equality,

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm like totally guilty of it. Were you ever

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the type person that would check your boyfriend's Instagram like

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>or ever like look into their phone? Oh my god.

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>One night I was a little sassy and I was like,

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>who are all these girls are? Probably you know, like

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's like the people that I know because when

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>we together we were like on any accidents, it was

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like you're coming with me and kind of

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>put you know, kai bash on like friendships and stuff

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like that. Oh yeah, I had one my close friends,

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>her her boyfriend, her ex boyfriend now used to follow

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like all these random like Instagram models that would just

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 1>post pictures of their butts and like he'd always liked them,

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and always it was always like you're not doing anything. Yeah,

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't you shouldn't be doing that, Like, don't

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>do that. You know my friends married. She's like I

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>was looking at I were talking about that social media

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff, and she saw a picture of

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Kata Upton and her husband had liked it. I was like,

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>heard of bikini and just like what that's pretty funny, Jake,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>what about you? What do you think here's some toxic

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>qualities about you? I mean not that you have any,

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but just try to find one. Yeah, thank yeah, thanks,

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a good try. I love a good it's always good. Um,

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>toxic trites, I think, Yeah, obviously I've done I've done

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>three shows now. I think I've gone from being a

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit immature in relationships when I sort of first

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>started UM and then definitely learned it the hard way,

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Like going through the show. Obviously everything is so magnified

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and you really you have to really take a look

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>at yourself and what your shortcomings are. I guess like

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a pretty passionate person in a relationship and I

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>always have been. Um, I think toxic traits. I don't

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>listen probably you know in the heat of the moment

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>or if if it's a serious conversation or it's a

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>bit of conflict. Like you know, I feel like I

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>just go one way you're going out. That's a good quality, yeah,

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>like not and it's not intentional. But I think that

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I just I blindly lead with emotion at times and

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>not rationality. Um, you know, it could be such a

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>small issue and just blows into this big thing and

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean it too and then you know, after

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>the fact, I sort of rethink about it and I'm like, oh, yeah,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>well I sort of overreacted there and handled that differently

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But is that a toxic trait?

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's toxic. Well, not listening isn't

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>probably the best not not listening, Like, of course I listened,

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>but I think maybe I just have selective hearing in

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>those sort of moments. Um, and I always have to

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>win the argument, Like I just I feel like I'm

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>very competitive. That's sort of in a nutshell, But look,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>that's I feel like I've grown a lot and I've

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of learned my lesson And you know, look when

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with Megan, when we got together,

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>that was probably the first time I've actually been in love,

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>so it was very new to me and look exciting

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, nerve racking. Like I know, I did

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>find myself being a bit jealous at times, which is

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>not usually my character. So, um, I think a little

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>jealousy is always good. That a little healthy jealousy, ye good.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>At times it was a lot like that. But then

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously being in such a public guy like, I feel

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like everything's a bit amplified, and um, you know now

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>that I'm I think I'm the only single person on

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>this podcast right now, Daniel, are you married to yet

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>or not yet? Yep, yep? Married? Huh yeah, I'm married. Yeah. See,

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like every one of your toxic traits have

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>turned into marriage, so that right by the world, and

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just recently single again. Um but yeah, getting there,

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 1>getting there. What do you gota doing when I'm I'm interested? Yeah,

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that everything I'm gonna say is is basically

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in tune with every what everyone else is saying. I

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 1>think my my biggest toxic trait that I possessed now.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of funny because actually, when you were

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>telling your story about how you went from like this

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>beloved character from the Bachelorette to this like quote unquote

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>bad boy in Paradise because you dumped a girl and

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>started dating some other girl who you ended up dating

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>for three years and you were still abled as to

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote, that's mind blowing to me. I had

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a similar journey where I was like the uh, Like

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>everyone felt bad for me on the Bachelorette and they

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like liked me, and then I went a Bachelor in

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 1>Paradise and I made a few mistakes and then I

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>was like crucified because of it. Um, I've done a

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>lot since then. That was like three years ago. But

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>my biggest toxic trait that I possessed now, I think

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>would be that I'm incredibly stubborn, And to Jake's point,

0:37:58.280 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like I kind of always have to

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>be like in you know, whether it's like an argument

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>or a conversation or whatever, and and that my stubbornness

