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Speaker 1: gonna get a little bit rough. I'm here for it.

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Speaker 4: to get straight to the conversation that I keep having

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Speaker 4: over and over and over on Instagram. Over and over,

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Speaker 4: I keep having this conversation. I want to do a

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Speaker 4: live show. I want to invite folks to come in

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Speaker 4: debate with me, teach me.

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Speaker 1: I want to be.

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Speaker 5: In the student pasture tonight, Marcellas, can I just get

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Speaker 5: in the student posture? I want to know why is

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Speaker 5: it every time I post empathy or any type of

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Speaker 5: concern for the three hundred thousand folks who are going

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Speaker 5: to be impacted with the federal layoffs. Why is it

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Speaker 5: somebody comes in the comments and say do for self?

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Speaker 5: They always say due for self? And so I want

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Speaker 5: to know. I want you all to educate me tonight.

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Speaker 5: I see we got somebody in the building. It's already

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Speaker 5: ready to go. You can turn your camera off. I

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Speaker 5: want to know what do you mean when y'all say

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Speaker 5: do for self? So the question that I have if

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Speaker 5: a contract administrator who's been working for the government for

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Speaker 5: the last ten fifteen years, the contract administrator no longer

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Speaker 5: has a job as the disability adjudicator. I used to

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Speaker 5: be one at the Social Security Administration. Marcelli's they say

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Speaker 5: due for self, So we're gonna unpack what due for

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Speaker 5: self mean tonight because I need I need somebody to

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Speaker 5: help me on dupe for self.

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Speaker 1: So let's invite. This is a live show you are on.

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Speaker 5: You are giving me permission to post this on straight Shot,

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Speaker 5: no Chase or podcasts.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into the dupe for self conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah teach me too, Yeah teach Marcella. We want to

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Speaker 1: be we want to be taught. We want to be taught.

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Speaker 5: We did all the due for self is y'all come

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Speaker 5: on up and let's have a conversation. I just invited

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Speaker 5: somebody in the room. Y'all welcome. We want to do

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Speaker 5: a big three way call we're gonna do for self.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me unmute. It's spelled O p h

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Speaker 5: E I oh O p h E l I A.

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Speaker 1: I'm unmuting you.

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Speaker 5: I'm asking you to unmute you ain't got to turn

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Speaker 5: on the camera because I know y'all doll never like

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Speaker 5: turn on the camera. Y'all don't never want to talk

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Speaker 5: about nothing and show nothing. If you don't turn your

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Speaker 5: I'm then I'm thinking you just planning. So turn your

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Speaker 5: mic on and teach me on do for self. Somebody

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Speaker 5: got to teach me on this due for self. If

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Speaker 5: somebody lose their job as a disability administrator at the

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Speaker 5: Social Security Administration Office, what job or what business are

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Speaker 5: they supposed to start?

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Speaker 1: No? No, do for self? No. See, that's where you're

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Speaker 1: getting confused.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm an extra. You out because I don't know

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Speaker 5: I've invited you, So I need to ask you out.

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Speaker 1: If you know if you in here just planning.

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Speaker 5: No, they they say, working a job ain't doing for self.

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Speaker 5: They say working a job is not doing for self.

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Speaker 5: So their answer continues to keep being do for self.

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Speaker 5: So somebody educate me on what due for self is.

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Speaker 5: Let's bring the Sean Fharoh media who commented, do for self?

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Speaker 5: Educate us love me and Marcellus is waiting I just

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Speaker 1: This is your time to shine and teach me. Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 3: Yes? So tip tests with Peace Black Pot with don

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Speaker 3: Seaun Farah to go through a radio be love it.

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Speaker 3: When I said you for sure, I was not at

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Speaker 3: all belitterally anyone who's working in nine to five jobs.

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Speaker 3: I was really saying that we, as people of African descent,

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Speaker 3: so I was merely re reinner reading. But uh, Elijiah Mohammed,

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Speaker 3: Marcus Garby Booker T. Washington said, except force, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: at all trying to cure a lack of empathy for

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Speaker 3: those who are getting ready to lose their job. But

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Speaker 3: I was explained against that other communities. You're absolutely correct,

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Speaker 3: most uh the black middle class definitely was created by uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, us getting federal jobs. However, I've always stated,

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Speaker 3: uh me being a Pan Africanist, me coming in the

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Speaker 3: I've always said that the black community needs to be

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Speaker 3: concept of economic uh stability. You know, our brother doctor

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Speaker 3: Anders Wilson here pris's many much of this in this

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Speaker 3: book Blueprint for Black Powers. And that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, here's where the economic education comes in. We

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Speaker 3: have our brother claud doctor Claude Anderson, doctor Boyce Watkins,

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Speaker 3: who have explained to what's the importance of saving our

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Speaker 3: So listen something that Elija Muhammad said. He said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to work, quote to the white man

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Speaker 3: die to five in our para freezing, make sure you

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Speaker 3: a job or create one for yourself. So that's all

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Speaker 3: I was saying. I wasn't all being dismissive, but I

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Speaker 3: I believe in black superronis. I believe in black independence,

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Speaker 3: something that was advocated by many of our great ones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, okay, well, thank you for joining man.

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Speaker 5: I just want to unpack this a little bit though,

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Speaker 5: because we are of the same mindset.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 5: I've been self employed for seventeen years, and what I

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Speaker 5: am finding to be frustrating. Thank you again for joining me.

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Speaker 5: What I'm finding frustrating is when I am talking about

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Speaker 5: what is happening in two weeks. You may not have

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Speaker 5: been dismissive, but there is a conversation that is having,

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Speaker 5: that is being had in the conscious community, that is saying,

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Speaker 5: you know, people just need to do for yourself. So

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Speaker 5: I went to your page and I see you're in media.

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Speaker 5: Not all forty six million black people are going to

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Speaker 5: want to have a podcast. We can't all be online

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Speaker 5: on YouTube all day because what that would mean is

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Speaker 5: forty six hundred of us are watching YouTube all day,

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Speaker 5: listening to do for self messages and nobody's actually working

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Speaker 5: a job. So what I what I find, what I

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Speaker 5: find and not with you. But what's important in this conversation,

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Speaker 5: Like I was talking to my brother nineteen kys the

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Speaker 5: other day, we must be realistic with people also on

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Speaker 5: what it means to be self employed. We must also

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Speaker 5: remember that we are in America. So this idea of

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Speaker 5: complete independence and not having to depend on anything or

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Speaker 5: nothing at all is getting lost in the conversation because

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Speaker 5: the reality of it is, yes, everybody is not an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 5: The reality of it is everybody doesn't have the capacity,

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Speaker 5: everybody doesn't have the capability.

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Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't want.

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Speaker 5: To take a risky job, so a risky to have

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Speaker 5: a business. So if we're gonna talk about do for self,

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Speaker 5: let's actually really talk about Let's talk about how sometimes

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Speaker 5: two years at a time, I don't get a payment.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about how people don't pay their contracts on time.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about how I looked at your page. You

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Speaker 5: got cash app up, I'm taking cash apps, we takeing donation.

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Speaker 5: One would argue that's not doing for self. Let's talk

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Speaker 5: about how I don't have health care insurance. If something

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Speaker 5: to afford health care insurance. So there is this conversation

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Speaker 5: of we just need to be totally independent. And the

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Speaker 5: problem that I'm having with that, brother is as you

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Speaker 5: just like you quoted doctor Claude Anderson. He also talked

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Speaker 5: about having political influence as well, So a lot of

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Speaker 5: what our brothers are talking about in the total reliance

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Speaker 5: if you want a legal business, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 5: actually need to have a permit. If you're gonna have

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Speaker 5: an actual location, you actually need to have a relationship

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Speaker 5: If you're going to have a legal business, you actually

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Speaker 5: got to pay insurance, You actually got to pay employees.

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Speaker 1: You actually have to have federal guidelines.

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Speaker 5: If you're going to be something beyond just on YouTube

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Speaker 5: and want to say, okay, I want to get into

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Speaker 5: the media space, there's something called the FCC. So this

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Speaker 5: idea of we just need to be totally dependent on

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Speaker 5: each other, to me, when I'm talking about this, the

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Speaker 5: message of reality is getting lost. And you know what

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Speaker 5: is actually required to raise a family that costs the

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Speaker 5: average of forty thousand dollars a year for each child,

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Speaker 5: four hundred thousand by the time they're eighteen. Missing the

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Speaker 5: political conversation, I love my brother nineteen keys. You argue

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Speaker 5: about this all the time. You know you still you

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Speaker 5: are in America. There's no sovereign land. No, we don't

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Speaker 5: own lands. It's one percent of black farmers right now,

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Speaker 5: one percent, and we had to suit a government for that.

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Speaker 5: So I am about the long term vision, brother, But

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Speaker 5: what I'm talking about right now is three hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: black people will be laid off effective April first, March thirteenth.

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Speaker 5: These are people with transferrable skills that if they're I

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Speaker 5: was a disability adjudicated for one year with the government,

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Speaker 5: what other what do for self business?

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Speaker 1: Are y'all talking about?

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Speaker 5: Start a podcast on how to examine disability documents? I

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Speaker 5: mean the reality in everybody that I hear saying this

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Speaker 5: are podcasters.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being real. Doctor Boyce Watkins.

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Speaker 5: He sells seminars for one thousand dollars, five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it real. They sell books, they sell

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Speaker 1: nineteen keys. You online, you won lie. Everybody ain't doing that, brother.

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Speaker 1: So what are these average everyday working folks.

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Speaker 5: Supposed to do to pay the bills, to get the

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Speaker 5: health care, to get the support that they need?

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Speaker 1: Right in a right now, not not no forty your vision,

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Speaker 1: but in right now.

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Speaker 5: So for what, So give me an example. So my question,

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Speaker 5: Give give me a due for self product that doesn't

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Speaker 5: Muslim, So give it to everybody, because the Muslims take

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Speaker 3: I would recommend getting involved in entrepreneurship. So many things

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Speaker 3: Would never hear me, I'm about on the whole sovereign tip.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but every community that has to have some type

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Speaker 3: I think that the African I've always said this the teenager.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's because I got a I got a master's

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Speaker 5: So I just really believe that we have to stop

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Speaker 5: They did not was not going to be able to

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Speaker 5: about the whole process because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: they still have to have they still have to have

437
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Speaker 5: that a place open.

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Speaker 1: They still had to have the permit.

439
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 5: We still got a call down to the city of

440
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Speaker 5: the City of Atlanta to make sure we got tents

441
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Speaker 5: for the vendors the do for self vendors that are coming.

442
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 5: They actually need tents so they can have their stuff,

443
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 5: you know, display their stuff. So we at the call

444
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 5: city Hall to make sure that they can have tents.

445
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Speaker 5: And because Demetrius McCrae, who gives a damn about black

446
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: business because he's in a position of power, director of constituency,

447
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 5: gives a damn about having tents. So we can't exclude

448
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Speaker 5: that from the conversation and say, oh, we'll just do

449
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 5: it without the tents, because see, if we do it

450
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Speaker 5: without the tents, then that gives uh the opportunity for

451
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 5: the police to show up and then shoot somebody, kill

452
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 5: somebody because we because we responded in a hostil way.

453
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Speaker 5: So I just want to make sure that as we're

454
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Speaker 5: having this do for self self dependent, self reliance, we're

455
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Speaker 5: gonna all have our own nation. Just to remind people,

456
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 5: everybody's not a member of the of the Nation of Islam.

457
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Speaker 5: Everybody doesn't everybody.

458
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Speaker 1: Is not an entrepreneur.