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>really shines through a lot, like, um, if you tell

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>me not to do something that I want to do

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>or something, then I'll like make sure to do it

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>even like bigger and go harder and like make sure

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a point they're making, Like I'm doing this. I'm

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>doing this okay. Uh. And I'm sure if you ask

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Kalin about that, she probably wouldn't be too too happy

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. But I can be I think you can

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>air on the side of selfishness a little bit too

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>with my time. Like, you know, if I want to

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>go play golf with some friends, but I have like

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>some work to do around the house, I'll probably like

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>forego of the housework to go play golf with my

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>friends kind of thing. So, yeah, that's not toxic. That

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a good friend if you were asked. I

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>think if you were asked Kalen that, I think she'd

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, Dean plays way too much golf. He doesn't,

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, fulfilling his responsibilities around the house. There's a

0:38:55.680 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>bunch of shells that haven't been out to Yeah. I

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>say it all the time to Kyl and she's always like, dude,

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to like do these things, like I need

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to mount these things, like mount these things on the

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>wall and all this stuff, and like listen, like the

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 1>house is still gonna be here. We don't need those

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>things mount on the wall. Like that's just like a

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that's like a like an auxiliary thing. It doesn't really matter,

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know those are toxic traits on my end,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but we're working on him. At the end of the day,

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's all we can really hope to do

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>is just kind of improve on a regular basis. And Jake,

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like from from the like the little rundown

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>that I was given on you, like, uh, you were

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>saying how you used to like to go clubbing and

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like you like to be kind of more in the spotlight,

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>but you've been doing a lot of more like philanthropic

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>work and like you know, doing a lot more stuff

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that has been outside of that, which I think is great.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that kind of boils down to

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>like character development and personal growth, which is which is great. Yeah,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I definitely. I Look, I'll be the first trap, you know,

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>first coming off the bats Ratt and being thrown into

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.919
<v Speaker 1>that world and obviously, like I was single, and look,

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I had fun and you know, I was a new

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>experience and you know I was quite young. A will

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>be younger than I am. Yeah, Um, you know, I

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>think everyone does eventually grow up. But I feel like

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I've I've just done that in the public art that

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, one season about Thrett and then two seas

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>of paradise. You know, it's it's um, it's interesting to

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of watch back and see how far I've come,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I think. And of course, yeah, I was like your mentor,

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a hot man and a mentor in in Fiji when

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>we first met, and I was like Jake's guardian angel.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I was literally in Paradise for two full weeks, which,

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>as you guys know, is like seven rows ceremonies. I

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't kiss a girl. I went on like one day.

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I truly don't know how I made it that far

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and throughout the entire time you went on the date

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>with my eggs. Well, I did go on a day

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>with Megan. Listen, he's taken that out of context. It

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>was when I first got there. I didn't know any

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of the girls. I may have been like, yeah, I

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>mean she's a great girl. Great girl. Uh not anymore though,

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously I think you guys should fight each other. No,

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Jake would win. I don't. I don't. Okay, wait, before

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>we before we get Jake out of here, I got

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.720
<v Speaker 1>some rapid fire yes or no questions for you guys

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>on whether you think these are toxic or not. Okay,

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, so we'll be right back with some emails

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and rapid fire. All right, welcome back to help I

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>suck at dating. As Dean said, we have some rapid

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>fire questions. We stall have Courtney, Jake and me here obviously.

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh so, Dean, you want to get through these some

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of these rapid fires. Yeah, go ahead and read them

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>for well, let's have Courtney and Jake just give a

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>quick yes or no on whether they think they're toxic

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>or not. All right, here we go. All right, so

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the first one, and Dean you have to answer this too.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>We're all going to answer them together. We're one big

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>help suck army family here. All right. Having the passwords

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to a significant others or x's accounts and you check

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>them pretty frequently, have you done this toxic? Yes? That's toxic.

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I think having the passwords, having the passwords is not toxic,

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>but checking it frequently is toxic. Does your partner the

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>past or is this something? No, you're sneaky, sneaky that's toxic. Ye,

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 1>sneaky sneaks is toxic? All right? What about checking your

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>partner's location when they're not with you or have told

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you where they were going didn't have, so we check

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>out where were, you know, just for safety? Right. Well,

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 1>so I have I have my location shared with Kaitlin,

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and she has her shared with me. Uh, And I like,

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't really ever check her location. But I don't.