459
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Speaker 5: If we're gonna really be honest about it, brother, if

460
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Speaker 5: we're just gonna be real, the nation takes care of

461
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 5: the nation as they should, as they should, I know,

462
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Speaker 5: but I'm just using that as an example. But I'm

463
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Speaker 5: just using that as an exam because that's the most

464
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Speaker 5: self reliant that that is leadership.

465
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Speaker 1: I make no mistake about it.

466
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Speaker 5: There's plenty of it, but it ain't nothing like the nation,

467
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: and so we just have to we have to be

468
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Speaker 5: honest with people and say, the nation cake your name,

469
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Speaker 5: that's why you part of the nation.

470
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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be part of the nation, brother, because.

471
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Speaker 3: I'm reading some of the people's comments and perhaps they

472
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Speaker 3: tuned elite. I'm gonna have I'm gonna see this again

473
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Speaker 3: for those who are trying to get but Sovereign said,

474
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Speaker 3: I don't advocate that I'll buy something from that whole

475
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Speaker 3: just you don't get a new get a new Lorrish

476
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Speaker 3: pass forge. I'm not on that. Okay, what happened on that? Okay,

477
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: that's not bi okay. So I'm just letting people know

478
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Speaker 3: that I understand. You know, you have to obey the

479
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Speaker 3: laws that you live on, just as long as they

480
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Speaker 3: don't colic for uman ravity. So I'm just making that clear.

481
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Speaker 3: Oh just look up, you know, google me. You see

482
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Speaker 3: what I'm about.

483
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Speaker 5: Okayreare No, Well, I don't worry about them. I'm loving

484
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 5: our conversation. Somebody in the classroom, listen, what black media

485
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Speaker 5: is missing all the time?

486
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Speaker 3: Not you know, because I should say mainstream black media.

487
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Speaker 1: So well yeah, well yeah, and that's fine. We're having

488
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Speaker 1: it now.

489
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Speaker 5: You know I just like I said, I'm glad you

490
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Speaker 5: came on to clarify because as I every time I

491
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Speaker 5: say somebody these spederal job, somebody comes in and say

492
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Speaker 5: do for self. And so I just wanted to make

493
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Speaker 5: sure that we're we're having the complete.

494
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Speaker 3: I've always said, okay, yes, as pull blackness athrocentric as

495
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Speaker 3: I am, I will never tell the person who don't

496
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Speaker 3: work man's job, that's not me. I believe my cheaking

497
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Speaker 3: ones get a job, eat one to yourself. I will

498
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: never shame a person. Let me let me give you

499
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Speaker 3: an example. You and I have both know sisters that

500
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Speaker 3: have had to dance ripples even when I was in

501
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: my undergrad das. You know our new systems that have

502
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Speaker 3: that dance to put themselves through school.

503
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Speaker 1: Is that due for self? By the way, is that

504
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: due for self? Is that due for self?

505
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm saying yes today, okay, I.

506
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Speaker 1: Just wanna make sure it failing to do for self

507
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Speaker 1: category right.

508
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Speaker 3: You would never hear me saying, oh, my black pleague,

509
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Speaker 3: you're the brother's civilization. Don't dance to support yourself. I've

510
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Speaker 3: never been like that. You know why, because my thing

511
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Speaker 3: is if I cannot replace what you're making. You're making

512
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Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars a week literally, and our new sisters

513
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Speaker 3: that made that type of money dancing, I would never

514
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Speaker 3: tell her don't dance if I can't replace them in anything. Oftentimes,

515
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Speaker 3: and this is the problem that I'm noticing with a

516
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Speaker 3: lot of us holistic brothers and sistems. Wean't tell our

517
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Speaker 3: people don't eat pork, don't eat red meat. We take

518
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Speaker 3: that out of the house, and they don't replace them

519
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Speaker 3: in right.

520
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Speaker 5: So let's so let's so let's unpack that with the strippers.

521
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: Let's let's let's go there. Somebody somebody gotta tip the strippers.

522
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, should the the brother that work at the

523
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Speaker 5: federal job or the warehouse that ain't doing for self

524
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 5: who working out, don't he got to spend the money

525
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 5: on the stripper.

526
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Speaker 1: Somebody gotta pay the stripper.

527
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying this duper said like if we we

528
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Speaker 5: all can't be somebody got to be consumers.

529
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

530
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Speaker 3: People. When people have accused me of being uh too

531
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: involved in the system, and I've let them know. You know, listen,

532
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: I've actually had this to dat many times before. You know,

533
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: you accuse me of being full because I'm a member

534
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Speaker 3: five f the sigama. I said, But brother, I said,

535
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Speaker 3: you got you know, since you have a problem so

536
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: much with white supremacy and me being quote a Greek uh,

537
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Speaker 3: hand over those white person that you have in your pocket,

538
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Speaker 3: may tis.

539
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Speaker 5: But but I want to make sure we answered my question.

540
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 5: The one that give a strip of the money besides

541
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 5: the dog dealers and the hustlers, the regular brother that

542
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: work at the corporate job, the regular brother, our sister,

543
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 5: if you will, the regular brother that's working for the

544
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: man at the warehouse, and all of them non do

545
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 5: for self? How do the striper get to ten thousand

546
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: a week if she say, well, you know, we only

547
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 5: going to circle circulate to do for self money. My

548
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: point I'm making here is, yeah, my point I'm making

549
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: here is everybody cannot do the same thing exactly.

550
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Speaker 1: That's it. It can't. Everybody can't do the same thing.

551
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: That's why I don't I say, I don't knock people

552
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: for having nine to five. You know, just recently I

553
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: was working two jobs Welco with my podcast.

554
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I and I have whether it's uber whether

555
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: I've sold shoes or twelve dollars an hour. I don't

556
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 5: have no shame whether I sold cell phones at T Mobile.

557
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 5: I want people to know what really come with this.

558
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: Do for self by yourself? Running a business for seventeen years,

559
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Speaker 5: and I would think that I'm pretty I'm pretty good

560
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: at what I do, and I've made some pretty good accomplishments.

561
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: And even with that, even with that, they are whole

562
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 5: years where I don't get a due for self. Doggar

563
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: see that due for self means zero many many times.

564
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 5: And so a lot of people can't handle that level

565
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 5: of risk, that level of stress that I have not.

566
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 5: And the reality is, and I was an African American

567
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: Ambassador chairperson in Orlando, the reality of it is most

568
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 5: black businesses due for self. Black businesses have one or

569
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 5: two employees at best. It is very hard to scale

570
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: up because we got the lack of capital because you

571
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 5: gotta go to the white folks to get the capital.

572
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: Say, I know, we say dupe for self, but they

573
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: got the capital.

574
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 5: So a lack of capital or we don't the contracts

575
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: we do try to get, y'all say, don't do that

576
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: because that ain't doing for self.

577
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Don't go to the government to get no.

578
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 5: Contract so who's supposed to give us the multi million

579
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 5: dollar contracts to get into an economic position to actually

580
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 5: be middle class, which is eighty thousand, two hundred and

581
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: twenty thousand per year. So there's just missing some there's

582
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 5: a lot that's missing from this, and I'm just finding

583
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: it very disturbing, and I'm glad you came on to explain.

584
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: But overall, Brother, just like somebody earlier said the same thing,

585
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: if you didn't come on to explain, I would have

586
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: thought you were just like him, because he came on

587
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: and said, duke for self, it's just a scare tactic.

588
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm on YouTube.

589
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 5: But then when I went to the YouTube, it's two

590
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: UNDERD subscribers, and I know he ain't monetized on YouTube.

591
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: So I just feel a lot of people are selling dreams.

592
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: Testament. I've always been derby ballanced. Like I said, you

593
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: know my fact you and I wanted. I've always followed

594
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: you for quite some time. It's because of the fact

595
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 3: that you're very balanced. You come into miodic balance. You're

596
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: not crazy. But I've listened for quite some time. You

597
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: may not remember this, but right after brother Typeek's reparations,

598
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: marn't you know I covered that the first one. You

599
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: and I want Twitter live because someone that put up

600
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: a video. I did a commentary and someone put up

601
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: a video spiceing it like I was knocking the march. Okay,

602
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: but you and I on Twitter line. But every once

603
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: in a while we've actually spoken. Okay, but I always

604
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: here yourself. You actually you're one of my heroes. I

605
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: actually look out actually thank you, yes, ma'am. Now, of

606
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: course they're probably gonna say that I'm call a whole

607
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: tel running game on you.

608
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: No, no, they call that simping.

609
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: Well, you know, anytime you know you ain't run a game,

610
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: that ain't a hotel run a game. Well, anytime a

611
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: man is nice to a woman, they call that simping. Yeah,

612
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 5: well I appreciate Can I can I simp for you back?

613
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: If that's what being nice means. Yeah, I appreciate it.

614
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: I appreciate you coming on to have the dialogue seriously, because.

615
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Tony Brown and you know these to have to you know,

616
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: one of my one of my fist colleagues, Do it ease?

617
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: Are the type of conversation America's black forms. No love.

618
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: This is what we do is as you and I

619
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: for love it to not just black journalists. We are

620
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: revolution every black journeys, right.

621
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Speaker 5: I just I guess, brother, My thing is, I just

622
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: know everybody can't be no journalists. You know, everybody don't

623
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 5: have to gift the gap. Everybody can't start a podcast.

624
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: Everybody can't. And and most of the people, I'm just

625
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: being honest, our brothers and sisters that that are out

626
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: here talking about self, they're YouTubers, so so we all

627
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: can be on YouTube.

628
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: I've snapped on people whenever, once again, whenever people have

629
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: accused me of being a member of the pool A,

630
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: you know, get up there attacking everybody, including other black

631
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: media personality such as ourselves. I'll let them know with

632
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: Wayne mccleoud, you must not be all that independent because

633
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: every night you have people send you thousands of dollars

634
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: of the white man's money. Right, you're getting the pool

635
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: A money, right.

636
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right, And that's all I'm saying.

637
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: I just it would be disingenuous of me and not

638
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: did this engine wrong cruel if I did not tell

639
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 5: people the reality. I've gotten ten awards, half of them

640
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 5: on business Back to business, I've had three hundred employees

641
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: signed in the front of the check. I love entrepreneurship.

642
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 5: I won Entrepreneur of the Year last year with the

643
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: Department of Commerce. I'm with you, but I also have

644
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: to tell people the other side of that, of what

645
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 5: actually he comes with that? Why most businesses black, white, indifferent,

646
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 5: most businesses fail in the first year. Why I have

647
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: had to also work side hustle. I keep a substitute

648
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: teacher past every year, no matter what, you know how

649
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 5: much I'll make absolutely.

650
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 3: Let me tell you some attentions when I've had security certifications.

651
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Speaker 5: I've had absolutely insurance certifications. I'm a certified mediator, man.

652
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 5: I make sure you know how much I make with

653
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 5: having two master's degrees at a substitute teacher one hundred

654
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: dollars a day.

655
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: I keep that. Yeah, I keep that.

656
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: Because I say, what about if revolt don't pay? What

657
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 5: about if I don't get another contract? What about if

658
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 5: I don't I need to be able to go to

659
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: that job and be able to say, if nothing else,

660
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: I can put food on the table for my child.

661
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: And so people who are intentionally misleading our people and

662
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: not focusing on I guess I want more responses focusing

663
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 5: on what do these individuals do three hundred thousand impacted,

664
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 5: the black middle class directly impacted. All of them are

665
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: not gonna start a podcast tomorrow. You need four thousand

666
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: watch hours, you need four thousand something subscribers.

667
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

668
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: I'm not monetized on YouTube. So even people with major

669
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 5: platforms don't make this so called money that people are

670
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: sitting up here pretending, in lying and capping, acting like

671
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 5: everybody making six figures from online. That's just simply not true.