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she ever checks mind. But there was

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 1>one time we were in Las Vegas visiting her grandparents

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.919
<v Speaker 1>and I like stopped at a casino on my way

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>home to gamble for like an hour or two. Uh.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't And I didn't tell her. I always

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>doing that. I mean I had I had to do it.

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell her iways doing that. And I got

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>back to her grandparents house and she goes, she goes, hey,

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>why are you so late? And I was like, oh,

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a really bad traffic. And she goes, oh, oh

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you didn't go to the casino. And I go, wait,

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>how did you know what was at the casino? And

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>she told me she checked my location. I don't think

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.280
<v Speaker 1>it was toxic. I think she was just more like, okay,

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>where is he? Like, why is he taking so long?

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Sort of thing. Quick funny story about Dean. A couple

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, he was not found on that he

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 1>was late to the podcast and we didn't know what

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>was going on. And then we realized that Dean shared

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>his location with one of our producers, and we mark

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and we found out that he was on a golf course.

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>So we texted him and said, hey, why don't you

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>go to the clubhouse and record from there? And Dean's like, clubhouse,

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? And he's like, you're sharing

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>your location. I see that you're on a golf course.

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, that's another toxic trade. I had, Like,

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, another toxic or not checking up on an

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 1>X through social media or text. Example, Happy New Year,

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Happy Birthday, you send them I miss you text? So

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>checking up on an ex through social media or texting

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>them toxic or not toxic? I think you're single. It's like, hey,

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>why not? But I don't do that? Yeah, Jack, do

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you ever send Megan I miss you text? That's a

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>big question now for having for a while, having for

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a little while I drunk out. No, I'm actually shocking

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>with my phone when I'm when i'm drunk or i'm drinking,

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I just don't even look at it. But that's a

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>really good thing. That's definitely not like a bad thing too.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think the happy birthday and Merry Christmas if

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.959
<v Speaker 1>you are with a new partner, I think that's okay.

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, but like definitely not sitting like and I

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>missed you to an X when you have a new

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>partner or a new relationship, that's that's not good. What

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>about fly by Instagram stuff because I do get some

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, you know, people do that fly you know,

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 1>like the emojis you can react with, Like, I think

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that should be included in the question. I think like

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>reacting doing excess Instagram post you guys, Yeah, that's I think.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I Well, my thoughts on it are I will personally,

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>although I am like friendly with all my exes, I

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>would I would ever text any of them like Merry

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Christmas or Happy New Year, or I wouldn't even really

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>ever react to any other Instagram stories. But that's just me.

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone's different. I don't think there's a right

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>or wrong answer to that. Yeah, I agree with Dean, like,

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was like a random happy

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.720
<v Speaker 1>New Year, happy birthday like that sounds kind of fishy.

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>But I will say there are circumstances where you have

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to reach out to your ex for example, I actually

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>thought about reaching out to my ex recently because there's

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a mutual friend that just got a bad diagnosis with

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>health and I was and I only met this person

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>through my ex, and so I was like, do I

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 1>reach out to them to be like, hey, I don't

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>know if you I don't know, I just felt weird

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>not telling you about this, so or if you probably

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>knew or just wanted to, I don't know, So like

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that's been going through my head recently. But the only

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>way I'd reach out is if I get Ashley's permission.

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's kind of the caveat on those

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 1>That is the correct answer. Thank you, guys, I appreciate it.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>How about how about if you guys, get in a

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 1>fight with your significant other and then they start giving

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the silent treatment or like ignoring phone calls or text messages.

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Is that toxic? That's why too much? Do you say?

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced that? Why too much? And it does my

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>head in, like it just drives me inside, Like, so

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you get the silent treatment? Don't like affected onto you? Yeah?

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I just like I understand so arguments and you know,

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously has their own way of dealing with it. Cooling Diana.

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't say that's toxic. It's just extremely annoying,

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>slightly immature. I think, yeah, and I just you know,

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I get more frustrated. I'm like, why do you applying?

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Like what did I And then it's just just yeah,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just me, but it's so annoyed. It's definitely

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>not just you. It's super annoying. Yeah, I got good.