672
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: And everybody don't want to sell products white labeling. If

673
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: you will, if we're gonna be honest about it, taking

674
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 5: the white man's product and putting the label on it

675
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 5: and saying, oh, okay, now I'm selling batteries or now I'm

676
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 5: selling this and selling the consumer still has to be

677
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 5: available to purchase the product.

678
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: And that is the working class.

679
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 5: So we must protect the working class, because if the

680
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: working class is not protected, nobody gonna be watching anything.

681
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I've told everybody, from comedians to rappers to.

682
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 5: Podcast everybody, all of us have a vested interest and

683
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: what is happening to our community right now. I'm not

684
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 5: talking about who wrote what in what book twenty thirty

685
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: years ago. I'm talking about what is happening right now

686
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: in the next phase. What we are seeing now is

687
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 5: something we have never ever seen in our generation on

688
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: how the rug is getting ready to be pulled.

689
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: This is not a scare tactic, it's not a game,

690
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: it's not a joke.

691
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 5: These things that are getting ready to happen to black

692
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: people are being done so by policy, by policy. So

693
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: when people say policy don't matter, politiz ain't something about you,

694
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, in general, policy don't matter this and that.

695
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I get it.

696
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: I know it's a lot of black conscious brothers not

697
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: with the LGBT. Great, but them three hundred something executive orders,

698
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: only a handful of had to do with LGBT.

699
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Them mother executive orders. That is literally getting rid. My

700
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: grandfather retired twice at the post office. He passed away.

701
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Now this is not for me personally.

702
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: My mother's sixty two found solace in working for the

703
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 5: government and the Face Base Initiative.

704
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: That's what took care of her cancer bills when she died.

705
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 5: My grandmother that worked as a bus driver for the

706
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: school my best friend.

707
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Twenty five years.

708
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: They just went to a four day work week because

709
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: they don't have the money to those kids. I got

710
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 5: another friend that suffers with anxiety and took a government job.

711
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: She got a job basically because they hire people with disabilities.

712
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: Now they're forcing them to go back into office. She's

713
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: griddled with anxiety just going.

714
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Into the These are the real things.

715
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: I ain't talking about me because I'm a hustler. I

716
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: didn't like working no government job, because government jobs they

717
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 5: only want to reward you based on tenure. I didn't

718
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 5: like that, so I did mine one time, moved on.

719
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 5: But everybody's not me. I cannot sit up here that

720
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: like this is not going to effect the everyday middle class,

721
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: working class. And a lot of the comments that I'm

722
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 5: seeing in the conscious community, I'm gonna be honest with you.

723
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: It's giving jealousy. Oh they're gonna have to come down

724
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: here like everybody else. They're gonna have to do this

725
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: like everybody else. No more free tickets. What free tickets?

726
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: What is this?

727
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: Anti?

728
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 5: Mad as somebody who got a degree, mad as somebody

729
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: who didn't have a background for the federal job.

730
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: Because some of this has given jealousy. Some of this

731
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: has given jealousy.

732
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: Well that's advised you for quite some time. With elements

733
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: of the country community. There's definitely an anti intellectual, anti

734
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: prosperity gospel.

735
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: It absolutely is.

736
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: If you're looking like I told you. I can't tell

737
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: you how many times I've been accused of being in

738
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: the bull a one time I have to put up

739
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: on Facebook. I did it several times. I said. Look,

740
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: I said, if I'm a member of the Bulet, such

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: a well connected, secret, powerful organization, I must not being

742
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: good staffed because when it was time for me to

743
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: pay back my student law.

744
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 5: And then again, what what I'm trying to figure out?

745
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: Why do people waste so much energy? We all need

746
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: each other.

747
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: The Bulet, the hood.

748
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 5: This is that the income gap ratio is too wide

749
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 5: to be sitting around there talking about because see I got.

750
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: Let me, let me go on, and you know, I

751
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: deal with the hood. That's all I'm gonna ever be

752
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: with and I ever will. But let's let but let

753
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: me let me remind, Let me remind my hood a's

754
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: and hood brother something.

755
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: See, while many of you and not all of you,

756
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 5: but I must put this out here, while many are

757
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 5: celebrating the Boulet, if you, if you will be educated,

758
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: losing their jobs and all that, let me go ahead

759
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 5: and remind y'all that America is a hierarchy bottom line.

760
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: So if this, if this is a race to the bottom,

761
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: guess who's gonna have your job? That federal worker with

762
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: that degree that y'all keep talking about, that don't have

763
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: the background that y'all keep talking about, meaning criminal background,

764
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: that don't have that got the education experience. I want

765
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 5: to make sure why y'all are laughing at them, they're

766
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: coming to get your job.

767
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: See, that's the whole thing. And then you're gonna go

768
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: even lower. See.

769
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: So no matter what education, skill experience, in this society

770
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: that we live in right now, effective right now today,

771
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: those people are still gonna be in front of the

772
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 5: line than you.

773
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: That's the reality.

774
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: So if the boulet, if the educated, if the they

775
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 5: need to come down and do for self, and they

776
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 5: need to come get the warehouse jobs.

777
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: Bet they're gonna get the warehouse jobs.

778
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 5: And then where are you gonna go? Brother and sisters?

779
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 5: Look like you going to the fields? Because the immigrants,

780
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: who so y'all say, get out, guess who goes?

781
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Somebody gotta go to them fields.

782
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, there's always gonna

783
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: be somebody above somebody, So what I would like us

784
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: to do? And when I say us, I'm not talking

785
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 5: about no forty six million black people. The reason I'm

786
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 5: doing micro organizing, I'm dumb, brother, with forty six million,

787
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: this is about one hundred people in the room. So

788
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: the one hundred people I'm putting in the room, raise

789
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: your hand. Do you know how to anybody here know

790
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 5: how to sew? Because you know when we don't know

791
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: how to sell no more? Do anybody know how to sel?

792
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: Do anybody know how to plant something? Do anybody in

793
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: here you know? Do we got a couple of elected

794
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: officials in here? Is it a carpenter in here? Is

795
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 5: it an educator in here? In case they cut you

796
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: down the four days a week? Do we got some

797
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 5: teachers in here that can teach the baby on the

798
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: fifth day. I'm trying to do micro organizing with one

799
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 5: hundred people in the room, all of this forty six

800
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 5: because I have to make an impact right now. And

801
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: what people don't understand is we have to brace for

802
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: impact right now, right now. We can't this ain't no

803
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 5: read this book, that book. This is right now, brother,

804
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 5: in the next thirty days.

805
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: I understand listen. You know, you know doctor Collin du

806
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: muhammad A what we said, try to intellect you. Why

807
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: is your way out of business? And I'm definitely against that.

808
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: We cannot intellect your wives are way out of this.

809
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I just I need the Hood working with

810
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: the Bulet, the Bulet working with the hood, like we

811
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 5: absolutely need each other. And anybody that can hear this

812
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 5: within the sound of my voice, you better figure out

813
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 5: how to micro organize right now in your community because

814
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: everybody don't have a tribe.

815
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: Everybody don't have a friend. Everybody both my parents in

816
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: the ground.

817
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: You know, I've lost twenty five immediate family members. I

818
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: did a assessment, me and my best friends. She's like

819
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: a sister, which one of us own? Okay, I got two?

820
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: I got three d's in my name. Okay, we know

821
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: we got that. If the shit get heavy, hey would

822
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: Hey it's not the newest house, but but but I

823
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: own it. You know, I own what Most of my

824
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: friends Mary friends don't even own their home. People talking

825
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 5: about it. Well, I'm gonna go to Goma, go to

826
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: Gonah with who and what and where. It's an app

827
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 5: You need half a million dollars to go to Ghana

828
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 5: gonna say, y'all better stay where you'all at.

829
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: You don't even know your house here in America. How

830
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: you gonna owe something in gone?

831
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: So the bottom line is we are here, we are

832
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 5: stuck with each other, and we better figure it out out.

833
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 5: Marcella is my co host, is sitting up in the background.

834
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 5: You know what I'm getting ready to say.

835
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: He refused to get a room mate. Okay, Well keep

836
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: up there in Marcella, keep on refusing. Keep on, y'all

837
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: better get roommates.

838
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 5: You better make your relationships last. Y'all better wear go back.

839
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: I told my daughter she goes to college in August,

840
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 5: have a good time, baby, because soon as you graduate,

841
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 5: you coming back to the house.

842
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: Well, you know what they do in New York and

843
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: a lot of these major cities across the country, including Atlanta.

844
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm noticing you actually have a lot of a lot

845
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: of whites are doing this. They're doing the co ops

846
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: mm hmm, befo to a department. Somebody's winning the closet.

847
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: That's right. The immigrants do that. The immigrants do that.

848
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: D professional.

849
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, when Marcella say, Marcella say he ain't doing You

850
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: know when I told you can't seeing me on his own.

851
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 5: But when I told Marcella, he said, he gave me

852
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 5: a look so so crazy.

853
00:40:51,920 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I share, I say, he.

854
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 5: Oh, he's being very bougeois. He said he wished he

855
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: would He said he wished he would not me. Maybe

856
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: I've rent after the couch. Somebody want to be in

857
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 5: the class.

858
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it do it here.

859
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 5: So I that's what I'm trying. That those are my

860
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: three principles. Say stack strap, y'all better figure it out.

861
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: You better figure out all this being above it. Y'all

862
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: better make them relationships work. Sugar mamas, get on deck. Hey, brothers,

863
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: y'all want to be Yeah.

864
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: This is one of the reasons why you remember. That's

865
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of black folk and misinterpreing in

866
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: Bukutine Washington. Bokute Washington told us, you know, you know,

867
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: when people accused him of being anti intellectual, that stops

868
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: built the college. He was telling us to step with

869
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 3: the hearth. And that's why at one time, many, if

870
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: not most of your hpc us that that had the

871
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: name of like A and m A and t aguaculture.

872
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: They were following after the Tuskegee university model, and that's

873
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: what Booking was saying. You know, he was explaining that

874
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: to a step with the hearth. Make sure you learn

875
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: the trade, make sure you can you know, you know,

876
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: stay in the earth.

877
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 5: Right well P for p BJ P B E. Jack

878
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 5: in the comments said black people can't live together. Well,

879
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 5: you better start figuring it out. Y'all better start figuring

880
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 5: it out. You better figure it out, like we're gonna

881
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 5: figure it out because they've rent about to hit heavy

882
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: them terrorists that are about to be said. This ain't

883
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 5: we ain't got to make this up. This is policy.

884
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 5: This is actually happening in the next two or three weeks.

885
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: The money that the tax they put on China, guess

886
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 5: what China doing, They're putting.

887
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: It right back on us.

888
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna ask you, if you go to China,

889
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 5: how much stuff you gonna see satan made in America.

890
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: But I know for sure you're gonna see some America

891
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 5: over here. Ninety nine percent of our shoes come from China.

892
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 5: So the tax is coming, baby, So black people, y'all

893
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: better learn all this. Marcellus above it and he hang

894
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: get somebody else to do it.

895
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Y'all better figure it out. You better figure it out.

896
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something down here, what you're saying.

897
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: But for some reason, based on Barcelver's last I like

898
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: myselfs I'm gonna get sorry for myself as I like

899
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: you brother.

900
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: Back Brown, Yeah, I got I like Marcella took you better.

901
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: I'll be telling my time, marcels Ain't nobody got time

902
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: for that.

903
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: You better figure it out. Get on this. I'm giving

904
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: people the real deal, you.

905
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: Know, the real deal on what it means. What do

906
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: it mean to survive? This is about survival. Where where

907
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 5: a survival mode?

908
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: No listen, I'll argue that for quite some time, Black

909
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: America has been on survival more the century weeks.

910
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we really about to be on it. Well,

911
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: we about to be on it like you ain't never

912
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: seen on it. Though, this is gonna be different.