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>That's good. I'm relieved. So yeah, I would say toxic,

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like come on, now you can you know, if you're

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, you just you need to communicate, Like

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I get it. If one thing where like one partners

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like I need space and the other person will not

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:02.959
<v Speaker 1>allow that space, that's one thing. But if you guys

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>are like arguing and then you give them the silent treatment,

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>would be five years old, Like come on, in the

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>middle of the argument, I would I don't even want

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to think about that. I would lose my mind. Somebody

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>would really say I have guilty. I mean, I we

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>lived together, obviously, so I've been guilty of that for

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but not like huffing around the house.

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>But just like if something happens or there's a conversation

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 1>like I need time to process it and like kind

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of see you know what I mean, Like I've done that.

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>There are times where I don't necessarily like give him

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the siki the silent treatment, but I'm like, hey, I'm

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave for a week, get back kind of like

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>golf course for a way. That's way worse than the

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>silent treatment. Like but it's not it's not like it's

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not like I'm doing it's like prove a point or anything.

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, look, I just need to get I

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>need to be by myself for a week, not like

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the way from you, but just like away from everything

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>for a week. One of my that's that's how I

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>get to I'm like, I just need like a moment.

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite traits about our relationship, my relationship

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>with Ashes that we talk through everything and we never

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>get in to blow up arguments because we have great

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>communication skills. But I've had situations in the past. Holy

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>like I'm with you, guys, dude, the silent treatment is

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the worst because then you guys go your separate ways.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm still pissed as as hell, so I'm just like

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>fuming in my own mind and then like you see

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the person an hour later as you're walking by them

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like you're in a western about to pull your gun

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>and be and because you're still mad and like you're

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>not going to be the first person to apologize because

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you've been ignoring each other for hours and it's just

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like so awkward. God, I do not miss those. I

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>don't miss those anyway. All right, what else we got?

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's see? Next one is, uh, what about calling someone

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 1>hot in front of your significant other? So, I mean

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty self explainatory. What do you guys think toxic

0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>or not toxic? Because a little bit toxic, just a

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I think I think it really depends how

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you say it, Like if you're like wow, like I like,

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're like consinuating you want to hook up with them,

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 1>super toxic, but um it is human. Well it's natural, right,

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you know it kind of it kind of goes both

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>ways for ways. For me, Like if Caitlin and I

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 1>are watching a TV show or something, I'll like I'll

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>say like, oh, that girl is really pretty, or I'll

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>be like, wow, that guy is super hot. Like I'll

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely like just point out attractive people guy or a

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>girl that's good. Keep it even yeah, and maybe maybe

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I do the guys just to make it clear that

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, you know, pointing out attractive people, pretty girls.

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>He's on the patio, but I'll do that with girls

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and he'll say something like, well, I don't know, our

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 1>hair is a little more. I'm like, he's super respectful,

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>always plays, he never takes the day. Ever, I think

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 1>doing it. I think pointing somebody on a TV show

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in passing is like I think that's toxic. I think

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that's just like, yeah, like obviously everything as human attraction

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>is normal, but I think doing it in front of

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 1>your partner, like if someone is standing directly in front

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of you, like, wow, um, very nice to meet you.

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Very That's definitely the only thing I can relate to

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>is when we're watching Bachelors. So when Ashley watches it

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>with her sister, they get like super you know, chit

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 1>chatty about it, and so they'll just be like, oh

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>my god, he's he's hot, he's or like he's like

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 1>they'll say he's sexy, and I'm like, okay, that's enough

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>of that one. You can't say somebody's sexy. And then

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 1>they'll be like no, no, no no, we're not saying it like,

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>we're just saying it as like because we like looking

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>at that person's face. So for example, I was like, Okay,

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.760
<v Speaker 1>then I'm going to say who's sexy on the Bachelor.

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, no, no, no no, no, you can't do

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that because men are gross and you're visualizing like a

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>more gross situation with them, where us as women are

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>only looking at their face and how you know, beautiful

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>their faces. And I was like, this is the most

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 1>double standard conversation I've ever had in my entire life.

0:50:57.680 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>This is ridiculous. So that's the only so I think

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's toxic. It's all toxic. Don't say someone's hot in

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>front of your in front of your partner. Yeah yeah,

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you just go put in your place.

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>You like, no, Jared, shut up, bro, you've met my wife.

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm always put in my place. That's like my constant,

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>my constant state of place is being put in my place.

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do one more and then we'll jump

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>into emails. So the very last one is what about

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>is it toxic or not to create fake accounts to

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>stock or message your significant others to quote unquote text

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>test them. That's crazy. It's crazy and that's crazy and toxic.

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. Do you test them? Like? Uh? My

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>assumption with that is like you make like the like

0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>in your case, so you make the account of like

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a hot dude with washboard abs and then you start

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.359
<v Speaker 1>d m ng your significant other to see if they'll

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>like take the bait and like flirt back. You know,

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that's weird. Has that has that amount of time

0:51:55.920 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to question? Yeah? No, I I wish I could take

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>credit for it creating critic accounts. I yeah, I don't

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>know anybody who has a fake account. That seems pretty intense.

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done that when I was younger, like a fight,

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>not like a fake account with actually photos, but it

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was like a like a burner account. Yeah, I just

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>like it was a long time ago. Was literally did

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 1>check up on the next years and years ago. So

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm guilty of that, but not put me out photos

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>of and stuff like that. Maybe I should just shut up.

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.919
<v Speaker 1>I think that. I don't know, I think you should

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>keep going. I think this more pertains to like a

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 1>burner account, like you just create an Instagram account because

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like someone blocked you or I don't get the test part. Yeah, like,

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 1>are you are you trying to entrap your your boyfriend

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>or girlfriend? I wonder if actually don't know me. I

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I'll tell you what. Let's move Let's

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 1>move on to emails. I think that I think we

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 1>can all agree that's pretty toxic. But let's get into

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>our very non toxic listeners email. I mean, I'm assuming

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they're on toxic I guess, um, but do we want

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to have Mark chime in and read these for us

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 1>in his uh radio voice? Yeah? There is, Jen says.

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:11.919
<v Speaker 1>I am with my husband for a twelve years now,

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.839
<v Speaker 1>our ten your wedding anniversary is in April. For our

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>entire marriage, he has not only been the main breadwinner,

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but I have also been totally reliant upon him financially.

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>This past summer, I finally started my career. I work

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 1>outside the home for sixty plus hours a week. I

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>love it. It fulfills me. But I've realized my husband

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>needs me to need him. I can tell you're starting

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to present my career. How do I tell him or

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 1>show him that I love him just as much as

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I ever have, even if I don't need him in

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the same way. M hmmm, interesting. Interesting, that's tough because

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I kind of get that, you know, I get the idea.

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely someone who likes to provide um. So I

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>get him feeling devalued by his wife having, you know,

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.800
<v Speaker 1>not to rely on him much as much at least

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>while she should have to worry about that, and she

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>should focus on her own career because she's her own person.

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 1>You can do whatever she'd like. I kind of see

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 1>both sides of it, Courtney, what do you think? Was

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the question? Like, how do I show him? Doesn't she

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>want to do something nice to the anniversary? I would

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 1>she wants she wants to know how she can show

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>him that she loves him as much as she ever has.

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I would say, a heartfelt card. You can't go It's

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 1>got to be more than a card. Come on, it's

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna just it's just gonna go ahead and remind him

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't care. Oh, all you got me for

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.439
<v Speaker 1>a ten year anniversary was a stupid snoopy car. No,

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a heartfelt car. She needs to tell him. I mean

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 1>she's riding in. Okay, You're right. What else could she do?

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>She should just let him? I don't know, she should

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 1>need him, maybe a little more. She should get she

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>should get some lingerie. Yeah, I don't know. You know,

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's funny. I think I thought about this actually

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>just recently, about how like if and when I have

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to go back to be to working like forty hours

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a wee could like a more traditional job, like obviously,

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin and I enjoy spending as much time together as

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>we possibly can, and like let's say, you know, I'm

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>gone for a day or two, it's like, however long

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>it is any amount of time that I'm gone from

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Calin like she would prefer me to be there. And

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:13.839
<v Speaker 1>I always think about, like what's going to happen, like

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>if and when I have to go back to work

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 1>for fifty plus hours a week, then what is that

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 1>dynamic going to shift like? And how is that going

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to be like received from either side? Um, Jake, you

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>have any ideas for her how she can show her

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>husband that she still loves him. Yeah, I think you know,

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 1>from what I take from obviously, there's a lot of

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>love in that relationship, which is like its beautiful to say.