913
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: With the see right down with Trump, well with to

914
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: see white supremacy on steroids.

915
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 5: Yep, that's exactly we're looking at the policy. That's why

916
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: this is not about a scare tactic. We're looking at

917
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: the policy like the Maryland UH is the only place

918
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: where black people not only thrive, not only survive, but

919
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: thrive outside of Atlanta that's the capital. That's right, that's

920
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: the capital of black middle class.

921
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm living in DC part time. That's how

922
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: I first became away from George's County, but to this

923
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: state that's stay.

924
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: That's right. So when people are sitting up here talking, well,

925
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: that's right.

926
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: Okay, then where that cousin used to borrow that two

927
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 5: hundred dollars from that two hundred and fifty dollars that

928
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 5: circulated around.

929
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: From the black middle class. Ain't it Ain't gonna be

930
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: too many.

931
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: People laughing when we start seeing how it's gonna trickle

932
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 5: down to our community. Because it's about to trickle down

933
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 5: our community. So I'm just trying to tell people, hey, guys,

934
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: we gotta figure it out.

935
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: We gotta get in the room and figure that out.

936
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: And they're gonna be no. Forty six million.

937
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: I'm looking for three hundred. If it's good enough for

938
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 5: Gideon's army, it's good enough for me. Y'all better get

939
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: on board and get on train and get busy. And

940
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: that's that's that's all I can do, brother, because I

941
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 5: feel overwhelmed, you know, And it's not even affecting me directly,

942
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 5: just the indirect just the thought of it all. That

943
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: article I'll put up yesterday, guys, it was sixty two

944
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 5: year old black woman that said they gave her ninety.

945
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: Minutes to get out already.

946
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 5: That is devastating. That is devastating. People get depression, suicidal.

947
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 5: That is devastating. So when people say, oh, that is

948
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 5: all right, white people gonna deal with it too. White

949
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: poor man is in a better position a black poor

950
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 5: man done. Don't you ever forget it.

951
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 3: Anytime America, anytime America gets sick, black people catch them

952
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: on you. That's it.

953
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: So we better start figuring it out. We gotta start

954
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: figuring it out. Guys. I appreciate you coming on. I

955
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: would love to have you back.

956
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, Dad, Like you know, I'm

957
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 3: not at all. Uh, there's a word that I'm trying

958
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: to figure out. I can't tell you how long that

959
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: I've been trying to dive logue you on air. Oh wow,

960
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: for quite some time. Like I said, because you know,

961
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: you're a bad system when it comes to these conversations.

962
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and you have it.

963
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, that's why I've been promoted for your

964
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: March thirty with it.

965
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

966
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: I've been promoted for that, but we deep more dialogues

967
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: like this. But I can't see you how long I

968
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: wanted us to be on air like this.

969
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Oh well, you always welcome to come.

970
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start doing better with putting the link, you know,

971
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 5: for people to join the zoom. Y'all put a five

972
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 5: in a chat of y'all, like a live conversation like this,

973
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 5: people can join in.

974
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't mind.

975
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm not like these gatekeepers that's running

976
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: around here now now they all going crazy because they

977
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 5: donet got gate kept. I open up my podcast to folks.

978
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 5: I don't have no problem if y'all want to jump in,

979
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 5: and we need to do it on the Zoom so

980
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 5: that we can get you know, good clear audio. But uh,

981
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: anybody that want to jump in, I'm gonna start getting

982
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 5: real disciplined about doing this on Sundays to record for

983
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 5: the week. But oh yeah, well absolutely with anytime, baby,

984
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 5: I record everywhere.

985
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: You can always come on we all.

986
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 5: I'm always open to the conversation, and I just think

987
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: these go so much better than just talking about, you know,

988
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 5: just random topics.

989
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: So they always go, well, let.

990
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: Me let me tell you something. I'm gonna go on Instagram,

991
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: the borrow and Facebook, and I'm a boost that I

992
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: was on Sister Tesslam's.

993
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: Well you're gonna well, you're gonna have one better.

994
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: This is going directly to the podcast, so it'll be

995
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 5: on iHeartRadio. You'll have the link and you can share

996
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: it and it lives forever in the archives and you're

997
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: always welcome.

998
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you a question, queen before we go. Uh,

999
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: Like I said, I keep up with you, but I

1000
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: must know, are you still with the Hill? Was that out?

1001
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Well? I was never.

1002
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: I appeared from time to time, but I was never

1003
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 5: high with them or anything like that. The only the

1004
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 5: only media, and that's I'm glad you asked.

1005
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Just so people know.

1006
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 5: The only media that I've ever been contracted with is

1007
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: Black News Channel and Revote News anytime you see me

1008
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: anywhere else, I disappear. I'm not on contract.

1009
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: I don't.

1010
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: When Black News Channel was first launch, Beginning to launch,

1011
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: I applied several times to be an anchor or correspondent. Yeah,

1012
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: you know, difficult for Like I said, I'm you know,

1013
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: I'm glad, so I'm glad you following for some time

1014
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: I respected.

1015
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate.

1016
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 5: We trying to stay, trying to stay you know, stay afloat,

1017
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 5: and you know, I get it. I know everybody don't

1018
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 5: like everybody, but at the end of the day, there's

1019
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 5: only two black news FCC. I know people say, well,

1020
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 5: don't nobody watch cable no more. Well, okay, that's fine.

1021
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 5: We got an app, we got YouTube. But the reality

1022
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 5: is we're FCC actually on the dial. We had to

1023
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: fight for that, that network. You know, everybody can't be

1024
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: on YouTube. We gotta we gotta be in other places. Well,

1025
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 5: we're actually are a real network with a beautiful studio.

1026
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 5: We're real network, so we need support, guys.

1027
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: You know show when I when I was working for

1028
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: Michik reporting the news for her, munch of the news

1029
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: that I was getting was from the Bolt. I was

1030
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: you know, I was actually writing because you know, I'm

1031
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: a newswriter, so I write spots for angers. When I

1032
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 3: was writing the spits of my broadcast, I was actually

1033
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: getting a lot of the articles from Revolt.