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think I have a bit of

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>different I'm such a romantic, Like I'm such a hopeless

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>romantic and I always have been, and like I always

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>will be. But I think obviously her dynamics change, and

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously she's working and she's making the money. There. I

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>think even just something simple like she just takes him

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>out or takes him on her and spoils him, or

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:53.280
<v Speaker 1>for a dinner or you know, a hot shot, whatever

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it may be, but like just it's her sort of

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 1>showing like, you know, I appreciate you, and this is

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>tonight you or not with us together, A really treat

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you to something special. I think that's that's why I

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:07.280
<v Speaker 1>look at it. I think for Jen, yeah, I again,

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I would just try to use words of affirmation as

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 1>best as possible and let him know how much you

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 1>rely on him, how much you love him. Maybe get

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 1>him a little bit more than a card. Get him

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a card. Cards are very sweet, great gift, not downplaying that,

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:25.959
<v Speaker 1>but maybe I don't know something that shows how much

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you do rely on him. What that is, I don't

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.839
<v Speaker 1>exactly have the answer. Maybe it's something intimate, maybe it's

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 1>something personal. I'm not sure, but hopefully it's something I've got.

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I've got an idea. I don't know if you guys

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>know this not, but Mark has been married to his

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 1>wife for a very long time, so maybe he's got

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a suggestion for I just think that men are really

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>simple creatures. They really are. And you've been able to

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>pick up on his insecurities and that's fine. You can

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>let him know you need him in so many ways.

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Can you come kill the spider for me? My car

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 1>is making a weird nurse. Can you check it out?

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I could use some shelve in the

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>office to help me with my new job, whatever it is.

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Just try to show him that you need him, and

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be just fine. This will be a blip

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 1>on the radar. He's a little weird about the whole thing.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 1>He's going to be fine. Just show him that you

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>need him around the house. He'll be okay. And this

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is why Mark, you know that has been in a

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>successful marriage for many, many years. Right, yeah, you know

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>now that you say that, Mark two, I'm wondering if

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe I put off doing all these household chores for Kalin,

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>because once I complete all of them, then she's not

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna need me anymore, and then I lose my I

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>lose my purpose in the relationship. So the longer I

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>put them off or the longer she needs me, So

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I just feel that value. All right, Mark, you got

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the last one for us? The anonymous This is anonymous.

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not usually a fan of getting to know a

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>person through technology, but during quarantine, I got bored and

0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>decided to try out a couple of dating apps. I

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>safely went on at least one day with a guy,

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and although we had a lot in common, a lot

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, I didn't feel the spark between us,

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>so it didn't lead to a second dage. My question is,

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>how do I know if I'm genuinely with it in

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a person or if I'm just looking to fill a

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>void that the quarantine situation has created. Well, Uh, first

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and foremost, Anonymous, I've got some weird question about this.

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.439
<v Speaker 1>I got a question about this weird wording. You said,

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I safely went on at least one date with a guy.

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just tell us that you wanted more

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>than one date with the guy? Why do you have

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to be so weird and biguous about that? I guess

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but uh, that's a good question. So

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.440
<v Speaker 1>she wants to know is if she is actually interested

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in a person or if she's just looking to fill

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the void that Quarantine has created. And I think the

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that she's even asking herself that question proves that

0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>she's just filling the void. Yeah, yeah, I think that's

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that's enough of it of a reason. I don't know, Jake,

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Um? Yeah, I think I agree

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with you on that one. But I think, um, you know,

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously in Quarantine, especially for you guys over, there's so

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 1>much more intense, but that that lack of human connection

0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and physical human connection, you know, I'm sure that that

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 1>would make send anyone sort of a bit insane or

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking to feel some sort of void. But um, yeah,

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I think diety apps are harmless and like talking to people,

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 1>but you never know when you're gonna feel that spark.

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I agree with you, Ding, but who knows

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>what what what could happen? It's kind the only way

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to put yourself out there right now. I mean, I

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>mean right really like go out to bars and stuff

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and meet people organically. It's it's gonna be crazy too,

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And I definitely, um, I don't envy that situation of

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like trying to date someone, especially like if you want

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to be dating people right now in America at least

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>not so much in Australia. But if you want to

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 1>be dating people right now, it's like tricky because you

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have to do it like safely and you have to

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.080
<v Speaker 1>take the precautions and you can't meet people like you're

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 1>used to meeting them, and so like everything's changed. But

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Jared, what do you think? I like,

0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's the only way you're ever going

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>to find out is if you go on our days

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>with this person, than either it gets better or it

1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get better. But the problem with doing that is

1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you also, COVID is very real and it's out there,

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:10.240
<v Speaker 1>so you have to take precautions. It's tough dating right now.

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I do not envy people who have to navigate the

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 1>dating world in COVID. I couldn't do it before COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have you know, Mark, Mark, you have some

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.040
<v Speaker 1>advice on this. Well, there's just a quote that I

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.720
<v Speaker 1>think applies to all single people during these times, and

1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it's um, don't let loneliness lower your standards. Better off

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 1>alone than with the wrong Person's right. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>stay of the course. There's nothing wrong with meeting new people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with spending time with them over virtually

1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:43.440
<v Speaker 1>or safely, however you want to do it. We can

1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:46.080
<v Speaker 1>all use more friends, more connections in our life, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't let it go farther than that just because you're

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>missing somebody in your life. I think you're better off

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<v Speaker 1>working on yourself. Yeah, as in that, do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>like my like like not forcing a relationship, just the same, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're regretted at some point? Yeah, yeah you said. I

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree. He's the stage voice on this very very

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<v Speaker 1>silly podcast, my dieting team. Any times I love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from you. What do you think tell me he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be your life coach. Well, that's can probably do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating, Jake,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the band. Thank you for joining us, um Courtney,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, thank you for co hosting with us. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I feel like we gotta have you back.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we didn't have a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>time to to have your co host anytime, anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>need me, I'm here. I'm not as good at podcasting

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys, but it's fun. So happy to join.

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<v Speaker 1>I got news for you already better at our jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and Uh, that's not. Obviously everybody can find you on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything else you want to plug Obviously you can still

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<v Speaker 1>pick up for your book. Yeah, that's still doing well. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm doing real estate full time. It's the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona's hot, so if you're looking to move to Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to help. Um. But yeah, I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>really it. That's all I got. I'm going to change

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram name too. I just officially changed my name. So,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you did change your last name. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about that. What is the new last name? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Precatto and I made my middle name my maiden name.

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<v Speaker 1>So Courtney Robertson Presciotto. If that happened this week, a

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<v Speaker 1>good gratulations. Next thing you have to change. Next thing

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<v Speaker 1>you have to change is your zoom name, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>still just Courtney Robert Babe, M I need to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about that. Actually, on my birthday this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to change my last name, so I

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<v Speaker 1>could use some advice on the process. What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you going to be? I want to change

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<v Speaker 1>my last name to my mother's maiden name of Bell,

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to go from Dean Unglert to Dean Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't know like the legal

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<v Speaker 1>process of how that's going to that's actually pretty simple

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<v Speaker 1>and you just send everythink in So yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing to do. You have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for the filing fee to officially change yourney, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of annoying. Um, I think it was like three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks. But and then you just zoom court connect

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<v Speaker 1>with the you know, a judge, and they just grant

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<v Speaker 1>you the name change. I know. It's kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of funny that you have to pay money to do

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<v Speaker 1>something that's so simple, like change the name, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay money to do everything with this, No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pay Oh anyway, Well, it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see you all. I will Courtney thank you. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Jake of course, everybody can find you on Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Ellis anything else you want to plug? Uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>not really, like it's just been been. I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of this podcast. You could just sort

1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:34.919
<v Speaker 1>of amate you guys. Obviously I've heard a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>you and seeing your mus screens and like Jared's my

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<v Speaker 1>longest Batchelor relationship in this whole entire process. Really, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a good boyfriend. It's the bromance that keeps us running

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. But now I will look honesfully, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys will stay stay well. It's snife stife,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, as soon as I can get over

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<v Speaker 1>there to visit, like I'll be on the first plane. Sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go ahead and call that a day. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys so much for joining in and listening. Be

1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:02.200
<v Speaker 1>sure to you next week where maybe we suck just

1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit less. Follow help by Suck at Dating

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