1034
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it.

1035
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 5: We are obviously been through a lot, you know, with

1036
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 5: Corona and all the other dramas, so we are a

1037
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 5: straw man's staff and I believe in it. I'm I

1038
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: always want to be where we are, you know. And

1039
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 5: this is no disrespect to you know, the Joy Reads

1040
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 5: and all of that. They they're they're having a meeting

1041
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 5: right now and another organization about saving Joy, you know.

1042
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: And and that's fine, and that's fine. I don't feel

1043
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 5: a way about it. But I do want people to know, Uh,

1044
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 5: let's support some of this black Let's support some of

1045
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 5: us that's really been over here with this black on

1046
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: this black side that never went to the white side.

1047
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: We got to support that too, you know what I mean.

1048
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: So because that's critically important because ain't nobody gonna run

1049
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 5: though Fiday Marathon tom As say Joy. And again, no

1050
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: disrespect to Joy. I'm just telling you what it is.

1051
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 5: She made a five million dollar salary for five years.

1052
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 5: That doesn't happen in black media at all. Were lucky

1053
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 5: if we get five dollars. So I do want people

1054
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 5: to know the reality, the reality of what you don't

1055
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 5: gain from a profit standpoint on DUP for self, the

1056
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 5: reality of what black business, black organizing really does pay,

1057
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 5: which is zero. Half the time people got to know

1058
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 5: the reality why Malcolm and why Martin died is poor men.

1059
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: We must, you.

1060
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: Know, talk about the reality because as people get into

1061
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 5: this and too this space, they get discouraged and they

1062
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 5: get out because once that reality hits them and they realize, oh,

1063
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 5: it ain't as easy as our thought.

1064
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Then this is.

1065
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 5: Why we don't have enough people that do what we do,

1066
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: because people weren't giving the realistic expectations. But brother, I

1067
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 5: want to thank you for being on always welcome and

1068
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 5: joining guys.

1069
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: I will start doing it. Marcelisen and don't want me

1070
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: to do this.

1071
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 5: I needed to get a flow, get a flow of things. Yeah,

1072
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 5: but I will absolutely put the zoom link y'alld and

1073
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 5: we can have a big three way back in the day,

1074
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: put a five in the chat. If you know about

1075
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: a three way, we can have a big three way call.

1076
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 5: Y'all can come in on the zoom and we can

1077
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: get to it. I share my platform. I'm always needing content.

1078
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1079
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: I don't have no problem with putting people you know

1080
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: on on my podcast to have this conversation because I

1081
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 5: just relieve that's what's gonna make the difference, you know,

1082
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 5: of really having this conversation and giving people you know,

1083
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 5: the facts and people hearing the where we agree and

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Speaker 5: where we align and where we need to improve. So

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you, brother, I really do. I really do

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Speaker 5: appreciate it and people loving it. I'm looking at five

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Speaker 5: in the chat guys, so make sure you do us

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Speaker 5: a favor. Win this post which will be tuesday. Can

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Speaker 5: you share it? I need you to share it to

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Speaker 5: five people. Seventy percent of podcasts listening. See, that's why

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Speaker 5: I'll be saying, oh, just start a podcast. Here's the reality.

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Speaker 5: Seventy percent of podcast listeners are white. The white folks

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Speaker 5: have a digital discipline. They listen to.

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Speaker 1: AM talk radio all the way work.

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Speaker 5: They go into work and listen to the podcast in

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Speaker 5: their ear, and then they come home and they listen

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Speaker 5: to Fox News. And then all between the time they

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Speaker 5: posting and texting and all online constantly and digital discipline.

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Speaker 1: Us we over here, protecting our peace. Us. We're over here.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting tired of looking at it.

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Speaker 3: Us.

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Speaker 1: We're over here.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna dissing that we have must have the

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Speaker 5: digital di because news is not profitable.

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Speaker 1: That is it. That is all.

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Speaker 5: I don't care if you on mainstream MSNBC. Joy had

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Speaker 5: forty thousand something viewers. Everybody tapped out after the election

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Speaker 5: because remember everybody said they's protecting their peace. So protecting

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Speaker 5: the peace mean like the end of contracts BNC lost

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Speaker 5: the whole channel because nobody was watching. Then everybody said,

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Speaker 5: well it wasn't majority black on anyway. Okay, well what

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Speaker 5: about Revolt that's black on too. So at the end

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Speaker 5: the day Grillo black On, they knocked off two news shows.

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Speaker 5: Now it's showing the Cosmy Show in different strokes twenty

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Speaker 5: four hours around the clock. You know why, because we

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Speaker 5: do not engage and support black media. So you need

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Speaker 5: to be supporting the people you like and sometime the

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Speaker 5: people you don't like. Just keep the conversation out here

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Speaker 5: and keeping us in all spaces.

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Speaker 1: Everybody ain't gonna watch YouTube.

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Speaker 5: I invite people on my Revolt network, people that a

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Speaker 5: one I would say, because hello, ain't but two black newschannels.

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Speaker 5: Joy will never have Black Republicans on the way I do.

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Speaker 5: I bring in some of the most diverse people in

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Speaker 5: the game. They don't try to jump.

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Speaker 1: On me, stand up over me.

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Speaker 5: Marcella's there, yell, scream all of it. I tell him,

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Speaker 5: sit your ass down. We're gonna finish this conversation, so

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Speaker 5: supporting me and also means opening up space for those

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Speaker 5: that you may not like, but somebody gotta do it.

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Speaker 5: So I'm asking you, guys, please support what it is

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Speaker 5: we're trying to do because if not, we're not gonna

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Speaker 5: have it. It's just that simple and just that plane.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, Thank you so much. Guys, you've been

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Speaker 5: listening to straight Shot No Chaser. Please, if you like

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Speaker 5: and our executive producer Charlotta Magne Da God.

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